I'm not a "Corvette Guy", but the new C7 is without a doubt the best sports car bargain in the world. Anyone who thinks otherwise is either a hater, or in complete denial.
Why Europeans insist on just hating on American cars like the Vette is getting old. No matter how good it is, they'll claim another European car is better out of bias. And the cars they compare the Vette to are sometimes 2-3 times more expensive. Just a wee bit unfair? Nah. And why is the Vette's interior not nearly as good as an F-Type or a 911?! The 911's interior is drab and boring, the F-Type consistently has knocks against it for its flimsy interior. But while reviewing an American car those same interiors are then praised. Bias? Nah.
I come from the same American car haters club but ... I really disagree with this review. This is the first modern Corvette I actually want! It's an excellent car! Not just for the price but excellent car full-stop!!
It's not a cheap car in Europe. It's around £60,000 in the UK ($96,000), and for that money it just isn't good enough. At $35,000 to $40,000 in the US it brilliant. At Near;y $96,000 here it isn't. So it's not "haters", it's not anti American, it's just too bloody expensive over here.
The worst was when Top Gear compared a Corvette C5 to a Ferrari 575, and a Camaro Z28 to an AMG Mercedes. Of COURSE the American ones aren't as good--but they're half the price!
"Corvette doesn't really feel like a sports car" What? I gotta admit, even as an American, I am not a fanboy of Corvette (Porsche is more my type) however, it just feels like American cars just can't catch a break. I feel like you have to look at the Corvette in context in order to truly appreciate it. It gives you 911 performance for almost half the money. In that light, I can't see how you cant look at a c7 and not see it as one of the best SPORTS cars on sale today.
^What that guy said. It doesn't "feel like sports car" in eco or comfort mode, which, if anything, is an attribute to the people who developed the car....
That's the best looking Corvette they have made in a long, long time - and it looks like it has the performance to back that up. I'd still rather take a 911, but hats of to the guys from Kentucky.
so in other words, you like to spend more (way more) and get less. if you really prefer a VW 911 over a Corvette, you are probably not the sportscar purist with the skills to handle something that actually needs to be driven, as opposed to do all the driving through filters for the "driver", or rather the passenger/occupant. greets from germany.
CHUUMPASS Get more in which way? 911 has a far better interior, far better quality, its more comfortable, quieter, nicer to drive, and will last longer. And give me a break about the Corvette being a purist car that takes skill to handle...thats the 911 description.
Jethro mentions the keyword in there once....CAYMAN. Thats what it should be compared against, not 911s and F type Jags. It must be compared to similar priced cars, and the cayman is one of them. What would you rather own, a poor mans 911 albeit with better dynamics, or this big red panty dropper with a thumping V8? I know what i'd choose!
Sad part is the corvette (z51) can out run some 911's and it outruns the f type and aston martins. It takes out cars worth 1/3 more while the new zo6 will out run cars twice its price range.
I don't know. I think the Camaro does a pretty good job on its own taking on the Cayman. Look at the 1LE vs Cayman S. (Granted I'm talking mainly about performance, the Cayman obviously has a nicer interior, but for me I'd rather save the $25k and have a faster car to boot).
Europeans seem to review the Corvette and complain that its different than the 911. The gear box isnt the same as the Porsche im used to driving and suddenly thats a negative. The C7 is an awesome machine and its is way more than just a bang for the buck proposal, this thing can dominate cars that cost twice as much! It has beautiful styling and the numbers dont lie. When the Z06 comes out its just gonna be incredible.
I used to bash the corvette up and down for years as being a unrefined disaster. Giant beast of an engine in a car that couldn't go around a corner if its life depended on it. But now....... wow. It's really come along. Corvette's are not just worth consideration, they're a worthy option. Not to mention the fact that it looks absolutely stunning. As far as bang for your buck, I don't think you can go wrong. If worrying about the price tag is of no concern to you, than certainly you probably will find better cars but comparing a 250-500 thousand dollar super car to a 90-110 thousand dollar super car is kind of unfair.
Corvettes have been able to take corners well since the C5 generation. They've never been up there with supercars in terms of handling, but they're not supercars. They've come a long way since the C4 generation and previous Corvettes.
Yeah, but that really wasn't a head-to-head comparison. They were gauging the C7 against the R8, 911 and F-Type convertible in specific areas where these cars excel. I want to see both road and track testing with scientific data of the F-Type vs. C7 Stingray!
Never did I claim I've driven either. Just look at them... front-engined, V-8 powered, rear wheel drive, GT cars with similar specs. Then consider the history of the E-Type (the last decent car Jag has made according to Jeremy Clarkson) vs. the C2 Stingray. Is it your extreme nationalism that Tata will come out on top?
I'd be fun to conduct I'm sure, but really there's no comparison to be made here. I mean honestly, no one, I repeat, no one, is cross shopping these two. Corvettes are bought by balding, rounding, mid-life crisis sufferers who will keep their newly purchased Vette squeaky clean and concealed in the garage. They'll take it out once every six months to take it to the club meeting where they all gather around and look at each other's Vette's and talk about how fast their Vette's are, how much better they are than the 911, and then they'll drive home and back into the garage till next time. It's good news for us really, it just means the next generation of really clean, low mileage sports cars has just gotten a whole lot more capable, but let's be honest these cars aren't going to be driven in anger till their first owners become too arthritic to climb aboard any more. The F-type on the other hand, that's a fashion accessory, not a sports car. And I'm not insulting its credentials because apparently it's an epic fun drive. But in reality, it could have a C4 Corvette's interior, handle like a C3, and have the C1's Blue Flame six cylinder for motivation and it just wouldn't matter. The F-type is gorgeous, painfully pretty, and that's all it really needs to be. The E-type was a flawed car; the Moss gearbox was apparently a massive pain in the ass, they slightly fibbed the car's then world leading top speed, and they had to use lead shot in the roof to keep it from flapping at speed. But that didn't matter, because it was just breathtakingly beautiful. The Corvette is a great sports car, for the first time in decades it's no longer the cheap alternative. But the F-type, is a work of art
I could have taken the time to listen to the whole thing. It wasn't a horrible review and the fact the car was on winter tires might explain some of it. That being said the Vette is an amazing car for the money. Hands down best bang for the buck. Regarding fair reviews over seas... Almost never happens... Regarding an American car or any car for that matter getting judged fairly in the States I disagree. I've seen the latest Mustang GT500 and all of its power get absolutely shredded in the US. A car is judged by its merit here. Overseas it's pretty common to see the Vette get ripped. Some points are accurate but most are completely biased.
I generally find that most people screaming "BIAS!!!!" are really just letting their own bias get in the way of reasoning. So maybe I am doing the same thing, but I do agree that a lot of European reviews of American cars (Corvette in particular) seem overly harsh. This one wasn't too bad, but testing anything built for performance in the cold an wet, let alone on winter tires is not really going to give a true impression. And also I'm not exactly sure what he was getting with the brakes. I've never heard anyone else say the same. Perhaps his problem was ABS kicking in sometimes and not others?
In my opinion international cars are judged for what they are in the States. I believe there is a genuine bias when it comes to the Vette in Europe. I'm a fan of most cars. I'm passionate predominately with Japanese cars so there is no bias on my part. I call it like I see it. The Vette is and has been the best bang for any form of currency. There's nothing on the market that can compete with it for the money and then some. And when you break it look at the difference in cost to repair it. There's not a European car that can compare and when the ZO6 comes out You'll be hard pressed to want to spend 10 to 100s of thousands more to get outperformed by the ZO6. Nissan is going to have to go back to the drawing board for the GTR when that car hits the streets.
Im a chevy guy and i have to say great vid. Its nice to hear a non amarican opinion. You weren't kinding about that road holy crap. I wouldnt have the balls to go that fast on it.
Our British roads can be very hard to drive fast on. Ive always hated the US cars but i have to admit i adore this stingray. Im gonna start drinking bud and listening to rock and roll
It's perfect! These European guy's love to hate on the corvette and I've seen the Same thing in other European reviews on the corvette stingray he's really trying to criticize it and point out what's wrong with it but that's the thing there's nothing wrong with it. It's fast fun good looking economical. and a great value and that small block Chevy is bulletproof what more could you want.
I actually test drove the last model of one of these when deciding weather to get a carrera 2s, it drove great and if it were just a track car it probably wouldve taken my money. but to be honest its unfair to compare it to a 911. its just not in the same league really in terms of transmission or build quality or just feeling of solidity. and the price is indicative of this. not to mention you have to realise in europe these cars look really very vulgar and in the end i felt very embarrassed to be driving it. also they are very different target markets. if you ever get the chance to test drive a 911 you should really try it you wil see what we are all on about
felix pinto Is the C7 in the same price range as the 911 in europe? In the US its not and for all its great evolution from the C6 its not up there in terms of quality and overall ride control. Its a great great looking $60k USD car that punches above its weight in performance but I wouldnt put it in that higher range. Though it is getting there..
Chris Harris said the F-Type's interior felt cheap. They both have that passenger grab handle too. I don't think they are that far apart. Only thing wrong with the Vette is that damn wheel gap
F-type might feel cheaper than expected for a JAGUAR, but Corvette is certainly not even near it. As that guy from the US in the review said, Corvette might be a 10/10 in terms of interior quality for american standards, but it's a 7/10 for european standards. 911 feels about 3 times as expensive inside.
derbigpr500 What!? Jaguar's interior quality has been absolute shit for quite a while. The F-Type is a step forward. Ford pretty much ruined the company.
This car has been reviewed up and down as amazing, best bang for the buck, something the competition should be concerned about, so much better then the C6, etc... Leave it to this guy to come up with something negative... Maybe EVERYONE else is wrong... I don't think so. I'll just consider the source. I stopped watching midway through the video. The Europeans very rarely give the Vette an unbiased review.
