So glad I found this channel! Yes, I agree with your analysis. As an Atheopagan, I don't believe in any supernatural agencies. For me, this doesn't make Ouija boards, tarot cards, etc., less interesting, it makes them more interesting! Consciousness is like a tiny island in the vast ocean of the mind. Our mind knows a lot more than our small consciousness has access to. I think this is where psychics, psychologists, priests, faculty office hours, Ouija boards, tarot cards, etc., come in. I see all of these tools not as accessing secret knowledge from spirits in a non-corporeal realm, but as giving us conscious access to what other parts of our brain know. At their best, all these people and tools don't tell us what to go do with our lives. They are simply companions aiding in our journey of self-discovery. We are always pushing the planchette! The distinction is between conscious and subconscious pushing. Conscious pushing, by yourself or your partner, is obvious and uninteresting. Subconscious pushing, where you don't realize you are pushing it, can be amazing! Conscious pushing is like learning to dance: it's clumsy and you step on your partner's toes a lot. Subconscious pushing is like elegant partner dancing. You're in the zone. It's effortless flow. There isn't really a sense of leading or following, only of spontaneously moving together. Yes, you are pushing the planchette, but it's so natural and flowing that the planchette can sometimes move so fast your hands fall off it! I think sometimes the words spelt come collaboratively. And other times one partner is mostly a companion and the other takes a much-needed journey into their subconscious. Just as you noted that reciting the alphabet and waiting for a knock was too slow, I think Ouija boards can also be pretty slow. They're great for aphorisms and other short messages. But, for example, when my friend Jenny needed to explore her own life and issues with her mom, it took us 4 hours with a Ouija board. That's a long time to sit cross-legged on the floor! My legs were kind of cramped and I had to pee for the last 2 hours! But Jenny's questions were so deeply personal and powerful I just didn't have the heart to stop. In retrospect, I think a tarot card reading could have covered all that territory in an hour. Once my friend Lee and I were playing with a Ouija board. The planchette was moving vibrantly. But on this occasion it never stopped on any letters. Since it was moving so dramatically, but not spelling anything, it occurred to me to replace the board with a large sheet of paper and the planchette with a pencil. Lee and I thought we had invented Automatic Drawing that night! Through later research, we discovered that people had been doing this for hundreds of years!
That’s a fantastic description of consciousness and the unconscious depths of our minds... and I really love the idea of using a Ouija board being like a dance. It can be so fantastic for doing that deep inner work, even though we are unconsciously pushing it. That’s great you could help your friend work through her issues with her mom, even if it was a really long process! I agree that tarot cards can also be really helpful for that, but the kinds of messages we get with different forms of divination tools will vary, and I think with the ouija board things may be more direct sometimes. And that’s cool you two decided to use it with a pencil! That’s another thing the 19th Spiritualists did before they had the actual board, they’d use the planchette and the pencil/paper to write out messages from the spirits. It’s neat how that idea occurred to you without knowing that!
Not willing to use an Ouija Board any time soon (Probably never will, Depending on if life doesn't take away my loved ones from me), But these are questions I've been really curious about, Regarding Ouija Boards: 1- How do you say Goodbye? Do you move the planchette across all the letters of the word Goodbye? Or just 1 letter? Or just touching the word in general would be enough? 2- In case the one I'm contacting is the Z entity without my knowledge (Just don't wanna spell his name cuz I don't know anything about him or what he's capable of), When the planchette moves across Z and O for the 1st time, Is it already too late? Or how many times does he need to come across the Z and O letters in order to be a true threat (Aka be set free) ? I heard it's 24 times. If I go to Goodbye after the 1st time, Is everything gonna be alright? 3- In case I'm contacting an evil entity, How many times do they need to countdown and/or come across the alphabet to be a threat? Do they need to do BOTH the countdown AND come across full alphabet? Or just one of them? Either case, How many times do they need to do each one of the two, To become a true threat (Aka be set free) ? 4- For the 8-movement thingy, How many times do they need to do it to be threatening aka set free? If they perform it 1 time for example and I stop them on the 2nd time (Aka go to Goodbye), Is everything saved now? 5- Is being full of grudge and hatred, Counted as being weak-minded in the context of using an Ouija Board? 6- How is "Ouija" pronounced? 7- What does "Ouija" mean exactly? I heard it's derived from multiple different words, And it was also named by a spirit. Is that true? If yes, What does "Ouija" mean or stand for? 8- What are the questions I must NEVER ask to a spirit, No matter what, Whether they're good or evil ? Please make a list with every possible question of that category, If possible 9- Aside from the Z entity's name, What are the other names I must NEVER allow to get spelled on the board at all costs? 