Interesting alternative review from the Believeintherun one that I watched on the Rocket X 2 the other day. Definitely looks like it may have heel rub issues for a number of people and I can't really see it being the best carbon racer for many people at the minute (although a huge leap forwards for HOKA). Happy to stick with my current race shoe line up of Wave Rebellion Pro, Endorphin Elite and the Metaspeed Sky+ 🙂 Favouring the Endorphin Elite for Copenhagen Marathon atm as opposed to most reviews online my early feel for the shoe is that it is extremely good when I back off and run at goal MP (better than it is for the quicker stuff where maybe the Wave Rebellion Pro could be my pick). Raced in the Endorphin Elite over a Half at the weekend and the only negative was lack of grip on some tight corners and especially when hitting dirt at the sides of roads or fine grains of dry sand on Yarmouth promenade. Wave Rebellion Pro has wonderful grip though and the Sky+ is very good too. I actually think that the Endorphin Elite has had a pretty hard time from then reviews online mainly down to Saucony's high pricing of the shoe. I found the Pro 3 a great training shoe but too soft for later stages of a Marathon when the legs are tired. The Endorphin Elite sounded like it would rectify that with the firmer HG foam and I got mine with a 15% discount bringing them down to £238 (still expensive and £18 more than I have paid on any other shoe but was somewhat offset by picking up the Wave Rebellion Pro for £169 which is an absolute steal for a shoe that good).
I'll wait for a new upper on the next version before I buy these. Too many proven marathon racers out there already at the same or lower price. Glad to see Hoka finally moving forward!
Just did a 10K race (hilly one in Ireland) and PB'd by almost 4 mins! Great shoe! No hotspots or toe squash for me but I sized up a half. Love the bounce and energy return. Stable'ish for me but it deffo didn't like slower paces...Speed 3s better at slower work but not as punchy as the RX2 at faster race pace cruising. Can do 10K to full I am thinking for me.
I would have bought this shoe if the store had my size available. It just felt perfect and natural to run with. I ended up getting NB Fuelcell SC Elite V3's instead because they were the second best option for me. You thought those were better so now I don't regret my decision
I usually can't run in Hoka because they are narrow... The exception is the Mach 5 which is quite wide in the toebox. Is the Rocket X2 wider than the Mach 5..? Wider than the Rocket X V1?
@@LeonAl-hl1yl yeah it a tough task ask these days with these new "super" shoes that seemingly are maybe nearly as good as the one(s) you already have but for probably more money as new shoes don't typically release on a discount.
Great review as always, but where’s the Vaporfly 3 review?! Waiting to decide if I should just get a discounted V2, but my size is “running” out of stock! 😬
Apologies for the offtopic, but am I the only one waiting for Vaporfly 3 review? Again, not to say that Hoka or any other brand are not important, but vaporfly is THE supershoe. and the emergence supersheoes contributed to the greater popularity of shoe rotations (since nobody will train exclusively in supershoes) and has therefore increased overall interest in shoe review channels like Run Testers (which is the best, imho).
Was wondering your thoughts on the HOKA X2 vs Saucony Endorphin Speed 3 for a marathon? and even as a everyday shoe, currently run in the Saucony Endorphin speed 3 and like your reviews absolutely love it but might be considering going for the HOKA, thanks
I also suffered from the heel rub and had to return the shoe unfortunately . As I do get along with other Hoka shoes in general this was disappointing as the foam felt amazing .
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Interesting alternative review from the Believeintherun one that I watched on the Rocket X 2 the other day.
Definitely looks like it may have heel rub issues for a number of people and I can't really see it being the best carbon racer for many people at the minute (although a huge leap forwards for HOKA).
Happy to stick with my current race shoe line up of Wave Rebellion Pro, Endorphin Elite and the Metaspeed Sky+ 🙂 Favouring the Endorphin Elite for Copenhagen Marathon atm as opposed to most reviews online my early feel for the shoe is that it is extremely good when I back off and run at goal MP (better than it is for the quicker stuff where maybe the Wave Rebellion Pro could be my pick). Raced in the Endorphin Elite over a Half at the weekend and the only negative was lack of grip on some tight corners and especially when hitting dirt at the sides of roads or fine grains of dry sand on Yarmouth promenade. Wave Rebellion Pro has wonderful grip though and the Sky+ is very good too.