What are you talking about. I heard alot more positive than negative. Especially in the first half of the video. He said it was a great leap forward from the C6, had a sharper and more powerful engine, and an excellent supple chassis. Loved that it had a manual still, good steering, great noise, thought it was great value . Etc. etc... The only thing he had to knock about it was that it lacked a bit of precision in the body control for his taste. That's constructive criticism, and I think he's right. As in the videos I've seen of the C7, I've seen the undulations and wiggles over bumps and during braking.
Can we all take a moment to appreciate that the guy running this test has gotten a significant bump in promotion from evo to the grandaddy of them all,Top Gear 🇺🇸?
GM seems to be using the same steering wheel/column on multiple vehicles now, on the ELR for regen braking, and on the 'Vette for rev matching for the manual box or gear selection in the auto. I have a feeling we'll see the paddles on all future cars from them for one thing or another. I had one of their mid-80s Pontiacs with a single stalk for brights, wipers, and turn signals that flipped the wipers every time you hit the blinker.
yea i like that camera angle as well! i think the don't use it on 'public' roads as it shows the speedometer, note at 3:32 how the camera angle changed at 59MPH
Of course we are now reading trash from all the euro fans below, I really mean trash. Look at the comparo of the C7 vs 911 carrera S and other than a hair quicker in acceleration by the 911 the Vette won handily in the slalom, braking, skid pad etc...Considering the C7 is $60 - 70 K vs the 911 at $140K clearly the C7 is king. For minimal $ I am installing a 2.3 TVS to liquidate just about anything, I am buying a C7, amazing machine for the money.
Problem is when the Corvette is brought to Europe the price is comparable to a 911. This ultimately means it gets compared to them. While a 911 is expensive for you guys because of import costs...It's the other way here. The Vette catches up due to the shipping and taxes it gets hit with. The standard C7 with no options in the UK is $103,000 equivalent. Add your options to it and it's pushing $120,000. Can you see the reason it's getting compared now? Vette starts at (£65,000) a Porsche 911 starts at £73,000. That is heavily into Porsche territory money wise over here. It's also worse on fuel, got to also keep in mind we are paying $8 a gallon so this does factor in still even at these prices. You can have a Porsche 911 with lets be honest better German build quality and a more efficient engine for the same money.
yonumpty If you noticed, the Porsche goes for pretty much the same price here as in Europe, the import cost on cars in the US is literally nothing. The Vette is still not in Porsche territory for price range because the price difference between the vette and porsche itself is far. The Corvette is still cheaper in Europe. And you are wrong on fuel economy, the Vette gets 29 mpg on the hwy while the porsche gets 26-27 hwy on the base model. I find it funny how the Vette somehow pulls this off from a V8 460 HP Engine. Not to mention the Corvette has a much nicer sound. Lets be honest, the build quality is the same, seats are both made by the same company, both cars hand stitched leather using Nappa and Alcantara leather while the 911 is using just Alcantara, (Both honestly feel the same and are both satisfying to touch). Both are on an aluminum reinforced frame, both have aluminum buttons inside the car oh and both cars have plastic in it and pretty much the same amount. Aside from that, the Corvette is a much better daily driver and just a much more practical vehicle, more cargo space by a landfall. On almost every website, the Corvette Stingray is ranked the number 1 car while Porsche is usually 2nd or 3rd but mostly 2nd.
I am going to quote the figures from the UK Chevrolet website and the UK Porsche site. Which have figures more suitable for use here. (Different types of roads, different larger gallon as well so figures can be higher) 911 Carrera S going to try and level the results, by comparing power rather than price. Quoting for Manual with PDK in brackets. Extra Urban 32.2 mpg (PDK 35.1 mpg) Urban 17.7 mpg (PDK 19.4 mpg) Combined 29.7 mpg (PDK 32.5 mpg) These are on the Porsche website, will have to convert l/100km to mpg for some reason they only quote mpg on the combined figure. For the Corvette, which doesn't list manual vs auto. Extra Urban 36.2 mpg Urban 14.7 mpg Combined 23.5mpg So while yes it does get better highway (extra urban), fact is that on a more typical driving style (combined) it is lower on the vette. Around town it's lower as well. If you live on the high way fair enough. Now comparing the Carrera (non S) to the Vette the 0-60 time is 0.2s different on the PDK. While the Porsche starts at £75,897, the Vette starts at £61,520. For conversion £1 is equivalent to around $1.66 American. Which is $102123 (It's literally double in price coming to the UK). The thing the 911 is it comes in a lower tax band based on CO2 emissions. Meaning it's first year tax is £485. While the Vette you can add on £1090. Then the yearly rate after that is £500 for the Vette and £265 for the Porsche. Just made two cars up a 911 and a Vette, Problem is the 911 has a lot more on the options list. So I basically came up with a similar spec between them. Worked out at £82,272 for the 911, and the vette was £72,275. Add on tax £82,537 for the 911 and £73,365. So the difference between them in European pricing terms is not a lot. £9k is very little at this kind of market. To put it into value terms. A base model Fiesta starts at £14k. While materials can be similar, build quality is more than just that. Plastics are generally of a poorer quality in American cars too. It's getting better, but still no there yet. It's things like panel gaps, how everything is secured together etc. It's a lot more than just, oh it has leather it's the same. Add in that one comes in right hand drive the other left hand drive. It gets easier to make the decision in favour of the Porsche. I am sure if you guys were having to pay $121,785 for a Vette. You would also start looking towards Porsches too. The prices here are just ridiculous. Which is why so few sell, they also shot themselves in the foot by making it only LHD in the UK.
***** No, whats important is everything about the car: i.g: Build quality, performance, reliability, fuel economy, the way the car feels, do you fit in it, how practical it is. "Corvettes (all of them) are shockingly bad" Am sir, wtf? I guess you ignored the C1, C2, C3, Corvette, and C7. I can admit the C4, C5 and C6 interiors were a joke, however that is no longer the case. I have been in both cars and driven a 2013 Porsche 911 (Sadly still never driven the vette yet), and to that I tried finding everything wrong with both interiors, and you would be surprised that I tell you this, both cars have the same amount of plastic inside of them, however, they are both soft touch plated plastic, the Corvette has it around the cup holders area which in my opinion is a good area to put plastic at for multiple reasons while the porsche had it around the dash at least from what I felt, however you are wrong on loose panels, the C7 has literally none, everything is tight and held in place just like the porsche. Even the Paddle Shifter (Rev Matching paddles) both felt the same and were both held in place the same. Thin leather, well I have no idea how to tell the difference but I have felt both cars like I said and both cars honestly just feel the same other than the fact that the Corvette has Nappa and Alcantara while the 911 just has alcantara, however, sitting in the C7 was a lot more comfortable (because I am a tallish guy) and there was a lot more leg space in the Corvette which just added to the overall satisfactory. To be honest, both cars just feel the same, both have it's plastic, however the Stingray picked a better spot to have soft touch plastic over the 911. So their you go, I hope you learned something, sitting in both cars feels the same, unless you were to tear each car apart, you will never see the difference if there even is any. And you are wrong once again wow, Corvettes seriously have always been competing against Euro cars and winning at least in performance, but the new C7 is winning in nearly every category thanks to it's new interior and technology advancements, all that and still a 53k car.
yonumpty I nearly only drive on the Highway's, but I am pretty sure if I had one of these cars that would change since I would go for joy rides lol. So Porsche wins city, Corvettes wins HWY, however, you also forgot that when they do city, they test city mpg under touring mode and not the eco mode that car has or else it would be false advertising so under eco mode that vette should do a little better in the city but not by much. I wish they had statistic for each mode of the car. I understand the price difference, but I actually was talking about something else but never mind because it doesn't make a difference for you but only me and my Country because import tax is literally nothing here. If you been in the Corvette and 911, the spots of which there are plastic in both are pretty much in the same spot but the Porsche also has a little on the dash (I thought it was aluminum but it wasn't) The Vette has it around the cup holders area but you would be shocked to know that feeling both their was no difference, they were both soft touch plastic. So the difference between the plastics in the car is 1 to 1. I know the leather is different, however both cars just felt the same despite the Corvette having two types of leather in it, so I have no idea where the actual Alcantara and Nappa leather parts are located unless it was the seats. Both cars are spot on for panel gaps or (Loose panels if that's what you mean) Everything in both cars feel well solid and in place, nothing loose, nothing squeaks, both felt the same. I will admit the Porsche has that advantage which makes me wonder why GM has yet to put right hand on it, but right hand only effects like, 4 European Countries I believe. If the Corvette was the same exact price as the Porsche, there would simply be more in the Corvette, but if there wasn't, then... erm. I have no clue, you see I don't exactly like the entire exterior of the Porsche, from some angles it does not give me that sports car look while the Corvette has the meaner sports car stance which looks more unique, here is my example: www.gtspirit.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/Bubba-Watson-Corvette-Stingray-600x450.jpg images.thecarconnection.com/lrg/2014-porsche-911-50th-anniversary-edition_100429365_l.jpg I just like that meaner stance of the vette and the lines on it, however, I do like the interior color option trims on the Corvette better especially the read and black (which also looks good on the Porsche, but I do like the Porsche's interior door styling a lot more, but I dislike how that center dash elevates to the dash (it reminds me of a prius). Also I am American so I need cup holders lol. (For In N Out, not MD). JK, but I commute a lot and like to have a drink for my long drives, especially in the heat.
Can't be a legitimate British auto journalist without "finding" random stuff that are wrong with a Corvette, and thinking the _insert random British car_ is better than it...
Evo gave the C7 Vette 4.5 stars out of 5 in the magazine. It is a proper car. With Z51 and magnetic dampers, this car sell for about the equivalent of 35K Sterling in Canada and the US. It is an amazing car for the money and fantastic looking in the real world.
It was a manual gear transmission, my mistake, but still the new Z06 will rectify those problems. It's an awesome automobile made for the purpose of takin on the 911.