10- What are the safety precautions I must follow BEFORE using the board? Do I need to pour salt around the board and/or light white candles around the board? Candles seem risky to me because clothes might get caught on fire while moving the planchette, So is salt around the board good enough protection in case shit happens? 11- After every session (Assumedly all ended with Goodbye), What are the safety precautions I must follow to avoid any lingering nonsense? 12- How many questions am I allowed to ask per session? Is there a specific number or does it vary per session? If it varies, How do I know the current number of questions allowed for the current session WITHOUT having to waste 1 of my allowed questions on it? I heard that if I surpass the limit, The spirit will "come after me" 13- How do I make it so that I contact a specific person's spirit like a deceased family member or so? I keep hearing there are people having contacted their parents and stuff, So I don't think it's COMPLETELY at random who you end up talking to. There should be something done in order to contact a specific spirit. I'm curious what that thing is 14- If NOT a person, But an object ends up getting possessed by the contacted spirit, Would saying Goodbye return the spirit back to its world? Or does following all precautions correctly prevent possessions from happening to anything, Including objects? 15- What is the safest place to use an Ouija Board? I know your home, And graveyards are the worst places to use an Ouija Board in. How about the best places? 16- If I see a sign of an evil spirit, And I give an out loud signal for my mate to move to Goodbye, Can't the spirit just try to resist our movement towards the Goodbye? Or are we able to move the planchette by force against the spirit's will and go to the Goodbye by force? Or can it do dirty moves to interrupt us like punching in the face and stuff? 17- After finishing the session (Ending with Goodbye), We should keep the planchette away from the board, Right? If yes, What is the minimum distance we must keep between the two of them? 18- Do spirits understand questions asked out loud vocally? Or does everything have to be said through the planchette? If they CAN understand vocal questions, Do they count towards the questions number limit per session? 19- When you're using the planchette to talk, How do you leave spaces between words so you can write your sentences properly? 20- If I say stuff like "I love you" or "I'm sorry I failed to protect you" for example, Do these things count towards the questions number limit per session? They're Not questions, But do they still count towards my limit of questions per session? 21- Can an entity communicate with multiple Ouija Board users at the same time ? For example the Z entity. Is it possible that +2 people from different locations and boards get Unlucky enough to have the Z entity as their session partner (At the same time) ? Or can each entity only communicate with 1 user at a time ? 22- I heard that "MAMA" and "ZAZA" are alternative names of "ZOZO". Is this true? If yes, Then I would appreciate a full list of ALL of his names/nicknames just for the sake of awareness 23- I keep hearing instructions about never letting the Z entity do the 8-movement, and so on, so he doesn't get freed. I saw footage videos where he DID get free and even possess people. Doesn't that mean it's already too late, That he's already roaming in our world and is free to do whatever he wants? Or is it for a limited time only and then he returns back to his world, Then needs another Ouija user to free him once again? Same questions for other evil entities 24- Is the Z entity the only one who is commonly known for appearing so frequently in Ouija sessions? Or are there other entities who also appear so frequently? I would appreciate a full list of their names as well for the sake of awareness
@@Chris-pq3wp the only reason I tried it myself was because my older sister always tried to scare me.. I thought she was doing it. So one day I decided to do it alone … I’m traumatized lol .seriously
Yeah exactly :) The mind is so wonderfully complex---almost spooky in and of itself! There's so much we don't know about it, but what we are learning is fascinating!
@@theskepticalwitch6611 you are so right! there is so much we do not know about the mind and that is crazy as the mind is what shapes a good part of reality we live! we all so do not know a lot a bout the world still! it is fascinating to look at the new data. a cool TH-cam channel a bout new science theory to look at Dissident Science. do you identify as atheist? thanks for the reply!
@@jakemichael8586 ooh thank you for the recommendation! I’ll check it out! I identify as non-theistic and as a naturalistic pantheist, so I feel as though the cosmos is sacred, but don’t necessarily believe in anything “supernatural” :)
@@theskepticalwitch6611 ok so you are a atheist just not the garden variety. i just identify as atheist but do find the universe sacred as well. thanks for the reply take care!
Thank you for thinking of donating to me! I currently don't have anything for that because I don't feel like I'm really offering anything at the minute that I would be comfortable accepting money for... I'm just making videos about things I 'm interested in :) I might start a Patreon in the future though where I'll maybe have some workshops and opportunities for discussions within the community, and bonus content.
