😂 😂 "99.99999"... You wish! We know the history bro. It is not anything hidden or mysterious. You can easily Google it and find details and sources to that effect. That being said; 1. He failed to mention why anyone would want to change the message during compilation instead of writing the original message. What did Uthman stand to gain? (We all know what the Roman's stood to gain by distorting the original message of Jesus... They persecuted him in the first place) 2. You people seem to ignore the fact that all his sources are prominent Islamic scholars(Bukhari, etc). If the compilation were sooo problematic, why didn't they leave Islam for Christianity or any other religion afterwards? It always amazes me when a Christian finds some common knowledge to preach to his listeners as "novel, mysterious, blah blah blah" 😂 3. Why would 99.99999% of the living scholars agree to burn what they if the message had been "distorted" or "lost" like this man claims? 4. As for the variations in recitation, the Qur'an was revealed in Arabic and the Bedouins at that time had 7 dialects. Hence the slight variations in pronunciations of some words (still same meaning by the way). FYI: The Qur'an is still recited in those dialects even till TODAY! (Guess he didn't know that). Let me know if you have other concerns regarding this common knowledge that he claims to be "novel" 😂 😂
lol i checked already it bb he said i dont know so i get that point. and the other side who said khadijah n her uncle were devout catholics hahaha oky if that is your opinion i am cool but you have to find more good luck
I wish people could see my life I'm a Christian and have been born and raised with every religion, have followed gods commandments as set by moses and have lived a very happy prosperous (not money though) life in total unity. Its these simple things that just need to be adhered to that keep love flowing and growing
The message of the ten commandments was sent to the people of Israel at the time. The rules do not apply today. How do you know the commandments are the real commandments sent?
Yes, Jesus is believed to return, and you might wonder who He will recognize as His followers. Consider the following: Muslims have beards and wear long thobes, similar to how Jesus dressed. Muslim circumcise jsut like Jesus did. Muslims pray with their heads on the ground, as Jesus did. Muslim women wear hijabs and cover themselves, much like Mary, Jesus' mother. These practices reflect a strong continuity with the traditions of Jesus and his time. Former Anti-Islam Politician Became Muslim! How He Accepted Islam! th-cam.com/video/iEo5e5g1IVI/w-d-xo.htmlsi=lzbOkquGNscSjO72 While Writing Anti-Islam Book He Became Muslim! th-cam.com/video/yXCMU72z0Ms/w-d-xo.htmlsi=nLfXT9_OFXKMZ7fz From publicly Preaching Against Islam to Becoming a Muslim th-cam.com/video/HVAaoz0pGds/w-d-xo.htmlsi=lhpyMvmRt_ecWTa5 Former US Presidential Advisor Converts to Islam after Being Hostile to Islam th-cam.com/video/DQ__a_DaT-A/w-d-xo.htmlsi=koZ4Ug8_IhnwuEzV Dr Jeffrey Lang who was born into a Roman Catholic family but by 18 he was an Atheist. His reaction when he read the Al-Quran and understand " The Purpose of Life ". th-cam.com/video/ifllgTA2pmY/w-d-xo.htmlsi=asXpT-vYYIAEqRM4 Samoan Christian Converts to Islam - And His Daughter Follows! He waited 10 yrs for anyone to debunked Islam online and none has done it. th-cam.com/video/Xu9T6yiUDI8/w-d-xo.htmlsi=zeh0No-UpoIJ45ie Pastor Converted his Entire Church to Islam th-cam.com/video/luH3S-8lb10/w-d-xo.htmlsi=bih3Z6wfP7resHGZ NON MUSLIM SCIENTISTS EMBRACED ISLAM AFTER DISCOVERING THE MIRACLES OF THE NOBLE QUR'AN th-cam.com/video/jQdf9ajJGZY/w-d-xo.htmlsi=lcd47-cZn0qSYLTK Rabbi Tell me about the Arab God? Ask the Rabbi Live with Rabbi Mintz th-cam.com/video/nm12SOsgGlU/w-d-xo.htmlsi=XQ3nLrA1sVDo-qzo Jewish Rabbi Admits Islam Is The Oldest Religion th-cam.com/video/GzoMJfJCR0I/w-d-xo.htmlsi=wtTegHEXw57mlib7 The Jewish Rabbi Who Converted to Islam - Abdullah ibn Salam ( RA ) th-cam.com/video/ba5KRU4D68I/w-d-xo.htmlsi=T6rq2sAE5zAajzAN
excactly brother,every human knee will bow but also every muslim knee will bow and they will not see the isa version of Jesus but Jesus of the Holy bible then they will see how betrayed and fooled they where and we all together going to shout that Jesus is Lord!from where ever religion people are...im praying for that day to come as i live but it doesnt matter cause we all dead or alive going to experience Jesus one day in full glory...
@حروف مبعثرة مبعثرة I'm so happy that as a Muslim my husband can hit me if I don't listen to him they way he wants me to listen to him. Ayah 4:34 the husband can strike the wife if she won't listen. I'm so happy my husband can marry children before they have a period (Quran 65:4-5). He can have sex with children. Allah is such a righteous god. He cares so much for the women and children. Oh yeah, milk comes from the blood of a cow. Mmm blood milk, so delicious 😋
I found this very educational, I like how nobody out of 9 thousand people who disliked this video not one can argue or even disprove his argument. Seems like a sign of ignorance. Thank you for this most informed lesson!
Im surprised that James is actually attacking these bibles because he is fine with different versions, this is amazing.
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If you have differen versions then every person will have personal opinions of which is true. Thats confusion. God is not God of confusion. White says that one verse missing is not a problem, but when Quran has different accents that were recited by Muhammad too in the first place, well that is a problem now.
@arabic language is not like english.. that james white dont know anything about arabic.. you need to learn from the expert.. we muslims just sad about how ignorant this james white be..he should ask and learn first before spreading lies to all of you..nothing in the quran is lost.. we have everything in it.. go and learn from the true historian and muslim scholar..
I majored in the Sciences and one must always consider all points otherwise the truth is hopeless and will never be known! I appreciate Dr. White's study of the history of the Koran!
You are speaking out of ignorance. I've never seen an atheist win a debate with a learned Muslim. Bring your best scholar and your best red herring claims about Islam and try to debunk them here. We want you to debunked Islam so we can leave Islam 🤣🤣🤣. th-cam.com/play/PL2L1KmXRf3M3x8_EIpjeaf8DLfagTHdG8.html&si=rFiKraeP0OP8QR2G Former Anti-Islam Politician Became Muslim! How He Accepted Islam! th-cam.com/video/iEo5e5g1IVI/w-d-xo.htmlsi=lzbOkquGNscSjO72 While Writing Anti-Islam Book He Became Muslim! th-cam.com/video/yXCMU72z0Ms/w-d-xo.htmlsi=nLfXT9_OFXKMZ7fz From publicly Preaching Against Islam to Becoming a Muslim th-cam.com/video/HVAaoz0pGds/w-d-xo.htmlsi=lhpyMvmRt_ecWTa5 Former US Presidential Advisor Converts to Islam after Being Hostile to Islam th-cam.com/video/DQ__a_DaT-A/w-d-xo.htmlsi=koZ4Ug8_IhnwuEzV Dr Jeffrey Lang who was born into a Roman Catholic family but by 18 he was an Atheist. His reaction when he read the Al-Quran and understand " The Purpose of Life ". th-cam.com/video/ifllgTA2pmY/w-d-xo.htmlsi=asXpT-vYYIAEqRM4 Samoan Christian Converts to Islam - And His Daughter Follows! He waited 10 yrs for anyone to debunked Islam online and none has done it. th-cam.com/video/Xu9T6yiUDI8/w-d-xo.htmlsi=zeh0No-UpoIJ45ie Pastor Converted his Entire Church to Islam th-cam.com/video/luH3S-8lb10/w-d-xo.htmlsi=bih3Z6wfP7resHGZ NON MUSLIM SCIENTISTS EMBRACED ISLAM AFTER DISCOVERING THE MIRACLES OF THE NOBLE QUR'AN th-cam.com/video/jQdf9ajJGZY/w-d-xo.htmlsi=lcd47-cZn0qSYLTK Rabbi Tell me about the Arab God? Ask the Rabbi Live with Rabbi Mintz th-cam.com/video/nm12SOsgGlU/w-d-xo.htmlsi=XQ3nLrA1sVDo-qzo Jewish Rabbi Admits Islam Is The Oldest Religion th-cam.com/video/GzoMJfJCR0I/w-d-xo.htmlsi=wtTegHEXw57mlib7 The Jewish Rabbi Who Converted to Islam - Abdullah ibn Salam ( RA ) th-cam.com/video/ba5KRU4D68I/w-d-xo.htmlsi=T6rq2sAE5zAajzAN
Hadrat Usman (RA) was a great scholar of the Holy Qur’an and was a “Hafiz”(i.e. the one who commits the whole Holy Book to memory). He was well versed in “Shan-i-Nuzul” i.e. the chronology of revelation of various verses and the chapters of the Holy Qur’an, and was considered an authority in this respect. He was one of the few Companions who excelled in deriving laws from the verses of the Holy Qur’an. He had a beautiful handwriting because of which the Holy Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) appointed him as one of the scribes of the “Wahy” (Quranic Revelations). His style of writing was well recognized among the Companions of The Prophet Muhammad PBUH. He was among ten blessed companion of Prophet PBUH. The argument by Mr White carries no weitage as he is portraying that Hadrat Usman was an emporer but he failed to deliver the fact that the man himself was an authority on Quran.
think about it like this bro, if you whisper a sentence in someone’s ear and then tell them to whisper it in someone else’s ear and have that cycle continue 50 times, it’s going to be a completely different sentence.
@@hydrachop4322 😂😂😂 you wrong bro.. quran is not something like that.. you can search on TH-cam and see with your own eyes how Muslims memorised the Quran.. we have both.. memorised and scripture.. your oldest bible size is about a credit card.. not even one sentence is complete I think.. you should laugh to yourself..
@@hydrachop4322 Here’s an example: everyone knows the alphabet goes like this ABCD. Now imagine someone comes along and starts saying the alphabet is ADCB, everyone will know he’s totally wrong. In short, this is how the Quranic oral tradition has been since the time of the prophet.
Haha Your comment is what holds no weight. You should actually refute the points he made which you didn't. He even points out that the Islamic world largely ignores these points, not even refuting them. That is EXACTLY the kind of thing you have just done.
like you said in the beginning there are people that memorize the whole Quran and once the curl was put together it was sent out to different cities it was right over and they all agreed that it was cracked and that has been brought forward to this thing thank you
True there is only one authentic origin created by Allah alone there is no other copy of the holy Quran and the only acceptable by Allah on the day of judgement his only religion Islam.There are so many sects in Islam, Christianity, Judaism and other religion who followed their own desires and fancies creating and selling for a small price and on the day of judgement Allah will seperate those who belong to theright and the left people. Those on the right are those on the right path closer to Allah who worship him alone and submissive to his commands and for those on the left are those who belong the hell fire who are heedless deviants ungrateful idolaters and defiant DISBELIEVERS who refuses and rejected 0:08 his verses.
not 1 person ever can quote a whole koran 56:36 virgin delusions, 78:33 voluptuous women delusions, 37:48 glances delusions, 38:52 glances delusions is written proof NO allah/god EVER, OBVIOUSLY mo made genocide "670 million massacred" baby killers is all 2 billion vilevil lowlife godless mohamadans
There were still many memorizers left after the battle of YAMAMA . Hafsah 'Quran was checked and rechecked against the original memorizers and A new copy was written with the dialectical marks . This was to ensure that NON ARAB Muslims who did not know the Arabic language don't read the Quran wrongly and pass down the wrong recitation and meaning to the following generations. Don't forget that all the 4 caliphs were huffaz(memorizers of the Quran) from the time of the Prophet Muhammad till their own death. Furthermore the Quran was being memorized since the time of the Prophet till this day.. We have about 11 Million Quranic memorizers today conservatively. We also have several verified authentic manuscripts that date back to the time of the Prophet.
Yea right, 11 million Muslims memorized an entire Quran. Not even one person, could memorized an entire Quran. You people claim the most atrocious & senseless things. This is why Satan wants the mind, so Satan can confuse & deceive. God wants our hearts to fill The Holy Spirit of God's Truth; so that we cannot be deceived. Jesus Is The Truth, The Way & The Life. Without The Holy Spirit dwelling in you; you cannot claim to be worshipping The Holy God of Heaven & Earth. ✝️🕊️🙏
That is what makes Islam itself a miracle.... I would advise you guys to go to any of the mosques during the month of Ramadan evening tarawih prayers and watch this miracle personally.... Are u afraid to go and see?? Go to any tahfiz school in any part of the world and see this miracle in practice by 9-year-olds....Maybe that will convince you
James white is being paid millions to distort. the truth of Islam, just like David Wood and other Islamophobes.... Just stop the money.. and see what he says..... Read Bart Erhman.... your own biblical scholars.... and what Karen Armstrong has to say on the Quran.... your own people.....
Hope you find what you are seeking for. I admire that you have listened to this and have that courage to look into the text to find what is true. Hope you read what the Bible say too. God bless you.
@@chike3539 sure, I have read it, not all and most of the time when I read a chapter , the story seems not complete and most of the time, words keep repeating like a filler.
@@godislove5799 Awesome. Well its really important to note that the Quran isnt a story book. God isn't trying to entertain us. Therefore you wont find any happily ever afters and these kind of things. Words do repeat many times - if you read surah Arrahman for example, you will see the purpose of reapeted words without me needing to explain it, its a really short surah, definitely check it out.
i have read in the bible it say The word was made flesh which is christ and that the word was inspired by God through men to write and there is a grave price if any add or take away ,and when reading the word its living! My God is sure and Loves ! John 3:16
The Quran has "Suwar" سور, not all came in order each in different time and location. So when the muslims realized that Quran was written on separate papers and many people who memorized it fully (memorized all papers) they gathered the papers and put them in order to form the known Quran book. The Quran doesn't have versions, it was only separated by time, the ones who memorize Quran know it all as if they have the full puzzle done.
@@Dunamis-_1. The Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) was indeed illiterate. He did not know how to read or write. This aspect is significant in Islamic tradition as it emphasizes that the Quran, which he received through divine revelation, was not a product of his own knowledge or literary skill but a miraculous message from Allah. This fact underscores the belief that the Quran is the word of God, given to a prophet who had no means to produce such a text on his own. What about the part of Qur'an eaten by tame sheep? You make a claim so please tell us the text that is eaten by the tame sheep. Surely your best scholar would know whats the missing text. Also Former Anti-Islam Politician Became Muslim! How He Accepted Islam! th-cam.com/video/iEo5e5g1IVI/w-d-xo.htmlsi=lzbOkquGNscSjO72 While Writing Anti-Islam Book He Became Muslim! th-cam.com/video/yXCMU72z0Ms/w-d-xo.htmlsi=nLfXT9_OFXKMZ7fz From publicly Preaching Against Islam to Becoming a Muslim th-cam.com/video/HVAaoz0pGds/w-d-xo.htmlsi=lhpyMvmRt_ecWTa5 Former US Presidential Advisor Converts to Islam after Being Hostile to Islam th-cam.com/video/DQ__a_DaT-A/w-d-xo.htmlsi=koZ4Ug8_IhnwuEzV Dr Jeffrey Lang who was born into a Roman Catholic family but by 18 he was an Atheist. His reaction when he read the Al-Quran and understand " The Purpose of Life ". th-cam.com/video/ifllgTA2pmY/w-d-xo.htmlsi=asXpT-vYYIAEqRM4 Samoan Christian Converts to Islam - And His Daughter Follows! He waited 10 yrs for anyone to debunked Islam online and none has done it. th-cam.com/video/Xu9T6yiUDI8/w-d-xo.htmlsi=zeh0No-UpoIJ45ie Pastor Converted his Entire Church to Islam th-cam.com/video/luH3S-8lb10/w-d-xo.htmlsi=bih3Z6wfP7resHGZ NON MUSLIM SCIENTISTS EMBRACED ISLAM AFTER DISCOVERING THE MIRACLES OF THE NOBLE QUR'AN th-cam.com/video/jQdf9ajJGZY/w-d-xo.htmlsi=lcd47-cZn0qSYLTK Rabbi Tell me about the Arab God? Ask the Rabbi Live with Rabbi Mintz th-cam.com/video/nm12SOsgGlU/w-d-xo.htmlsi=XQ3nLrA1sVDo-qzo Jewish Rabbi Admits Islam Is The Oldest Religion th-cam.com/video/GzoMJfJCR0I/w-d-xo.htmlsi=wtTegHEXw57mlib7 The Jewish Rabbi Who Converted to Islam - Abdullah ibn Salam ( RA ) th-cam.com/video/ba5KRU4D68I/w-d-xo.htmlsi=T6rq2sAE5zAajzAN
What is mind blowing, is this man went to great lengths to discredit Islam and the Quran? The question should be why is he discrediting the Quran. Does he feel threatened by the Quran, because any common man is not threatened by the Bible.
th-cam.com/video/hXh9mivqrb8/w-d-xo.html And all of Dr. White's presentation's based on Sahih al-Bukhari. Quoting Wikipedia, "Sunni Muslims view this as one of the two most trusted collections of hadith along with Sahih Muslim."
👍😀 *One of my favorite variances in the Quranic texts is when the oldest written version ever discovered was found to say "72 grapes", and not "72 virgins". Imagine dying a horrible painful death as an isis fighter, thinking you have 72 virgins waiting for you, when the oldest text actually says GRAPES. 😂 Bahaha* 😆
She Who Knows All : There is no versions in the Qur'an. The Qur'an is the same since it was revealed to the prophet Muhammad peace upon him. The Christians bible have over 2000 versions. Because it is not the WORD of God. No where in the entire Qur'an the 72 virgins or 72 grapes. Christianity is a ant Christ, Paganism cult founded by the Romans who had a Son of God cult. It is imitation of unclean spirits (DEVIL) belief. According to the bible itself. (MARK 3:11) " And whenever the unclean spirits (DEVILS) beheld him (Jesus), they fell down before him and cried out, "You are the Son of God".
She Who Knows All Answer me this contradictions: 1.Who incited David to count the fighting men of Israel? (a) God did (2 Samuel 24: 1) (b) Satan did (I Chronicles 2 1:1) 2.In that count how many fighting men were found in Israel? (a) Eight hundred thousand (2 Samuel 24:9) (b) One million, one hundred thousand (IChronicles 21:5) 3. How many fighting men were found in Judah? (a) Five hundred thousand (2 Samuel 24:9) (b) Four hundred and seventy thousand (I Chronicles 21:5) 4.God sent his prophet to threaten David with how many years of famine? (a) Seven (2 Samuel 24:13) (b) Three (I Chronicles 21:12) 5.How old was Ahaziah when he began to rule over Jerusalem? (a) Twenty-two (2 Kings 8:26) (b) Forty-two (2 Chronicles 22:2) 6.How old was Jehoiachin when he became king of Jerusalem? (a) Eighteen (2 Kings 24:8) (b) Eight (2 Chronicles 36:9)
The difficulty in reconciling the statement in 1 Chronicles 21:1, “Satan . . . moved David,” with that of 2 Samuel 24:1, “the Lord moved David,” is not problematic. All temptation is permitted by God, but not caused by God. When evil spirits tempt us, they do so by permission (Job 1:12, 2:6; Luke 22:31). Satan therefore provoked David to number the people, and God allowed him to do so. God allows those things which serve to advance His holy and perfect will. * learly, Israel had already experienced three years of famine before David numbered the people of Israel and Judah-for reasons unrelated to the situation in question. 2 Samuel 24:1-7 record the initiation of the census, but we find in verse 8 that “"when they had gone through all the land, they came to Jerusalem at the end of nine months and twenty days."” So according to the text, numbering the people was nearly a year-long process, and there is no clear indication that God had suspended the initial three-year famine prior to the events in chapter 24. Now if God had combined three additional years of famine (1 Chronicles 21:12) with the three years of initial famine, and a possible intervening year while the census was conducted, the resulting overall famine would have totaled about seven years (2 Samuel 24:13). * Young Jehoshaphat and young Athaliah of Israel engage in an illicit affair for political reasons during the reign of Asa. Jehoshaphat and Athaliah give birth to Ahaziah, perhaps out of wedlock. Jehoshaphat and his true wife, a woman of Judah, give birth to Jehoram. Jehoshaphat becomes king of Judah after Asa's death. By virtue of his relationship to Athaliah, Jehoshaphat king of Judah is given some jurisdiction over Israel and is considered also "king of Israel". Ahaziah, being Jehoshaphat's son, shares Jehoshaphat's limited jurisdiction over Israel and becomes co-regent of Israel with Ahab at age 22. Despite being co-regent of Israel by virtue of his father Jehoshaphat's authority, Ahaziah cannot succeed the throne of Israel at Ahab's death because Ahab has his own sons. Before Jehoshaphat died, he appointed his younger son Jehoram a pure prince of Judah to become king of Judah, bypassing Ahaziah's right to the throne. Jehoshaphat dies. Jehoram becomes king of Judah after Jehoshaphat's death. Jehoram takes Athaliah as his wife. Ahaziah legally becomes the son of Jehoram, despite being older than Jehoram. Ahaziah becomes king of Judah at age 42 after Jehoram's death. * Commentators on these verses explain that Jehoiachin was, in fact, crowned twice. Shortly after Jehoiachin’s father, Jehoiakim, began his reign, he (or the king of Egypt) crowned his eight-year-old son as heir to the throne, to ensure that Jehoiachin would become king after him. Jehoiakim himself had to wrest the throne (with the help of the King of Egypt) from his younger brother, Jehoahaz. As a result, Jehoiakim wanted to ensure that his firstborn would be firmly ensconced on the throne before his own death. When Jehoiachin was eighteen, Jehoiakim died and Jehoiachin in fact took the throne.