I'm not a big fan of american cars tbh, but this Corvette and the Ford GT are masterpieces, and this corvette in particular, is the car i would buy if i could buy any car.
Love the Corvette, and also love European cars, especially Porsche. One difference between the Corvette and those more expensive cars, though, is the fact that you can drive the absolute stink out of it, take it to the track, etc., and not worry about major breakdowns and repairs soaring in the thousands of dollars. It's not a status symbol, but a real driver's car that people aren't afraid of flogging for fear of breaking something and having huge repair bills. It is what it is, one hell of a bargain and a lot of fun to actually drive :)
The camera "looking out" the windscreen and also showing the interior should be shown MUCH MORE than the ~1.7 seconds in this video, instead of showing him for a net 3 minutes... come on.
despite this being a hodge-podge of design ideas (ferrari/GT-R, etc...), this is finally starting to look like a world-class sports car. I say "starting" because it's not quite there yet...BUT this is a quantum leap better than the outgoing model by far. And that interior is finally starting to look the part too. Although those red accents are pretty funky, especially in the middle where the right accent doesn't really flow into the dash well. But I suppose this is the best GM can do, and it seems they found a better team for this project.
Per Jethro (EVO review article) The brake pedal is inconsistent and by the end of a day of filming, the stoppers were howling in protest (although other mags had used and abused this car before us). In combination these things start to make the Stingray feel a bit heavier than it really is (1496kg). His criticism of brake feel is due USED AND ABUSE by previous magazine car reviewers, the other about bottom out is justifiable, otherwise he gave a 4 1/2 out of 5 stars
ivanovsd Doesn't need to be driven outside of the US. Since the US is where the most money is, and the best of pretty much everything, this is the only place you really need to be successful! Not driven outside of the US and yet wildly successful. If the exotics can't sell cars here in the US, they cannot survive. In short......you need us, we DON'T need you. Number one rule of sales of any sort......"go where the money is"! Learn a lesson son!!
Aside from all the performance comments about the C7, the car is also much more reliable and a lot less maintenance than both the Porsche and Jaguar. I love Porsche, probably more so than Chevy's Corvette, but the Corvette is a proper car for the normal person looking for great performance, luxury, and reliability (for a supercar). I don't really care about Jaguar cause, half the time the car will probably be in the shop because we all know UK cars break down almost every other drive haha.
Lol well jaguar are pretty high quality cars compared to Audi and BMW's which are always in the shop. And I own a 96 Vette btw and gotta admit it's a really reliable car for its age
EdwardDG2 Jaguars are very high quality cars, they just aren't reliable lol. My neighbor owns 3 of them, 2007 XK, a newer 2013 XE, and a 2001 XJR all of them have/had electronic problems and almost 1 of the 2 were either in the shop or not being used for some mechanical problem. Corvettes are tough as nails so long as you don't drive them off a cliff or treat them like trash haha.
+Irrozan - LOL - you're commenting on the F-Type's reliability by using other models issues. The F-Type is under a new team of engineers, and sorry to break it to you: this isn't the late 90's.
bongmistt That's strange, my neighbor sold his F-Type a few months back because it had a lot of problems. Beautiful sounding car, sold it for a Porsche 911 GT3 RS. Maybe he had a bad apple I don't really know, but if they are more reliable, I'll take a Jaguar XFS ;)
It's that song again! Just that little clip of distorted feedback at the start. XCAR use it in their outros too. But what is it? I really want to find out. Sounds like it could be Aphex Twin, or something like it maybe.
Dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude....I have been looking for this song name for like 3 weeks now with no luck. I'm REALLY hoping that an EVO writer or someone will tell us because I've gotten 0 responses from XCAR.
I'm european and no matter if the awesome new c7 corvette's price is near to porsche's which is a fantastic sport car nobody denies that :-) i would still buy the c7 because i really like this awesome car i've watched tons of review videos to get to know as possible as more things about this car and really loved it :-) I know it's not the best but i don't care i just LOVE IT :-)
Manual gearbox with paddle shifts? And I love how Americans can say a car with 6.2L V8 is an everyday car. I really do envy that. In my country, a litre of petrol is 3 $.
I love how foreign journalists are not beholden to corporate America and can give an honest assessment of the pro's and con's. Well done Evo. That being said I'd still take one over any other sports car under $100K.
Good review, its nice seeing someone be proper honest about the car and not afraid to upset the corvette fanboys who can't take any criticism about the car. Its still a great car and a massive improvement on the previous model but no car is 100% perfect!
I don't think this was an HONEST review. To me, he didn't say enough positive things about the C7, that would account for the reason why he had a smile on his face the entire time he was driving the car.
I do not understand the comments on this at all. Jethro didn't 'hate' on the car or give a bias review. He did exactly what a reviewer is supposed to do, gave the good points and bad points so a consumer can make a decision (with a bias on what works in Britain as the car is being officially imported here for the first time). In America you can talk about how cheap this is compared to an F-Type or 911 but here a Corvette costs £65k or $110k, the same as a V6S F-Type and not a huge amount less than a 911 Carrera.
the tester really had a hard time finding anything to badmouth the Corvette, (and that's exactly how you know what a brilliant and ultra capable machine the Corvette really is!) but then again, being a brit, he still managed to pull something out his arse to do so. even if it is the utmost absurdity.
Wow the interior looks thousand time better than the C6 and oh so glorious engine note. I wonder if the pedal feel is due in part to this being a press car where multi users driving styles has taken its toll. Also knew he couldn't resist not drifting it just once.
Comparing a Z51 C7 to a 911 or an F Type seems ridiculous to me. Both are at least 20k more in the UK. Both are almost double the price here in the US. Compare it to a base Cayman (good luck finding one of those) and you may have something. It reminds me of those old videos comparing a Z06 to a GT2, pointless. Also, I'll wait for a real test.
It will be called a Z06. The Z07 performance package will be the Stage 3 track option. This Z06 should put all on notice. A ZR1 maybe will the fray also. Don't be surprised to see 1 in two more years.
We're going to get the Z06 when it comes out, and it's gonna be an outstanding car. I don't care what anybody says, the European reviewers are still biased against American cars just because they don't sell well there. However, if you listen to the types of complaints, it's the same sort of caliber of thing you hear from any Porsche or Ferrari. Opinions. This car may not be as fast as a Ferrari, but I think it's just as fun, and I've driven it a few times so this is my opinion.
Thanks for Finally taking it on. It´s a damn good barging and a great looking and sounding car and due to this review also very balanced and approachable. So what is the bad side - Well even that this car deserves proper recognition we will still have to bear with the nationalistic pride from one side of the Atlantic and the arrogance from the Other. For me I´m all for European cars but I am truly happy that the Corvette has been improved by such a large margin - It´s a damn great sports car and if I was in the US I would not hesitate to take it. But if I had the extra money, yes I would go default for the F-Type or a 911 regardless of the performance numbers. I am quite sure that Z06 version will send some shakes into the established lines of European equivalents for performance, but will that be enough to really change what people with enough money on the account will buy - I´m sorry but I think it will not really or if then only very marginally. Though buyers who would consider a GT-might change their mind and consider the C7 since the price difference is now is substantial. Does anybody has a suggestion/guess to what a full Spec C7 Z06 will cost approx. ?. Thanks for the review ;)
Its a shame that the Vette and Camaro won't be available in RHD. I really like the look of both and I am sure they would actually sell well in UK. Come on follow fords lead and put the steering wheel on the other side GM !! On a side note I don't get all the hate about car brands, my last car was 911 and my current car is a GTR, each of these cars along with the Vette, Camaro and Mustang all have their own unique plus points and you buy them for different reasons, no matter which one is your favourite at the end of the day its all about loving cars.
The grin on his face says it all. Awesome car. Could tell he was struggling to keep that BEAST of American muscle from killing him. Beware only those who can handle this Monster need apply.
im not a big chev fan i have blue blood ! must say thou this car looks to be properly refined , top notch review man very engrossing, enjoyed that chers,
Ok. theres validity to both systems. If not F1 cars would still have manual shifting. That said IMO a manual makes the driver a direct part of the cars operation, and as thus makes the driver thoroughly part of the experience. Paddles are little more than oldschool automatics with shift levers. by design your not nearly as connected to the experience. the Reason why comapanies have made the switch to paddles is because it reduces cost in warranteed transmitions and clutch damage. Also the in increase in gears from 6 to 7 or soon to come 8 is not desired in terms of fatigue in manual form. lastly theres just tons of lame-drivers that prefer automatics.and thus paddles.
Just as a last sobering comment to the inaccurate spewage below in regards to the build quality of the C7 corvette, absolute rubbish, there are no lose body panels or interior trim pieces at all, the car is solid, well put together and looks amazing. Certainly like all cars there is the odd unit that may have a defect or two, part of mass production that all brands share, can be remedied and is understood given that we get to drive and enjoy this kind of performance for a great price..give me the competitive unit, those that want to pay more for status, be my guest, great part is not only does the C7 turn in great numbers but it looks and handles the part...
He keeps saying it does not have the bite that the F-Type has, well no shit Scherlock, the F-type has 100 more horses, which are produced by it's super charger, it should have more byte, and the F-Type is also $40 grand more than the Corvette. Nothing in it's price point can compete with the new Stingray.
Reading a lot of these comments shows how uneducated people are about certain cars. Goes to also show how biased they are and just vomit out what they've heard/read in such publications as Top Gear, EVO etc etc. While I give props to EVO for having some of the best photography and great story write ups (Still love the one about falcon and trying to set the ring record with a Zonda). But they always talk more and more about how a car feels this and that at your finger tips and the butt. Which is great and all but when it comes to cold hard numbers MT/CD has them beat. Since the C5 generation the Corvette has been a world beater when it comes to actually being driven on track. The car has been brought down by its awful use of poor materiel when it comes to the body/interior. However the chassis and drive train of the C5 and present Corvette has always been world class. So do yourself a favor and actually do some research before spouting off bull like "Its american muscle, what do you expect," "it can't turn worth ...." etc etc BTW the Corvette isn't an American Muscle car, it's an American Sports Car.
