The canopy reflections seem to be way over-modeled. Being 2D graphics they interfere with vison because you can't focus past them like you can do with real canopy reflections in daylight.
Yeah, the Su-25T actually has similar problems, its a render issue, causing the effect to be too strong, hope they'll correct it (and on the Su-25T looking at you ED!)
Surprisingly harsh opinion on this one. It looked fantastic from the pre-release trailers and the internal pit looks much better than most other mods, save for the big three or four (ie. A4, T45, UH60L). It seems like a commendable effort that is still fairly early in its life cycle. I'd give it some time to mature...
It's a little because the textures are fairly flat, but larger part because of canopy reflections and hud visibility not being great. It's a good start, given time I'm excited to see what they develop it into!
Unfortunately DCS WORLD lacks of a solid russian 4 + aircraft. There is too much western jets available and I have lots of them, but a it would be nice to have a solid red counterpart for the blue side. :)
The Russian Government told them to stop when they were making a full fidelity model. May have been the mig-29 or even the flankers I cant remember exactly
To be fair there are no US 4+ gen as well - this would be Superhornet, F-15EX, maybe F-16 Block 70. US aircrafts we have like F-16C, F/A-18C, AH-64D etc. are mostly phased out or modernised today, in DCS we have 20 years old 2004-2006 legacy versions of originally 1980s aircrafts. US 4+ gen are classified all over the world and they won't be modeled in any realistic way. For RED side we even are having problems to have permission to model full fidelity 1982 MIG-29 9.12 from the Soviet Union.
I really would love one, but i think that hope was dashed a while back, they were just exploring their options and practicality, it hit a roadblock. Hopefully that'll be reduced to a speed-bump one day. Either way can't wait for Deka's next module.
mkk would be highly unlikely while they're still in service with the PLAAF and PLANAF, but I wonder if a MKV (vietnamese variant which is fairly close to MKK, just without the possible complications of angering the Chinese military) would be worth considering
@@qwerty85620 I rate Deka among the best of DCS third parties. Their jf-17 has features other jets still don't have like; canopy fog, canopy icing, external mfd changes, TGP focus, custom IFF simulation and DTC in the special options.
I have noticed with this mod, when in VR, sitting in the back seat is rather obscure and you have to reposition your self physically to get yourself to the right position.
Great video but I have a question : I have dcs su 33 on steam but i can't play with su 30mk why ? even tho i don't have fc3 ! Please any help ?I liked the video
so when i try to download the mod using your link, it says to many people have downloaded the mod, then when i try to get by that and create a copy of the file it says there was an error trieing to copy it
I don't believe so, the makers are planning on adding some keyboard controls, but i'd highly suggest you pick up a cheap hotas or even just use a xbox/playstation gamepad, i can't state just how much better, even that will be over a keyboard.
On the left panel in the cockpit under the thrust control, you have the button for it to on/off make working "supermaneuverability", then you have to set the button on the joystick for on/off "supermaneuverability" key "S" on keyboard, also he is on the stick in kokpit ;)
I have the SU33 and I downloaded this mod su30 and I put it in the Saved games/DCS/aircraft/.open beta/ … but it is disabled when I start the game. Could anyone help with that please?
On the left panel in the cockpit under the thrust control, you have the button for it to on/off make working "supermaneuverability", then you have to set the button on the joystick for on/off "supermaneuverability" key "S" on keyboard, also he is on the stick in kokpit ;)
They perform similarly to the SD-10. The R-77-1 is a bit worse, but still pretty mich equal to the AIM-120C. I wouldnt use the R-77M, since it is not in service anywhere and purely based on fantasy. Though if you want some extremely long range point and click, you can, i guess.
Hi, I’m curious about is there anyone who use this mod met the problem of : the kh31 series (new texture ver , not the original ver from game) cannot ignite its ramjet engine ?
I belive the Su-30 MKI model has access to a different selection of weapons in addition to the normal complement, aka Brahmos, Astra, and Spice-2000(TBA)
I am getting a rtx 3060ti with 16 gb 4th gen ram.as well as a ryzen 3700x with a 512 ssd.will that be enough to run this game on high setting on single player and should it run better with the vulkan api that is coming?
Very bad representation of control surface movement in these games. Flanker,Lightning 2,Eurofighter are unstable and have balancing work (Su27,Su47) or at least catching pitch like F16,F22,F35,Eurofighter,
This one's a mod, so it'll not be that accurate. The Other aircraft, like the paid for F/A-18C or F-16c have not only highly accurate FCS simulation, but in many cases direct information from the real aircraft applied to it's logic.
