Hey guys come on.... 610 rear wheel horsepower equals 700 flywheel horsepower. Flywheel horsepower is how every manufacturer rates there engines. The base pull on this car was 400 rear wheel horse power which equals 460 flywheel horsepower, The factory rating on the LT1 and the SS is 455 horsepower. So Yeah, Frans video title " 700 hp NA LT1 is correct.
Your doing the math backwards. They lose 10-12% from flywheel. So 12% of 700 is 84. Minus that from 700 equals 616whp. So it’s close enough to 700 to say that in my opinion.
@@joshcarman2664 10 to 12 % drivetrain loss for a normal rear wheel drivetrain is soft, 12 to 15% is where it should be fiqured. I also work off the actual chassis dyno figure and add the drivetrain loss to that to approximate the flywheel horsepower. C8 corvettes drivetrain loss works out to approx 12.5 % as the engine, trans/diff which is one unit are bolted together directly.
I love that you guys don’t peddle the shit out of your packages, unlike other shops like the one here in TX. You guys let your parts do the talking. You guys are the best
I love your attention to detail with making sure these things are driveable and durable. I couldn't agree more on doing a slightly smaller cam and it being driveable versus just chasing power numbers. Great content!
You guys do a great job and I like how you explain what/why you do it when you tune your customer's cars. I also like that you tune it but not to the very edge of safety. I hope your business continually grows. You have a good business model. Many prayers for your company's success.
I really loved this video because my lil brother and myself have a new Camaro and we want to add more power and watching your videos helps out a lot on what route we should go and how to go about it. Thank you 🙏🏽
Another awesome N/A build! They make some great numbers for the easy drivability! When I seen the base numbers it made I thought it would of been an A10, definitely lower for a manual, but that’s a crazy jump up, well done guys👍🏻
This is a pretty impressive motor. My 421 ls3 makes 520whp on a middle of the road cam because I to fall into the don’t want bucking car crowd. Great work guys.
I’ve seen these base model LT1 get down to 3200 without taking out the entire interior. With a good driver and the right conditions this could possibly keep up with a C6Z for the most part.
AWSOME build. Dam they can only handle 6lbs of boost!!! I'm almost done installing a Hellion TT on 18 Camero. My boss shld be contacting you soon abt a remote tune. It's a 10spd car and I don't think he feels comfortable trying to tune it. Love the channel
You better be putting rods and pistons in it, or your gonna blow up your motor.. its a guarantee.. or it will run like complete shit.. and be a waste of money..
Great channel - great work. It’s all relative of course but the Dyno at the shop is generous. Nevertheless you guys are clearly “tuning the data” and that’s what really matters. 👍👍👍
@@RaceProvenMotorsports well that’s a fair point. The base line wasn’t out-a-wack. Typically I see NA H/C set ups on lt1s in the 550wheel range (no e). So it’s not clear to me where the extra 50ish is coming from with a “streetable” cam like you guys are using (which I COMPLETELY agree with) but…. the numbers are what they are and I’m not arguin. Thanks for the response 👍.
Impressive gentlemen. Really respectable horsepower from a street car. Be different and add some outside video on the vehicle. Some "Miami Vice" angles like what was on the Daytona Ferrari. Be different. I'm really liking your down to earth combo that doesn't kill drive-ability. GM did a good job with this platform from beginning.
I wrench for a living on big rigs and I jus love how you guys can work in T-shirts the rigs we work in are always full of grease etc. no way we can work in t shirts and stay clean 😂😢
@@Cardiakk I looked up Chevy build and saw there is a LT1 trim. How dumb is that. I am a corvette guy. For corvettes. LT1 is the engine and 1LT is the base trim.
Great video! Question, so what if the fuel tank was 100% full of sunoco E85-R (race e85)? Would it help get more hp rather than 40/50% mixture? I'm from Texas, did a Gen 5 swap to a truck. Frankenstein cnc heads, msd intake, 103mm tb and El-c7 cam from TSP & 6l80e transmission.
I’m torn between keeping my factory warranty and saying F it and just modding the engine on my LT1 Camaro. Does anyone have any info on how much the 10 speed can take before it needs to be built?