Trust me if there were people would complain about not being able to skip 5th and 6th. You can't please everyone, and frankly I don't see how this would be harder than going from 2nd to 3rd and not ending up in 5th in virtually every manual car in the last 20 years.
Adam S Because if you don't use any force the stick will center underneath 3rd and then just push up no need to judge how far to push but rather when to push. However since there are 7 gears you need to judge how far to push when shifting and depending on the feel of the gearbox that can be anything from a non-issue to a headache that you get used to. It's still not that big of a deal though.
If you just push up at a slightly right angle it will always shift into the next odd gear. Works with every manual I have ever driven...I've never gone up then over then up. I tried this on a C7 transmission (car was off) and it seemed fine. The only shift that would be difficult is if you wanted to go from 2nd (after a romp) to 5th.
Well guys, please do not smash me for this. I'm from Brazil and that means that all cars are absolutely expensive here. And I mean 500k for a F458 and almost 200k for a C7 corvette. I manage to work hard and be blessed with the means to have a lot of cars. So I currently have a 2013 F458 Spyder, a 2014 911 GT3, an 2012 880hp AMS GTR, and I'm looking to buy a new C7 Stingray. What can i say ? 1) About Quality: Lets put the F458 and 911 apart because you cannot compare the quality. They are really FAR from any other cars. Between the C7 and the GT-R (that are on the same pricetag here) the GT-R is a little ahead but, you feel more special on the C7 for sure. 2) Everyday driving: The F458 is really a nice car to drive everyday and the C7 (that I have tested for 3 days) is the most "user friendly" every day car of all. 3) Power: Well, I cannoy compare because my GT-R can do 0-60 in under 2.5secs. But the vette is a great car as well in this department. 4) On the corners: For me the most important on a sports car. The GTR and the GT3 are awesome. The F458 and the corvette are almost equal. 5) The noise. The ferrari IS the king. The corvette comes second for me. I have never had an american car already just because you cannot corner as fast as an european car. I like corners. But, this new corvette seems to fill this gap and now it's time to have one. Please be nice with comments. I'm moving to USA next year !!! :))
Yes lets take the track pack C7 and test it on winter tires on a filthy nasty pot filled road that no one ever would dream of talking their Ferrari on. Very good review even on such a garbage road.
+bongmistt in Project cars i dont like it. it suddenly get uncontrollable. when you loose contact you cant hold her. Cadillac ATS-V is much better to control there.
I personally drove the Corvette and it's a great car for the money but when I came to making the purchase I decided on the Porsche 911. The refinement goes to the 911, at a price too.
The corvette has to have a duel personality for sure. It needs to be a bit soft to appeal to the large number of old people who buy these as retirement cars and it also has to be a proper sports car. I think they balanced it pretty well. I want to seem them flog it in the dry and see what it can do. Z06 will be much more hardcore and will hopefully give some of that body control back, it will be the kind of car EVO loves.
That happens with any big engine car that is cheap... Same happens with Nissan GT-R when put against Porsche... Bad gear box and a lot of body roll, that are well known flaws of the Corvette, but people get attached and don't want to hear anything bad of the car.
Lilian Everybody reacts this way to defend something that they believe in, not just Corvette fans. So thanks for the obvious observation. According to this review, the gearbox was very good but the only criticism was that it did not have a lockout, which is purely a matter of personal preference. And the body roll was at the limit, a place where very few C7 or any sport car owner rarely takes the car.
chewsir Actually, not everyone does. If the criticism is constructive, the decent thing to do would be to admit to the flaw and, if you have the authority to do so (which most fans don't, but still), take the criticism into account when changing the product.
Bernabe Suarez A car's (or anything for that matter) merits do not cancel out its flaws. Just because a 911 is a fantastic driver's car, doesn't make its steering any better. Just because the GT-R is fast as hell doesn't make it any less detached to drive. Just because a 458 Italia is such a balanced and exciting car, doesn't make it any more reliable. And criticism is sometimes nitpicking. As long as the criticisms are justified, they are valid.
Corvette guys made those paddles on the wheel functional for the rev match feature. but I'm sure the accountants made them put the same steering wheel in both the auto and manual versions to save money. I want to love American cars but they always seem to cut corners to save on cost. Makes me nervous about where else they sacrificed to save money.
As you would expect the Corvette is a great car but with the new C7 Corvette Stingray it has a great interior and looks to die for along with the performance that jags can only dream about, that goes for the astons too...ooops did i tell you that the base corvette for $52,000 is faster than a porsche 911???? Well done corvette a brilliant car and full of technology that equals or beats European cars 2 or 3 times the cost!!! I like all the cars mentioned here but for looks alone Corvettes have always been sexier!!!! lol.
Chill Americans.I think this car is great.If in Malaysia they sold these,I would be very happy.But those who criticise this work of art,I cannot say anything about that.Its ur opinion not mine.Relax Americans,haters gonna hate
The fact that people still compare the Corvette to the 911 is probably the best news GM could ever receive. If you're the sort of person who is looking into purchasing a 60-65K sports car, it isn't likely that you will also be considering a 120-130K sports car. I understand that the price difference is less of an object in Europe because of shipping and taxes, but even in that scenario, the two cars are still pretty far apart on price. For an American the Corvette competes with the Boxter/Cayman, which may have a bit more precision when it comes to handling, but in terms of overall performance the two cars are in a completely different league.
Hey. Its the guys job to be as honest as possible. He could be a little bias. I'm a fan of the corvette living in CA. I Dont own Vette or a Porsche but with the perfect weather, we have a million of both cars on the road. For the 95% of buyers for both typed of cars, these people never take their car to the limit or track. Weekend warriors and like to Cruz and clean them. Id buy a Vette because I'm bias also. The maintenance on a Vette is 1/2 the price as a Porrche. A 2008/09 Z06 for 35-40K is a bargan performance car in my range.
I'm not a "Corvette Guy", but the new C7 is without a doubt the best sports car bargain in the world. Anyone who thinks otherwise is either a hater, or in complete denial.
I agree
Cough cough GTR cough cough
BarbecuedPossum
Cough cough...$110K...cough cough
Max Hertz exactly LOL. the GTR is twice the price, literally.
xevious2501 I got my GTR for $64,000 at 18k miles
I'm seeing a lot of Corvette haters here. You guys are really going to be crying a river when the Z06 comes out to play!
Why Europeans insist on just hating on American cars like the Vette is getting old. No matter how good it is, they'll claim another European car is better out of bias. And the cars they compare the Vette to are sometimes 2-3 times more expensive. Just a wee bit unfair? Nah. And why is the Vette's interior not nearly as good as an F-Type or a 911?! The 911's interior is drab and boring, the F-Type consistently has knocks against it for its flimsy interior. But while reviewing an American car those same interiors are then praised. Bias? Nah.
I come from the same American car haters club but ... I really disagree with this review. This is the first modern Corvette I actually want! It's an excellent car! Not just for the price but excellent car full-stop!!
It's not a cheap car in Europe. It's around £60,000 in the UK ($96,000), and for that money it just isn't good enough. At $35,000 to $40,000 in the US it brilliant. At Near;y $96,000 here it isn't.
So it's not "haters", it's not anti American, it's just too bloody expensive over here.
Billy Bollcoks $40,000 ? I think you mean £40,000
The worst was when Top Gear compared a Corvette C5 to a Ferrari 575, and a Camaro Z28 to an AMG Mercedes. Of COURSE the American ones aren't as good--but they're half the price!
Russell hawker Amen. I would choose the new Z/28 over just about any AMG.
"Corvette doesn't really feel like a sports car"
What? I gotta admit, even as an American, I am not a fanboy of Corvette (Porsche is more my type) however, it just feels like American cars just can't catch a break. I feel like you have to look at the Corvette in context in order to truly appreciate it. It gives you 911 performance for almost half the money. In that light, I can't see how you cant look at a c7 and not see it as one of the best SPORTS cars on sale today.
Put it back into context, he's saying the C7 doesn't feel like a sports car when you put it into Eco or Comfort mode.
^What that guy said. It doesn't "feel like sports car" in eco or comfort mode, which, if anything, is an attribute to the people who developed the car....
People don't understand its only cheap in America in Europe its more expensive than 911
I would also add the Viper
3:32, that is a really interesting camera angle - I like it.
exactly!!!!! YOu dont need to look at his god damn face man wft
peruface It's a legality thing. They often greatly exceed the public road speed limit and don't want video proof of it.
That's the best looking Corvette they have made in a long, long time - and it looks like it has the performance to back that up. I'd still rather take a 911, but hats of to the guys from Kentucky.
Michigan*
alexrex20 Kentucky*
so in other words, you like to spend more (way more) and get less. if you really prefer a VW 911 over a Corvette, you are probably not the sportscar purist with the skills to handle something that actually needs to be driven, as opposed to do all the driving through filters for the "driver", or rather the passenger/occupant. greets from germany.
***** How would you know it's difficult to drive fast? Have you ever driven a Corvette or a 911?
CHUUMPASS
Get more in which way? 911 has a far better interior, far better quality, its more comfortable, quieter, nicer to drive, and will last longer. And give me a break about the Corvette being a purist car that takes skill to handle...thats the 911 description.
Have to admit, what a bargain for this kind of car!
Jethro mentions the keyword in there once....CAYMAN. Thats what it should be compared against, not 911s and F type Jags. It must be compared to similar priced cars, and the cayman is one of them. What would you rather own, a poor mans 911 albeit with better dynamics, or this big red panty dropper with a thumping V8? I know what i'd choose!
Yes, being at least slightly unique is worth a lot in this day and age
Sad part is the corvette (z51) can out run some 911's and it outruns the f type and aston martins. It takes out cars worth 1/3 more while the new zo6 will out run cars twice its price range.