@@theskepticalwitch6611 I don't know if you have seen Ocean Keltoi's video on Latent Christianity. If not I strongly recommend you watch it. What you are expressing is a Latent Christian belief based in the protestant work ethic. Your work only has value if you think it does. First... no. Humans are awful as valuing our own work. Second your expressed sentiment devalues those who value the work you are doing, both in becoming more educating, and in sharing your insight. Third Christianity in the US teaches us to see the offer of charity (ie non-forced exchange of goods and services) as a bad thing. I will call you to remember that charity in the pagan tradition is something different. It's a transaction to a member of the community not to paid back to the specific community member who offered the charity, but rather obligates the receiver to pay the charity forward. If you do not want to start a patreon because you are concerned that no one or not enough people would contribute and the disappointment would be psychologically damaging. That I can accept. Make sure however that your motives for doing or not doing a thing are coming from the right place. Narrative, narrative, narrative. The story we tell ourselves about ourselves and the way the world works are SUPER important. From my personal perspective investing in you now will pay dividends down the road. It will benefit the community which will in direct and indirect ways benefit me later. Again you do not have to do it especially if it will cause you distress. It is good to examine the motives. But hey... I'm just some rando on the internet.
Thanks very much for this great advice... I do think that so many of us feel this way about the content we produce, or whatever it may be. It is important to be conscious about the narratives we're applying to ourselves, and I really should be more aware of what narratives I'm using... I haven't seen Ocean Keltoi's video on Latent Christianity yet, but I will definitely check it out--it sounds incredibly interesting. I think I will start a Patreon at some point... Maybe within the next couple months, when I have a bit more time to dedicate to my content :)
So glad I found this channel! Yes, I agree with your analysis. As an Atheopagan, I don't believe in any supernatural agencies. For me, this doesn't make Ouija boards, tarot cards, etc., less interesting, it makes them more interesting!
Consciousness is like a tiny island in the vast ocean of the mind. Our mind knows a lot more than our small consciousness has access to. I think this is where psychics, psychologists, priests, faculty office hours, Ouija boards, tarot cards, etc., come in. I see all of these tools not as accessing secret knowledge from spirits in a non-corporeal realm, but as giving us conscious access to what other parts of our brain know. At their best, all these people and tools don't tell us what to go do with our lives. They are simply companions aiding in our journey of self-discovery.
We are always pushing the planchette! The distinction is between conscious and subconscious pushing. Conscious pushing, by yourself or your partner, is obvious and uninteresting. Subconscious pushing, where you don't realize you are pushing it, can be amazing! Conscious pushing is like learning to dance: it's clumsy and you step on your partner's toes a lot. Subconscious pushing is like elegant partner dancing. You're in the zone. It's effortless flow. There isn't really a sense of leading or following, only of spontaneously moving together. Yes, you are pushing the planchette, but it's so natural and flowing that the planchette can sometimes move so fast your hands fall off it!
I think sometimes the words spelt come collaboratively. And other times one partner is mostly a companion and the other takes a much-needed journey into their subconscious. Just as you noted that reciting the alphabet and waiting for a knock was too slow, I think Ouija boards can also be pretty slow. They're great for aphorisms and other short messages. But, for example, when my friend Jenny needed to explore her own life and issues with her mom, it took us 4 hours with a Ouija board. That's a long time to sit cross-legged on the floor! My legs were kind of cramped and I had to pee for the last 2 hours! But Jenny's questions were so deeply personal and powerful I just didn't have the heart to stop. In retrospect, I think a tarot card reading could have covered all that territory in an hour.
Once my friend Lee and I were playing with a Ouija board. The planchette was moving vibrantly. But on this occasion it never stopped on any letters. Since it was moving so dramatically, but not spelling anything, it occurred to me to replace the board with a large sheet of paper and the planchette with a pencil. Lee and I thought we had invented Automatic Drawing that night! Through later research, we discovered that people had been doing this for hundreds of years!
That’s a fantastic description of consciousness and the unconscious depths of our minds... and I really love the idea of using a Ouija board being like a dance. It can be so fantastic for doing that deep inner work, even though we are unconsciously pushing it. That’s great you could help your friend work through her issues with her mom, even if it was a really long process! I agree that tarot cards can also be really helpful for that, but the kinds of messages we get with different forms of divination tools will vary, and I think with the ouija board things may be more direct sometimes.
