These guys are Living History and their work touched, literally, so many of us in this life and still does! What a great and unique Niche you've found with these awesome interviews!! Hats Off!! Nice work!
For some reason, I am impressed with these designers ability to articulate exactly how the processes worked. They are intelligent, very detailed and well spoken- all of them. Thank them and you for exposing us to these gems 💎
@@andoletube Not exactly. "For some reason," I didn't expect them to be all of what I described. It was a baseless pre-judgement, but I figured as car car guys, they may lack some of those attributes. Was just a fleeting, ignorant thought. But I was certainly wrong. Thanks for helping me work through this issue. I owe you one.
@@giggiddy Hey man, I didn't mean to make you feel hassled. I totally agree with your reasons. These guys are very intelligent and well-spoken, and the details they recall are amazing. I'm loving hearing from all the old designers. They made history, and Adam is bringing their stories to us before it's too late.
I daily drive a 1994 Eldorado. Bought it several years ago with 24,000 miles on it. I simply love the car. It drives great and looks even better. It’s approaching 50,000 miles. The head gasket hasn’t blown yet…
That's very nice. My mother drives a 1994 Seville and I drive a 1993 Allante. Just simple maintenance and you'll reach over 100k and way beyond with no problem.
@@starxlr7863 I’m curious what coolant you run in your mom’s Seville. Do you happen to know? I’ve read in forums to not use the GM spec coolant. Also, have you ever had climate control problems in the Seville? Suddenly I have no heat. It seems like an electrical problem. I haven’t seriously dived into the shop manual just yet. But I must do so soon if I don’t want to freeze 🥶 this winter!
@@starxlr7863 The Allante got a bad rap in the car magazines. Someone I know who has one simply loves the car. I’ll admit I was pretty smitten with the Allante when it first came out, but I eventually gravitated more toward the Eldorado. Many years ago I rented a convertible in Florida to drive to Key West. I had the top down for maybe 15 minutes and then I said “The hell with this. Give me my air conditioning!”
@@CH67guy1 Yes, the coolant that we're using for both the 94 Seville and my 93 Allante is the classic green antifreeze. I change it out every 3-4 years. There are too many different opinions out there, so I just follow what the manual states to do. We've never had any other issues develop even after all these years later. It was the early 2000s when my mom bought her Seville. I had my Allante for 5 years now. For the climate control, I can almost guarantee that the issue your experiencing is with the HVAC programmer. It's a small motor inside the programmer that is probably stuck or stopped working to change the blend door to adjust the temperature. That is super easy to change out and replace just behind the glovebox. I found that out one year with my Allante, it was during the winter months and noticed that no heat was coming out even after letting the car warm up plenty.
@@starxlr7863 Wow! Such valuable answers to my questions! Thank you! Can I ask one more question, because you seem VERY knowledgeable in regards to our old Cadillacs? I have another climate control issue. I’m 99% sure this issue is completely unrelated to the “no heat” issue we just discussed. I push the “auto” button and set temperature to 70 degrees on a hot day. I hear the air conditioner clutch engage but the blower motor only comes on when it feels like it. I open the hood and verify the A/C compressor is working properly. I see frost on the aluminum A/C line. It’s cold! 🥶 I drive around and usually at about 45 minutes into my drive the blower motor suddenly comes on. Some days the blower motor comes on normally after I start the car. Other times it comes on after I’ve made a few short trips. Drive a couple miles, park, turn engine off. 10 minutes later I drive a short distance and park and turn off the engine. Then the next time I start the engine the blower motor comes on normally. The only thing I’ve confirmed thus far is the electrical connector plug to the blower motor is in good shape and the connections are clean, wires appear undamaged, etc. Any thoughts? I thank you in advance. Daily driving a 30 year old car can be challenging! Sometime I’ll tell you how many radios I had to go through to finally get one that works!
I find these interviews so fascinating. I'm sure these various retired designers and engineers enjoy the opportunity to participate. Looking forward to many, many more
These cars were beautiful on the interior as well as the exterior. Bold and stylish and classy all at the same time. I think the Seville stands the rest of time. I want to buy one of these one day.
Thanks for introducing us to Mr. Fisher, Adam. What a talented designer! These interiors were a true benchmark in the industry when they came out. They were beautiful, intuitive and soothing to ride and drive in. I remember BMW executives were bowled over with the interior of the Seville STS when it debuted in 1992. Believe we've regressed with modern car interiors which are anything but intuitive and jam packed with flashy screens and controls that really don't provide anything one can't find on the cell phone we are carrying anyway. Modern IP's tend to take our eyes AWAY from the drive. That's never a good thing.
These were lovely cars to drive or ride in when new. When I was in high school my folks had a '92 4.9L digital-dash Seville that I took my drivers license test in, followed by a '93 Northstar STS which was a beautiful purple color and eventually became my sister's college car when my folks got an STS from the next generation to replace the '93.
Bless you for preserving these stories and history! This kind of stuff is FACSINATING for us car guys! We love learning about and debating these kinds of things! Thank you so much!
I feel so lucky to get to hear from these living legends. Marv made an excellent guest. This gen Eldorado and Seville were honestly super handsome vehicles and remained modern looking even a decade after their introduction. A big part of that was a great interior design that really was revolutionary for Cadillac in the early 90s. It's nuts to think that these were on the same new car lot as the final year brougham, a design dating back to 77! I'd love to find a 4.9 Eldorado or Seville, or even a 4.9 Deville. Of course the 350 powered fleetwood would also be amazing.
After reading for decades, so many magazines and books, about these people behind the scenes, designers and engineers who created and developed these cars, it is so wonderful to see them in your great interviews. Absolutely wonderful and so incredibly interesting. Thank you so much fort the great work you are doing.
This interior was an absolute standout. Truly standard of the world at the time. Thanks so much, Mr. Fisher, for returning American luxury to relevance. Your work will never be forgotten.