Camaro Lt1 I’ve noticed don’t make as much RWHP even tho it has the same engine as a SS . I’m thinking that since they don’t have as aggressive trans as maybe an SS does or the added cooling and features maybe it takes away a couple hp
I have a 19 SS 1LE down here is south Louisiana. What numbers could I get on 93 octane being NA and maintain daily drive friendly? Creeping up on 40k miles.
100% agree, 10whp is not worth it for a bucking, hard starting and rough idle car. Also Camaro is I think only 250-300lbs heavier than a C6 Z06. Basically Camaro is just a Vette with a heavy passenger in it all the time.
Drive ability over peak peak power. I agree I'd rather the drives like stock over the extra 10hp 610hp perfect driving car ac works and daily over the 620hp cuts off at lights and can't use ac
Whoever that is that can’t sleep, they’re having DT’s(Delirium Tremens) from them energy drinks. Them drinks are no good. This condition typically lasts 3-4 days but can last as long as 8 days. Hang in there. Don’t pick up.
Gotta love the false advertisement, high horsepower video titles to attract views. New TH-cam accounts manager is making RPM look silly with these claims.
@@RaceProvenMotorsports . Looks to me like the video is of the rear wheel horsepower variety- on account of the dyno. And the wheels going roundy-round. They do sell an engine dyno to measure flywheel horsepower though. Point your camera at one of those.
I hate when people putt my car makes 700hp when What counts is what you're putting down to the wheels the road to tires But it doesn't count and don't care what the motor makes to the crank no what matters is what that car can put down so if it puts 611hp then it's 611hp not 700 🥱🤔🤣
These guys are great but I must say… the LT1 camaro is NOT 1000 pounds heavier than a C6.. the LT1’s are known for their light weight at around 3500lbs curb. While a regular 1SS-2SS could be more like 3650-3800.
I don’t think a 2SS is 3800 pounds 😂, Leather seats and some extra sensors isn’t going to be 300 pounds extra. That’s like convertible territory. Also two 2SS 1LE car would be the heaviest due to wider rims/tires and a beefier suspension so he could be comparing it to that.
Hey guys come on.... 610 rear wheel horsepower equals 700 flywheel horsepower. Flywheel horsepower is how every manufacturer rates there engines. The base pull on this car was 400 rear wheel horse power which equals 460 flywheel horsepower, The factory rating on the LT1 and the SS is 455 horsepower. So Yeah, Frans video title " 700 hp NA LT1 is correct.
100% incorrect there genius. 10% loss from motor to wheels, therefore it makes around 660-670 at the motor.
There is a lot more than a 10% drivetrain loss @@sheldor73
@@sheldor7310% ? No
Your doing the math backwards. They lose 10-12% from flywheel. So 12% of 700 is 84. Minus that from 700 equals 616whp. So it’s close enough to 700 to say that in my opinion.
@@joshcarman2664 10 to 12 % drivetrain loss for a normal rear wheel drivetrain is soft, 12 to 15% is where it should be fiqured. I also work off the actual chassis dyno figure and add the drivetrain loss to that to approximate the flywheel horsepower. C8 corvettes drivetrain loss works out to approx 12.5 % as the engine, trans/diff which is one unit are bolted together directly.
I love that you guys don’t peddle the shit out of your packages, unlike other shops like the one here in TX. You guys let your parts do the talking. You guys are the best
Different strokes
I'm sure they love you too that was touching.. 😢
You talking about LMR lol
@@kolbyhumbert2680 Or Texas Speed and Performance? truly wondering
@@kolbyhumbert2680 Or Texas Speed and Performance? truly wondering
Kids waiving at our cars gets better the older I get. Cool that you acknowledged him! Since I was once that kid!
I love your attention to detail with making sure these things are driveable and durable. I couldn't agree more on doing a slightly smaller cam and it being driveable versus just chasing power numbers. Great content!
You guys do a great job and I like how you explain what/why you do it when you tune your customer's cars. I also like that you tune it but not to the very edge of safety. I hope your business continually grows. You have a good business model. Many prayers for your company's success.
I really loved this video because my lil brother and myself have a new Camaro and we want to add more power and watching your videos helps out a lot on what route we should go and how to go about it. Thank you 🙏🏽
Very impressive numbers at the wheel for an N/A package even just on pump 93, definitely into boost territory.
