18:35 Just a correction: it's not the number of Powerwalls deployed. Quite the opposite. It's the volume of solar panels deployed *without* a battery. A major part of the problem is that (most) rooftop systems don't have the ability to be curtailed. This is slowly changing, but it will take 20+ years for this to rinse through the system. So during the day when no one's home and their panels are pumping their entire output into the grid, it is utility solar and wind that take the brunt of curtailment. Nowadays utility solar and wind projectes are increasingly required to include some amount of storage, in order to be approved. There's talk of shifting consumer incentives for solar towards home batteries too, which should help. Some figures for you: We now have around 4m rooftop PV systems. That's with a population of 27m. 1 in 4 houses, or something like that. We've installed 30k home battiers in the 2024 H1, average size is 12-13kWh AFAIK. Both PV and home battery growth is accelerating too. So, good times unless you own a coal plant.
@@tolpacourt Probably an expression used to describe limiting output of power generator to the grid. Electric grid is not elastic. Inputs must at all time match outputs or you'll get voltage going out of tolerance. This is why if there's an overabundance of input, you have to either decrease it or increase output. With batteries one blunts peaks and troughs of solar. Too much power? Fill the battery. To little power? Drain the battery.
The review of the Australian power issue is very ill informed. The tesla installs are only in SA. Our power system issues are actually the opposite, we had over engineered distribution systems set up in the 80s and 90s for a population demand that didn't account for energy efficiency. The solar issue conversely is an issue of frequency synchronization, not oversupply leading to baseload shutdown. We have buckets of baseload, just not enough peak supply.
This and the Telsa payout story aren't great this time. There's a couple of stories over the last few weeks where they should have spent another 10 minutes looking at it, but that's not that easy with so many stories.
28:15 don't forget you don't need a microphone, specifically. All speakers are essentially microphones too. Even flat surfaces that reflect or amplify sound can do this, and even lasers can record vibrations of other materials from sound waves. Not only that, but Wifi signals can be used as radar too.
After the exploding pager thing I will never be buying anything I can’t easily disassemble from a U.S. company or one of its global puppets, including here. I don’t really understand why anyone would when it could have a bomb in it. And as regards back doors; I remember the levels of smug satisfaction when John Deer used their back door to shut their tractors etc. in a Moscow showroom down and remember thinking that back door won’t be misused. I think in USA it is a common brand of tractor etc. if every farm with John Deer vehicles stopped working would there be enough food… seems like a big security risk and not where anyone should want a back door. Like backdooring the F35 or the M1 Abrams tank.
Just to note, as an Aussie in regards to Solar, it has been marketed for decades for hot water systems. If you have a house built within the last 30 years, you most likely have solar powered hot water system at absolute minimum. The way the system is generally done for the winter is you flick a switch and then the hot water gets heated by power from the grid. So when you say Australians have been sold batteries, it actually solves a big portion of our issue. With Hot Water Systems powered by solar, the solar heats the water and that is basically stored. Batteries are basically just this exact same mechanism for the rest of the house. The part that Im unsure about is how fast the turnover is from battery back to the grid. Our family home on the farm, we had a big generator for when we would lose power for 4-5 days. However we would swap it over when there is a loss in power. Im unsure if when you swap it, you actually lose power for a fraction of a second. If not, then this isnt an issue and should be implemented for houses assuming its safe. If there is, then I assume there will need to be some intermediary, heck even if its possibly a small battery in between the big battery or the grid, as sort of a buffer. Maybe? I dont know, not an electrical engineer. The idea from that standpoint seems straight forward. I havent checked the marketing because the new issue now is how this will be solved for people in apartments. Houses its cut and dry. Just have solar, charge your battery, and when you get home, flick it over to the battery and run it til its like 5%, then swap back to the grid, or have an auto swap over. And to be honest, it doesnt feel like we are that far away from that.
> The part that Im unsure about is how fast the turnover is from battery back to the grid. This was the case until recently, but you can now get systems that switch fast enough for the computers to stay on. There are some considerations for properly isolating the house so you don't fry someone working on the lines, but I think that's now pretty well sorted.