I actually think that the Endorphin Elite has had a pretty hard time from then reviews online mainly down to Saucony's high pricing of the shoe. I found the Pro 3 a great training shoe but too soft for later stages of a Marathon when the legs are tired. The Endorphin Elite sounded like it would rectify that with the firmer HG foam and I got mine with a 15% discount bringing them down to £238 (still expensive and £18 more than I have paid on any other shoe but was somewhat offset by picking up the Wave Rebellion Pro for £169 which is an absolute steal for a shoe that good).
I'll wait for a new upper on the next version before I buy these. Too many proven marathon racers out there already at the same or lower price. Glad to see Hoka finally moving forward!
Just did a 10K race (hilly one in Ireland) and PB'd by almost 4 mins! Great shoe! No hotspots or toe squash for me but I sized up a half. Love the bounce and energy return. Stable'ish for me but it deffo didn't like slower paces...Speed 3s better at slower work but not as punchy as the RX2 at faster race pace cruising. Can do 10K to full I am thinking for me.
Is it narrow or wide?
I’ve been really excited for this one. That heel rub might be a dealbreaker though. Heard that from a couple of reviewers now. 😬
I would have bought this shoe if the store had my size available. It just felt perfect and natural to run with. I ended up getting NB Fuelcell SC Elite V3's instead because they were the second best option for me. You thought those were better so now I don't regret my decision
I usually can't run in Hoka because they are narrow... The exception is the Mach 5 which is quite wide in the toebox. Is the Rocket X2 wider than the Mach 5..? Wider than the Rocket X V1?
It’s reasonably narrow, probably fairly similar to Mach I’d say
So executive summary - if you only wear Hoka then you have something better. Otherwise don't waste £220 !
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Yup.
The same would apply for most Carbon racers in the market right now unless you get them on massive discounts
@@LeonAl-hl1yl yeah it a tough task ask these days with these new "super" shoes that seemingly are maybe nearly as good as the one(s) you already have but for probably more money as new shoes don't typically release on a discount.
Great review as always, but where’s the Vaporfly 3 review?! Waiting to decide if I should just get a discounted V2, but my size is “running” out of stock! 😬
I Would go with the v2 👍
Apologies for the offtopic, but am I the only one waiting for Vaporfly 3 review? Again, not to say that Hoka or any other brand are not important, but vaporfly is THE supershoe. and the emergence supersheoes contributed to the greater popularity of shoe rotations (since nobody will train exclusively in supershoes) and has therefore increased overall interest in shoe review channels like Run Testers (which is the best, imho).
We’re yet to get hold of it but will review ASAP when we do! Very keen to test as you can imagine
Was wondering your thoughts on the HOKA X2 vs Saucony Endorphin Speed 3 for a marathon? and even as a everyday shoe, currently run in the Saucony Endorphin speed 3 and like your reviews absolutely love it but might be considering going for the HOKA, thanks
I also suffered from the heel rub and had to return the shoe unfortunately . As I do get along with other Hoka shoes in general this was disappointing as the foam felt amazing .
How does it compare to the endorphin pro 3?
I’d rather buy multiple pairs of the pro 3 then a pair of these hokas
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Apart from not having the offset lacing, it looks like a Vaporfly V1 to me and I'd rather have a pair of them...
Do these run wide or narrow?
At least in my opinion the first Hoka rocket that actually looks good. I wasn't a fan of the design of the older models.
Never mind the shoes, what are the socks you are wearing
How does it compare to the Mizuno rebellion pro? Thank you.
It’s a 40mm stack, I thought? Is it lower? Anyone know?
It’s 36mm on the info I have from Hoka
36 / 31 as per Hoka
Is it going to come in a wide fit?
I just can’t get into the foam in any HOKA. Just doesn’t feel as good as the technology with Nike, Asics, Saucony, etc
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