Why Nemesis Gave Up On Vel'Koz...

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ความคิดเห็น • 106

  • @Traubenbecher
    @Traubenbecher 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +297

    velkoz is pain and suffering

    • @deadlyvphantom1160
      @deadlyvphantom1160 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      Vel'koz is just like me fr

    • @saidgutierrez2253
      @saidgutierrez2253 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Thats what makes him fun to master

    • @BenjaminRegen
      @BenjaminRegen 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Wait, he is? Weird. I didn't notice.

    • @xArtemis131
      @xArtemis131 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I have more in common with velkoz than i thought

    • @madcatsk
      @madcatsk 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      thats why its so good to play him, you need actual skill not like brainless champions that came last years

  • @deadlyvphantom1160
    @deadlyvphantom1160 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +178

    I love this analysis of a high elo player playing Vel'koz. Would love to see more

    • @MoonBeautySabata
      @MoonBeautySabata 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

      That would require there to be more than a single high elo player that plays velkoz.

    • @deadlyvphantom1160
      @deadlyvphantom1160 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      TRUE@@MoonBeautySabata

  • @SpookSkellington
    @SpookSkellington 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +243

    Ok but what if they very slightly changed Vel'koz?
    His Q could be a sphere (2 charges) that rapidly casts on your cursor for high damage
    His W could pick up that sphere, to throw it at enemies to slow them
    His E could be a knockback that also displaces spheres, stunning enemies if they get hit by them
    His ult could just launch all the spheres at an enemy for massive damage.
    I think that would make him MUCH easier to play honestly

    • @BlackRockShooter002
      @BlackRockShooter002 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +59

      Also u can get ult stacking passive and after getting certain ammount of stacks ur ult should execute , that also would be good change

    • @carrotfarmer1
      @carrotfarmer1 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +82

      make him look like an anime girl as well, that way he would be more popular and get more buffs

    • @Vladumere
      @Vladumere 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +61

      The fact that it took me till the w to realize this was just syndras kit is kinda embarrassing lmao

    • @recolinotyu
      @recolinotyu 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

      Or maybe:
      His Q could be a sphere that gets thrown on your cursor for high damage
      His W could make the spere instantly deal AOE damage and slow targets and give speed to everyone
      His E could be a shield that also displaces sphere to you, also dealing damage if they get hit by them
      His ult could just launch all the peoples into the sphere for massive damage and aoe displacement

    • @fobinc
      @fobinc 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I see the secret whispers of the Syndra cult. Time to join.

  • @Damnusernamestaken
    @Damnusernamestaken 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +58

    Playing Vel'Koz is like playing a lefty guitar while being a righty, and playing an odd time signature, while being upside down and underwater - all that with an alternate tuning.

    • @LAM1895
      @LAM1895 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      As both a musician and a Vel'Koz main, I'd play Vel'Koz over any of these things alone all day 😅

    • @Damnusernamestaken
      @Damnusernamestaken 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hahaha, same

    • @Jon14141
      @Jon14141 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Nice @@LAM1895

    • @bloody-fire
      @bloody-fire 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      well, you basically described Buster Odelholm and his band Humanity's Last Breath lol

    • @Damnusernamestaken
      @Damnusernamestaken 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@bloody-fire damn, I didn't even know Buster was the drummer from Vildhjarta. Thanks, I'll look into it!

  • @thenumber24spiral
    @thenumber24spiral 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +27

    if velkoz is pain and suffering then i am a masochist i GENUINELY LOVE playing velkoz, i LOVE HAVING A SKILLSHOT ORIENTED CHARACTER, that looks genuinely SO FUCKING COOL HOLY SHIT GIANT EYEBALL WITH 3 TENTACLES HOLY FUUCK I LOVE VELKOZ, im genuinely SERIOUS I DONT WANT TO PLAY AUTO ATTACK BASED CHAMPION I DONT WANT TO ENGAGE I DONT WANT TO HEAL I DONT WANT TO DO ANY OF THESE THINGS I WANNA SIT IN THE BACK, CHUCK ALL MY SKILLSHOTS, DEAL 2000 TRUE DAMAGE, i genuinely FUCKING LOOOOOVVEEEE VEELKKOZZZZ

  • @Scorpio789123
    @Scorpio789123 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    50 eliminations in 20 minutes, 5 years ago we would call that silver

  • @MrPada143
    @MrPada143 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    This was greeeeat to watch. I learned alot. I would love to see this type of stuff now and again.