Ibn masud said, uthman said, nothing muhamad said ,this guys aguement is dead on arrival, he is basically agueing on different pronounciations but no ommssion of whole verses and charpters just like the bible,he basically more confused.
Nicole'sDance Nation The point was people outside your world are bi- or multilingual, so no point being an ignorant critic. As for Christianity, we Muslims respect Christians and always have done by law! By law, I mean the Sharia of Islam. This gentleman is mistaken on the Quran, the compilation of which was more sophisticated than he imagines. Please don't think I know nothing about Christianity. The Quran teaches about what Christians believe and I went to a Christian school.. And my background is Hindu. All the best.
Dear Brothers and Sisters, (Christian) I want to tell you all that it is that you were told by you bible about Muhammad (pbuh) as the final messenger. And it is written in your book about his name. In Song of Solomon 5:16 Hik.ko ma m.taq.qim we.kul.low ma.ha.mad.dim zeh do.w.di we.zeh re.‘i be.no.wt ye.ru.sha.lim ma.ha.mad.dim This dim is used for respect. If you still don't believe go search on google about the verses in Bible about Muhammad (pbuh). Surely there are many.
This task was undertaken, not lightly, and carried to its conclusion at a time of great personal distress, through which it comforted and sustained the writer in a manner for which he will always be grateful. He therefore acknowledges his gratitude to whatever power or Power inspired the man and the Prophet who first recited these scriptures. I pray that this interpretation, poor echo though it is of the glorious original, may instruct, please, and in some degree inspire those who read it. A. J. ARBERRY
I am not Muslim but my major is history of religion and I took 3rd year of Islam course. The professor told about the history if Koran and he mentioned Koran cannot be the words exact written from Prophet Muhammad but it is the collection of the texts over a century during Islamic empire. If we read the text we usually find the information of laws and codes in specific matters, not many philosophical wisdom. This text is collection of more political writings then spiritual experience writings.
Hello Mr. James you can easily get a briefly described answer of your query about the collection, burning and again writting of the holy Quran on TH-cam. Search for it.
Watched the whole video while in the restroom, waiting for the exact “ayat” of veriations, the only thing I heard this guy said this and that guy said that …..
@@DopexBoyFilms No, He has destroyed every so called "Muslim apologist" but I don't blame them. It's hard to defend a flawed religion written by a 5th century warlord lol and it was lost and they memorized by Randoms and then finally recorded. who knows what even happened
@@sheeshabedin1379 We also believe in one God, but God is not so easy to understand, comprehend, and fully know, because he is all almighty and OUT OF THIS WORLD. And I would say it's almost the same with Muhammed splitting the moon, while everything is calm and with us not dying. And it's not our fault that Allah couldn't preserve his words (Torah and Injil) "as he does with the Quran". He wanted them to be corrupted by people so that Judaism and Christianity can begin existing hundreds of years BEFORE ISLAM. That means mostly he only wanted you Arabs to be saved, by preserving his word when he gave the right holy book in ARABIC to you Arabs(Muhammed). So it's not our fault that we became Jews and Christians, it's Allah's fault that he couldn't preserve his words FROM THE BEGINNING. Maybe the answer is that this is Allah's divine work to deceive or let people be deceived by his corrupted words right?
@@sheeshabedin1379 you believe that a illiterate murderer who was choked by a demo gave you your holy book--We will stick with Jesus and alot of Muslims are coming to the truth of Jesus.
I beg to differ with this man on one issue. I had one of those Bibles which give you the original words litterally translated from the original text right under a modern text version of your choice. The original text, is some cases is so not understandable that you are very hard pressed to see how they translated it in the way it is written in the modern version. I don't know what these Bibles are called, but the only way for you to see what I mean is for you to get one for yourself and read at least most of the New Testament. But shortly after 11:55 he states that the Curan has been interpreted by a government and several times re-written and older versions destroyed so as to keep anyone from checking the authenticity of the newer versions. Then he goes on to say this has not happened with the Christian Bible. WRONG When the Christian Bible was first printed in English, it was done so by the Catholic church which was a government at that time.
Okay, so according to the logic put forth in this video, there are two options for the New Testament: 1) The same exact thing happened with New Testament when only 4 of the more than 40 known gospels were kept as part of the canonical New Testament - it only says that God did not aid the Christians in preserving and maintaining a unified text, but for Muslims, as He promised in the Qur'an, He kept His promise and guarded the Qur'an so that even if some people believe that there are other 'versions' or missing parts, there is no actual evidence to prove this, as there are no verses or surahs that can be found anywhere - it's like a ghost, a bunch of people claim it exists and tell stories about it, but when it comes to hard evidence, there is none. 2) If, as this gentleman says, it is matter of seeking truth/loving truth over being deceived, all of those other gospels (more than 40 that are not part of the New Testament) should be similarly read and compared to the 4 gospels in the New Testament and should be accepted as having truth in them. This would include the Gospel of Thomas, which says that Jesus went to India/the East after crucifixion, the Gospel of Judas, which says that Judas was actually the dearest disciple of Jesus and not accursed, and gospel of Barnabas which says that Jesus told his disciples not to worship him, that he was only a man, not God, and that they should accept Prophet Muhammad when he comes. Take your pick. Also, it is absurd to claim that '99.9999997%' of Muslims have never heard of this. I don't know what kind of Muslims he was referring to in the beginning who acted so surprised when he had told them about it in another instance, but they must have been living under a rock. The history of the compilation of the Qur'an is such a well known subject for Muslims, which should be no surprise seeing as it is clearly described in detail in Sahih Bukhari and other books of Hadith. The fact that he chose these 'variations' verses the apparent variant readings that are present to this day in the Hafs, Doori, Nafi, etc. mus-haf shows just how oblivious this gentleman is. Or maybe its because even those 'variant' readings are not 'variant' by any sense of the word, but merely describe authenticated and accepted forms of reading/pronunciation owing to differing dialects. The example he gives of chapter 3 verse 158 is also very weak, because it would not be grammatically or linguistically correct for the text to read 'laa ila-llahi tuhsharoon' - if the verse were really to say 'you will NOT be gathered unto Allah', it would have been 'ila-llahi LAA tuhsharoon', because the negating of a verb comes before the verb in Arabic, and this is easily discernible from the rest of the Qur'an - 'laa ila-llahi tuhsharoon' would translate as something like 'then it is not to Allah that you will be gathered...' in which case it would require further indication/content to say where, or to whom, you would be gathered instead, otherwise it wouldn't make sense. And maybe it is because there are few (if any) Christians who memorize the bible, but you are under a huge deception if you think for a moment that it is not possible or conceivable to accurately memorize/know with certainty the entire text of the Qur'an, down to the individual vowel inflections. Not only that, it is yet another deception/illusion to think that at the time of the compilation of the Qur'an, there were no more Huffaaz (people who had memorized the entire Qur'an by heart) left - and you are forgetting a very crucial point in this whole issue of compilation of the Qur'an - Abu Bakr, Umar, Uthman, Ali and Zaid bin Thabit (the one who was tasked with collecting the Qur'an) WERE ALL HUFFAAZ. They all had memorized the Qur'an by heart already during the time of Prophet Muhammad - so simply saying that Zaid had to look for the last verses of Surah Taubah as a way of trying to put into question the preservation of the entirety of the Qur'an is completely useless, because Zaid himself was a hafiz...hence why he himself KNEW that those verses existed, it was only to ensure that it was also kept (both in writing and memory) by another.
The new testament canon was picked because of the vast majority of christians all over the Roman empire and beyond was reading and copying the same books we have today without any contact with one another whatsoever. This outright lie that there was lots of Gospels that was even debated over is pure crap !! These so called "Gospels" have been proven their not apostolic nor was their tradition traced back to the first century. It's known these " gospels " came much later. They wasn't ever taken seriously by the church. These lies deserve to be put on the crap heap along with silly lies like " the trinity is an invention of the council of Nicea, when they decided what went into the Bible". Utter utter utter crap !! It's a lie , it's like the lie about Bible preservation. This so called Bible corruption, these disputed Verses aren't anything like what muslims are told by their vile teachers . The lot combined is is a pathetic half % ... Hardly unreliable.. Even our harshest critics like Bart Ehrman state these scribal errors, these disputed verses don't effect any fundamental christian teaching. The Bible is scrutinized like no other ancient text . The standard of evidence demanded from the Bible is truly unreasonable. These same Scholars are totally happy with other ancient text. Not hardly a question raised when the earliest next text of ancient antiquity is written five hundred years after the fact ..It's a joke !! It's totally Hypocritical !
Every time I find bias against Islam it's well answered back with facts and logic. Today if Ahmed Deedat had bias against Christianity then that bias as never been answered back even after his death. Some jubilate just a single moment where he got something wrong. Recall he was human. 99.9% of preaching no one answers back with use of facts and logic. Nabeel quraish messages biased against Islam are being answered back here on TH-cam. And things are interesting. One is free to allow his brain to sieve information if not I wouldn't be here for additional understanding with out bias
You said: *And maybe it is because there are few (if any) Christians who memorize the bible,* Maybe you should try to memorize it and see just how much bigger the bible is than the Quran.
Actually the reality is this: Arabic is not like English, it has annotations which change the meanings. An Arabic person of that time does not need the annotation to know the meaning, he just knows the correct word. These annotations were not known to the rapidly expanding Muslim populations with many ethnicity and languages. And so they started producing variations. In order to revert to a standard, Caliph Uthman reproduced the text compiled shortly after the death of prophet Mohammad (which is the best version, and closest that was available). Unlike other sacred texts, it was compiled not a 100 or 1000 years later but rather less than 5 years. The accuracy is further strengthened by confirmation on the the correct version by multiple sources and by the writing of the scribes during Prophet Mohammed's time. And yes, Uthman had to get it right because otherwise he can not remain Caliph. The above fact was conveniently left out in the argument of Dr. James. Another fact: most Muslims know that Caliph Uthman compiled the universal version read today because it can be read correctly and understood by a non arabic person like me. So Dr. James is statistically wrong about the 99.whatever %
John michael.... what are saying it makes sense 2018 years ago. Now who's going to follow you...??! holding hands and shit. Please don't bring your offering packets....or ask me for donations.
The psuedo-intellectual comments never cease to sadden me. How all these people in less than the space of one life time come to think so highly of themselves for having acquired such a tiny amount knowledge from some youtube videos and tv documentaries pass judgement and opine on a subject relating to many centuries of collective experience and dedicated learning is so far beyond my limited understanding I am tempted to appeal to a higher authority. Jesus is Great. Peace be upon him!
@@andanandan6061 >> Narrated 'Aisha: that the Prophet married her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old, and then she remained with him for nine years (i.e., till his death).
interesting perspective, and great delivery I just had to give the video a like, it deserves it. However the claim that very few muslims know this is not true. you can test this out by asking any muslim you knw about how the Quran was compiled, did mohammed compile the quran, or the legacy of caliph abubakr. its nt some new discovery, its something very widely known. even in kids books it there, atleast iv seen it in a few books for kids used in schools. it is always an awe to an outsider of a religion when they discover something new about said religion :) However, the power of any religion is how to make its story swallowable and livable. you know but it doesn't disturb you. Scientology Christianity Islam etc. An outisder will always be like "whoa". the inside will always be like "yes true, but the thing is ..."
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HE didn't present these findings in the front off Shabir Ally or any other Muslim scholar because he know he is lying..He has no evidence to prove that most of the Quran is disappeared ...or different....He debated with Shabir Ally 5 times but he never ever asked to Shabir Ally or any other Muslim Scholar regarding theses issues because he better know where he is standing with his allegations...
69:44-47 Had he attributed falsely any words to Us, We would have seized him by his right hand, Then cut off his aorta, 🫀 Sahih al-Bukhari 4428 Narrated `Aisha: The Prophet (ﷺ) in his ailment in which he died, used to say, "O `Aisha! I still feel the pain caused by the food I ate at Khaibar, and at this time, I feel as if my aorta 🫀 is being cut from that poison." Sunan Ibn Majah 1622 ‘Aishah said: “I never saw anyone suffer more pain than the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ).”
My questions to the learned speaker are; (1) "In which language was the new testament revealed?" (2) " Where can we find a copy of the original manuscript?" If you can't be 100% sure about the language in which it was revealed how can you be sure about the authenticity of the available text?" I hope you won't tell me that Greek was the language of Jesus.
*Not James White* I suppose you say "revealed" according to surah 5:46 which states that Jesus was given the Gospel by allah . 1. Jesus Christ, historically was Jewish and spoke Aramaic and Hebrew for religious purposes. He spoke to His disciples in these two languages, and after His recorded crucifixion(Nearly every scholar of antiquity: Believer or not believes Jesus was killed by crucifixion.) these same disciples were martyred for there testimony of Jesus' resurrection. Two of the disciples who learned straight from the source (Jesus himself) wrote an account of what Jesus had done back in the early first century. They claimed that He had done miracles, been born of a virgin, is/was the Word of God, killed by crucifixion, and had been resurrected three days later. 2. Where can we find the original manuscripts of anything from antiquity? We cant, what historians do is reconstruct it with the extent of other manuscripts. By comparing other manuscripts we can build it back almost like a puzzle fitting in where other parts are left out. Not to mention we have first century and second century Church leaders who quoted the gospel, helping us determine what the original was saying. surah 10:94 "And if thou (Muhammad) art in doubt concerning that which We reveal unto thee, then question those who read the Scripture (that was) before thee. Verily the Truth from thy Lord hath come unto thee. So be not thou of the waverers." Why would God in his supreme intellect command Muhammad to ask Christians and Jews about there scripture if he knew it was corrupt." Clearly the author of the Quran believed the Bible was in authority over the Quran.
@YellowBlackbird12 @YellowBlackbird12 Voicless idol? Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God, the LORD is one. Deutronomy 6:4 The most important one," answered Jesus, "is this: 'Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God, the Lord is one. Mark 12:29God is not a man, that he should lie; neither the son of man, that he should repent: hath he said, and shall he not do it? or hath he spoken, and shall he not make it good? Numbers 23:19 In the days of His flesh, He offered up both prayers and supplications with loud crying and tears to the One able to save Him from death, and He was heard because of His piety. Hebrew 5:7 Isn't this a contardiction. So you are telling me that the Muslims and Jews are wrong for worshiping God alone without any partners because they did not believe in the trinity? Jesus Christ never said without any ambiguity that he was God nor that people should believe in the trinity. A doctrinte that was established during the First Council of Nicea 325 AD and later 472 years later in the Second Council of Nicea affirming the Holy spirit as part of the "Father and son" completing the trinity.
@YellowBlackbird12 And when Allah said, “O ‘Īsā, son of Maryam, did you say to the people: ‘Take me and my mother as gods beside Allah?” He said, “Pure are You, it does not behoove me to say what is not right for me. Had I said it, You would have known it. You know what is in my heart, and I do not know what is in Your’s. You alone have full knowledge of all that is unseen. Quran 5:116
This video is old. If you asked James himself now. He will tell you I was wrong then and I am a close to be a muslim now. Who ever try to criticize Islam and have a brain, will realize later, there is nothing to criticize, Islam is the truth.
*If the preservation of the Qur’an failed, there’s no reason to take any other scripture seriously.* The book went through the most vigorous method of authentication, it has a style that facilitates memorization, the book itself encourages memorization, the verses were repeated every single day, and the Arabs were excellent at memorization.
Glorious quran? You mean the book of which a whole sura got lost to history because a goat ate a page from it and the only ones who could memorize is died in a battle? Yeahhh perfectly preserved 😂
What do you not understand? 1) Quran isn’t perfectly preserved. Even if it is it means nothing. I have a perfectly preserved 2008 hs biology textbook alhamdulilah bruda this miracle! 2) perfect preservation is not a requirement for any scripture of god. (Quran doesn’t count as scripture of god bc it isn’t preserved and therefore contradicts itself. **Allah says He has revealed the Quran and He will protect it (15:9)**) He forgot to protect it from prophet Uthman and his revision. 😂
Yet today we can buy more than 30 different Arabic Qurans. And we know that Uthman was required to put the Qurans on paper some 20 years after Mohammed had died. He did that because of 2 main reasons. The first was that too many people who had memorized the Quran has died in battle and the second was that different groups of Muslims recited the Qurans so differently that fights broke out as to who had memorized the Qurans correctly. So just 20 years after Mohammed had died the "excellent memorization" by Arabs had failed completely. And as we can buy more than 30 different Arabic Qurans today we know that the memorization of the Qurans (plural) has not improved.
Documentation is something we can analyze. A dead man’s words, we cannot. The method of transmission the Quran went through is based on memorization which is an extremely flimsy foundation to test the authenticity of the true words of Muhammad. Memorization cannot be perfect. Lol
بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم قَالَ اللَّهُ هَٰذَا يَوْمُ يَنْفَعُ الصَّادِقِينَ صِدْقُهُمْ ۚ لَهُمْ جَنَّاتٌ تَجْرِي مِنْ تَحْتِهَا الْأَنْهَارُ خَالِدِينَ فِيهَا أَبَدًا ۚ رَضِيَ اللَّهُ عَنْهُمْ وَرَضُوا عَنْهُ ۚ ذَٰلِكَ الْفَوْزُ الْعَظِيمُ ﴿١١٩﴾ صدق الله العظيم 119. Allah saith: This is a day in which their truthfulness profiteth the truthful, for theirs are Gardens underneath which rivers flow, wherein they are secure for ever, Allah taking pleasure in them and they in Him. That is the great triumph.
King James Version Bible John 5:1 After this there was a feast of the Jews; and Jesus went up to Jerusalem. 5:2 Now there is at Jerusalem by the sheep market a pool, which is called in the Hebrew tongue Bethesda, having five porches. 5:3 In these lay a great multitude of impotent folk, of blind, halt, withered, waiting for the moving of the water. 5:4 For an angel went down at a certain season into the pool, and troubled the water: whosoever then first after the troubling of the water stepped in was made whole of whatsoever disease he had. 5:5 And a certain man was there, which had an infirmity thirty and eight years. 5:6 When Jesus saw him lie, and knew that he had been now a long time in that case, he saith unto him, Wilt thou be made whole? 5:7 The impotent man answered him, Sir, I have no man, when the water is troubled, to put me into the pool: but while I am coming, another steppeth down before me. 5:8 Jesus saith unto him, Rise, take up thy bed, and walk. 5:9 And immediately the man was made whole, and took up his bed, and walked: and on the same day was the sabbath. 5:10 The Jews therefore said unto him that was cured, It is the sabbath day: it is not lawful for thee to carry thy bed. 5:11 He answered them, He that made me whole, the same said unto me, Take up thy bed, and walk. 5:12 Then asked they him, What man is that which said unto thee, Take up thy bed, and walk? 5:13 And he that was healed wist not who it was: for Jesus had conveyed himself away, a multitude being in that place. 5:14 Afterward Jesus findeth him in the temple, and said unto him, Behold, thou art made whole: sin no more, lest a worse thing come unto thee. 5:15 The man departed, and told the Jews that it was Jesus, which had made him whole. 5:16 And therefore did the Jews persecute Jesus, and sought to slay him, because he had done these things on the sabbath day. 5:17 But Jesus answered them, My Father worketh hitherto, and I work. 5:18 Therefore the Jews sought the more to kill him, because he not only had broken the sabbath, but said also that God was his Father, making himself equal with God. 5:19 Then answered Jesus and said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, The Son can do nothing of himself, but what he seeth the Father do: for what things soever he doeth, these also doeth the Son likewise. 5:20 For the Father loveth the Son, and sheweth him all things that himself doeth: and he will shew him greater works than these, that ye may marvel. 5:21 For as the Father raiseth up the dead, and quickeneth them; even so the Son quickeneth whom he will. 5:22 For the Father judgeth no man, but hath committed all judgment unto the Son: 5:23 That all men should honour the Son, even as they honour the Father. He that honoureth not the Son honoureth not the Father which hath sent him. 5:24 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life. 5:25 Verily, verily, I say unto you, The hour is coming, and now is, when the dead shall hear the voice of the Son of God: and they that hear shall live. 5:26 For as the Father hath life in himself; so hath he given to the Son to have life in himself; 5:27 And hath given him authority to execute judgment also, because he is the Son of man. 5:28 Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice, 5:29 And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation. 5:30 I can of mine own self do nothing: as I hear, I judge: and my judgment is just; because I seek not mine own will, but the will of the Father which hath sent me. 5:31 If I bear witness of myself, my witness is not true. 5:32 There is another that beareth witness of me; and I know that the witness which he witnesseth of me is true. 5:33 Ye sent unto John, and he bare witness unto the truth. 5:34 But I receive not testimony from man: but these things I say, that ye might be saved. 5:35 He was a burning and a shining light: and ye were willing for a season to rejoice in his light. 5:36 But I have greater witness than that of John: for the works which the Father hath given me to finish, the same works that I do, bear witness of me, that the Father hath sent me. 5:37 And the Father himself, which hath sent me, hath borne witness of me. Ye have neither heard his voice at any time, nor seen his shape. 5:38 And ye have not his word abiding in you: for whom he hath sent, him ye believe not. 5:39 Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me. 5:40 And ye will not come to me, that ye might have life. 5:41 I receive not honour from men. 5:42 But I know you, that ye have not the love of God in you. 5:43 I am come in my Father's name, and ye receive me not: if another shall come in his own name, him ye will receive. 5:44 How can ye believe, which receive honour one of another, and seek not the honour that cometh from God only? 5:45 Do not think that I will accuse you to the Father: there is one that accuseth you, even Moses, in whom ye trust. 5:46 For had ye believed Moses, ye would have believed me: for he wrote of me. 5:47 But if ye believe not his writings, how shall ye believe my words?
yea right ;) even your hadits tells us that didn't happened and many people died who memorised. You have no quran from muhammed, uthman burned all, and whats even baffling, uthman made 8 copies and you don't EVEN HAVE THOESE. You don't have nothing. Matter of fact we have 32 different arabic qurans today and they ALL differ from one another. So pleaseeee allah couldn't protect the quran 20 years yet alone for 1400. And even if we read the quran it self it states ''allah protects the quran, and even if ONE DOT is changed then you will know its NOT from god'' its amazing how God exposes things because look here. muahmmed was a false prophet and in that age muhammeds arabic didn't even use dots, but look at the arabic today. Its full of dots, and if you remove those dots it will be IMPOSSIBLE for you to read that arabic. So we see how the REAL GOD made an example of the FALSE PROPHET yet again. There are many many more things wich i won't go into now where the True God Jesus Christ exposes muhammed for what he was, A FALSE PROPHET FROM SATAN
Lol u blinded from the truth. Thousands of contradictions and errors in the new testament and u dare to criticise the Muslim and claim the Koran is so.
