Loved your review! Looking to get one for a brother in law for Christmas present in Florida I know you have the 12 volt Milwaukee installation driver. While I have some Milwaukee 12 volt tools, I went ahead and got the Bosch 12 volt kit at Lowes, was on sale $159 with 2 2.0ah batteries. The fit and feel of the unit, with 2 batteries, nicer directional switch, lockable accessories won me over. Much better than the older brushed unit. Tis the season, give me a reason to buy another tool, 😁 keep ‘‘em coming!
I've got a lot of Milwaukee products including cordless tools, but I never did care for the feeling of the grip on that installation tool. I know you're supposed to keep your index finger straight and use the rest of your fingers on the grip, which is the way it was designed, but I've tried all kinds of ways and nothing feels comfortable to me on that thing. So I opted for the DeWalt 12 volt extreme installation tool and I'm very happy with it
I've just bought this one and today I've tried it in cabinet mounting It is very powerful, conveniently small and very confortable and ergonomic, I've used it without and with all the heads, very helpful. Without the attachments, the basic tool looks like the dcf601 but this 703 is in my opinion too loud and noticeably louder than the dcd701 and while using the 703 i miss the quietness of the 601- may be it is unavoidably loud for the reason of being powerful and having a small body - I highly appreciate your reliable opinion on the following: - I owned the dcd701 that I sold recently to buy the dcd703 kit The dcd701 and dcd703 have officially the same torque and same rpm My question: if i use the 703 as drill driver with drill chuck/attachment if it would perform in power and speed as good as the 701 under same test parameters/conditions? Maybe with the 703, the full "power" can not be transfered to the front of the head due to the friction and vibrations of the attachment/adapter ? This may be causing a reduction in torque? What do you think ? Thank you
I’ll have to give you a comparison to the 703 and see how it goes. They are comparable from the testing I have done but I have never put them head to head. Stay tuned and I’ll try to sort it out in a future video.
I have the Bosch, Milwaukee and this one. The multi head drivers are my mini addiction, lol (impact drivers are my main). Definitely like the dewalt the best for comfort. I actually like the Bosch grip over the Milwaukee too. The Bosch and Milwaukee are the same except reversed, with the Bosch having the fatter part of the handle towards the front and Milwaukee towards the back. Small difference, but huge as far as comfort. The handle and the knuckle guard are the only thing I don’t like about the Milwaukee. Bosch also has an 18v version with an sds attachment, lol. Milwaukee had a patent for an 18v version as well. Metabo (not HPT) has a 12v version as well
I have been tempted by the 18v Bosch version but have never jumped on it. If they had it in store at lowes it might be a different story. I always act more impulsively at the store than online.
@@TinkerWithTools I’m the exact opposite, lol. I’m disciplined in store, but a sucker for an online sale 😬. In general I have a 50%-free rule. If I can get half off to free, I’ll jump on it. Thanks to TH-cam tool deal channels I probably have $6000 worth of gear I payed about $1500 for. Basically was able to get top tier Milwaukee and dewalt gear at ryobi prices, lol
I have the older brushed version of the Bosch. Also have a couple M12 tools. The Bosch grip is noticeably more comfortable. Also, the electronic forward/reverse switch on the Milwaukee is a no-go for me, especially with where they placed it. Most of what I have is Dewalt 20v. Would love if they made this in the atomic line. Paired with a powerstack battery would be perfect.
It would make an incredible atomic tool. Honestly the newer atomic impact driver paired with the powerstack really aren't that much larger than a 12v tool with a larger battery. But the power difference is remarkable.
Very good review. But you forgot the Metabo Powermaxx BS 12 BL Q. It's since 2014 available. You will also find from Mafell, because Metabo produce Drill Driver for them. It is also available (I guess since 2019) with a sliding battery. The good thing on the Metabo is, you can use it with the Festool Centrotec and the chucks and attachment from the big Brother: Metabo BS 18 LTX BL Q And last but not least, you can charge the Metabo 12V and 18V sliding battery with the same charger. Thanks for your work and your review. I liked it. Espacially the history part :-)
I have considered getting that Metabo a time or two but I believe it’s a brushed motor. That has been the main deterrent. Thanks for the comment and info.
