99.99999997% of all Muslims have Never Seen This [Dr. James White]
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- Clip taken from "Dr. James White - Islam A-Z (1/2)": • Video
Dr. James White mentioned that he did not have time to go through the transmission of the New Testament, so here is a video of his explanation:
• The Reliability of the...
The number of dislikes and the amount bof comments of Muslims in here totally proved that , the precious video has reached the expected audience..😁
Muslims can give it but can't take it lol
@@Craig-gq4gb we do take it ask a women
There is no GOD but YEHOVAH and Yeshua is His Salvation !
😂 😂 "99.99999"... You wish!
We know the history bro. It is not anything hidden or mysterious. You can easily Google it and find details and sources to that effect.
That being said;
1. He failed to mention why anyone would want to change the message during compilation instead of writing the original message. What did Uthman stand to gain?
(We all know what the Roman's stood to gain by distorting the original message of Jesus... They persecuted him in the first place)
2. You people seem to ignore the fact that all his sources are prominent Islamic scholars(Bukhari, etc). If the compilation were sooo problematic, why didn't they leave Islam for Christianity or any other religion afterwards?
It always amazes me when a Christian finds some common knowledge to preach to his listeners as "novel, mysterious, blah blah blah" 😂
3. Why would 99.99999% of the living scholars agree to burn what they if the message had been "distorted" or "lost" like this man claims?
4. As for the variations in recitation, the Qur'an was revealed in Arabic and the Bedouins at that time had 7 dialects. Hence the slight variations in pronunciations of some words (still same meaning by the way). FYI: The Qur'an is still recited in those dialects even till TODAY! (Guess he didn't know that).
Let me know if you have other concerns regarding this common knowledge that he claims to be "novel" 😂 😂
@@abdallahoftexas7042 wht??
Those who think religion has nothing to do with politics do not know what religion is. - Gandhi
Angra Mainyu
just simple phrase for you and OTHERS.
DON'T LET EMOTION DO JUDGEMENT
William Gottschalk ń
those who think religion has nothing to do with politics you have to read about #ottoman_empire
lol i checked already it bb he said i dont know so i get that point.
and the other side who said khadijah n her uncle were devout catholics hahaha oky if that is your opinion i am cool but you have to find more good luck
William Gottschalk do u knw... gandhi was british agent... anti hindu muslim supporter...
Top quality lecture. More like this, please!
He can't do more hahaha even this one you have to lie a lot to make it up
@@user-gg8lp5yr4ioh don't be tough
Sir 1st video mentioned in description is removed 😱 by the youtube, is there anyway for me to see that video?
If anyone knows plz let me know plz.🙏
I wish people could see my life I'm a Christian and have been born and raised with every religion, have followed gods commandments as set by moses and have lived a very happy prosperous (not money though) life in total unity. Its these simple things that just need to be adhered to that keep love flowing and growing
The message of the ten commandments was sent to the people of Israel at the time. The rules do not apply today. How do you know the commandments are the real commandments sent?
@@josephhayes535 cos it makes sense
@@josephhayes535The mistranslations are rife. They aren't even, "commandments.". The best translation is they are "utterances."
The Quran has "Suwar" سور, not all came in order each in different time and location. So when the muslims realized that Quran was written on separate papers and many people who memorized it fully (memorized all papers) they gathered the papers and put them in order to form the known Quran book. The Quran doesn't have versions, it was only separated by time, the ones who memorize Quran know it all as if they have the full puzzle done.
You should actually refute the points he made.
Was it not written by Mohamed again?
What about the part of Qur'an eaten by tame sheep?
@@Dunamis-_1.
The Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) was indeed illiterate. He did not know how to read or write. This aspect is significant in Islamic tradition as it emphasizes that the Quran, which he received through divine revelation, was not a product of his own knowledge or literary skill but a miraculous message from Allah. This fact underscores the belief that the Quran is the word of God, given to a prophet who had no means to produce such a text on his own.
What about the part of Qur'an eaten by tame sheep?
You make a claim so please tell us the text that is eaten by the tame sheep.
Surely your best scholar would know whats the missing text.
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The Koran , in no Way compares to bibles. Not coherent. Not uplifting .
Sir At 6:45 mins ....Sahih Bukhari which hadith it is ?? Page and number please ???.....I Wan to read it ..... so please help me by replying
Vol 6, chapter 61, verses 509 and 510
Hope you find what you are seeking for. I admire that you have listened to this and have that courage to look into the text to find what is true. Hope you read what the Bible say too. God bless you.