The canopy reflections seem to be way over-modeled. Being 2D graphics they interfere with vison because you can't focus past them like you can do with real canopy reflections in daylight.
Yeah, the Su-25T actually has similar problems, its a render issue, causing the effect to be too strong, hope they'll correct it (and on the Su-25T looking at you ED!)
@@RedKiteRender ya Issue will be fixed
I would kill for a full fidelity flanker…
Go ahead
@@ban5176 what’s your address?
@@afatcatfromsweden Earth, Europe, Poland... I mean clickable able able DCS mod is everything
Thanks for the review Mr Kite.
3:12 The missile doesn't know where it is
Thank you, looks like a great time.
Good and honest review. Thanks RedKite!
Wow, that's a lot of shade!
Isn't this how most free mods are built, it can never be a legit bespokr aircraft?
I really liked the mod, but if you have to improve the flight system, those rails sometimes make the plane move very strange
I'm sure once they've developed their EFM to a ready state it'll improve massively, just will be a bit of a wait I'm betting.
I just hope the plane would stop bouncing, thats the only thing preventing me from enjoying the mod.
@redkite , amazing video thank you for your job !
Surprisingly harsh opinion on this one. It looked fantastic from the pre-release trailers and the internal pit looks much better than most other mods, save for the big three or four (ie. A4, T45, UH60L). It seems like a commendable effort that is still fairly early in its life cycle. I'd give it some time to mature...
It's a little because the textures are fairly flat, but larger part because of canopy reflections and hud visibility not being great. It's a good start, given time I'm excited to see what they develop it into!
@@RedKiteRender Well it's a pretty recent airframe IRL too, textures don't need to be scratched all the time to mimic reality !
@@Tiltrotor86 Su-30MKI has been in service for 20 years :)
Wobbly it is rly wobbly it only need a few patches and it would be great to fly as it is
Unfortunately DCS WORLD lacks of a solid russian 4 + aircraft. There is too much western jets available and I have lots of them, but a it would be nice to have a solid red counterpart for the blue side. :)
Amen, Trouble is Russia wont let us have them simulated, same with the RAF :(
@@RedKiteRender Oh no. Too bad 😔
The Russian Government told them to stop when they were making a full fidelity model. May have been the mig-29 or even the flankers I cant remember exactly
To be fair there are no US 4+ gen as well - this would be Superhornet, F-15EX, maybe F-16 Block 70.
US aircrafts we have like F-16C, F/A-18C, AH-64D etc. are mostly phased out or modernised today, in DCS we have 20 years old 2004-2006 legacy versions of originally 1980s aircrafts.
US 4+ gen are classified all over the world and they won't be modeled in any realistic way.
For RED side we even are having problems to have permission to model full fidelity 1982 MIG-29 9.12 from the Soviet Union.
i love to play with this monster on multiplayer server's especially su-35 its very cool
I downloaded it but when i lunch the plane my DCS crashes each time i load this airplane, any solutions ?
Thank you in advance
4:43 We might can get a Su-30MKK from Deka Ironworks
Nope not happening they dropped it long ago because of lack of documentation
I really would love one, but i think that hope was dashed a while back, they were just exploring their options and practicality, it hit a roadblock. Hopefully that'll be reduced to a speed-bump one day. Either way can't wait for Deka's next module.
mkk would be highly unlikely while they're still in service with the PLAAF and PLANAF, but I wonder if a MKV (vietnamese variant which is fairly close to MKK, just without the possible complications of angering the Chinese military) would be worth considering
@@qwerty85620 I rate Deka among the best of DCS third parties. Their jf-17 has features other jets still don't have like; canopy fog, canopy icing, external mfd changes, TGP focus, custom IFF simulation and DTC in the special options.
@@qwerty85620 Look IF anyone can make modern day simulation of a Jet, then its Deka!
I guess.. no chance to see a Thales HUD and NAVFLIR in the MKM
I have noticed with this mod, when in VR, sitting in the back seat is rather obscure and you have to reposition your self physically to get yourself to the right position.
there are binds for moving the camera in VR on each plane
THIS IS SO AWESOME!!
AMAZING ! this Airplain need to be a study airplain to buy ! :) or the su-35 i will buy them .
That canopy visibility blockage really messes it up for me, I wasn't clear from the introduction, is there a 1 seater?
any link or video about countermeasures?
