Interesting view here. Most data does suggest Premieres hurt video performance, but you tested it on what was potentially the best gaming video made in years - this is a good proof of what Premieres are capable of
All they have to do to fix the view count issue is figure out how to handle notifications and recommendations better. It's a difficult problem, but I doubt it's unsolvable.
Only got the notification for both premieres when they were over. Subbed. Notification bell is on, for everything, push notifications enabled = about 17 minutes delay
Notifications are annoying to me, I have ALL notifications disabled. If I like a channel enough to want to watch every video I will periodically check their channel on my own. Because why the fuck would you care about watching every video right as it is released anyway
I honestly LOVED the premiere. It was a unique and fun experience and the video was a perfect choice for a premiere. After the premiere I watched the video again and it almost felt lonely, but I was able to see a few things I missed from being distracted by chat. I definitely would be fine with more premieres. I don't see them as delaying a video, but more as double the excitement - first you hear about it and get hyped up for the video and then it gets released meaning you get maximum anticipation for the video instead of just watching it and forgetting about it afterwards. Great video!
The thing I dislike most about TH-cam premieres is how they appear on your feed. It just feels wrong to look through the feed for a video to watch and then see an icon that's basically telling you to come back later for a video. Maybe they could put premieres on a small row above subscriptions based on when they air (obviously letting you hide it if you want). If you could disable notifications of premieres from specific people it'd be nice too. Most of the people I see complaining seem to be just angry about something being new. How dare you innovate!
I feel like the video also did extremely well because of it's topic and the interest it gathered, not just the premier. I think premier *_CAN_* work for odd occasions and well polished videos but not the standard video.
It was a very well crafted video, it kept my attention and was very entertaining throughout. Overall I enjoyed the premiere as you put a clear effort to make it for live viewing, some creators just put a video clearly not tailored to live viewing and I disliked the premiere function because of that. This'll definitely make me look out for your next premiere.
I would do premiere. I dont see anything wrong with it. Its basically a normal video after the live part is through. Plus you get to chat with your viewers. And get some donations.
I personally think you do a good job of trying to interact with your viewers despite the size of you and your brother's channels. Hell, I myself have gotten a heart, and replies from you before, and on the Skyrim video itself we had a lovely brief chat about how I felt about it and your take on it. I absolutely appreciate your willingness to converse! :)
Philip shows the numbers and, I dunno, the psychology?, of being a TH-camr, and you don't see that in many places. I always want to show my support for this dude!
I loved it, as I said it even made me donate on TH-cam for the first time. You can do premier for normal videos where early subscribers get to view it together and then it's a normal video.
Cool. Thanks for the breakdown. I personally don't like premieres because I come to TH-cam to watch videos on demand. That is, after all, what TH-cam's built on. Sure I might click on a video that's premiering when I load my subscriptions page, but I really don't care enough about most of my subscriptions to schedule my day around TH-cam premieres. Sad to say, you belonged in that category despite me being informed about your premiere. But thanks again for sharing the experience. The fact that TH-cam live chat boosts your comments statistic is fascinating and probably helps boost its recommendation rate.
Sadly, due to the premiere time of the video I wasn't able to watch it live. I would've really liked to watch the video live with everyone else. Regardless though, I found the video to be a masterpiece and really did enjoy it. Thank you Philip for creating this video, have been a long time subscriber. Not sure if you'd remember, but you included me in "How will he die? Episode 29". My TH-cam name at the time was "GoldenHawk". I can imagine how difficult it would be now to create such a video nowadays, even back then you were saying about the amount of comments. :P
THe thing about premieres is that it shows up i nyour subbox, you think you have a cool new video to watch but nope, You have to wait X ammount of time to b able to watch it. It also removes the video from your sub box after the video is done. Im not that big of a fan of "live" content so this bothers me alot.
@@saltcrackerstudio3407 Im aware, As I said the problem i have is that it appears in the sub box, Id be fine if it was a community post or something like that becuase i can filter that out, WHat I have a problem with is that its being disguised as a video I can watch now
@@Ebbylina I definitely think this is more of a problem with the presentation than the feature itself. I get where you're coming from, but I think if TH-cam just showed it in a different manner, even in your subscription page but off to the side or something, and looking distinct from a typical TH-cam video thumbnail, that feeling of being cheated would go away, or at least lessen.
I did not get to watch the video live, but i was aware that it was happening, seeing as you made a video about it. I got to watch it about half an hour later, and i really enjoyed the video. I could sort of feel the differences from what would have been a normal video that you pointed out as well. Feels bad that i was not notified, or i would probably have taken a pause from homework in order to tune in.