@@sandeepperhar5169 You are decived Luke 6 12 One of those days Jesus went out to a mountainside to pray, and spent the night praying to God. Jesus Christ is prophet of Allah
@@waselahendricks3995 how can respect anothers religion when that religion and his prophet called christians names like the worst of the creatures,donkeys,filthy,nages,pigs and monkeys,rags and many other names...tell me how?
yes muslim scholars knows it for century that there are 7 different readings in qur'an that my friend you didn't mentioned once. whayever you have mentioned about burning the Qur'an is absolutely correct he did that because non arabs don't know this and would certainly start fighting on which reading is correct or which isn't ,but both the readings would be correct. its just the difference in between different tribes of arabs in which non arabs would certainly gets confused on. And hazrat uthman(r.a) knew that in future people like you would try to come up with fitna out of it, and so he discarded other readings so that there would be just one reading for whole muslim ummah
@@mssophia978 Other readings of Qur'an were burnt to make sure non-Arab Muslims won't fight each other because of lack of there knowledge in Arabic readings that's all there is to it. Arabs never had any problems with the readings in the first place now one can only read Qur'an in one way.
>> Narrated 'Aisha: that the Prophet married her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old, and then she remained with him for nine years (i.e., till his death).
@@darkheart9668just check the numerical cohesion of the Quran. It doesn’t really need anyone to defend its preservation or defend that it is now as it was intended. Every word , number of chapters , name of chapters. Sometimes even letters. Have a numerical cohesion. That if it had been played with. That cohesion would have been lost. You can search on you tube for more info. They won’t mention that when attacking the book.
I am a muslim scholar...and this is hugely empowering..the deviation in any meaning is nil...non conflicting and non contradictory...preservation as best humanly possible thru the early centuary..the core of the quran can be understood by almost anyone....even in english!!!!
@@alphaomeyou’re a retard. How convenient that he says the killing blow to Muslims but doesn’t go debate it exactly as he said it…. Riiiight. I’ll tell you why genius, cuz they would mop the floor with him and he would be a laughing punchline and all this would only hurt the position of the Bible as uncorrupted book. Ask him to debate this and do this speech when a Muslim can reply to him. I guarantee you he wouldn’t ever do that. This coward intellectual midget and morally castrated snake 🐍
Non contradictory??!? Man, he literally brought up the verse that was contradictory. The difference between "will" and "will not" is pretty contradictory. Either way your quran is clearly not perfectly preserved..
@@travisanderson3920 Timestamp, please. Western academics and Quranic scholars are all unanimous now that the Quran is absolutely preserved. I'd love to look more into that claim of a contradiction.
As a practicing Christian I can tell you this is a continuous issue within our community where lectures are given but there's no one on the other side who could challenge our opinion to prove that we are telling the truth are we are correct yet they go to these lectures and stand there alone on stage and make all these allegations and assumptions and yet there's nobody to dispute those at least challenge them to prove our attentive city whereas the Muslim lecturers do that. they open theirselves up to debate and can prove that there book is from God and invite debate. Anything this elektra is saying can easily be disputed and prove incorrectly by a Muslim lectora yet he doesn't give him the chance to do that instead comes along make these allegations and his options and we as the audience believe that hes telling the truth but we don't know really do we
The Quran was Revealed in the dialect of the tribe of the Quraish to which Prophet Muhammed belonged. Original Arabic is without vowel point and as Islam spread to different regions and countries, each one scripted the text according to their own dialects by essentially adding their vowel points resulting in different pronunciation thereby mutilating the language being at variance with the original text that was in the dialect of the Quraish. Just as the word DIVORCE may be pronounced or PROGRAMME be spelled differently by people, the similar case here too. In order to bring uniformity to pronounce the text in its original dialect, all copies of other dialects were eleminated. Thus the Quran was restored to its original form by Caliph Usman.
Some versions of quran were burnt by caliph Uthman and retained only the version which satisfies himself. The Quran now is Uthman quranic Version written in Qurayish.
Are you that oblivious to the glaring and obvious double standard??? So,.... the Bible is CONSTANTLY scrutinized and every possible error,... no matter how insignificant, e.g. "In my Father's house are many MANSIONS",... vs "In my Father's house are many ROOMS",.... is illuminated, declared, noted, published,.... for the world to examine,..... and Muslims squall that the text is unreliable and there are errors in a version (NIV, NASB, etc). Conversely (and in acute and terminal hypocrisy) even after the willful destruction of hundreds of variations of the Quran,... and the testimony of many Muslim scholars regarding the inconsistencies of the oral and written versions of the Quran,... it is still touted as the infallible Word of God,... and ANYTHING or ANYONE that disagrees,... including the Torah and Bible,... is WRONG and should be disregarded. You accuse Christians of following Paul,.... while you are a disciple of Uthman! Lol!
Osman meant to reduce/remove as many variants as possible and he did that. It is not surprising or controversial that Muslims likely continued to follow his path over the coming century or so to remove all other variants because they knew Osman did the best he could to gather Quran from Hafza (the keeper of the original copy since Abu Bakar's time) and the by having the Huffaaz (those who memorized the Quran by heart) narrate it to the team that compiled the whole Quran. Now you can doubt that Osman did not have the original or modified it but history tells us there were multiple sources of the Quran (Hafza's version and Huffaaz) who had to have come to agreement for this authentic copy to have been compiled. There is no evidence of a massacre to wipe out the Huffaaz or wipe out the original copy of Hafza but rest were wiped because there was no general consensus for those copies and there would have been no end to versions and edits. This was probably done to just avoid this discussion that you are having now and had Osman not done this, there would have been no (at least no easy) way for Osman's most authentic version to be identified correctly
Lost me with the 99.9999997% statement, not plausible as an accurate statistic as requires the knowledge of what every Muslim has or hasn't seen. Why not just say 'many Muslims', hyperbole is the rhetoric of the deceitful, regardless of the topic.
The compilation of the quran by Othman and team was done with high degree of sincerity, responsibility and commitment. The team comprises of many still alived hafiz and written copies on the various media. Dr. JW had given the impression as if all Hafiz were dead in the Yamamah war so as to make his allegation more realistic. Actually, The standard copies were carefully written, verified, agreed and endorsed by specially handpicked team members headed by Othman (who himself is a Hafiz) before all earlier various quran sources were officially burnt (destroyed). This was a genius strategy, else, there will be more confusion as many of the early quran sourses came with owners' notes written on various media. Logically othman had done a very good job by having standard and official quran copy. I cant imagine if Othman or none other individual did this job. Of course Dr. JW will be happier if all the earlier quran private copies with private notes on it are still available now. Dr. ZJW can create more convincing lies.
The whole Egyptian Quran argument has bee debunked. The Quran, even according to western academic and Quranic scholars, is absolutely preserved. This video is nothing but old arguments that have already been debunked.
@@rosyfonseca5426iman= belief Imam = local muslim scholar
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Just because people died in the battle doesnt mean only those people had certain portions of quran memorised. What Umar was talking about was about the people who had memorised the quran completely. Even then hadith tells us that a few hafiz(full memorisers) survived the battle and they contributed to the collection of the quran afterwards. Even then the quran was fact checked both with oral recitation and written scripture. Quran suras were scattered around the land in written parchments which were done at the time of the prophet. Full quran was done in 1st year after Muhammad died by a person who was Muhammad's own secretary and Muhammad would tell him where to place verses and in what order and he would learn from him complete recitation of the quran, since we know the quran was revealed in portions, verses and sometimes full chapters which were not necessarily in order but Muhammad got guidance of their proper order after the fact. Muhammad's secretary Zayd ibn Thabit was the best person who knew the quran after Muhammad. He used his own knowledge but to be even more sure he told everyone in the land to present their recordings with written parchments and them reciting the verses. He would fact check their pronounciation and every letter and then compile the quran. Uthman didn't make up a quran like White says. Literally Uthman with the help of Zayd which honestly did the work for him, literally fact checked every copy of the quran around and got the best version Muhammad ordered by the time he died. Also pretty ironic for a christian to say Uthman 'edited' the quran when literally the whole bible is different scholars writings. Not a single person, uthman or zayd even wrote a single letter to the quran and shipped it as Quran. There was no bible when Jesus left. Literally no bible. Just his sayings that people memorised that later on these writers would quote and then add other verses which Jesus never spoke. The changes you try to mention as different in quran are literally different accents of arabic, that Muhammad himself would recite so that every tribe in arabia would fully grasp the scripture. These accents were taught to him by angel Gabriel himself and everyone knows that and its an authentic knowledge of Islam. Which is right color, or colour? Aluminium or Aloominum Literally all these 7 different version of the Quran are like this. They have the same content but different pronounciation and all are correct since all of them were recited by the Prophet. Neither one removes or adds new letters or words. The reason muslims ridicule bible versions because they really are versions. You can read the same verse in so many different ways. Its not just how you pronounce a word, a whole sentence can be changed. Though the meaning is still the same, that is a problem. Even then you have a translation, of a book written in greek. Even Greek itself wouldnt perfectly describe aramaic that Jesus spoke, so you already lost at preserving scripture, considering Jesus spoke it and wasnt written by other people which is not the case. So you also have that problem. Also claiming Uthman's collection is not preserved is an ignorant statement. Go to the british museum and then get a quran. It will read the same, the full chapter that they have in the museum. You won't find a footnote that says there is a variant because Muslims already know that that variant is not the correct one. Just becuase you find variant copies, that doesn't mean its the true quran. Uthman used the best hafiz and Muhammad's secretary to compile the quran. Other parchments were writings of laymen. The fact that christians have footnotes that say this part has a different meaning, etc shows that they are not confident on what is the true version and what is fabricated so they show it out there in the hopes that maybe in the future they could find more codexes to try to solve that problem. No problem with that, but you can't use that argument to say Quran is wrong. Uthman destroyed other versions because he was confident he had the best Quran.
Ur last line prooves that because of one mans overconfidence ur entire quran's authenticity got shattered. cope harder also no one really read big ass para
I hope among the 2 million viewers who viewed this video at least one who knows the body language to realize that this person who stands to give the lecture had many times touched his nose or rubbed it whenever he was telling a fabrication against Islam or prophet Mohammed peace of Allah be upon him. It is well known to psychologists and sociologists that rubbing the nose or touching it during a speech is a mark of telling lie. All this researches and findings which cost a lot of time and efforts to scholars from opposition of Islam are a great evidences that Islam is a great and has given the opponents headache to find any negative issue against it.
I'm Malaysian Muslim n I learn Quran with ARABIC n understand it by tafseer not translation. Alhamdulillah never doubt about it. I'm not confused at all to understand Quran even tho it's in Arab language
Better start learning arabic since muslims are allowed to lie, deceive/taqiyah, to others. How will you know if you are being lied to? Even your allah is the best of makr, (deceiver/planner in negative sence). Quran 3:54, quran 7:99 and quran 8:30 In Christianity, "thou shallt NOT lie."
I'm so happy that as a Muslim my husband can hit me if I don't listen to him they way he wants me to listen to him. Ayah 4:34 the husband can strike the wife if she won't listen. I'm so happy my husband can marry children before they have a period (Quran 65:4-5). He can have sex with children. Allah is such a righteous god. He cares so much for the women and children. Oh yeah, milk comes from the blood of a cow. Mmm blood milk, so delicious 😋
This is a video regarding a muslim, arabic speaking preacher, saying that "translations contradict each other." th-cam.com/video/GLi5mmCyyl0/w-d-xo.html
Is there any scientific evidence that the Quran has not been changed at all? Have you hear children sing a song with a good rhyme? They memorise it very easily if you keep repetitively play the song for the children. Well this is not only happen to children but also to adults, you remember the perfect lyrics of a song not only because the good rhyme they have, but also the emotion, empathy that you got from the content of the lyrics, well the melody sometimes also helps. Now this is the style of the Qur’an, it is easy to memorise not only for children but also for adult, even more easier if you have spiritual and emotional relationship with the statement in it. Nowadays, every devoted muslims definitely memorise some parts of the qur’an. I my self memorise almost 3% of it, just simply with almost no efforts. Why? Because in our daily prayers (3 times a day at least) the leader of the prayer will repeatedly read the qur’an loudly. You might think, that the priest read the bible loudly but we never memorise them easily. That is one of the specialities of the Qur’an, we memorise it so easily. Well of course, some people can memorise much more than others but in general the simple chapter will be so easy to memorise. Right now, some survey found out every single muslim, even if he is clearly not practising muslim, he will definitely will know a person who memorise the qur’an. As the muslims who memorise the qur’an are abundant. Therefore, even if you or we burn all the printed books of the qur’an, it can be reproduced back to the original version and printed again without any problem by recollecting all of the memory of the people who memorise it, and correcting each other if there are differences. This is the way Qur’an is preserved. So the printed version never ever been used by the muslims to preserve the Qur’an. It just printed to help us navigate and learn about it especially for the beginners. While among the people who completely memorise the whole qur’an,they have a strong tradition to recheck (muroja’ah) of their memory of qur’an by read it loudly among themselves and correcting each other for one month each year, which is in the month of ramadhan. This method of preservation is already in place since the beginning of the revelation, the prophet Muhammad will gather all the companions (they are already hundreds of them) to recheck their memory of Qur’an and correcting them if there are something difference or wrong. This is happens in Ramadhan, the whole month dedicated for this every year, for almost 10 years. Meanwhile, many of them are also write it down on pieces that they could get. But none of them wrote the whole qur’an in book, despite from early time Qur’an is already called the kitab (literally means Book). While they feel, it is unnecessary to do that cause most of them memorise the whole qur’an by heart already. However, after the prophet passed away. Abu Bakr fight a war with some groups or arabs, and in several cases many of the people who memorise the qur’an are died. Well, it was recorded around 70s died while many at least hundreds still alive. Umar propose to Abu Bakr to collect all the pieces where qur’an was wrote down as a complete book. Zaid did this Job, and he said (very famously) that this is the last piece where he found only to one person. Remember this is only the piece in written form, while the lyrics it self already memorise by many of them, or if you want to argue, at least the story itself already clear out that at least two person recognize and agree on it, Zaid and the Owner of that piece. English in america, england, scottland, wales, and Ireland are all english but with different dialect. They understand each other in most cases, and the language still quickly and easily exchange between the natives. Qur’an was recited by the prophet in 7 different dialect of arabs. However, Umar did ask Zaid for the second time to rewrite all pieces into one compelling book and write it down in Quraish dialect. Afterwards, Uthman made five copies of that single copy made on the age of Abu Bakr and Umar and spread it out to many areas of the caliphate while instructing any other piece or copies must be destroyed cause it will cause confusion. On this dialect version of qur’an remain with the muslims until today. How about the other dialect? Well we actually still have those qur’an on other dialect, and some of the people that memorise the qur’an they manage to memorise the complete qur’an in those seven dialects. And we know already that there are no significant difference in meaning between those dialects of qur’an. So in the end of the day, I don’t know if all of these stories will provide evidence. Of course there are some extremists, but if you always bring them to discussion then you’ll never finish discuss everything. Lastly, that is the fact, that all muslims has no big disputes about the actual “lyric” of the qur’an and they can reproduce it even if no printed copies left for them to refer to and this way of preservation already in place since the first time qur’an recited.. And There's an estimate of more than 150 million people who have memorized Quran completely and our 6 years old kid memorized even though his language is not Arabic. Your bible scriptures have more than 70 books and The Bible has been translated from Greek manuscripts. While the translation may be excellent, there is a problem: what are the limits of interpretation or interpolation of the translation compared to the limitations in the Greek, then to Aramaic?Since the Bible is not in the language that Jesus spoke, there has been human intervention in the Bible and it's changed. Mostly Christians don't even know Bible was revealed on jesus in hebrew
Grow up. If you truly believe... Follow the old testament. Its the .0 Its a great book of rules. How can you believe in a god and not follow the his original book of rules? Isn't changing it going against "His word" ? Bet it translate well in to modern THINKING.
Dear brother and sisters i want to tell you all that Allah says in the Quran : "Surely, We have revealed the 'Zhikr' (Quran), and surely, We will preserve it" 15:9 It is Allah who will protect Quran no matter what. Quran can't be changed and can't be destroyed.
Stephen Butler his point is Muslims claim there is only 1 version of the Qur'an, but when you read ancient manuscripts you see that is not so. 1 major thing Muslims bring up to disqualify Christianity is that there are differences in bible versions (translations)
Samuel Alder the probalam I have is it's just all bollocks. I can't wrap my head around how anyone in the modern age can believe in any form of organised religion. And then for us to argue, fight and even kill over it, seems awfully hypocritical considering what all religions are ment to stand for. What's going on now coming out of the middle east is terrible, but the crusades was hardly a high point of the church either. Maybe if wasnt fucking about with their countries for decades, they would of ever brought terror to our door. I was a royal marine so have some in site regarding the shit storm that we have made in the name of peace, that they started when they declared a holy war on us, (the west), because we had been meddling and taking advantage since WW2 ended. And probably before. If we would of left them, their land and their oil alone, we'd of never ended up talking about how evil the qaran is. To get back on point, we are in a war over made up texts. Before the Muslim bogie man we had Christian radicals bombing our cities. Now we have the radical Muslims. I bet the is probably 100x more radicals since we invaded in the name of terror. Ironic but sad. Sorry to go on.
There are no Goddesses, Gods, supernatural powers or magic… If you state otherwise you are either:- Wilfully ignorant; Psychotic, or; A shyster… Why are we here? Nobody will ever know, and making up supernatural powers might be convenient, but it is a lie… Arguing about the reasons behind and or supporting the lie is lunacy, it is a lie. The internet has given access to libraries and universities including the treatises of those who have made peer reviewed and cited studies of were and how these superstitions came about and the simple reality is that all the key figures in these superstitions were invented, particularly those attributed to the Abrahamic superstitions - including Abraham; all these superstitions demonstrate the values of the times that they where made up (how to manage slaves, hatred of homosexuality, woman as property, the windows in the firmament to let in the rain, yadda, yadda) this is either a fact or it is fact that the supernatural power wants slavery - there is no way around that, just like there is no way around the fact the Quran’s inheritance calculation adds up to 112.5% of the estate. Interestingly when the Christian stories about creation where being developed the Chinese already had writing and early forms of woodblock printing while the Abrahamic types were sharing stories about talking snakes, talking donkeys and flying horses etc, etc stories that were portrayed as absolute truth until science proved otherwise then the became fables, allegories or parables. WTF! We obviously evolved and survived by working out that ‘how to get on’, be it family, extended family, village, tribe, regional groupings etc and along the way some realised that we will never know why we are here so they made up gods… ...and the shysters, who now realise that the various superstitions are a lost cause in terms of supporting the obvious BS in them, start pontificating about the reasons behind a god while disregarding that fact that there is no proof and never will be of any ‘gods’ because it was made up. That being the case, the shysters created another magical world(s) without time (this gets around the big bang, science in general and who ‘made’ God or is he/she/it eternal BS) and say the supernatural power exists that ‘world’, controlling us without leaving a trace in ours other than the traces called up in the Abrahamic stories that we now know are all BS. In terms of the ‘meaning of life’ what you mean to others is a sound way to measure it. Final thought, I first meet and really like one of my grandparents when I was 20 and he was 70 - when I see in heaven is he 70, crippled by arthritis and hating it or 20 and unknown to me, but loving it? The whole ‘afterlife’ nonsense is too stupid for words… Think!