Man I hope not but you never know!
I don't know. I think the Camaro does a pretty good job on its own taking on the Cayman. Look at the 1LE vs Cayman S.
(Granted I'm talking mainly about performance, the Cayman obviously has a nicer interior, but for me I'd rather save the $25k and have a faster car to boot).
***** It'll only be it's last year "if" it doesn't sell.
Europeans seem to review the Corvette and complain that its different than the 911. The gear box isnt the same as the Porsche im used to driving and suddenly thats a negative. The C7 is an awesome machine and its is way more than just a bang for the buck proposal, this thing can dominate cars that cost twice as much! It has beautiful styling and the numbers dont lie. When the Z06 comes out its just gonna be incredible.
But its American, and made of plastic.
*****
If you have to lie to try and make a point then you have NO POINT to make.
***** Plastic does not = fiber glass, carbon fiber and Aluminum. Idiot
***** And America is an awesome country, so what's your point?
Yeah, awesomely fat and stupid! Corvettes and American cars have a cheap and tacky image in Europe, because well, they are.
You don't get that last bit of precision on winter tires in the rain.
He's driven other cars...in those same conditions, on that same road, and on winter tires.
derbigpr500 Same temps, same moisture on the road.....doubt it.
I used to bash the corvette up and down for years as being a unrefined disaster. Giant beast of an engine in a car that couldn't go around a corner if its life depended on it. But now....... wow. It's really come along. Corvette's are not just worth consideration, they're a worthy option.
Not to mention the fact that it looks absolutely stunning. As far as bang for your buck, I don't think you can go wrong. If worrying about the price tag is of no concern to you, than certainly you probably will find better cars but comparing a 250-500 thousand dollar super car to a 90-110 thousand dollar super car is kind of unfair.
This car with these specs come to a total of 60k
LOL. Couldn't go around a corner if its life dependent on it? Holy fucking shit. This again?
Corvettes have been able to take corners well since the C5 generation. They've never been up there with supercars in terms of handling, but they're not supercars. They've come a long way since the C4 generation and previous Corvettes.
You're right, in terms of built quality, Porsche has Corvette beat. But in terms of performance? Corvette has Porsche beat by a long shot.
C6 Z06/ZR1 can't go around a corner? lmao you couldn't be more wrong. just look at lap records at tracks across the globe.
Gotta love those snotty, know-it-all, British fellows...
Corvette making me proud :')
Its come a long way
I hope EVO comes out with a C7 Stingray vs. F-Type head-to-head comparison. I think they'll be surprised how close the two cars actually are.
Autoocar.uk did that.
Yeah, but that really wasn't a head-to-head comparison. They were gauging the C7 against the R8, 911 and F-Type convertible in specific areas where these cars excel. I want to see both road and track testing with scientific data of the F-Type vs. C7 Stingray!
And you've driven both cars extensively to know that they'll be very close or is it your extreme nationalism that makes you think that?
Never did I claim I've driven either. Just look at them... front-engined, V-8 powered, rear wheel drive, GT cars with similar specs. Then consider the history of the E-Type (the last decent car Jag has made according to Jeremy Clarkson) vs. the C2 Stingray. Is it your extreme nationalism that Tata will come out on top?
I'd be fun to conduct I'm sure, but really there's no comparison to be made here. I mean honestly, no one, I repeat, no one, is cross shopping these two.
Corvettes are bought by balding, rounding, mid-life crisis sufferers who will keep their newly purchased Vette squeaky clean and concealed in the garage. They'll take it out once every six months to take it to the club meeting where they all gather around and look at each other's Vette's and talk about how fast their Vette's are, how much better they are than the 911, and then they'll drive home and back into the garage till next time.
It's good news for us really, it just means the next generation of really clean, low mileage sports cars has just gotten a whole lot more capable, but let's be honest these cars aren't going to be driven in anger till their first owners become too arthritic to climb aboard any more.
The F-type on the other hand, that's a fashion accessory, not a sports car. And I'm not insulting its credentials because apparently it's an epic fun drive. But in reality, it could have a C4 Corvette's interior, handle like a C3, and have the C1's Blue Flame six cylinder for motivation and it just wouldn't matter.
The F-type is gorgeous, painfully pretty, and that's all it really needs to be. The E-type was a flawed car; the Moss gearbox was apparently a massive pain in the ass, they slightly fibbed the car's then world leading top speed, and they had to use lead shot in the roof to keep it from flapping at speed. But that didn't matter, because it was just breathtakingly beautiful.
The Corvette is a great sports car, for the first time in decades it's no longer the cheap alternative. But the F-type, is a work of art
The fact that it is being compared to cars that have a much higher price point is a huge compliment.
I could have taken the time to listen to the whole thing. It wasn't a horrible review and the fact the car was on winter tires might explain some of it. That being said the Vette is an amazing car for the money. Hands down best bang for the buck. Regarding fair reviews over seas... Almost never happens... Regarding an American car or any car for that matter getting judged fairly in the States I disagree. I've seen the latest Mustang GT500 and all of its power get absolutely shredded in the US. A car is judged by its merit here. Overseas it's pretty common to see the Vette get ripped. Some points are accurate but most are completely biased.
Or maybe the car is just being judged for what is with any patriotism. Nice to see car reviews done on less than perfect roads.
I generally find that most people screaming "BIAS!!!!" are really just letting their own bias get in the way of reasoning. So maybe I am doing the same thing, but I do agree that a lot of European reviews of American cars (Corvette in particular) seem overly harsh.
This one wasn't too bad, but testing anything built for performance in the cold an wet, let alone on winter tires is not really going to give a true impression. And also I'm not exactly sure what he was getting with the brakes. I've never heard anyone else say the same. Perhaps his problem was ABS kicking in sometimes and not others?
In my opinion international cars are judged for what they are in the States. I believe there is a genuine bias when it comes to the Vette in Europe. I'm a fan of most cars. I'm passionate predominately with Japanese cars so there is no bias on my part. I call it like I see it. The Vette is and has been the best bang for any form of currency. There's nothing on the market that can compete with it for the money and then some.
And when you break it look at the difference in cost to repair it.
There's not a European car that can compare and when the ZO6 comes out You'll be hard pressed to want to spend 10 to 100s of thousands more to get outperformed by the ZO6.
Nissan is going to have to go back to the drawing board for the GTR when that car hits the streets.
Im a chevy guy and i have to say great vid. Its nice to hear a non amarican opinion. You weren't kinding about that road holy crap. I wouldnt have the balls to go that fast on it.
Our British roads can be very hard to drive fast on. Ive always hated the US cars but i have to admit i adore this stingray. Im gonna start drinking bud and listening to rock and roll
It's funny how he keeps putting his hand on the paddle because it's so irritating to have paddles that are actually not for shifting gears.
So what the point of having them ? Do they have another function or Chevrolet is just lazy to remove them with the manual gear box ?
Froseization You can turn On Rev match on the right paddle and turn it Off on the left paddle.
Froseization Its for the rev matching, it turns it on and off.
Kaipeternicolas
Thanks for these quick answers Kaipeternicolas and atxpete. So is there any reason to turn it off ? In case you want to drive slowly ?
Froseization Well if you know what you're doing you don't need that crap. lol
It's perfect! These European guy's love to hate on the corvette and I've seen the Same thing in other European reviews on the corvette stingray he's really trying to criticize it and point out what's wrong with it but that's the thing there's nothing wrong with it. It's fast fun good looking economical. and a great value and that small block Chevy is bulletproof what more could you want.
I actually test drove the last model of one of these when deciding weather to get a carrera 2s, it drove great and if it were just a track car it probably wouldve taken my money. but to be honest its unfair to compare it to a 911. its just not in the same league really in terms of transmission or build quality or just feeling of solidity. and the price is indicative of this. not to mention you have to realise in europe these cars look really very vulgar and in the end i felt very embarrassed to be driving it.
also they are very different target markets. if you ever get the chance to test drive a 911 you should really try it you wil see what we are all on about
Screw them. I'm european and I've always loved the Vette. It can eat ferraris and porsches without being snob.
felix pinto Is the C7 in the same price range as the 911 in europe? In the US its not and for all its great evolution from the C6 its not up there in terms of quality and overall ride control. Its a great great looking $60k USD car that punches above its weight in performance but I wouldnt put it in that higher range. Though it is getting there..
Felix is gay
The jaguar f-type must look vulgar in Europe to lol what the fuck are you talking about some old jeremy Clarkson shit you heard from top gear stfu
Chris Harris said the F-Type's interior felt cheap. They both have that passenger grab handle too. I don't think they are that far apart. Only thing wrong with the Vette is that damn wheel gap
Ya the F-type isn't super high quality but it's still better than the Vette.
Kaipeternicolas The vette is also about 20k cheaper...
Toxxic88 Yup. I didn't question it's value. But in terms of quality they are still far enough apart to make the Jag worth a fair bit more.
F-type might feel cheaper than expected for a JAGUAR, but Corvette is certainly not even near it. As that guy from the US in the review said, Corvette might be a 10/10 in terms of interior quality for american standards, but it's a 7/10 for european standards. 911 feels about 3 times as expensive inside.
derbigpr500 What!? Jaguar's interior quality has been absolute shit for quite a while. The F-Type is a step forward. Ford pretty much ruined the company.
This car has been reviewed up and down as amazing, best bang for the buck, something the competition should be concerned about, so much better then the C6, etc...
Leave it to this guy to come up with something negative... Maybe EVERYONE else is wrong...
I don't think so. I'll just consider the source.
I stopped watching midway through the video.
The Europeans very rarely give the Vette an unbiased review.
What are you talking about. I heard alot more positive than negative. Especially in the first half of the video. He said it was a great leap forward from the C6, had a sharper and more powerful engine, and an excellent supple chassis. Loved that it had a manual still, good steering, great noise, thought it was great value . Etc. etc...