I really appreciate these videos. Hearing from the designers is illuminating. Thank you to the designers for their contribution to our pride and our experience as Americans. Thank you for making these videos happen. Now I wish Caddy would return to the names we love, Seville, Fleetwood, Coupe DeVille so many great names.
What a designer and a gentleman. That dashboard blew the competition completely out of the water imo and I myself was blown away. Excellent that you can get these interviews and bring it to us. Why is it that we can only give one thumbs up? I have two.
I was almost floored viewing the "new" Cadillac basic interiors back in the 90s. Fast Forward a decade later in my 2002 Cadillac DTS.....my sister said "I love this interior, it's so clean and simple". So I just changed my mind about this interior because......they need to bring back BLUE!
When I saw the new ‘92 Eldorado/Seville at the Chicago Auto Show…the styling was impressive, but when I saw the interiors of them I said to myself… ‘Damn…’ It was LEGIT feeling like a baseball caught in a fielder’s mitt…HOME RUN Cadillac was BACK on that day..!!
Like many GM products of the late 80s early 90s era I see the Seville/Eldorado as chuck Jordans redemption to the bland and ugly Irv Rybicki late 70s early 80s reign that proves that Chuck should've been in control from the get go instead. Another prime case of a grudge affecting good management (Bill Mitchell) decision making just like Lee iacocca picking Bob Eaton over bob Lutz to succeed him at Chrysler
I just discharged from the Air Force in 1992 and was driving home from Nebraska to New Hampshire. I saw a car carrier truck full of what I thought were huge Honda accords. I slowed down to get a better look and was blown away that they were Cadillacs. I thought it was the best looking 4 door car that year. My brother in law had one a few years later and the dual exhaust on that v8 sounded…awesome!! He traded it on a nice straight six 98 E class and they only gave him $9k for the Seville. I was pissed he didn’t give me a chance to buy it for $9k.
I drove a 1995 sls as a test drive for a customer repair in 2017 and that was the first time i truly understood why people bought them. Such a handsome car inside and out, and such a nice drivetrain when it all works right. Im a big mercedes guy but that mid to late 90s era of caddy was truly a high watermark until the CTS and the rear wheel drive STS. I enjoy these interviews with the designers at gm so much, keep it up!
Thanks for a very informative interview. I found the ‘92 Eldorado and Seville to be some of the most attractive cars of their era. Even though they developed a notorious reputation with the ‘93 and-up models with the Northstar, these were great driving cars with much improved ergonomics. I have driven and enjoyed several of these, including a ‘94 and ‘99 ETC, a 2001 SLS and a 2003 STS.
The Northstar is a good system...perhaps overdesigned, but given proper maintenance (which virtually prevented initial overheating and consequent head bolt issues) pulls 200K miles relatively easily. I've owned two ('95, '04) with 120K usage and the only powertrain issues were coil packs, fuel pressure regulator, camshaft position sensor and shift solenoids- each part under 100 bucks.
Your interview abilities are on par with Johnny Carson. You have prepared for the interview and know how to draw out facts/stories from those individuals.
I couldn't agree more! Adam has a love for the automobile and the evolution over the years. His knowledge and love for the hobby pours out in his interviews. Not boring, but informing and giving one a better sense of the work and back and forth you have to go to get a design to work and function.
These spectacular cars saved Cadillac. 30 years on and the Seville still looks fresh - and with the Northstar a year later it had a drivetrain to match.
That interior design set the template for Cadillac all the way up to the 2010's. Think about how much the world changed between the late 80's and 2010's. That design remained classy throughout that whole time.
I remember when this series debuted and it was immediately apparent that there was a jump in quality especially in the interior but the entire car was larger and more performance oriented. For the first time in years I wanted an Eldorado but I wasn’t in the market for a car. My brother’s late father in-law called me, as he often did when buying a new car to ask what I thought of the new STS and I recommended it. He loved the car. My nephew would in later years inherit the car. It really was a nice car. One of GM’s best of the era.
Thanks always for documenting automotive history and doing it in. an entertaining means. Was proud I knew Zebrano wood! Almost fell over laughing when Marv noted its superiority over "knotty pine."
I owned a 98 Eldorado when I was 22, and from a styling perspective it is still the pinnacle I judge all cars against. It's just a shame that the previous owners didn't maintain it and it blew the infamous head gasket. One thing I wish you had mentioned was the early models with the column shifter, which I find to be a fascinatingly antiquated and incongruous option when taking in the sportier essence of the Eldorado and Seville as a whole.
With this fantastic interview with Marv Fisher, Adam makes available to us the mysteries of designers' and engineers' magic. When we ask why we love our cars, it stems from the intiuitive appreciation of all the thought and experience that goes into their deisgn and manufacture. Great video!
I definitely want to hear the Fiero interior design story, I love riding in mine. Such classic 80s style and the rotated tach is one of the coolest little touches.
Personally I would rather have velour than leather. More comfortable. Doesn't last as long. But still better in my opinion. Also I absolutely love the Fiero. Beautiful car inside and out
I love hearing about the the give and take between engineering, design and accounting to produce a consumer product. I don't think I'm joking when I suggest interviewing the finance guys in the future. There's gotta be a fascinating story there, too.
Thank you once again Adam. It is amazing you are connecting with these designers and they are joining you to share so much. I like the 1992-1997 Cadillac Seville and Eldorado. I like the instrumentation panel that offered the digital gauges. They were offered. They were changed from the buck, but they still looked great. That car was indeed a homerun in so many ways. There are a lot of parts that went over to the 1994-1999 Deville on the interior. They eventually offered steering wheel controls on those cars with the 4 spoke steering wheel. Thank you to your guest Marv. It is appreciate you do these interviews.
Another great interview. Thank you, Adam! I'm with you -- these cars are beautiful, inside and out, and were a most welcome (and necessary!) evolution for Cadillac. I think the STS is one of Cadillac's best desgned cars, ever.