CRED Designmatters personally if I had to have a stab of what happened I'd say us being a simulation would have far greater probability that magic fairytales. It may also explain the multiverse theory as they could actually be other sims that live on the 'server' are sim lives on. The big bang when nothing became something, may of simply been the day the server was first turned on. The issue with this idea is, the day it is proven, will be the day the server gets turned off! Sounds mad, but not as mad as creation. But in a creation type sense, God would be the administrator. If I pad this theory out, maybe I could turn it into a religion and make some good money as pope.
organized dogmatic doctrine is often the enemy of reason, progress, truth, justice and morality, but there IS a spiritual, non material aspect of life, which cannot be overlooked. eben alexander and rick strassman, both PhD and medical doctors, share their experiences of the after life/ near death experience/ spiritual revelations in their books, DMT the spirit molecule, and proof of heaven. I think barbarism in islamic and christian extremism, are indefensible, but the comment by renee descartes stands as valid in my mind, due to the things i experienced through ayahuasca, deep meditation and so on: "The pineal gland is the seat of the soul".
Since we are speaking facts then get your facts straight first. 8:35 when the speaker said two of the verses were memorized by one person only; that's the farthest thing from the truth. It was memorized by multiple of the prophet's (PBUH) companions including Zaid Bin Thabet, who was responsibe by Abu Bakr to collect all the verses, but he didn't want to rely just on memory so he sought written text and there was only one person that had it written. Mind you that was only 2 verses out of thousands of verses. All of the other verses had written proof as well as they were memorized by many of the companions. And if you care to read the Quraan, the scientific breakthroughs in it that were mentioned 1400+ years should serve to enlighten you to the nature and source of that magnificent divine book.
@@joycegreer9391 ...Ignorance "Did I not enjoin upon you, O children of Adam, that you not worship Satan - [for] indeed, he is to you a clear enemy" (Quran 36:60) "...do not follow the footsteps of Satan. Indeed, he is to you a clear enemy." (Quran 2:168) "O you who have believed, do not follow the footsteps of Satan. And whoever follows the footsteps of Satan - indeed, he enjoins immorality and wrongdoing." (Quran 24:21) "So, when you recite the Qur’ān, seek refuge with Allah against Satan, the accursed." (Quran 16:98) The Messenger of Allah, peace, and blessings be upon him, said, “Satan said: By Your might, O Lord, I will continue to mislead the children of Adam, as long as their souls are in their bodies. The Lord said: By My might and majesty, I will continue to forgive them, as long as they seek My forgiveness.” (Musnad Ahmad 11367) ...
The Father is Salvation To Come: Yahuah Jesus is Salvation HAS Come: Yahusha THAT is the correct Ancient Hebrew. Not the Yiddish Hebrew that is from the European Ashkenazi Jews who rely on their Babyonian Talmud. It is NOT the ANCIENT Hebrew. The forms of Name's translations are incorrect. Yeshua is simply Joshua and Yahusha's Name was MORE than any mere man's name; as He came from His Father Yahuah- Salvation To Come Yahusha-Salvation has come. The Jews do not know the Father intimately enough to know Him as Savior. That's why they never could accept Jesus as Messiah or the Savior that has come. If you disbelieve, research it for yourself.
As a reformed Christian myself, I'm quite intrigued as to why a self-proclaimed reformed theologian like James White would "subtly" flash the devil horns at the mark 1:38? I have noticed that no one has addressed this in the comments and I think it's rather interesting - actions speak louder than any well-developed debate argument. This fellow (James White) is a freemason, just as Steven Anderson et al.
@@faisalwho I had it right the first time lol. Which Quran do you read? There’s over 31 versions. When your Imams tell you “not one letter has changed” they’re repeating the same lies over and over. We have the historical records of Qurans changing and being altered over time. You should do some independent research instead of letting the same recycled lies reinforce what you think you know.
I'm so happy that as a Muslim my husband can hit me if I don't listen to him they way he wants me to listen to him. Ayah 4:34 the husband can strike the wife if she won't listen. I'm so happy my husband can marry children before they have a period (Quran 65:4-5). He can have sex with children. Allah is such a righteous god. He cares so much for the women and children. Oh yeah, milk comes from the blood of a cow. Mmm blood milk, so delicious 😋
No, don't be insulting towards another's religion. Rather practice your religion as it should be done. Don't insult and misqoute verses if you don't understand it in the context. Rebecca was 3 when she was married off. As a Muslim I'm not allowed to denigrate another's religion. So there are many instances that we can point out in the Bible, but as the Bible is God's word, we respect that and as a good Christian so should you.
@waselahendricks3995 can you please share chapter and verse where she was 3 years old? Man she was one strong 3-year-old if she was able to carry all that water to give to the camels. Won't you just go and read the chapter on on that LOL 🤣 smh on how Muslims will try to justify having sex with children.
>> Narrated 'Aisha: that the Prophet married her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old, and then she remained with him for nine years (i.e., till his death).
Our LORD, GOD and SAVIOUR did create the simplest fabric (H²O) to sustain all of life here on earth. Just as the Jordan and the Euphrates are made of this fabric, so to also are the Bow and the ELbow. 🌹LIFE IS BUT A VAPOUR (H²O)🌹 HOLY BIBLE Habakkuk 3:9 Thy bow was made quite naked (bare), according to the oaths of the tribes (oaths were sworn over your arrows), even thy word, Selah. Thou didst cleave (divided) the earth with rivers. 🙌ALLELUIA🙌 A-men' 🌿
I love Jesus too, I’m a Muslim, and we believe in the Gospel to be true, but the free market James white talking about ended up by human creativity, and someone like Paul made Jesus appears to be a God, on has on words not what Jesus actually say. And this is the problem, Paul words become holy with Jesus.
@Simple-qu1tk I highly question a religion that was founded by a man who married a 6 year old girl (Aisha) and raped her when she was 9. A clear pedophile!
@@APerson4889-g5f. Messiah is Not Almighty GOD. Christ is Not Almighty GOD. Jesus Christ is Not Begotten Son of Almighty GOD. Jesus Christ is Real Messiah But Not Almighty GOD.
So how many Christians know about what Canstantine did; about what happened in the Council of Necaea and other councils; and about the manuscripts purposefully buried in Egypt, an which explain who Jesus really is. How many Christians have even heard of Arius, the Vandal Invasion of Africa, or what the Bizantines called Arianism? What if Arius was not a heretic priest but a persecuted true follower of the original religion of God, as brought forward by Jesus? Why is there a radical difference between King Geiseric and King Canstantine, in terms of fundamental matters of dogma? The very purpose of the Council of Nicaea was to present a unified version of a belief system and getting rid of any other ideologies. Later every monotheistic follower of Jesus would be persecuted by the followers of the concept of trinity, which was propulsed by political power, for political power. If you are a political leader who want to gather the Christians and become king, you would think of having one and only view of Christianity...that was why politics needed at some point a unified Christian belief. Whether or not the one they adopted was true did not matter for their purpose. They could as well chose randomly one of the three or more ideologies presented at Nicaea (which they did, although they pretended to be having a philosophical discussion) Constantine was not particularly attracted to the presentation of Arius. Constantine wanted the concept that the most appealing for the masses, because the more there are followers, the more he has a chance against Rome. So all what a follower has to do is to believe that Jesus died for OUR sins, and salvation is only that...a belief. That is why they invented Catholicism by following Paul (a persecutor of Christians who became one of the major writers of the Bible) That is why they rejected everything that talks about the Unicity of God, the true concept of monotheism (which we find in the Torah, and in the Quran) We can also talk about the idea of begotten son of God being a complete fallacy...but that deserves books on the topic, not just a few lines. My point here is that, what people now call Christianity has been shaped and reshaped by politics, personal gain, ignorance, hericies, intfitrations, revolutions, and hypocrisy. You want to compare that to the Quran? I have studied Arabic and all those remarques presented as issues are just exaggeration of the difference between the early writings and the newer writings. When the speaker says that in Surah 3, verse 158 adding a letter changes the meaning to the opposite, that is not even true. With early Arabic writing (even in writings that predated the life of Muhammad) there was a concept of omission. Imagine if you produce a manuscript and that you omit the dot whenever you write the lowercase "i". Does that affect the meaning at all? That does not disqualify the Quran from being the word of God, you need a more serious proof. Paul was an open enemy of the believers of his time, a mass murderer, later a student of Peter with whom he disagreed on many issues. He followed the path of simplifying religion to the point where everything can be done just with the Holy spirit, alone, so there is no need to circumcise boys (like Jesus himself was), no need to be baptized (and prophet Jesus was baptized by prophet John), no need to fast (like the Jews, Jesus and all the prophets) no need to make prayers. Well let's talk about prayers. There is a religious community called the Samaritans (Nablus, current day Palestine). Look at how they kneel, and then prostate by putting their foreheads to the rog. Those claim to be the true followers of Moses and claim that they have the earliest manuscript of the Torah. When you see a photo of them making the prayer in their praying place, you would think that those are Muslims making the prayer in the mosque. Then when you look at how Jesus was described to kneel and then make his forehead touch the floor, it is astonishing how it is exactly the same. There much more similarity between the Samaritans (Followers of Moses) and Muslims, in terms of rituals, belief, jurisdiction, and even the dress code... Paule did not care about the fact Jesus was reaffirming, confirming, broadening the teachings of Moses, that he did what Moses taught, and that he made the prayer the way Moses did... Paul said "no need for deeds"... Constantine liked the idea, the followers of the real Jesus were persecuted by other Christians this time and not by pagan Romans. Then the Catholic Church was funded. Imagine if in a certain language that make it easier to read the text, as in making it easier for children, or for foreign student of that language. In French, Spanish, Polish, and other European languages there are diacritic signs. Now, in English, there is a difference between how we pronounce "th" in "three" and the same "th" combination in "although"... What is the reason? It is because these Latin letters are not designed for English and in Old English, there was one specific letter for the first sound and another letter for the second. Let me tell you that in Arabic, there are diacritic signs (that are not letters but are added to the letters) and that tell how that one letter should be pronounced. As in Hebrew, Amazigh Language (North Africa), Aramaic, Syriac, ...in Arabic, there is no exact equivalent of the vowel letters we use in European languages. Arabs do not need that to read any text, but in the time of Uthman specifically, there was many Amazigh people (Berbers), Persians, Kurds...who were Muslim an struggled reading the same text that is absolutely easy to read for Arabs. That is why Uthman (who was mentioned in this video) ordered a group of scholars to write the Quran in a standardized way of writing that allows Arabs and non-Arabs to read it correctly. He did not do that by himself but gathered a committee. How does this compare to the story of Paul?
I do not call myself a Christian, so I do not have to chose from all the doctrines that have been proposed in answer to the question "who is Jesus?" So why are you saying that I believe in so many conflicting points on Christianity?
"let's of words" What? Is that even a sentence? In my previous comment, I pointed out some linguistic specificities of Arabic language to show that changing the way the manuscripts were produced did not affect the meanings. Then I contrasted that with what people did to the religion of God, when it comes to the teachings and way of life of Jesus, peace be upon him. They did that for their own reasons but my point is not that this faction is closer to the right path than the other, but my point was that there has been discussions on fundamental matters of religion and not just coming out with a standardized way of calligraphing the word of God. The Arabs did exactly that when a bunch of scholars were gathered by Uthman to accomplish the task. At that time there were non-Arabs who wanted to read the Quran. The speaker on this video calls himself a Christian then what he talks about is how Muslims of today are proud that they have the word of God. Then he presents a few futile remarques about the history of the manuscripts. He did not even try to make the claim that he thinks the Quran is not the word of God but he goes on with details about the early Quran books. That is a dangerous approach because the role of a Christian is to be a good Christian and not attack anyone else. Muslims believe that Jesus received the word of God {as well as certain other prophets did) but the church does not have a book that contains solely the word of God. So the speakers criticizes the way the Arabs changed a little symbol in the caligraphing of the word of God, whereas the early followers of Jesus did not write the world of God at all. Of course the Jews would not do it too because they rejected Jesus and did not accept his claim to be the Messiah. Compare the followers of Jesus of the third century A.D with the Muslims of the third century Hijri. Which of the two groups was confused about religion and dogma? Probably the teachings of Jesus were not recorder, or preserved, for the fact that his own people rejected him. I am not saying that he was not the real Messiah, but I am saying that the reaction of the Jews caused very much loss. Christians of today do not know how Jesus used to make daily payers, how he used to fast, what he said about God, what he said about the Holy Spirit, what he claimed to be himself...
Lyazid CHERGUI I apologize for any typos, I am legally blind. Gotta stop you halfway through. You consider information about the Quran given by a Christian from Mohammedan sources an "attack?" Christians, I suppose have thicker skin. We consider beheading a Christian by a Mohammedan BECAUSE he is a Christian an "attack." Let's start there. Pax et bonum
Really ? I see that you use the term Muhammadan, which I have already heard from some Jews full of hatred (not all the Jews) As for beheading a Christian, it is not in Islamic teaching so go study something else, like maybe criminology, psychology of crime or anything but this has nothing to do with even the subject of this video. Go ask a historian about all the killings, and other atrocities, in the Americas, Africa, and everywhere... I am not a lawyer of a criminal so I don't have to answer that kind of awkward questions. We are supposed to talk about religion.
but the whole core meaning of let say any paragraph in quran's readings(kiraat) is the same , its just a matter of pronouncing a word a little bit differently
Peter O Well, there aren’t. I don’t know how to prove it to ya but just because a random baldy on the internet said something you don’t know much about doesn’t mean it’s true. I often like to research the Abrahamic religions but I don’t search it up on youtube or anything, but rather I reach out to actual Christians, Muslims and Jews.
Indirect insult because everyone was laughing, but he told everyone to listen without distractions, warning the listeners not to get easily distracted and bored about the manuscripts and the people of the Koran
Suba 34, 44:45 Ishmael was not the forefather of Mohammad, Mohammad came from a Quraysh tribe in Yemen and not from Ishmaelites in Paran. Ishmaelites were not the fathers if the Quraish tribe. Ishmaelites were not the fathers of Arabs// instead(Hebrew) Ishmaelites were not the Ancestors of the Prophet Mohammad. Like I said salvation comes from the Jew's and not the Zionism (Hebrew Jewish) Abraham Issac Jacob Ishmael. Praise God for his wisdom, truth and Knowledge. Amen!!! Yeshua Ha'mashiach. (Lord Jesus Christ)
Julie Benjamen 👌 Mohammads family was from a Sabaean Yemeni family and are not connected to any Ishmaelites tribe because Mohammad family did not leave Yemen until the 5th century AD, and that was 1000 years after the Ishmaelites who lived in the deserts of the fertile crescent become extinct or disappeard and many centuries before Mohammed's family left Yemen. Now Ismael or his Decedents never migrated to Saudi Arabia or Mecca in his lifetime and God's word proves to those who seek his word for truth Genisis 25:17-18 Ismael died when he was 137years old, he had 12 Sons that were princes, and the descendents of Ishmael lived in the territory between Havilah and Shur, to the east of Egypt on the way to Assyiria. They lived apart from the decedents of Abraham, meaning that Genisis 25:18 is proof the tribe of Ishmael did not migrate to Saudi arabia or Yemen, and When Abraham was buried by his two Sons Issac and Ishmael they buried him in Israel, they did not travel or migrate to Saudi Arabia they lived in the Region from Egypt Assyria and Mesopotamia. And the Ishmaelites received no Spiritual call from God except for his twelve Sons. The anointed Holy Spirit teaches us only truth, Glory, Honour and Praise to Yeshua Ha'mashiach and Alright God in the Highest. Amen!!! 🙏🙌⛪
Wells In reverse order: Salem witch trials--400 years ago & Protestants. Spanish Inquisition --to combat Muslim Taqiyya--600+ years ago Crusades - to combat the murderous oppression, rape & falsehood spread of Islam--800+ years ago. Please provide statistics on your modern examples in comparison with other religions, including irreligion & anti-religion with mental health baseline. Again, you fail to condemn & admit to the current problem of Islam--no organized religion, Buddhists, Catholics, Protests, Hindus can STAND Muslims, you all make enemies (read your Koran) wherever you are--duh
I can give u some signs see u hand there allah written in arabic and 81 on left and 18 on right in arabic numeric words which is 99 by adding and the as MUHAMMAD (S. A.W) said that 'ALLAH HAS 99 NAMES WHOSOEVER KEEP IT IN MIND TILL THE DAY WILL BE ENTERED IN JANNAH (heaven)
SO WHAT if my spelling or punctuation go wrong I m not the english one, and as for what u say stone age yes it is from stone age and even older when the world doesn't exist.
Its all about manners if u have some show it in public. and I DO NOT SPEAK arabic I SPEAK URDU.THE STRATEGY WHAT HE IS MAKING TO PROVE WRONG MUSLIMS IS WHAT US GOVERNMENT USED TO GO TO MOON. I SuGGeST to be fAIR when u write
solomon duncan give me some reason make some logic.How can u live a life with a logic that our ancestors killed isa, or what u call jesus,christ ,and after killing u say that he was the son of god (maaz allah) he took our sins .And change the bible with ur own will.
So??? His statement is incorrect. Many many Muslims know this... hence the stupid number 99.99997 is merely rediculous. All these gimmicks got him no where.
The first mention of Christianity in Arabia occurs in the New Testament as the Apostle Paul refers to his journey in Arabia following his conversion {Galatians 1: 15-17}. Later, Eusebius of Caesarea discusses a bishop name Beryllus in the sea of Bostra, the site of a synod c. 240 and two Council's of Arabia.*One in 246 a.d. and other in 247. Both before Council of Nicea 325 a.d. both were held against Beryllus, the local bishop, and his followers, who believed that the soul perished upon the death of the body, but that it would one day rise with the body.
The more I do research about Islam, the more ridiculous it looks to me.
The number of dislikes and the amount bof comments of Muslims in here totally proved that , the precious video has reached the expected audience..😁
Muslims can give it but can't take it lol
@@DarkHallwayz we do take it ask a women
There is no GOD but YEHOVAH and Yeshua is His Salvation !
😂 😂 "99.99999"... You wish!
We know the history bro. It is not anything hidden or mysterious. You can easily Google it and find details and sources to that effect.
That being said;
1. He failed to mention why anyone would want to change the message during compilation instead of writing the original message. What did Uthman stand to gain?
(We all know what the Roman's stood to gain by distorting the original message of Jesus... They persecuted him in the first place)
2. You people seem to ignore the fact that all his sources are prominent Islamic scholars(Bukhari, etc). If the compilation were sooo problematic, why didn't they leave Islam for Christianity or any other religion afterwards?
It always amazes me when a Christian finds some common knowledge to preach to his listeners as "novel, mysterious, blah blah blah" 😂
3. Why would 99.99999% of the living scholars agree to burn what they if the message had been "distorted" or "lost" like this man claims?
4. As for the variations in recitation, the Qur'an was revealed in Arabic and the Bedouins at that time had 7 dialects. Hence the slight variations in pronunciations of some words (still same meaning by the way). FYI: The Qur'an is still recited in those dialects even till TODAY! (Guess he didn't know that).
Let me know if you have other concerns regarding this common knowledge that he claims to be "novel" 😂 😂
@@abdallahoftexas7042 wht??
Those who think religion has nothing to do with politics do not know what religion is. - Gandhi
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just simple phrase for you and OTHERS.
DON'T LET EMOTION DO JUDGEMENT
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those who think religion has nothing to do with politics you have to read about #ottoman_empire
lol i checked already it bb he said i dont know so i get that point.
and the other side who said khadijah n her uncle were devout catholics hahaha oky if that is your opinion i am cool but you have to find more good luck
William Gottschalk do u knw... gandhi was british agent... anti hindu muslim supporter...
Top quality lecture. More like this, please!
He can't do more hahaha even this one you have to lie a lot to make it up
@@حروفمبعثرةمبعثرةoh don't be tough
I wish people could see my life I'm a Christian and have been born and raised with every religion, have followed gods commandments as set by moses and have lived a very happy prosperous (not money though) life in total unity. Its these simple things that just need to be adhered to that keep love flowing and growing
The message of the ten commandments was sent to the people of Israel at the time. The rules do not apply today. How do you know the commandments are the real commandments sent?
@@josephhvhayes cos it makes sense
@@josephhvhayesThe mistranslations are rife. They aren't even, "commandments.". The best translation is they are "utterances."
When Jesus come again He will truly reveal Himself in whole Glory and His Almighty nature and everyone in the world will know Who He Is :)
Sir ji the dead don't come back. New Saints and Phrophets will surely show up.
Yes, Jesus is believed to return, and you might wonder who He will recognize as His followers. Consider the following:
Muslims have beards and wear long thobes, similar to how Jesus dressed.
Muslim circumcise jsut like Jesus did.