  • @Letsgo_NMIXX
    @Letsgo_NMIXX 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +57

    It's so funny to see a great player like Nemesis suffering from playing vel'koz. Now one can see how weak the champion is and how much skill you need in order to play it in high elo.

  • @AgainPsychoX
    @AgainPsychoX 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    Nemesis has cat cam :Pog: Why Azzapp has no doggo cam :Madge:

    • @KoldIce7
      @KoldIce7 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      i can get behind this idea

  • @Lunai5444
    @Lunai5444 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    5:25 Exactly, I truly believe Yone is insane I legit wait for someone to teach me his flaws. You can outplay Yone as much as you want literally sidestep his Q and shit and yet you still get plastered when he E and beats you repeatedly with his sharp stick, impossible to outrade in E and you cannot avoid trading since it dashes the full length of the lane when he has E Q3.
    Happens to me on champs like Taliyah who is supposed to counter him and still gets the stick regardless of any stuns and W hits.
    "Just respect Q3" sure but in the end he decides everything like hes a tinder hot girl.
    Surely sometimes you get some ruthless poke in land everything and space perfectly but 99% of the time if you dare hit him he empties his kit and flattens your healthbar

  • @SIAsLearningHub
    @SIAsLearningHub 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    Simple, I see velkoz + Azapp = i click

    • @AKAtwofaced
      @AKAtwofaced 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      + like + comment

  • @RodrigoAlves-yr1ct
    @RodrigoAlves-yr1ct 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    16:59 velkoz gaming

  • @KurzedMetal
    @KurzedMetal 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    My two favorite streamers in the same video Pog

  • @Omni4041
    @Omni4041 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    You either go dark harvest or comet on vel'koz, for first item recomended Imperian. got S+ 2 times in a row support role with teleport combo use W to apply passive than use Q for max demage and/or E for stun or R to finish it of also dont use R untill u apply pasive on enemy or it wont deal any demage, with passive R masive demage. U can deal from 600/700 all the way up to 800 demage if passiwe applied on Q with dark harvest and some items well good luck

    • @NEC234
      @NEC234 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Wow you solved the problem!

  • @LAM1895
    @LAM1895 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    It's like he says, to land those skills shots you need to position yourself in a way that makes it easier to hit the enemy. If you are against melee champs you can make them chase you and put skills shots in their path towards you. By zoning them you can make their path predictable and trap them in the angle of the Q. W is easier to hit through minions, so you can use it to stack the passive and bait them to jump on you to land the Q point blank and proc the passive at the same time, dealing massive damage. The E should be used either defensively close to you or when you are sure they can't evade it anymore.

  • @BigMuskachini
    @BigMuskachini 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    vel'koz is fine. just give ori and syndra real mana costs so they cant play urf from lvl 1

  • @JSythe
    @JSythe 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I wonder if the short ranged sub second knock up long delay long cooldown has something to do with it.

  • @LAM1895
    @LAM1895 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    About building Rylai's on Vel'Koz it's true you don't get as much value as other champs but I think it's still worth it for the additional bulk and the fact that your W is the easiest to land so you can apply the slow more effectively. It also synergizes well with the ult. Plus if you have Liandry's it extends the duration.

  • @jansond3917
    @jansond3917 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    litherally everyone hates playing into yone but hes meta in to lanes. zed is held weakish because everyone hates to play against him. why not nerf the fucking yone w at least

  • @saulmorales1830
    @saulmorales1830 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Has he talked about Zoe before? I feel like some of these concepts definitely apply to her Paddle Star (Q) as well, but somehow I feel he will say she is easy to play lol

    • @SassyRiolu
      @SassyRiolu 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Zoe is super fucking hard to play because she's so unconventional. Sure, her basic (and most toxic) combo is simple to do, but going about everything (laning, positioning in team fights) is different to other mages

  • @LAM1895
    @LAM1895 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Playing Vel'Koz is like using a glass cannon. You can easily destroy your enemies but you can also easily get destroyed. More often than not you can't carry because you can make 100 good plays but just one bad play and it's over. So when you play this champ make sure you have reliable teammates and at least one good front liner that can take the aggro off of you.

