With these seatbelts seats, you need to do everything you have done but then you need to full pull the seatbelt all the way out until there is no belt left on the reel and then let it go all the way back and then fully pull it very tight.
So we have this car seat for holidays only and it never slipped like yours just did. You need to pull it standing while holding it in position as the original video from maxi cosi shows.
I had a inflatable reboarder from Nachfolger, an Austrian company. Though I think they went under during the pandemic. It was quite big (would fit just so in a VW Polo, if nobody used the front seat) and still heavy with 5kg, but sturdy and comfortable for long trips. If a holiday was just a flight and a bus transfer, the Luftikid with 1-2kg was the winner. Though that is not produced anymore as well. Maybe you are lucky on the used market.
Hi Leza, but safetywise the Luftikid is not a real car seat, they never made somthing better than a 5,5 ranking in ADAC testing, nachfolger had a 1.9 in safety in 2019. I cannot find nomad in ADAC ranking, but this is highly relevant, if a seat is able to survive these tests. When Luftikid passed R44 the standard wasnt at this level we see now by far.
@@KiSi2005 I agree, I would not use Luftikid in a car. But if you need something in cabin during a flight your options are limited. A big transfer bus is safer than a car ride and you often only have 2 point buckles there. And of course, the super lightweight Luftikid is convenient for flying, where your luggage is limited. So, if you have a holiday without a car, but flights and bus transfers, I would choose that. The Nomad is neither for cabin nor for 2 point belts and the Nachfolger does not fit into economy class seats.
***SOLUTION*** At 2:59, she mentions threading the diagonal part of the seat belt back through the waist band hook. Don’t do this as it introduces a second lock to the belt, which stops the belt from tightening further. Also, do not put the diagonal belt through both RED/GREEN stoppers. Only use the one closest to the top of the belt. Pull everything through tight as she mentions. Following all of the above will stop the bottom of the seat from jolting forwards. However, the top of the seat does still move forward, however, this is intended as it is meant to dissipate some of the energy during an impact. If the seat was tight and didn’t move at all during an impact, the energy will be transferred to your child’s neck, tragically
Hi, the problem you have in fitting this seat is called "Forward Anchorage". It's a compatability issue between certain cars and car seats. The name is because the seatbelt essentially has what we call two "anchor" points (solid attachments to the car) - the place where the lap belt is attached to the car chassis, and the other anchor is where the seatbelt is plugged into the buckle. The problem is here that one of your anchors (the buckle end) is further forwards physically in the car than the belt path through the seat. You need the seatbelt to leave the anchor, come towards the front of the car, through the child seat belt path, then route towards the back again so that when you pull it tight, the belt pulls the seat back. That can't happen here because the belt path is too far back. This results in far too much movement as you can see here. You haven't done anything wrong, but the seat and car are incompartible. The top wouldn't pull out forwards like that either if the seatbelt was able to anchor the seat correctly. Normally, seatbelt fitted seats should have even less movement than an isofix seat, this amount of movement is not typical or OK for seatbelt installation, it's because there is a problem with the position of the seatbelt buckle. It's unusual in this case, because your buckle stalks are not unusually long or far forward. This Maxi Cosi seat has a very thin backrest which means I think there must be very few seats which it would actually work in. I will add another comment with a link to a video to watch in case you prefer a visual explanation, but TH-cam tends to eat link comments with its spam filter.
@@erinlouiseruth you can see in their fitting video that the seatbelt buckle is set deeper there. But it does seem concerning because there doesn't seem to be any indication in the instructions that this could happen. There is one other fitting/review video on TH-cam and they have the same issue but don't comment on it.
Hi, we bought it as we don't have a car and it's really tricky to fiend another option for us. We used the Doona before but now our toddler doesn't fit in it anymore. We've tested in three cars now. Two were fine, the seat barely moved but in another one it moved slightly less as yours. I agree with the person who said the issue is about the car's seat belt anchorage. The user manual says that fots into cars that are compatible with universal carseats, so maybe it's worth checking that.
