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So far I've read a lot about the specifications and what Honda says about it. What we're all waiting for is real life experience from riders with no investment in the bike.
Good overview. I would have preferred tubeless, cruise and a bolt-on rear subframe, but none of these was a deal-breaker for me, and according to the first press-launch reviews of the Hornet, the engine is a good ‘un🤞😊
Thanks RM! Yes I've been watching those, the engine does seem like a cracker. Looking forward to seeing what you think of it when you get the chance to throw a leg over one. ;)
@@BikesILike According to my dealer, I'm first on the list for the Spain/Portugal Transalp allocation, but I doubt I'll see it before the end of March at the earliest. She said I can review the Hornet as soon as they get those in, which could be as early as the end of this year. Fingers crossed :)
@@RocketMan_Moto Wow, nice! So you're definitely buying the Transalp RM? We won't see the Transalp here in Oz til the second half of 2023. The end of this year for the Hornet... that's not far away at all!
As a Honda-lover for a couple of decades i decited not to wait for the TA release. Instead i got my hands on a T7. More than happy i did so. Way too much electronic stuff for my personal use. I am a motorcycle mechanic since 30 years and i know why i am no lover of electronics. Ok, Honda is known that their stuff works nearly perfect over years. But a single stupid drop can ruin your trip pretty fast. Nice video !
I'm glad I didn't wait for this bike and got the V85TT. I've got the adjustable suspension, heated grips, panniers, cruise control, connectability, center stand, tubeless tires and all I need in this bike. I was hoping for more from Honda, whose bikes I trust, but they didn't deliver on this one.
Really useful vid - thanks. Omission of cruise control might be something Honda decided on to stop the Transalp getting too close to the Africa Twin spec - or perhaps they have future model year updates in mind - how do you upgrade the bike that already has everything? Anyway, given that I expected Honda to artificially limit the engine output to keep a bigger gap to the Africa Twin personally I'll take no cruise control as the compromise any day of the week (assuming the launch price is competitive of course).
Someone reading the specs to me is useless. In other words this presenter doesn’t know anything other than what he is reading. I guess if you were considering an Aprilia 660 this is a possibility. A More affordable Africa twin alternative. A competitor to the Suzuki and Yamaha’s. It is probably more manageable off road than the Africa Twin with the right packages. Bigger is not better off road.
The engine doesn't seem to be 'artificially limited' in any way ... the Transalp has the same output figures as the 750 Hornet ... 75nm and 90hp. If you look at the competition with same engine config it's pretty much bang on the nose of what would be expected ..... little bit more than the 700 P-twins (like the T7 and Tuareg ) ... not quite as much as the 800 P-twins (like the 790 Adventure)
Finally someone who looks for length of a person and if he/she will fit the bike . Especialy for the wind turbulence. Please also for people above 1.9m
This body length item is just not addressed and manufacturers keep there mouth shut … while they just could indicate what screen would be the best for your length at certain speeds what you normally drive for 80% of the time. Once your length is above 1.8m women adore you people look up to you …but manufacturers of most products leave you in the unknown .
Having had Cruise Control for last couple of years on my MT-100, I find it is not as useful as I had hoped. Unless you are a solo rider that rides on empty streets, it's hard to find a time when it is really useful. If you ride with other riders, they will slow down and speed up at a different rates, making CC kind of pointless. Then there are the cars on the road that also travel at inconsistent speeds causing issues as well... Long way of saying, CC sure isn't a deal breaker for me. Since the T7 has become unobtainium, the Transalp could be a decent Plan B.
I think it will be like all the older Alps and that is bloody good and versatile. Nobody likes to admit it, but the specs are usable. Cruise control should be on board though.
The old Transalp was a dead boring bike. I don't even recall any other bike that I've ridden which was that boring. All I remember is that you open it full throttle and it just starts vibrating like crazy, but doesn't move you anywhere. What a terrible riding experience. I very much hope Honda didn't try to replicate it in the new model and added some spice to its character.
In some ways the new Transalp is the baby Africa Twin? Regarding cruise control, in the UK the latest Triumph T120 has omitted heated grips and provided CC instead (with the former being an option). Clearly Triumph are pandering to North America with this. In the UK, heated grips are a more appropriate standard feature.
Looks like a winner. Yes cruise, tall screen, and fully loaded. I have a Roadking and a thruxton in the barn and this bike might replace both. Nice video. 😊
Another excellent video - THANKS! As you mentioned on the other video, the lack of Crise Control (even as a dealer-fitted option) seems an oversight. With throttle-by-wire technology present it seems like an easily incorporated function and definitely a missed opportunity. Boo
Turns out they are in fact coming to Canada! My father has one coming in just a couple weeks from now. He previously had an Africa Twin but as he gets older it’s a little heavy (my brother has it now). I’m excited to see it.
I cant wait for this one to arrive in NZ. Ive been after a more general purpose upgrade from my cbr500. But an africa twin is too big for me for commuting. And i dont want a 500x because i already want more power from the 500r... This will tick lot of boxes. Sure it could be better in some ways, but i want a reasonably priced all rounder... cant wait.
Going to be interesting how this new Honda engine stacks up against the new slightly less powerful parallel twin from Suzuki See Suzuki now have their parallel twin in the new V-Strom and it would be a nice comparison between the Transalp and V strom. Again it will be an interesting comparison between the new Hornet and the new Suzuki GSXS8. The Honda Hornet which we saw at the recent bike show looked good and was well priced. Sad to say I missed the Transalp.
I have those comparisons planned Bandit. Although the naked comparison will feature 5 bikes as there are a couple of other naked's I'd like to pit against the GSX-8S and Hornet 750. ;)
How do u not put cruise control and tubeless tires on an adventure bike?🤦♂️🤦♂️ I've never understood why Honda and also some of Suzuki V-Strom Models do this not putting cruise control 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️ just doesn't make sense 🤷♂️
The lack of a fully adjustable suspension system (preload, compression, rebound) is a deal breaker, for me. If Honda is truly going for an all-around bike, the first thing you need for rider comfort and performance is to adjust the suspension for payload or conditions.
stop the bs, nobody ever adjusts any suspension, at most you adjust the preload on your rear suspension if you carry a passenger. Get a premium one like Africa Twin if you want all those little details, this one will be a cheaper alternative.
You know, I am still leaning towards the KLR as a second bike, given that my primary bike is the Sportster S. As a primary bike, this would be worth considering if you only had room for one allrounder. I guesstimate the price at about 24K AU with the side and top boxes compared to the KLR at 12K AU. The more I see pricing wise, the more I lean towards the KLR.
