Brexit explained: What is the problem with the Irish border?
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- Northern Ireland is the smallest nation in the UK, but the border with the Republic of Ireland could become one of the biggest parts of the Brexit negotiations. So why is the Irish border so important?
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Ireland wasn’t always part of “Britain “
It was and is a totally separate Island , a totally separate people, a totally separate culture .
It was colonized. by England and they sent people from England and the Scottish lowlands to take over the fertile lands that the Native Irish had been forcibly removed from .
These people that came over to Ireland kept theirselves separate , which was what the Westminster government wanted and they believed they were superior to the Irish.
Ireland has never accepted Westminster rule in Ireland and every generation has rebelled against the colonizers.
Eventually , about 100 years ago ,
The British government realized they couldn’t ever impose their unwanted ways and rule in Ireland and agreed to vacate , but not before partitioning the Island and giving their planters offspring an artificial majority in the north eastern part of Ireland .
This was and is the root cause of the conflict in Ireland ,
Once again , Westminster hasn’t been able to do what it wants to do with Brexit because of its involvement in Irish affairs ..
Perhaps there is such a thing as Karma .
Ireland Scotland and Wales have same DNA and similar Cultures.
@Protestant
We don’t worship a human woman .
Isn’t ye guys that “worship “ the human woman that you call the “ Queen “ of England.
Remember she goes to the bathroom every day just like all others .
Also , you seem to be throwing insults at Catholics ( which I’m not) but it wouldn’t have been too long ago that all of your ancestors were Catholics .
Some of your ancestors started to protest about certain issues in the Catholic Church that they weren’t happy with and later those “protesters” become known as
Protest- ants ( Protestants)
It’s good to study real History., it broadens the mind a lot .
@Protestant
So the difference of the protesters ( Protestants) ( all of who were formerly descendants of Catholics) with these Protestant men head bowed and Protestant women genuflecting in front of a human woman ( Queenie Liz )
That is something to be admired .? ( not’)
Incorrect.
@ Which part is incorrect?
oh my god this ignorance of the video is astounding. the violence broke out late 60's as a result of the human rights of catholics to vote and work and be protected from protestant violence not being satisfied by the British government.
Finally someone said it
True, very true. It was thr only way Unionists maintained their majority.
Yeh from that statement he needs to start from scratch.. But it’s in the past and I don’t know really but what about you guys in the comments. Do you not think that England would prefer to just give it back?? And will there be madness on the news every week with the unionists losing the plot over them leaving the UK?? Not looking for an argument by the way.. haha
@@tyronefox3528 unionists would lose their minds and that’s not understatement, currently there are loyalist paramilitaries threatening staff at the sea border that is now there because of Brexit. It also isn’t allowed to go that way because of the good Friday agreement means that the majority of Northern Ireland has to vote for a united Ireland which I think is pretty fair. The catholic’s started civil rights protests in the 60s and were ignored by government and I’m pretty sure protesters were killed by police and that kicked off the violence in the troubles which is treated like a both sides did bad things let’s not speak of it but it still confuses me that that is the response to a legitimate government doing things of the same scale as literal terrorists.
I have a solution. Give Ireland back to the Irish ☘️
I wholeheartedly agree
Crazy idea!
@@1969Mizori Why do you think it's a crazy idea ?
Never mind the MAJORITY that wants to remain part of the UK eh?
I presume you mean Northern Ireland? What do you think the people of NI would say to that?
It's not a Irish border, it's a British border in ireland
Veganism Kills it is British u glass of chicken blood
Wait to judge BREXIT ....after the Irish problem is faced. There maybe those who will regret the doing without some thinking before .Boris has not proven his views
mr FreeMan it’s in Northern Ireland and Ireland two diffrent counties
@@caleb4790 northern Irelands days are numbered
@@circlethecube6411 say that in english
Uhm... Ireland was an independent country before being invaded by ‘Britain’, more than the 100 years ago you mentioned, you made it sound like they were not before regaining their independence...
and the Isle of Man is a dependency and not part of the uk... it’s a self governing country
Calm down, this is an over simplified video to explain it to people with 5 minute attention spans.
Not true. Ireland was not name of our country that's what Spanish n Mediterranean pirates called it so maybe these EU need returning to base. Heugonot refugees from Europe brought great skills
You need to go back a lot more than 100 years...
fauldsb, That would tend to screw up their dishonest narrative.
1199 would be a good start...
YEAH our day will come
Yep. All the way back to the plantations of ulster in the 1600s. Thats really where all of these problems started
fauldsb t
You forgot to mention the threat of violence from loyalists (loyal to the English crown) you only mentioned threat of violence from Irish Nationalists. Also no mention of the "Plantation of Ulster" Very biased.
They did
An yep its still a problem
An some how no deal brexit (according to mr idiot prime Minister) 🙄 is supposed to fix it.
Lol sure
But hey Ireland 🇮🇪 is getting all its land back at least
Yep they did at 2:00
@@hemsinghpanwar6470 ... They didn't he just talked about how the Brits partioned Ireland and how it's entirely the fault of Irish Militias that there's violence in the North, despite the fact that a majority of the IRA's targets were military groups, while a majority of the UDA and British Military targets were civialian.