The only thing he had to knock about it was that it lacked a bit of precision in the body control for his taste. That's constructive criticism, and I think he's right. As in the videos I've seen of the C7, I've seen the undulations and wiggles over bumps and during braking.
if Europeans give this car a good rating then i would say yes .......because Americans don't give cars made in the u.s a bad review
Can we all take a moment to appreciate that the guy running this test has gotten a significant bump in promotion from evo to the grandaddy of them all,Top Gear 🇺🇸?
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The steering paddles were confusing me...
They are just big buttons for turning on/off the auto rev matching system
branot89 Really stupid solution if you ask me.
You use to rev match the engine during downshifts, not just to activate the system
Carlos Villalobos You're wrong.
GM seems to be using the same steering wheel/column on multiple vehicles now, on the ELR for regen braking, and on the 'Vette for rev matching for the manual box or gear selection in the auto. I have a feeling we'll see the paddles on all future cars from them for one thing or another. I had one of their mid-80s Pontiacs with a single stalk for brights, wipers, and turn signals that flipped the wipers every time you hit the blinker.
This vette handles better than any other vette.
3:32 Leave it at that camera angle please!!!! YOu dont need to look at his god damn face man wft!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
yea i like that camera angle as well! i think the don't use it on 'public' roads as it shows the speedometer, note at 3:32 how the camera angle changed at 59MPH
Of course we are now reading trash from all the euro fans below, I really mean trash. Look at the comparo of the C7 vs 911 carrera S and other than a hair quicker in acceleration by the 911 the Vette won handily in the slalom, braking, skid pad etc...Considering the C7 is $60 - 70 K vs the 911 at $140K clearly the C7 is king. For minimal $ I am installing a 2.3 TVS to liquidate just about anything, I am buying a C7, amazing machine for the money.
Problem is when the Corvette is brought to Europe the price is comparable to a 911. This ultimately means it gets compared to them. While a 911 is expensive for you guys because of import costs...It's the other way here. The Vette catches up due to the shipping and taxes it gets hit with.
The standard C7 with no options in the UK is $103,000 equivalent. Add your options to it and it's pushing $120,000. Can you see the reason it's getting compared now?
Vette starts at (£65,000) a Porsche 911 starts at £73,000. That is heavily into Porsche territory money wise over here. It's also worse on fuel, got to also keep in mind we are paying $8 a gallon so this does factor in still even at these prices. You can have a Porsche 911 with lets be honest better German build quality and a more efficient engine for the same money.
yonumpty If you noticed, the Porsche goes for pretty much the same price here as in Europe, the import cost on cars in the US is literally nothing. The Vette is still not in Porsche territory for price range because the price difference between the vette and porsche itself is far. The Corvette is still cheaper in Europe.
And you are wrong on fuel economy, the Vette gets 29 mpg on the hwy while the porsche gets 26-27 hwy on the base model. I find it funny how the Vette somehow pulls this off from a V8 460 HP Engine. Not to mention the Corvette has a much nicer sound.
Lets be honest, the build quality is the same, seats are both made by the same company, both cars hand stitched leather using Nappa and Alcantara leather while the 911 is using just Alcantara, (Both honestly feel the same and are both satisfying to touch). Both are on an aluminum reinforced frame, both have aluminum buttons inside the car oh and both cars have plastic in it and pretty much the same amount.
Aside from that, the Corvette is a much better daily driver and just a much more practical vehicle, more cargo space by a landfall. On almost every website, the Corvette Stingray is ranked the number 1 car while Porsche is usually 2nd or 3rd but mostly 2nd.
I am going to quote the figures from the UK Chevrolet website and the UK Porsche site. Which have figures more suitable for use here. (Different types of roads, different larger gallon as well so figures can be higher)
911 Carrera S going to try and level the results, by comparing power rather than price. Quoting for Manual with PDK in brackets.
Extra Urban 32.2 mpg (PDK 35.1 mpg)
Urban 17.7 mpg (PDK 19.4 mpg)
Combined 29.7 mpg (PDK 32.5 mpg)
These are on the Porsche website, will have to convert l/100km to mpg for some reason they only quote mpg on the combined figure.
For the Corvette, which doesn't list manual vs auto.
Extra Urban 36.2 mpg
Urban 14.7 mpg
Combined 23.5mpg
So while yes it does get better highway (extra urban), fact is that on a more typical driving style (combined) it is lower on the vette. Around town it's lower as well. If you live on the high way fair enough.
Now comparing the Carrera (non S) to the Vette the 0-60 time is 0.2s different on the PDK. While the Porsche starts at £75,897, the Vette starts at £61,520. For conversion £1 is equivalent to around $1.66 American. Which is $102123 (It's literally double in price coming to the UK). The thing the 911 is it comes in a lower tax band based on CO2 emissions. Meaning it's first year tax is £485. While the Vette you can add on £1090. Then the yearly rate after that is £500 for the Vette and £265 for the Porsche.
Just made two cars up a 911 and a Vette, Problem is the 911 has a lot more on the options list. So I basically came up with a similar spec between them. Worked out at £82,272 for the 911, and the vette was £72,275.
Add on tax £82,537 for the 911 and £73,365. So the difference between them in European pricing terms is not a lot. £9k is very little at this kind of market. To put it into value terms. A base model Fiesta starts at £14k.
While materials can be similar, build quality is more than just that. Plastics are generally of a poorer quality in American cars too. It's getting better, but still no there yet. It's things like panel gaps, how everything is secured together etc. It's a lot more than just, oh it has leather it's the same.
Add in that one comes in right hand drive the other left hand drive. It gets easier to make the decision in favour of the Porsche.
I am sure if you guys were having to pay $121,785 for a Vette. You would also start looking towards Porsches too. The prices here are just ridiculous. Which is why so few sell, they also shot themselves in the foot by making it only LHD in the UK.
***** No, whats important is everything about the car: i.g: Build quality, performance, reliability, fuel economy, the way the car feels, do you fit in it, how practical it is.
"Corvettes (all of them) are shockingly bad"
Am sir, wtf? I guess you ignored the C1, C2, C3, Corvette, and C7. I can admit the C4, C5 and C6 interiors were a joke, however that is no longer the case. I have been in both cars and driven a 2013 Porsche 911 (Sadly still never driven the vette yet), and to that I tried finding everything wrong with both interiors, and you would be surprised that I tell you this, both cars have the same amount of plastic inside of them, however, they are both soft touch plated plastic, the Corvette has it around the cup holders area which in my opinion is a good area to put plastic at for multiple reasons while the porsche had it around the dash at least from what I felt, however you are wrong on loose panels, the C7 has literally none, everything is tight and held in place just like the porsche. Even the Paddle Shifter (Rev Matching paddles) both felt the same and were both held in place the same. Thin leather, well I have no idea how to tell the difference but I have felt both cars like I said and both cars honestly just feel the same other than the fact that the Corvette has Nappa and Alcantara while the 911 just has alcantara, however, sitting in the C7 was a lot more comfortable (because I am a tallish guy) and there was a lot more leg space in the Corvette which just added to the overall satisfactory. To be honest, both cars just feel the same, both have it's plastic, however the Stingray picked a better spot to have soft touch plastic over the 911.
So their you go, I hope you learned something, sitting in both cars feels the same, unless you were to tear each car apart, you will never see the difference if there even is any. And you are wrong once again wow, Corvettes seriously have always been competing against Euro cars and winning at least in performance, but the new C7 is winning in nearly every category thanks to it's new interior and technology advancements, all that and still a 53k car.
yonumpty I nearly only drive on the Highway's, but I am pretty sure if I had one of these cars that would change since I would go for joy rides lol. So Porsche wins city, Corvettes wins HWY, however, you also forgot that when they do city, they test city mpg under touring mode and not the eco mode that car has or else it would be false advertising so under eco mode that vette should do a little better in the city but not by much. I wish they had statistic for each mode of the car.
I understand the price difference, but I actually was talking about something else but never mind because it doesn't make a difference for you but only me and my Country because import tax is literally nothing here.
If you been in the Corvette and 911, the spots of which there are plastic in both are pretty much in the same spot but the Porsche also has a little on the dash (I thought it was aluminum but it wasn't) The Vette has it around the cup holders area but you would be shocked to know that feeling both their was no difference, they were both soft touch plastic. So the difference between the plastics in the car is 1 to 1. I know the leather is different, however both cars just felt the same despite the Corvette having two types of leather in it, so I have no idea where the actual Alcantara and Nappa leather parts are located unless it was the seats.
Both cars are spot on for panel gaps or (Loose panels if that's what you mean) Everything in both cars feel well solid and in place, nothing loose, nothing squeaks, both felt the same.
I will admit the Porsche has that advantage which makes me wonder why GM has yet to put right hand on it, but right hand only effects like, 4 European Countries I believe.
If the Corvette was the same exact price as the Porsche, there would simply be more in the Corvette, but if there wasn't, then... erm. I have no clue, you see I don't exactly like the entire exterior of the Porsche, from some angles it does not give me that sports car look while the Corvette has the meaner sports car stance which looks more unique, here is my example:
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I just like that meaner stance of the vette and the lines on it, however, I do like the interior color option trims on the Corvette better especially the read and black (which also looks good on the Porsche, but I do like the Porsche's interior door styling a lot more, but I dislike how that center dash elevates to the dash (it reminds me of a prius). Also I am American so I need cup holders lol. (For In N Out, not MD). JK, but I commute a lot and like to have a drink for my long drives, especially in the heat.
Excellent review!
Can't be a legitimate British auto journalist without "finding" random stuff that are wrong with a Corvette, and thinking the _insert random British car_ is better than it...
Evo gave the C7 Vette 4.5 stars out of 5 in the magazine. It is a proper car. With Z51 and magnetic dampers, this car sell for about the equivalent of 35K Sterling in Canada and the US. It is an amazing car for the money and fantastic looking in the real world.
It was a manual gear transmission, my mistake, but still the new Z06 will rectify those problems. It's an awesome automobile made for the purpose of takin on the 911.