@@mjm5400 hiya, that’s interesting to know. We also used the Doona and it was great! The car in the video is a 2019 mini countryman, which is one of the most popular cars so very bizarre the issues would arise. Regardless- a car seat should move atall, and when I contacted maxi cosi they acknowledged the issue but that’s about it! A lot of people may not question the fitting of it, which means it is unsafe sadly!
@@erinlouiseruth I use it on my Volvo V60 middleseat and the seat is rock solid. I do have low buckles which dont stand out and are sunk into the seat. So nothing wrong with the seat, just doesnt work with buckles that stand out…
Sadly not, maxi cosi themselves didn’t have much to suggest apart from a seat cover to stop the ‘slipping’, but by this point is already decided to return the item. On paper its a good product, but if you can’t be 100% of your belt buckle position on a taxi or rental car as example, its not the safest option in my opinion, which is shame!
I’m not sure what anyone expects from travel car seats. The urban kanga is the same. It has passed safety tests which are crash tests not someone pulling in specific areas of the seat although appreciate that it’s good to see the movement. There is an isofix travel car seat on the market but it’s insanely heavy and big. I definitely wouldn’t use the Nomad in the uk but I would use it abroad where some would not use a car seat at all from airport to hotels or in taxis etc. Nothing beats the Doona of course but for that group 1-2 age range this is safest in terms of crash testing without going isofix. Some people use the trunki booster seats. I personally also have the hi fold car seat but this car seat does bridge the gap and the price point is good. Pro and con list.
th-cam.com/video/UGo7kMYNAEk/w-d-xo.html As you can see it should be firmly tightly fitted. Some cars particularly BMW are known for not being good with this anchoring. It might be the car too. Probably how it got it’s safety rating. Shows how much they vary
Thanks for your comment and totally appreciate its better then nothing in some countries. This video didn’t demonstrate it, but when my 2.5 year old was in the seat and leaning forward and side to side, the seat moved aswell quite considerably, even not in crash that isn’t ideal. I’ve tried a few other travel seats, the Chico fold and go which deffo isn’t ‘travel’, and I have seen a new isofix one with a 5 point harness but it’s about 9kg so again not for travel! The Doona is amazing, I had that initially!
Hi Erin, we have the same item and I think at one point you did it wrong. As you know, there are four holding point, three of which have to be used (only one of the upper ones is supposed to be used, depending on the orientation of the seatbelt). Now, the two on the lower part of the seat are only to be used for the horizontal part of the belt, while you passed through one of them the diagonal part. By doing that, you impeded the possibility of pulling tight the rest of the belt. I think that could be the reason of having the seat not firmly fastened in place. I might be wrong, but it seems to me that that's the reason why the seat looked so disappointing. Please give me a feedback on my comment, if you have the opportunity to check it out. Thank you, bye.
Agree - it looks like it was not fitted properly, with the seatbelt passing through the right spot. That said, this seat does move a lot even when fitted correctly.
Hello; my son was in the harness for around 3 months. His results at the time were good but we do have an X-ray in 1 month to check up. He will be 15 months
@@erinlouiseruth thanks for u reply...my daughter also wear this starting yesterday. I am so worried about it .she not sleeping well. She is in 4th month last
if you look for a safe seat, there is only the nachfolger HyFive which is small folding and below 5kg. Rearfacing seats are bigger, but thats valid for all super safe rear facing seats.
I think the comparison is wrong!! if you compare the infant car seat with the car seat with base, the car seat will also move a bit on the seat. But when you are traveling, there is no option so far to carry with! so this car seat is more for traveling use, should not compare with normal car seat. Also the concept with car seat is make sure your kids hold by the car seat when accident happened. So having a bit moving is also safe during the accident cause seat belt will hold tight the carseat and your Kids will hold tight by 5 point harness. Judge by whether having a bit moving is not correct. More, Maxicosi do have car seat for you based on your request! Use word "Shame" on brand or product is totally unfair!