I've seen a lot of channels trying to premiere completely regular videos onto their channel. Here, the premiere makes something seem special when really there's nothing special about it. However, your method of going about this is perfect. A lot more content creators should take the same steps as you :)
I had a great time watching it live. It helped that the video itself was very entertaining the entire time and is now one of my favourites from you. 😎👍🏻
I adored that video. I planned to watch it but i sadly overslept. Personally the premiere would not bother me, and i was excited for it. I know i would have enjoyed it. I can totally see that interaction being really fun and i hope that you do more of these sorts of videos, and even more premieres. Keep it a special event though! I would love to see more of this style of video in future.
I watched the video live and really enjoyed it. The chat gave me something to do while I waited for the start, but I turned it off as the video started firstly because I watched it on my switch and I would've had to check the chat on my phone and also 'cause I wanted to concentrate on the video. Loved the video and it really made me want to revisit Skyrim (which I did of course). I would love to see more videos released like this!
I loved it. It's like watching a movie with a director and listening to jokes as we watch the premiere of it. It's basically like any TH-cam video afterwards, but for that première you get to be part of the "squad" that watches it as it releases and enjoy it with Philip. I hope we get more premieres in the future.
You're a good man, Phillip, you provided some very good points in the video and the attitude you have towards these new flashy features is the kind we need nowadays.
More TH-camrs should talk like you do about how they plan to make their videos an why the plan to do them that way, so much unnecessary confusion would be avoided that way...
As annoying as it was to see the premiere in my sub box forever and then to miss the live video release, I enjoyed planning my TH-cam experience ahead of time instead of the usual obsessive binge that always makes me feel gross after 3 hours in a row. I also liked the relaxed pace of this video that let you inject more of your personality into the video, and it felt nicer in comparison to your usual constant stream of helpful, succinct information. Reminds me of your Going Low stories and that era of your videos in general. Keep up the good work Phillip!
I love your channel so much, your general observations and insight are always super intriguing, gutted I missed the premiere, but cannot wait for the next x
I agree with both reports on the problem with the feature itself. The video was pinned to the top of my subscribed feed, which was a tad annoying, yet I didnt get any notification when it actually was about to begin. I was prepared by you that it's going to be an experiment, so I didnt think much of it really. Though I didnt catch it live, I was very happy to see you be in pre chat a day before the premier, and just chatting. You're not the type who we can just catch on discord or twitter replies, and talk about stuff. It felt nice. If youre going to do this premier thing again, dont set it to more than like half an hour. Beyond that it gets in the way.
I knew of the premiere but missed it this time around. The video was fantastic. I don’t plan on missing the next one. It seems like a really cool experience.
My biggest issue with Premiere videos is that TH-cam doesn't mark them as watched because it's still handled as a stream even after the premiere finished.
I was really excited about the premiere video. it was really something different watching a fully edited video in live-time rather than a stream. I also think the long countdown isn't bad at all. With this everyone can get notified ahead of time.
I don't know why people would have a problem with youtube premiere beyond it not functioning properly. It's not like the video would come out any sooner or later, you just get to know it's coming. Which is a good thing because there's a lot of youtubers where I actually would like to know more in advance what video is coming out and when so I can have lunch or something alongside it.
Thanks to "Man Vs Skyrim" I knew that you were a good content creator, and the effort reflected on your channels. I've enjoyed very much your videos and it's not easy to truly entertain in these days because of the amount of people trying to promote their stuff and winning more money, that is the objective of many people on youtube at present. But there will allways be good people like you that ignores the ego and trully give an original content like the youtube early days. Cheers and hugs from chile!!
Honestly, the Man VS Skyrim video was great, definitely one of your best videos, I couldn't make it to watch the premiere, but I still enjoyed it a lot when watching regularly.
I personally like the premiere feature, i subscribe to channels for a reason and i look forward to your videos a lot. Whenever they are released i make time to have a snack and watch it. Now that there are premieres i can prepare a snack in advance and im looking forward to maybe sharing a premiere with you!
I didn’t see the premiere, but I thought the video was absolutely great. It kept me watching the whole way through and completely interested the entire time.
I personally really enjoyed the premier experience. I feel a lot of the flaws with its delivery were more on youtube's end than yours. You really did everything you could to make the video as successful as you can, and you certainly succeeded! I really hope you do more of these in the future!
I like the idea of premiere, but I never watch things the day they come out. I'm glad they let us watch it afterwards, plus we could see the comments. Also, it was one of the best videos you've ever made.
I liked it a lot, mainly because of the quality of the video you made. However it was nice that I knew content was coming. I missed the premiere because of work, but I would have watched it live had I the option.
Good onya Philip, I'd love to see you do more of these. People are a little spoiled here on TH-cam, especially on this channel. I hope your next one does better when live.
The reason I skipped the premiere initially, and only watched the video a few days later since I had forgotten about it, is that when watching the premiere, you can't watch it by yourself. The system doesn't really work as just a schedule for a release because of the live aspects, such as pushing the same video to everyone watching at the same time making it so that the video may buffer a lot more than normal, and having the chat slow down your browser since it seems to still be loaded even if you hide it, and you can't skip past the live point. I think they should let people watch the video on the normal page during a premiere in addition to the live experience, which I think should be separate.
personally i dont mind the premiere. it is nice to know when a video will pop up and its fun to watch along with the creator who answers questions and comments about his videos.