Breakdown of those deaths:
Of those killed by British security forces:
186 (~51.2%) were civilians
146 (~40.2%) were members of republican paramilitaries
18 (~5.0%) were members of loyalist paramilitaries
13 (~3.6%) were fellow members of the British security forces
Of those killed by republican paramilitaries:
1080 (~52.5%) were members/former members of the British security forces
721 (~35.1%) were civilians
188 (~9.2%) were members of republican paramilitaries
57 (~2.8%) were members of loyalist paramilitaries
11 (~0.5%) were members of the Irish security forces
Of those killed by loyalist paramilitaries:
878 (~85.5%) were civilians
94 (~9.2%) were members of loyalist paramilitaries
41 (~4.0%) were members of republican paramilitaries
14 (~1.4%) were members of the British security forces
nearly choked with this propoganda. If thats how people are educated openly about Ireland, what happens behind closed doors.
Care to elaborate?
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British soldiers "clashed with republicans". Not to mention collaborating with loyalist paramilitaries and murdering unarmed civilians.
Yea but they conveniently leave that out one of the biggest atrocities of the troubles was the 1974 Dublin Monaghan bombings which were almost certainly Mi6 carried out but still 44 years later the British government still refuses to release the documents
They didn’t conveniently leave that out, it’s a video about the border so not sure what you were going to expect except a speedy summary of the last 100 years.
Gavin Hillick a
UVF and UDA are rising.
Very well said These people never search for the truth Are we going there again?
1:50 What this video failed to mention was that before Britain "ruled" Ireland, we ruled ourselves.
No, Ireland was divided into many kingdoms. The British united them as a whole.
Yeah, the concept of 'we' in terms of nationhood is often a colonial invention
@gamer uploads cheers to that mate
Go back to junior cert history man , and learn about home rule crisis.......
@@Craig-we7un no you wrong
Mother Nature already put a free flow border between UK and Ireland...here representing the EU..it tis called the Irish Sea
@Veganism Kills
1) "...and that is a fact"
Umm, no, it's not unless you can magically predict the future.
2) The Irish didn't take Ireland from the Scots because Scots emerged later (9th century) as a mix of Gaels (which already included the Irish) and Pictish people who ruled over Ireland and Pictland respectively... what you say is impossible and historically incorrect.
@Veganism Kills
1) no, its fucking not, you can't forsee the future and every idiot who ever studied history knows that everything's possible and that history is full of "impossible" things and events. I suggest you open up a dictionary and look up the word "fact", you obviously don't know the meaning
2) what do you mean with "we"? Are you northern IRISH with an identity crysis? A scotsman who has no clue about general history? An Englishman who is talking just because of one-sided national politics?
3) how can I not refute anything you said? Do you suffer from a lack of sleep? If the Scottish people came centuries after the irish, in what right mind could the irish steal ireland, the territory named after them which was also the cradle of their culture, from them?
Sound more like you're talking out of blind nationalism rather than logics or knowledge.
Because the English decided by referendum that NI should leave the EU against its will, then it might be equally fair that the Northern Irish should decide by referendum what kind of backstop they'd prefer: the entire UK part of "a" customs union or the border in the Irish Sea.
Not true..NI is part of uk
One brexit for all UK citizens
@@jojams2000N.Ireland and Scotland chose to remain. The people of London also chose to remain .
@joprocter4573 Why not let the ones who want to remain , remain .Cameron made a mistake
Not the Irish border it's the British border in Ireland ... our border is the beach .
No technically you are wrong. Northern Ireland is not part of Great Britain and therefor the border with Ireland is not of Britain, but of the UK. You could call it the Irish border of the UK or the Northern Irish border of Ireland or the UK border of the Republic of Ireland. It depends from which side you look at it. A border is not *in* a country.
@@czarzenana5125 You are wrong, the Irish constitution claims the right of the people of Ireland to ALL of the Island of Ireland - the border is one imposed by the british - which is why it is the British (possessive) boarder in Ireland.
@@czarzenana5125 It's a border in Ireland imposed by Brits: the British border in Ireland
You read that quip in the paper didn't you? Get your own material
@@patrickdoyle9304 does it make the statement less accurate?
I've seen so many videos and I am surprised that the UK still has no idea what is going on in Northern Ireland and why it's so important. Can't tell if it's ignorance or stupidity
It's ignorance, they barely learn about Ireland in school. In comparison people in Ireland learn lots about the UK and Europe.
It's scary that people in the UK exist that still think the entire island of Ireland is owned by the UK.... Ignorance beyond belief.
@@CyclingInKilkenny try changing northern irish sterling anywhere in the uk. The result are hilarious........
Matt McDyre These issues are very complex. If you don’t struggle to keep the details of just this issue in your head you are a much brighter person than me. This is why videos such as this one are so helpful. And to my amazement we have here a news organisation offering to make the news easier to understand. To do their job. Let’s be positive, encourage and make the most of this!