Based on UK pricing for the Transalp, my guesstimations would put the Transalp at around $15-$17K AUD in Oz. At 24K, I feel that puts it way too close to the flagship Africa Twin. I agree, the Transalp makes more sense as a primary all rounder bike. If I was in your situation, starting at $10,700 AUD the KLR probably makes more sense. Although if money was no option, I'd probably go for the Transalp.... or maybe even the AT or... :)
It looks worth one to me . And with all that tech. I would be lost for days trying too find the map compartment . Still I started on a sixty two and get excided seeing those guys build me another one . T/C/E
In side view, there's a refreshingly large amount of open space. I'm with you on torque being more important than HP. That's why I hate the torque metric as it's currently used. Tell me a bike has 75 torques, and I'll say that's nice, but how many of them are available at 4K rpms, where I live?
That high end power is really going to cost in trade off with low end torque. But I guess we will see. I'm really hoping it ends up de tuned for 80hp 7,200rpm is much to high for peak torque. 5,250rpm would be better.
Another excellent review and the first in depth review of this model that I have seen, so congratulations on that. I must admit to growing to like this bike more than I initially did. I still think it looks bland, but from other reviews I have seen on the Hornet, the engine does seem to be quite impressive, so it will be interesting to see how the Transalp performs with its remapped engine. I still have some reservations about the bike however. Certainly, the Honda press blurb whets my appetite, but is it a case of a bike that does everything but excels at nothing? Only time will tell I suppose. For me, interested in its touring capabilities, the main issues remain, the tubed tyres, lack of cruise control and height of the bike. I also wonder about the comfort for longer rides as off-road seats tend to be too narrow for my liking. Still in conclusion it is a very interesting bike and could well be a real winner.
Thanks Philip! I know so many questions we won't know the answers to until someone rides. The good news is the press journo's are on the Hornet right now! Expect to see reviews incoming very soon.
55.3 ft*lbs @ 7250 rpm means there's roughly 76 hp at that rpm. Tq at the rear wheel is gear dependent. From those two values, it's clear it's breathing good on top. Hopeful for good acceleration at lower revs, but given it's smaller displacement I don't anticipate it's going to tear any arms out of their sockets, the poetic Honda prose not withstanding. I'm sure it'll be more than powerful enough to spin the tire in dirt though. Love the ergos of it, the passenger accommodations, the optional top box, and the looks of it. I'm sure you'll bust my bubble when you do your video where my feet are dangling a foot off the ground. Hopefully, someone will come along with some lowering links/shorter fork springs. I'm smitten with this one and I haven't bought a Honda for ~35 years.
@@chrishart8548 I'm sure it will be able to do it at far lower rpms too. Unlikely to hang with a Busa in a top gear roll on from 30 mph though. I'm more worried about the reviews I keep seeing about it's jerky on/off throttle. I suspect the reviewers are riding it in "sport" mode, which has the shittiest fueling on all bikes. I'm also worried about finding a lowering kit as the seat's up at 33.5" and mine inseam is closer to 29".
I almost got the Africa Twin… I got the BMW R 1250 GSA. I think this would be too small for me on the road… and if I was going straight dirt, I would go KTM
I've watched several reviews of the Transalp on different channels. The same thing comes up over and over. They made the bike look like an adventure bike, but it is a street bike with limited offroad. Everyone is disappointed. I tend to agree. One channel said that if you want a slightly larger CB500X, this is the bike for you. Otherwise buy an Africa Twin. I want to see people ride it and review it. It has some things I like and some I don't. I have a feeling it won't do great in the US but will have a bigger audience across the pond.
The location of the sump pump alone says it all. It sticks out below like balls on a dog. Not an off-road bike and clearly not designed by off-road experienced engineers.
@@sanjosejeff Most likely the engineers just weren't allowed to rework the sump to cut costs. Also note how they've mounted the muffler to the pillion's right peg. A cheap move. So although the pillion pegs are removable you cannot actually remove them. Typical Honda.
@@cheetah694 there’s quite a bit more I didn’t comment on. They would have been better off bringing back the 750 Africa twin with modern electronics. Transalp is a glorified street bike
Again no-body talking about how effin high the engine sits. This is going to seriously lift the centre of gravity. You won't notice it when going at speed. But in technical terrain, that will make the bike top heavy and prone to fall over whenever it gets unsettled. That'll also make it also a pig to pick up. My 500x which is "light" on paper, is freaking heavy on the ground, especially for a "light" 500. I wouldn't be surprised if a BMW boxer is easier in difficult terrain.
That's a good point. Personally I thought they would use the NC750X base for this bike with it's parallel twin engine laid down and fuel tank under the seat to keep the weight low. I was surprised when they came up with this all new design. Time will tell if they got it right.
@@BikesILike i was having that exact hope as well. They had the opportunity to make something that would distinguish itself from the rest of the adventure bikes. The storage bin and weight distribution would have been wonderful. Good protection, ability to carry luggage on trips and mid level of wind protection would make it a true overlander, coupled with just the right amount of tech, Japanese reliability and maintainability. The last 2 are the reason I'm not too interested in European, Indian, Chinese or American offerings. I like going to places where recovery would be an expensive endeavour. - check my username. I personally don't care about all those gizmos like drive modes, Bluetooth, cruise control, gps,..... If I wanted all that luxury I'd get a Goldwing or god forbid...... drive a car. If you want to be comfortable on a long trip, well... you can't beat a quiet rain proof cabin with heater, AC and comfortable seat, especially if the weather goes bad on you. Aren't adventure bikes meant for exploration and overland riding? You know, to see places? In terms of tech: Give me ABS, EFI and a trip computer with a few things that help me daily and that can't be retrofitted on the cheap. I can buy heated grips, spot lights, have GPS on my phone and fitting charging equipment as I like. The equipment that you can't retrofit, is where popular, rugged alternatives so often fall short. Things like accurate fuel statistics. They help me with planning in truly remote areas. It's so bizarre to me to see dirt oriented bikes like the KLX300 that don't even have a fuel gauge in 2022! On my 500, it's been so useful to know my exact consumption as I could budget my riding pace and know with a high degree of certainty whether I could make it to the next fuel stop if I chose a certain route. A good windscreen is nice for long rides and when commuting. A gear indicator also goes a long way in traffic. That's something that's missing from remarkably many bikes and not something that's expensive. A cheap arse Honda Wave 100 has a big gear indicator. Now they've made yet another expensive SUV bike that'll go fast on mild gravel roads. The X-ADV has been an interesting concept. But the cost with the fancy DCT gearbox has been off-putting to me. The motorcycle industry has a genuine problem with its target audience ageing. That's not helped by focusing overly on the premium market, which by default is going to be older. So many have been screaming for an affordable 400 or so cc bike with light design and a modicum of refinement so it's not totally insane to ride a bit longer. The royal Enfield Himalayan and CRF300l are the closest to that idea and kind of alone in that field. The Versys X 300, just revs too much.