@@TinkerWithTools No, it is a brushless motor. You can see it by the "BL" in the name of the tool. BS = Bohrschrauber (Drill Driver) BL = Brushless Q = Quick System
Milwaukee did make a 12v Fuel brushless multi drill M12 FPDX with the forward and reverse switch where we like it above the trigger, two speed 450rpm and 1700rpm, hammer action, 3 attachments, offset 90 degree and chuck, I have two. They also make a brushed version so that would be 3 different multi or installation drill drivers
I have seen this offered in Europe. Unfortunately the drill tool only is only available through eBay for me and it would be almost $100 more than a full kit just for the tool body only plus a single chuck. Hopefully a gen 2 can bring this to my market too.
I haven’t had a chance to try to the FPDX but if it’s similar to the current generation of M12 stuff then they are similar. The hammer feature is nice but it’s more made for lighter duty stuff.
I used a 1 1/2" hole saw with the Milwaukee version of this tool one time in pinch and it didn't love it but it did get the job done. The DeWalt seemed to be more powerful so I would guess you could do it in a pinch. I'll try it out next time I get a chance and maybe make a short about it.
@@matsudakodo Either that, or DeWalt’s rating isn’t based off of power, but instead based off of durability (with some headroom to account for people going above rating).
I do wish that there would be tools like this in the 18/20v category. Currently Bosch has one that I have also tested on the channel, but I can say that I would choose to 12v varieties more for the size and weight savings. For what's its worth, the DeWalt 12v can be charged on the 20v charger.
I did a video on it and it didn’t end well since the Bosch started smoking. That being said I do like the Bosch and still have it. I just wish it had performed better in testing.
& that other Dewalt right angle attachment gizmo flops around like a dr Zeus, cat in the hat, homer mobile, flinging itself,&/or whatever it’s got on it in any direction✋😕(not too gr8).
There is a single LED down on the base by the battery. It isnt as effective as it would be up by the chuck but given the interchangeable heads I think it was the only option.
If I could explain about anything with tools right now it's the lack of tool only on newer tools especially. I can understand why they do it to try and maximize what people will spend but for someone like you or I it almost acts like a deterrent to buying the tool. I'm that way right now with a new impact from Metabo HPT... I have 4 batteries already and don't really want more.
DeWalt doesn’t quote torque figures on the drilling tools, instead using unit watts out(UWO). I would say it’s so where close to 300 inch pounds. The UWO is at 255.
@iangregoryhome that's really just a personal preference thing. Some of us really don't like those girthy grips or the awkward shape of the batteries when it comes to storing and carrying them
@@iangregoryhomeI have both brands in 12V. Having part of battery going in the handle makes the milwaukee tool not optimally comfortable in the hand like the dewalt, and I do not have small hands. While using Milwaukee I miss the nice grip and comfort of the dewalt
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Excellent review. Mine arrives today.
Loved your review! Looking to get one for a brother in law for Christmas present in Florida
I know you have the 12 volt Milwaukee installation driver. While I have some Milwaukee 12 volt tools, I went ahead and got the Bosch 12 volt kit at Lowes, was on sale $159 with 2 2.0ah batteries.
The fit and feel of the unit, with 2 batteries, nicer directional switch, lockable accessories won me over. Much better than the older brushed unit. Tis the season, give me a reason to buy another tool, 😁 keep ‘‘em coming!
Funny you should mention the Bosch. It founds it way into my cart on the last sale as well. Full video with my thoughts coming up.
I'm getting myself one of these tomorrow, Cheers
I think you’ll enjoy it.
Sir love the reviews so glad I have found your channel
Thanks I appreciate it.
I've got a lot of Milwaukee products including cordless tools, but I never did care for the feeling of the grip on that installation tool. I know you're supposed to keep your index finger straight and use the rest of your fingers on the grip, which is the way it was designed, but I've tried all kinds of ways and nothing feels comfortable to me on that thing. So I opted for the DeWalt 12 volt extreme installation tool and I'm very happy with it
Nothing wrong with the Dewalt. I get what you are saying even if the grip doesn't bother me personally.