With the Skyrim video it only gave me a notification once the premiere had started(thankfully I was already waiting at the time), However with this one it didn't give me a notification at all. I have notifications on for both 2kliksphilip and kliksphilip. Though the Skyrim video premiered at 1:00 PM my time, While this one was around 1:30 AM. Maybe youtube decided not to send me a notification assuming I would be sleeping? Also I couldn't help but look for myself in chat watching this video and I only show up for a split second at 6:20 before you scroll up. Made me chuckle.
just wanna say I've been watching your videos for years and we'll always be here. Your content is really well planned out and made and I appreciate your effort. Hopefully they can implement some changes and make the premiere feature a lot better. I missed the premiere of Man VS Skyrim but of course I watched both lmfao Dude you just make amazing videos, and as long as I'm around you'll have a viewer
Im not a fan of having my notifications clogged up from multiple people over the course of multiple days letting me know a video is coming. I care about a handful of content creators, you included, on youtube. I generally make the rounds to check your channels in case I've missed anything throughout the week, but my use of youtube is to usually scroll down the sub box and select the videos im interested in to watch in bulk. I'm glad ypu enjoyed it, and i might be interested if there was a SEPARATE premier tab that i could flip to to see what's coming. But as it stands, scrolling past announcements of an upcoming video i have no interest in watching live from multiple channels multiple times when im trying to find content to watch now, is frustrating. I'm glad it was a positive experience for you, but until its properly separated from regular videos and something i can look at on its own, because its a completely different way of looking at youtube than how i do now, its only going to be more annoying than a desired feature.
I'm happy your youtube premier was succesful. I've only seen massive negativity about it as well and personally haven't cared much either way, but I see it as a nice new feature. Sadly the announcements appear on mobile much later than the actual release, and I'm not one for keeping a close watch on some video upload schedule. Also I don't think feeling disappointed about the viewcount during premier is correct, how many views do videos usually get in those 15 minutes? Just because it's live doesn't mean it should get a ton more imo. Agree with your view in this video completely. (btw that skyrim video was awesome)
Even though i missed the premiere, i enjoyed the video, and i was so excited to see it (even though i kinda forgot about it in the last 3 hours and arrived late)
I think that the only real issue that most people had was the length of time between the premiere was announced and when it actually aired.. I think that at most it should be 24hours, and ideally 18 or less
Anyone trying to work out what they think about it better do so quickly. That’s the nature of the thing. It was already caught up with trends that seemed too fast to track when it began to become self-aware, decades ago. It has picked up a lot of speed since then. It is old enough to have arrived in waves, which is to say insistently, or recurrently, and each time the challenge is more urgent. Among its predictions is the expectation that you’ll be too slow to deal with it coherently. Yet if you fumble the question it poses - because rushed - you lose, and perhaps quite badly.
I just watch youtube when I feel like it/fill up gaps when I have nothing to do and my friends are ofline. I saw the announcment but I didn't really pay attetion to it. I just decided to watch it when I want to. Furthermore, I must admit that I didn't like premiere before watching this video (that might have affected my interest for coming to watch it during the release). I want to thank you for opening my eyes. I have never watched premiere and I always thought that it just delays the video. Now I feel like it is something I need to try. It could definitely prove to be interesting and entertaining
Just wanted to say that I used to watch you for your CS videos and I'm not subbed to 2kliksphilip, yet I watched Man vs Skyrim since it was in my recommended videos for 2 damn days! It was a great video and I'm glad I saw it but you're probably right that youtube boosts premieres' popularity by counting chat messages as comments.
Watched live, but really didn't chat. My issue was the buffering. I know it is not your fault, but for me every minute or so needed 15 seconds of buffering. Killing the flow, but I must say The entire experience was great. I am not an active community member or anything, just subscribed, Redditt subbed, and make a few YT comments. So when it came to live chat I loved it. I did not really speak, but knowing there were thousands seeing as I am was weird in a good way. wouldn't mind another I had the stream open all 36 hours because I don't turn my desktop off anyways and I figured, why open this tab a second time.
with videos from people i watch regularly, premieres are fine. they're fun, engaging, and i don't mind the wait. with videos i want to watch NOW (news, tutorials, etc.) premieres are the death of all things holy.
woah, i actually had no idea you didn't have a patreon. i'd assume you've got a job or something, else you're some kind of internet mad man at this point
I think it's a great feature and I really enjoyed the Premiere. For both the viewers and the one making the video. You get to see what your viewers thing while watching the video. and the audience gets to watch the video together. Sure the execution of the feature can be improved in different ways as you pointed out, but I'd still rather have the feature in its current state then not have it at all. Also pretty good pronunciation on the word Schadenfreude. I wasn't aware that word got exported from German into other languages.