I think they are nerfing the Transalp because it’s geared more towards a commuter you can hit fire roads on while the Africa Twin is more of a big dirt bike you can commute on. It is not meant to cannibalize Africa Twin sales.
Deal breaker for me. I've been waiting for this but I was expecting the trans alp to be optioned as a lighter, ~750cc, AT DCT ES and what the ... no cruise control! I'll stay with my ST1300 thanks Honda.
Some of my friends made fun of me when I sold my big bikes and bought a KTM 390 Adventure. After learning the specifications on this bike, I think I made the right decision - for me….
One guy that rode the Hornet said the MT-07 has more torque at low rpm, but less power at high rpm. I have rode a 90 horsepower bike since 2012, the 150 mph top speed is plenty, and since it is an inline 4 there is very little vibration and low torque at low rpm. It will be interesting to see if this Honda is rated higher than the Tenere for off road ability. Clearly a lot more expensive than a Himalayan.
@@carlosandleon I would expect the T7 to be better off road and the Transalp to be better on road. Will be interesting to see what the reviewers discover.
Perhaps it just in the U.S. or my region but Honda, Kawasaki and Suzuki have the same problem. The new models from these companies is exciting BUT and it is a big BUT they can't get bikes to the dealers for them to sell. I'll be doing a video on this and here what the dealer says.
I'd like to see that Flat Cap. While seemingly plentiful in the UK and Europe, It's hard to really know how easy or difficult it is to buy these bikes in markets like ours.
A look at the clearance, and the fact that the pipes would be smashed if you ignore that clearance, tells me what Honda thinks of the stock TA's off-road ability.. Sure, there's a rally package and there will be aftermarket skid plates, but that loses you another inch or more of clearance. The Tenere's clearance accounts for a stock (plastic) skidplate, so the clearance stays similar with a better, aftermarket skidplate. But I don't think I need anything like 150mph on an ADV bike, personally, but I'm happy there is now more Japanese competition to the likes of KTM and Aprilla, etc.. I'm still hoping for a middle weight Africa Twin to compete with the T7 offroad.
it's pretty tall. I think it has more ground clearance than the previous transalp and the ones before that. It also has more ground clearance than my kle 500. It's specs are adequate as an enduro tourer.
incredible that a modern bike still uses tubes, can any one tell me the advantage of this, I am mystified my old sl230 has a tubeless rim on the rear, and god I wish it had that on the front also. surly tubeless is so much safer, as the beads say on the rim when a flat occurs while a tubed tire has you sliding all over the road with total loss of contact with bead seat. I have ridden a few times from babinda to innisfail with a flat rear and only relizsed from the tire starting to smell. some 25 kays on main highway. bead never separated but my sym simba has tubed rear and wonse goining to cairns flat out ,...85 kay per ,..tire went flat ripped stem from tube and the following slide show was of massive proportions. I used to think my great skill saved me but i now relies its the forward momentum that keep you upright. still keeping the bike in the same lane is almost imposable due to bead separation. got so sideways wore big toe down to the bone without falling of. only time i have ever had uncontrolled flat rear tubeless was on my old cbx 1000 with the then new radial tires two up, much the same slide show as the little simba. why the hell are we losing new models, like the c125 and trail cub and no doubt others to the mental rear a.b.s law when ancient drangous tech like this is permitted to be imported here. also a tubeless is so much easier to repair on the side of the road with a plug kit. so can some one explain what the benefit of tubed tires,... is in 2022,.....i cant see any.
You make some very solid arguments for tubeless tyres. I think what's happening here with the Transalp is cost cutting. These spoked wheels are obviously more cost effective, and I reckon Honda's target price is around $16-$17K AUD for the Transalp here in Oz. Also, the thinking probably is that they have the Africa Twin if people want features like tubeless spoked wheels. Although the base model AT looks like it also has tubed tyres.
@@BikesILike I just think with out rim locks they should be banned. I have never had a bike with rim locks even my ty 250 trials bike hade none, so I dont think they are very common. to ban the sale of bikes without abs on both ends and let tubed rims be sold is worse than funny. just shows' how down trodden we are by our peer groups interaction with government. I spent many tens of hours interacting with Honda Australia, to get c125 sold here through emails. along with others, and due to Hondas total lack of advertising any product, including them, sales would not reach stellar levels. so hey presto, they decide not to continue importing them due to not meeting the dual abs requirement. in my 55 years of riding, I have never seen the cycle market is so poor a shape, and so poorly served in bike choice. lack of advertising will be the death of Honda Australia and they richly deserve that fate.
When my 2000 Transalp finally breaks down in a decade or two, this bike will be affordable for this frugal middle aged Dutchie, on the second hand market. Was signed: Laughing all the way to the bank😜
Great review, thank you. Well since I can't seem to locate T7 to save my life here in SW Florida, I'm hoping Honda has their shit together and can produce and supply bikes we want , unlike Yamaha... 😐
They should have had a simple analogue Speedos and rev counter and then it will be. Cheap, basic, simple and strong. Many bikers like the royal Enfield continental and even the cb500x for that.
Looksa very interesting bike. From the marketing material it is clearly designed as a touring all rounder, not a hard core Tenere competitor. So it is not the bike to do the Canning Stock Route. In all honesty a DRZ 400 makes a better platform for hard core remote off road touring. Even a Tenere is a heavy bike for that kind of riding. This is really the Toyota Kluger of the motorbike world. Not the Jeep Wrangler Rubicon. The great thing about consumerism is you can pick the product that best suits your needs. All engineering demands a series of compromises. Honda have made a bike geared towards touring, with the ability to do dirt road (not single track) riding as well. It is a bike that would suit my needs, as at my age, I am not interested in doing the Canning or the Simpson. If I did want to do those rides, the DRZ400 is what I’d choose. It would be a pretty slow ride getting to those tracks though.
Seems like good usable bike with more of the original intent and usability of the Africa Twin than the new Africa Twin which has become a bit of an over-tech bloater.