    • @johnkirk1772
      @johnkirk1772 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I feel like velkoz as a champ is just obsolete.. is there anything he can do better than other champs (aka is he ever best in slot)?
      would you ever pick velkoz over Syndra? all his power is in his q which you need to be surgical to hit especially during laning - his w does next to nothing for you - he is super immobile (Syndra knock-back is far superior to e and buys space easier aka can't be jumped as easy, her poke lands easier, she scales better, executes just as well)..velkoz is almost like Morgana where all the power centres around her relatively slow moving hard to hit q that can't pass through minions
      its like whenever I want to go Morgana, I can just go lux instead - bind can travel through minions, higher damage output, better range
      when I want to go velkoz, I can just go syndra instead
      there is just no slot in which velkoz would be a better pick as a control mage, hence he is obsolete - imagine how much better you have to execute on that champ to achieve the same result

    • @LAM1895
      @LAM1895 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@johnkirk1772 Well first of all he does true damage from the start of the game which no other pure mage can do except Ahri on her Q return. So he has higher damage potential early because a good chunk of his damage ignores magic resist. Second, his ult converts into true damage if you proc his passive, which simply melts tanks with high resistances like butter. Third, the Q may take precision to land but it’s unique in many ways. It splits into 2 at an angle and when it does so it disappears momentarily. So you can hit around targets, corner an opponent between the angle and terrain and add delay to have the right timing. Once I even managed to hit Yasuo through his wind wall by timing the split when it was almost on top of it by accident. So in short he has his strong points, though I agree his kit and scaling are lackluster compared to the recently released champions with crazy damage and mobility and overloaded kits.

    • @MisterAssasine
      @MisterAssasine 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      we know his kit, doesnt make him better than for example a syndra that also does true dmg at a time she starts facing tanks and later executes@@LAM1895

  • @Soulless_Elf
    @Soulless_Elf 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    I get the point of Nemesis but he himself chose to play Vel'Koz into Yone. It's like picking Malphite into Sylas and saying that Malphite suck (ofc it's not that extream but still)

    • @Wildcat12
      @Wildcat12 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Even then he did very well in lane plus got fed and Yone was still able to win the game by facerolling his keyboard in side lane as per usual

    • @Soulless_Elf
      @Soulless_Elf 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@Wildcat12 yeah, but it doesn't have to do much with Vel'Koz

    • @dany5ful
      @dany5ful 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It's honestly not that bad, I mean, if you are not in lane with sylas its bad bc he can use your ult to gain advantage in lane, but I have played malphite vs sylas in top and you can actually outplay him most of the time.

    • @captain7883
      @captain7883 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yes and then he also didn't use his advantages by deciding not to back a couple of times when he had tp ready, forcing him to take fights with item and hp disadvantage. Could have gone way better for him.

  • @joeunger8289
    @joeunger8289 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Everytime I've played vel'koz into yone I've absolutely stomped him

  • @akumashisen4581
    @akumashisen4581 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    i might be just emerald hardstuck vel otp
    but didnt he fuck his wave up again pushing 13:00?
    and starting the getting zoned off cycle again?
    i get that after the next wave it will be pushed further away but atleast you have 30 seconds where yone has to walk up a bit where you might get some yone hp

    • @ViktorLoR_Mainu
      @ViktorLoR_Mainu 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      We dont talk too much about the mistakes of high level players, they know what they do wrong when they look at their vods the next day, and we can all tell that theyve made a mistake cause we are addicted to the content

    • @akumashisen4581
      @akumashisen4581 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ViktorLoR_Mainu i was more surprised that azzapp didnt mention it as i feel like its something that makes vel feel shitty bc you pushed a wave too early

  • @parry5703
    @parry5703 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I like Vel’koz, I truly like the guy, from the design to the league’s lore around him. That's why he's in my champ pool.
    Pain and suffering are what comes along the way.

  • @Heosine.
    @Heosine. 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The philosophy and origin of landing skill

  • @bardol359
    @bardol359 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    This whole game I was wondering if vel'koz is shit or if yone is just borken

    • @JomosAether
      @JomosAether 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Both

    • @phoux_x
      @phoux_x 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Also the guy between the monitor and the chair have seriously skill issue

  • @creeper_porridge9392
    @creeper_porridge9392 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    nemesis knows the secret strat, give the gaming chair to your cat and use office chair, gg

  • @jxstified7558
    @jxstified7558 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I have to agree with nemesis on this where unless you just like the champ why would you intentionally pick a champ that isnt as good and is harder to play than something broken?

  • @qraon5013
    @qraon5013 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    like i know nemesis is good hes way better than me but it feels like he dosent uderstand vel'koz or panth cause he ults into panth e and holds it for half a second after

  • @HasanBasriy
    @HasanBasriy 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Even me being iron player can see some crazy moves from Nemesis. You just need to know this champ before judging.