I totally appreciate your comments and I do agree that there are no other real travel car seat options. When I contacted maxi Cosi direct they were suggesting ways to make it better which to me sounds like they acknowledge the issue I have flagged. This car seat doesn’t work effectively in all cars due to the buckle set ups, which means you’d be taking a risk using this in taxi, or hire cars as you wouldn’t really know how safely it could be fitted, which is something I am just not comfortable with. I guess it’s personal preference, but my 2.5yr old was moving the seat around so much that I cannot see how it would be safe which I couldn’t be dealing with whilst driving. As with everything, each parent will have their own tolerance to this sort of thing, and regardless of being one of the only options, it’s not the option for me. If this seat had isofix is would be perfect!
@@erinlouiseruth yeah, but if you take a hire car with a hire car seat, you're not guaranteed to get any better fit, actually the opposite, most of the seats you get in car hires are far worse even though they have no size or weight restrictions. Neither me nor anyone I know was ever offered a car seat with isofix. So basically that is the deal, the travel seat you carry, which at least is of known quality, without any accident, neither dirty nor worn out, or you pay basically same for unknown, likely worse sea in unknown conditions, and no, in fact, no guarantee you're even getting one. There are options to rent better seats from shops in many places, but you first need to get there from the airport, etc, IMO its ridiculous we even have such problems in 2024, but it seems that's what happens if market (including rentals) is purely money oriented and with no real competition
Had exactly the same Problem when I tried it in our car, returned it and bought the urban kanga, there exactly the same problem again. @Amy Peggs describes the problem perfectly. But witht that design, they are not usefull as a travel seat, as you never know what your rental car/taxi will be and how the seat belt anchor will be...
You should definitely refer this to Maxi Cosi. They should be able to support you best practice installation and indeed review this if necessary. Always, always reach out to Brands with experience and feedback I'd say. They have the expertees, resources and are as invested in car seat safety for your child as you. 💕
i would rather trust that these products have been properly tested before coming to market, rather than listen to a youtube review. if this was such an obvious flaw in the design, it would not have been allowed to be sold. so its more likely some user error in this review, as other comments have suggested.
Thanks for taking the time to comment. As others have said, the type of seat belt clip you have fitted in the car can make a significant impact on how ‘tight’ the seat can go. If the seat belt clips and flush with the seat and are not on ‘arms’ then you won’t get as much movement. In my car (mini) the belt clips are higher then the seat, so regardless how tight you pull the car seat, it will never be super tight as there is natural movement in the belt clip. Even if this wasn’t an issue in my car, it could be the case if I was in a taxi or hire car. This seat is also advertised from 9months- and is very upright. Neither of my children would have been safe in that at 9months! The idea is great, and others are trying to do it too…. But there is always compromise!
I feel I have to point out that you made a big error in the review. You have repeated it here: the car seat is not advertised for a 9 month old... It would be crazy to do this! It's for 9kg and upwards, which is where I think you got confused. @@erinlouiseruth
My son is 16 now so I haven't had car seat experience for quite a while, but we had a seat all those years ago with the same issue. However, the seat had straps with hooks in addition to using the car's seatbelt, and we discovered that cars have hard-mounted anchor points (usually down in the crack between the seat bottom and back) to attach the hooks to, and we could get the seat mounted really tight with those. Idk if UK vehicles have the same things, and like I say this was long ago.. but maybe if they do you'll be able to use your seat! I hope this comment is coherent lol, it sounds good in my head 😁
Problem is, even if it was ok in my car, we got the specificity for travel so if a cab or hire car at the wrong style belt buckle thing it wouldn’t work. So frustrating!
I wonder whether it actually matters that there is a bit of movement in the actual seat, because there would be no movement in the belt? Does this make sense?
I have checked and it says 9kg onwards. Not for 9mths. Second you loop the diagonal belt into the two anchors which is incorrect based on instructions video. Hope u correct your video..i was almost put off buying this until i saw others highlight the errors. I dont mean any disrespect but misinformation can be very stressful for first time moms trying to make good decisions
Hello, it’s been noted before the production information has been changed online since this video was posted. I had also been I contact with the company and flagged my concerns with them direct. This seat was originally advertised as from 9kg. I appreciate your comments around the fitting but others to have experienced the same problem with this seat. If works for you in your car then great. This type of product is a great idea if it fits properly!