And that’s cool you two decided to use it with a pencil! That’s another thing the 19th Spiritualists did before they had the actual board, they’d use the planchette and the pencil/paper to write out messages from the spirits. It’s neat how that idea occurred to you without knowing that!
Absolutely love this! A healthy dose of skepticism is so essential. You did a beautiful job of approaching divination and magic meaningfully ❤
Thanks so much! 😊 💜
Not willing to use an Ouija Board any time soon (Probably never will, Depending on if life doesn't take away my loved ones from me), But these are questions I've been really curious about, Regarding Ouija Boards:
1- How do you say Goodbye? Do you move the planchette across all the letters of the word Goodbye? Or just 1 letter? Or just touching the word in general would be enough?
2- In case the one I'm contacting is the Z entity without my knowledge (Just don't wanna spell his name cuz I don't know anything about him or what he's capable of), When the planchette moves across Z and O for the 1st time, Is it already too late? Or how many times does he need to come across the Z and O letters in order to be a true threat (Aka be set free) ? I heard it's 24 times. If I go to Goodbye after the 1st time, Is everything gonna be alright?
3- In case I'm contacting an evil entity, How many times do they need to countdown and/or come across the alphabet to be a threat? Do they need to do BOTH the countdown AND come across full alphabet? Or just one of them? Either case, How many times do they need to do each one of the two, To become a true threat (Aka be set free) ?
4- For the 8-movement thingy, How many times do they need to do it to be threatening aka set free? If they perform it 1 time for example and I stop them on the 2nd time (Aka go to Goodbye), Is everything saved now?
5- Is being full of grudge and hatred, Counted as being weak-minded in the context of using an Ouija Board?
6- How is "Ouija" pronounced?
7- What does "Ouija" mean exactly? I heard it's derived from multiple different words, And it was also named by a spirit. Is that true? If yes, What does "Ouija" mean or stand for?
8- What are the questions I must NEVER ask to a spirit, No matter what, Whether they're good or evil ? Please make a list with every possible question of that category, If possible
9- Aside from the Z entity's name, What are the other names I must NEVER allow to get spelled on the board at all costs?
10- What are the safety precautions I must follow BEFORE using the board? Do I need to pour salt around the board and/or light white candles around the board? Candles seem risky to me because clothes might get caught on fire while moving the planchette, So is salt around the board good enough protection in case shit happens?
11- After every session (Assumedly all ended with Goodbye), What are the safety precautions I must follow to avoid any lingering nonsense?
12- How many questions am I allowed to ask per session? Is there a specific number or does it vary per session? If it varies, How do I know the current number of questions allowed for the current session WITHOUT having to waste 1 of my allowed questions on it? I heard that if I surpass the limit, The spirit will "come after me"
13- How do I make it so that I contact a specific person's spirit like a deceased family member or so? I keep hearing there are people having contacted their parents and stuff, So I don't think it's COMPLETELY at random who you end up talking to. There should be something done in order to contact a specific spirit. I'm curious what that thing is
14- If NOT a person, But an object ends up getting possessed by the contacted spirit, Would saying Goodbye return the spirit back to its world? Or does following all precautions correctly prevent possessions from happening to anything, Including objects?
15- What is the safest place to use an Ouija Board? I know your home, And graveyards are the worst places to use an Ouija Board in. How about the best places?
16- If I see a sign of an evil spirit, And I give an out loud signal for my mate to move to Goodbye, Can't the spirit just try to resist our movement towards the Goodbye? Or are we able to move the planchette by force against the spirit's will and go to the Goodbye by force? Or can it do dirty moves to interrupt us like punching in the face and stuff?
17- After finishing the session (Ending with Goodbye), We should keep the planchette away from the board, Right? If yes, What is the minimum distance we must keep between the two of them?
18- Do spirits understand questions asked out loud vocally? Or does everything have to be said through the planchette? If they CAN understand vocal questions, Do they count towards the questions number limit per session?
19- When you're using the planchette to talk, How do you leave spaces between words so you can write your sentences properly?
20- If I say stuff like "I love you" or "I'm sorry I failed to protect you" for example, Do these things count towards the questions number limit per session? They're Not questions, But do they still count towards my limit of questions per session?
21- Can an entity communicate with multiple Ouija Board users at the same time ? For example the Z entity. Is it possible that +2 people from different locations and boards get Unlucky enough to have the Z entity as their session partner (At the same time) ? Or can each entity only communicate with 1 user at a time ?