I don't understand the hate, either. My only guess is how people are annoyed at how it shows up on the top of their subscription list, but even that is just an incredibly minor inconvenience. Now that TH-cam does live streaming, these streams do the same thing showing up on the top of your subscriptions. It's not worth spamming dislikes, I mean come on people. Really though, TH-cam should disallow voting and comment-commenting (not chat commenting) before the video starts, or arguably before it finishes. I wasn't there to watch it live, but it was a great video. And I'm really glad you had these two videos talking about Premier from a creator's point of view. From your perspective, it makes total sense that you would want to engage with the watching community and get that instant feedback to your videos. That gives hindsight as to why TH-camrs might want to do this despite the (perceived) prejudices against the system. It's just that most viewers don't seem to understand that, and see it as their inconvenience to put up with. Again, I don't know why people dislike it so much, it's not like they're pushing Google+ on us again.
I don't actually care about watching with others. I don't care about the chat, as it distracts me from the content. If I find myself reading the chat, means that the content on screen is not good for me have my full attention. In a youtube video, there are no downtimes where you can read the chat and see what people are saying, which is unlike twitch streams and/or live sporting/esporting events. I also like watching videos at my own time, that is why I never(seldom) use notifications bell. I guess the benefit of the premiere videos are only creator sided. They can see the chat and get live reactions from the audience. From my, the audiences view, I don't see it as adding anything, but it is also not taking anything away, so I'm fine.
You are really onto something with the "no downtime for the chat" part! Maybe the "how do you feel" buttons, Philip suggested would be a better option. It would allow you to express your reaction live, without taking away from the viewing experience.
you can go fullscreen to hide the chat. that way there is no time spent reading and more time spent watching. if you watch on your own time then what does it matter? the video will be long over when its your own time or wont be up anyway. if for some reason you start while the premier is happening, go watch something with a bit of length and come back later to see the whole thing. the benefits are most certainly not just to one side, the creators get to see what people like and can then improve content using something other than polls. and for the viewer? for those that are not antisocial, you get to talk about something well-made and properly edited with thousands of people while it happens. its like twitch but instead of talking to the creator, you talk to the viewers. i think it is an amazing idea, minus notifications being poorly made.
This video being a premiere that I missed by 14 minutes is strange to me, I wasn't notified of it at all and just stumbled upon it afterwards. I'm not sure if I like the idea of watching videos with extra people on the side, I'd probably just hide chat but I'm glad you had a good time with it! :)
Philip, your first TH-cam Premiere was a success, because you answered my question and now I know that you eat food (sometimes)
nice channel. subbed.
but his digestive system is replaced with his knack for thematic storytelling.
does he tell stories to the food to digest it
Interesting view here. Most data does suggest Premieres hurt video performance, but you tested it on what was potentially the best gaming video made in years - this is a good proof of what Premieres are capable of
All they have to do to fix the view count issue is figure out how to handle notifications and recommendations better. It's a difficult problem, but I doubt it's unsolvable.
8:15 in Chat replay: "in 3 years some one could be reading through this again"
yep
yep
Only got the notification for both premieres when they were over.
Subbed. Notification bell is on, for everything, push notifications enabled = about 17 minutes delay
Yeah it's stupid
Notifications are annoying to me, I have ALL notifications disabled. If I like a channel enough to want to watch every video I will periodically check their channel on my own. Because why the fuck would you care about watching every video right as it is released anyway
@Rogther the only reason I have notifications on is to remind me of some channels I like I may forget.
I honestly LOVED the premiere. It was a unique and fun experience and the video was a perfect choice for a premiere. After the premiere I watched the video again and it almost felt lonely, but I was able to see a few things I missed from being distracted by chat. I definitely would be fine with more premieres. I don't see them as delaying a video, but more as double the excitement - first you hear about it and get hyped up for the video and then it gets released meaning you get maximum anticipation for the video instead of just watching it and forgetting about it afterwards. Great video!
It was amazing my dude
Codion youtube premiere feature is shit for short videos. Unless you're Philip, then it's just okay, transitioning to great.
your avatar kinda reminds me of captain dissilusion's
Gordon Freeman probably because it has letters C and D connected to each other, iunno
Phirenor im sorry you didnt see the sarcasm
@@markellii3093 yeah, like i was even remotely serious :P
The thing I dislike most about TH-cam premieres is how they appear on your feed. It just feels wrong to look through the feed for a video to watch and then see an icon that's basically telling you to come back later for a video. Maybe they could put premieres on a small row above subscriptions based on when they air (obviously letting you hide it if you want). If you could disable notifications of premieres from specific people it'd be nice too.
Most of the people I see complaining seem to be just angry about something being new. How dare you innovate!
Because you organised it so early it was in my feed for the day before so I missed the premiere
Same
I feel like the video also did extremely well because of it's topic and the interest it gathered, not just the premier. I think premier *_CAN_* work for odd occasions and well polished videos but not the standard video.