Just to make clear for anyone from a safety perspective, there is a big error in the review. The seat is not advertised for a 9 month old. It is for 15 months / 9kg minimum child. I believe Erin confused 9kg for 9 months.
Hi, thanks for your comment, I actually think they have altered the age range as when I purchased this item it was from 9 months. On Amazon and other retailers it is still actually listed from 9 months despite maxi cosi website showing 15months.
Possibly, but this seat was advertised as from 9months. My updated thumbnail shows the original description for this seat. The new model description has been changed… potentially since I flagged this issues
I’m so confused how they can say this seat is for 9month old and over. No 9 month old should be forward facing, and especially with ZERO recline?? I’m sure chin to chest head flop would occur with any infant or baby to at least 18months old
Hello! I can assure you I followed the instructions and video tutorial. The seat was as tight as it could go. We came to the conclusion that due to the seat belt within the seat being raised and flexible and not sunken and solid; there was always going to be some movement. I even tried this in another car
Hi @@erinlouiseruth but you are kneeling down on the ground, so you have no leverage to create effective tension... You have to stand up, pull the seatbelt whilst pressing down on the babyseat using your bodyweight and you use a push/ pull method to remove the slack from seatbelt. We ended up purchasing this carseat(on recommendation of the first part of your video actually - thank you) and its great because we are jetsetting around Europe changing cars often so the fold up and lightweightness is really handy. We don't have any slipping because we make sure we secure it properly.
@@LaurentGamboa Did you use the car seat on airplanes while you were traveling? Since it doesn't have an airplane-safe label, I'm afraid the airlines will not allow me to use it. Has anyone used it on an airplane? I'm flying with my 17-month-old baby, and I like the seat. I just don't want to deal with the airline staff telling me I cannot use it.
@@andresmalo254 hi, if you had read previous comments you’d see that anyone with the type of seat belt I had would have the same problem due to it being on a stalk. This isn’t suitable as a go to travel item if you don’t know what setup the car will have
They need to be at least 4.5 to go into a high back booster with adult seatbelt safely! Until then they should be rear facing There is another folding car seat that looks identical to this, and has been independently tested and it score atrociously bad! Plus what you’re experiencing here is forward anchorage
Is it the urban kanga? I am too surprised these have passed testing! These seat does have a 5 point belt and not the adult belt for the child but doesn’t change how secure the seat itself is
@@neevmarcel4639 given many have had the same experience I’d argue it isn’t an installation issue. If you have belts that are on stalks, you cannot get the tension needed for these to secure properly
With these seatbelts seats, you need to do everything you have done but then you need to full pull the seatbelt all the way out until there is no belt left on the reel and then let it go all the way back and then fully pull it very tight.
So we have this car seat for holidays only and it never slipped like yours just did. You need to pull it standing while holding it in position as the original video from maxi cosi shows.
I had a inflatable reboarder from Nachfolger, an Austrian company. Though I think they went under during the pandemic. It was quite big (would fit just so in a VW Polo, if nobody used the front seat) and still heavy with 5kg, but sturdy and comfortable for long trips. If a holiday was just a flight and a bus transfer, the Luftikid with 1-2kg was the winner. Though that is not produced anymore as well. Maybe you are lucky on the used market.
Hi Leza, but safetywise the Luftikid is not a real car seat, they never made somthing better than a 5,5 ranking in ADAC testing, nachfolger had a 1.9 in safety in 2019. I cannot find nomad in ADAC ranking, but this is highly relevant, if a seat is able to survive these tests. When Luftikid passed R44 the standard wasnt at this level we see now by far.
@@KiSi2005 I agree, I would not use Luftikid in a car. But if you need something in cabin during a flight your options are limited. A big transfer bus is safer than a car ride and you often only have 2 point buckles there. And of course, the super lightweight Luftikid is convenient for flying, where your luggage is limited. So, if you have a holiday without a car, but flights and bus transfers, I would choose that.
The Nomad is neither for cabin nor for 2 point belts and the Nachfolger does not fit into economy class seats.