I have to agree the '98-'04 Seville was a beautiful automobile design and the brochures feature some of the sleekest Caddy pics ever. I'm in the market for a black on black '02-'03 STS. Black shadow dream. :)
Seating position and accessibility of controls is the most important factor in driving comfort. If you can get in the perfect position, see and reach everything, you will be able to drive for hours
My first new car was a 99 eldo ETC. diamond white with dove interior. To this day the nicest car I’ve ever owned. Even better than the 2012 DTS I ordered in the same color combo.
My mom had a ‘94 Eldorado ETC emerald green with dark tan interior. I feel to this day that was one of the nicest Caddy’s they had. The following generations and into the CTS era things got just plain cheap.
I grew up in early 60s building models and going out to see new all the new cars that came out. So, I really enjoy the interviews with these designers and engineers. It is great to hear all the reasoning behind the decision-making that went on to build these great cars.
Thanks to Marv for his work through the years. As a Fiero owner, I remember being smitten by its interior since I layer eyes on it as a kid. Still fresh and modern after 40 years. I always thru the mid to late 80s thought pontiac had excellent interior designs. The downside was that it was obvious they were trying to do nice interiors on the cheap. Material quality could have been better, and I think that's where we started to lose out to honda and Toyota. Not design but execution
Enjoying the design conversations. The Seville was a good looking car back in the day. I was less keen on the Eldorado as I didn’t like the C pillar. A bit more “speed” in the C pillar would have looked better imo.
Beautiful interior. More luxury European/Japanese taste than traditional American interiors. Very harmonic design. Well done. Having said that, I love the chaotic boxy lavish traditional interiors too, becuase of their cheap seductiveness.
I always thought they cut a few corners with this interior, the door material always felt spongy and the lack of door courtesy lights always bugged me, but it was really nice and still a huge leap forward from the 86 cars.
I LOVED this interior design. Both beautiful and functional, high quality but also warm and inviting, soothing, relaxing, easy to use. Absolutely perfect. The exterior designs were also a distinct improvement over the previous generation. My one concern was no bench seat option, even if there was no center seat, I just prefer the openness compared to the "in a slot" feeling of a prominent console. And the design of this panel could have easily offered both options, as the Bonneville's and Deville's dashes also could have a console "plugged on" or not, depending on customer preference. (*Edit - It looks like at 9:00 that a bench seat WAS part of the design... I do not remember the bench seat option, or maybe very few picked it?) Other than that, I think this panel is FAR superior to more recent designs, that are convoluted , gimmicky, and frankly hard on the eyes with all of the slashes and incongruent angles and hard to use controls. This design though is near perfection, with only changes to upgraded wood, metals, materials and accommodations for a screen and digital guages possibly needed in subsequent evolutions, but the essential design was GREAT! Should have become a Caddy design cue, like Benz and BMW interiors used to be. You could be blindfolded and put in either of those cars and immediately identify the brand by their interiors. Great job Mr. Fisher! And I definitely remember "Zebrano wood" being a big deal in advertising and pamphlets! It was a Cadillac exclusive, another thing that should have been retained and made a "Cadillac Thing" to give some coherence and legacy to create recognizability and loyalty from customers over time.
They didn't mention it here, but a bench seat and column shifter were optional early in production but I don't think it lasted beyond 1994 because it wasn't popular. If you browse Craigslist or Marketplace you can occasionally spot one.
@@nfullenwider I think it's a perfect compromise between sporty and modern while retaining luxury! I thought it one point they said that they had decided against the bench seat but it was unclear so I appreciate the clarification!
@@Jack_Stafford Funny enough, I just found this video. I was partially wrong, there wasn't a bench seat but there was a column shifter. th-cam.com/video/YjcDubHnf9g/w-d-xo.html
@@nfullenwider Wow! This is even better! You get the best of both worlds without the full console forcing you into a box around your legs and still a little bit of storage! I wish this was still an option, bench seats are super nice also but this is a great in between move! Sweet! I seem to remember some of the smaller cars like the Buick Skylark offering the same thing, not really a bench seat but deleting a full console and just having a storage space between the seats and keeping the shifter. And of course the Taurus with the trick switchblade console/armrest that folded "kind of" into a bench seat or could fold down and forward if you needed a partial console at other times. You get plenty of wiggle room, which is one of the initial selling points of front-wheel drive in the first place, and still a little bit of storage in the middle and cup holders or whatever, I do like this solution a lot!
I completely agree! If they would have simply continued improving and refining this very design and platform through the years, they would still be the standard of the world. I think it's a shame what Cadillac has become. No matter how good the products may or may not be, they're just not Cadillacs!
My Dad loved his ‘94 Eldo Touring Coupe. The interior was quite impressive. It was not better than the previous cars (I liked them too) but at the time it looked ritzy and modern. They still hold up. Great interview.
Sadly after getting my license in 1980 and watching the Chevy 305 cam shaft issues, The Cadillac V864 and then the Northstar head bolt issues it soured me on ever buying a GM product. My grandfather bought a 83 Monte Carlo that literally fell apart. Sad products from a company that was once the envy of much of the world.
This interior was a huge leap forward into the modern era. It was a clean, beautiful design. I did, however, think the non-touring versions of this interior were let down by the lack of wood trim on the center console. Considering how far that piece of wood went towards warming up that area and making the interior look expensive, it was unfortunate that GM left it out. Same issue with the doors on the non-touring Sevilles -- they only got some of the wood that the STS got. My only other criticism is that, while the interior looked very Lexus-like, many of the buttons and switches did not have the premium feel of some competitors.
The buttons and switches, although they might have cosmetic differences within the GM divisions, essentially came out of the “corporate” stock which were very cheap and fragile. I think one of the reasons manufacturers like BMW and Mercedes never have that problem is because they don’t have to share parts with “economy” divisions.
I agree with your subscribers; capturing the history of how GM design evolved is fascinating and timely - we're not getting any younger. In the 1992 Seville and Eldorado video with Marvin Fisher, you comment that Cadillac seats lacked sporting adjustment prior to the 1992 generation. As an owner of a 1991 Cadillac ETC, I wanted to point out that the seats have both lumbar and side bolster power controls and quite aggressive from a sporting perspective.