@@godislove5799 Hey good day. You should also read the Quran as well. Cant hurt to know what it says
@@chike3539 sure, I have read it, not all and most of the time when I read a chapter , the story seems not complete and most of the time, words keep repeating like a filler.
@@godislove5799 Awesome. Well its really important to note that the Quran isnt a story book. God isn't trying to entertain us. Therefore you wont find any happily ever afters and these kind of things. Words do repeat many times - if you read surah Arrahman for example, you will see the purpose of reapeted words without me needing to explain it, its a really short surah, definitely check it out.
Can someone help me find this quote. Not finding it in "Sahih al-bukhari, volume 5 pages 509-510." If you can send a link that would be nice, thankyou.
It's vol 6 chapter 61 verses 509 and 510
Thanks Dr James! Your idea has initiating me to think more about Islam and the Quran
Hopefully you revert to islam the religion of jesus soon
@حروف مبعثرة مبعثرة
I'm so happy that as a Muslim my husband can hit me if I don't listen to him they way he wants me to listen to him. Ayah 4:34 the husband can strike the wife if she won't listen.
I'm so happy my husband can marry children before they have a period (Quran 65:4-5). He can have sex with children. Allah is such a righteous god. He cares so much for the women and children. Oh yeah, milk comes from the blood of a cow. Mmm blood milk, so delicious 😋
Me too..
part of Al Qur'an was burnt ? hmmm..great presentation sir...Greeting from Indonesia
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And all of Dr. White's presentation's based on Sahih al-Bukhari. Quoting Wikipedia, "Sunni Muslims view this as one of the two most trusted collections of hadith along with Sahih Muslim."
بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم
قَالَ اللَّهُ هَٰذَا يَوْمُ يَنْفَعُ الصَّادِقِينَ صِدْقُهُمْ ۚ لَهُمْ جَنَّاتٌ تَجْرِي مِنْ تَحْتِهَا الْأَنْهَارُ خَالِدِينَ فِيهَا أَبَدًا ۚ رَضِيَ اللَّهُ عَنْهُمْ وَرَضُوا عَنْهُ ۚ ذَٰلِكَ الْفَوْزُ الْعَظِيمُ ﴿١١٩﴾
صدق الله العظيم
119. Allah saith: This is a day in which their truthfulness profiteth the truthful, for theirs are Gardens underneath which rivers flow, wherein they are secure for ever, Allah taking pleasure in them and they in Him. That is the great triumph.
and then uthman burned all the qurans
Without lies, Islam dies.
Speak of your own religion,and stop obsessing over Islam,without lies Christianity dies and no l didn’t watch the video
@@nejlababali7901 Like how u dint watch the part in quran, where Muhammad married aisha and cost of apostacy is death. explains why u are muslim still
@@nejlababali7901Too scared of truth?
@@nejlababali7901 Watch the video.
You are mistaken. What you really mean is
“Even with the christians’s lies, Islam thrives”
If we all start putting the same amount of energy in taking care of each other and looking what we all have in common, instead of trying to prove who's wrong or right, earth would be a much better place!
RisseAstraGSi agreed
Agree
A start would be revealing that these religions and their "prophets" are all human inventions. They have nothing to do with any god. All that greed, power, threat, fear, violence, manipulation and sociopathic need to control are humans being human. This is why they have invented a psychopathic god - it reflects themselves perfectly.
Try telling that to a muslim who is a hard core believer, while he/she is trying to kill you...
+Paul Ammon look up the Encyclopedia of Wars. While what you said is an oft repeated claim, the facts just do not support it. Not even close, actually.
Hadrat Usman (RA) was a great scholar of the Holy Qur’an and was a “Hafiz”(i.e. the one who commits the whole Holy Book to memory). He was well versed in “Shan-i-Nuzul” i.e. the chronology of revelation of various verses and the chapters of the Holy Qur’an, and was considered an authority in this respect. He was one of the few Companions who excelled in deriving laws from the verses of the Holy Qur’an. He had a beautiful handwriting because of which the Holy Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) appointed him as one of the scribes of the “Wahy” (Quranic Revelations).
