SOUNESS vs JORDAN! 🤬 Graeme and Simon CLASH over Daniel Levy’s part in Tottenham's lack of trophies!
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- Tottenham Hotspur beat Bournemouth 2-3 on Saturday in the Premier League. talkSPORT's Jim White, Simon Jordan and Graeme Souness discuss!
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Jim sits there buzzing away, dropping the odd extra bit of petrol in to keep it going. So funny.
Taking his glasses on and off for added effect 😂
😂 He loves it.
Well put lol
His little smirks every now and again just before it's going to get good are legendary 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Haha Jim is a legend man it’s good stuff
“The Grim Reaper”😂😂
Simon hired 8 managers in 10years 😂,
Tbf Simon didn't sack all 8 a few did leave for other clubs
What's the time Simon?
“You make Abramovich look like a saint”🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Deep down Graeme knows Paul Pobga is behind all this, somehow 😂
🤣🤣
facts no cap 💯
You guys will never let it go 😂😂
Was he wrong about pogba though ?
😂😂
Keane has Richards
Neville has Carra
And Souness has Simon🤣
I saw something different in this video 🤣
Which makes it entertaining. Which is what they want.
More like Simon has Souness
Souness was laughing at Jordan and Jordan went red with anger. What did you see?
Sounds wants to leap across the desk and have at Simon
The joy in Jim’s face throughout this. He loves every minute of these arguments 😂
He's the human incarnation of the Sun
@@monkeytennis8861 truth. Second rate, one trick hack.
It's all to make idiots like u watch ..emotions gets humans every time
And there are people that come in and get the club eliminated. Leave Levy alone. Liverpool won it after 40 years.
It should not be hard to defend what you wrote. The problem with a manager wanting more is that, they blame the previous player they bring in on the chairman. And 2 not many chairman owns 25% percent of the club they are in charge of.
“don't be looking at him (pointing his finger..) for back up...” 😂😂😂
🤣😂🤣
White from then on was afraid of looking in Jordans direction and kept looking up. Divide and conquer💪😂
@@bafanakaione9534 v5gtvg55f⅘tf55tgctgv5gtt⅚5f⅘5f fgv
Souness is starting to make Gab Agbonlahor look like a genius.
That's a scary prospect 🤣🤣🤣
😂
Gabi gabbles garbage! The most irritating man on the radio…..
so you think daniel levy has done enough to help spurs reach their potential? nonsense.
Gabby will never look like a genius regardless of any comparison. I could compare him to a flea, the flea would win a debate every time.
Simon and Greame is the best duo in football punditry. They wind each other up every single segment. One clip Greame looks like he wants to punch Simon and in this clip Simon gets triggered. I have a feeling Greame enjoys this more than Sky because he is naturally confrontational.
Sourness wants to punch most people he sees.
This is gold.
yep both quite intelligent which makes it quite refreshing for talk sport
@@virupakshawalla5734only those who deserve it 😂😂😊
@@firasmassadeh5131 he should start with the guy in 5he mirror then 🤣. Fekin yob. Rangers fan but yirs grannies stool could have won the trophies in Scotland with resources he had. (Not talking about a wooden backless seat either. ) signing Mo was only good thing he really did as thstcwas well overdue by a century or so.
I’m not a big Souness fan at all, but he’s got a point when he says one league cup in all that time is extremely poor
But everything else he says is based on nothing but his weird opinion
@@hehatemefrisbee agreed!!! Calling Casemiro a ‘steady eddy’ was WILLDDD
@@hehatemefrisbee an opinion formed as a world class footballer and pretty successful manager, whereas Simon didn't play football and failed as a director at a football club.
Jim is the best part of these arguments.
The way he just sits and watches both of them go at it with a smile on his face is gold!!!
💯 😂
Souness: “How many managers have you had in ten years?”
Jordan: “As many as the same number of jobs you’ve had”.
😂😂😂
Quick 💥
😂😂😂😂
You dont get it. This is the part 2 to an argument from afew weeks ago.
@@mozi3051 is it?
Souness ruined him here. Jordan has had an easy ride for 3 years, and poor Jim is constantly licking his lips with tension
When Graham said "Dont be looking at him for backup" I couldn't stop laughing!
Jim’s just a middleman really
Graeme Souness: what a load of old waffle!! 🤣🤣🤣🙆♂️🙆♂️💯💯 Priceless.
😂😂😂 cracked up!