@@CyclingInKilkenny I don't know anyone in England who thinks the UK owns all of ireland. I know alot however who don't even know northern island is part of the uk
@Adolf Shitler no worries, I'll be put the kettle on for your expected arrival. We'll have loads of surprises to share with you over a cuppa
Nicely done! Straightforward and concise. Thanks for the download.
Let's face it, Ireland SHOULD be united.
Good things don't happen tho do they?
I'm from a Border town, and grew up with currencies, friends, events and politics split between both territories. I also grew up during The Troubles, with terrorism affecting people I knew, and endless experiences of nervous Squaddies swinging a gun in my face. I have other Border links, too, so it's fair to say I grasp the related issues very, very clearly.
As such, I'm sorry to say that the vast majority of British people - or should I say, English people - know nothing about the North, and care even less. I've long, long since stopped being surprised at the often shocking knowledge many such people have about the North, and the Border, which is just something that it seems the vast majority of British people associate with a problem 'over there' associated with the deeply unloved, unwanted part of the United Kingdom, rather than being a distinct problem for the body politic as a whole to overcome.
To this day, and this is where I Am shocked, the vast majority of Brexiteers either entirely ignore even acknowledging that the Border represents a significant, complex problem, or else they casually, blithely shrug it off as a trifling matter of no consequence and Why Haven't We Left The EU Yet?!
You'd almost despair at the almost proud ignorance on display, but that's just the way of it. Northern Ireland voted by a majority to stay in the EU, with the Northern Irish grasping the political, economic and societal harm that Brexit represents. But their will to remain has seen them required to sacrifice themselves, seemingly so that Nigel and pals can gad about, throwing shapes, free entirely of the consequence and impact of Brexit 'over there'.
No wonder it's been such a chaotic farce, to date, even ignoring the DUP's games as a minority propping up political corpse Mrs May, to enact a future that the majority in Northern Ireland democratically oppose.
It would be a farce if it wasn't such a tragedy...
Best comment.
Ver Coda
Northern Ireland voted for the United Kingdom as a whole to stay in the EU. The United Kingdom as whole voted to leave.
You are very quick to blame English people for not understanding the issue before the vote, but clearly the same can be said of people in Northern Ireland. How come the percentage of remain voters in NI went up after the outcome was known, and all the talk about backstops etc started up? Surely they should have been more attuned to the issues than English people, but they weren't, were they, or the percentage would not have increased. I was in NI before and after the vote, and not one person mentioned the border as a factor in their decision to remain. One person lived one side of the border and worked on the other and even he was not bothered.
Just some context for you: people in London couldn't give a hoot if Birmingham announced they were going to go independent of the rest of the UK so it should not surprise you that they are not overly upset about Northern Ireland - it really isn't personal.
Well said Ver Coda
Ver coda
Don't you think that perhaps what they can't quite grasp is, 'How can it possibly be true that there will be violence and terrorism in Northern Ireland if there is a customs border?' In fairness, it is not rational is it? But then again, as you know, nothing that happened in Northern Ireland was rational: people wanted basic civil rights available everywhere else in the UK, these were denied, and then, for reasons beyond understanding, it escalated into mindless violence that no one seemed able to stop. It achieved nothing except to leave 3,700 people dead, thousands injured, and a legacy of hatred, fear and suspicion between the two communities that still exists in some parts to this day. There was nothing normal about it that makes it easy to understand. People in England don't understand it because they don't go around killing each other with the sustained madness that existed in Northern Ireland during that time. Not understanding is not the same as not caring.
www.tate.org.uk/art/archive/items/tga-201020-5-4/atkinson-colour-photograph-of-a-billboard-illustrating-the-number-of-people-killed-during
@@jmcc8156 well the origins of the troubles started in Spring 1968 when a peaceful Irish civil rights March in the north took place aka the Irish Spring they wanted the abuse and discrimination they had suffered for decades to end and the Unionists refused then some people believed the only way to get equal treatment was to fight for it then In 1969 the troubles begun and I honestly believe had the troubles not happened the abuse and discrimination would still be happening it was only after the fighting started that the global world turned its attention to the North sending reporters there to find out what was happening they then learned of many story's of decades long abuse and discrimination inc Gerrymandering and massive failings by the British government in Westminster to provide equality for the Catholic minority and after 29 years 1998 was when the Troubles ended in the Good Friday Agreement and 20 years later we have had considerably stable peace of course the troubles was a horrible time but people need to remember the British government themselves on numerous occasions collaborated with loyalist militia's to kill innocent civilians and many to this day do not understand why the troubles happened even tho when you look into it its very clear to see and I know you won't like this but I 100% believe the only reason we have equal rights in the north was because we rose up
Stop calling it the Irish border.. Ireland did NOT put border there Britain did
Wrong
@Brendan Gavaghan Says right here on this map, irish border
@Brendan Gavaghan Sorry NI is UK. You can join if you like
@Brendan Gavaghan We give you money when your economy tanks
@Brendan Gavaghan No, stay as you are.