Final-generation Eldorado was another winner! Easily one of GM's best exterior designs of the decade, but that makes it easy to forget about some of the neat stuff that they had to figure out on the inside. For some reason, the Eldorado's inside door finish always really stuck out at me as clean and impressive. Their sleek, wide, pillarless, shape definitely helped.
Marv is very modest, but he had a huge amount of talent. His work was ahead of a lot of his contemporaries. His early 90s interiors would pass for late 90s/early 2000s interiors.
I loved the exterior and interior design of the 92 Seville. I felt Cadillac finally produced a modern cockpit. However, the HVAC controls being placed in an awkward location always bugged me. Also the Eldorado's C-pillar design looked a bit wonky and clumsy to me. But overall, (aside from the Northstar issues) I think Cadillac did a good job on those cars.
What I liked about John Manoogian is that you can feel that he has a love of cars and design in his veins. It's not just another job to him. Anyway, this was still a fairly good interview.
I bought a 2002 Eldorado ETC with 64,000 miles from Copart in Oregon for $225. Yes, it will require the Northstar Performance rebuild, but I would rather spend that money than drive a lesser car.
Great interview Adam! You could tell he was very impressed with your knowledge of the design of the era. I drove a 93 Cadillac STS for a number of years and found it to be a great sporty, yet sophisticated automobile. I can certainly see why you kept your Blue STS.
I miss my velour seats big time. If I could find a new luxury car today with velour seats I'd buy it instantly. Instead we are stuck with leather. I also agree the digital gages are way cooler and way more high tech than the 60s era analog gages. The bmw loving car magazines of the day were constantly on their anti digital pro analog gages, and unfortunately gm management listened to them instead of looking to the future.
This was when Cadillac was creating a HIGHER Standard, which became their slogan throughout the 1990s. The Seville and Eldo's 1990s design language would be influenced with the later Fleetwoods and DeVilles.
I had a 1992 eldorado in highschool. Mine had the square steering wheel. It was green with a tan fabric top. 4.9l v8. Nice car pretty quick to for how heavy it was. The car used to lock me out and not let me start it. Then it gave me a 3 min count down to restart it. Also the lock always froze. I have no clue why. I bought it from a guy that drove it to the casino in Detroit and back. Good memories in that car.
I owned a 1998 Eldorado ETC. It developed the "Northstar problem" even before I finished paying for it. Never another Northstar. Otherwise, it was a great car. It needed more back seat room though.
96 (first year of shitty dexcool turned acidic and started the head problems) also gm using cheaper aluminum that year for engine blocks)..97. ( start of “shortening, the head bolts) 98 99 also same short bolts…96-99 are the stay away years(we know now)..2000 they re-lengthened the bolts (didn’t do nothing new) it took till 2nd half of 2004 model year build to get the coarser headbolts…so you want a 2004.5-2011 only or 93-95.
Both the 1992 Seville and Eldorado were beautiful, until you have to change out the steering rack. Thanks to Marvin and Adam for their time in making this video, Is Marvin Fisher any relation to the name Body by Fisher ??? These interview type videos are such a great source of automotive history and very educational. Thanks for posting.
@@someone7773 A few of the problems with a steering rack that usually come with age are: Steering fluid leaks, Unresponsive steering "free play," Clunking noise when turning or the steering wheel not returning or returning slowly. Always talk with a licensed mechanic when buying a older car just to be safe. Most problems just come with age and mileage.
@@jetsons101 just brought a 1995 seville sts a month ago. It’s leaking steering wheel fluid I hope it’s not the rack tho. Went by a mechanic today and they ordered the pieces I’m praying it’s not the rack
These designers interviews are fantastically informative. This interior was quite attractive.
I agree. Big improvement in quality. Unfortunately, those Northstar engines were problematic to say the least.
One of my favorite Cadillac interiors. In blue, it was just 100% perfection.
One of Cadillac's best looking interiors ever I think!
These guys are Living History and their work touched, literally, so many of us in this life and still does! What a great and unique Niche you've found with these awesome interviews!! Hats Off!! Nice work!
That blue interior with the sweeping wood grain is absolutely gorgeous !
For some reason, I am impressed with these designers ability to articulate exactly how the processes worked. They are intelligent, very detailed and well spoken- all of them. Thank them and you for exposing us to these gems 💎
So not actually "for some reason" - you actually gave your reasons.
@@andoletube Not exactly. "For some reason," I didn't expect them to be all of what I described. It was a baseless pre-judgement, but I figured as car car guys, they may lack some of those attributes. Was just a fleeting, ignorant thought. But I was certainly wrong. Thanks for helping me work through this issue. I owe you one.
@@giggiddy Hey man, I didn't mean to make you feel hassled. I totally agree with your reasons. These guys are very intelligent and well-spoken, and the details they recall are amazing. I'm loving hearing from all the old designers. They made history, and Adam is bringing their stories to us before it's too late.
@@andoletube No worries at all my friend. I couldn't agree with you more. Adam's content is some of the best I've seen. Cheers!
Fascinating how your documenting history with these interviews. This will be very valuable information years in the future.
Mercedes used Zebrano wood on their interiors for years - My 91 W126 has it, and I agree with Marvin, the long flowing lines look great!
Audi as well
The cover photo for this video is what got me. Love these interviews
I daily drive a 1994 Eldorado. Bought it several years ago with 24,000 miles on it. I simply love the car. It drives great and looks even better. It’s approaching 50,000 miles. The head gasket hasn’t blown yet…
That's very nice. My mother drives a 1994 Seville and I drive a 1993 Allante. Just simple maintenance and you'll reach over 100k and way beyond with no problem.
@@starxlr7863 I’m curious what coolant you run in your mom’s Seville. Do you happen to know? I’ve read in forums to not use the GM spec coolant.
Also, have you ever had climate control problems in the Seville? Suddenly I have no heat. It seems like an electrical problem. I haven’t seriously dived into the shop manual just yet. But I must do so soon if I don’t want to freeze 🥶 this winter!