Absolute gold bro🤣🤣
Graeme 'I go back to it' Souness makes stuff up as he goes along on this show I come here every Monday expecting a good laugh. 😃
I'm watching and waiting for the complete and utter breakdown from Souness live on Air.
It's 100% coming.
He has to talk next to a failure of a club owner talking about how clubs should be run, the level of irony is off the charts! I would just sit there and laugh my head off!
@@mg3554 Souness trashed Jordan here. What were you watching?
@@jhpfdijtuiweruot did you misread my comment or something?
@@mg3554 Nope. Did you misread mine?
‘What a load of old waffle’ The most ENGLISH thing ever said😂
and hes scottish lol
He meant BRITTISH
😂😂
Scottish mate
🙄
As a Spurs fan myself, I think Tottenham have struggled in recent years simply down to one man Daniel Levy. Every club we have faced in recent years like Chelsea and Liverpool and Manchester City in Final’s have had quality on and off the pitch. They have had really good managers in the past..Martin Jol, Harry Redknapp, and Poch. They couldn’t win anything and that’s really saying that something isn’t working at the club and i blame the Hierarchy. I honestly think that if we get rich owners like Man City have things will change.
⚽ Agree, When Levy does spend, he gets flops, Sissiko, Gino, Tanguy, Lucas, Reggy and Royal
That's the thing, a lot if our Spurs fans think the club/chairman/owner isn't rich..
They bought the club for less than 25m, it's now worth 2.3b, making Spurs the 9th richest club in world football... Go figure.
Dark Lord Levy just doesn't want to spend to win the big trophies because that means sustaining/maintaining and supplementing it with cash flow, yet, he doesn't seem to grasp the fact that success only brings more money and more success.
Hell, the fanbase even treat top 4 like a trophy now, the same way Levy does.
But let's be honest, are we in it to compete or just participate and pray for luck?
@@kmdreacts 🤑 Your right, it's been revenue and top 4 before winning trophy's... We needed a creative Midfielder ( Maddison ) in the Summer... I now read the 29 year old Atalanta midfielder we passed for about £20M, is the one we are back in for in January... He has future with us at 29, has no pace, plays in Italy and you want him to make a impact and hit the ground running... Gamble and cheap option.
Levy is a business man . Clearly prefers profits over trophies
Credit where it's due. Much more likely for trophies to follow a profitable club in the long run. The fact that they were included in the draft of teams of the Super League is a statement of where the Tottenham stand as a club and business today.
@@Dream-rk4te nah wha ye on about ye dafty
That would be the owner, surely
it depends on how you think fo Spurs. Most of us fans who support proper titans of the English game see Spurs in the same category as Everton. They're a big club but not on the same level as Chelsea, United, Liverpool, Arsenal and even City now. If you think Spurs are a huge club then I'd imagine you would be disappointed with Levy, yes he's balanced the books and allowed Spurs to continue growing but he's never shown much ambition for titles. If you think Spurs are on the level of Everton and Leicester (they've won less than both in the premier league era) like I do, then Levy has done an excellent job of keeping spurs in and around the big boys consistently
@@benedictharrison2819 I'm sure that he's ambitious for the title and I do think that the season when Harry Redknapp was going for the title, there should have been a better investment in the January window. The season when Leicester won the title was also disappointing but Leicester were ruthlessly efficient with their system. Arsenal had Wenger and the foundations for his reign were in place before Levy took over. City and Chelsea, Spurs can't compete with that but in fairness, with the money coming into the club now from the stadium, there is less excuse not to invest properly. Levy has stood back from signings so I can't really see where Souness is coming from.
I love how Jim is just having the time of his life 🤣🤣
Jim throws an 'argument grenade' into the mix, then sits back and laughs at them arguing 🤣
Stirs the pop 🤣 love it
🤣
Jim just throwing petrol on the fire every few minutes is classic Jim White 🔥⛽👌
The stories Graeme has to tell before he gets to any sort of point lol
😂😂Souness and his saga
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
“I played the game, im telling you”
Even Souness broke character minute 5 🤣🤣
I love how Sounonsense always says Simon interrupts him but he constantly does it to Simon!!
So annoying
Souness did not do this on Sky Sports as often. Simon interrupts him in talksport cause that's his style so when in Rome. At least it makes it more interesting.
Revenge is sweet!
Summary of this video: Simon is defending a club owner corner & Graeme is defending a manager corner
LFC Spectre = Top LAD Proper Clobber
And it's never been any different.