Northern Ireland is not London.
Northern Ireland is not Dublin.
There is a legal document stating this that no one seems to know about. If you're curious I believe -BELIEVE - it has something to do with the Good Friday Agreement.
It's the northern Irish fault they don't have an Assembly the past few years, not the british government!
Great video!
I'd just like to point something out, concerning your map, however: The Isle of Man 🇮🇲 is not now, nor has ever been, part of the European Union. 🇪🇺
How on *earth* do you survive??!!?!
@@mogznwaz he's just showing you that there is a place in the UK that functions perfectly well without a backstop or border checks... if you're smart it will also show you how evil Europe is.. use war as a pawn ehh? You'll see in the future when your vote and you mean nothing at all in any way whatsoever
@@badboimatt675 IOM is not and never has been part of Great Britain.
It is self governing and claims the oldest Parliament in the world, The Tynwald (979AD)
It is a British Protectorate, but makes, polices and prosecutes its own laws.
Its not in the EU but it doesn't have a land border so Brexit not an issue for their legislature.
@@badboimatt675 The only problem with your Farage, Brexiteer 'fact' is the inconvenient truth that the Isle of Man is NOT a part of the UK just as it is not a part of the EU either. You used the word smart in your comment, you most certainly are not smart. Fool. You don't even speak proper English.
@YoubouZeke The Isle of Man is a Crown dependency but is NOT a part of either England nor the UK and it has not been ruled by the Earl of Derby since 1594. It has its own parliament, the Tynwald, the oldest continuous Parliament in the world.
It is not the Irish Border. It is the British border in Ireland. The British put it there in 1922. Get the facts right!
Wrong
@@ItsDeffoScott
Then who made the border, if it was not the British?
Santa Clause?
Ah here we go again Republican lies changing history. Your leaders agreed to the irish Border when they divided Ireland when most of its British regs from Ireland where fighting Germany. You agreed to the border instead of fighting a full internal war which would have left 100,000 dead in this country. Pity you republicans dont like to tell the truth about our history.
@@ernestrogen4639 bullshit, they were threatened with war if they didn't agree. It was forced on them, you jingoistic madmen just understand the difference.
Now Michael Collins of the IRA who was negotiating the deal did not have a choice. In fact he was gunned down by the IRA for signing that treaty. It was either split the country and take most of it or continue to be occupied. He made the devil's bargain and I believe he made the right choice. Basically, though, I believe the IRA made the decision so they could live to fight another day.
"What's the problem with the Irish border?"
Britain. That's the problem with the border that YOU imposed. 100 years later, here you are again, imposing your will across our Island.
Northern Ireland is part of the UK and that is really it. :-)
@Brendan Gavaghan Doubt it. I bet a united Ireland still keeps the sweetheart deals, favoured trade, and bailout money in your head
Ah we bad British explain if we are the ones causing a problem why we have laws which allow any Irish National to live work and own property inside the UK. The EU and the Irish Republic have refused to say if they will do the same after we leave the EU. The UK government did not impose the Border your leaders agreed to it as the other option would have been a full war between Northern Ireland and the new Irish Republic with 100,00- peoples of this island dead. The border was created by you leaving the UK We in Northern Ireland did not go anywhere we chose to remain where we were part of the UK. How ever I would agree many parts of Northern Ireland should be handed over to the Irish Republic and a few smaller parts of the Irish Republic should be handed back. The British government should also follow the Irish Republics example and issue British Passports with in the Irish Republic.
Imposed? It was part of the Anglo Irish treaty of 1922, The Irish leaders signed it!!! Furthermore you do what makes you entitled to tell the Northern Irish they shouldn't be part of the UK? That kind of Irish nationalism is why the Ulster Scots, were so keen not to resist the Home Rule movement.
@@williamfrancis5367 Unionists have a majority in county Antrim and north county Down. Every other county in Ulster, let alone the rest of Ireland, vote Nationalist. So unionism has basically already lost but like a zombie, it will keep hanging on until the border poll in the next decade puts it out of its misery. Funny part is the most miserable people who suffer from unionism are unionists.
Isn't avoiding a hard border denial? Northern Ireland is either British or Irish, stop pretending it's both
That's a very obtuse remark.
Not denial. The Good Friday Agreement is an agreement between all the parties involved that there will be no hard border. It also sets out that citizens in Northern Ireland are free to choose to be either British or Irish or both. They are entitled to have Irish or British passports, or both. The generosity of brexiters to grant permission to NI to join the Ireland is simply a laughable demonstration of large scale indifference combined with ignorance.
this helped so much thanks!
Don't want a United Kingdom, I want a United Ireland.
But NI is British
@@ItsDeffoScott Britain is to the East :D
@@aarcas NI is British now, sorry
@@ItsDeffoScott Not for much longer. Thank you dopey Brexiteers :D
But your in the minority. Most peaple want to remain in the Uk. Its called democracy
It's a British border not an Irish border. It shouldn't be there in the first place.