I'm not sure that going over marketing material from Honda really provides any insight into the bike. Honda has obviously put together slick press material aimed at the hot adventure market, but it's mostly a bunch of buzz words without any real world information. The Transalp might be a great bike, and I hope it is, but I'm really looking forward to getting beyond the sales hype.
Excellent video. Thank you. The dealers in NZ say the Transalps aren't arriving till June, so that might mean September or later! When are they due to hit the ground in Oz? Cheers.
Nice bike but too much electronics I won't use. I will probably choose the vstrom 800 with more suspension travel, stock quick shifter and a comfortable seat. The Honda is more a better looking bike though.
Tube tires and over 420lbs is no go for me. Just another flop. cb500x is still better deal in my view. Little underpowered for US roads but good enough to put on hitch carrier of truck to haul on vacation or tour 2000 miles.
In short: We made a bike that offers slight offroad ability with great on road, long haul ability. We could have most definitely made it better but then that would overshadow our Africa Twin.... And while we're all about competitiveness with the likes of Yamaha and KTM, We can't allow a $10k bike to outshine our flagship bike... Sorry not sorry. 🙃
Interesting. By my calculations after doing currency conversion and slapping on an Aussie tax/markup that would put the price around $15/$16K AUD. That seems reasonable.
Being connected to my telephone comes in last place by importance. Why is so much emphasis placed on something so unimportant? I want my bike to run good and go on pavement, gravel and some trails while leaving me feel confident that it can get me there and back.
My understanding is that the fuel tank is located in the usual position, above the engine. Don't have any info on the air filter yet but these patent drawings might help shed some light... www.cycleworld.com/story/motorcycle-news/honda-transalp-750-patent-details/
People wanted an Africa Twin 750….not a CB750x with 80/20 street/ dirt tires with an ADV class slapped on it for the “dirt road” only driving crowd. FAIL
Spec sheet warriors have been ragging all over this bike with click bait hate. I bet when the aftermarket gets hold of it, it will outsell both CB500X and CRF1100L and be more capable offroad than the former, and on par with the later. Its lighter than the AT and therefore can make do with less travel. Wingers "theres no bolt on subframe " boo hoo the CRF1000L hasn't got one either, and no one cared then. Its become cool to cry online about supposed short comings of a bike that no ones even ridden yet. Hilarious. No cruise? It will be built in Thailand I think so it will be to a price point like the CB500X and will probably come in at under AUD$16000, leaving plenty of room for suspension upgrade and a propper framed bash plate that someone like rally raid will bring to market like the 500x setup. After that and a mc cruise control addition if needed, it will be a great RTW machine.
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So far I've read a lot about the specifications and what Honda says about it. What we're all waiting for is real life experience from riders with no investment in the bike.
Yea I agree, A Good user report from an Owner would be good footage assuming the owner rides as YOU ride and has the same Inseam as YOU have .....
Good overview. I would have preferred tubeless, cruise and a bolt-on rear subframe, but none of these was a deal-breaker for me, and according to the first press-launch reviews of the Hornet, the engine is a good ‘un🤞😊
Thanks RM! Yes I've been watching those, the engine does seem like a cracker. Looking forward to seeing what you think of it when you get the chance to throw a leg over one. ;)
@@BikesILike According to my dealer, I'm first on the list for the Spain/Portugal Transalp allocation, but I doubt I'll see it before the end of March at the earliest. She said I can review the Hornet as soon as they get those in, which could be as early as the end of this year. Fingers crossed :)
@@RocketMan_Moto Wow, nice! So you're definitely buying the Transalp RM? We won't see the Transalp here in Oz til the second half of 2023.
The end of this year for the Hornet... that's not far away at all!
@@RocketMan_Moto Scratch the Transalp question... I just saw you made a video! I'll watch that! ;)
probably Honda will upgrade it on the 2nd gen in 4 years time
Hopefully Safari Tanks do a long range tank for it. Another 9L would be very handy for us here in Aus
As a Honda-lover for a couple of decades i decited not to wait for the TA release. Instead i got my hands on a T7. More than happy i did so. Way too much electronic stuff for my personal use. I am a motorcycle mechanic since 30 years and i know why i am no lover of electronics. Ok, Honda is known that their stuff works nearly perfect over years. But a single stupid drop can ruin your trip pretty fast. Nice video !
Thank you!
I'm glad I didn't wait for this bike and got the V85TT. I've got the adjustable suspension, heated grips, panniers, cruise control, connectability, center stand, tubeless tires and all I need in this bike. I was hoping for more from Honda, whose bikes I trust, but they didn't deliver on this one.
And 50 kgs more
@@wton Don't feel it.
Great video. Thanks. No cruise control, no tubeless tires. No sale here.
Thank you!
Really useful vid - thanks. Omission of cruise control might be something Honda decided on to stop the Transalp getting too close to the Africa Twin spec - or perhaps they have future model year updates in mind - how do you upgrade the bike that already has everything? Anyway, given that I expected Honda to artificially limit the engine output to keep a bigger gap to the Africa Twin personally I'll take no cruise control as the compromise any day of the week (assuming the launch price is competitive of course).
Someone reading the specs to me is useless. In other words this presenter doesn’t know anything other than what he is reading. I guess if you were considering an Aprilia 660 this is a possibility. A More affordable Africa twin alternative. A competitor to the Suzuki and Yamaha’s. It is probably more manageable off road than the Africa Twin with the right packages. Bigger is not better off road.
The engine doesn't seem to be 'artificially limited' in any way ... the Transalp has the same output figures as the 750 Hornet ... 75nm and 90hp. If you look at the competition with same engine config it's pretty much bang on the nose of what would be expected ..... little bit more than the 700 P-twins (like the T7 and Tuareg ) ... not quite as much as the 800 P-twins (like the 790 Adventure)
Finally someone who looks for length of a person and if he/she will fit the bike . Especialy for the wind turbulence. Please also for people above 1.9m
This body length item is just not addressed and manufacturers keep there mouth shut … while they just could indicate what screen would be the best for your length at certain speeds what you normally drive for 80% of the time. Once your length is above 1.8m women adore you people look up to you …but manufacturers of most products leave you in the unknown .
Having had Cruise Control for last couple of years on my MT-100, I find it is not as useful as I had hoped. Unless you are a solo rider that rides on empty streets, it's hard to find a time when it is really useful. If you ride with other riders, they will slow down and speed up at a different rates, making CC kind of pointless. Then there are the cars on the road that also travel at inconsistent speeds causing issues as well... Long way of saying, CC sure isn't a deal breaker for me. Since the T7 has become unobtainium, the Transalp could be a decent Plan B.