His style of writing was well recognized among the Companions of The Prophet Muhammad PBUH. He was among ten blessed companion of Prophet PBUH. The argument by Mr White carries no weitage as he is portraying that Hadrat Usman was an emporer but he failed to deliver the fact that the man himself was an authority on Quran.
how is he an authority on Quran are you demented
think about it like this bro, if you whisper a sentence in someone’s ear and then tell them to whisper it in someone else’s ear and have that cycle continue 50 times, it’s going to be a completely different sentence.
@@hydrachop4322 😂😂😂 you wrong bro.. quran is not something like that.. you can search on TH-cam and see with your own eyes how Muslims memorised the Quran.. we have both.. memorised and scripture.. your oldest bible size is about a credit card.. not even one sentence is complete I think.. you should laugh to yourself..
@@hydrachop4322 Here’s an example: everyone knows the alphabet goes like this ABCD. Now imagine someone comes along and starts saying the alphabet is ADCB, everyone will know he’s totally wrong.
In short, this is how the Quranic oral tradition has been since the time of the prophet.
Haha Your comment is what holds no weight. You should actually refute the points he made which you didn't. He even points out that the Islamic world largely ignores these points, not even refuting them. That is EXACTLY the kind of thing you have just done.
I don't want to remarks anything about religions , but I like his way of speech ! Mind blowing.
Christian vs. Muslim vs. Judaism vs. Hindu:
"My delusion of "magical sky fairies" is greater than your delusion of "magical sky fairies!"
You are speaking out of ignorance.
I've never seen an atheist win a debate with a learned Muslim.
Bring your best scholar and your best red herring claims about Islam and try to debunk them here.
We want you to debunked Islam so we can leave Islam 🤣🤣🤣.
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Im surprised that James is actually attacking these bibles because he is fine with different versions, this is amazing.
If you have differen versions then every person will have personal opinions of which is true. Thats confusion. God is not God of confusion.
White says that one verse missing is not a problem, but when Quran has different accents that were recited by Muhammad too in the first place, well that is a problem now.
@arabic language is not like english.. that james white dont know anything about arabic.. you need to learn from the expert.. we muslims just sad about how ignorant this james white be..he should ask and learn first before spreading lies to all of you..nothing in the quran is lost.. we have everything in it.. go and learn from the true historian and muslim scholar..
The Bible may have scribal errors which don't alter the message.
@ Take it easy.
James said, the specific Scripture is in the footnotes (because it's descriptive).
I hope this helps ease your mind.
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@@natlee5051 word of God shouldn't be in a footnote ...
This task was undertaken, not lightly, and carried to its conclusion at a time of great personal distress, through which it comforted and sustained the writer in a manner for which he will always be grateful. He therefore acknowledges his gratitude to whatever power or Power inspired the man and the Prophet who first recited these scriptures. I pray that this interpretation, poor echo though it is of the glorious original, may instruct, please, and in some degree inspire those who read it.
A. J. ARBERRY
I majored in the Sciences and one must always consider all points otherwise the truth is hopeless and will never be known! I appreciate Dr. White's study of the history of the Koran!
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James was defeated here!
I found this very educational, I like how nobody out of 9 thousand people who disliked this video not one can argue or even disprove his argument.
Seems like a sign of ignorance.
Thank you for this most informed lesson!
Quran is written by humans ?.... lets find error ( in Arabic) in it and expose it to everyone
@@person10 Right...lol. Very obviously not.
@@sports_Quiz_fun It's easy to find error. There are other presentations on the errors.
@@sports_Quiz_fun there are multiple quran's that are written differently with different words which change the context of the verses.
@@sports_Quiz_fun good luck
like you said in the beginning there are people that memorize the whole Quran and once the curl was put together it was sent out to different cities it was right over and they all agreed that it was cracked and that has been brought forward to this thing thank you
😂😂😂 it's been 1500 years and yet we only have one copy
True there is only one authentic origin created by Allah alone there is no other copy of the holy Quran and the only acceptable by Allah on the day of judgement his only religion Islam.There are so many sects in Islam, Christianity, Judaism and other religion who followed their own desires and fancies creating and selling for a small price and on the day of judgement Allah will seperate those who belong to theright and the left people. Those on the right are those on the right path closer to Allah who worship him alone and submissive to his commands and for those on the left are those who belong the hell fire who are heedless deviants ungrateful idolaters and defiant DISBELIEVERS who refuses and rejected 0:08 his verses.