Boring comment
Souness: "I write a column for the Daily Mail"
Well that's all his credibility down the toilet then!!
@@adamabdulrahman2930 I can have both. I’ve got my own views but I also just happen to agree with a lot of Simons views. I also think he’s quite fair and objective in his praise and in his criticisms, asks challenging questions and find his perspective as a former club owner interesting and unique amongst other pundits who are overwhelmingly former players who bring with them certain prejudices and (as seen recently with various pundits responses to the Ronaldo incident and Gerrard’s sacking) favouritism. And that is my considered response because, as you said, I’m an adult!
@@adamabdulrahman2930 that’s where you’re wrong, because I don’t give a crap about boxing! Don’t care if it’s Fury, Hearn, Joshua or any of them. They’re all a bunch of overpaid, idiot meatheads as far as I’m concerned!
Also, on matters relating to playing football I agree, players are better qualified (I happen to think that Danny Murphy is excellent on TalkSport). But on the finances and management side of things I’m more interested in what a former owner (even if things didn’t work out for them) has to say because they have experience in that field.
One more thing, why you so mad bro?? Not got enough love in your life or something?
8 managers in 10 years is actually insane😭😂
It's not. It's normal.
its not now, at the time Jordan obviously wanted prem football when its ur £ i can understand impatience
Who's he on about Chelsea lol??
Gotta enjoy Souness. Starting to getting warm in talksport 💥 "Its not a silly point" 🤩
Simon the grim reaper 😂😂
Graeme getting bodied by Simon 🤦🏿♂️
How when he has a point only big 6 team that never win anything
That didn't happen
You'd like to be under Simon's body
I must have listened to a different conversation
Simon Jordan , when did Levy give Conte £200 mil ?? Do you know something we don't ?? And FYI Spurs have won 6 FA cups in 60 years , 8 in total actually held the record for a while , first team to achieve the double , they've also won 1 cup winners cup ( first British team to win a trophy in Europe ) 4 LC , and 2 EUFA cups ( only English team to achieve that ) during that period . Does that qualify them as a big club ?? I would argue that it was the over prudent tenure of your buddy Daniel Levy that has held the club back for the last 2 decades , that allowed other clubs to overtake THFC , in trophy winning terms , petro dollar clubs like Chelsea , City and now Newcastle , to add to the perrenial giants United , Liverpool and Arsenal .
yep these so called experts that don't seem to know anything. football as a competitive and fair playing field died the second abramovich came in. prior to that in terms of titles spurs were right up there....
Levy and Lewis have been tight as anything and have been building the business of THFC with little consideration of winning anything... when it gets bad they sack a manager to deflect the true source of the problem. Tottenham have not signed a world class proven player since kinsman.
4:18 - Jim getting washed 😄😄
Man said don’t be looking at him 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Graeme to Jimbo - Don't be looking at him for back up! 😂
Saint Spectre = Top LAD Proper Clobber
When gram Souness was announced to be on talkRUBBISH this is exactly what we were hoping for a great clash between the two of them 🍿
So glad Souness is on talksport.
“What a load of old waffle” 😂😂
Lmao love how Souness exposed that he doesn't write his own columns 🤡
Exactly what I've noticed
I was going to post the same thing.
You clearly didn't listen... He said he doesn't write the headlines for his column you 🤡
That's how all football columns work. The ex pro speaks to a journalist who writes the article based around their ideas
Yeah...that's kind of how the columns work mate. Chat with a journalist who then writes the article.
Graeme got Simon on how many mangers he went through.
When conte said spence is a club signing that says it all. The day Lewis and levy go will be a great day for this club and us fans
Graeme’s laugh at 8 managers
Souness is a salty ex manager - Simon Jordan
How souness gets paid for his dribble is beyond me
Well, it is talksport.
@@dirtyace1668 should be called talksh*te
I see what Souness is saying but he’s articulating himself so poorly!!!
@@chrisb4474 "he's articulating himself so poorly" Amazing. Lol
drivel
Simon “I Am The Power” Jordan
Emperor Palpatine vibes
"MY players" Jordan
Best show of the week by far. Fantastic! Amazing gentleman.!👍
Correction mr Jordon
AFC
7 fa cups
2 league titles
NOT A COUPLE OF fa cups … and we were shite for a good proportion of that 😂
Spurs : 8 FA Cups, which was a record when they won the last one in 1991.