It really depends on where you live and how many hours at a time you spend in the saddle. When riding long distances cruise control is a must for me.
No electronic cruise control is a big miss-IMO. Would've preferred tubeless tires too. Guess I'll reserve judgement until I ride one.
I think it will be like all the older Alps and that is bloody good and versatile. Nobody likes to admit it, but the specs are usable. Cruise control should be on board though.
The old Transalp was a dead boring bike. I don't even recall any other bike that I've ridden which was that boring. All I remember is that you open it full throttle and it just starts vibrating like crazy, but doesn't move you anywhere. What a terrible riding experience. I very much hope Honda didn't try to replicate it in the new model and added some spice to its character.
Yeah the fact that they don’t have cruise control on the trans help as a standard thing is ridiculous to me this day and age
Couldn"t this still come as an update?
sadly no, because the sensor for the clutch and the wiring harnest won't allow it.
Only solution would be very hard install: MC Cruise
Thank God
In some ways the new Transalp is the baby Africa Twin?
Regarding cruise control, in the UK the latest Triumph T120 has omitted heated grips and provided CC instead (with the former being an option). Clearly Triumph are pandering to North America with this. In the UK, heated grips are a more appropriate standard feature.
Totally agree! I think any bike that is made for highway or interstate speed maybe even the cb500x and this should have cruise control.
Looks like a winner. Yes cruise, tall screen, and fully loaded. I have a Roadking and a thruxton in the barn and this bike might replace both. Nice video. 😊
Another excellent video - THANKS! As you mentioned on the other video, the lack of Crise Control (even as a dealer-fitted option) seems an oversight. With throttle-by-wire technology present it seems like an easily incorporated function and definitely a missed opportunity. Boo
Thank you!
Turns out they are in fact coming to Canada! My father has one coming in just a couple weeks from now.
He previously had an Africa Twin but as he gets older it’s a little heavy (my brother has it now).
I’m excited to see it.
Great to hear!
i just discovered your channel and think its great! I'm looking for the Transalp to see how it behaves on the road! great job!
Thanks Eddie! I'm glad you found me
I cant wait for this one to arrive in NZ. Ive been after a more general purpose upgrade from my cbr500. But an africa twin is too big for me for commuting. And i dont want a 500x because i already want more power from the 500r... This will tick lot of boxes. Sure it could be better in some ways, but i want a reasonably priced all rounder... cant wait.
Sounds like it's right in the sweet spot for you. Hope the wait is not too long!
Going to be interesting how this new Honda engine stacks up against the new slightly less powerful parallel twin from Suzuki
See Suzuki now have their parallel twin in the new V-Strom and it would be a nice comparison between the Transalp and V strom. Again it will be an interesting comparison between the new Hornet and the new Suzuki GSXS8. The Honda Hornet which we saw at the recent bike show looked good and was well priced. Sad to say I missed the Transalp.
I have those comparisons planned Bandit. Although the naked comparison will feature 5 bikes as there are a couple of other naked's I'd like to pit against the GSX-8S and Hornet 750. ;)
@@BikesILike sounds great
Good job Bil, can't wait for someone to ride & review this beauty.
Thank you! Me too!
Good video as always. I will get my hopes up and get excited and probably be disappointed when it doesn't come to the US.
Thanks Davy! I hope it comes to the US too! Honda would be crazy to not sell this bike there.
How do u not put cruise control and tubeless tires on an adventure bike?🤦♂️🤦♂️ I've never understood why Honda and also some of Suzuki V-Strom Models do this not putting cruise control 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️ just doesn't make sense 🤷♂️
The lack of a fully adjustable suspension system (preload, compression, rebound) is a deal breaker, for me. If Honda is truly going for an all-around bike, the first thing you need for rider comfort and performance is to adjust the suspension for payload or conditions.
Honda are not going for an all round bike. Just an improvement and step up from a cb500x and the original transalp design.
stop the bs, nobody ever adjusts any suspension, at most you adjust the preload on your rear suspension if you carry a passenger.
Get a premium one like Africa Twin if you want all those little details, this one will be a cheaper alternative.
What a great allround bike . Thanks for the great review.
You know, I am still leaning towards the KLR as a second bike, given that my primary bike is the Sportster S. As a primary bike, this would be worth considering if you only had room for one allrounder. I guesstimate the price at about 24K AU with the side and top boxes compared to the KLR at 12K AU. The more I see pricing wise, the more I lean towards the KLR.
Same!
Based on UK pricing for the Transalp, my guesstimations would put the Transalp at around $15-$17K AUD in Oz. At 24K, I feel that puts it way too close to the flagship Africa Twin. I agree, the Transalp makes more sense as a primary all rounder bike. If I was in your situation, starting at $10,700 AUD the KLR probably makes more sense. Although if money was no option, I'd probably go for the Transalp.... or maybe even the AT or... :)
@@BikesILike I understand Honda want to price it at or below the T7 price. In NZ that is $17,899. we shall see!
24, I think not, it’s too simple
Has to compete with t7 at least!
It looks worth one to me . And with all that tech. I would be lost for days trying too find the map compartment . Still I started on a sixty two and get excided seeing those guys build me another one .
T/C/E
In side view, there's a refreshingly large amount of open space. I'm with you on torque being more important than HP. That's why I hate the torque metric as it's currently used. Tell me a bike has 75 torques, and I'll say that's nice, but how many of them are available at 4K rpms, where I live?
That's a really good question Scott. My NC750X is really strong down low, I'm curious to see how the new 755cc twin compares.
That high end power is really going to cost in trade off with low end torque. But I guess we will see. I'm really hoping it ends up de tuned for 80hp 7,200rpm is much to high for peak torque. 5,250rpm would be better.
Id probably go for the v strom.
No cruise control is a deal breaker for me. Good job though and thank you!
Thanks M!
Another excellent review and the first in depth review of this model that I have seen, so congratulations on that. I must admit to growing to like this bike more than I initially did. I still think it looks bland, but from other reviews I have seen on the Hornet, the engine does seem to be quite impressive, so it will be interesting to see how the Transalp performs with its remapped engine. I still have some reservations about the bike however. Certainly, the Honda press blurb whets my appetite, but is it a case of a bike that does everything but excels at nothing? Only time will tell I suppose. For me, interested in its touring capabilities, the main issues remain, the tubed tyres, lack of cruise control and height of the bike. I also wonder about the comfort for longer rides as off-road seats tend to be too narrow for my liking. Still in conclusion it is a very interesting bike and could well be a real winner.