S McGrath except it should. It was agreed by both sides. If it’s a problem NI should vote on it as well as the republic. That’s assuming the republic wants NI to be part of them
Tell that to the Northern Irish Protestants. Learn some history.
What do the northern Irish protestant not have say who governs them
Another ignorant simplified comment. Do they not teach history correctly in school these days? If people know nothing they should know not to comment. Anyone with sense knows that life is rarely that simple.
It should its British
Its not an Irish Border. Its an English border in Ireland. Fact! #channel4
Yeah so do the people of Northern Ireland want to be out of the UK?
@@saschacat yes, so 65% of people voted to remain in the EU. That doesnt take away from the fact its an english border in Ireland.
Idiot, the border was agreed with the republic. I'm sure a unified Ireland is innevitable one day. If they wanted to leave the UK that's entirely up to them, nothing is stopping them.
@@Fitlad75 Of course it is inevitable, as more real Irish go over to Northern Ireland the "people's vote" will of course go the unification way. Those English who went and stole the land of Ireland 100's of years ago will not be able to keep breeding at the same rate... Unification and war is indeed inevitable, it's when not if.
Will that vote be respected tho? Now that is the question
@@badboimatt675 War? Inevitable? Jeez, grow up, how many more people do you think need to die before these lines on a map are removed?
Great video! Mind telling me what software was used to make the video?
A video on why the public should not have been given a vote on something they know absolutely nothing about would be useful.
Lol the privilege of never been effected by the eu in a negative way. Remonaers are clueless
@@firstname4865 not sure if you mean Romanians, remainors or even Romans, if your going to make a point at least include basic grammar.
@@firstname4865 That's got nothing to do with the EU. If you're referring to Rotherham none of those men came from another EU country. You've just backed up his point, you aren't informed enough to vote on this.
@@firstname4865 Cite your sources that they're refugees? I bet they aren't and I bet you can't. And FYI you can't just walk into the UK. You keep showing yourself to be woefully stupid, nothing backed by logic, just made up tired Conservative talking points.
dont you think its a terrible reflection on the EU if the people whom it governs know nothing about it? if the public know nothing at all about, that to me is a very good reason not be part of it. unless the electorate being kept like sheep in the dark is desirable to you, and carry on voting for the things they are told to vote for because its 'for the best'. sounds like prelude to dictatorship to me.
Why doesn't ireland just become 1 country?
Watch the video at 4:15. You obviously weren't paying attention.
Eye Ball nothing scary about it. It’s an artificial border, created by Unionist extremists between 1912 and 1920. In doing so, the Unionists threatened war against Britain itself over a democratically-reached independence for Ireland = Government of Ireland Act (1914)
What’s scary is that you don’t know this. Essentially the DUP were born in terrorism and threats.
It’s only a matter of time before they are subsumed into a uniformed Ireland anyway. 🇮🇪
It's heading that way
Aye that's probably the way to go about it.
We want it too, but many people died still in our generation trying to get it back.
I've been watching the news for 2years and never understood anything🙄🤔, thanks for simplifying this 😆👍🏽
Sakiya Abdi be careful with these online videos claiming to explain political situations. They contain the most propaganda I have ever seen in online videos trying to sway your opinion in one direction or the other.
Don't believe anything the main stream media tells you it's all bullshit
@@BMF604 where is the propaganda in this video?
Thanks, the background music really helped me listen to the words.
Thank you!!! I never understood what the backstop was until now. Bit of a Catch-22 on a number of fronts for poor Teresa! Bless!
I'm still to find the 48kmh sign post..😁
LOL
Coz it's 50 :P
Someone got a calculator for his birthday
Interesting, but there are too many background sound effects which are distracting.
Quick and concise, thanks for sharing...
The north is already treated differently from the rest of the uk when it comes to abortion and gay marriage, tell the dup either they get with the uk on ALL laws or accept being treated differently
Niall Owens
Yes Niall, if only Northern Ireland had both of those things all their problems would be gone.
@@jmac1152 Not the point, they (the DUP) want to be an exception when it comes to religious things but not when it comes to others. Either they get all the exceptions or none of them; give the DUP a taste of their own medicine (ie blackmail)
@@niallowens6312
It was my point, regardless of whether or not it was yours.
@@jmac1152You made a flippant point that them having an exception from UK law on religious issues was irrelevant; it's not irrelevant because it's leverage to be used against them and the counter to any "no special deals" for Northern Ireland Brexiter bullshit. I wonder which the DUP would be more against; having to leave stop blocking laws because of their medieval religious beliefs or keeping the current trade arrangements which would actually benefit the North's economy substantially post-Brexit?
@@niallowens6312 is Of course your friendly enlightened Atheist who graciously shares his enlightened ideals with you and if you don't accept them freely well you better be made to accept it through any means or laws necessary, because FREEDOM!!!. Well done on taking the punch out of the Medieval word. You and other people like you obviously have no idea what the period was like, but OK just keep repeating it, if you say something long enough it'll become true
The reunification of Ireland is the only conclusion, Brits out.