Arsenal 14 is the record now.. souness is right.
@@KP56SS FA Cups were more prestigious back then, even Arsenal fans didn't rate winning recent FA Cups much.
@@dnstone1127 poppycock
Some good points all around. Love the chats and the banter (mild respect). Big ups talksport
The 21 years before levy, spurs won 3 fa cups, 1 Europa league, 1 league cup and 2 charity shields. They finished in the top 4 5 times in those 21 years (1980-2001).
That gets forgotten because during that same time Arsenal was the best team / United
1 title since 1960 is shocking and 2 titles the whole life of Spurs is more shocking
@@dalegrant9282 No Liverpool was (1980-1990)
The Jordanite Army = Top LADS Proper Clobbers 💯 Facts 💪😉👍
LFC Spectre = Top Jordanite Proper Clobber
Rise up!
Levy spent 200 million ón backing conte?! Look at thd awful purchases he's sanctioned under his tenure... Spending is one thing but buying quality players is another. Levy looks at bargains and opportunities in the market but never with the thought of building a winning team!!
4:20 “don’t be looking at him for backup” - Sounness
Graeme Souness wins this round in my view, Simon defending Levy.
Normally agree with Simon on most things but Daniel levy is a bad owner man. He took over the joint top fa cup holders at the time. Since his regime, 4 teams have over taken us
Daniel Levy isn’t the majority owner, Joe Lewis is and both have invested money into club, whilst Spurs probably have the best stadium in Europe and are currently still keeping up with the rest of the big 7. Under their ownership Spurs have made it to a UCL Final, financially that was a huge win and an FA Cup win is peanuts by comparison.
@@rhowell1978 he’s ran the football sides of this like a drunk man pal. His buy cheap punts with blind hope that they are gonna become world beaters is so outdated. It ends up costing the club more money long term having to constantly buy more of these sort of players to replace the previous ones who were not good enough. He got ridiculously lucky that Harry Kane became an elite player and he had a good young manager in poch that was able to get a team of young underpaid players to perform. Funny how when poch goes to psg and has to deal with serious big boys he’s out of his depth. Cups mean more to proper football people than some ucl games bro
Levy is one of the best Chairperson
Under his watch the club as not been under any controversy and run like a business
I think Souness is just writing the column for the pay cheque and its not a particularly well informed opinion.
The director of football, Fabio Paratici, is managing the transfers. Conte and Levy are essentially advising him and/or setting targets. That's why he's going out and buying a mix of Conte style transfers with more experienced players for results now and also going to the market for younger prospects which would both fit Conte's system and align with Levy's transfer policy.
People give spurs and Levy a hard time, but realistically we've been competing with teams at the peak of their powers and it's not strange that we've only won a single trophy in that 21 year period. Simon is talking absolute sense!
To win anything in the 2000s they had to beat Arsenal, Man U and Chelsea at their peaks. In the 2010s City used the unfathomable wealth of their owners to hit their peak and then Liverpool became a massive force as well. Up until after the Bale/Modric transfers to Madrid and Kane arrived, Spurs also had their best players taken from them whenever anyone stood out as well.
It's not at all surprising that only a few other clubs have managed to get a trophy or two in those eras. If anything it's surprising that Spurs' trophy came in 2008, rather than 2015-2017 when we really hit a peak and other teams were in slight transitional phases.
Conte has already shown he can over achieve with Tottenham. The club has already backed him and are desperate to keep him. Maybe some fans aren't enjoying the football right now, but most understand that until we get players with more ability in certain positions we will rely on being organised to get some results.
Simon trolling Graeme is the best thing since Jose was trolling the Premier League.
Souness wiped the floor with Jordan here. His face was beetroot by the end of the video
@@jhpfdijtuiweruot ??? he didnt. he had no argument at all. its embarrassing
@@peep5118 Spurs should have won more than one minor trophy under Levy. And Jordan went through 8 managers in ten years. And Jordan went visibly red with anger when Souness pointed this out. You're welcome...
@@jhpfdijtuiweruot no he didn’t answer for his column comments except by saying he didn’t even write it! 😭 just repeating that doesn’t make him right.