Absolutely love this car!
These roads are a short drive from me, fantastic roads, great fun!
I really enjoyed this review. The C7 is a car that America can definitely be proud of. I can't wait until the Z06 is released.
I'm not a big fan of american cars tbh, but this Corvette and the Ford GT are masterpieces, and this corvette in particular, is the car i would buy if i could buy any car.
at least it has HUD something Porsche seems to neglect
Love the Corvette, and also love European cars, especially Porsche. One difference between the Corvette and those more expensive cars, though, is the fact that you can drive the absolute stink out of it, take it to the track, etc., and not worry about major breakdowns and repairs soaring in the thousands of dollars. It's not a status symbol, but a real driver's car that people aren't afraid of flogging for fear of breaking something and having huge repair bills. It is what it is, one hell of a bargain and a lot of fun to actually drive :)
The camera "looking out" the windscreen and also showing the interior should be shown MUCH MORE than the ~1.7 seconds in this video, instead of showing him for a net 3 minutes... come on.
At the end of the day, they are comparing it to the f-type and the 911. So you KNOW it has to be an amazing car!
despite this being a hodge-podge of design ideas (ferrari/GT-R, etc...), this is finally starting to look like a world-class sports car. I say "starting" because it's not quite there yet...BUT this is a quantum leap better than the outgoing model by far. And that interior is finally starting to look the part too. Although those red accents are pretty funky, especially in the middle where the right accent doesn't really flow into the dash well. But I suppose this is the best GM can do, and it seems they found a better team for this project.
Agreed. The red isn't the best color interior wise, admittedly. I prefer the grey/black, or black on black interior
Dat look. Dat sound. And for that price ! Excellent job, masterpiece. The front reminds me of an american 458
Per Jethro (EVO review article)
The brake pedal is inconsistent and by the end of a day of filming, the stoppers were howling in protest (although other mags had used and abused this car before us). In combination these things start to make the Stingray feel a bit heavier than it really is (1496kg).
His criticism of brake feel is due USED AND ABUSE by previous magazine car reviewers,
the other about bottom out is justifiable, otherwise he gave a 4 1/2 out of 5 stars
First American car I'd consider owning
A press car that has probably been raped, reviewed in poor conditions and on winter tires...LOL yeah the best way to review a car indeed GTFO Evo
He said that the real test will follow.
Halfwit.
jethro is getting better and better....start to really like his reviews very much...keep on!
Gm does try hard, must give them credit. Poor bastards!
Corvette has been schooling the Europeans and Japanese for quite awhile now, both in production cars and racecars. Yep, poor bastards!
alexrex20 Really? Pray tell dear chap!
alexrex20 Yes that is why it is NOT driven anywhere outside US lol
ivanovsd Doesn't need to be driven outside of the US. Since the US is where the most money is, and the best of pretty much everything, this is the only place you really need to be successful! Not driven outside of the US and yet wildly successful. If the exotics can't sell cars here in the US, they cannot survive. In short......you need us, we DON'T need you. Number one rule of sales of any sort......"go where the money is"! Learn a lesson son!!
Gerald Logue Haha and then someone comes and says americans are stupid
Aside from all the performance comments about the C7, the car is also much more reliable and a lot less maintenance than both the Porsche and Jaguar. I love Porsche, probably more so than Chevy's Corvette, but the Corvette is a proper car for the normal person looking for great performance, luxury, and reliability (for a supercar). I don't really care about Jaguar cause, half the time the car will probably be in the shop because we all know UK cars break down almost every other drive haha.
Lol well jaguar are pretty high quality cars compared to Audi and BMW's which are always in the shop. And I own a 96 Vette btw and gotta admit it's a really reliable car for its age
EdwardDG2 Jaguars are very high quality cars, they just aren't reliable lol. My neighbor owns 3 of them, 2007 XK, a newer 2013 XE, and a 2001 XJR all of them have/had electronic problems and almost 1 of the 2 were either in the shop or not being used for some mechanical problem. Corvettes are tough as nails so long as you don't drive them off a cliff or treat them like trash haha.
+Irrozan - LOL - you're commenting on the F-Type's reliability by using other models issues. The F-Type is under a new team of engineers, and sorry to break it to you: this isn't the late 90's.
bongmistt That's strange, my neighbor sold his F-Type a few months back because it had a lot of problems. Beautiful sounding car, sold it for a Porsche 911 GT3 RS. Maybe he had a bad apple I don't really know, but if they are more reliable, I'll take a Jaguar XFS ;)
You're so full of shit. Your imaginary neighbour continues to buy Jaguar's despite past issues, and then suddenly buys a GT3 - Fucking lol!
It's that song again! Just that little clip of distorted feedback at the start. XCAR use it in their outros too. But what is it? I really want to find out. Sounds like it could be Aphex Twin, or something like it maybe.
Dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude....I have been looking for this song name for like 3 weeks now with no luck. I'm REALLY hoping that an EVO writer or someone will tell us because I've gotten 0 responses from XCAR.
I'm european and no matter if the awesome new c7 corvette's price is near to porsche's which is a fantastic sport car nobody denies that :-) i would still buy the c7 because i really like this awesome car i've watched tons of review videos to get to know as possible as more things about this car and really loved it :-) I know it's not the best but i don't care i just LOVE IT :-)
Manual gearbox with paddle shifts? And I love how Americans can say a car with 6.2L V8 is an everyday car. I really do envy that. In my country, a litre of petrol is 3 $.
I love how foreign journalists are not beholden to corporate America and can give an honest assessment of the pro's and con's. Well done Evo. That being said I'd still take one over any other sports car under $100K.
What an amazing car!
Good review, its nice seeing someone be proper honest about the car and not afraid to upset the corvette fanboys who can't take any criticism about the car. Its still a great car and a massive improvement on the previous model but no car is 100% perfect!
I don't think this was an HONEST review. To me, he didn't say enough positive things about the C7, that would account for the reason why he had a smile on his face the entire time he was driving the car.
tmat04 Iv seen manny reviews from journalists who have literally been praising it. This presenter just mentioned a couple of negative things.
I do not understand the comments on this at all. Jethro didn't 'hate' on the car or give a bias review. He did exactly what a reviewer is supposed to do, gave the good points and bad points so a consumer can make a decision (with a bias on what works in Britain as the car is being officially imported here for the first time). In America you can talk about how cheap this is compared to an F-Type or 911 but here a Corvette costs £65k or $110k, the same as a V6S F-Type and not a huge amount less than a 911 Carrera.
Damn the rear is just so out of touch with the rest of the awesome design. So sad...
agree..it looks overstyled and cheap. the front is gorgeous.
the tester really had a hard time finding anything to badmouth the Corvette, (and that's exactly how you know what a brilliant and ultra capable machine the Corvette really is!) but then again, being a brit, he still managed to pull something out his arse to do so. even if it is the utmost absurdity.
I call bullshit!
he claims the interior is worse than a F-type.
While other reviews say the interior is almost identical to the f-type.
Wow the interior looks thousand time better than the C6 and oh so glorious engine note. I wonder if the pedal feel is due in part to this being a press car where multi users driving styles has taken its toll. Also knew he couldn't resist not drifting it just once.
Whats with the tailights? They point in direction of the curves in the road?
Comparing a Z51 C7 to a 911 or an F Type seems ridiculous to me. Both are at least 20k more in the UK. Both are almost double the price here in the US. Compare it to a base Cayman (good luck finding one of those) and you may have something. It reminds me of those old videos comparing a Z06 to a GT2, pointless. Also, I'll wait for a real test.
They're comparing the essence of the cars, and not the price in these videos.
ewt415 I don't even know what that means. My point is no one is going to be cross shopping a C7 and a 911. They are not competitors.
David Nicholson If you don't know that difference, then you don't have enough experience with cars.
Good to see the Kentucky native doing well for herself. Can't wait for the reviews of the Z06 or Z07, whatever they'll call it.
It will be called a Z06. The Z07 performance package will be the Stage 3 track option. This Z06 should put all on notice. A ZR1 maybe will the fray also. Don't be surprised to see 1 in two more years.
We're going to get the Z06 when it comes out, and it's gonna be an outstanding car. I don't care what anybody says, the European reviewers are still biased against American cars just because they don't sell well there. However, if you listen to the types of complaints, it's the same sort of caliber of thing you hear from any Porsche or Ferrari. Opinions. This car may not be as fast as a Ferrari, but I think it's just as fun, and I've driven it a few times so this is my opinion.
Thanks for Finally taking it on. It´s a damn good barging and a great looking and sounding car and due to this review also very balanced and approachable.
So what is the bad side - Well even that this car deserves proper recognition we will still have to bear with the nationalistic pride from one side of the Atlantic and the arrogance from the Other. For me I´m all for European cars but I am truly happy that the Corvette has been improved by such a large margin - It´s a damn great sports car and if I was in the US I would not hesitate to take it. But if I had the extra money, yes I would go default for the F-Type or a 911 regardless of the performance numbers.
I am quite sure that Z06 version will send some shakes into the established lines of European equivalents for performance, but will that be enough to really change what people with enough money on the account will buy - I´m sorry but I think it will not really or if then only very marginally. Though buyers who would consider a GT-might change their mind and consider the C7 since the price difference is now is substantial.
Does anybody has a suggestion/guess to what a full Spec C7 Z06 will cost approx. ?.
Thanks for the review ;)
I like how the c7 looks with exception to the gaudy quad exhaust.
Its a shame that the Vette and Camaro won't be available in RHD. I really like the look of both and I am sure they would actually sell well in UK. Come on follow fords lead and put the steering wheel on the other side GM !!
On a side note I don't get all the hate about car brands, my last car was 911 and my current car is a GTR, each of these cars along with the Vette, Camaro and Mustang all have their own unique plus points and you buy them for different reasons, no matter which one is your favourite at the end of the day its all about loving cars.