It was a very well crafted video, it kept my attention and was very entertaining throughout. Overall I enjoyed the premiere as you put a clear effort to make it for live viewing, some creators just put a video clearly not tailored to live viewing and I disliked the premiere function because of that. This'll definitely make me look out for your next premiere.
Glad I could catch this one! Fun to engage with kliksman and the other fans, definitely gonna have to rewatch it later.
I would do premiere. I dont see anything wrong with it. Its basically a normal video after the live part is through. Plus you get to chat with your viewers. And get some donations.
I personally think you do a good job of trying to interact with your viewers despite the size of you and your brother's channels. Hell, I myself have gotten a heart, and replies from you before, and on the Skyrim video itself we had a lovely brief chat about how I felt about it and your take on it. I absolutely appreciate your willingness to converse! :)
Philip shows the numbers and, I dunno, the psychology?, of being a TH-camr, and you don't see that in many places. I always want to show my support for this dude!
This is a completely random, but are you still in contact with vexxie? I just wanted to know if she is ok and all that
I want to know too, I really hope she's ok
I talked with vexxsie on discord, she's alive, she says she doesn't have much contact with philip anymore
Hm, why?
@@midlowreborn ok thanks just wanted to make sure she was fine that's all
What happened? If it isnt a sensitive subject or anything
Phillip you're a genuine person, thanks for being you.
I loved it, as I said it even made me donate on TH-cam for the first time. You can do premier for normal videos where early subscribers get to view it together and then it's a normal video.
Cool. Thanks for the breakdown. I personally don't like premieres because I come to TH-cam to watch videos on demand. That is, after all, what TH-cam's built on. Sure I might click on a video that's premiering when I load my subscriptions page, but I really don't care enough about most of my subscriptions to schedule my day around TH-cam premieres. Sad to say, you belonged in that category despite me being informed about your premiere. But thanks again for sharing the experience. The fact that TH-cam live chat boosts your comments statistic is fascinating and probably helps boost its recommendation rate.
Sadly, due to the premiere time of the video I wasn't able to watch it live. I would've really liked to watch the video live with everyone else. Regardless though, I found the video to be a masterpiece and really did enjoy it. Thank you Philip for creating this video, have been a long time subscriber. Not sure if you'd remember, but you included me in "How will he die? Episode 29". My TH-cam name at the time was "GoldenHawk". I can imagine how difficult it would be now to create such a video nowadays, even back then you were saying about the amount of comments. :P
I really like these videos. Hearing you talk calmly about subjects is somewhat soothing
THe thing about premieres is that it shows up i nyour subbox, you think you have a cool new video to watch but nope, You have to wait X ammount of time to b able to watch it. It also removes the video from your sub box after the video is done. Im not that big of a fan of "live" content so this bothers me alot.
Yea
That's just bad mentality, the vid wouldn't be out anyway, the only thing that changes is that you know what you will get, and when.
@@saltcrackerstudio3407 whichnis fucking annoying
@@saltcrackerstudio3407 Im aware, As I said the problem i have is that it appears in the sub box, Id be fine if it was a community post or something like that becuase i can filter that out, WHat I have a problem with is that its being disguised as a video I can watch now
@@Ebbylina I definitely think this is more of a problem with the presentation than the feature itself. I get where you're coming from, but I think if TH-cam just showed it in a different manner, even in your subscription page but off to the side or something, and looking distinct from a typical TH-cam video thumbnail, that feeling of being cheated would go away, or at least lessen.
I did not get to watch the video live, but i was aware that it was happening, seeing as you made a video about it. I got to watch it about half an hour later, and i really enjoyed the video. I could sort of feel the differences from what would have been a normal video that you pointed out as well. Feels bad that i was not notified, or i would probably have taken a pause from homework in order to tune in.
I've seen a lot of channels trying to premiere completely regular videos onto their channel. Here, the premiere makes something seem special when really there's nothing special about it. However, your method of going about this is perfect. A lot more content creators should take the same steps as you :)
I think you should do more of these. That was genuinely one of the greatest weekends I've had in a while.
I had a great time watching it live. It helped that the video itself was very entertaining the entire time and is now one of my favourites from you. 😎👍🏻
I think a factor is that the video is easily in your top 10 videos ever made. If every premiere release is like that, I won’t complain.
I adored that video. I planned to watch it but i sadly overslept. Personally the premiere would not bother me, and i was excited for it. I know i would have enjoyed it. I can totally see that interaction being really fun and i hope that you do more of these sorts of videos, and even more premieres. Keep it a special event though! I would love to see more of this style of video in future.
This was the first video I've ever watched on your channel and it made me an instant fan. Amazing work
When I got the news that I had access to Premiere I premiered a 15s shitpost.