@@peep5118 He wiped the floor with Jordan here. Jordan was visibly raging and Souness was laughing at Jordan throughout. Sorry the reality doesn't match your fantasy narrative
If Simon is going by this argument that Tottenham consistently underspend in comparison to the top 6, then why does he never give Poch credit for what he did at Tottenham, bearing in mind there was a one year period where spurs didn’t sign a single player while he was manager
Because poch lost it to Leicester not city united or Chelsea
@@xxxdannyXMurphyxxx yes but so did Arsenal, and I’m an arsenal fan. But Tottenham weren’t that type of club before Poch. He built that team, under a different manager at that time in their history, they wouldn’t even have come close to Leicester that year.
@@Ad-wu8te the season before poch joined they spent 120m on signings he already had a quality team of young players
He had Kyle walker vertonghen Harry kane dembele Ericcson loris as soon as he walked in the door. He did improve them yeah but let's not act like he built from the ground up he had a real solid base to work from. If he had lost the league to any of the other big teams I'd get it but he didn't. I get that poch did well but let's not act like he wasn't walking into a great squad of players there.
@@xxxdannyXMurphyxxx And I’d agree but Tottenham weren’t a regular top 4 club, in fact the season before he joined, they finished 6th. At the time he joined, the other top 5 teams had better players, and over the time he was manager there, spent more than him. So considering all that, him making them a regular top 4 team, I’d say he probably overachieved.
@@Ad-wu8te thats a fair point I suppose, the only time I've ever really been critical of poch was that Leicester was the ones to beat them that season but I can see your point.
So DL is not at all responsible?? Then when will he be hold responsible Mr.Jordan??
The fundamental issue with Spur's transfer policy is Levy. That's not for a lack of investment, it comes down to the fact that Levy has too much control of who we buy and how we buy. Djed Spence being a great example of a player that Conté never asked for but Levy tries to drive this philosophy of youth that has never worked out. How many young kids have we bought, that have shown massive potential, and what do we do? We condemn them to the training ground and when their form withers to the size of a dried grape, Levy sells them!
The mismanagement of players at Spurs is fundamentally why we struggled to compete and evolve.
Our only success in the transfer window has been from buying ready-made players not nurturing talent.
Chelsea, City, United, Liverpool, all have incredible youth development, incredible academies. That's why their successful.
Absolutely Correct , As Long Levy / Enic Are At The Club We Will Not Achieve Anything
The Cracks Are Already Appearing Both Levy And Conte Have Different Ideologies
On Transfers , Levy’s Record In Transfers Is Appalling Wasting Money On The Likes Of
Ndombele , Lamela , Jansen , Nkoudou , Sanchez , Aurier , N’jie , Stambouli , Capoue , Chiriches , Chadli , Pavlaychenko ,
Bostock , Emerson , Moura , They Are The Ones I Can Remember There is many more
To Mention
He Should Be Getting Players Who Are Premiership Ready Or Ready For The Next Step Up ( Trossard ; Eze ; Maddison ; Neves
Ward-Prowse ; Tielemans ; Zaha ; Get Marcus Edwards Back , Get Players from Italy that conte knows ( bastoni , chiesa , Milinkovic-Savic , barella , osimhen ) gvardiol from RB Leipzig , Jonathan David from Lile these players are first choice not the fifth , sixth , Seventh choice bargain basement rubbish levy is placing upon every manager he has employed , time to change or time’s up for levy / Enic if conte walks
That stadium wasn't built for spurs
Levy is also the Chairman whose guided Spurs into Europe 16 times in a row, Second and third in the League, Champions League Final and built a state of the art Stadium and Training ground facility. Spurs's average position since Enic took over is fourth, even though they have been the sixth biggest club. So all in all, Daniel Levy is a world class chairman and Graham Souness is a bang average pundit.
Warra trophy for Spursy
2nd, 3rd in the league (the latter being 3rd in a two horse race), 16 times in Europe which got them?? nothing. NO TROPHIES
Built a great stadium and that is it.
How much has Klopp spent, he got a bunch of champions league finals, one of which he won, won the premier league, was battling for 4 trophies.
Levy has wasted hundreds of millions sacking managers.
Levy a world class chairman lol
In the 90’s spurs finished in the top 6 once yet won more trophies in 10 years as a mid table club than levy has in 22 years as a top 6 club. Daniel levy isn’t the chairman of a football team, he’s the chairman of a business that has to make profit. Winning trophies is a risk that could damage the profit margins.