Australia has one the of most gold plated generation and networked power system on the planet. The regulatory system created incentives to over capitalise the network. Which allowed them to raise prices higher then the rest of OPEC. Consequently when solar, and later batteries, became a thing the most wealthiest of our society quickly jumped over. This just made centralised power more expense because it reduced the install base. Which then made the business case for more customers to switch to solar. Which made the network more expensive.... Which raised prices which made more customers switch. A positive feedback loop that was described in government studies in thr 1980s. Which is why most of our state governments sold our generators. Which only lead to higher prices........
Australian, my state (Queensland) just changed from labour to liberal government. They canned the pumped hydro project which was going to use this excess solar. The larger battery bank is in South Australia, a different state, it’s added a lot a stability to their grid allowing slower ramp up generation time to come online
For Australia's excess solar power situation, why don't they just use the extra power to produce hydrogen/oxygen or desalinate water or anything useful? Seems like there are always uses for extra power during surge times.
I don't know if this applies to all Libraries in the US or not, but at my school (A large BIG 10 University) and at some other libraries that are a Federal Repository Library, one of the things available there is access to scholarly paywalled sources.
I worked at an office where the pizza place wouldn't deliver, because it's a bad neighborhood. The pizza place you could literally see across the street out the window of the office building.
2:50 Backpage was actively cooperating with the feds and reporting that activity unprompted. They legit got slandered because former DA and VP K wanted a career boost.
Guys we get 2 parts of nothing for our solar power in Australia already that we push back into the grid, I get like 5 cents AUD per KWH and they charge me over 50 cents to buy it back.
Yep! It's an absolute scam We pay for the system We provide energy for the system They take that energy with No haggle, no option to bump it up, and then charge you 10x as much to buy back that same energy you just fed the system It's a farken Scam, this country either gets it's sh!t together or im selling us out to the Lowest Bidder. Yes I'm deadset, this country is farken worthless, TBF, the entire world is run by worthless, greedy, selfish khunts. The civil unrest is growing in the western world, can only hope it breeds here even harder Not many options available when it gets too bad Civil unrest leads to the following Coup de tat's Civil War Assassinations They have brought it on themselves Deadset, lowest bidder, the first country to offer 3 pennies and a soggy packet of Winnie blues is getting All the info
And in addition to that, you are taxed double, on the sale and on the purchase. (in europe) Unless you invest in some batteries or "powerwalls", you will be SOL and taking a huge loss on your solar panel investment.
I think Google is making TH-cam worse quality for those on firefox or with uBO installed. It's just TH-cam that's very laggy unresponsive and even wrong clicks.
What the FTC's 'unlawful use of data location' really means, is that it's totally legal to sell it to the government, because they are the law, but not to anyone else. Government needs to be sued for bypassing 4th amendment rights.
Australia, Please don't do what Eskom in RSA did by getting rid of the peak time power stations. You will ruin you grid and if the power is off long enough the theft will begin.
For an outlay of $6,000 for solar panels (in Perth, Western Australia), I haven't paid an electric bill in 2 years. I even get paid a little by the electric company for feeding electricity back into the grid! 😉
I don't have solar here in Australia but my power company gives me free unmetered power from 1100-1400 every day, i enjoy it. I turn everything on and heat/cool the house as much as I can. It would be to help flatten out the duck curve during peak solar.
Battery storage is not a viable answer to anything more than smoothing minor peaks in electrical supply and demand. What they really need is some sort of major manufacturing that can scale with peak output. I recall a new electricity based ammonia production process is in the works which would be great as their is massive worldwide demand for ammonia and it is fairly easy to transport. Even useful as a fuel for the bulk transport ships similar to how LNG tankers use the boil-off from the cryotanks to supplement the main engine fuel.
Something for people to think about: Is all of this newfound worry about encryption in communications, secure infrastructure, and steps against mass surveillance and surveillance state, really have to do with China, Russia and recent cyberwarfare happenings, whereas this has never been much of an issue for government in the past.... Or this is really about a new vindictive government that is replacing all areas of administration and has no shame in stating they will persecute past government and justice who dared going against it's supreme leader, with potential for using all this undue power that justice and government has given itself to make political witch hunts or worse, because it will have absolute power to do so and go unpunished as all branches of government gets filled with sycophants from the same party? Honestly? I personally think this all has much more to do with the latter than the former. Obviously, it also has to do with the former, which is a convenient strawman to give, but much much more to do with the latter. Much like it's also a convenient strawmen to use to justify a trade war, or tariffs imposed on people. People in the privacy and security communities are tired of saying and tired of knowing - the problem with privacy erosion is an unbalance of power. If you give justice, government and/or intelligence agencies power enough over people that they can just have any private information they want at the reach of an internal search engine of dossiers, that's a single step away from a totalitarian dictatorship, and no step away from abuse of power. All that to say, regarding the current administration, in so many things - too little too late.