Has anyone tried to just add one or two extra straps that wrap around the car seat. Thats how I set up mine and its pretty solid now 👍🏻
One way to solve the problem, but you shouldn’t need to!
Very true, but it seems like the only viable seat to really take on a plane. And others seek to have the same issue.@@erinlouiseruth
She keep referring to "isofix". Is that the UK equivalent to UAS or LATCH?
Yes
Hi! Thanks for the review! Maybe do you know if this carseat can be used in airplane during flight?
Hi, no I don’t think this meets the regulations to go on most planes. They usually require rear facing seats
Yup, with emirates you can use it. Check their website
Would this fit in the small middle seat? Need something to fit the middle seat of my insignia
Yes, it should! I just fit this between a maxi cosi cabriofix (older model) on isofix base and an adult in the back of a Skoda Octavia the other day.
You need a seatbelt lock clip to tighten the baby seat against the car seat.
***SOLUTION***
At 2:59, she mentions threading the diagonal part of the seat belt back through the waist band hook. Don’t do this as it introduces a second lock to the belt, which stops the belt from tightening further.
Also, do not put the diagonal belt through both RED/GREEN stoppers. Only use the one closest to the top of the belt. Pull everything through tight as she mentions.
Following all of the above will stop the bottom of the seat from jolting forwards. However, the top of the seat does still move forward, however, this is intended as it is meant to dissipate some of the energy during an impact. If the seat was tight and didn’t move at all during an impact, the energy will be transferred to your child’s neck, tragically
This travel car seat does not have a tether?
No, this car seat does not have a top tether
Hi, the problem you have in fitting this seat is called "Forward Anchorage". It's a compatability issue between certain cars and car seats.
The name is because the seatbelt essentially has what we call two "anchor" points (solid attachments to the car) - the place where the lap belt is attached to the car chassis, and the other anchor is where the seatbelt is plugged into the buckle.
The problem is here that one of your anchors (the buckle end) is further forwards physically in the car than the belt path through the seat. You need the seatbelt to leave the anchor, come towards the front of the car, through the child seat belt path, then route towards the back again so that when you pull it tight, the belt pulls the seat back. That can't happen here because the belt path is too far back. This results in far too much movement as you can see here.
You haven't done anything wrong, but the seat and car are incompartible. The top wouldn't pull out forwards like that either if the seatbelt was able to anchor the seat correctly. Normally, seatbelt fitted seats should have even less movement than an isofix seat, this amount of movement is not typical or OK for seatbelt installation, it's because there is a problem with the position of the seatbelt buckle.
It's unusual in this case, because your buckle stalks are not unusually long or far forward. This Maxi Cosi seat has a very thin backrest which means I think there must be very few seats which it would actually work in.
I will add another comment with a link to a video to watch in case you prefer a visual explanation, but TH-cam tends to eat link comments with its spam filter.
Thanks for commenting and sharing the information. I’ve checked a few cars and none have deep set seatbelts so I don’t see how this was tested well!
@@erinlouiseruth you can see in their fitting video that the seatbelt buckle is set deeper there. But it does seem concerning because there doesn't seem to be any indication in the instructions that this could happen. There is one other fitting/review video on TH-cam and they have the same issue but don't comment on it.
Hi, we bought it as we don't have a car and it's really tricky to fiend another option for us. We used the Doona before but now our toddler doesn't fit in it anymore.
We've tested in three cars now. Two were fine, the seat barely moved but in another one it moved slightly less as yours. I agree with the person who said the issue is about the car's seat belt anchorage.
The user manual says that fots into cars that are compatible with universal carseats, so maybe it's worth checking that.
@@mjm5400 hiya, that’s interesting to know. We also used the Doona and it was great!
The car in the video is a 2019 mini countryman, which is one of the most popular cars so very bizarre the issues would arise.
Regardless- a car seat should move atall, and when I contacted maxi cosi they acknowledged the issue but that’s about it! A lot of people may not question the fitting of it, which means it is unsafe sadly!
@@erinlouiseruth I use it on my Volvo V60 middleseat and the seat is rock solid. I do have low buckles which dont stand out and are sunk into the seat. So nothing wrong with the seat, just doesnt work with buckles that stand out…
does it work on plane seats?