  • @GeninGeo
    @GeninGeo 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    idk how saying that ability its really hard to land it isnt just saying that i dont have the skill to land the ability. Unless ur saying that its slow there fore its hard to land but its just a line skill shot its not a voli E

    • @GeninGeo
      @GeninGeo 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      4:00 auto attacks on a mage. what is this sorcery

  • @UTooPerfecto
    @UTooPerfecto 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    That's litreally me. seeing a dude playing Vel'koz so well and then jump in to play it and realising i'm not "HIM". but don't get me wrong i find playing Vel'koz it's fun tho

  • @kimsteen8185
    @kimsteen8185 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    DANNY PHANTOM?

  • @yzalexandrovna4082
    @yzalexandrovna4082 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    remember guys, nemesis forced to play velkoz on worlds beside he hate the pick. poor nemesis.

  • @sylent0253
    @sylent0253 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    the comment on syndra w doing too much damage while velcoz no is bs. Ori w deleted champs , tf w has really good damage . Everyone besides velcoz has good w

  • @rockzilla5098
    @rockzilla5098 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    S+ him in Aram yesterday and I would legit be iron if I hopped into ranked….

  • @AgainPsychoX
    @AgainPsychoX 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    velkoz is pain and suffering...
    ...
    ... that's why we like it :azzaUncanny:

  • @UltraDumbass
    @UltraDumbass 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Vel koz is bad in mid, but if hes the enemy supp, hes the biggest demon out there, with the most braindead ult.

    • @Arkanna96
      @Arkanna96 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      *disclaimer* unless his enemy supp is Xerath, then you cry cz his excessively long range bs is easier to land than Vel. Other than the ult, but if you're close enough to land Vel ult on Xerath he's likely close enough to interrupt it

  • @fobinc
    @fobinc 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    All I heard 4 mins in is Nemesis needs coaching on geometry.

  • @NotA1DeathLeaver
    @NotA1DeathLeaver 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Took me 20 minutes to notice there's a cat cam xd

  • @yukinohazuki9918
    @yukinohazuki9918 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Rylai ?...why ?

  • @hazzg3163
    @hazzg3163 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    One must imagine Vel"koz players happy

  • @speednoxis
    @speednoxis 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    For a champ with a big eyeball he doesn't see very much

  • @poom323
    @poom323 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    It's kinda wierd for me that many people say Vel'koz Q is hard to land. For me it's a lot easier than landing Yasuo Q. Most player have no clue how to dodge it if Vel'koz player use it properly.

    • @youen5567
      @youen5567 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      Yasuo's Q and some other spells go through minions and champs. So if your target is behind you can still hit it. While with vel'koz you have to avoid the things between you and your target. That's the pleasure of playing vel'koz but it does make it harder to hit the target consistently

    • @John-od8zv
      @John-od8zv 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      Weird exaggeration, but ok

    • @GlacialScion
      @GlacialScion 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Stuff like this is way different when you're trying to hit Chellenger players.

  • @extreme123dz
    @extreme123dz 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Its simple, nemesis on Velkoz is a fucking manco (search manco in spanish :3) and thats it.

  • @pwnwin
    @pwnwin 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Holy shit. Thanks for reminding me NOT to play this champion.

  • @user-cq8kd7nx3d
    @user-cq8kd7nx3d 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The way that guy play Vel'Koz make me angry I can't finish vid because of this whiny little B

  • @flaxmolo350
    @flaxmolo350 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    🐄

  • @sirsocal
    @sirsocal 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Azzapp >>> Nemesis

  • @princessmc1826
    @princessmc1826 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    🧐

  • @thelordofthelostbraincells
    @thelordofthelostbraincells 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Its literally a skill issue for Nemesis. He's just bad

  • @TheJerbol
    @TheJerbol 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    because it is a bad champion, by every objective measure out there?

  • @Uthael_Kileanea
    @Uthael_Kileanea 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'm scrolling, looking for the GASLIGHTING comment. Where is it?

  • @Thomas-lh4hf
    @Thomas-lh4hf 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Best Velkoz player in the world here -
    ( Myself, not azzap or the whiner )
    Velkoz is great.
    End of story. And if anyone ... ANYONE in the world wants the pain, you'll get it FROM Velkoz ! MVP

    • @Meowsamurai
      @Meowsamurai 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ye, you'll get it from playing Vel'koz, true

  • @aldebearan444
    @aldebearan444 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Wouldnt it be funny if the VelKoz community realized they were just whining about their Champ being weak and low tier to cope like every other gamer in history? I like this guy but cut the shit. You picked a low tier character, execute and excell or shut up and accept your fate. Its kind of embarassing.