Not a huge Vette fan, but I would like to see it tested with dry comp tires and dry weather. It may stack up better.
i like this, i like this big time.
The grin on his face says it all. Awesome car. Could tell he was struggling to keep that BEAST of American muscle from killing him. Beware only those who can handle this Monster need apply.
im not a big chev fan i have blue blood ! must say thou this car looks to be properly refined , top notch review man very engrossing, enjoyed that chers,
What are paddles on the steering wheel for if there's Manual Gearbox? :p
Rev matching. on- -off
On the automatic is for shifting. Pretty quick, considering its not dual clutch.
Russell hawker typical Brit
Ok. theres validity to both systems. If not F1 cars would still have manual shifting. That said IMO a manual makes the driver a direct part of the cars operation, and as thus makes the driver thoroughly part of the experience. Paddles are little more than oldschool automatics with shift levers. by design your not nearly as connected to the experience. the Reason why comapanies have made the switch to paddles is because it reduces cost in warranteed transmitions and clutch damage. Also the in increase in gears from 6 to 7 or soon to come 8 is not desired in terms of fatigue in manual form. lastly theres just tons of lame-drivers that prefer automatics.and thus paddles.
The C7 Corvette Stingray Z51 starts from £61,495.00 in the UK
Just as a last sobering comment to the inaccurate spewage below in regards to the build quality of the C7 corvette, absolute rubbish, there are no lose body panels or interior trim pieces at all, the car is solid, well put together and looks amazing. Certainly like all cars there is the odd unit that may have a defect or two, part of mass production that all brands share, can be remedied and is understood given that we get to drive and enjoy this kind of performance for a great price..give me the competitive unit, those that want to pay more for status, be my guest, great part is not only does the C7 turn in great numbers but it looks and handles the part...
He keeps saying it does not have the bite that the F-Type has, well no shit Scherlock, the F-type has 100 more horses, which are produced by it's super charger, it should have more byte, and the F-Type is also $40 grand more than the Corvette. Nothing in it's price point can compete with the new Stingray.
From the side it looks so nice.
Reading a lot of these comments shows how uneducated people are about certain cars. Goes to also show how biased they are and just vomit out what they've heard/read in such publications as Top Gear, EVO etc etc. While I give props to EVO for having some of the best photography and great story write ups (Still love the one about falcon and trying to set the ring record with a Zonda). But they always talk more and more about how a car feels this and that at your finger tips and the butt. Which is great and all but when it comes to cold hard numbers MT/CD has them beat.
Since the C5 generation the Corvette has been a world beater when it comes to actually being driven on track. The car has been brought down by its awful use of poor materiel when it comes to the body/interior. However the chassis and drive train of the C5 and present Corvette has always been world class. So do yourself a favor and actually do some research before spouting off bull like "Its american muscle, what do you expect," "it can't turn worth ...." etc etc
BTW the Corvette isn't an American Muscle car, it's an American Sports Car.
Nice review. Corvette looks good but would like to see a comparison video between this car and the F-type Jag. Both with summer tires preferably.
The fact that there isn't a lock from 4th to 7th gear is really bad, come on GM.. Drink some coffee before you make some decision about it!
Trust me if there were people would complain about not being able to skip 5th and 6th.
You can't please everyone, and frankly I don't see how this would be harder than going from 2nd to 3rd and not ending up in 5th in virtually every manual car in the last 20 years.
Adam S
Because if you don't use any force the stick will center underneath 3rd and then just push up no need to judge how far to push but rather when to push. However since there are 7 gears you need to judge how far to push when shifting and depending on the feel of the gearbox that can be anything from a non-issue to a headache that you get used to. It's still not that big of a deal though.
If you just push up at a slightly right angle it will always shift into the next odd gear. Works with every manual I have ever driven...I've never gone up then over then up. I tried this on a C7 transmission (car was off) and it seemed fine. The only shift that would be difficult is if you wanted to go from 2nd (after a romp) to 5th.
Great car, no doubt, it's got a manual gearbox! But it's quite strange that it's god paddles behind the steering wheel.
Well guys, please do not smash me for this. I'm from Brazil and that means that all cars are absolutely expensive here. And I mean 500k for a F458 and almost 200k for a C7 corvette. I manage to work hard and be blessed with the means to have a lot of cars. So I currently have a 2013 F458 Spyder, a 2014 911 GT3, an 2012 880hp AMS GTR, and I'm looking to buy a new C7 Stingray. What can i say ?
1) About Quality: Lets put the F458 and 911 apart because you cannot compare the quality. They are really FAR from any other cars. Between the C7 and the GT-R (that are on the same pricetag here) the GT-R is a little ahead but, you feel more special on the C7 for sure.
2) Everyday driving: The F458 is really a nice car to drive everyday and the C7 (that I have tested for 3 days) is the most "user friendly" every day car of all.
3) Power: Well, I cannoy compare because my GT-R can do 0-60 in under 2.5secs. But the vette is a great car as well in this department.
4) On the corners: For me the most important on a sports car. The GTR and the GT3 are awesome. The F458 and the corvette are almost equal.
5) The noise. The ferrari IS the king. The corvette comes second for me.
I have never had an american car already just because you cannot corner as fast as an european car. I like corners. But, this new corvette seems to fill this gap and now it's time to have one.
Please be nice with comments. I'm moving to USA next year !!! :))
How come this car has flappy paddles and a manual gearbox? did not know you could have both, thats awesome!
Awesome car, looks like GM have finally got their act together. Does anyone have any issues with driving a LHD car in the UK?
Yes lets take the track pack C7 and test it on winter tires on a filthy nasty pot filled road that no one ever would dream of talking their Ferrari on. Very good review even on such a garbage road.
I respect the c7 in the same way i respect motorbikes. They aren't for everyone, but no one can deny the performance per pound/dollar.
Cant wait to see the z06 in action against the rivals
Now how is Corvette C8 💥💯😎
I'm loving this car in Assetto Corsa.
+bongmistt in Project cars i dont like it. it suddenly get uncontrollable. when you loose contact you cant hold her.
Cadillac ATS-V is much better to control there.
Selling quite well in uk actually there is a dealer in Huddersfield who says that
I personally drove the Corvette and it's a great car for the money but when I came to making the purchase I decided on the Porsche 911. The refinement goes to the 911, at a price too.
Corvette is just an amazing car
The corvette has to have a duel personality for sure. It needs to be a bit soft to appeal to the large number of old people who buy these as retirement cars and it also has to be a proper sports car. I think they balanced it pretty well. I want to seem them flog it in the dry and see what it can do. Z06 will be much more hardcore and will hopefully give some of that body control back, it will be the kind of car EVO loves.
C7 Corvette fans just can't take any criticism towards the car, can they?
This is actually a very good review on favor of the C7 and look at that grin on his face.
That happens with any big engine car that is cheap... Same happens with Nissan GT-R when put against Porsche...
Bad gear box and a lot of body roll, that are well known flaws of the Corvette, but people get attached and don't want to hear anything bad of the car.
Lilian Everybody reacts this way to defend something that they believe in, not just Corvette fans. So thanks for the obvious observation. According to this review, the gearbox was very good but the only criticism was that it did not have a lockout, which is purely a matter of personal preference. And the body roll was at the limit, a place where very few C7 or any sport car owner rarely takes the car.
chewsir Actually, not everyone does. If the criticism is constructive, the decent thing to do would be to admit to the flaw and, if you have the authority to do so (which most fans don't, but still), take the criticism into account when changing the product.
Bernabe Suarez A car's (or anything for that matter) merits do not cancel out its flaws. Just because a 911 is a fantastic driver's car, doesn't make its steering any better. Just because the GT-R is fast as hell doesn't make it any less detached to drive. Just because a 458 Italia is such a balanced and exciting car, doesn't make it any more reliable. And criticism is sometimes nitpicking. As long as the criticisms are justified, they are valid.
Corvette guys made those paddles on the wheel functional for the rev match feature. but I'm sure the accountants made them put the same steering wheel in both the auto and manual versions to save money. I want to love American cars but they always seem to cut corners to save on cost. Makes me nervous about where else they sacrificed to save money.
As you would expect the Corvette is a great car but with the new C7 Corvette Stingray it has a great interior and looks to die for along with the performance that jags can only dream about, that goes for the astons too...ooops did i tell you that the base corvette for $52,000 is faster than a porsche 911???? Well done corvette a brilliant car and full of technology that equals or beats European cars 2 or 3 times the cost!!! I like all the cars mentioned here but for looks alone Corvettes have always been sexier!!!! lol.
Chill Americans.I think this car is great.If in Malaysia they sold these,I would be very happy.But those who criticise this work of art,I cannot say anything about that.Its ur opinion not mine.Relax Americans,haters gonna hate
The fact that people still compare the Corvette to the 911 is probably the best news GM could ever receive. If you're the sort of person who is looking into purchasing a 60-65K sports car, it isn't likely that you will also be considering a 120-130K sports car. I understand that the price difference is less of an object in Europe because of shipping and taxes, but even in that scenario, the two cars are still pretty far apart on price. For an American the Corvette competes with the Boxter/Cayman, which may have a bit more precision when it comes to handling, but in terms of overall performance the two cars are in a completely different league.
Great car, love it!
what are the shiftpaddles on the steeringwheel for?? It's a manual
Rev matching
I love the corvette
Sorry, the C7 stingray interior is top notch and just as good as the Porsches interior.
Hey. Its the guys job
to be as honest as possible. He could be a little bias. I'm a fan of the corvette living in CA. I Dont own Vette or a Porsche but with the perfect weather, we have a million of both cars on the road. For the 95% of buyers for both typed of cars, these people never take their car to the limit or track. Weekend warriors and like to Cruz
and clean them. Id buy a Vette because I'm bias also. The maintenance on a Vette is 1/2 the price as a Porrche. A 2008/09 Z06 for 35-40K is a bargan performance car in my range.