22- I heard that "MAMA" and "ZAZA" are alternative names of "ZOZO". Is this true? If yes, Then I would appreciate a full list of ALL of his names/nicknames just for the sake of awareness
23- I keep hearing instructions about never letting the Z entity do the 8-movement, and so on, so he doesn't get freed. I saw footage videos where he DID get free and even possess people. Doesn't that mean it's already too late, That he's already roaming in our world and is free to do whatever he wants? Or is it for a limited time only and then he returns back to his world, Then needs another Ouija user to free him once again? Same questions for other evil entities
24- Is the Z entity the only one who is commonly known for appearing so frequently in Ouija sessions? Or are there other entities who also appear so frequently? I would appreciate a full list of their names as well for the sake of awareness
Great video. Appreciate your understanding of the ouji board
Look at the studies about the practice of facilitative communication for individuals who are non verbal
I always feel energy over / in my hands moving the pointer yet when its just me moving it i dont get the energy 😊
I did and it flew across the room and never again
@@StarDustCrusaders12 did it really? I can't believe so many people say this and they are not lying
@@Chris-pq3wp the only reason I tried it myself was because my older sister always tried to scare me.. I thought she was doing it. So one day I decided to do it alone … I’m traumatized lol .seriously
@@StarDustCrusaders12 that's because subconsciously your angry at yourself lol
You can use a shot class as a Planchette. Just flip it upside-down, put your pointer finger and middle finger gentily on it and ask you questions.
so there are a cross road between science and the sooky! it is the mind aka placebo effect!
Yeah exactly :) The mind is so wonderfully complex---almost spooky in and of itself! There's so much we don't know about it, but what we are learning is fascinating!
@@theskepticalwitch6611 you are so right! there is so much we do not know about the mind and that is crazy as the mind is what shapes a good part of reality we live! we all so do not know a lot a bout the world still! it is fascinating to look at the new data. a cool TH-cam channel a bout new science theory to look at Dissident Science. do you identify as atheist? thanks for the reply!
@@jakemichael8586 ooh thank you for the recommendation! I’ll check it out! I identify as non-theistic and as a naturalistic pantheist, so I feel as though the cosmos is sacred, but don’t necessarily believe in anything “supernatural” :)
@@theskepticalwitch6611 ok so you are a atheist just not the garden variety. i just identify as atheist but do find the universe sacred as well. thanks for the reply take care!
Cool
Marry lou clark. Was real
I just realized you have no ability to donate to you. Why?
Thank you for thinking of donating to me! I currently don't have anything for that because I don't feel like I'm really offering anything at the minute that I would be comfortable accepting money for... I'm just making videos about things I 'm interested in :) I might start a Patreon in the future though where I'll maybe have some workshops and opportunities for discussions within the community, and bonus content.
@@theskepticalwitch6611 I don't know if you have seen Ocean Keltoi's video on Latent Christianity. If not I strongly recommend you watch it. What you are expressing is a Latent Christian belief based in the protestant work ethic. Your work only has value if you think it does. First... no. Humans are awful as valuing our own work. Second your expressed sentiment devalues those who value the work you are doing, both in becoming more educating, and in sharing your insight. Third Christianity in the US teaches us to see the offer of charity (ie non-forced exchange of goods and services) as a bad thing. I will call you to remember that charity in the pagan tradition is something different. It's a transaction to a member of the community not to paid back to the specific community member who offered the charity, but rather obligates the receiver to pay the charity forward.
If you do not want to start a patreon because you are concerned that no one or not enough people would contribute and the disappointment would be psychologically damaging. That I can accept. Make sure however that your motives for doing or not doing a thing are coming from the right place.
Narrative, narrative, narrative. The story we tell ourselves about ourselves and the way the world works are SUPER important.
From my personal perspective investing in you now will pay dividends down the road. It will benefit the community which will in direct and indirect ways benefit me later.
Again you do not have to do it especially if it will cause you distress. It is good to examine the motives. But hey... I'm just some rando on the internet.
Thanks very much for this great advice... I do think that so many of us feel this way about the content we produce, or whatever it may be. It is important to be conscious about the narratives we're applying to ourselves, and I really should be more aware of what narratives I'm using... I haven't seen Ocean Keltoi's video on Latent Christianity yet, but I will definitely check it out--it sounds incredibly interesting.
I think I will start a Patreon at some point... Maybe within the next couple months, when I have a bit more time to dedicate to my content :)
Hmmm....i dunno. I stil aint gonna fuck around with a Ouija board ever again.
Black magic
lol