I've just bought this one and today I've tried it in cabinet mounting
It is very powerful, conveniently small and very confortable and ergonomic, I've used it without and with all the heads, very helpful.
Without the attachments, the basic tool looks like the dcf601 but this 703 is in my opinion too loud and noticeably louder than the dcd701 and while using the 703 i miss the quietness of the 601- may be it is unavoidably loud for the reason of being powerful and having a small body
- I highly appreciate your reliable opinion on the following:
- I owned the dcd701 that I sold recently to buy the dcd703 kit
The dcd701 and dcd703 have officially the same torque and same rpm
My question: if i use the 703 as drill driver with drill chuck/attachment if it would perform in power and speed as good as the 701 under same test parameters/conditions?
Maybe with the 703, the full "power" can not be transfered to the front of the head due to the friction and vibrations of the attachment/adapter ? This may be causing a reduction in torque?
What do you think ?
Thank you
I’ll have to give you a comparison to the 703 and see how it goes. They are comparable from the testing I have done but I have never put them head to head. Stay tuned and I’ll try to sort it out in a future video.
@@TinkerWithTools it would be great of you to see it 👍😀
Many thanks 🫡
I have the Bosch, Milwaukee and this one. The multi head drivers are my mini addiction, lol (impact drivers are my main). Definitely like the dewalt the best for comfort. I actually like the Bosch grip over the Milwaukee too. The Bosch and Milwaukee are the same except reversed, with the Bosch having the fatter part of the handle towards the front and Milwaukee towards the back. Small difference, but huge as far as comfort. The handle and the knuckle guard are the only thing I don’t like about the Milwaukee. Bosch also has an 18v version with an sds attachment, lol. Milwaukee had a patent for an 18v version as well. Metabo (not HPT) has a 12v version as well
I have been tempted by the 18v Bosch version but have never jumped on it. If they had it in store at lowes it might be a different story. I always act more impulsively at the store than online.
@@TinkerWithTools I’m the exact opposite, lol. I’m disciplined in store, but a sucker for an online sale 😬. In general I have a 50%-free rule. If I can get half off to free, I’ll jump on it. Thanks to TH-cam tool deal channels I probably have $6000 worth of gear I payed about $1500 for. Basically was able to get top tier Milwaukee and dewalt gear at ryobi prices, lol
I have the older brushed version of the Bosch. Also have a couple M12 tools. The Bosch grip is noticeably more comfortable. Also, the electronic forward/reverse switch on the Milwaukee is a no-go for me, especially with where they placed it. Most of what I have is Dewalt 20v. Would love if they made this in the atomic line. Paired with a powerstack battery would be perfect.
It would make an incredible atomic tool. Honestly the newer atomic impact driver paired with the powerstack really aren't that much larger than a 12v tool with a larger battery. But the power difference is remarkable.
Very good review. But you forgot the Metabo Powermaxx BS 12 BL Q. It's since 2014 available. You will also find from Mafell, because Metabo produce Drill Driver for them.
It is also available (I guess since 2019) with a sliding battery. The good thing on the Metabo is, you can use it with the Festool Centrotec and the chucks and attachment from the big Brother: Metabo BS 18 LTX BL Q
And last but not least, you can charge the Metabo 12V and 18V sliding battery with the same charger.
Thanks for your work and your review. I liked it. Espacially the history part :-)
I have considered getting that Metabo a time or two but I believe it’s a brushed motor. That has been the main deterrent. Thanks for the comment and info.
@@TinkerWithTools No, it is a brushless motor. You can see it by the "BL" in the name of the tool.
BS = Bohrschrauber (Drill Driver)
BL = Brushless
Q = Quick System
Along with installing things can this be used as a low torque power screwdriver? I'm trying to see what all the possible use cases for this are.
Yes, it actually has similar power to their 12v screwdriver.