@@starxlr7863 The Allante got a bad rap in the car magazines. Someone I know who has one simply loves the car. I’ll admit I was pretty smitten with the Allante when it first came out, but I eventually gravitated more toward the Eldorado. Many years ago I rented a convertible in Florida to drive to Key West. I had the top down for maybe 15 minutes and then I said “The hell with this. Give me my air conditioning!”
@@CH67guy1 Yes, the coolant that we're using for both the 94 Seville and my 93 Allante is the classic green antifreeze. I change it out every 3-4 years. There are too many different opinions out there, so I just follow what the manual states to do. We've never had any other issues develop even after all these years later. It was the early 2000s when my mom bought her Seville. I had my Allante for 5 years now.
For the climate control, I can almost guarantee that the issue your experiencing is with the HVAC programmer. It's a small motor inside the programmer that is probably stuck or stopped working to change the blend door to adjust the temperature. That is super easy to change out and replace just behind the glovebox.
I found that out one year with my Allante, it was during the winter months and noticed that no heat was coming out even after letting the car warm up plenty.
@@starxlr7863 Wow! Such valuable answers to my questions! Thank you!
Can I ask one more question, because you seem VERY knowledgeable in regards to our old Cadillacs?
I have another climate control issue. I’m 99% sure this issue is completely unrelated to the “no heat” issue we just discussed.
I push the “auto” button and set temperature to 70 degrees on a hot day.
I hear the air conditioner clutch engage but the blower motor only comes on when it feels like it.
I open the hood and verify the A/C compressor is working properly. I see frost on the aluminum A/C line. It’s cold! 🥶
I drive around and usually at about 45 minutes into my drive the blower motor suddenly comes on.
Some days the blower motor comes on normally after I start the car.
Other times it comes on after I’ve made a few short trips. Drive a couple miles, park, turn engine off. 10 minutes later I drive a short distance and park and turn off the engine. Then the next time I start the engine the blower motor comes on normally.
The only thing I’ve confirmed thus far is the electrical connector plug to the blower motor is in good shape and the connections are clean, wires appear undamaged, etc.
Any thoughts? I thank you in advance.
Daily driving a 30 year old car can be challenging!
Sometime I’ll tell you how many radios I had to go through to finally get one that works!
It’s fantastic to hear behind the scene people of all these vehicles. Keep grabbing these designers Adam we love hearing what they have to say.
I've had a 1995 Eldorado. This was one of the cars I would buy again.
I find these interviews so fascinating. I'm sure these various retired designers and engineers enjoy the opportunity to participate. Looking forward to many, many more
Thank you for exceeding 20 minutes on this one. Your quality, effort and consistency puts you at the top of my list. And many others agree 👍
These cars were beautiful on the interior as well as the exterior. Bold and stylish and classy all at the same time. I think the Seville stands the rest of time. I want to buy one of these one day.
Thanks for introducing us to Mr. Fisher, Adam. What a talented designer! These interiors were a true benchmark in the industry when they came out. They were beautiful, intuitive and soothing to ride and drive in. I remember BMW executives were bowled over with the interior of the Seville STS when it debuted in 1992. Believe we've regressed with modern car interiors which are anything but intuitive and jam packed with flashy screens and controls that really don't provide anything one can't find on the cell phone we are carrying anyway. Modern IP's tend to take our eyes AWAY from the drive. That's never a good thing.
These were lovely cars to drive or ride in when new. When I was in high school my folks had a '92 4.9L digital-dash Seville that I took my drivers license test in, followed by a '93 Northstar STS which was a beautiful purple color and eventually became my sister's college car when my folks got an STS from the next generation to replace the '93.
Bless you for preserving these stories and history!
This kind of stuff is FACSINATING for us car guys! We love learning about and debating these kinds of things!
Thank you so much!
I feel so lucky to get to hear from these living legends. Marv made an excellent guest.
This gen Eldorado and Seville were honestly super handsome vehicles and remained modern looking even a decade after their introduction. A big part of that was a great interior design that really was revolutionary for Cadillac in the early 90s. It's nuts to think that these were on the same new car lot as the final year brougham, a design dating back to 77! I'd love to find a 4.9 Eldorado or Seville, or even a 4.9 Deville. Of course the 350 powered fleetwood would also be amazing.
After reading for decades, so many magazines and books, about these people behind the scenes, designers and engineers who created and developed these cars, it is so wonderful to see them in your great interviews. Absolutely wonderful and so incredibly interesting. Thank you so much fort the great work you are doing.
This interior was an absolute standout. Truly standard of the world at the time. Thanks so much, Mr. Fisher, for returning American luxury to relevance. Your work will never be forgotten.
I really appreciate these videos. Hearing from the designers is illuminating. Thank you to the designers for their contribution to our pride and our experience as Americans. Thank you for making these videos happen.
Now I wish Caddy would return to the names we love, Seville, Fleetwood, Coupe DeVille so many great names.
What a designer and a gentleman. That dashboard blew the competition completely out of the water imo and I myself was blown away. Excellent that you can get these interviews and bring it to us. Why is it that we can only give one thumbs up? I have two.
Ha! Thx.
I was almost floored viewing the "new" Cadillac basic interiors back in the 90s. Fast Forward a decade later in my 2002 Cadillac DTS.....my sister said "I love this interior, it's so clean and simple".
So I just changed my mind about this interior because......they need to bring back BLUE!
When I saw the new ‘92 Eldorado/Seville at the Chicago Auto Show…the styling was impressive, but when I saw the interiors of them I said to myself…
‘Damn…’
It was LEGIT feeling like a baseball caught in a fielder’s mitt…HOME RUN
Cadillac was BACK on that day..!!
Like many GM products of the late 80s early 90s era I see the Seville/Eldorado as chuck Jordans redemption to the bland and ugly Irv Rybicki late 70s early 80s reign that proves that Chuck should've been in control from the get go instead. Another prime case of a grudge affecting good management (Bill Mitchell) decision making just like Lee iacocca picking Bob Eaton over bob Lutz to succeed him at Chrysler
These Eldos and Sevilles are timeless beauties!!