Thanks Philip! I know so many questions we won't know the answers to until someone rides. The good news is the press journo's are on the Hornet right now! Expect to see reviews incoming very soon.
I agree with you Philip, some angles it looks kinda bland but other angles I'm really starting to appreciate it's appearance.
@@geraldburmeister9637 Yes, it is certainly an interesting bike. Sadly, for me however, it falls short in a couple of areas.
and the best thing...based on the tests i ve watched,these that you describing...are true
When the press bikes get dynoed it will be interesting to compare the torque curves of the Transalp and the new V-Strom twin.
For sure!
55.3 ft*lbs @ 7250 rpm means there's roughly 76 hp at that rpm. Tq at the rear wheel is gear dependent. From those two values, it's clear it's breathing good on top. Hopeful for good acceleration at lower revs, but given it's smaller displacement I don't anticipate it's going to tear any arms out of their sockets, the poetic Honda prose not withstanding. I'm sure it'll be more than powerful enough to spin the tire in dirt though. Love the ergos of it, the passenger accommodations, the optional top box, and the looks of it. I'm sure you'll bust my bubble when you do your video where my feet are dangling a foot off the ground. Hopefully, someone will come along with some lowering links/shorter fork springs. I'm smitten with this one and I haven't bought a Honda for ~35 years.
I'm making that leg dangling video right now. :)
It will be able to spin the wheel in the dirt at 9500rpm if that's what you like !
@@chrishart8548 I'm sure it will be able to do it at far lower rpms too. Unlikely to hang with a Busa in a top gear roll on from 30 mph though.
I'm more worried about the reviews I keep seeing about it's jerky on/off throttle. I suspect the reviewers are riding it in "sport" mode, which has the shittiest fueling on all bikes.
I'm also worried about finding a lowering kit as the seat's up at 33.5" and mine inseam is closer to 29".
I almost got the Africa Twin… I got the BMW R 1250 GSA.
I think this would be too small for me on the road… and if I was going straight dirt, I would go KTM
It is in an interesting pocket of the market. Can't wait to see what the riding experience is really like when people finally get to ride it.
I've watched several reviews of the Transalp on different channels. The same thing comes up over and over. They made the bike look like an adventure bike, but it is a street bike with limited offroad. Everyone is disappointed. I tend to agree. One channel said that if you want a slightly larger CB500X, this is the bike for you. Otherwise buy an Africa Twin. I want to see people ride it and review it. It has some things I like and some I don't. I have a feeling it won't do great in the US but will have a bigger audience across the pond.
I too am waiting for the ride reviews before deciding on its capabilities.
The location of the sump pump alone says it all. It sticks out below like balls on a dog.
Not an off-road bike and clearly not designed by off-road experienced engineers.
@@sanjosejeff Most likely the engineers just weren't allowed to rework the sump to cut costs. Also note how they've mounted the muffler to the pillion's right peg. A cheap move. So although the pillion pegs are removable you cannot actually remove them. Typical Honda.
@@cheetah694 there’s quite a bit more I didn’t comment on. They would have been better off bringing back the 750 Africa twin with modern electronics.
Transalp is a glorified street bike
Again no-body talking about how effin high the engine sits.
This is going to seriously lift the centre of gravity. You won't notice it when going at speed.
But in technical terrain, that will make the bike top heavy and prone to fall over whenever it gets unsettled.
That'll also make it also a pig to pick up. My 500x which is "light" on paper, is freaking heavy on the ground, especially for a "light" 500.
I wouldn't be surprised if a BMW boxer is easier in difficult terrain.
That's a good point. Personally I thought they would use the NC750X base for this bike with it's parallel twin engine laid down and fuel tank under the seat to keep the weight low. I was surprised when they came up with this all new design. Time will tell if they got it right.
@@BikesILike i was having that exact hope as well.
They had the opportunity to make something that would distinguish itself from the rest of the adventure bikes.
The storage bin and weight distribution would have been wonderful.
Good protection, ability to carry luggage on trips and mid level of wind protection would make it a true overlander, coupled with just the right amount of tech, Japanese reliability and maintainability.
The last 2 are the reason I'm not too interested in European, Indian, Chinese or American offerings.
I like going to places where recovery would be an expensive endeavour.
- check my username.
I personally don't care about all those gizmos like drive modes, Bluetooth, cruise control, gps,.....
If I wanted all that luxury I'd get a Goldwing or god forbid...... drive a car.
If you want to be comfortable on a long trip, well... you can't beat a quiet rain proof cabin with heater, AC and comfortable seat, especially if the weather goes bad on you.
Aren't adventure bikes meant for exploration and overland riding?
You know, to see places?
In terms of tech:
Give me ABS, EFI and a trip computer with a few things that help me daily and that can't be retrofitted on the cheap. I can buy heated grips, spot lights, have GPS on my phone and fitting charging equipment as I like.
The equipment that you can't retrofit, is where popular, rugged alternatives so often fall short.
Things like accurate fuel statistics. They help me with planning in truly remote areas. It's so bizarre to me to see dirt oriented bikes like the KLX300 that don't even have a fuel gauge in 2022!
On my 500, it's been so useful to know my exact consumption as I could budget my riding pace and know with a high degree of certainty whether I could make it to the next fuel stop if I chose a certain route.
A good windscreen is nice for long rides and when commuting.
A gear indicator also goes a long way in traffic. That's something that's missing from remarkably many bikes and not something that's expensive. A cheap arse Honda Wave 100 has a big gear indicator.
Now they've made yet another expensive SUV bike that'll go fast on mild gravel roads.
The X-ADV has been an interesting concept. But the cost with the fancy DCT gearbox has been off-putting to me.
The motorcycle industry has a genuine problem with its target audience ageing.
That's not helped by focusing overly on the premium market, which by default is going to be older.
So many have been screaming for an affordable 400 or so cc bike with light design and a modicum of refinement so it's not totally insane to ride a bit longer. The royal Enfield Himalayan and CRF300l are the closest to that idea and kind of alone in that field.
The Versys X 300, just revs too much.
Hope the price will be reasonable, and it will sell through the roof!
Good to hear a review from someone other than a rabid off-road nut. Especially, before it’s even available for test ride…
It's a lot in this just 750 cc bike.
Thanks for detailed review 😊
Thanks Masood!
I think they are nerfing the Transalp because it’s geared more towards a commuter you can hit fire roads on while the Africa Twin is more of a big dirt bike you can commute on. It is not meant to cannibalize Africa Twin sales.