Muslims pray with their heads on the ground, as Jesus did.
Muslim women wear hijabs and cover themselves, much like Mary, Jesus' mother.
These practices reflect a strong continuity with the traditions of Jesus and his time.
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Utter nonsense rubbish constructive with your time.
excactly brother,every human knee will bow but also every muslim knee will bow and they will not see the isa version of Jesus but Jesus of the Holy bible then they will see how betrayed and fooled they where and we all together going to shout that Jesus is Lord!from where ever religion people are...im praying for that day to come as i live but it doesnt matter cause we all dead or alive going to experience Jesus one day in full glory...
Thanks Dr James! Your idea has initiating me to think more about Islam and the Quran
Hopefully you revert to islam the religion of jesus soon
@حروف مبعثرة مبعثرة
I'm so happy that as a Muslim my husband can hit me if I don't listen to him they way he wants me to listen to him. Ayah 4:34 the husband can strike the wife if she won't listen.
I'm so happy my husband can marry children before they have a period (Quran 65:4-5). He can have sex with children. Allah is such a righteous god. He cares so much for the women and children. Oh yeah, milk comes from the blood of a cow. Mmm blood milk, so delicious 😋
Me too..
I found this very educational, I like how nobody out of 9 thousand people who disliked this video not one can argue or even disprove his argument.
Seems like a sign of ignorance.
Thank you for this most informed lesson!
Quran is written by humans ?.... lets find error ( in Arabic) in it and expose it to everyone
@@person10 Right...lol. Very obviously not.
@@sports_Quiz_fun It's easy to find error. There are other presentations on the errors.
@@sports_Quiz_fun there are multiple quran's that are written differently with different words which change the context of the verses.
@@sports_Quiz_fun good luck
I am a Muslim and I subscribed for this truth
Wow, that's great. It's been five years since your comment. May we have an update on yourself?
@@travisanderson3920 He may have been executed.
Yeah ok Christians are so desperate to save a dying religion
@@jensandersen7011😂😂😂
Hope you accept Jesus by now
Im surprised that James is actually attacking these bibles because he is fine with different versions, this is amazing.
If you have differen versions then every person will have personal opinions of which is true. Thats confusion. God is not God of confusion.
White says that one verse missing is not a problem, but when Quran has different accents that were recited by Muhammad too in the first place, well that is a problem now.
@arabic language is not like english.. that james white dont know anything about arabic.. you need to learn from the expert.. we muslims just sad about how ignorant this james white be..he should ask and learn first before spreading lies to all of you..nothing in the quran is lost.. we have everything in it.. go and learn from the true historian and muslim scholar..
The Bible may have scribal errors which don't alter the message.
@ Take it easy.
James said, the specific Scripture is in the footnotes (because it's descriptive).
I hope this helps ease your mind.
🕊️✝️🙏
@@natlee5051 word of God shouldn't be in a footnote ...
I majored in the Sciences and one must always consider all points otherwise the truth is hopeless and will never be known! I appreciate Dr. White's study of the history of the Koran!
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James was defeated here!
Christian vs. Muslim vs. Judaism vs. Hindu:
"My delusion of "magical sky fairies" is greater than your delusion of "magical sky fairies!"
You are speaking out of ignorance.
I've never seen an atheist win a debate with a learned Muslim.
Bring your best scholar and your best red herring claims about Islam and try to debunk them here.
We want you to debunked Islam so we can leave Islam 🤣🤣🤣.
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Hadrat Usman (RA) was a great scholar of the Holy Qur’an and was a “Hafiz”(i.e. the one who commits the whole Holy Book to memory). He was well versed in “Shan-i-Nuzul” i.e. the chronology of revelation of various verses and the chapters of the Holy Qur’an, and was considered an authority in this respect. He was one of the few Companions who excelled in deriving laws from the verses of the Holy Qur’an. He had a beautiful handwriting because of which the Holy Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) appointed him as one of the scribes of the “Wahy” (Quranic Revelations).
His style of writing was well recognized among the Companions of The Prophet Muhammad PBUH. He was among ten blessed companion of Prophet PBUH. The argument by Mr White carries no weitage as he is portraying that Hadrat Usman was an emporer but he failed to deliver the fact that the man himself was an authority on Quran.
how is he an authority on Quran are you demented
think about it like this bro, if you whisper a sentence in someone’s ear and then tell them to whisper it in someone else’s ear and have that cycle continue 50 times, it’s going to be a completely different sentence.
@@hydrachop4322 😂😂😂 you wrong bro.. quran is not something like that.. you can search on TH-cam and see with your own eyes how Muslims memorised the Quran.. we have both.. memorised and scripture.. your oldest bible size is about a credit card.. not even one sentence is complete I think.. you should laugh to yourself..
@@hydrachop4322 Here’s an example: everyone knows the alphabet goes like this ABCD. Now imagine someone comes along and starts saying the alphabet is ADCB, everyone will know he’s totally wrong.
In short, this is how the Quranic oral tradition has been since the time of the prophet.
Haha Your comment is what holds no weight. You should actually refute the points he made which you didn't. He even points out that the Islamic world largely ignores these points, not even refuting them. That is EXACTLY the kind of thing you have just done.
like you said in the beginning there are people that memorize the whole Quran and once the curl was put together it was sent out to different cities it was right over and they all agreed that it was cracked and that has been brought forward to this thing thank you
😂😂😂 it's been 1500 years and yet we only have one copy
True there is only one authentic origin created by Allah alone there is no other copy of the holy Quran and the only acceptable by Allah on the day of judgement his only religion Islam.There are so many sects in Islam, Christianity, Judaism and other religion who followed their own desires and fancies creating and selling for a small price and on the day of judgement Allah will seperate those who belong to theright and the left people. Those on the right are those on the right path closer to Allah who worship him alone and submissive to his commands and for those on the left are those who belong the hell fire who are heedless deviants ungrateful idolaters and defiant DISBELIEVERS who refuses and rejected 0:08 his verses.
not 1 person ever can quote a whole koran 56:36 virgin delusions, 78:33 voluptuous women delusions, 37:48 glances delusions, 38:52 glances delusions is written proof NO allah/god EVER, OBVIOUSLY mo made genocide "670 million massacred" baby killers is all 2 billion vilevil lowlife godless mohamadans
You have one copy because uthman burned the other version to make it look like one copy. Hahaha @@anabade8268
1.8 billion muslims in the world, 99.99999997 of that is 180, im sure more than 180 muslims have seen this
😂 he was figuratively speaking
They have now
You’re misquoting, sir. The one verse wasn’t found in the memory of just one person. It was found written down with only one person.
His Holy spirit not so holy no more..that's why he lied a lot..
from all that he said you kept this and throwed the rest?
There were still many memorizers left after the battle of YAMAMA . Hafsah 'Quran was checked and rechecked against the original memorizers and A new copy was written with the dialectical marks . This was to ensure that NON ARAB Muslims who did not know the Arabic language don't read the Quran wrongly and pass down the wrong recitation and meaning to the following generations. Don't forget that all the 4 caliphs were huffaz(memorizers of the Quran) from the time of the Prophet Muhammad till their own death. Furthermore the Quran was being memorized since the time of the Prophet till this day.. We have about 11 Million Quranic memorizers today conservatively. We also have several verified authentic manuscripts that date back to the time of the Prophet.
I also memorize my favorite fiction novels
Please point us to your earliest manuscript that matches your current Quran. There are non that date back to the time of your supposed prophet
Yea right, 11 million Muslims memorized an entire Quran.
Not even one person, could memorized an entire Quran.
You people claim the most atrocious & senseless things.
This is why Satan wants the mind, so Satan can confuse & deceive.
God wants our hearts to fill The Holy Spirit of God's Truth; so that we cannot be deceived.
Jesus Is The Truth, The Way & The Life.
Without The Holy Spirit dwelling in you; you cannot claim to be worshipping The Holy God of Heaven & Earth.
✝️🕊️🙏
That is what makes Islam itself a miracle.... I would advise you guys to go to any of the mosques during the month of Ramadan evening tarawih prayers and watch this miracle personally.... Are u afraid to go and see?? Go to any tahfiz school in any part of the world and see this miracle in practice by 9-year-olds....Maybe that will convince you
James white is being paid millions to distort. the truth of Islam, just like David Wood and other Islamophobes.... Just stop the money.. and see what he says..... Read Bart Erhman.... your own biblical scholars.... and what Karen Armstrong has to say on the Quran.... your own people.....
Sir At 6:45 mins ....Sahih Bukhari which hadith it is ?? Page and number please ???.....I Wan to read it ..... so please help me by replying
Vol 6, chapter 61, verses 509 and 510
Hope you find what you are seeking for. I admire that you have listened to this and have that courage to look into the text to find what is true. Hope you read what the Bible say too. God bless you.
@@godislove5799 Hey good day. You should also read the Quran as well. Cant hurt to know what it says
@@chike3539 sure, I have read it, not all and most of the time when I read a chapter , the story seems not complete and most of the time, words keep repeating like a filler.
@@godislove5799 Awesome. Well its really important to note that the Quran isnt a story book. God isn't trying to entertain us. Therefore you wont find any happily ever afters and these kind of things. Words do repeat many times - if you read surah Arrahman for example, you will see the purpose of reapeted words without me needing to explain it, its a really short surah, definitely check it out.
i have read in the bible it say The word was made flesh which is christ and that the word was inspired by God through men to write and there is a grave price if any add or take away ,and when reading the word its living! My God is sure and Loves ! John 3:16
Why do the gospels contradict themselves if god inspired truth to come out of them
@@fuckingsean Because spiritual truth is not the same as literal truth.
@@fuckingseanthe gospels don’t contradict themselves
What have you shown?
I have just watched you talking!
Why did you not put what you supposedly found on TH-cam screen so we could also see?
The Quran has "Suwar" سور, not all came in order each in different time and location. So when the muslims realized that Quran was written on separate papers and many people who memorized it fully (memorized all papers) they gathered the papers and put them in order to form the known Quran book. The Quran doesn't have versions, it was only separated by time, the ones who memorize Quran know it all as if they have the full puzzle done.
You should actually refute the points he made.
Was it not written by Mohamed again?
What about the part of Qur'an eaten by tame sheep?
@@Dunamis-_1.
The Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) was indeed illiterate. He did not know how to read or write. This aspect is significant in Islamic tradition as it emphasizes that the Quran, which he received through divine revelation, was not a product of his own knowledge or literary skill but a miraculous message from Allah. This fact underscores the belief that the Quran is the word of God, given to a prophet who had no means to produce such a text on his own.
What about the part of Qur'an eaten by tame sheep?
You make a claim so please tell us the text that is eaten by the tame sheep.
Surely your best scholar would know whats the missing text.
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The Koran , in no Way compares to bibles. Not coherent. Not uplifting .
false!
I don't want to remarks anything about religions , but I like his way of speech ! Mind blowing.
What is mind blowing, is this man went to great lengths to discredit Islam and the Quran? The question should be why is he discrediting the Quran. Does he feel threatened by the Quran, because any common man is not threatened by the Bible.
part of Al Qur'an was burnt ? hmmm..great presentation sir...Greeting from Indonesia
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And all of Dr. White's presentation's based on Sahih al-Bukhari. Quoting Wikipedia, "Sunni Muslims view this as one of the two most trusted collections of hadith along with Sahih Muslim."
Every Muslim with little knowledge knows that many hufaz were still alive after the revelation of the quran comes to end
👍😀 *One of my favorite variances in the Quranic texts is when the oldest written version ever discovered was found to say "72 grapes", and not "72 virgins". Imagine dying a horrible painful death as an isis fighter, thinking you have 72 virgins waiting for you, when the oldest text actually says GRAPES. 😂 Bahaha* 😆
You ARE WRONG!!!! IT IS CLEAR IT IS 72 Sturgeon. Fish not grapes, well maybe some grapes in the fish mouth.
She Who Knows All : There is no versions in the Qur'an. The Qur'an is the same since it was revealed to the prophet Muhammad peace upon him.
The Christians bible have over 2000 versions. Because it is not the WORD of God.
No where in the entire Qur'an the 72 virgins or 72 grapes.
Christianity is a ant Christ, Paganism cult founded by the Romans who had a Son of God cult. It is imitation of unclean spirits (DEVIL) belief. According to the bible itself.
(MARK 3:11) " And whenever the unclean spirits (DEVILS) beheld him (Jesus), they fell down before him and cried out, "You are the Son of God".
Give the reference, if you are truthfull
She Who Knows All
Answer me this contradictions:
1.Who incited David to count the fighting men of Israel?
(a) God did (2 Samuel 24: 1)
(b) Satan did (I Chronicles 2 1:1)
2.In that count how many fighting men were found in Israel?
(a) Eight hundred thousand (2 Samuel 24:9)
(b) One million, one hundred thousand (IChronicles 21:5)
3. How many fighting men were found in Judah?
(a) Five hundred thousand (2 Samuel 24:9)
(b) Four hundred and seventy thousand (I Chronicles 21:5)
4.God sent his prophet to threaten David with how many years of famine?
(a) Seven (2 Samuel 24:13)
(b) Three (I Chronicles 21:12)
5.How old was Ahaziah when he began to rule over Jerusalem?
(a) Twenty-two (2 Kings 8:26)
(b) Forty-two (2 Chronicles 22:2)
6.How old was Jehoiachin when he became king of Jerusalem?
(a) Eighteen (2 Kings 24:8)
(b) Eight (2 Chronicles 36:9)
The difficulty in reconciling the statement in 1 Chronicles 21:1, “Satan . . . moved David,” with that of 2 Samuel 24:1, “the Lord moved David,” is not problematic. All temptation is permitted by God, but not caused by God. When evil spirits tempt us, they do so by permission (Job 1:12, 2:6; Luke 22:31). Satan therefore provoked David to number the people, and God allowed him to do so. God allows those things which serve to advance His holy and perfect will.
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learly, Israel had already experienced three years of famine before David numbered the people of Israel and Judah-for reasons unrelated to the situation in question. 2 Samuel 24:1-7 record the initiation of the census, but we find in verse 8 that “"when they had gone through all the land, they came to Jerusalem at the end of nine months and twenty days."”
So according to the text, numbering the people was nearly a year-long process, and there is no clear indication that God had suspended the initial three-year famine prior to the events in chapter 24. Now if God had combined three additional years of famine (1 Chronicles 21:12) with the three years of initial famine, and a possible intervening year while the census was conducted, the resulting overall famine would have totaled about seven years (2 Samuel 24:13).
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Young Jehoshaphat and young Athaliah of Israel engage in an illicit affair for political reasons during the reign of Asa.
Jehoshaphat and Athaliah give birth to Ahaziah, perhaps out of wedlock.
Jehoshaphat and his true wife, a woman of Judah, give birth to Jehoram.
Jehoshaphat becomes king of Judah after Asa's death.
By virtue of his relationship to Athaliah, Jehoshaphat king of Judah is given some jurisdiction over Israel and is considered also "king of Israel".
Ahaziah, being Jehoshaphat's son, shares Jehoshaphat's limited jurisdiction over Israel and becomes co-regent of Israel with Ahab at age 22.
Despite being co-regent of Israel by virtue of his father Jehoshaphat's authority, Ahaziah cannot succeed the throne of Israel at Ahab's death because Ahab has his own sons.
Before Jehoshaphat died, he appointed his younger son Jehoram a pure prince of Judah to become king of Judah, bypassing Ahaziah's right to the throne.
Jehoshaphat dies.
Jehoram becomes king of Judah after Jehoshaphat's death.
Jehoram takes Athaliah as his wife.
Ahaziah legally becomes the son of Jehoram, despite being older than Jehoram.
Ahaziah becomes king of Judah at age 42 after Jehoram's death.
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Commentators on these verses explain that Jehoiachin was, in fact, crowned twice. Shortly after Jehoiachin’s father, Jehoiakim, began his reign, he (or the king of Egypt) crowned his eight-year-old son as heir to the throne, to ensure that Jehoiachin would become king after him.
Jehoiakim himself had to wrest the throne (with the help of the King of Egypt) from his younger brother, Jehoahaz. As a result, Jehoiakim wanted to ensure that his firstborn would be firmly ensconced on the throne before his own death.
When Jehoiachin was eighteen, Jehoiakim died and Jehoiachin in fact took the throne.
Fantastic information! Thank you. I will pass this on to others.
Ibn masud said, uthman said, nothing muhamad said ,this guys aguement is dead on arrival, he is basically agueing on different pronounciations but no ommssion of whole verses and charpters just like the bible,he basically more confused.
Abdinasir Omar
Marcus Aurelius-Quinn
He can articulate sentences in English even if incorrectly spelt. Can you say anything in Arabic, dumb fuck?
Nicole'sDance Nation
The point was people outside your world are bi- or multilingual, so no point being an ignorant critic.
As for Christianity, we Muslims respect Christians and always have done by law!
By law, I mean the Sharia of Islam.
This gentleman is mistaken on the Quran, the compilation of which was more sophisticated than he imagines.
Please don't think I know nothing about Christianity. The Quran teaches about what Christians believe and I went to a Christian school.. And my background is Hindu.
All the best.
Dear Brothers and Sisters,
(Christian)
I want to tell you all that it is that you were told by you bible about Muhammad (pbuh) as the final messenger.
And it is written in your book about his name.
In Song of Solomon 5:16
Hik.ko ma m.taq.qim we.kul.low ma.ha.mad.dim zeh do.w.di we.zeh re.‘i be.no.wt ye.ru.sha.lim
ma.ha.mad.dim
This dim is used for respect.
If you still don't believe go search on google about the verses in Bible about Muhammad (pbuh).
Surely there are many.
It never spoke about your fake prophet
"Religion began when the first scoundrel met the first fool."
Voltaire
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This task was undertaken, not lightly, and carried to its conclusion at a time of great personal distress, through which it comforted and sustained the writer in a manner for which he will always be grateful. He therefore acknowledges his gratitude to whatever power or Power inspired the man and the Prophet who first recited these scriptures. I pray that this interpretation, poor echo though it is of the glorious original, may instruct, please, and in some degree inspire those who read it.
A. J. ARBERRY
I am not Muslim but my major is history of religion and I took 3rd year of Islam course. The professor told about the history if Koran and he mentioned Koran cannot be the words exact written from Prophet Muhammad but it is the collection of the texts over a century during Islamic empire. If we read the text we usually find the information of laws and codes in specific matters, not many philosophical wisdom. This text is collection of more political writings then spiritual experience writings.
Watch islam vid facts “Kennedy Report - Sons of Abraham”.
Your "professor" must have hit his head. 🤣🤣
@@Sid0404 Wow, you don't even accept Muslim Scholar Professors !!!
What's wrong with your head, too much truth exposed?!!!
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@@natlee5051your copium is off the charts
Hello Mr. James you can easily get a briefly described answer of your query about the collection, burning and again writting of the holy Quran on TH-cam. Search for it.
Watched the whole video while in the restroom, waiting for the exact “ayat” of veriations, the only thing I heard this guy said this and that guy said that …..
Truth must really hurt. The Quran is corrupted.
@@TheCondescendingRedditorregurgitating doesn’t win arguments, this speaker has been dismantled already
@@DopexBoyFilms No, He has destroyed every so called "Muslim apologist" but I don't blame them. It's hard to defend a flawed religion written by a 5th century warlord lol and it was lost and they memorized by Randoms and then finally recorded. who knows what even happened
The more complicated a thing sounds, the more lies can be hidden within.
Simplicity is the companion of truth.
And Jews and Muslims believe in true monotheism. Not a complicated trinity.
@@sheeshabedin1379 We also believe in one God, but God is not so easy to understand, comprehend, and fully know, because he is all almighty and OUT OF THIS WORLD. And I would say it's almost the same with Muhammed splitting the moon, while everything is calm and with us not dying.
And it's not our fault that Allah couldn't preserve his words (Torah and Injil) "as he does with the Quran". He wanted them to be corrupted by people so that Judaism and Christianity can begin existing hundreds of years BEFORE ISLAM. That means mostly he only wanted you Arabs to be saved, by preserving his word when he gave the right holy book in ARABIC to you Arabs(Muhammed). So it's not our fault that we became Jews and Christians, it's Allah's fault that he couldn't preserve his words FROM THE BEGINNING. Maybe the answer is that this is Allah's divine work to deceive or let people be deceived by his corrupted words right?
@@sheeshabedin1379 woh bruh that comeback was brutal xD
@@sheeshabedin1379 you believe that a illiterate murderer who was choked by a demo gave you your holy book--We will stick with Jesus and alot of Muslims are coming to the truth of Jesus.
@@cinesonicvibes LMAO and u think the bible was revealed in English?
James White best ever debate is the bible reliable don't miss it if you miss it is like you missed half of your life
I beg to differ with this man on one issue. I had one of those Bibles which give you the original words litterally translated
from the original text right under a modern text version of your choice. The original text, is some cases is so not understandable that you are very hard pressed to see how they translated it in the way it is written in the modern version.
I don't know what these Bibles are called, but the only way for you to see what I mean is for you to get one for yourself and read at least most of the New Testament.
But shortly after 11:55 he states that the Curan has been interpreted by a government and several times re-written and older versions destroyed so as to keep anyone from checking the authenticity of the newer versions.