The only time that should be used by computers at a system level is international atomic time. The only use of UTC, gps, or local times-zones[etc] should be a simple offset applied to the displayed value.
The EU forced various EU countries to allow balcony solar, which basically ships as a kit you hang over the balcony rail and run a plug to a regular socket. Many come with batteries. Yes, people are annoyed with artifically high electricity costs, they buy and install such kits. They are around 800 euros with no battery storage for 2x400w panels, balcony mounts, cabling, inverter etc. More or less depending on the kit vendor and battery solution. You need basic DIY ability, that's all. Of course various countries have lobbies who argue for overly complicated compliance where you need to pay a 'professional', rather than the 'it just an appliance' approach. Now, whole house solar is another ball game. Is it really that expensive in the US for a roof based installation on a deteched house? Seems the US doesn't want people to have the option of solar panels or EVs, given the recent 100% tarriffs. There must be some US made options? Roof solar is much more expensive, but many times larger and can feed into EV charging or electrical heating via a heatpump. However, natrual gas prices in the US are supposed to go to next to zero, so there is often little financial sense if natrual gas costs so little relavtive to solar.
Don't invest in solar just yet. Wait for quantum dot to be implemented. Yup it's not just for your screens. Doing so will boost the theoretical limit to solar cells energy conversion from about 30% to max 66%
Eh you are a little off about why we have solar down here, the state of our grid, what Musk did (and why), what is happening and the overall quality of our supply. You are right about the oversupply causing issues during the day. And you are right it has been a market response mainly, although governments and the private sector are mobilsiing many large battery projects in recent times to buy low in the day and sell high in the peak evening period, which will slowly hasten the demise of coal power.
11:20: Doesn't matter if they were impossible, it matters how it was handled. I would also argue that the company itself would also be doing well without Musk, most of his influence on Tesla is hype that is not truly sustainable long-term, but for short-term it's "fine". Another issue is how this package devalues existing stock. And it also doesn't make sense that his pay package is that large for it.
And Delaware is a good place for shareholders to have it incorporated as it has a pretty good, speedy court system with judges that are knowledgeable on corporate laws. Please research the topic a little before making comments like this with such a large audience.
Lots of misinformation this episode. Clearly didn't read the stories and filling in the gaps. Further you guys need to read more on SALT TYPHOON before opining.
18:35 Just a correction: it's not the number of Powerwalls deployed. Quite the opposite. It's the volume of solar panels deployed *without* a battery. A major part of the problem is that (most) rooftop systems don't have the ability to be curtailed. This is slowly changing, but it will take 20+ years for this to rinse through the system. So during the day when no one's home and their panels are pumping their entire output into the grid, it is utility solar and wind that take the brunt of curtailment. Nowadays utility solar and wind projectes are increasingly required to include some amount of storage, in order to be approved. There's talk of shifting consumer incentives for solar towards home batteries too, which should help. Some figures for you: We now have around 4m rooftop PV systems. That's with a population of 27m. 1 in 4 houses, or something like that. We've installed 30k home battiers in the 2024 H1, average size is 12-13kWh AFAIK. Both PV and home battery growth is accelerating too. So, good times unless you own a coal plant.
curtailed?
@@tolpacourt Probably an expression used to describe limiting output of power generator to the grid. Electric grid is not elastic. Inputs must at all time match outputs or you'll get voltage going out of tolerance. This is why if there's an overabundance of input, you have to either decrease it or increase output.
With batteries one blunts peaks and troughs of solar. Too much power? Fill the battery. To little power? Drain the battery.
They could do the sand thermal batteries, put that energy in heating silos of sand. Temporary and cheap.
@@andrej-ota It's like having a balancing capacitor on a PCB circuit but at super scale.
The review of the Australian power issue is very ill informed. The tesla installs are only in SA. Our power system issues are actually the opposite, we had over engineered distribution systems set up in the 80s and 90s for a population demand that didn't account for energy efficiency. The solar issue conversely is an issue of frequency synchronization, not oversupply leading to baseload shutdown. We have buckets of baseload, just not enough peak supply.