95% of spurs fan base hate levy, very good business man but doesn’t care about winning. Before levy statistically we won 2 trophies a decade, with him we win .25 a decade and it’s the worst trophy. Not backing poch, sacking countless managers instead of getting rid of the deadwood. Most expensive st in europe, hates the fans, not allowed singing section. Levy controls transfers on the whole
Arsenal
Can’t keep up but won 6fa cups and 2 leagues in Last 20 odd years why couldn’t spurs do that then Simon? What a Wally 🙄
Bravo Grahame!! Bang on until ENIC and levy are ousted nothing will change. Mourihino wanted skriniar got Rodon. Conte wanted hakimi got Spence. It's profit over trophies!
Jordan ect are brilliant but jim white is pure class
This is better than anything on terrestrial TV 😂
Love the banter between these two.
Simon is still undefeated and undisputed at talk sport 🤣
Nah, he’s been defeated a couple times
@@environm3ntalist549 by whom?
@@stephenalex4345 Dale Vince was the first name that comes to mind
Souness is outmatched in every conversation he's ever had
How though??? He made the point one trophy in 21 years isn't good enough and he suspects Levy won't back Conte which is also a fair point. Furthermore, Simon Jordan is chatting 💩 stating the only reason Spurs haven't won more is because they can't match City, Chelsea and Utds spending power... So how come Leicester won the Premier league then? 🍩
Apart from Simon is a failed bitter owner??
@@jalberto428 Doubt he's bitter when he's still got millions in the bank
He ripped Jordan here. And has around three dozen major trophies more than him at the end of the day. Bizarre that so many men cry about every word he says
Simon Jordan seems to have forgotten Arsenal have won the PL twice since Levy has been at Totenham's helm, as well as Leicester's title-winning season of 6 years ago.
Simon alluding that Spur’s level of success both historically and recently is comparable to that of Arsenal’s has to be the dumbest take in football punditry ever. Shows why man has woefully failed at every level of the game. Not quite sure what qualifies him to be a pundit anyways
Souness rumbled that he doesn’t write his own articles..,.
I’m a Spurs fan and I agree with both Graeme and Simon
1 trophy in 21 years isn’t good enough
I will give ENIC & Levy credit for what they’ve done.
They’ve turned us from a league cup team to a proper European power house. The stadium is a game changer along with how big the club is now around the world.
We will never be able to compete with Man City, Chelsea, Man Utd or even Newcastle but the stadium allows us to invest and spend.
Levy said the stadium will allow us to spend more and we backed Conte this summer
Biggest mistake Levy & ENIC made was not investing in the squad under Poch.
Poch punched well above his weight and turned us into an absolute rampant team, we played brilliant football and had such a young squad.
ENIC & Levy know they have to spend now otherwise Conte will walk. He’ll stay, he isn’t the type of manager to say he’s happy then suddenly back out.
Conte is constantly saying we need time and patience and 2-3 windows.
That clearly hints to ENIC & Levy spending money and backing him
Once the stadium naming rights deal goes through that’ll be even more money to spend
You mean European power house? 21yrs 1 league Cup only? 60yrs last time Spurs won title? 2 titles their whole life? Shocking.
@@ekowhoward5530 You have to put it in context of the crap situation we've been in for the past 21 years - the squads and managers we used to have were terrible. Now we've got a proper team, manager and stadium (they are hard to watch at the moment admittedly). I would have loved to have won more but the growth and improvement i've seen in my lfetime has only be upwards across those 21 years - we've been run really well. All of Poch's work built the foundations for the stadium rebuild which I think was a really clever investment that will pay off over the long term. I believe Conte will build a good team over the next 2-3 windows so we get closer to the state-funded clubs.
I am quite tired of people summarising success just by cups. I'm sad they haven't come, it would have been nice for Poch especially, but we have pulled ourselves up to a good place.
These discussions are great entertainment. Hope they keep up the spirit.