*The reactions were so worth it*
One of my favourite videos of yours, and I loved counting down with you guys. Please do it again :D
I watched the video live and really enjoyed it. The chat gave me something to do while I waited for the start, but I turned it off as the video started firstly because I watched it on my switch and I would've had to check the chat on my phone and also 'cause I wanted to concentrate on the video. Loved the video and it really made me want to revisit Skyrim (which I did of course). I would love to see more videos released like this!
Great work bud, you're a rare gem sparkling brightly in among the shit on TH-cam. That Sony Vegas shot at 9:18 killed me.
I loved it. It's like watching a movie with a director and listening to jokes as we watch the premiere of it. It's basically like any TH-cam video afterwards, but for that première you get to be part of the "squad" that watches it as it releases and enjoy it with Philip. I hope we get more premieres in the future.
You're a good man, Phillip, you provided some very good points in the video and the attitude you have towards these new flashy features is the kind we need nowadays.
More TH-camrs should talk like you do about how they plan to make their videos an why the plan to do them that way, so much unnecessary confusion would be avoided that way...
As annoying as it was to see the premiere in my sub box forever and then to miss the live video release, I enjoyed planning my TH-cam experience ahead of time instead of the usual obsessive binge that always makes me feel gross after 3 hours in a row. I also liked the relaxed pace of this video that let you inject more of your personality into the video, and it felt nicer in comparison to your usual constant stream of helpful, succinct information. Reminds me of your Going Low stories and that era of your videos in general. Keep up the good work Phillip!
I love your channel so much, your general observations and insight are always super intriguing, gutted I missed the premiere, but cannot wait for the next x
Oh my god this is epic
Okay, this is epic
@@mallgraphics yes
It was really enjoyable to watch and interact with the chat. A very new and interesting experience that will be fun to see how it evolves.
I agree with both reports on the problem with the feature itself. The video was pinned to the top of my subscribed feed, which was a tad annoying, yet I didnt get any notification when it actually was about to begin. I was prepared by you that it's going to be an experiment, so I didnt think much of it really. Though I didnt catch it live, I was very happy to see you be in pre chat a day before the premier, and just chatting. You're not the type who we can just catch on discord or twitter replies, and talk about stuff. It felt nice. If youre going to do this premier thing again, dont set it to more than like half an hour. Beyond that it gets in the way.
I knew of the premiere but missed it this time around. The video was fantastic. I don’t plan on missing the next one. It seems like a really cool experience.
watching a video live with the creator and chatting at the same time is a very cool feature
My biggest issue with Premiere videos is that TH-cam doesn't mark them as watched because it's still handled as a stream even after the premiere finished.
I couldn't watch it live but I loved the video. Thank you Philip :)
I was really excited about the premiere video. it was really something different watching a fully edited video in live-time rather than a stream.
I also think the long countdown isn't bad at all. With this everyone can get notified ahead of time.
They said we couldn't do it.
They said we shouldn't do it.
They begged us not to do it.
BUT WE DID IT ANYWAY!
Godspeed, you magnificent bastard.
I don't know why people would have a problem with youtube premiere beyond it not functioning properly. It's not like the video would come out any sooner or later, you just get to know it's coming. Which is a good thing because there's a lot of youtubers where I actually would like to know more in advance what video is coming out and when so I can have lunch or something alongside it.
Thanks to "Man Vs Skyrim" I knew that you were a good content creator, and the effort reflected on your channels. I've enjoyed very much your videos and it's not easy to truly entertain in these days because of the amount of people trying to promote their stuff and winning more money, that is the objective of many people on youtube at present. But there will allways be good people like you that ignores the ego and trully give an original content like the youtube early days. Cheers and hugs from chile!!
Philip, you're already one of my favorite TH-camrs. And with this video, you definitely went up even more 👍❤️
⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ Old school like 😁
I had an exam during the premiere xd. had to watch it after
I watched the premiere. It was a lot of fun!
Honestly, the Man VS Skyrim video was great, definitely one of your best videos, I couldn't make it to watch the premiere, but I still enjoyed it a lot when watching regularly.
I personally like the premiere feature, i subscribe to channels for a reason and i look forward to your videos a lot. Whenever they are released i make time to have a snack and watch it. Now that there are premieres i can prepare a snack in advance and im looking forward to maybe sharing a premiere with you!
I didn’t see the premiere, but I thought the video was absolutely great. It kept me watching the whole way through and completely interested the entire time.
thank you mr klik for the premiere
I personally really enjoyed the premier experience. I feel a lot of the flaws with its delivery were more on youtube's end than yours. You really did everything you could to make the video as successful as you can, and you certainly succeeded! I really hope you do more of these in the future!
I like the idea of premiere, but I never watch things the day they come out. I'm glad they let us watch it afterwards, plus we could see the comments.
Also, it was one of the best videos you've ever made.
I liked it a lot, mainly because of the quality of the video you made. However it was nice that I knew content was coming. I missed the premiere because of work, but I would have watched it live had I the option.
Good onya Philip, I'd love to see you do more of these. People are a little spoiled here on TH-cam, especially on this channel. I hope your next one does better when live.