Deal breaker for me. I've been waiting for this but I was expecting the trans alp to be optioned as a lighter, ~750cc, AT DCT ES and what the ... no cruise control! I'll stay with my ST1300 thanks Honda.
i ride st1300 , honda 650r, and 1999 cr250r. can't afford to experiment with all this new garbage
Some of my friends made fun of me when I sold my big bikes and bought a KTM 390 Adventure. After learning the specifications on this bike, I think I made the right decision - for me….
17.0344 liter fuel capacity is a deal breaker.
One guy that rode the Hornet said the MT-07 has more torque at low rpm, but less power at high rpm. I have rode a 90 horsepower bike since 2012, the 150 mph top speed is plenty, and since it is an inline 4 there is very little vibration and low torque at low rpm. It will be interesting to see if this Honda is rated higher than the Tenere for off road ability. Clearly a lot more expensive than a Himalayan.
Interesting. Thanks for the heads up!
T7 is surely better offroad
@@carlosandleon I would expect the T7 to be better off road and the Transalp to be better on road. Will be interesting to see what the reviewers discover.
Perhaps it just in the U.S. or my region but Honda, Kawasaki and Suzuki have the same problem. The new models from these companies is exciting BUT and it is a big BUT they can't get bikes to the dealers for them to sell. I'll be doing a video on this and here what the dealer says.
I'd like to see that Flat Cap. While seemingly plentiful in the UK and Europe, It's hard to really know how easy or difficult it is to buy these bikes in markets like ours.
A look at the clearance, and the fact that the pipes would be smashed if you ignore that clearance, tells me what Honda thinks of the stock TA's off-road ability..
Sure, there's a rally package and there will be aftermarket skid plates, but that loses you another inch or more of clearance. The Tenere's clearance accounts for a stock (plastic) skidplate, so the clearance stays similar with a better, aftermarket skidplate.
But I don't think I need anything like 150mph on an ADV bike, personally, but I'm happy there is now more Japanese competition to the likes of KTM and Aprilla, etc..
I'm still hoping for a middle weight Africa Twin to compete with the T7 offroad.
it's pretty tall. I think it has more ground clearance than the previous transalp and the ones before that. It also has more ground clearance than my kle 500.
It's specs are adequate as an enduro tourer.
incredible that a modern bike still uses tubes,
can any one tell me the advantage of this, I am mystified my old sl230 has a tubeless rim on the rear, and god I wish it had that on the front also.
surly tubeless is so much safer, as the beads say on the rim when a flat occurs while a tubed tire has you sliding all over the road with total loss of contact with bead seat.
I have ridden a few times from babinda to innisfail with a flat rear and only relizsed from the tire starting to smell.
some 25 kays on main highway.
bead never separated but my sym simba has tubed rear and wonse goining to cairns flat out ,...85 kay per ,..tire went flat ripped stem from tube and the following slide show was of massive proportions.
I used to think my great skill saved me but i now relies its the forward momentum that keep you upright.
still keeping the bike in the same lane is almost imposable due to bead separation.
got so sideways wore big toe down to the bone without falling of.
only time i have ever had uncontrolled flat rear tubeless was on my old cbx 1000 with the then new radial tires two up, much the same slide show as the little simba.
why the hell are we losing new models, like the c125 and trail cub and no doubt others to the mental rear a.b.s law when ancient drangous tech like this is permitted to be imported here.
also a tubeless is so much easier to repair on the side of the road with a plug kit.
so can some one explain what the benefit of tubed tires,... is in 2022,.....i cant see any.
You make some very solid arguments for tubeless tyres. I think what's happening here with the Transalp is cost cutting. These spoked wheels are obviously more cost effective, and I reckon Honda's target price is around $16-$17K AUD for the Transalp here in Oz. Also, the thinking probably is that they have the Africa Twin if people want features like tubeless spoked wheels. Although the base model AT looks like it also has tubed tyres.
@@BikesILike I just think with out rim locks they should be banned.
I have never had a bike with rim locks even my ty 250 trials bike hade none, so I dont think they are very common.
to ban the sale of bikes without abs on both ends and let tubed rims be sold is worse than funny.
just shows' how down trodden we are by our peer groups interaction with government.
I spent many tens of hours interacting with Honda Australia, to get c125 sold here through emails.
along with others, and due to Hondas total lack of advertising any product, including them, sales would not reach stellar levels.
so hey presto, they decide not to continue importing them due to not meeting the dual abs requirement.
in my 55 years of riding, I have never seen the cycle market is so poor a shape, and so poorly served in bike choice.
lack of advertising will be the death of Honda Australia and they richly deserve that fate.
i will buy one..yamaha pissed me off.i was waiting for 18 months to get my hands on a t7 in America..now,honda will get my money!
When my 2000 Transalp finally breaks down in a decade or two, this bike will be affordable for this frugal middle aged Dutchie, on the second hand market.
Was signed: Laughing all the way to the bank😜
"Frugal middle aged Dutchie... 😁
I'm of Dutch descent too ;)
Great review, thank you. Well since I can't seem to locate T7 to save my life here in SW Florida, I'm hoping Honda has their shit together and can produce and supply bikes we want , unlike Yamaha... 😐
Thank you! I really hope supply lines improve for you guys in the US soon.
LOL, "long distance on road touring comfort" but no cruise control?!!
They should have had a simple analogue Speedos and rev counter and then it will be. Cheap, basic, simple and strong. Many bikers like the royal Enfield continental and even the cb500x for that.
Personally, I would like to listen to a well done comparison to the new Suzuki 800
It's coming!
The suzuki is gonna win
@@falchiherve2024 we shall have to wait&see
This Trans Alp is aimed only for the European market just as the NT1100 market is for the European market. The US wants bikes to go to starbutts.
Sounds like my 2014 mutistrada will out perform this bike in all areas, so why would i want one?
Looksa very interesting bike. From the marketing material it is clearly designed as a touring all rounder, not a hard core Tenere competitor. So it is not the bike to do the Canning Stock Route. In all honesty a DRZ 400 makes a better platform for hard core remote off road touring. Even a Tenere is a heavy bike for that kind of riding. This is really the Toyota Kluger of the motorbike world. Not the Jeep Wrangler Rubicon.
The great thing about consumerism is you can pick the product that best suits your needs. All engineering demands a series of compromises. Honda have made a bike geared towards touring, with the ability to do dirt road (not single track) riding as well. It is a bike that would suit my needs, as at my age, I am not interested in doing the Canning or the Simpson. If I did want to do those rides, the DRZ400 is what I’d choose. It would be a pretty slow ride getting to those tracks though.