People forget just where Spurs were when Sugar and then Levy took over. Spurs were a Premier League club within hours of bankruptcy - that's 1 thing when you're competing in the lower leagues and even then isa hard enough to come back from. Sugar, and particularly Levy, helped stabilise the club, balance the books so that Spurs simply continued to exist, let alone win trophies, and then slowly but surely pushed us back up the Premier League. They may not have won silverware but nobody can argue Spurs have not just improved steadily under Levy's stewardship but improved with consistency. 20 years ago, when Levy arrived, a good season at Spurs was to finish around 10th and a bad season would have been relegation. Nowadays Spurs aren't even close to 10th - I think a bad season is 7th, a terrible season is like 8th. I don't think people really remember just how unachievable that would've felt for Spurs 20 years ago. Spurs first ever qualification for the Champion's League came in 2010 and, since then, they've qualified another SIX times. I just do not understand the Levy criticism. He's not on the pitch. His job is to provide a stability and Spurs are one of the most stable clubs off the pitch - even when they have a wobble they're not dropping down the league. However, that last little push to get over the line for silverware SURELY comes from thew management and the actual players. Levy has brought 1 of the best managers in the world to the club - still people whinge. He went out and spent early this summer, a proper decent wedge too, and at the time everyone was cooing about Spurs. It hasn't quite clicked yet ... let's all blame Levy. What? Hindsight must be wonderful
rarely think Simon is wrong but I actually think he is here
So what we learned is Graeme Souness doesn't actually write his own column
Headlines are always written by the editors.
Simon not getting his facts straight on arsenals success. In the last 25 years they have won 3 league titles and 8 fa cups. Considerably more than spurs.
Where was Souness' lie??
I've been a Spurs fan since 96, and I've been calling for Levy's head since he Infamously disrespected Harry Redknapp and our clubs ambitions during the January window when he gave him always injured Saha and Soon to be relegated with Blackburn Ryan Nelson when he asked for Aguero/Tevez, and Gary Cahill.
His ambitions as a chairman is to Just get top 4. Never to win trophies or compete and his years of poor transfer activities only proves it further.
Poch exceeded expectations every time, we finish 2nd behind Chelsea, and the club decide to go on a self imposed transfer ban for 500+ days and then, when we do finally buy someone, we buy Ndombele, even after all of the negativity surrounding him in the French league.
So, he doesn't back Poch after pulling rabbits out of the hat, sacks him once top 4 was looking in doubt, hires a class manager in Mourinho, doesn't back him and then, sacks him 6 days before a final he got us to because winning the trophy means resting players for prem games that could Also cost us top 4.. nope, sorry. Goodbye.
Spends over 2 months trying to hire someone, anyone as our manager but at this point, managers are very much aware how shady Levy is and turn it down, including Conte, stating the club and chairman showed little ambition to wanting trophies.
Hires Nuno, who Should've never been there in the first place, sackd him less than half a year later because after a certain loss at home, the crowd had finally had enough and called out his name, something that has Never happened before.
He runs back to Conte, tail between his legs, tells Conte all kinds of lies in order to get him to sign so the Spurs fans can be lulled back into a sense of moving forward, but yet again, another useless transfer window reveals Levy will Not be backing Conte the same way he didn't back Mourinho or Poch before.
Not buying Anyone for 500+ days after surging up the table the way we did, while having the team we had at the time was a death sentence for the club and allowed Liverpool, Man Utd and Arsenal to finally catch up and overtake us.
Simon Jordan and Dark Lord Levy clearly sit down and have long chats together on how to F up a football club, and no one will Ever convince me that Levy has the football clubs best interest on the pitch at heart.
Simon mentions City Chelsea and UTD but what about Leicester they did it with hardly any spend and have also won the FACup since
Their League Cup is their version of it I guess..
Not to mention Arsenal ffs 2 titles and 7 fa cups 😂
Tottenham has never been a big club. They last won the FA cup in 1991, the League in 1961 and that's all. To me teams like Leicester, Blackburn and Wigan have achieved more.
Souness is spot on levy still having a job and not winning anything! Spurs will never be a big team just a good business model than never really gets over the line. Astonished the fans are completly short sighted!
Levy is fully to blame in my opinion. Under enic we will achieve nothing
souness asked a great question, btw.. it is mostly joe lewis' money, anyway... and managers like even mourinho have been let go for far less.. so why is levy still in the job?!
Graeme and Jordan have such an energy together.
They argue, are serious, at the same time it's entertaining and funny.
Man Utd have the won the premier league more than 8 times 🤦🏼♂️
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@@DavyCR88 Bought half of it tho SAF had the PL officials on pay roll
In the last 20 years he said
Graeme is more of a 'lets have a chinwag' type of guy - Simon is a very aggressive 'lets spar until I get the better of you' type of guy.
Jim just keeps serving up and these guys take the bait everytime. ❤️ it. 🎣
I really like what souness brings to the table. The Monday show is the best. You can sense there are tensions between souness and Jordan. Two different people from two different backgrounds that usually have diametrically opposed views. And then there is jimmy in middle, some times playing the referee, and other times playing the stirrer. 😅 It's good radio.