I just discharged from the Air Force in 1992 and was driving home from Nebraska to New Hampshire. I saw a car carrier truck full of what I thought were huge Honda accords. I slowed down to get a better look and was blown away that they were Cadillacs. I thought it was the best looking 4 door car that year.
My brother in law had one a few years later and the dual exhaust on that v8 sounded…awesome!!
He traded it on a nice straight six 98 E class and they only gave him $9k for the Seville. I was pissed he didn’t give me a chance to buy it for $9k.
Marvin has some fascinating insights on the interior design of Cadillac & even Pontiac!!! 👍👍🙂
I drove a 1995 sls as a test drive for a customer repair in 2017 and that was the first time i truly understood why people bought them. Such a handsome car inside and out, and such a nice drivetrain when it all works right. Im a big mercedes guy but that mid to late 90s era of caddy was truly a high watermark until the CTS and the rear wheel drive STS. I enjoy these interviews with the designers at gm so much, keep it up!
Thanks for a very informative interview. I found the ‘92 Eldorado and Seville to be some of the most attractive cars of their era. Even though they developed a notorious reputation with the ‘93 and-up models with the Northstar, these were great driving cars with much improved ergonomics. I have driven and enjoyed several of these, including a ‘94 and ‘99 ETC, a 2001 SLS and a 2003 STS.
The Northstar is a good system...perhaps overdesigned, but given proper maintenance (which virtually prevented initial overheating and consequent head bolt issues) pulls 200K miles relatively easily. I've owned two ('95, '04) with 120K usage and the only powertrain issues were coil packs, fuel pressure regulator, camshaft position sensor and shift solenoids- each part under 100 bucks.
This was another premium presentation. Thank you,
Thank you for sharing with us Marvin. Greatly appreciate it.
Your interview abilities are on par with Johnny Carson. You have prepared for the interview and know how to draw out facts/stories from those individuals.
Well, that’s a compliment!
I couldn't agree more! Adam has a love for the automobile and the evolution over the years. His knowledge and love for the hobby pours out in his interviews. Not boring, but informing and giving one a better sense of the work and back and forth you have to go to get a design to work and function.
Agree 100% because he lets people just “go” and talk w/o interrupting them.
These spectacular cars saved Cadillac. 30 years on and the Seville still looks fresh - and with the Northstar a year later it had a drivetrain to match.
That interior design set the template for Cadillac all the way up to the 2010's. Think about how much the world changed between the late 80's and 2010's. That design remained classy throughout that whole time.
I absolutely love the 1992-1995 Cadillac tear drop dash/interior
I remember when this series debuted and it was immediately apparent that there was a jump in quality especially in the interior but the entire car was larger and more performance oriented. For the first time in years I wanted an Eldorado but I wasn’t in the market for a car. My brother’s late father in-law called me, as he often did when buying a new car to ask what I thought of the new STS and I recommended it. He loved the car. My nephew would in later years inherit the car. It really was a nice car. One of GM’s best of the era.
Thanks always for documenting automotive history and doing it in. an entertaining means.
Was proud I knew Zebrano wood!
Almost fell over laughing when Marv noted its superiority over "knotty pine."
I owned a 98 Eldorado when I was 22, and from a styling perspective it is still the pinnacle I judge all cars against. It's just a shame that the previous owners didn't maintain it and it blew the infamous head gasket. One thing I wish you had mentioned was the early models with the column shifter, which I find to be a fascinatingly antiquated and incongruous option when taking in the sportier essence of the Eldorado and Seville as a whole.
What's even more interesting is that the column shift retuned after the 86-91cars not having one at all.
With this fantastic interview with Marv Fisher, Adam makes available to us the mysteries of designers' and engineers' magic. When we ask why we love our cars, it stems from the intiuitive appreciation of all the thought and experience that goes into their deisgn and manufacture. Great video!
Yep, generally I'm not a Cadillac-Design fan, but these cars really look stunning all around and not much dated - at least the coupe.
I definitely want to hear the Fiero interior design story, I love riding in mine. Such classic 80s style and the rotated tach is one of the coolest little touches.
Very smart on not wanting controls on a center console. You can drive a car for years everyday and you will still look down to actuate a switch.
Personally I would rather have velour than leather. More comfortable. Doesn't last as long. But still better in my opinion.
Also I absolutely love the Fiero. Beautiful car inside and out
Thank you again for featuring these amazing designers and their incredible stories. Nobody else does.👏
I love hearing about the the give and take between engineering, design and accounting to produce a consumer product. I don't think I'm joking when I suggest interviewing the finance guys in the future. There's gotta be a fascinating story there, too.
Thank you for your enormous efforts preserving automotive history.
Thank you so much!
I attended a new car show in Atlanta in 2000 and liked the interior in the older Eldorado more than the interior in the just redesigned Deville.
Thank you once again Adam. It is amazing you are connecting with these designers and they are joining you to share so much. I like the 1992-1997 Cadillac Seville and Eldorado. I like the instrumentation panel that offered the digital gauges. They were offered. They were changed from the buck, but they still looked great. That car was indeed a homerun in so many ways. There are a lot of parts that went over to the 1994-1999 Deville on the interior. They eventually offered steering wheel controls on those cars with the 4 spoke steering wheel. Thank you to your guest Marv. It is appreciate you do these interviews.
They made so many big changes in a decade up to and including these!
I bought a 88 DeVille in 97 and a 92 Seville STS in 99. I liked the 94 STS steering wheel design instead of the 92. I miss them both
Another great interview. Thank you, Adam! I'm with you -- these cars are beautiful, inside and out, and were a most welcome (and necessary!) evolution for Cadillac. I think the STS is one of Cadillac's best desgned cars, ever.