The reason I skipped the premiere initially, and only watched the video a few days later since I had forgotten about it, is that when watching the premiere, you can't watch it by yourself. The system doesn't really work as just a schedule for a release because of the live aspects, such as pushing the same video to everyone watching at the same time making it so that the video may buffer a lot more than normal, and having the chat slow down your browser since it seems to still be loaded even if you hide it, and you can't skip past the live point. I think they should let people watch the video on the normal page during a premiere in addition to the live experience, which I think should be separate.
wanted to watch but couldn't due to school exams next day. I am very happy to see that you (and your viewers) enjoyed yourselves!
personally i dont mind the premiere. it is nice to know when a video will pop up and its fun to watch along with the creator who answers questions and comments about his videos.
With the Skyrim video it only gave me a notification once the premiere had started(thankfully I was already waiting at the time), However with this one it didn't give me a notification at all. I have notifications on for both 2kliksphilip and kliksphilip.
Though the Skyrim video premiered at 1:00 PM my time, While this one was around 1:30 AM. Maybe youtube decided not to send me a notification assuming I would be sleeping?
Also I couldn't help but look for myself in chat watching this video and I only show up for a split second at 6:20 before you scroll up. Made me chuckle.
I was unaware of the premiere, but that sounds bloody amazing
just wanna say I've been watching your videos for years and we'll always be here. Your content is really well planned out and made and I appreciate your effort. Hopefully they can implement some changes and make the premiere feature a lot better. I missed the premiere of Man VS Skyrim but of course I watched both lmfao Dude you just make amazing videos, and as long as I'm around you'll have a viewer
Im not a fan of having my notifications clogged up from multiple people over the course of multiple days letting me know a video is coming. I care about a handful of content creators, you included, on youtube. I generally make the rounds to check your channels in case I've missed anything throughout the week, but my use of youtube is to usually scroll down the sub box and select the videos im interested in to watch in bulk. I'm glad ypu enjoyed it, and i might be interested if there was a SEPARATE premier tab that i could flip to to see what's coming. But as it stands, scrolling past announcements of an upcoming video i have no interest in watching live from multiple channels multiple times when im trying to find content to watch now, is frustrating.
I'm glad it was a positive experience for you, but until its properly separated from regular videos and something i can look at on its own, because its a completely different way of looking at youtube than how i do now, its only going to be more annoying than a desired feature.
I'm happy your youtube premier was succesful. I've only seen massive negativity about it as well and personally haven't cared much either way, but I see it as a nice new feature. Sadly the announcements appear on mobile much later than the actual release, and I'm not one for keeping a close watch on some video upload schedule.
Also I don't think feeling disappointed about the viewcount during premier is correct, how many views do videos usually get in those 15 minutes? Just because it's live doesn't mean it should get a ton more imo. Agree with your view in this video completely. (btw that skyrim video was awesome)
i always love your analytic and insightful videos, and every other video you make :D
As a German, i love how you said "Schadenfreude" :D
I couldn't watch it live but I watched it afterwards and it is an excellent video, keep the good content coming :)
I totally agree with everything you said here.
Even though i missed the premiere, i enjoyed the video, and i was so excited to see it (even though i kinda forgot about it in the last 3 hours and arrived late)
my comment will probaby go under under the amount of comments, but i really liked the premiere. the chat was fun. cheers mate, keep up the good vids
I hope youtube actually notifies me next time! I'd love to tune in!
I think that the only real issue that most people had was the length of time between the premiere was announced and when it actually aired.. I think that at most it should be 24hours, and ideally 18 or less
Anyone trying to work out what they think about it better do so quickly. That’s the nature of the thing. It was already caught up with trends that seemed too fast to track when it began to become self-aware, decades ago. It has picked up a lot of speed since then.
It is old enough to have arrived in waves, which is to say insistently, or recurrently, and each time the challenge is more urgent. Among its predictions is the expectation that you’ll be too slow to deal with it coherently. Yet if you fumble the question it poses - because rushed - you lose, and perhaps quite badly.
I just watch youtube when I feel like it/fill up gaps when I have nothing to do and my friends are ofline. I saw the announcment but I didn't really pay attetion to it. I just decided to watch it when I want to. Furthermore, I must admit that I didn't like premiere before watching this video (that might have affected my interest for coming to watch it during the release). I want to thank you for opening my eyes. I have never watched premiere and I always thought that it just delays the video. Now I feel like it is something I need to try. It could definitely prove to be interesting and entertaining
Color me surprised, the people liked it. I didn't see the premiere, but I did watch later (at 1.5x). Good video, sir.
I was busy but i enjoyed it like normal video. It was realy fun. Thx for createing. (ur voice is so calm) can listen to you a long time
Just wanted to say that I used to watch you for your CS videos and I'm not subbed to 2kliksphilip, yet I watched Man vs Skyrim since it was in my recommended videos for 2 damn days! It was a great video and I'm glad I saw it but you're probably right that youtube boosts premieres' popularity by counting chat messages as comments.