Cant seem why not
Hi Erin - we just got this and ran into the same design issue. By chance have you found a fix?
Sadly not, maxi cosi themselves didn’t have much to suggest apart from a seat cover to stop the ‘slipping’, but by this point is already decided to return the item. On paper its a good product, but if you can’t be 100% of your belt buckle position on a taxi or rental car as example, its not the safest option in my opinion, which is shame!
@@erinlouiseruth absolutely! By chance did you find a similar travel seat which worked better with seatbelts?
I’m not sure what anyone expects from travel car seats. The urban kanga is the same. It has passed safety tests which are crash tests not someone pulling in specific areas of the seat although appreciate that it’s good to see the movement. There is an isofix travel car seat on the market but it’s insanely heavy and big. I definitely wouldn’t use the Nomad in the uk but I would use it abroad where some would not use a car seat at all from airport to hotels or in taxis etc. Nothing beats the Doona of course but for that group 1-2 age range this is safest in terms of crash testing without going isofix. Some people use the trunki booster seats. I personally also have the hi fold car seat but this car seat does bridge the gap and the price point is good. Pro and con list.
th-cam.com/video/UGo7kMYNAEk/w-d-xo.html
As you can see it should be firmly tightly fitted. Some cars particularly BMW are known for not being good with this anchoring. It might be the car too. Probably how it got it’s safety rating. Shows how much they vary
Thanks for your comment and totally appreciate its better then nothing in some countries. This video didn’t demonstrate it, but when my 2.5 year old was in the seat and leaning forward and side to side, the seat moved aswell quite considerably, even not in crash that isn’t ideal.
I’ve tried a few other travel seats, the Chico fold and go which deffo isn’t ‘travel’, and I have seen a new isofix one with a 5 point harness but it’s about 9kg so again not for travel!
The Doona is amazing, I had that initially!
Hi Erin, we have the same item and I think at one point you did it wrong. As you know, there are four holding point, three of which have to be used (only one of the upper ones is supposed to be used, depending on the orientation of the seatbelt). Now, the two on the lower part of the seat are only to be used for the horizontal part of the belt, while you passed through one of them the diagonal part. By doing that, you impeded the possibility of pulling tight the rest of the belt. I think that could be the reason of having the seat not firmly fastened in place. I might be wrong, but it seems to me that that's the reason why the seat looked so disappointing. Please give me a feedback on my comment, if you have the opportunity to check it out. Thank you, bye.
Agree - it looks like it was not fitted properly, with the seatbelt passing through the right spot. That said, this seat does move a lot even when fitted correctly.
Hi dear ....how many month u use pavlic harness.....then what is the result ...success??or no??
Hello; my son was in the harness for around 3 months. His results at the time were good but we do have an X-ray in 1 month to check up. He will be 15 months
@@erinlouiseruth which month your baby started wearing pavlic harness
@@sizziskitchen5418 he was 10 weeks old when he had it, it was this time last year he got it.
@@erinlouiseruth thanks for u reply...my daughter also wear this starting yesterday. I am so worried about it .she not sleeping well. She is in 4th month last
Gosh! I just want a portable car seat that I can use easily on taxis and Ubers!! 😭 😭 I don’t have a car and most likely will never get one 😅😅
if you look for a safe seat, there is only the nachfolger HyFive which is small folding and below 5kg. Rearfacing seats are bigger, but thats valid for all super safe rear facing seats.
I think the comparison is wrong!! if you compare the infant car seat with the car seat with base, the car seat will also move a bit on the seat. But when you are traveling, there is no option so far to carry with! so this car seat is more for traveling use, should not compare with normal car seat. Also the concept with car seat is make sure your kids hold by the car seat when accident happened. So having a bit moving is also safe during the accident cause seat belt will hold tight the carseat and your Kids will hold tight by 5 point harness. Judge by whether having a bit moving is not correct. More, Maxicosi do have car seat for you based on your request! Use word "Shame" on brand or product is totally unfair!