There is a Tesla battery in Victoria.
'Thanks Elon' for a week of toxic smoke that blew over Geelong after it caught on fire.
This and the Telsa payout story aren't great this time. There's a couple of stories over the last few weeks where they should have spent another 10 minutes looking at it, but that's not that easy with so many stories.
All those things we talked about way back then in HAK5 are all coming true.
Man, what a time to be alive.
28:15 don't forget you don't need a microphone, specifically. All speakers are essentially microphones too. Even flat surfaces that reflect or amplify sound can do this, and even lasers can record vibrations of other materials from sound waves. Not only that, but Wifi signals can be used as radar too.
OMG cable, shout out to Hak5. Watching their stuff got me into tech way back when.
welcome you back. I missed you guys.
21:58 Ryan with the ice cube lyrics 😂
6:14 Wendells laugh is how I feel reading the news pretty much every day now.
After the exploding pager thing I will never be buying anything I can’t easily disassemble from a U.S. company or one of its global puppets, including here. I don’t really understand why anyone would when it could have a bomb in it. And as regards back doors; I remember the levels of smug satisfaction when John Deer used their back door to shut their tractors etc. in a Moscow showroom down and remember thinking that back door won’t be misused. I think in USA it is a common brand of tractor etc. if every farm with John Deer vehicles stopped working would there be enough food… seems like a big security risk and not where anyone should want a back door. Like backdooring the F35 or the M1 Abrams tank.
Just to note, as an Aussie in regards to Solar, it has been marketed for decades for hot water systems. If you have a house built within the last 30 years, you most likely have solar powered hot water system at absolute minimum. The way the system is generally done for the winter is you flick a switch and then the hot water gets heated by power from the grid.
So when you say Australians have been sold batteries, it actually solves a big portion of our issue. With Hot Water Systems powered by solar, the solar heats the water and that is basically stored. Batteries are basically just this exact same mechanism for the rest of the house.
The part that Im unsure about is how fast the turnover is from battery back to the grid. Our family home on the farm, we had a big generator for when we would lose power for 4-5 days. However we would swap it over when there is a loss in power. Im unsure if when you swap it, you actually lose power for a fraction of a second. If not, then this isnt an issue and should be implemented for houses assuming its safe. If there is, then I assume there will need to be some intermediary, heck even if its possibly a small battery in between the big battery or the grid, as sort of a buffer. Maybe? I dont know, not an electrical engineer.
The idea from that standpoint seems straight forward. I havent checked the marketing because the new issue now is how this will be solved for people in apartments. Houses its cut and dry. Just have solar, charge your battery, and when you get home, flick it over to the battery and run it til its like 5%, then swap back to the grid, or have an auto swap over. And to be honest, it doesnt feel like we are that far away from that.
> The part that Im unsure about is how fast the turnover is from battery back to the grid.
This was the case until recently, but you can now get systems that switch fast enough for the computers to stay on. There are some considerations for properly isolating the house so you don't fry someone working on the lines, but I think that's now pretty well sorted.
Solar hot water is a purely thermal collection system that doesn't involve photovoltaics.
Australia has one the of most gold plated generation and networked power system on the planet.
The regulatory system created incentives to over capitalise the network.
Which allowed them to raise prices higher then the rest of OPEC.
Consequently when solar, and later batteries, became a thing the most wealthiest of our society quickly jumped over. This just made centralised power more expense because it reduced the install base.
Which then made the business case for more customers to switch to solar.
Which made the network more expensive.... Which raised prices which made more customers switch.
A positive feedback loop that was described in government studies in thr 1980s. Which is why most of our state governments sold our generators. Which only lead to higher prices........
Australian, my state (Queensland) just changed from labour to liberal government. They canned the pumped hydro project which was going to use this excess solar. The larger battery bank is in South Australia, a different state, it’s added a lot a stability to their grid allowing slower ramp up generation time to come online
For Australia's excess solar power situation, why don't they just use the extra power to produce hydrogen/oxygen or desalinate water or anything useful? Seems like there are always uses for extra power during surge times.
Depending on your brand of football, that's a yellow card or a flag for application of logic to government solving a problem! 🙄
I don't know if this applies to all Libraries in the US or not, but at my school (A large BIG 10 University) and at some other libraries that are a Federal Repository Library, one of the things available there is access to scholarly paywalled sources.