Watched live, but really didn't chat. My issue was the buffering. I know it is not your fault, but for me every minute or so needed 15 seconds of buffering. Killing the flow, but I must say The entire experience was great. I am not an active community member or anything, just subscribed, Redditt subbed, and make a few YT comments. So when it came to live chat I loved it. I did not really speak, but knowing there were thousands seeing as I am was weird in a good way. wouldn't mind another I had the stream open all 36 hours because I don't turn my desktop off anyways and I figured, why open this tab a second time.
with videos from people i watch regularly, premieres are fine. they're fun, engaging, and i don't mind the wait.
with videos i want to watch NOW (news, tutorials, etc.) premieres are the death of all things holy.
9:13 kliksphilip is very reflected. He seems like a humble man. Thats why I enjoy his content.
woah, i actually had no idea you didn't have a patreon. i'd assume you've got a job or something, else you're some kind of internet mad man at this point
I think it's a great feature and I really enjoyed the Premiere. For both the viewers and the one making the video. You get to see what your viewers thing while watching the video. and the audience gets to watch the video together. Sure the execution of the feature can be improved in different ways as you pointed out, but I'd still rather have the feature in its current state then not have it at all.
Also pretty good pronunciation on the word Schadenfreude. I wasn't aware that word got exported from German into other languages.
I love whenever kliksphilip says something wrong on purpose, like hell of a lot, or premiere.
I don't understand the hate, either. My only guess is how people are annoyed at how it shows up on the top of their subscription list, but even that is just an incredibly minor inconvenience. Now that TH-cam does live streaming, these streams do the same thing showing up on the top of your subscriptions. It's not worth spamming dislikes, I mean come on people.
Really though, TH-cam should disallow voting and comment-commenting (not chat commenting) before the video starts, or arguably before it finishes.
I wasn't there to watch it live, but it was a great video. And I'm really glad you had these two videos talking about Premier from a creator's point of view. From your perspective, it makes total sense that you would want to engage with the watching community and get that instant feedback to your videos. That gives hindsight as to why TH-camrs might want to do this despite the (perceived) prejudices against the system. It's just that most viewers don't seem to understand that, and see it as their inconvenience to put up with. Again, I don't know why people dislike it so much, it's not like they're pushing Google+ on us again.
I really enjoy this new, slower paced style of video. And I don't know how my comment about the music made it into the video xd
I really enjoyed the premiere and I hope you do another one good job!!!
I was looking forward to the kliksphillp analysis video more than the actual video!
for some reason whatever you make i love it
I wouldn't be disappointed by the amount of live builds, some people prefer to watch videos in their own time, or simply cannot watch them on release
I think the video you made about doing the premiere helped people get excited for the launch cause most premieres tend to fail.
People's idea about TH-cam Premier: I want it all, I want it all, AND I WANT IT NOW.
I really like the video format you used for the premiere video.
I wasn't able to watch it live, but it was a really good video. Hope the next time I can see the premiere
I don't actually care about watching with others. I don't care about the chat, as it distracts me from the content. If I find myself reading the chat, means that the content on screen is not good for me have my full attention. In a youtube video, there are no downtimes where you can read the chat and see what people are saying, which is unlike twitch streams and/or live sporting/esporting events. I also like watching videos at my own time, that is why I never(seldom) use notifications bell.
I guess the benefit of the premiere videos are only creator sided. They can see the chat and get live reactions from the audience. From my, the audiences view, I don't see it as adding anything, but it is also not taking anything away, so I'm fine.
You are really onto something with the "no downtime for the chat" part!
Maybe the "how do you feel" buttons, Philip suggested would be a better option. It would allow you to express your reaction live, without taking away from the viewing experience.
you can go fullscreen to hide the chat. that way there is no time spent reading and more time spent watching.
if you watch on your own time then what does it matter? the video will be long over when its your own time or wont be up anyway.
if for some reason you start while the premier is happening, go watch something with a bit of length and come back later to see the whole thing.
the benefits are most certainly not just to one side, the creators get to see what people like and can then improve content using something other than polls. and for the viewer? for those that are not antisocial, you get to talk about something well-made and properly edited with thousands of people while it happens.
its like twitch but instead of talking to the creator, you talk to the viewers.
i think it is an amazing idea, minus notifications being poorly made.
This video being a premiere that I missed by 14 minutes is strange to me, I wasn't notified of it at all and just stumbled upon it afterwards. I'm not sure if I like the idea of watching videos with extra people on the side, I'd probably just hide chat but I'm glad you had a good time with it! :)
I think the reason why so many people disliked is because you get a notification on your mobile phone by default if you didnt turn it off
Couldn't watch it at the premiere, but I really liked you video "Man Vs Skyrim" and I always like these analyses you have for you videos
Could somebody please tell me whats the music in the countdown?