I totally appreciate your comments and I do agree that there are no other real travel car seat options. When I contacted maxi Cosi direct they were suggesting ways to make it better which to me sounds like they acknowledge the issue I have flagged. This car seat doesn’t work effectively in all cars due to the buckle set ups, which means you’d be taking a risk using this in taxi, or hire cars as you wouldn’t really know how safely it could be fitted, which is something I am just not comfortable with. I guess it’s personal preference, but my 2.5yr old was moving the seat around so much that I cannot see how it would be safe which I couldn’t be dealing with whilst driving.
As with everything, each parent will have their own tolerance to this sort of thing, and regardless of being one of the only options, it’s not the option for me. If this seat had isofix is would be perfect!
@@erinlouiseruth yeah, but if you take a hire car with a hire car seat, you're not guaranteed to get any better fit, actually the opposite, most of the seats you get in car hires are far worse even though they have no size or weight restrictions. Neither me nor anyone I know was ever offered a car seat with isofix. So basically that is the deal, the travel seat you carry, which at least is of known quality, without any accident, neither dirty nor worn out, or you pay basically same for unknown, likely worse sea in unknown conditions, and no, in fact, no guarantee you're even getting one. There are options to rent better seats from shops in many places, but you first need to get there from the airport, etc, IMO its ridiculous we even have such problems in 2024, but it seems that's what happens if market (including rentals) is purely money oriented and with no real competition
Had exactly the same Problem when I tried it in our car, returned it and bought the urban kanga, there exactly the same problem again. @Amy Peggs describes the problem perfectly.
But witht that design, they are not usefull as a travel seat, as you never know what your rental car/taxi will be and how the seat belt anchor will be...
You should definitely refer this to Maxi Cosi. They should be able to support you best practice installation and indeed review this if necessary. Always, always reach out to Brands with experience and feedback I'd say. They have the expertees, resources and are as invested in car seat safety for your child as you. 💕
i would rather trust that these products have been properly tested before coming to market, rather than listen to a youtube review. if this was such an obvious flaw in the design, it would not have been allowed to be sold. so its more likely some user error in this review, as other comments have suggested.
Thanks for taking the time to comment. As others have said, the type of seat belt clip you have fitted in the car can make a significant impact on how ‘tight’ the seat can go. If the seat belt clips and flush with the seat and are not on ‘arms’ then you won’t get as much movement. In my car (mini) the belt clips are higher then the seat, so regardless how tight you pull the car seat, it will never be super tight as there is natural movement in the belt clip. Even if this wasn’t an issue in my car, it could be the case if I was in a taxi or hire car. This seat is also advertised from 9months- and is very upright. Neither of my children would have been safe in that at 9months!
The idea is great, and others are trying to do it too…. But there is always compromise!
I feel I have to point out that you made a big error in the review. You have repeated it here: the car seat is not advertised for a 9 month old... It would be crazy to do this! It's for 9kg and upwards, which is where I think you got confused. @@erinlouiseruth
My son is 16 now so I haven't had car seat experience for quite a while, but we had a seat all those years ago with the same issue. However, the seat had straps with hooks in addition to using the car's seatbelt, and we discovered that cars have hard-mounted anchor points (usually down in the crack between the seat bottom and back) to attach the hooks to, and we could get the seat mounted really tight with those. Idk if UK vehicles have the same things, and like I say this was long ago.. but maybe if they do you'll be able to use your seat! I hope this comment is coherent lol, it sounds good in my head 😁
I’ve checked and definitely no other points for attachment. Very strange isn’t it!
😳😳😳 welcome to try in my car see if it does the same , but deffo doesn’t look great 😢 x
Problem is, even if it was ok in my car, we got the specificity for travel so if a cab or hire car at the wrong style belt buckle thing it wouldn’t work. So frustrating!
Thanks for the video! Which car seat did you use in the end? Am also on the hunt for portable seat for my 12month old!
Hey! I haven’t found one atall suitable yet! Either not secure enough or not actually that easy to travel with!
I wonder whether it actually matters that there is a bit of movement in the actual seat, because there would be no movement in the belt? Does this make sense?
@@erinlouiseruth Thanks for the reply!