Lt's are such a badass NA motor. I'd love to talk my wife into selling her Jeep and get one. It would look great next to gen 3 coyote.
Another awesome N/A build! They make some great numbers for the easy drivability! When I seen the base numbers it made I thought it would of been an A10, definitely lower for a manual, but that’s a crazy jump up, well done guys👍🏻
This is a pretty impressive motor. My 421 ls3 makes 520whp on a middle of the road cam because I to fall into the don’t want bucking car crowd. Great work guys.
I’ve seen these base model LT1 get down to 3200 without taking out the entire interior. With a good driver and the right conditions this could possibly keep up with a C6Z for the most part.
The test drive portion of video without going savage show great manners with +194RWHP. Good video
I wanted a 600 whp NA Lt1 in my c7 so bad but now I got a kid and a ct4 Blackwing lmao nice to see you guys making this power with them though
In other words hey I’m here to brag about what I have and don’t really care about them or their products being used to build this car
The way to go both worlds
@@Fastandfoodious1998u sound miserable
Love the ride along talks! Great details
AWSOME build. Dam they can only handle 6lbs of boost!!! I'm almost done installing a Hellion TT on 18 Camero. My boss shld be contacting you soon abt a remote tune. It's a 10spd car and I don't think he feels comfortable trying to tune it. Love the channel
You better be putting rods and pistons in it, or your gonna blow up your motor.. its a guarantee.. or it will run like complete shit.. and be a waste of money..
Camaro
Love me the sound of a small block at 7000.
Doing those cars reminds me when I used to houses. Finished this one, on to the next one. It don’t stop.
Great channel - great work. It’s all relative of course but the Dyno at the shop is generous. Nevertheless you guys are clearly “tuning the data” and that’s what really matters. 👍👍👍
Everyone says it’s “generous” after we are done. Very rarely on baselines …..
@@RaceProvenMotorsports well that’s a fair point. The base line wasn’t out-a-wack. Typically I see NA H/C set ups on lt1s in the 550wheel range (no e). So it’s not clear to me where the extra 50ish is coming from with a “streetable” cam like you guys are using (which I COMPLETELY agree with) but…. the numbers are what they are and I’m not arguin. Thanks for the response 👍.
Impressive gains. My 18 SS 1LE weighs 3568 with half tank of fuel. I bet that LT1 is even lighter.
What im saying, an LT1 is not 4100lbs lmao, a ZL1 isnt even 4k.
Man I have a gen 6 myself only thing I dislike about the refresh is no fog lights and the rear bumper. Other than that the car is beautiful!
You guys are great. I watch all your content. Respect!!!
Love the driving vids!!
Impressive gentlemen. Really respectable horsepower from a street car. Be different and add some outside video on the vehicle. Some "Miami Vice" angles like what was on the Daytona Ferrari. Be different. I'm really liking your down to earth combo that doesn't kill drive-ability. GM did a good job with this platform from beginning.
Good looking car and its an LT1
Impressive gains Fran!
Beautiful Grey Camaro,WAY MEANER! NA👊
I wrench for a living on big rigs and I jus love how you guys can work in T-shirts the rigs we work in are always full of grease etc. no way we can work in t shirts and stay clean 😂😢
That was one heck of a pick up on power
😎😎😎👍👍👍
Great content as always! 2022 LT1 owner in Georgia here! Great power increase on this build! 💪I assume the 700hp is flywheel.
Duh
@@Jeking84d?
Yes, we are measuring behind the balls for this number!
@@ricknichol260you baby 💩 soft 😂
My 2022 SS was covered in oil when I went to do an oil change with only 15k miles. Dealer had to pull the motor and reseal the pan.
You guys been seeing any issues with valve seats chipping?
RPM, for max N/A HP are you liking build LS3/LS7 or LT1 more for that purpose? What about limits and capabilities?
The lt1 and ls7 are going to make the most power
The LT1 is by far the best motor for N/A.. Hands down..
The LT1 is a barebones trim
@Ballen1182they are the 1LE wheels
The LT1 is a engine. A 1LT is bare bones trim.