I have to agree the '98-'04 Seville was a beautiful automobile design and the brochures feature some of the sleekest Caddy pics ever. I'm in the market for a black on black '02-'03 STS. Black shadow dream. :)
Had an 85 Seville loved the interior. Now own a 93 Eldorado and must say the interior of the 93 still feels modern although it is 30 years old.
I have always loved the design of these cars, a timeless design that will always look great. Would love to own/drive on of these great cars.
Yet another great guest from the industry for a historical perspective. Thanks Mark.
I liked the Cadillac dash. Since then, I have discovered the 95-98 Riviera.
Seating position and accessibility of controls is the most important factor in driving comfort. If you can get in the perfect position, see and reach everything, you will be able to drive for hours
I love the ‘92 Eldorado!
My first new car was a 99 eldo ETC. diamond white with dove interior. To this day the nicest car I’ve ever owned. Even better than the 2012 DTS I ordered in the same color combo.
My mom had a ‘94 Eldorado ETC emerald green with dark tan interior. I feel to this day that was one of the nicest Caddy’s they had. The following generations and into the CTS era things got just plain cheap.
They also sold very well
I grew up in early 60s building models and going out to see new all the new cars that came out. So, I really enjoy the interviews with these designers and engineers. It is great to hear all the reasoning behind the decision-making that went on to build these great cars.
Thanks to Marv for his work through the years. As a Fiero owner, I remember being smitten by its interior since I layer eyes on it as a kid. Still fresh and modern after 40 years. I always thru the mid to late 80s thought pontiac had excellent interior designs. The downside was that it was obvious they were trying to do nice interiors on the cheap. Material quality could have been better, and I think that's where we started to lose out to honda and Toyota. Not design but execution
I agree with Marv that the Zebrano is much more elegant compared to the Burl with I believe has a certain cheese-ball look.
I see that the Eldorado interior influenced the interior of my 01 Buick Regal. I think that is one of the nicest interiors ever.
We don’t see this anywhere else on TH-cam. Thank you Adam!
Wonderful job Adam! Keep building these interviews, the car designers of this era are dying off as we speak!
I love these interviews. I would love to see some more designers. Can you get some engineers too?
Enjoying the design conversations. The Seville was a good looking car back in the day. I was less keen on the Eldorado as I didn’t like the C pillar. A bit more “speed” in the C pillar would have looked better imo.
Beautiful interior. More luxury European/Japanese taste than traditional American interiors. Very harmonic design. Well done. Having said that, I love the chaotic boxy lavish traditional interiors too, becuase of their cheap seductiveness.
My fav Caddy, particularly with the 1st year wheels which aren't shown here
I always thought they cut a few corners with this interior, the door material always felt spongy and the lack of door courtesy lights always bugged me, but it was really nice and still a huge leap forward from the 86 cars.
I LOVED this interior design. Both beautiful and functional, high quality but also warm and inviting, soothing, relaxing, easy to use.
Absolutely perfect.
The exterior designs were also a distinct improvement over the previous generation.
My one concern was no bench seat option, even if there was no center seat, I just prefer the openness compared to the "in a slot" feeling of a prominent console.
And the design of this panel could have easily offered both options, as the Bonneville's and Deville's dashes also could have a console "plugged on" or not, depending on customer preference.
(*Edit - It looks like at 9:00 that a bench seat WAS part of the design... I do not remember the bench seat option, or maybe very few picked it?)
Other than that, I think this panel is FAR superior to more recent designs, that are convoluted , gimmicky, and frankly hard on the eyes with all of the slashes and incongruent angles and hard to use controls.
This design though is near perfection, with only changes to upgraded wood, metals, materials and accommodations for a screen and digital guages possibly needed in subsequent evolutions, but the essential design was GREAT!
Should have become a Caddy design cue, like Benz and BMW interiors used to be. You could be blindfolded and put in either of those cars and immediately identify the brand by their interiors.
Great job Mr. Fisher!
And I definitely remember "Zebrano wood" being a big deal in advertising and pamphlets! It was a Cadillac exclusive, another thing that should have been retained and made a "Cadillac Thing" to give some coherence and legacy to create recognizability and loyalty from customers over time.
They didn't mention it here, but a bench seat and column shifter were optional early in production but I don't think it lasted beyond 1994 because it wasn't popular. If you browse Craigslist or Marketplace you can occasionally spot one.
@@nfullenwider I think it's a perfect compromise between sporty and modern while retaining luxury!
I thought it one point they said that they had decided against the bench seat but it was unclear so I appreciate the clarification!
@@Jack_Stafford Funny enough, I just found this video. I was partially wrong, there wasn't a bench seat but there was a column shifter.
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@@nfullenwider Wow! This is even better!
You get the best of both worlds without the full console forcing you into a box around your legs and still a little bit of storage!
I wish this was still an option, bench seats are super nice also but this is a great in between move!
Sweet!
I seem to remember some of the smaller cars like the Buick Skylark offering the same thing, not really a bench seat but deleting a full console and just having a storage space between the seats and keeping the shifter.
And of course the Taurus with the trick switchblade console/armrest that folded "kind of" into a bench seat or could fold down and forward if you needed a partial console at other times.
You get plenty of wiggle room, which is one of the initial selling points of front-wheel drive in the first place, and still a little bit of storage in the middle and cup holders or whatever, I do like this solution a lot!
I completely agree! If they would have simply continued improving and refining this very design and platform through the years, they would still be the standard of the world. I think it's a shame what Cadillac has become. No matter how good the products may or may not be, they're just not Cadillacs!
My dad bought a Seville in '93 and the whole family thought the world-class interior was designed by a genius. We were right! Thank you good sir.
My Dad loved his ‘94 Eldo Touring Coupe. The interior was quite impressive. It was not better than the previous cars (I liked them too) but at the time it looked ritzy and modern. They still hold up. Great interview.
Back to back designer interviews you’ll be at the top
Great interview, thanks to you both.
I recently saw a Seville of this vintage, and was struck by what a handsome design it is.
Adam, thank you, so much for having these people on your show! We "now" can see, what, and "WHY" some of these STUPID choices were made!