@Jack The Film Fanatic are you brain injured or one of the poor unfortunates who were ESN schooled???
@Jack The Film Fanatic Ireland isnt a British isle
@Jack The Film Fanatic as I'm Irish by your reasoning you are not often right but your wrong again. Britain has no claim to southern Ireland yet an outdated British isles would suggest different and as n.Ireland and I mean n.Ireland the clue is in the name, are Irish as the Scottish are from Scotland and the welsh from Wales. If they claim to be British fare play to them, yet the Irish nationalist's know we are Irish regardless of what a hostile foreign government thinks. The non indigenous planter's are not sure what they are some claim to be northern Irish, some say they are Irish, and some say they are ulster Scott's/ Scotch Irish and some say they are British, only Britain claims Ireland is in the British isles this isn't the case in Ireland we want no part of your dead empire or dying UK. But inbred Brits are grasping at a greased pole, you can't hold what you never had, and you've never had the Irish people. Good luck with your Brexit, don't look to the Irish to support you, your on your own.
@Jack The Film Fanatic as the descendants of the planter's would never consider themselves Irish or indigenous your theory falls flat. They claim Scottish ancestry ignorantly choosing to turn a blind eye to their own Irish origins the Scotties but preferring to align with the traitorous low landers rewarded with stolen land in Ireland. Pretty soon it will all be sorted as the loyalist unionist's are loosing ground faster than first predicted, our paper's are awash with big protestant house's, farms and businesses up for sale as the smart well to do are getting out before the deluge of uneducated low IQ follow.
@Jack The Film Fanatic you are missing the point. British / unionists / protestants have never been the majority yet you claim irish terrority for a foreign monarchy / country. The native Irish who are the majority want to live in an independent 32 county Ireland but unionists cannot accept this basic democratic principle
Very useful indeed. Thank you.
I regard the Irish as my friends by default. I am for a united Ireland.
You'd have thought the Tory Eurosceptics would have had to have a well developed WORKABLE plan for this BEFORE an EURef was allowed to be presented to the people 😶
Failing that ... What was offered should have been REALISTIC!
You missed a couple of vital points of information...
1) the GFA/BA is a legally binding international agreement that was ONLY possible because both the UK & RoI were IN the EU.
2) part of the GFA/BA is that the people of Northern Ireland have the RIGHT to be:
a) British citizens
b) Irish citizens
c) British & Irish citizens
b & c are protected by the ECHR & ECJ
This is particularly important because the last time the Tories were in government lead by Thatcher they imprisoned people WITHOUT TRIAL!
Dead right.
Absolutely spot on
It's been made a problem due to the EU and Ireland wanting to stop or at least, delay our exit from the EU.
There is one minor error in this film. In the shading of the map, the Isle of Man is shown to be within the EU. Of course, it is not. So, for example, capital punishment is still permissible in the Isle of Man (e. g. hanging) if found guilty of an act which would is deemed a crime by a Manx court. Capital punishment is not allowed within a member state within in the EU.
The fact that the IOM allows far more flexible banking regulations also means that it is unlikely that the IOM would become an EU member state for the foreseeable future.
I just thought that I would point that out to you all.
Lucky IOM!!
@@monithorburn1301 Capital punishment on the IOM was formally abolished in 1993. Nobody had been executed since 1872.
"It is not the Irish boarder, it's the British boarder in Ireland, the Irish boarder is the beach"
-Dara O'Brien
And a boarder normally goes to boarding school
2:50 around my area at the border it says speed limit in miles per hour below the sign
The solution offered by the EU is the only sensible one. Contrary to what the Tories say, it does not mean putting a border in the sea between the UK and NI. For one thing NI is the UK. For a second, checking trade at the ports is the only logical and practical thing to do, since there are only a limited number of ports, and does not entail putting down a border whereas putting a physical border would be costly and inefficient. This should not have been a problem where it not the DUP. The DUP is a crazy bunch who fight to keep NI within the UK. But NI is the UK. All this is craziness graduating to the state level. The next logical thing would be to call for an election and hope that the new house can strike a reasonable deal. But wait, Corbyn could win and that would not be good. But would that be worse than the current situation, ie the government being taken hostage by the DUP ? Not so clear.
Wouldn't be the first time Unionists over here dictated terms to a UK government. They have a long track record of that dating back to 1912. The fear is that in all but one of those occasions, the UK side capitulated to them.
YOU ARE AS THICK AS 2 SHORT PLANKS,PETER GOD BLESS YOU
What about 3 yrs hostage before by beret squad
The border between Northern Irealnd and the Republic of Ireland is ~500 Km. Use the metric system to measure distances.
Why?
@Allen Williams
Because everyone in the world except the USA use it! Yes- even the UK officially.
You are seriously mistaken in the information you are broadcasting. The Good Friday/Belfast Agreement did not get rid of Customs checks. The necessity for Intra Community Customs procedures was abolished by the enactment of the Single European Act in 1993. This was five years before the Good Friday/Belfast Agreement. Between 1993 and 1998, the only restrictions on movement in Northern Ireland were imposed by the British Army. You may be able to correct this in any further article you plan to publish.