@jkp2712 False. LT1 is the base model V8 for the Camaro which also coincides with the nameplate of the engine, LT1. 1LT is V6 trim.
@@Cardiakk I looked up Chevy build and saw there is a LT1 trim. How dumb is that. I am a corvette guy. For corvettes. LT1 is the engine and 1LT is the base trim.
@@jkp2712 yeah camaro trim levels are 1ss, 2ss
Great video! Question, so what if the fuel tank was 100% full of sunoco E85-R (race e85)? Would it help get more hp rather than 40/50% mixture? I'm from Texas, did a Gen 5 swap to a truck. Frankenstein cnc heads, msd intake, 103mm tb and El-c7 cam from TSP & 6l80e transmission.
Does it need any additional cooling with the 200 added horsepower?
street driving is key to a good tune especially with the a/c on
Is the ZL1 the only way to get that sexy bumper on these 6th gen facelifted Camaros?
The car in the video is an LT1, basically the 1LT trim with a V8 in it, aka base model Camaro fascia.
I’m torn between keeping my factory warranty and saying F it and just modding the engine on my LT1 Camaro. Does anyone have any info on how much the 10 speed can take before it needs to be built?
10 speeds can handle a lot.
Looks like Coweta county, maybe the owner will comment as that’s not far from me
I'm pretty sure an LT1 weighs like 3800lbs- I picked mine due to not having the extra options. I love it.
Actually 3500~
10 speed is 3670 to be exact
What would a reliable high power build like this run me labor and parts included ?? From your shop obviously and where are u guys located
MSD or High ram for being Heads Cam FBO e85? Heard mix opinions.
My '22 started an oil leak in April of this year. Dealer "fixed" it... :(
What was it
Camaro Lt1 I’ve noticed don’t make as much RWHP even tho it has the same engine as a SS . I’m thinking that since they don’t have as aggressive trans as maybe an SS does or the added cooling and features maybe it takes away a couple hp
What would a build like this typically run you in 1/4 mile. 10s??
I'm curious as to how much the guy spent after it was all said and done
how much one of these packages cost?
Great job !! Is it tuned on oem gm ecu?
Yes of course.
I have a 19 SS 1LE down here is south Louisiana. What numbers could I get on 93 octane being NA and maintain daily drive friendly? Creeping up on 40k miles.
Once I stop giving my money to fanduel. I'm bringing my Corvette back to RPM. They do amazing work.
That's crazy. With a Mag 2650, you guys got 561 on an LT1 Camaro.
She’s getting dick down in Dallas… So I just heard that song and thought of you guys…. Great job guys!
are the stock LT1 internals the same as the stock SS internals ?
what engine is in them………..
@@390nm , I would imagine it’s the same LT1 but I would have no idea
Same exact engine
Yes same engine
Same engine as an SS, the LT1 trim is literally a base model car with the SS LT1 engine stuffed into it.
Approximate cam specs?
what mods did this car get to get to 700hp? what cam stage 4? thanks!
We list all the mods in the video
How do yall make 611 to the wheels with so little mods?
What would it take to just make 500 whp? Just got a 2023 LT1 and curious if a rotofab intake and headers r enough. Will it still be reliable with 500?
You’ll be about 440 to 450 15:15 whp with intake and headers and a solid tune.
Can someone explain what classifies as a stage?
How much would that package be out the door after tax? Have a 2024 Camaro LT1 looking to do something like that in the future
Prices are on our website
Thank you! Will keep you guys in mind
For the people wondering these cars stock curb weight are 3,619lbs so ya know
100% agree, 10whp is not worth it for a bucking, hard starting and rough idle car.
Also Camaro is I think only 250-300lbs heavier than a C6 Z06. Basically Camaro is just a Vette with a heavy passenger in it all the time.
C6Z are about 3k lbs on the dot, a full weight LT1 is 3500-3600lbs.
@@AZCPWnot true lol. The c6z is closer to 3200+
Those LT1 camaros weigh around 3600 to 3700lbs
2021 lt1 weighs 2650. SS is 2850 roughly. I have one
Haha. They are nowhere near those weights.