Milwaukee did make a 12v Fuel brushless multi drill M12 FPDX with the forward and reverse switch where we like it above the trigger, two speed 450rpm and 1700rpm, hammer action, 3 attachments, offset 90 degree and chuck, I have two. They also make a brushed version so that would be 3 different multi or installation drill drivers
I have seen this offered in Europe. Unfortunately the drill tool only is only available through eBay for me and it would be almost $100 more than a full kit just for the tool body only plus a single chuck. Hopefully a gen 2 can bring this to my market too.
Is the Dewalt better or the Milwaukee FPDX ? I am debating between both. Milwaukee has hammer feature
I haven’t had a chance to try to the FPDX but if it’s similar to the current generation of M12 stuff then they are similar. The hammer feature is nice but it’s more made for lighter duty stuff.
@@TinkerWithTools whats the dewalt max torque?
Nice video. They advertise it can use up to a 1/2" spade bit. Do you think it could handle a 3/4" spade?
I used a 1 1/2" hole saw with the Milwaukee version of this tool one time in pinch and it didn't love it but it did get the job done. The DeWalt seemed to be more powerful so I would guess you could do it in a pinch. I'll try it out next time I get a chance and maybe make a short about it.
@@TinkerWithTools thanks. I found another video where they used a 1", so they are underrating it
@@matsudakodo Either that, or DeWalt’s rating isn’t based off of power, but instead based off of durability (with some headroom to account for people going above rating).
why not 20v? now i have to carry two different charger for my other 20vs
I do wish that there would be tools like this in the 18/20v category. Currently Bosch has one that I have also tested on the channel, but I can say that I would choose to 12v varieties more for the size and weight savings. For what's its worth, the DeWalt 12v can be charged on the 20v charger.
that lux like Dewalts QlSt👌
Whats your opinion of the bosch 18v version of this?
I did a video on it and it didn’t end well since the Bosch started smoking. That being said I do like the Bosch and still have it. I just wish it had performed better in testing.
Excellent Drill/Driver
& that other Dewalt right angle attachment gizmo flops around like a dr Zeus, cat in the hat, homer mobile, flinging itself,&/or whatever it’s got on it in any direction✋😕(not too gr8).
Is there LED lights?
There is a single LED down on the base by the battery. It isnt as effective as it would be up by the chuck but given the interchangeable heads I think it was the only option.
I wish they sell this with tool only and no battery since I have plenty of 12v batteries already.
If I could explain about anything with tools right now it's the lack of tool only on newer tools especially. I can understand why they do it to try and maximize what people will spend but for someone like you or I it almost acts like a deterrent to buying the tool. I'm that way right now with a new impact from Metabo HPT... I have 4 batteries already and don't really want more.
@@TinkerWithTools yeh good observation. I notice that as well. Especially with drill type tools.
What is its torque?
DeWalt doesn’t quote torque figures on the drilling tools, instead using unit watts out(UWO). I would say it’s so where close to 300 inch pounds. The UWO is at 255.
@@TinkerWithTools thank you 👍
All that workshop gear but no clamp to hold your work piece!? 🙈😜
yeah, that video was early on in the channel... I still had much to learn.
OH, so it's not an impact driver. So don't get this if you wanted an impact driver. The 20v DeWalt 1/4" impact driver is my most used power tool.
No it isn’t a impact driver but i still find myself going for this type of tool plenty.
It’s just too big compared to the Bosch.
DeWalt years behind the rest and not the best design, come on DeWalt we know you can do better.
Just curious but which design do you prefer
@@TinkerWithTools I would like the DeWalt with a battery which is in the housing/handle like the Bosch, Milwaukee etc.
@@iangregoryhome one advantage is you can use the same charger for the 12 and 20v batteries which is pretty sweet
@iangregoryhome that's really just a personal preference thing. Some of us really don't like those girthy grips or the awkward shape of the batteries when it comes to storing and carrying them
@@iangregoryhomeI have both brands in 12V. Having part of battery going in the handle makes the milwaukee tool not optimally comfortable in the hand like the dewalt, and I do not have small hands.
While using Milwaukee I miss the nice grip and comfort of the dewalt