Good morning
We do not have too many solar panels, we have single handedly saved the world with our self-imposed punishment...
I worked at an office where the pizza place wouldn't deliver, because it's a bad neighborhood. The pizza place you could literally see across the street out the window of the office building.
2:50 Backpage was actively cooperating with the feds and reporting that activity unprompted. They legit got slandered because former DA and VP K wanted a career boost.
Guys we get 2 parts of nothing for our solar power in Australia already that we push back into the grid, I get like 5 cents AUD per KWH and they charge me over 50 cents to buy it back.
Yep! It's an absolute scam
We pay for the system
We provide energy for the system
They take that energy with No haggle, no option to bump it up, and then charge you 10x as much to buy back that same energy you just fed the system
It's a farken Scam, this country either gets it's sh!t together or im selling us out to the Lowest Bidder.
Yes I'm deadset, this country is farken worthless, TBF, the entire world is run by worthless, greedy, selfish khunts.
The civil unrest is growing in the western world, can only hope it breeds here even harder
Not many options available when it gets too bad
Civil unrest leads to the following
Coup de tat's
Civil War
Assassinations
They have brought it on themselves
Deadset, lowest bidder, the first country to offer 3 pennies and a soggy packet of Winnie blues is getting All the info
And in addition to that, you are taxed double, on the sale and on the purchase. (in europe) Unless you invest in some batteries or "powerwalls", you will be SOL and taking a huge loss on your solar panel investment.
The background is reminiscent of the 'Mystery' ScreenSaver.
I think Google is making TH-cam worse quality for those on firefox or with uBO installed.
It's just TH-cam that's very laggy unresponsive and even wrong clicks.
It's almost like Google wants Chrome to be stripped away from them by demonstrating monopolistic preferential behavior on a global scale!
california's burning, u can get me down today Ryan
What the FTC's 'unlawful use of data location' really means, is that it's totally legal to sell it to the government, because they are the law, but not to anyone else. Government needs to be sued for bypassing 4th amendment rights.
Australia, Please don't do what Eskom in RSA did by getting rid of the peak time power stations. You will ruin you grid and if the power is off long enough the theft will begin.
Have a great week
I too explore the alternate pronunciations of words like epitome and hyperbole. Don't even get me started on rendezvous.
people dont get less money for solar they sometimes have to pay for exporting the power
For an outlay of $6,000 for solar panels (in Perth, Western Australia), I haven't paid an electric bill in 2 years. I even get paid a little by the electric company for feeding electricity back into the grid! 😉
What setup do you have and where did you but the hardware?
I don't have solar here in Australia but my power company gives me free unmetered power from 1100-1400 every day, i enjoy it. I turn everything on and heat/cool the house as much as I can. It would be to help flatten out the duck curve during peak solar.
Battery storage is not a viable answer to anything more than smoothing minor peaks in electrical supply and demand. What they really need is some sort of major manufacturing that can scale with peak output. I recall a new electricity based ammonia production process is in the works which would be great as their is massive worldwide demand for ammonia and it is fairly easy to transport. Even useful as a fuel for the bulk transport ships similar to how LNG tankers use the boil-off from the cryotanks to supplement the main engine fuel.
I think most folks would agree, whether it's in coding or other kinds of professions out there. The back door is bad. Keep the back doors closed.☠
Something for people to think about:
Is all of this newfound worry about encryption in communications, secure infrastructure, and steps against mass surveillance and surveillance state, really have to do with China, Russia and recent cyberwarfare happenings, whereas this has never been much of an issue for government in the past....
Or this is really about a new vindictive government that is replacing all areas of administration and has no shame in stating they will persecute past government and justice who dared going against it's supreme leader, with potential for using all this undue power that justice and government has given itself to make political witch hunts or worse, because it will have absolute power to do so and go unpunished as all branches of government gets filled with sycophants from the same party?
Honestly? I personally think this all has much more to do with the latter than the former. Obviously, it also has to do with the former, which is a convenient strawman to give, but much much more to do with the latter. Much like it's also a convenient strawmen to use to justify a trade war, or tariffs imposed on people.