Great video but I have a question : I have dcs su 33 on steam but i can't play with su 30mk why ? even tho i don't have fc3 ! Please any help ?I liked the video
so when i try to download the mod using your link, it says to many people have downloaded the mod, then when i try to get by that and create a copy of the file it says there was an error trieing to copy it
same as you can't download it :(
it's possible to fly this mod with keyboard and not joystick ?
I don't believe so, the makers are planning on adding some keyboard controls, but i'd highly suggest you pick up a cheap hotas or even just use a xbox/playstation gamepad, i can't state just how much better, even that will be over a keyboard.
Please note that DCS is simulator, not arcade game. Even cheapest joystick (not to metion HOTAS) will make a huge difference compared to keyboard.
@@RedKiteRenderok tanks not problem ahah i have a thrustmaster of airbus but i difficult to use on dcs world becouse you can't chance visual
It's the thigh gap of aviation.
LOL
Do SU30 vs F15
how do I enable the canards?
It's a specific model, from what i know 30SM has it
none of the versions in the mod work with TVC for me, should it? I'm using the cobra button
On the left panel in the cockpit under the thrust control, you have the button for it to on/off make working "supermaneuverability", then you have to set the button on the joystick for on/off "supermaneuverability" key "S" on keyboard, also he is on the stick in kokpit ;)
I have the SU33 and I downloaded this mod su30 and I put it in the Saved games/DCS/aircraft/.open beta/ … but it is disabled when I start the game. Could anyone help with that please?
How do you turn on the thrust vectoring? I have the mod but I can't seem to figure that out
On the left panel in the cockpit under the thrust control, you have the button for it to on/off make working "supermaneuverability", then you have to set the button on the joystick for on/off "supermaneuverability" key "S" on keyboard, also he is on the stick in kokpit ;)
Help me play Flaming Cliffs 3 on Win 10!!
Will this work just with the Su-33 module and not fcs?
Yep, Su-33 or FC3 (or Supercarrier actually! as it includes the Su-33) is needed for the A-A version. A-G version is playable for free.
For me i cant enable thrust vectoring, can anyone help?
What about the new Astra missiles?
Are they good
They perform similarly to the SD-10. The R-77-1 is a bit worse, but still pretty mich equal to the AIM-120C. I wouldnt use the R-77M, since it is not in service anywhere and purely based on fantasy. Though if you want some extremely long range point and click, you can, i guess.
How can you use the back seat?
9 and 0 jump between the seats
Now, if you can only find servers that have the mod. It doesn’t pass IC.
Hi ! I have su 33 but I still can't able to play with the su 30 ! Please can you help me ? I aslo don't have fc3 .
You need fc3. Or like he said, the AG Su-30 version is fully free. Although I'm not sure if you still need fc3 for the air to ground version.
Hi, I’m curious about is there anyone who use this mod met the problem of : the kh31 series (new texture ver , not the original ver from game) cannot ignite its ramjet engine ?
will we see this in the growling side winder server? xd
Is it real thrust vectoring?
Yeah a couple buttons need to be pushed
As usual, nowhere to download the SU-30 mod
As usual, read the description; Try their discord link. I can't keep updating the download link, so go to the source and get it.
I belive the Su-30 MKI model has access to a different selection of weapons in addition to the normal complement, aka Brahmos, Astra, and Spice-2000(TBA)
Can you do a Cobra in this
Yup
Amazing amazing mod good
#crazyrussianpilot :-> TOP Video great Job 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
Trust vectoring not working on the mod atm
Personally i find little use or fun from eye-candy mods. No engine modeling, no unique aerodynamics, no authentic sensors or avionics......
I have a lot of these mods but only use them as ai.
@@agggrgrg2419 same here! i simply play ace combat when i need my 5th gen eye candy fix lol
I am getting a rtx 3060ti with 16 gb 4th gen ram.as well as a ryzen 3700x with a 512 ssd.will that be enough to run this game on high setting on single player and should it run better with the vulkan api that is coming?
Who cares your specs
it will work
SFM
wow just pure negativitiy coming our for a free mod ,i dont think it is good.
Very bad representation of control surface movement in these games. Flanker,Lightning 2,Eurofighter are unstable and have balancing work (Su27,Su47) or at least catching pitch like F16,F22,F35,Eurofighter,
This one's a mod, so it'll not be that accurate. The Other aircraft, like the paid for F/A-18C or F-16c have not only highly accurate FCS simulation, but in many cases direct information from the real aircraft applied to it's logic.
I love the Russians airforce, viable only in video games.
SUPER SUKHOI SU - 30 SM 2 FLANKER FIGHTER JET 🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺 💪🔥💪🔥