Hopefully you’re not referring to this beautiful interior ;)
@@RareClassicCars no, Not at all!
Sadly after getting my license in 1980 and watching the Chevy 305 cam shaft issues, The Cadillac V864 and then the Northstar head bolt issues it soured me on ever buying a GM product. My grandfather bought a 83 Monte Carlo that literally fell apart. Sad products from a company that was once the envy of much of the world.
I just bought a 1993 Eldorado Coupe with the 4.9 engine. Love it.
This interior was a huge leap forward into the modern era. It was a clean, beautiful design. I did, however, think the non-touring versions of this interior were let down by the lack of wood trim on the center console. Considering how far that piece of wood went towards warming up that area and making the interior look expensive, it was unfortunate that GM left it out. Same issue with the doors on the non-touring Sevilles -- they only got some of the wood that the STS got. My only other criticism is that, while the interior looked very Lexus-like, many of the buttons and switches did not have the premium feel of some competitors.
The buttons and switches, although they might have cosmetic differences within the GM divisions, essentially came out of the “corporate” stock which were very cheap and fragile. I think one of the reasons manufacturers like BMW and Mercedes never have that problem is because they don’t have to share parts with “economy” divisions.
I agree with your subscribers; capturing the history of how GM design evolved is fascinating and timely - we're not getting any younger. In the 1992 Seville and Eldorado video with Marvin Fisher, you comment that Cadillac seats lacked sporting adjustment prior to the 1992 generation. As an owner of a 1991 Cadillac ETC, I wanted to point out that the seats have both lumbar and side bolster power controls and quite aggressive from a sporting perspective.
Final-generation Eldorado was another winner! Easily one of GM's best exterior designs of the decade, but that makes it easy to forget about some of the neat stuff that they had to figure out on the inside. For some reason, the Eldorado's inside door finish always really stuck out at me as clean and impressive. Their sleek, wide, pillarless, shape definitely helped.
Thanks for the video. 👍✨
I remember that Seville dashboard being a really big deal.
Marv is very modest, but he had a huge amount of talent. His work was ahead of a lot of his contemporaries. His early 90s interiors would pass for late 90s/early 2000s interiors.
I loved the exterior and interior design of the 92 Seville. I felt Cadillac finally produced a modern cockpit. However, the HVAC controls being placed in an awkward location always bugged me. Also the Eldorado's C-pillar design looked a bit wonky and clumsy to me. But overall, (aside from the Northstar issues) I think Cadillac did a good job on those cars.
That sweeping dash was used by Holden at the same time for the 93' Holden statesman and Caprice . Interesting.
What I liked about John Manoogian is that you can feel that he has a love of cars and design in his veins. It's not just another job to him. Anyway, this was still a fairly good interview.
I bought a 2002 Eldorado ETC with 64,000 miles from Copart in Oregon for $225. Yes, it will require the Northstar Performance rebuild, but I would rather spend that money than drive a lesser car.
Worth it. Just had my Northstar studded on my 99 Eldo.
Great interview Adam! You could tell he was very impressed with your knowledge of the design of the era. I drove a 93 Cadillac STS for a number of years and found it to be a great sporty, yet sophisticated automobile. I can certainly see why you kept your Blue STS.
I miss my velour seats big time. If I could find a new luxury car today with velour seats I'd buy it instantly. Instead we are stuck with leather. I also agree the digital gages are way cooler and way more high tech than the 60s era analog gages.
The bmw loving car magazines of the day were constantly on their anti digital pro analog gages, and unfortunately gm management listened to them instead of looking to the future.
This was when Cadillac was creating a HIGHER Standard, which became their slogan throughout the 1990s. The Seville and Eldo's 1990s design language would be influenced with the later Fleetwoods and DeVilles.
These videos are amazing. I really respect your ability to make them. It's very impressive.
I had a 1992 eldorado in highschool. Mine had the square steering wheel. It was green with a tan fabric top. 4.9l v8. Nice car pretty quick to for how heavy it was. The car used to lock me out and not let me start it. Then it gave me a 3 min count down to restart it. Also the lock always froze. I have no clue why. I bought it from a guy that drove it to the casino in Detroit and back. Good memories in that car.
The pellet on the key was wearing down. A new ignition key may have solved that problem.
@@TeeroyHammermill Right, the VATS system; there were only 17 different codes. From about 1990 to 2000.
Dude your vids are "amazingly informative" 👍👍👍
I owned a 1998 Eldorado ETC. It developed the "Northstar problem" even before I finished paying for it. Never another Northstar. Otherwise, it was a great car. It needed more back seat room though.
96 (first year of shitty dexcool turned acidic and started the head problems) also gm using cheaper aluminum that year for engine blocks)..97. ( start of “shortening, the head bolts) 98 99 also same short bolts…96-99 are the stay away years(we know now)..2000 they re-lengthened the bolts (didn’t do nothing new) it took till 2nd half of 2004 model year build to get the coarser headbolts…so you want a 2004.5-2011 only or 93-95.
Thanks!
Excellent
Both the 1992 Seville and Eldorado were beautiful, until you have to change out the steering rack. Thanks to Marvin and Adam for their time in making this video, Is Marvin Fisher any relation to the name Body by Fisher ??? These interview type videos are such a great source of automotive history and very educational. Thanks for posting.
What causes the steering rack to be replaced? Anyway that this can be prevented or maintained?
@@someone7773 A few of the problems with a steering rack that usually come with age are: Steering fluid leaks, Unresponsive steering "free play," Clunking noise when turning or the steering wheel not returning or returning slowly. Always talk with a licensed mechanic when buying a older car just to be safe. Most problems just come with age and mileage.
@@jetsons101 just brought a 1995 seville sts a month ago. It’s leaking steering wheel fluid I hope it’s not the rack tho. Went by a mechanic today and they ordered the pieces I’m praying it’s not the rack
@@someone7773 A leak from the "Gater Boots" on the ends of the rack are somewhat of a EZ fix. But to remove the rack is a lot of work.
@@jetsons101 okay good whew