Then he goes on to say this has not happened with the Christian Bible.
WRONG
When the Christian Bible was first printed in English, it was done so by the Catholic church which was a government at that time.
Okay, so according to the logic put forth in this video, there are two options for the New Testament:
1) The same exact thing happened with New Testament when only 4 of the more than 40 known gospels were kept as part of the canonical New Testament - it only says that God did not aid the Christians in preserving and maintaining a unified text, but for Muslims, as He promised in the Qur'an, He kept His promise and guarded the Qur'an so that even if some people believe that there are other 'versions' or missing parts, there is no actual evidence to prove this, as there are no verses or surahs that can be found anywhere - it's like a ghost, a bunch of people claim it exists and tell stories about it, but when it comes to hard evidence, there is none.
2) If, as this gentleman says, it is matter of seeking truth/loving truth over being deceived, all of those other gospels (more than 40 that are not part of the New Testament) should be similarly read and compared to the 4 gospels in the New Testament and should be accepted as having truth in them. This would include the Gospel of Thomas, which says that Jesus went to India/the East after crucifixion, the Gospel of Judas, which says that Judas was actually the dearest disciple of Jesus and not accursed, and gospel of Barnabas which says that Jesus told his disciples not to worship him, that he was only a man, not God, and that they should accept Prophet Muhammad when he comes.
Take your pick.
Also, it is absurd to claim that '99.9999997%' of Muslims have never heard of this. I don't know what kind of Muslims he was referring to in the beginning who acted so surprised when he had told them about it in another instance, but they must have been living under a rock. The history of the compilation of the Qur'an is such a well known subject for Muslims, which should be no surprise seeing as it is clearly described in detail in Sahih Bukhari and other books of Hadith. The fact that he chose these 'variations' verses the apparent variant readings that are present to this day in the Hafs, Doori, Nafi, etc. mus-haf shows just how oblivious this gentleman is. Or maybe its because even those 'variant' readings are not 'variant' by any sense of the word, but merely describe authenticated and accepted forms of reading/pronunciation owing to differing dialects.
The example he gives of chapter 3 verse 158 is also very weak, because it would not be grammatically or linguistically correct for the text to read 'laa ila-llahi tuhsharoon' - if the verse were really to say 'you will NOT be gathered unto Allah', it would have been 'ila-llahi LAA tuhsharoon', because the negating of a verb comes before the verb in Arabic, and this is easily discernible from the rest of the Qur'an - 'laa ila-llahi tuhsharoon' would translate as something like 'then it is not to Allah that you will be gathered...' in which case it would require further indication/content to say where, or to whom, you would be gathered instead, otherwise it wouldn't make sense.
And maybe it is because there are few (if any) Christians who memorize the bible, but you are under a huge deception if you think for a moment that it is not possible or conceivable to accurately memorize/know with certainty the entire text of the Qur'an, down to the individual vowel inflections. Not only that, it is yet another deception/illusion to think that at the time of the compilation of the Qur'an, there were no more Huffaaz (people who had memorized the entire Qur'an by heart) left - and you are forgetting a very crucial point in this whole issue of compilation of the Qur'an - Abu Bakr, Umar, Uthman, Ali and Zaid bin Thabit (the one who was tasked with collecting the Qur'an) WERE ALL HUFFAAZ. They all had memorized the Qur'an by heart already during the time of Prophet Muhammad - so simply saying that Zaid had to look for the last verses of Surah Taubah as a way of trying to put into question the preservation of the entirety of the Qur'an is completely useless, because Zaid himself was a hafiz...hence why he himself KNEW that those verses existed, it was only to ensure that it was also kept (both in writing and memory) by another.
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The new testament canon was picked because of the vast majority of christians all over the Roman empire and beyond was reading and copying the same books we have today without any contact with one another whatsoever. This outright lie that there was lots of Gospels that was even debated over is pure crap !! These so called "Gospels" have been proven their not apostolic nor was their tradition traced back to the first century. It's known these
" gospels " came much later. They wasn't ever taken seriously by the church.
These lies deserve to be put on the crap heap along with silly lies like " the trinity is an invention of the council of Nicea, when they decided what went into the Bible". Utter utter utter crap !!
It's a lie , it's like the lie about Bible preservation. This so called Bible corruption, these disputed Verses aren't anything like what muslims are told by their vile teachers . The lot combined is is a pathetic half % ... Hardly unreliable.. Even our harshest critics like Bart Ehrman state these scribal errors, these disputed verses don't effect any fundamental christian teaching.
The Bible is scrutinized like no other ancient text . The standard of evidence demanded from the Bible is truly unreasonable. These same Scholars are totally happy with other ancient text. Not hardly a question raised when the earliest next text of ancient antiquity is written five hundred years after the fact ..It's a joke !! It's totally Hypocritical !
Every time I find bias against Islam it's well answered back with facts and logic. Today if Ahmed Deedat had bias against Christianity then that bias as never been answered back even after his death. Some jubilate just a single moment where he got something wrong. Recall he was human. 99.9% of preaching no one answers back with use of facts and logic.
Nabeel quraish messages biased against Islam are being answered back here on TH-cam. And things are interesting.
One is free to allow his brain to sieve information if not I wouldn't be here for additional understanding with out bias
You said: *And maybe it is because there are few (if any) Christians who memorize the bible,*
Maybe you should try to memorize it and see just how much bigger the bible is than the Quran.
Actually the reality is this: Arabic is not like English, it has annotations which change the meanings. An Arabic person of that time does not need the annotation to know the meaning, he just knows the correct word. These annotations were not known to the rapidly expanding Muslim populations with many ethnicity and languages. And so they started producing variations.
In order to revert to a standard, Caliph Uthman reproduced the text compiled shortly after the death of prophet Mohammad (which is the best version, and closest that was available). Unlike other sacred texts, it was compiled not a 100 or 1000 years later but rather less than 5 years. The accuracy is further strengthened by confirmation on the the correct version by multiple sources and by the writing of the scribes during Prophet Mohammed's time. And yes, Uthman had to get it right because otherwise he can not remain Caliph.
The above fact was conveniently left out in the argument of Dr. James.
Another fact: most Muslims know that Caliph Uthman compiled the universal version read today because it can be read correctly and understood by a non arabic person like me.
So Dr. James is statistically wrong about the 99.whatever %
Omar Niaz Amen bro.
Amen to that.
John michael.... what are saying it makes sense 2018 years ago.
Now who's going to follow you...??! holding hands and shit.
Please don't bring your offering packets....or ask me for donations.
Omar: Than is not a book for all people.... The world don't speak Arabic dumb nut.
and so are omissions...as a coverup vs INFIDELS!
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James was defeated here!
The psuedo-intellectual comments never cease to sadden me. How all these people in less than the space of one life time come to think so highly of themselves for having acquired such a tiny amount knowledge from some youtube videos and tv documentaries pass judgement and opine on a subject relating to many centuries of collective experience and dedicated learning is so far beyond my limited understanding I am tempted to appeal to a higher authority. Jesus is Great. Peace be upon him!
SteepSix you didn’t refute the video
It would be SO helpful IF the slides were shown for video audiences!
Whoever wrote the Quran in it's present form did a miraculous job!
As we can all buy more than 30 different Arabic Qurans today which of these Qurans are you referring to?
@@johnzuma4688 which ever as long as it has valid chain back to the prophets then it is acceptable.
@@andanandan6061 >> Narrated 'Aisha: that the Prophet married her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old, and then she remained with him for nine years (i.e., till his death).
interesting perspective, and great delivery I just had to give the video a like, it deserves it. However the claim that very few muslims know this is not true. you can test this out by asking any muslim you knw about how the Quran was compiled, did mohammed compile the quran, or the legacy of caliph abubakr. its nt some new discovery, its something very widely known. even in kids books it there, atleast iv seen it in a few books for kids used in schools.
it is always an awe to an outsider of a religion when they discover something new about said religion :)
However, the power of any religion is how to make its story swallowable and livable. you know but it doesn't disturb you.
Scientology
Christianity
Islam etc.
An outisder will always be like "whoa". the inside will always be like "yes true, but the thing is ..."
you didn't listen to video didn't you?
Interesting ? Great delivery ? So you agree that the perfect preservation is not true ?
There's One Major difference in Christianity:
He Is The Holy Spirit Truth of The Holy God; Whom does not exist or dwell in any cult/ religions.
God's Holiness & Righteousness are the most important to understand.
Without The Holy Spirit of God; you cannot discern the truth or fallacies of any cult/religion.
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HE didn't present these findings in the front off Shabir Ally or any other Muslim scholar because he know he is lying..He has no evidence to prove that most of the Quran is disappeared ...or different....He debated with Shabir Ally 5 times but he never ever asked to Shabir Ally or any other Muslim Scholar regarding theses issues because he better know where he is standing with his allegations...
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‘Aishah said:
“I never saw anyone suffer more pain than the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ).”
As long as i know, persons who could memorize Qur'an not called qurah, but hafidz.
My questions to the learned speaker are;
(1) "In which language was the new testament revealed?"
(2) " Where can we find a copy of the original manuscript?"
If you can't be 100% sure about the language in which it was revealed how can you be sure about the authenticity of the available text?"
I hope you won't tell me that Greek was the language of Jesus.
I am still waiting for the answer from the speaker.
*Not James White*
I suppose you say "revealed" according to surah 5:46 which states that Jesus was given the Gospel by allah .
1. Jesus Christ, historically was Jewish and spoke Aramaic and Hebrew for religious purposes. He spoke to His disciples in these two languages, and after His recorded crucifixion(Nearly every scholar of antiquity: Believer or not believes Jesus was killed by crucifixion.) these same disciples were martyred for there testimony of Jesus' resurrection. Two of the disciples who learned straight from the source (Jesus himself) wrote an account of what Jesus had done back in the early first century. They claimed that He had done miracles, been born of a virgin, is/was the Word of God, killed by crucifixion, and had been resurrected three days later.
2. Where can we find the original manuscripts of anything from antiquity? We cant, what historians do is reconstruct it with the extent of other manuscripts. By comparing other manuscripts we can build it back almost like a puzzle fitting in where other parts are left out. Not to mention we have first century and second century Church leaders who quoted the gospel, helping us determine what the original was saying.
surah 10:94 "And if thou (Muhammad) art in doubt concerning that which We reveal unto thee, then question those who read the Scripture (that was) before thee. Verily the Truth from thy Lord hath come unto thee. So be not thou of the waverers." Why would God in his supreme intellect command Muhammad to ask Christians and Jews about there scripture if he knew it was corrupt." Clearly the author of the Quran believed the Bible was in authority over the Quran.
This man is so confident. May his confidence remains on the day of the judgement.
@YellowBlackbird12 Allah literally means God, so you are basically saying "God won't be there but Jesus will".
@YellowBlackbird12 So you are saying Arab Christian worship a false God?
@YellowBlackbird12 @YellowBlackbird12 Voicless idol? Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God, the LORD is one. Deutronomy 6:4 The most important one," answered Jesus, "is this: 'Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God, the Lord is one.
Mark 12:29God is not a man, that he should lie; neither the son of man, that he should repent: hath he said, and shall he not do it? or hath he spoken, and shall he not make it good? Numbers 23:19 In the days of His flesh, He offered up both prayers and supplications with loud crying and tears to the One able to save Him from death, and He was heard because of His piety. Hebrew 5:7
Isn't this a contardiction. So you are telling me that the Muslims and Jews are wrong for worshiping God alone without any partners because they did not believe in the trinity? Jesus Christ never said without any ambiguity that he was God nor that people should believe in the trinity. A doctrinte that was established during the First Council of Nicea 325 AD and later 472 years later in the Second Council of Nicea affirming the Holy spirit as part of the "Father and son" completing the trinity.
For God is not the author of confusion 1 corinthians 14:33
@YellowBlackbird12 And when Allah said, “O ‘Īsā, son of Maryam, did you say to the people: ‘Take me and my mother as gods beside Allah?” He said, “Pure are You, it does not behoove me to say what is not right for me. Had I said it, You would have known it. You know what is in my heart, and I do not know what is in Your’s. You alone have full knowledge of all that is unseen. Quran 5:116
This video is old. If you asked James himself now. He will tell you I was wrong then and I am a close to be a muslim now. Who ever try to criticize Islam and have a brain, will realize later, there is nothing to criticize, Islam is the truth.
*If the preservation of the Qur’an failed, there’s no reason to take any other scripture seriously.*
The book went through the most vigorous method of authentication, it has a style that facilitates memorization, the book itself encourages memorization, the verses were repeated every single day, and the Arabs were excellent at memorization.
Glorious quran? You mean the book of which a whole sura got lost to history because a goat ate a page from it and the only ones who could memorize is died in a battle? Yeahhh perfectly preserved 😂
What do you not understand? 1) Quran isn’t perfectly preserved. Even if it is it means nothing. I have a perfectly preserved 2008 hs biology textbook alhamdulilah bruda this miracle! 2) perfect preservation is not a requirement for any scripture of god. (Quran doesn’t count as scripture of god bc it isn’t preserved and therefore contradicts itself. **Allah says He has revealed the Quran and He will protect it (15:9)**) He forgot to protect it from prophet Uthman and his revision. 😂
Yet today we can buy more than 30 different Arabic Qurans. And we know that Uthman was required to put the Qurans on paper some 20 years after Mohammed had died. He did that because of 2 main reasons. The first was that too many people who had memorized the Quran has died in battle and the second was that different groups of Muslims recited the Qurans so differently that fights broke out as to who had memorized the Qurans correctly. So just 20 years after Mohammed had died the "excellent memorization" by Arabs had failed completely. And as we can buy more than 30 different Arabic Qurans today we know that the memorization of the Qurans (plural) has not improved.
Documentation is something we can analyze. A dead man’s words, we cannot. The method of transmission the Quran went through is based on memorization which is an extremely flimsy foundation to test the authenticity of the true words of Muhammad. Memorization cannot be perfect. Lol
@@menknurlan goat ate a page? you mean the abrogated verse lmao
Non sense and a total lie. The difference is not in the text all over the world. Its only the difference in caligrahy or hand writing.
بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم
قَالَ اللَّهُ هَٰذَا يَوْمُ يَنْفَعُ الصَّادِقِينَ صِدْقُهُمْ ۚ لَهُمْ جَنَّاتٌ تَجْرِي مِنْ تَحْتِهَا الْأَنْهَارُ خَالِدِينَ فِيهَا أَبَدًا ۚ رَضِيَ اللَّهُ عَنْهُمْ وَرَضُوا عَنْهُ ۚ ذَٰلِكَ الْفَوْزُ الْعَظِيمُ ﴿١١٩﴾
صدق الله العظيم
119. Allah saith: This is a day in which their truthfulness profiteth the truthful, for theirs are Gardens underneath which rivers flow, wherein they are secure for ever, Allah taking pleasure in them and they in Him. That is the great triumph.
and then uthman burned all the qurans
King James Version Bible
John 5:1 After this there was a feast of the Jews; and Jesus went up to Jerusalem. 5:2 Now there is at Jerusalem by the sheep market a pool, which is called in the Hebrew tongue Bethesda, having five porches. 5:3 In these lay a great multitude of impotent folk, of blind, halt, withered, waiting for the moving of the water.
5:4 For an angel went down at a certain season into the pool, and troubled the water: whosoever then first after the troubling of the water stepped in was made whole of whatsoever disease he had.
5:5 And a certain man was there, which had an infirmity thirty and eight years. 5:6 When Jesus saw him lie, and knew that he had been now a long time in that case, he saith unto him, Wilt thou be made whole? 5:7 The impotent man answered him, Sir, I have no man, when the water is troubled, to put me into the pool: but while I am coming, another steppeth down before me. 5:8 Jesus saith unto him, Rise, take up thy bed, and walk. 5:9 And immediately the man was made whole, and took up his bed, and walked: and on the same day was the sabbath. 5:10 The Jews therefore said unto him that was cured, It is the sabbath day: it is not lawful for thee to carry thy bed. 5:11 He answered them, He that made me whole, the same said unto me, Take up thy bed, and walk. 5:12 Then asked they him, What man is that which said unto thee, Take up thy bed, and walk? 5:13 And he that was healed wist not who it was: for Jesus had conveyed himself away, a multitude being in that place. 5:14 Afterward Jesus findeth him in the temple, and said unto him, Behold, thou art made whole: sin no more, lest a worse thing come unto thee. 5:15 The man departed, and told the Jews that it was Jesus, which had made him whole. 5:16 And therefore did the Jews persecute Jesus, and sought to slay him, because he had done these things on the sabbath day. 5:17 But Jesus answered them, My Father worketh hitherto, and I work. 5:18 Therefore the Jews sought the more to kill him, because he not only had broken the sabbath, but said also that God was his Father, making himself equal with God. 5:19 Then answered Jesus and said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, The Son can do nothing of himself, but what he seeth the Father do: for what things soever he doeth, these also doeth the Son likewise. 5:20 For the Father loveth the Son, and sheweth him all things that himself doeth: and he will shew him greater works than these, that ye may marvel. 5:21 For as the Father raiseth up the dead, and quickeneth them; even so the Son quickeneth whom he will. 5:22 For the Father judgeth no man, but hath committed all judgment unto the Son: 5:23 That all men should honour the Son, even as they honour the Father. He that honoureth not the Son honoureth not the Father which hath sent him. 5:24 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life. 5:25 Verily, verily, I say unto you, The hour is coming, and now is, when the dead shall hear the voice of the Son of God: and they that hear shall live. 5:26 For as the Father hath life in himself; so hath he given to the Son to have life in himself; 5:27 And hath given him authority to execute judgment also, because he is the Son of man. 5:28 Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice, 5:29 And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation. 5:30 I can of mine own self do nothing: as I hear, I judge: and my judgment is just; because I seek not mine own will, but the will of the Father which hath sent me. 5:31 If I bear witness of myself, my witness is not true. 5:32 There is another that beareth witness of me; and I know that the witness which he witnesseth of me is true. 5:33 Ye sent unto John, and he bare witness unto the truth. 5:34 But I receive not testimony from man: but these things I say, that ye might be saved. 5:35 He was a burning and a shining light: and ye were willing for a season to rejoice in his light. 5:36 But I have greater witness than that of John: for the works which the Father hath given me to finish, the same works that I do, bear witness of me, that the Father hath sent me. 5:37 And the Father himself, which hath sent me, hath borne witness of me. Ye have neither heard his voice at any time, nor seen his shape. 5:38 And ye have not his word abiding in you: for whom he hath sent, him ye believe not. 5:39 Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me. 5:40 And ye will not come to me, that ye might have life. 5:41 I receive not honour from men. 5:42 But I know you, that ye have not the love of God in you. 5:43 I am come in my Father's name, and ye receive me not: if another shall come in his own name, him ye will receive. 5:44 How can ye believe, which receive honour one of another, and seek not the honour that cometh from God only? 5:45 Do not think that I will accuse you to the Father: there is one that accuseth you, even Moses, in whom ye trust. 5:46 For had ye believed Moses, ye would have believed me: for he wrote of me. 5:47 But if ye believe not his writings, how shall ye believe my words?
The people who died in the war after the death of muhammed have completely memorised the quran like people do today 👍
yea right ;) even your hadits tells us that didn't happened and many people died who memorised. You have no quran from muhammed, uthman burned all, and whats even baffling, uthman made 8 copies and you don't EVEN HAVE THOESE. You don't have nothing. Matter of fact we have 32 different arabic qurans today and they ALL differ from one another. So pleaseeee allah couldn't protect the quran 20 years yet alone for 1400. And even if we read the quran it self it states ''allah protects the quran, and even if ONE DOT is changed then you will know its NOT from god'' its amazing how God exposes things because look here. muahmmed was a false prophet and in that age muhammeds arabic didn't even use dots, but look at the arabic today. Its full of dots, and if you remove those dots it will be IMPOSSIBLE for you to read that arabic. So we see how the REAL GOD made an example of the FALSE PROPHET yet again. There are many many more things wich i won't go into now where the True God Jesus Christ exposes muhammed for what he was, A FALSE PROPHET FROM SATAN
Lol u blinded from the truth. Thousands of contradictions and errors in the new testament and u dare to criticise the Muslim and claim the Koran is so.
@@sandeepperhar5169 You are decived
Luke 6 12
One of those days Jesus went out to a mountainside to pray, and spent the night praying to God.
Jesus Christ is prophet of Allah
@@God1stProductions Keep worshipping dead man hanging on the cross ☠️☠️☠️
@@adamsmith586 Islam believes Jesus is coming back and will fight the anti Christ, you don't even know your religion ☠️, such a joke. Jesus is Lord.
Jesus is also ALLAH'S beliver &he is a muslim beyond that momin beyond that he is a prophet HAZRATH PROPHET ISA (JESUS ) ALAISSALAAM..
This is scientific fact: If you hold a Quran to your heart you will feel hate. If you hold the Holy Bible to your heart you will feel love.
Do not denigrate another's religion. If you are a true Christian, you will not denigrate another's religion
How can it be scientific, what evidences have you got with regard to research that you have done
@@waselahendricks3995 how can respect anothers religion when that religion and his prophet called christians names like the worst of the creatures,donkeys,filthy,nages,pigs and monkeys,rags and many other names...tell me how?