Thank you for this enlightening information.
It's unsolvable, Britain is lost control. When I first heard of Brexit, my very first assumption was Scotland was going to hold another referendum for independence and second: Ireland was going to be a huge problem. I never thought that brexit would win because of these.
Little historical inaccuracy: Ireland split before the Republic of Ireland was independent because during the war, the parliament in Westminster passed the Irish home rule bill which split Ireland into two, Southern Ireland and Northern Ireland, which would both be part of the uk and had their own parliaments. One in Belfast and one in Dublin.
Eh, no - back to school for you.
Crisp and clear info,kudos..
good info thanks
Nothern Ireland should belong to Ireland, not Britstan!
There is a treaty known as the GFA and because of that there will be no border. You missed the fundamental points.
The treaty only works because both nations are within the EU, the moment the UK leave the GFA becomes worthless.
@@danny148mb Horseshit.
So Switzerland and former yugo is part of the Mediterranean now?
thank you very much i didn't understand the whole thing for my homework until i watched your video
Hello from the US. Thanks for the insight. Peace.
Funny at the end how no Scottish image of a citizen popped up??????
That was a very interesting video😯
Very useful thanks
Why can't we just ignore the DUP ? If Northern Ireland is the smallest country in the EU , they should have the smallest say . Lets give Ireland back to the Irish and be done with it .
In Northern Ireland and agree with you. Arlene's farm sits on one of the largest deposits of shale gas in the British Isles. Maybe thats something to do with it? Hold onto NI, deregulate it, cash in.
The Unionists can have duel citizenship ; sorted. Someone tell the PM . She's gonna be so relieved.
You weren't watching the video were you?
@@dighyfveirfuveifbuv4420 The unionists are already entitled to dual citizenship. Everyone born north of the border is.
@@dighyfveirfuveifbuv4420 they already can. clap clap
0:29 Technically Dover borders Calais via the Channel Tunnel
We want more of these cartoons explaining Brexit!!! They are the best, I show them to my students to get a better glimpse of the problem. Could you do one with updates now that May has left and BoJo is in?
BoJo may not be in much longer.
I hadn't thought about this until I visited Ireland and NI last year, and then it hit me. Brexit could send Ireland/NI way back to a place it should have never needed to endure. I Live in Australia now, but am originally from England and grew up in the times of the bombings and terrorism. I'm from the generation that knows why British railway stations dont have rubbish bins on the platform. Given I don't live there anymore I'm fairly neutral on Brexit, but I guess I lean toward it a little. HOWEVER the Ireland/NI Issue is a really complicated and potentially devastating one. There should NEVER be a hard boarder ever again.
I thought you did such a good job explaining this. I grasped this really easily, and at the start of this video, all I knew was that there was such a thing called the Irish Backstop. Thanks a lot!
I mean they left out some key details around Irelands history
A border would risk "troubles" not just "because borders do" but because the good Friday agreement explicitly states that there will be "no new checks" at the border. So no physical border and no automated software checks either if you follow the agreement to the letter. And if you don't follow it to the letter, the risk is huge because there are still plenty of people that have kind of accepted the agreement but still resent it for one reason or another.
I went to belfast years ago and was very struck by how odd the place was
Interesting program. Be good to have a similar one to explain alternative voting in elections. Please
Get a feeling we were DUPed?
We will build a great wall on our southern border. And we're going to make Ireland pay for that wall.
Llf
Thank you.
What about eesu which allows family members of both ireland and UK what is the update to allow people to join there families plz advise hww
Gee..maybe if evryone stayed on their own island...or half island Miss UK, end of problem.
The problem is brexit. Not the border.
what is the background music ?
Hey yo one of the best things that I could think of would be labeling the products. that meet the standards. Also another good thing to do would be to make sure that they send the test results to each other thus keeping costs down and allows for transparency
Whether you like May or not, being the pm isn't easy right now
she's an alien in human skin
Why do you think Cameron left, and most of the Tory hotshots at the time refused the job?
I think you need to go back more than 100 years. Ireland became a union with Britain in the 1800, up till then it was under military occupation. The invasion of Ireland started with Henry VIII, followed by ethnic cleansing under Elizebeth and final conquest by act of union in 1800. The majority of Irish people have never accepted English presence in Ireland, hence the troubles and the unnatural border.
can someone please explain to me the problem with checking goods in the British borders? I don't understand
Can someone explain the pros and cons of a second referendum? The picture is entirely different now from three years ago and people know and understand much more now, so a second referendum would, in my mind, be perfectly consistent with democratic principles. In Québec we had a second soverneignty referendum in the space of 15 years but much less had changed in those 15 years than the past 3 in the Brexit question.
Are there any constitutional impediments to hold one now?
Are there polls on what people think of having one and what they would vote?
Why not returning Northern Ireland to Ireland?? Problem solved. Greetings from France
the demographs are changing back in a way that it will happen soon
@anny791 Yep, except Kosovo is Serbia. But I agree Northern Ireland is Ireland.