Exactly...I always watch it when Souness is there
Agree
Best show on radio. Loved the banter today
Souness was right, there is a power struggle at Spurs. Conte vs then board.
Jordan is shifting the argument. I'm no fan of Souness but he isn't saying Spurs need to win 5 Pls. But they had the chance to win 1 and choked it away and finished 3rd. Lcfc have won the league and facup. Wigan won the facup. Watford, Palce, Hull and Villa have got to an facup final. Theyve underperformed for the talent they have.
That has got nothing to do with the price of cheese, classic Simon.
Classically inane deflection
@@jhpfdijtuiweruot Rent free
@@sammybeck4855 I am inside your head by the looks of things. Please continue...
Imagine if this show had hosts that could actually deliver modern knowledge, insights and analysis. And if they cared more about the quality of the conversations than the protection of their egos.
It's media, it's about entertainment.
Why do you watch it if it's not to your tastes? Literally thousands of alternative "modern" channels to watch if that's what you like
@@jhpfdijtuiweruot Are you a spokeperson for TalkSport, Souness or Jordan by any chance? I watch it sometimes because this is public media. These guys talk nonsense a lot of the time although sometimes they have decent points. However their egos often has centre stage.
@@lilbaz8732 Should all media be about entertaintment. This is also an educational forum.
@@matskf What does that even mean? I'm a spokesperson for a radio station because I posted a reply to someone else's comment? Lol
Looking forward to them changing the Monday guest next season.
Simon is generally speaking facts, but what often happens, and what happens here as well, is that his bullshit is faded by the fact that he speaks quickly and is intelligent and has a great vocabulary. I agree with Souness, I don't think a club's success should be measured by the stadium they have and the net profit they generate, rather by the trophies and honors it is collecting, as a sport team should. This spurs team has the legacy of not being able to win a trophy other than the audi cup, and after 23 years, perhaps its not the managers' and the players' fault.
Simon doesn’t make the point that, during pochettino time when there was 0 money spent, we had the best chance of winning something and focused on business instead.
21 years, always top half of the table, never break ffp, building great infrastructure, best training facilities and stadium, excellent manager, i think hes been slowly building a great business in the world of football. yeah its a shame they havnt won more but its been pretty difficult with some of the incredible teams that have been around in those years and the money that has come into the game and bough it. If you can only be happy and support your club when they win trophies, you arent much of a real supporter. Spurs missed a trick when they didnt strengthen after losing the CL final with Poch. Lets see what happens in terms of backing conte and building something before spouting more nonsense anti spurs anti levy drivvel. Much prefer this way than selling out to middle eastern oil money.
"Always top half of the table, never Broke ffp"
Warrrrra trophy 😂😂
Less trophies than Leicester in the same period
@@Graziak5 and more than Newcastle...one of the richest clubs in the world
@@johnmulhern2833 yes they are one of the richest in the world……for the last 12 months lol
Probably doesn't help that you have Arsenal being so successful 20 years ago, Arsenal managed to get the business right and win trophies, so spurs don't really have an excuse.
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Jim is loving life. His experience knows how to make this the best show on radio
Yes tottenhams trophies have fallen of a cliff in the premier league and levy era but historically spurs did win trophies and were/are a big club. This 60 years keeps being quoted and to put Simon right spurs won the double in 61 so if we go from 62, since then spurs have win 5 more ( not 3) FA cups, 62,67,81,82,91, + 4 league cups , + 3 European trophies (the mighty arsenal have won one in their entire history !),,so yes it has fallen away but spurs are still a ‘big” club.
2 euro cups actually 69-70 & 93-94. So you have 1 more than us, while we have 13 league titles and you have 2. I wouldn't swap lol !
@@gooner_duke2756 so to disapoint you but I was aware of your fairs cup win in 1970,,unfortunately uefa are not as that is not classified now as a European Trophy so if you check uefa records arsenal have one European trophy !
A big club doesn't have to argue it's a big club.
Just a little correction Simon, Arsenal have one the Premier league 3 times not 2.
Managers don’t have a say who signs for Tottenham, they might get asked what they like. If your unsure just look at the spence purchase
Graeme has a lot of points that don't make sense but he was spot on in this one. 1 League Cup in 21 years is not good enough at all. If Spurs don't win anything again this season it won't be long before a winner Conte starts getting disgruntled (if he isn't already behind the scenes)