Personal hate cannot be every one's hate..
There are more than fifty different Qurans, many words, sentences and many chapters are different.Quran is not preserved as claimed by Muslims.
yes muslim scholars knows it for century that there are 7 different readings in qur'an that my friend you didn't mentioned once.
whayever you have mentioned about burning the Qur'an is absolutely correct he did that because non arabs don't know this and would certainly start fighting on which reading is correct or which isn't ,but both the readings would be correct. its just the difference in between different tribes of arabs in which non arabs would certainly gets confused on.
And hazrat uthman(r.a) knew that in future people like you would try to come up with fitna out of it, and so he discarded other readings so that there would be just one reading for whole muslim ummah
I didn’t know this care to explain further
@@mssophia978 Other readings of Qur'an were burnt to make sure non-Arab Muslims won't fight each other because of lack of there knowledge in Arabic readings that's all there is to it. Arabs never had any problems with the readings in the first place now one can only read Qur'an in one way.
syed sabeeh ahmed fatmi fair enough
How do you know? It’s certainly not throughout the texts - because Uthman burned them...
@@O_Rei What do you mean ?
I am a Muslim before having watched this, and I am still Muslim. These debates were discussed well by Muslim brother Ahmad Dedaat
>> Narrated 'Aisha: that the Prophet married her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old, and then she remained with him for nine years (i.e., till his death).
Can you provide a summary of what he said if you don't mind?
@@darkheart9668just check the numerical cohesion of the Quran. It doesn’t really need anyone to defend its preservation or defend that it is now as it was intended. Every word , number of chapters , name of chapters. Sometimes even letters. Have a numerical cohesion. That if it had been played with. That cohesion would have been lost. You can search on you tube for more info. They won’t mention that when attacking the book.
@@darkheart9668are you still waiting ?
@@saidesimon3144 never got an answer so I guess?
I am a muslim scholar...and this is hugely empowering..the deviation in any meaning is nil...non conflicting and non contradictory...preservation as best humanly possible thru the early centuary..the core of the quran can be understood by almost anyone....even in english!!!!
You are joking! Time to move away from the perfectly preserved mantra. The cat is already out of the bag! 🎉
@@alphaomeyou’re a retard. How convenient that he says the killing blow to Muslims but doesn’t go debate it exactly as he said it…. Riiiight. I’ll tell you why genius, cuz they would mop the floor with him and he would be a laughing punchline and all this would only hurt the position of the Bible as uncorrupted book. Ask him to debate this and do this speech when a Muslim can reply to him. I guarantee you he wouldn’t ever do that. This coward intellectual midget and morally castrated snake 🐍
@@alphaome It's still perfectly preserved. You realize that the Prophet PBUH received the Quran in 7 different ahruf, don't you?
Non contradictory??!? Man, he literally brought up the verse that was contradictory. The difference between "will" and "will not" is pretty contradictory. Either way your quran is clearly not perfectly preserved..
@@travisanderson3920 Timestamp, please. Western academics and Quranic scholars are all unanimous now that the Quran is absolutely preserved. I'd love to look more into that claim of a contradiction.
As a practicing Christian I can tell you this is a continuous issue within our community where lectures are given but there's no one on the other side who could challenge our opinion to prove that we are telling the truth are we are correct yet they go to these lectures and stand there alone on stage and make all these allegations and assumptions and yet there's nobody to dispute those at least challenge them to prove our attentive city whereas the Muslim lecturers do that. they open theirselves up to debate and can prove that there book is from God and invite debate. Anything this elektra is saying can easily be disputed and prove incorrectly by a Muslim lectora yet he doesn't give him the chance to do that instead comes along make these allegations and his options and we as the audience believe that hes telling the truth but we don't know really do we
The Quran was Revealed in the dialect of the tribe of the Quraish to which Prophet Muhammed belonged. Original Arabic is without vowel point and as Islam spread to different regions and countries, each one scripted the text according to their own dialects by essentially adding their vowel points resulting in different pronunciation thereby mutilating the language being at variance with the original text that was in the dialect of the Quraish. Just as the word DIVORCE may be pronounced or PROGRAMME be spelled differently by people, the similar case here too. In order to bring uniformity to pronounce the text in its original dialect, all copies of other dialects were eleminated. Thus the Quran was restored to its original form by Caliph Usman.
Some versions of quran were burnt by caliph Uthman and retained only the version which satisfies himself. The Quran now is Uthman quranic Version written in Qurayish.
Are you that oblivious to the glaring and obvious double standard???
So,.... the Bible is CONSTANTLY scrutinized and every possible error,... no matter how insignificant, e.g. "In my Father's house are many MANSIONS",... vs "In my Father's house are many ROOMS",.... is illuminated, declared, noted, published,.... for the world to examine,..... and Muslims squall that the text is unreliable and there are errors in a version (NIV, NASB, etc).
Conversely (and in acute and terminal hypocrisy) even after the willful destruction of hundreds of variations of the Quran,... and the testimony of many Muslim scholars regarding the inconsistencies of the oral and written versions of the Quran,... it is still touted as the infallible Word of God,... and ANYTHING or ANYONE that disagrees,... including the Torah and Bible,... is WRONG and should be disregarded.
You accuse Christians of following Paul,.... while you are a disciple of Uthman! Lol!
QURAN IS TRUTH .AND WORDS OF ALLAH
And if I type in all caps I lie to myself.
@@jeremiahpillay6219 lol mad because your book is corrupted, different versions and filth.
Deceived people is also found in the Quran y'know!!!
Ayem Mikayo 3$$
Osman meant to reduce/remove as many variants as possible and he did that. It is not surprising or controversial that Muslims likely continued to follow his path over the coming century or so to remove all other variants because they knew Osman did the best he could to gather Quran from Hafza (the keeper of the original copy since Abu Bakar's time) and the by having the Huffaaz (those who memorized the Quran by heart) narrate it to the team that compiled the whole Quran. Now you can doubt that Osman did not have the original or modified it but history tells us there were multiple sources of the Quran (Hafza's version and Huffaaz) who had to have come to agreement for this authentic copy to have been compiled. There is no evidence of a massacre to wipe out the Huffaaz or wipe out the original copy of Hafza but rest were wiped because there was no general consensus for those copies and there would have been no end to versions and edits. This was probably done to just avoid this discussion that you are having now and had Osman not done this, there would have been no (at least no easy) way for Osman's most authentic version to be identified correctly
Lost me with the 99.9999997% statement, not plausible as an accurate statistic as requires the knowledge of what every Muslim has or hasn't seen. Why not just say 'many Muslims', hyperbole is the rhetoric of the deceitful, regardless of the topic.
If Dr. James White did what you suggest, then where is the difference between the corrupt and the honest?
The compilation of the quran by Othman and team was done with high degree of sincerity, responsibility and commitment. The team comprises of many still alived hafiz and written copies on the various media. Dr. JW had given the impression as if all Hafiz were dead in the Yamamah war so as to make his allegation more realistic.
Actually, The standard copies were carefully written, verified, agreed and endorsed by specially handpicked team members headed by Othman (who himself is a Hafiz) before all earlier various quran sources were officially burnt (destroyed). This was a genius strategy, else, there will be more confusion as many of the early quran sourses came with owners' notes written on various media.
Logically othman had done a very good job by having standard and official quran copy. I cant imagine if Othman or none other individual did this job.
Of course Dr. JW will be happier if all the earlier quran private copies with private notes on it are still available now. Dr. ZJW can create more convincing lies.
You have the lies, and not convincing. He never stated all were killed, the "impression" is solely from yourself.
The whole Egyptian Quran argument has bee debunked. The Quran, even according to western academic and Quranic scholars, is absolutely preserved. This video is nothing but old arguments that have already been debunked.
Did your iman tell you that?
@@rosyfonseca5426iman= belief
Imam = local muslim scholar
Just because people died in the battle doesnt mean only those people had certain portions of quran memorised. What Umar was talking about was about the people who had memorised the quran completely. Even then hadith tells us that a few hafiz(full memorisers) survived the battle and they contributed to the collection of the quran afterwards.
Even then the quran was fact checked both with oral recitation and written scripture. Quran suras were scattered around the land in written parchments which were done at the time of the prophet.
Full quran was done in 1st year after Muhammad died by a person who was Muhammad's own secretary and Muhammad would tell him where to place verses and in what order and he would learn from him complete recitation of the quran, since we know the quran was revealed in portions, verses and sometimes full chapters which were not necessarily in order but Muhammad got guidance of their proper order after the fact.
Muhammad's secretary Zayd ibn Thabit was the best person who knew the quran after Muhammad. He used his own knowledge but to be even more sure he told everyone in the land to present their recordings with written parchments and them reciting the verses. He would fact check their pronounciation and every letter and then compile the quran.
Uthman didn't make up a quran like White says. Literally Uthman with the help of Zayd which honestly did the work for him, literally fact checked every copy of the quran around and got the best version Muhammad ordered by the time he died.
Also pretty ironic for a christian to say Uthman 'edited' the quran when literally the whole bible is different scholars writings. Not a single person, uthman or zayd even wrote a single letter to the quran and shipped it as Quran.
There was no bible when Jesus left. Literally no bible. Just his sayings that people memorised that later on these writers would quote and then add other verses which Jesus never spoke.
The changes you try to mention as different in quran are literally different accents of arabic, that Muhammad himself would recite so that every tribe in arabia would fully grasp the scripture. These accents were taught to him by angel Gabriel himself and everyone knows that and its an authentic knowledge of Islam.
Which is right color, or colour? Aluminium or Aloominum
Literally all these 7 different version of the Quran are like this. They have the same content but different pronounciation and all are correct since all of them were recited by the Prophet. Neither one removes or adds new letters or words.
The reason muslims ridicule bible versions because they really are versions. You can read the same verse in so many different ways. Its not just how you pronounce a word, a whole sentence can be changed. Though the meaning is still the same, that is a problem. Even then you have a translation, of a book written in greek. Even Greek itself wouldnt perfectly describe aramaic that Jesus spoke, so you already lost at preserving scripture, considering Jesus spoke it and wasnt written by other people which is not the case. So you also have that problem.
Also claiming Uthman's collection is not preserved is an ignorant statement. Go to the british museum and then get a quran. It will read the same, the full chapter that they have in the museum. You won't find a footnote that says there is a variant because Muslims already know that that variant is not the correct one. Just becuase you find variant copies, that doesn't mean its the true quran. Uthman used the best hafiz and Muhammad's secretary to compile the quran. Other parchments were writings of laymen.
The fact that christians have footnotes that say this part has a different meaning, etc shows that they are not confident on what is the true version and what is fabricated so they show it out there in the hopes that maybe in the future they could find more codexes to try to solve that problem. No problem with that, but you can't use that argument to say Quran is wrong.
Uthman destroyed other versions because he was confident he had the best Quran.
Ur last line prooves that because of one mans overconfidence ur entire quran's authenticity got shattered.
cope harder also no one really read big ass para
hahahaha had good laugh he is fucking lying oh m god
I hope among the 2 million viewers who viewed this video at least one who knows the body language to realize that this person who stands to give the lecture had many times touched his nose or rubbed it whenever he was telling a fabrication against Islam or prophet Mohammed peace of Allah be upon him. It is well known to psychologists and sociologists that rubbing the nose or touching it during a speech is a mark of telling lie. All this researches and findings which cost a lot of time and efforts to scholars from opposition of Islam are a great evidences that Islam is a great and has given the opponents headache to find any negative issue against it.
Damn you are right he did indeed touched his nose too many times
Bro stop reaching
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I'm Malaysian Muslim n I learn Quran with ARABIC n understand it by tafseer not translation. Alhamdulillah never doubt about it. I'm not confused at all to understand Quran even tho it's in Arab language
Better start learning arabic since muslims are allowed to lie, deceive/taqiyah, to others. How will you know if you are being lied to? Even your allah is the best of makr, (deceiver/planner in negative sence).
Quran 3:54, quran 7:99 and quran 8:30
In Christianity, "thou shallt NOT lie."
I'm so happy that as a Muslim my husband can hit me if I don't listen to him they way he wants me to listen to him. Ayah 4:34 the husband can strike the wife if she won't listen.
I'm so happy my husband can marry children before they have a period (Quran 65:4-5). He can have sex with children. Allah is such a righteous god. He cares so much for the women and children. Oh yeah, milk comes from the blood of a cow. Mmm blood milk, so delicious 😋
This is a video regarding a muslim, arabic speaking preacher, saying that "translations contradict each other."
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Is there any scientific evidence that the Quran has not been changed at all?
Have you hear children sing a song with a good rhyme? They memorise it very easily if you keep repetitively play the song for the children. Well this is not only happen to children but also to adults, you remember the perfect lyrics of a song not only because the good rhyme they have, but also the emotion, empathy that you got from the content of the lyrics, well the melody sometimes also helps.
Now this is the style of the Qur’an, it is easy to memorise not only for children but also for adult, even more easier if you have spiritual and emotional relationship with the statement in it. Nowadays, every devoted muslims definitely memorise some parts of the qur’an. I my self memorise almost 3% of it, just simply with almost no efforts. Why? Because in our daily prayers (3 times a day at least) the leader of the prayer will repeatedly read the qur’an loudly. You might think, that the priest read the bible loudly but we never memorise them easily. That is one of the specialities of the Qur’an, we memorise it so easily. Well of course, some people can memorise much more than others but in general the simple chapter will be so easy to memorise.
Right now, some survey found out every single muslim, even if he is clearly not practising muslim, he will definitely will know a person who memorise the qur’an. As the muslims who memorise the qur’an are abundant. Therefore, even if you or we burn all the printed books of the qur’an, it can be reproduced back to the original version and printed again without any problem by recollecting all of the memory of the people who memorise it, and correcting each other if there are differences. This is the way Qur’an is preserved. So the printed version never ever been used by the muslims to preserve the Qur’an. It just printed to help us navigate and learn about it especially for the beginners.
While among the people who completely memorise the whole qur’an,they have a strong tradition to recheck (muroja’ah) of their memory of qur’an by read it loudly among themselves and correcting each other for one month each year, which is in the month of ramadhan.
This method of preservation is already in place since the beginning of the revelation, the prophet Muhammad will gather all the companions (they are already hundreds of them) to recheck their memory of Qur’an and correcting them if there are something difference or wrong. This is happens in Ramadhan, the whole month dedicated for this every year, for almost 10 years.
Meanwhile, many of them are also write it down on pieces that they could get. But none of them wrote the whole qur’an in book, despite from early time Qur’an is already called the kitab (literally means Book). While they feel, it is unnecessary to do that cause most of them memorise the whole qur’an by heart already.
However, after the prophet passed away. Abu Bakr fight a war with some groups or arabs, and in several cases many of the people who memorise the qur’an are died. Well, it was recorded around 70s died while many at least hundreds still alive. Umar propose to Abu Bakr to collect all the pieces where qur’an was wrote down as a complete book. Zaid did this Job, and he said (very famously) that this is the last piece where he found only to one person. Remember this is only the piece in written form, while the lyrics it self already memorise by many of them, or if you want to argue, at least the story itself already clear out that at least two person recognize and agree on it, Zaid and the Owner of that piece.
English in america, england, scottland, wales, and Ireland are all english but with different dialect. They understand each other in most cases, and the language still quickly and easily exchange between the natives. Qur’an was recited by the prophet in 7 different dialect of arabs. However, Umar did ask Zaid for the second time to rewrite all pieces into one compelling book and write it down in Quraish dialect. Afterwards, Uthman made five copies of that single copy made on the age of Abu Bakr and Umar and spread it out to many areas of the caliphate while instructing any other piece or copies must be destroyed cause it will cause confusion.
On this dialect version of qur’an remain with the muslims until today. How about the other dialect? Well we actually still have those qur’an on other dialect, and some of the people that memorise the qur’an they manage to memorise the complete qur’an in those seven dialects. And we know already that there are no significant difference in meaning between those dialects of qur’an.
So in the end of the day, I don’t know if all of these stories will provide evidence. Of course there are some extremists, but if you always bring them to discussion then you’ll never finish discuss everything. Lastly, that is the fact, that all muslims has no big disputes about the actual “lyric” of the qur’an and they can reproduce it even if no printed copies left for them to refer to and this way of preservation already in place since the first time qur’an recited..
And There's an estimate of more than 150 million people who have memorized Quran completely and our 6 years old kid memorized even though his language is not Arabic. Your bible scriptures have more than 70 books and The Bible has been translated from Greek manuscripts.
While the translation may be excellent, there is a problem: what are the limits of interpretation or interpolation of the translation compared to the limitations in the Greek, then to Aramaic?Since the Bible is not in the language that Jesus spoke, there has been human intervention in the Bible and it's changed. Mostly Christians don't even know Bible was revealed on jesus in hebrew
How many have the old testament? how many of you follow it ? lol
Carls good eye only a certain, very small, sect of Jews, who claim to not be jews
Carls good eye are you serious haha do you know who Jesus is and what he did
THEBackpack 10
Never heard of em. Do tell.
Carls good eye the old law was fulfilled through the prophecy of the messiah emanuel( God with us) who is Jesus Christ
Grow up. If you truly believe... Follow the old testament. Its the .0 Its a great book of rules. How can you believe in a god and not follow the his original book of rules? Isn't changing it going against "His word" ? Bet it translate well in to modern THINKING.
Dear brother and sisters i want to tell you all that Allah says in the Quran :
"Surely, We have revealed the 'Zhikr' (Quran), and surely, We will preserve it" 15:9
It is Allah who will protect Quran no matter what.
Quran can't be changed and can't be destroyed.
Hexada Mixes: The Koran is a lie and so are you.. Mr. White got it right about you people.
I don't get his point. They are all BS.
Stephen Butler his point is Muslims claim there is only 1 version of the Qur'an, but when you read ancient manuscripts you see that is not so.
1 major thing Muslims bring up to disqualify Christianity is that there are differences in bible versions (translations)
Samuel Alder the probalam I have is it's just all bollocks. I can't wrap my head around how anyone in the modern age can believe in any form of organised religion. And then for us to argue, fight and even kill over it, seems awfully hypocritical considering what all religions are ment to stand for.
What's going on now coming out of the middle east is terrible, but the crusades was hardly a high point of the church either. Maybe if wasnt fucking about with their countries for decades, they would of ever brought terror to our door.
I was a royal marine so have some in site regarding the shit storm that we have made in the name of peace, that they started when they declared a holy war on us, (the west), because we had been meddling and taking advantage since WW2 ended. And probably before.
If we would of left them, their land and their oil alone, we'd of never ended up talking about how evil the qaran is.
To get back on point, we are in a war over made up texts.
Before the Muslim bogie man we had Christian radicals bombing our cities. Now we have the radical Muslims. I bet the is probably 100x more radicals since we invaded in the name of terror. Ironic but sad.
Sorry to go on.
There are no Goddesses, Gods, supernatural powers or magic…
If you state otherwise you are either:-
Wilfully ignorant;
Psychotic, or;
A shyster…
Why are we here? Nobody will ever know, and making up supernatural powers might be convenient, but it is a lie…
Arguing about the reasons behind and or supporting the lie is lunacy, it is a lie.
The internet has given access to libraries and universities including the treatises of those who have made peer reviewed and cited studies of were and how these superstitions came about and the simple reality is that all the key figures in these superstitions were invented, particularly those attributed to the Abrahamic superstitions - including Abraham; all these superstitions demonstrate the values of the times that they where made up (how to manage slaves, hatred of homosexuality, woman as property, the windows in the firmament to let in the rain, yadda, yadda) this is either a fact or it is fact that the supernatural power wants slavery - there is no way around that, just like there is no way around the fact the Quran’s inheritance calculation adds up to 112.5% of the estate.
Interestingly when the Christian stories about creation where being developed the Chinese already had writing and early forms of woodblock printing while the Abrahamic types were sharing stories about talking snakes, talking donkeys and flying horses etc, etc stories that were portrayed as absolute truth until science proved otherwise then the became fables, allegories or parables. WTF!
We obviously evolved and survived by working out that ‘how to get on’, be it family, extended family, village, tribe, regional groupings etc and along the way some realised that we will never know why we are here so they made up gods…
...and the shysters, who now realise that the various superstitions are a lost cause in terms of supporting the obvious BS in them, start pontificating about the reasons behind a god while disregarding that fact that there is no proof and never will be of any ‘gods’ because it was made up.
That being the case, the shysters created another magical world(s) without time (this gets around the big bang, science in general and who ‘made’ God or is he/she/it eternal BS) and say the supernatural power exists that ‘world’, controlling us without leaving a trace in ours other than the traces called up in the Abrahamic stories that we now know are all BS.
In terms of the ‘meaning of life’ what you mean to others is a sound way to measure it.
Final thought, I first meet and really like one of my grandparents when I was 20 and he was 70 - when I see in heaven is he 70, crippled by arthritis and hating it or 20 and unknown to me, but loving it? The whole ‘afterlife’ nonsense is too stupid for words…
Think!
CRED Designmatters personally if I had to have a stab of what happened I'd say us being a simulation would have far greater probability that magic fairytales. It may also explain the multiverse theory as they could actually be other sims that live on the 'server' are sim lives on.