People in the privacy and security communities are tired of saying and tired of knowing - the problem with privacy erosion is an unbalance of power. If you give justice, government and/or intelligence agencies power enough over people that they can just have any private information they want at the reach of an internal search engine of dossiers, that's a single step away from a totalitarian dictatorship, and no step away from abuse of power.
All that to say, regarding the current administration, in so many things - too little too late.
14 seconds after the video drop. Morning everyone.
Yay!
You should use excess solar to make hydrogen which can be stored and distributed using existing LNG networks. Just a thought. Be well.
We need a Level1Techs WhatsApp Channel
The only time that should be used by computers at a system level is international atomic time. The only use of UTC, gps, or local times-zones[etc] should be a simple offset applied to the displayed value.
Its anti money.
is google spying on what you say at all times count as a back door?
The episode where Wendell brings up Backpage.
I didn't know that i knew the home alone house
Wondered why everyone was talking so slow and then I realised the playback speed had reset to 1.0 from 1.75 😆
The EU forced various EU countries to allow balcony solar, which basically ships as a kit you hang over the balcony rail and run a plug to a regular socket. Many come with batteries. Yes, people are annoyed with artifically high electricity costs, they buy and install such kits. They are around 800 euros with no battery storage for 2x400w panels, balcony mounts, cabling, inverter etc. More or less depending on the kit vendor and battery solution. You need basic DIY ability, that's all. Of course various countries have lobbies who argue for overly complicated compliance where you need to pay a 'professional', rather than the 'it just an appliance' approach.
Now, whole house solar is another ball game. Is it really that expensive in the US for a roof based installation on a deteched house? Seems the US doesn't want people to have the option of solar panels or EVs, given the recent 100% tarriffs. There must be some US made options? Roof solar is much more expensive, but many times larger and can feed into EV charging or electrical heating via a heatpump. However, natrual gas prices in the US are supposed to go to next to zero, so there is often little financial sense if natrual gas costs so little relavtive to solar.
Monday!!!!!
Tuesday in the UK!!!!!
@@bobgnarley1👍😁
I make cast boolets, and pronounce the material that helps harden lead and ANT-EH-MOAN-EE
13:39 oh, trolling were we? oh ha, ha ha!
;-)
> SSN
When you gonna stop using username as a password?
Don't invest in solar just yet. Wait for quantum dot to be implemented. Yup it's not just for your screens. Doing so will boost the theoretical limit to solar cells energy conversion from about 30% to max 66%
Eh you are a little off about why we have solar down here, the state of our grid, what Musk did (and why), what is happening and the overall quality of our supply.
You are right about the oversupply causing issues during the day. And you are right it has been a market response mainly, although governments and the private sector are mobilsiing many large battery projects in recent times to buy low in the day and sell high in the peak evening period, which will slowly hasten the demise of coal power.
Let's goooo
30:45 5 years ago? Haha, probably more like 20 years. And cables betraying you is an ancient problem, look up the TEMPEST stuff :P
Ryan is off base with the pronunciation of antimony. I don't know where he got that.
Is Krista mirroring Wendell's body language, or is Wendell imitating hers , also Ryan's eye sight is getting worse 😢
She has to poop
I see Wendell has a Bob bias... Bob, if your reading this I am truly sorry...
I think its Anti-money... :P
Apple uses proprietary communication methods to deliver data over the power lines…
Woot!
I comment. I engage.
1:10 starting off with the legitimately misinformed take
Tom Lehrer FTW
Mm war chalking
🎉
11:20: Doesn't matter if they were impossible, it matters how it was handled. I would also argue that the company itself would also be doing well without Musk, most of his influence on Tesla is hype that is not truly sustainable long-term, but for short-term it's "fine". Another issue is how this package devalues existing stock.
And it also doesn't make sense that his pay package is that large for it.
And Delaware is a good place for shareholders to have it incorporated as it has a pretty good, speedy court system with judges that are knowledgeable on corporate laws.
Please research the topic a little before making comments like this with such a large audience.
TH E HOME ALONE HOUSE
OMG X 5
#227. For the algorithm 😊
How is the creepy guy always so ill informed on anything but paranoia issues?
Lots of misinformation this episode. Clearly didn't read the stories and filling in the gaps. Further you guys need to read more on SALT TYPHOON before opining.
You do know that building a back door in the context of adult content .... has a different ring to it...
This is the doomiest of the episodes in awhile.
Maybe Australia should make some hydrogen
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