I have checked and it says 9kg onwards. Not for 9mths.
Second you loop the diagonal belt into the two anchors which is incorrect based on instructions video.
Hope u correct your video..i was almost put off buying this until i saw others highlight the errors.
I dont mean any disrespect but misinformation can be very stressful for first time moms trying to make good decisions
Hello, it’s been noted before the production information has been changed online since this video was posted. I had also been I contact with the company and flagged my concerns with them direct. This seat was originally advertised as from 9kg.
I appreciate your comments around the fitting but others to have experienced the same problem with this seat. If works for you in your car then great. This type of product is a great idea if it fits properly!
I’ve updated the thumbnail to show the original description of this car seat stating from 9months. The new model has updated to show 15months
O dear, that does not seem fast and firm at all 😱Also seems a bit on the small side for Rory 😏
Just to make clear for anyone from a safety perspective, there is a big error in the review. The seat is not advertised for a 9 month old.
It is for 15 months / 9kg minimum child. I believe Erin confused 9kg for 9 months.
Hi, thanks for your comment, I actually think they have altered the age range as when I purchased this item it was from 9 months. On Amazon and other retailers it is still actually listed from 9 months despite maxi cosi website showing 15months.
They only say 15 months because legally you aren't allowed to put a baby under 15 months in a front facing seat in the UK.
Possibly, but this seat was advertised as from 9months. My updated thumbnail shows the original description for this seat. The new model description has been changed… potentially since I flagged this issues
Thanks for the clarification @MrAmbrosse and @erinlouiseruth
Thank you, you’ve made our decision which travel car seat to choose so much easier 🫶
Hi, would be useful to share (if different than this) which travel car seat did you settle for ;)
nachfolger Hyfive is best.
I’m so confused how they can say this seat is for 9month old and over. No 9 month old should be forward facing, and especially with ZERO recline?? I’m sure chin to chest head flop would occur with any infant or baby to at least 18months old
There was a mistake in the review... The car seat is for 15 months / 9 kg minimum
Wow that is not how you set up a non iso fix car seat... ofcourse the seat is going to move back and forth like that... it isn't tensioned..EEP
Hello! I can assure you I followed the instructions and video tutorial. The seat was as tight as it could go. We came to the conclusion that due to the seat belt within the seat being raised and flexible and not sunken and solid; there was always going to be some movement. I even tried this in another car
Hi @@erinlouiseruth but you are kneeling down on the ground, so you have no leverage to create effective tension...
You have to stand up, pull the seatbelt whilst pressing down on the babyseat using your bodyweight and you use a push/ pull method to remove the slack from seatbelt.
We ended up purchasing this carseat(on recommendation of the first part of your video actually - thank you) and its great because we are jetsetting around Europe changing cars often so the fold up and lightweightness is really handy.
We don't have any slipping because we make sure we secure it properly.
@@LaurentGamboa Did you use the car seat on airplanes while you were traveling? Since it doesn't have an airplane-safe label, I'm afraid the airlines will not allow me to use it. Has anyone used it on an airplane? I'm flying with my 17-month-old baby, and I like the seat. I just don't want to deal with the airline staff telling me I cannot use it.
it would be nice to edit you remove this video or u learn how to fit it properly and upload again
@@andresmalo254 hi, if you had read previous comments you’d see that anyone with the type of seat belt I had would have the same problem due to it being on a stalk. This isn’t suitable as a go to travel item if you don’t know what setup the car will have
Let your husband install the car seat
Please reply
They need to be at least 4.5 to go into a high back booster with adult seatbelt safely!
Until then they should be rear facing
There is another folding car seat that looks identical to this, and has been independently tested and it score atrociously bad!
Plus what you’re experiencing here is forward anchorage
Is it the urban kanga?
I am too surprised these have passed testing!
These seat does have a 5 point belt and not the adult belt for the child but doesn’t change how secure the seat itself is
Absolutely incorrect installation. Just delete this video , lol 😂
@@neevmarcel4639 given many have had the same experience I’d argue it isn’t an installation issue. If you have belts that are on stalks, you cannot get the tension needed for these to secure properly