The big bang when nothing became something, may of simply been the day the server was first turned on.
The issue with this idea is, the day it is proven, will be the day the server gets turned off!
Sounds mad, but not as mad as creation. But in a creation type sense, God would be the administrator.
If I pad this theory out, maybe I could turn it into a religion and make some good money as pope.
organized dogmatic doctrine is often the enemy of reason, progress, truth, justice and morality, but there IS a spiritual, non material aspect of life, which cannot be overlooked.
eben alexander and rick strassman, both PhD and medical doctors, share their experiences of the after life/ near death experience/ spiritual revelations in their books, DMT the spirit molecule, and proof of heaven.
I think barbarism in islamic and christian extremism, are indefensible, but the comment by renee descartes stands as valid in my mind, due to the things i experienced through ayahuasca, deep meditation and so on: "The pineal gland is the seat of the soul".
Since we are speaking facts then get your facts straight first. 8:35 when the speaker said two of the verses were memorized by one person only; that's the farthest thing from the truth. It was memorized by multiple of the prophet's (PBUH) companions including Zaid Bin Thabet, who was responsibe by Abu Bakr to collect all the verses, but he didn't want to rely just on memory so he sought written text and there was only one person that had it written. Mind you that was only 2 verses out of thousands of verses. All of the other verses had written proof as well as they were memorized by many of the companions. And if you care to read the Quraan, the scientific breakthroughs in it that were mentioned 1400+ years should serve to enlighten you to the nature and source of that magnificent divine book.
This is a very useful little video. Thank you.
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@@alphafles8556 Satanic.
@@joycegreer9391 ...Ignorance
"Did I not enjoin upon you, O children of Adam, that you not worship Satan - [for] indeed, he is to you a clear enemy" (Quran 36:60)
"...do not follow the footsteps of Satan. Indeed, he is to you a clear enemy." (Quran 2:168)
"O you who have believed, do not follow the footsteps of Satan. And whoever follows the footsteps of Satan - indeed, he enjoins immorality and wrongdoing." (Quran 24:21)
"So, when you recite the Qur’ān, seek refuge with Allah against Satan, the accursed." (Quran 16:98)
The Messenger of Allah, peace, and blessings be upon him, said, “Satan said: By Your might, O Lord, I will continue to mislead the children of Adam, as long as their souls are in their bodies. The Lord said: By My might and majesty, I will continue to forgive them, as long as they seek My forgiveness.” (Musnad Ahmad 11367)
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@@joycegreer9391 ooh you are burning because the truth has reached your ears and heart.
@@alphafles8556 Satan is the great deceiver.
An unusually interesting video , good work .
My faith is deeply rooted on the ( Kjv) I can certainly attest 2 "YESHUA" DIVINE LIVING POWER"
~thy BLESSINGS~ >Matthew 5< 🌼🌼🌼BEATITUDES🌼🌼🌼
Maria Hinderscheid its yahweh
YAHWEH...means.. "GOD"...
YESHUA..is the Devine son.The one christians call (Jesus).....
Uvhiha Shisui.(Taqiyya.)
Stand behind Yeshua;you Satan!😀
Uchiha Shisui
Ignorant are those who beg for harsh words...
The Father is Salvation To Come: Yahuah
Jesus is Salvation HAS Come: Yahusha
THAT is the correct Ancient Hebrew. Not the Yiddish Hebrew that is from the European Ashkenazi Jews who rely on their Babyonian Talmud. It is NOT the ANCIENT Hebrew. The forms of Name's translations are incorrect. Yeshua is simply Joshua and Yahusha's Name was MORE than any mere man's name; as He came from His Father Yahuah- Salvation To Come
Yahusha-Salvation has come.
The Jews do not know the Father intimately enough to know Him as Savior. That's why they never could accept Jesus as Messiah or the Savior that has come.
If you disbelieve, research it for yourself.
As a reformed Christian myself, I'm quite intrigued as to why a self-proclaimed reformed theologian like James White would "subtly" flash the devil horns at the mark 1:38? I have noticed that no one has addressed this in the comments and I think it's rather interesting - actions speak louder than any well-developed debate argument. This fellow (James White) is a freemason, just as Steven Anderson et al.
wow dr's way of debate is so good GOD bless him
This was not a debate 😂
Without lies, Islam dies.
Speak of your own religion,and stop obsessing over Islam,without lies Christianity dies and no l didn’t watch the video
@@nejlababali7901 Like how u dint watch the part in quran, where Muhammad married aisha and cost of apostacy is death. explains why u are muslim still
@@nejlababali7901Too scared of truth?
You are mistaken. What you really mean is
“Even with the christians’s lies, Islam thrives”
@@faisalwho I had it right the first time lol. Which Quran do you read? There’s over 31 versions. When your Imams tell you “not one letter has changed” they’re repeating the same lies over and over. We have the historical records of Qurans changing and being altered over time. You should do some independent research instead of letting the same recycled lies reinforce what you think you know.
I'm so happy that as a Muslim my husband can hit me if I don't listen to him they way he wants me to listen to him. Ayah 4:34 the husband can strike the wife if she won't listen.
I'm so happy my husband can marry children before they have a period (Quran 65:4-5). He can have sex with children. Allah is such a righteous god. He cares so much for the women and children. Oh yeah, milk comes from the blood of a cow. Mmm blood milk, so delicious 😋
No, don't be insulting towards another's religion. Rather practice your religion as it should be done. Don't insult and misqoute verses if you don't understand it in the context. Rebecca was 3 when she was married off. As a Muslim I'm not allowed to denigrate another's religion. So there are many instances that we can point out in the Bible, but as the Bible is God's word, we respect that and as a good Christian so should you.
@waselahendricks3995 can you please share chapter and verse where she was 3 years old? Man she was one strong 3-year-old if she was able to carry all that water to give to the camels. Won't you just go and read the chapter on on that LOL 🤣 smh on how Muslims will try to justify having sex with children.
i’ve heared all of the mentioned hadith!!i am muslim
>> Narrated 'Aisha: that the Prophet married her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old, and then she remained with him for nine years (i.e., till his death).
So sad for your soul
@@mikkel6763 why do you care so much? why can't you just let people follow their religion
Our LORD, GOD and SAVIOUR did create the simplest fabric (H²O) to sustain all of life here on earth.
Just as the Jordan and the Euphrates are made of this fabric, so to also are the Bow and the ELbow.
🌹LIFE IS BUT A VAPOUR (H²O)🌹
HOLY BIBLE
Habakkuk 3:9
Thy bow was made quite naked (bare),
according to the oaths of the tribes
(oaths were sworn over your arrows),
even thy word, Selah.
Thou didst cleave (divided) the earth
with rivers.
🙌ALLELUIA🙌
A-men' 🌿
The holy Qur'an is a devinely protected book
Watch 26 different Arabic qurans
inna nahnu nazzalna zikra wa inna nahnu la hafizun (AL-HIJR AYAT 9)
This is amazing. Not because we can say "haha youre wrong" but because i absolutely love jesus and its so beautiful to know the bible is true
I love Jesus too, I’m a Muslim, and we believe in the Gospel to be true, but the free market James white talking about ended up by human creativity, and someone like Paul made Jesus appears to be a God, on has on words not what Jesus actually say. And this is the problem, Paul words become holy with Jesus.
@Simple-qu1tk I highly question a religion that was founded by a man who married a 6 year old girl (Aisha) and raped her when she was 9. A clear pedophile!
6:40
Jesus is Lord
christ is Not Almighty GOD.
Messiah is Not Almighty GOD.
Jesus Christ is Not Begotten son of Almighty GOD.
@@worshipperofallah1
Jesus Christ is GOD.
@@APerson4889-g5f.
Messiah is Not Almighty GOD.
Christ is Not Almighty GOD.
Jesus Christ is Not Begotten Son of Almighty GOD.
Jesus Christ is Real Messiah But Not Almighty GOD.
@@worshipperofallah1
He is God.
@@APerson4889-g5f.
Messiah (i.e christ ) is Not Almighty GOD.
Jesus Christ is the True Messiah But Not Almighty GOD.
So how many Christians know about what Canstantine did; about what happened in the Council of Necaea and other councils; and about the manuscripts purposefully buried in Egypt, an which explain who Jesus really is.
How many Christians have even heard of Arius, the Vandal Invasion of Africa, or what the Bizantines called Arianism?
What if Arius was not a heretic priest but a persecuted true follower of the original religion of God, as brought forward by Jesus?
Why is there a radical difference between King Geiseric and King Canstantine, in terms of fundamental matters of dogma?
The very purpose of the Council of Nicaea was to present a unified version of a belief system and getting rid of any other ideologies.
Later every monotheistic follower of Jesus would be persecuted by the followers of the concept of trinity, which was propulsed by political power, for political power.
If you are a political leader who want to gather the Christians and become king, you would think of having one and only view of Christianity...that was why politics needed at some point a unified Christian belief.
Whether or not the one they adopted was true did not matter for their purpose.
They could as well chose randomly one of the three or more ideologies presented at Nicaea (which they did, although they pretended to be having a philosophical discussion)
Constantine was not particularly attracted to the presentation of Arius.
Constantine wanted the concept that the most appealing for the masses, because the more there are followers, the more he has a chance against Rome.
So all what a follower has to do is to believe that Jesus died for OUR sins, and salvation is only that...a belief.
That is why they invented Catholicism by following Paul (a persecutor of Christians who became one of the major writers of the Bible)
That is why they rejected everything that talks about the Unicity of God, the true concept of monotheism (which we find in the Torah, and in the Quran)
We can also talk about the idea of begotten son of God being a complete fallacy...but that deserves books on the topic, not just a few lines.
My point here is that, what people now call Christianity has been shaped and reshaped by politics, personal gain, ignorance, hericies, intfitrations, revolutions, and hypocrisy.
You want to compare that to the Quran?
I have studied Arabic and all those remarques presented as issues are just exaggeration of the difference between the early writings and the newer writings.
When the speaker says that in Surah 3, verse 158 adding a letter changes the meaning to the opposite, that is not even true.
With early Arabic writing (even in writings that predated the life of Muhammad) there was a concept of omission.
Imagine if you produce a manuscript and that you omit the dot whenever you write the lowercase "i".
Does that affect the meaning at all?
That does not disqualify the Quran from being the word of God, you need a more serious proof.
Paul was an open enemy of the believers of his time, a mass murderer, later a student of Peter with whom he disagreed on many issues. He followed the path of simplifying religion to the point where everything can be done just with the Holy spirit, alone, so there is no need to circumcise boys (like Jesus himself was), no need to be baptized (and prophet Jesus was baptized by prophet John), no need to fast (like the Jews, Jesus and all the prophets) no need to make prayers.
Well let's talk about prayers.
There is a religious community called the Samaritans (Nablus, current day Palestine).
Look at how they kneel, and then prostate by putting their foreheads to the rog.
Those claim to be the true followers of Moses and claim that they have the earliest manuscript of the Torah.
When you see a photo of them making the prayer in their praying place, you would think that those are Muslims making the prayer in the mosque.
Then when you look at how Jesus was described to kneel and then make his forehead touch the floor, it is astonishing how it is exactly the same.
There much more similarity between the Samaritans (Followers of Moses) and Muslims, in terms of rituals, belief, jurisdiction, and even the dress code...
Paule did not care about the fact Jesus was reaffirming, confirming, broadening the teachings of Moses, that he did what Moses taught, and that he made the prayer the way Moses did...
Paul said "no need for deeds"...
Constantine liked the idea, the followers of the real Jesus were persecuted by other Christians this time and not by pagan Romans.
Then the Catholic Church was funded.
Imagine if in a certain language that make it easier to read the text, as in making it easier for children, or for foreign student of that language.
In French, Spanish, Polish, and other European languages there are diacritic signs.
Now, in English, there is a difference between how we pronounce "th" in "three" and the same "th" combination in "although"...
What is the reason?
It is because these Latin letters are not designed for English and in Old English, there was one specific letter for the first sound and another letter for the second.
Let me tell you that in Arabic, there are diacritic signs (that are not letters but are added to the letters) and that tell how that one letter should be pronounced.
As in Hebrew, Amazigh Language (North Africa), Aramaic, Syriac, ...in Arabic, there is no exact equivalent of the vowel letters we use in European languages.
Arabs do not need that to read any text, but in the time of Uthman specifically, there was many Amazigh people (Berbers), Persians, Kurds...who were Muslim an struggled reading the same text that is absolutely easy to read for Arabs.
That is why Uthman (who was mentioned in this video) ordered a group of scholars to write the Quran in a standardized way of writing that allows Arabs and non-Arabs to read it correctly.
He did not do that by himself but gathered a committee.
How does this compare to the story of Paul?
I do not call myself a Christian, so I do not have to chose from all the doctrines that have been proposed in answer to the question "who is Jesus?"
So why are you saying that I believe in so many conflicting points on Christianity?
Lyazid CHERGUI let's of words--did you have a point?
"let's of words"
What?
Is that even a sentence?
In my previous comment, I pointed out some linguistic specificities of Arabic language to show that changing the way the manuscripts were produced did not affect the meanings.
Then I contrasted that with what people did to the religion of God, when it comes to the teachings and way of life of Jesus, peace be upon him.
They did that for their own reasons but my point is not that this faction is closer to the right path than the other, but my point was that there has been discussions on fundamental matters of religion and not just coming out with a standardized way of calligraphing the word of God.
The Arabs did exactly that when a bunch of scholars were gathered by Uthman to accomplish the task. At that time there were non-Arabs who wanted to read the Quran.
The speaker on this video calls himself a Christian then what he talks about is how Muslims of today are proud that they have the word of God.
Then he presents a few futile remarques about the history of the manuscripts.
He did not even try to make the claim that he thinks the Quran is not the word of God but he goes on with details about the early Quran books.
That is a dangerous approach because the role of a Christian is to be a good Christian and not attack anyone else.
Muslims believe that Jesus received the word of God {as well as certain other prophets did) but the church does not have a book that contains solely the word of God.
So the speakers criticizes the way the Arabs changed a little symbol in the caligraphing of the word of God, whereas the early followers of Jesus did not write the world of God at all.
Of course the Jews would not do it too because they rejected Jesus and did not accept his claim to be the Messiah.
Compare the followers of Jesus of the third century A.D with the Muslims of the third century Hijri.
Which of the two groups was confused about religion and dogma?
Probably the teachings of Jesus were not recorder, or preserved, for the fact that his own people rejected him.
I am not saying that he was not the real Messiah, but I am saying that the reaction of the Jews caused very much loss.
Christians of today do not know how Jesus used to make daily payers, how he used to fast, what he said about God, what he said about the Holy Spirit, what he claimed to be himself...
Lyazid CHERGUI I apologize for any typos, I am legally blind.
Gotta stop you halfway through.
You consider information about the Quran given by a Christian from Mohammedan sources an "attack?"
Christians, I suppose have thicker skin. We consider beheading a Christian by a Mohammedan BECAUSE he is a Christian an "attack."
Let's start there.
Pax et bonum
Really ?
I see that you use the term Muhammadan, which I have already heard from some Jews full of hatred (not all the Jews)
As for beheading a Christian, it is not in Islamic teaching so go study something else, like maybe criminology, psychology of crime or anything but this has nothing to do with even the subject of this video.
Go ask a historian about all the killings, and other atrocities, in the Americas, Africa, and everywhere...
I am not a lawyer of a criminal so I don't have to answer that kind of awkward questions.
We are supposed to talk about religion.
Oh my, only 0.0000000003 know this me and my 100+million friend learnt it when we were 15.🤣🤣
I agree islam is autism
nazgul barakas ....
@عبدالملك نواف oh my country lah
but the whole core meaning of let say any paragraph in quran's readings(kiraat) is the same , its just a matter of pronouncing a word a little bit differently
Into 7 minutes and nothing good
I didn't learn anything from that
Well I didn't know that there were other versions of the Quran that were burnt by Uthman so that there would only be one version
Peter O
Well, there aren’t. I don’t know how to prove it to ya but just because a random baldy on the internet said something you don’t know much about doesn’t mean it’s true.
I often like to research the Abrahamic religions but I don’t search it up on youtube or anything, but rather I reach out to actual Christians, Muslims and Jews.
Nicht von dieser Welt
When you’re trying to prove something but have no evidence so instead you rely on insults. Basically your comment.
Nicht von dieser Welt/ I would get more sense out of a rock than this message, (meaningless)
You mama it is yamama
Indirect insult because everyone was laughing, but he told everyone to listen without distractions, warning the listeners not to get easily distracted and bored about the manuscripts and the people of the Koran
Suba 34, 44:45 Ishmael was not the forefather of Mohammad, Mohammad came from a Quraysh tribe in Yemen and not from Ishmaelites in Paran. Ishmaelites were not the fathers if the Quraish tribe. Ishmaelites were not the fathers of Arabs// instead(Hebrew) Ishmaelites were not the Ancestors of the Prophet Mohammad. Like I said salvation comes from the Jew's and not the Zionism (Hebrew Jewish) Abraham Issac Jacob Ishmael. Praise God for his wisdom, truth and Knowledge. Amen!!! Yeshua Ha'mashiach. (Lord Jesus Christ)
Micke Toohey .what Jews and Arab are different. Arab are the descendants of Ismael
Julie Benjamen 👌 Mohammads family was from a Sabaean Yemeni family and are not connected to any Ishmaelites tribe because Mohammad family did not leave Yemen until the 5th century AD, and that was 1000 years after the Ishmaelites who lived in the deserts of the fertile crescent become extinct or disappeard and many centuries before Mohammed's family left Yemen. Now Ismael or his Decedents never migrated to Saudi Arabia or Mecca in his lifetime and God's word proves to those who seek his word for truth Genisis 25:17-18 Ismael died when he was 137years old, he had 12 Sons that were princes, and the descendents of Ishmael lived in the territory between Havilah and Shur, to the east of Egypt on the way to Assyiria. They lived apart from the decedents of Abraham, meaning that Genisis 25:18 is proof the tribe of Ishmael did not migrate to Saudi arabia or Yemen, and When Abraham was buried by his two Sons Issac and Ishmael they buried him in Israel, they did not travel or migrate to Saudi Arabia they lived in the Region from Egypt Assyria and Mesopotamia. And the Ishmaelites received no Spiritual call from God except for his twelve Sons. The anointed Holy Spirit teaches us only truth, Glory, Honour and Praise to Yeshua Ha'mashiach and Alright God in the Highest. Amen!!! 🙏🙌⛪
Sir 1st video mentioned in description is removed 😱 by the youtube, is there anyway for me to see that video?
If anyone knows plz let me know plz.🙏
Criticizes the history of the Quran, ignores that the Bible's history has many very similar problems...
Wells yeah, but Christians don't walk around killing people in the name of Allah
+catholicdad: How stupid of me! How could I forget that Christians have no history of violence in the name of Yahweh?
Wells --do we? Provide examples please
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Wells
In reverse order:
Salem witch trials--400 years ago & Protestants.
Spanish Inquisition --to combat Muslim Taqiyya--600+ years ago
Crusades - to combat the murderous oppression, rape & falsehood spread of Islam--800+ years ago.
Please provide statistics on your modern examples in comparison with other religions, including irreligion & anti-religion with mental health baseline.
Again, you fail to condemn & admit to the current problem of Islam--no organized religion, Buddhists, Catholics, Protests, Hindus can STAND Muslims, you all make enemies (read your Koran) wherever you are--duh
I can give u some signs see u hand there allah written in arabic and 81 on left and 18 on right in arabic numeric words which is 99 by adding and the as MUHAMMAD (S. A.W) said that 'ALLAH HAS 99 NAMES WHOSOEVER KEEP IT IN MIND TILL THE DAY WILL BE ENTERED IN JANNAH (heaven)
SO WHAT if my spelling or punctuation go wrong I m not the english one, and as for what u say stone age yes it is from stone age and even older when the world doesn't exist.
Its all about manners if u have some show it in public. and I DO NOT SPEAK arabic I SPEAK URDU.THE STRATEGY WHAT HE IS MAKING TO PROVE WRONG MUSLIMS IS WHAT US GOVERNMENT USED TO GO TO MOON. I SuGGeST to be fAIR when u write
the truth is they haven't
How can u say that when u don't have the knowledge. solomon duncan
solomon duncan give me some reason make some logic.How can u live a life with a logic that our ancestors killed isa, or what u call jesus,christ ,and after killing u say that he was the son of god (maaz allah) he took our sins .And change the bible with ur own will.
So??? His statement is incorrect. Many many Muslims know this... hence the stupid number 99.99997 is merely rediculous.
All these gimmicks got him no where.
oh so knowledgeable.......about the click bait
The first mention of Christianity in Arabia occurs in the New Testament as the Apostle Paul refers to his journey in Arabia following his conversion {Galatians 1: 15-17}. Later, Eusebius of Caesarea discusses a bishop name Beryllus in the sea of Bostra, the site of a synod c. 240 and two Council's of Arabia.*One in 246 a.d. and other in 247. Both before Council of Nicea 325 a.d.
both were held against Beryllus, the local bishop, and his followers, who believed that the soul perished upon the death of the body, but that it would one day rise with the body.
Lol.. you think this is gonna make me convert?!