@RaceProvenMotorsports omfg I'm an idiot. I meant 3650. I literally just googled "2021 lt1 weight" and it says 3650. Typo on my part
Drive ability over peak peak power. I agree I'd rather the drives like stock over the extra 10hp 610hp perfect driving car ac works and daily over the 620hp cuts off at lights and can't use ac
How much does a build like this typically run?
Prices are on our website
holy cow man.
10hp is nuthin…
How do I get the transport? Back and forth to the shop? I’m in North Carolina
Call or email us. We handle it
@@RaceProvenMotorsports just emailed you
Do they fr hide the cam install bc secret specs
No
@@RaceProvenMotorsports watched two videos lol and didn’t see any cam clips really lol
Keep watching more. We don’t film it every time
You guys working on C8 stingray packages yet? 😏
Yes we do
700hp 👀👀
3625 curb weight
Nice 👍
It’s not even close to 1000 lbs difference. The difference is 500 lbs. Per GM the LT1 manual SS Curb weight is 3619 lbs
Whoever that is that can’t sleep, they’re having DT’s(Delirium Tremens) from them energy drinks. Them drinks are no good. This condition typically lasts 3-4 days but can last as long as 8 days. Hang in there. Don’t pick up.
I think the manual base is like 3700ish pounds not 1000 pounds more more like 600 pounds more
Correct. I believe A10 LT1's weigh in at 3600 or 3700. The M6 is slightly lighter so for sure about 3600-ish.
Facts
jealous
Gotta love the false advertisement, high horsepower video titles to attract views. New TH-cam accounts manager is making RPM look silly with these claims.
They've been doing this because that's what other shops have been doing.
Flywheel HP
@@RaceProvenMotorsports . Looks to me like the video is of the rear wheel horsepower variety- on account of the dyno. And the wheels going roundy-round.
They do sell an engine dyno to measure flywheel horsepower though. Point your camera at one of those.
@@nemoj7216 Dude, go outside. Enjoy life.
It weighs about 500+ more pounds than a C6Z
Whats it run in the 1/4? You cant fake those numbers 😂😂Your dyno reads super high! Over the normal by 100hp 😂😂😂
I hate when people putt my car makes 700hp when What counts is what you're putting down to the wheels the road to tires But it doesn't count and don't care what the motor makes to the crank no what matters is what that car can put down so if it puts 611hp then it's 611hp not 700 🥱🤔🤣
Then I guess the factory shoulda rated this one at 405 instead of 455 huh 🙄
Tell that to every car manufacture in existence
Ok what’s with the 700 hp when it’s only 610 come on guys click bait is beneath yall
1,000 heavier than a what?? 2023 LT1 = 3,354 lbs.
6th gen Camaros dont weigh 4200lbs.. They are 3700-3800.. Come on Fran.. Really 1000lbs more than a C6z..??
1000lbs more than a C6Z? The fuck? 🤣 try maybe 400-500lbs more, my 17 1SS is in the 3600 range full weight, LT1s are lighter.
Where's the 700hp?
Estimated flywheel, bud.
Crank hp duh
Damn that's it too slow not a mustang killer low 600hp lolol
Would equate to around 660hp actually (usually 10% less at the wheels than at the motor). Furthermore, that LT1 weighs around 3,700 lbs, NOT 4100-4200
These guys are great but I must say… the LT1 camaro is NOT 1000 pounds heavier than a C6.. the LT1’s are known for their light weight at around 3500lbs curb. While a regular 1SS-2SS could be more like 3650-3800.
I don’t think a 2SS is 3800 pounds 😂, Leather seats and some extra sensors isn’t going to be 300 pounds extra. That’s like convertible territory. Also two 2SS 1LE car would be the heaviest due to wider rims/tires and a beefier suspension so he could be comparing it to that.
Soo close 😂
I'm still second place, NA 🫡
616HP with 522TQ
First place got
616HP with 530TQ NA.
What engines..?
@@Cardiakk 6.2 camaros
@@1lepandaboyy766 Yeah..but which 6.2?
@@Cardiakk LT1
@@1lepandaboyy766 Nice. I didn't know these LT1's could make power like that.
What would a reliable high power build like this run me labor and parts included ?? From your shop obviously and where are u guys located
What would a reliable high power build like this run me labor and parts included ?? From your shop obviously and where are u guys located
All our prices are on our website