@Jonathan NI.Loyalist Its always been Irish. You fuckers are just squatters who we havent been able to get rid of........................yet.
I wish it was that simple...
+Dark Shinigami long live Kosovo
Gerry Adams killed my goldfish.
He might have cooked it. Tiocaidh ar Dinnear
Rick Cleek Was it a hate crime against an Orange fish ?
Does anyone know what the percentage vote was in N.ireland for Brexit?
All I know is that NI and Scotland voted to remain in the EU
Ahhh yes, now I know what they're talking about! Thanks for clarifying the issue Channel 4!
No mention of the fact the UK already signed up to the backstop and are just now back peddling?
Or how the onus is on the British to maintain the soft border as guaranteed in the GFA?
Or how NI voted against brexit?
Or how the DUP certainly do not represent all unionists?
What, facts? Who needs facts when we can sit down and have tea and a biscuit and feel superior to all non-British?
Arlene Foster going on about "the people of Northern Ireland" as though they overwhelmingly support Brexit and the DUP's approach to Brexit when they overwhelmingly voted Remain, she's talking through a hole in her head.
It's people like her and the ERG who culdn't care less about peace in Northern Ireland that have put the Good Criday Agreement at risk as long as they get the most extreme of hard Brexits they want.
The problem lies with UK entirely
Thanks.
Just keep doing what you’re doing. It’s superbly worked out.
give Ireland back to the Irish
That would be so easy if the people of northern Ireland didn't want to remain British, but they do..... You can't handover an area to another country without the permission of the people living there.
@e james they will
MrProzacmilkshake, what you are really saying is give NI to the EU, don´t you think the Protestants in NI are human ? Don´t Protestants have any say in their country´s future ? It´s the EU that is stirring up trouble as part of THEIR empire building, Eire is already in the hands of a foreigner who bows low to Brussels.
If you´ve got nothing good to say - don´t say anything.
U.K. should absorb Irland, then adopt the China/Hong Kong model...One U.K., two systems.
Ireland is already Irish. The Northern Irish are still Irish!!!
Ireland was never a part if Britain, all of Ireland was ruled by England. 100 years ago all of Ireland could have been independent, if they had not listened to the protestants in the north, Ireland would have been today United and without these problems that came when then island was split.
@Veganism Kills the Scots was an old Irish tribe during the time of Irish kings such as Uí Néill known as Imperatar Scottarum (emperor of the Scotts)that later had invaded the Picts, and later left a foot print that Scotland is named after. SO SCOTLAND IS IRISH
Excellent explanation.
It seems to me Vechain might be a solution for this problem with their traceability system.
The "Fences and Checkpoints" were a response to the troubles, not the cause as the video implies at 1:09
That's not what he says...he says that people don't want the borders back.
The Berlin Wall also was a response to certain troubles, but that does not mean people in Berlin would want their wall back, any time soon...
Fences?? response to the troubles??? what are you talking about? your ignorance is off the scale...have you ever been here...no thought not...LOL
Fact check: Ireland was part of the United Kingdom NOT part of Britain (duh). In fact it was the (forced) union with Ireland that engendered the term 'UK'.
In Italy we usually refer to the UK as simply England.
@@arx3516 That is what is worrying to the Scots, Welsh and residents in the North of Ireland. We lose our individual identities.
Great video
Why don't they make the movement of goods and trades at the ports on the water. There's more room for control.
That's what the backstop is, the Irish sea border, and the video clearly says Unionists don't like it and the DUP would veto it.
I hope a United ireland is underway
Brexit: *happens*
The I.R.A: it’s rewind time.
When talking about modern Ireland, one thing that needs to be mentioned was how a Protestant Irish Parliament successfully gained independence for Ireland between 1782 and 1800, during which time Catholics got most of their rights back, with most Irish people of different faiths uniting under the ideologies of either constitutionalism or Republicanism, with both in favour of varying degrees of Irish sovereignty/autonomy and increased personal rights.
This independence ended when a failed Republican Revolution in 1798 led British prime minister William Pitt to intimidate and bribe the Irish Parliament into merging the Kingdom Ireland into the UK after an initial Union vote failed. Ireland’s Parliament was forced to merge with The British one (though the courts and civil service of Ireland remained separate, but nominally subject to Westminster from now on).
People on both sides seem to have completely forgotten this chapter in Irish history, because Protestants and Catholics fighting together for an independent Irish Kingdom doesn’t fit anyone’s narrative, and yet it had a major impact on the island. Unionism, Republicanism and Constitutionalism all originate from the original Irish volunteers that used the opportunity of the American Revolution distracting Britain to revolt in 1782. This heralded the independence and has shaped all aspects of Irish politics ever since…
Possible Channel 4 can make a youtube video about what possible could happen to Gibraltar in a Brexit future. I wonder if I still will be able to walk from Gibraltar to Spain or is Spain allowed to just close the boarder ?
If there is a Hard Brexit, Spain can close the border, of course. You probably would need a Visa to travel (walk) to Spain,if no agreement is reached.