Honda need to take a look at Aprilia’s Touareg…it’s got tubeless tyres….
I see a little Versys 300 in there
Actually, yes!
It needs tubeless spoked wheels.
Seems like good usable bike with more of the original intent and usability of the Africa Twin than the new Africa Twin which has become a bit of an over-tech bloater.
Hope they bring it to the US, seems like a solid all around bike!
Me too! Hopefully things can start getting back to normal soon and you guys start getting bikes again.
I'm not sure that going over marketing material from Honda really provides any insight into the bike. Honda has obviously put together slick press material aimed at the hot adventure market, but it's mostly a bunch of buzz words without any real world information. The Transalp might be a great bike, and I hope it is, but I'm really looking forward to getting beyond the sales hype.
Thank you for this very good review 👍🏼👍🏼
With no cruise control, long distance touring is a non sequitur
Honda certainly knows how to chat-up the buying public. Quite a long bike, nearly as long as, say, the Triumph Thunderbird. Thanks for that spec.
I too hope the written words are not just someone getting carried away. You're welcome Guy! ;)
In 2023 Transalp will come to Europe only, I am afraid !
Sorry guys !
Really? Is that true?
@@BikesILike Yes, that is planned !
great review mate!!
Thanks Craig!
USA versions do not get iPhone connections of any kind. I’ll mount my iPhone on the bike.
Excellent video. Thank you. The dealers in NZ say the Transalps aren't arriving till June, so that might mean September or later! When are they due to hit the ground in Oz? Cheers.
They're expected to arrive in Australia in the second half of 2023. That's the only info I have at the moment.
@Bikes I Like sounds about right. Hopefully hit NZ & Oz the same time although a little slow for my liking. 2023 should be January! 😁
@@rayurlich For sure!
Nice bike but too much electronics I won't use. I will probably choose the vstrom 800 with more suspension travel, stock quick shifter and a comfortable seat. The Honda is more a better looking bike though.
Hi BIL- Would you superimpose the new Royal Enfield cruiser over the HD 883? and compare the horsetorques and price? Thx.
I'll look into it Skip. ;)
Wait, are you saying there will be no cruise control available.. ever?
Yep no sign of it I'm afraid Dukie. Big oversight in my opinion.
It really needs cruise control and Tubeless tires......... For those two reasons I'd pass and look closer at the Triumph Tiger Rally 900......
Yep. Not having cruise control on a bike that is designed to tour is a big mistake in my opinion.
Does it have a cell phone charger?
Give it time will awesome bike for sure
In a country like Australia we need cruise control.
I gonna go on the v strom 800 so much better looking....shifter ...78NM...
It s gonna be the winner
Tube tires and over 420lbs is no go for me. Just another flop. cb500x is still better deal in my view. Little underpowered for US roads but good enough to put on hitch carrier of truck to haul on vacation or tour 2000 miles.
Well presented, very informative, user friendly 😊
Thank you!
In short: We made a bike that offers slight offroad ability with great on road, long haul ability. We could have most definitely made it better but then that would overshadow our Africa Twin.... And while we're all about competitiveness with the likes of Yamaha and KTM, We can't allow a $10k bike to outshine our flagship bike... Sorry not sorry. 🙃
Thanks for your review. Cruise must be an option, surely. I don't know how Honda defines "tourer". Two-up on the 750 Trans Alp seems optimistic.
I hope so but can find no mention of it anywhere. I'm waiting patiently for rider reviews to see if all the claims add up to the written word.
Very competitively priced here in the UK £6999
Here in Germany it starts with €10.500... Nothing on board, even no Cruise Control. Not good.😮 TriColor Paint + €400.
Interesting. By my calculations after doing currency conversion and slapping on an Aussie tax/markup that would put the price around $15/$16K AUD. That seems reasonable.
Hmm. It appears when it comes to motorcycles, German's get treated the same as Australians. That's surprising.
Uk price will closer to £9500
@@monman8183 my mistake I quoted the price for the new Hornet
Στην Ελλάδα πότε θα έρθει ??
Tube tyres are a dealbreaker for me.
Being connected to my telephone comes in last place by importance. Why is so much emphasis placed on something so unimportant? I want my bike to run good and go on pavement, gravel and some trails while leaving me feel confident that it can get me there and back.
Where’s the fuel located, high on the bike ie T7 , or air filter high, fuel low?
My understanding is that the fuel tank is located in the usual position, above the engine. Don't have any info on the air filter yet but these patent drawings might help shed some light... www.cycleworld.com/story/motorcycle-news/honda-transalp-750-patent-details/
Thanks mate👍
@@ozziejim8472 Thanks Jim!
It’s disappointing this bike doesn’t look like the prototype
No cruise control???!!! Oh dear!!!
How is that even possible in this day and age??!!
Tks. much.
Repitition of commercial info?
People wanted an Africa Twin 750….not a CB750x with 80/20 street/ dirt tires with an ADV class slapped on it for the “dirt road” only driving crowd. FAIL
DCT?
No word on DCT unfortunately.
Nice, but...
My BMW F750GS is a better bike, with better features, across the board.
Way too much smart-tech featured in a lot of these new bikes ...don't want it, don't need it! But the Transalp is sharp!!
Fuel tank too small
What sort of fuel range would you like to see?
A long distance cruiser without the option of cruise control. Somebody should be fired.
It is disappointing Kirstein.
Tubed rims are a deal breaker for me, simply unacceptable on this kind of bike. Once they fix that it could be an interesting motorcycle.
Considered 360 degree way lol
A very ignorable and underwhelming bike
This is a world wide motorcycle. Android is far more used world wide than ios.
That is the answer.
Spec sheet warriors have been ragging all over this bike with click bait hate.
I bet when the aftermarket gets hold of it, it will outsell both CB500X and CRF1100L and be more capable offroad than the former, and on par with the later.
Its lighter than the AT and therefore can make do with less travel. Wingers "theres no bolt on subframe " boo hoo the CRF1000L hasn't got one either, and no one cared then.
Its become cool to cry online about supposed short comings of a bike that no ones even ridden yet. Hilarious.
No cruise? It will be built in Thailand I think so it will be to a price point like the CB500X and will probably come in at under AUD$16000, leaving plenty of room for suspension upgrade and a propper framed bash plate that someone like rally raid will bring to market like the 500x setup.
After that and a mc cruise control addition if needed, it will be a great RTW machine.