not 1 person ever can quote a whole koran 56:36 virgin delusions, 78:33 voluptuous women delusions, 37:48 glances delusions, 38:52 glances delusions is written proof NO allah/god EVER, OBVIOUSLY mo made genocide "670 million massacred" baby killers is all 2 billion vilevil lowlife godless mohamadans
You have one copy because uthman burned the other version to make it look like one copy. Hahaha @@anabade8268
1.8 billion muslims in the world, 99.99999997 of that is 180, im sure more than 180 muslims have seen this
😂 he was figuratively speaking
Hello Mr. James you can easily get a briefly described answer of your query about the collection, burning and again writting of the holy Quran on TH-cam. Search for it.
but the whole core meaning of let say any paragraph in quran's readings(kiraat) is the same , its just a matter of pronouncing a word a little bit differently
i have read in the bible it say The word was made flesh which is christ and that the word was inspired by God through men to write and there is a grave price if any add or take away ,and when reading the word its living! My God is sure and Loves ! John 3:16
Why do the gospels contradict themselves if god inspired truth to come out of them
@@fuckingsean8922 Because spiritual truth is not the same as literal truth.
Fantastic information! Thank you. I will pass this on to others.
Okay, so according to the logic put forth in this video, there are two options for the New Testament:
1) The same exact thing happened with New Testament when only 4 of the more than 40 known gospels were kept as part of the canonical New Testament - it only says that God did not aid the Christians in preserving and maintaining a unified text, but for Muslims, as He promised in the Qur'an, He kept His promise and guarded the Qur'an so that even if some people believe that there are other 'versions' or missing parts, there is no actual evidence to prove this, as there are no verses or surahs that can be found anywhere - it's like a ghost, a bunch of people claim it exists and tell stories about it, but when it comes to hard evidence, there is none.
2) If, as this gentleman says, it is matter of seeking truth/loving truth over being deceived, all of those other gospels (more than 40 that are not part of the New Testament) should be similarly read and compared to the 4 gospels in the New Testament and should be accepted as having truth in them. This would include the Gospel of Thomas, which says that Jesus went to India/the East after crucifixion, the Gospel of Judas, which says that Judas was actually the dearest disciple of Jesus and not accursed, and gospel of Barnabas which says that Jesus told his disciples not to worship him, that he was only a man, not God, and that they should accept Prophet Muhammad when he comes.
Take your pick.
Also, it is absurd to claim that '99.9999997%' of Muslims have never heard of this. I don't know what kind of Muslims he was referring to in the beginning who acted so surprised when he had told them about it in another instance, but they must have been living under a rock. The history of the compilation of the Qur'an is such a well known subject for Muslims, which should be no surprise seeing as it is clearly described in detail in Sahih Bukhari and other books of Hadith. The fact that he chose these 'variations' verses the apparent variant readings that are present to this day in the Hafs, Doori, Nafi, etc. mus-haf shows just how oblivious this gentleman is. Or maybe its because even those 'variant' readings are not 'variant' by any sense of the word, but merely describe authenticated and accepted forms of reading/pronunciation owing to differing dialects.
The example he gives of chapter 3 verse 158 is also very weak, because it would not be grammatically or linguistically correct for the text to read 'laa ila-llahi tuhsharoon' - if the verse were really to say 'you will NOT be gathered unto Allah', it would have been 'ila-llahi LAA tuhsharoon', because the negating of a verb comes before the verb in Arabic, and this is easily discernible from the rest of the Qur'an - 'laa ila-llahi tuhsharoon' would translate as something like 'then it is not to Allah that you will be gathered...' in which case it would require further indication/content to say where, or to whom, you would be gathered instead, otherwise it wouldn't make sense.
And maybe it is because there are few (if any) Christians who memorize the bible, but you are under a huge deception if you think for a moment that it is not possible or conceivable to accurately memorize/know with certainty the entire text of the Qur'an, down to the individual vowel inflections. Not only that, it is yet another deception/illusion to think that at the time of the compilation of the Qur'an, there were no more Huffaaz (people who had memorized the entire Qur'an by heart) left - and you are forgetting a very crucial point in this whole issue of compilation of the Qur'an - Abu Bakr, Umar, Uthman, Ali and Zaid bin Thabit (the one who was tasked with collecting the Qur'an) WERE ALL HUFFAAZ. They all had memorized the Qur'an by heart already during the time of Prophet Muhammad - so simply saying that Zaid had to look for the last verses of Surah Taubah as a way of trying to put into question the preservation of the entirety of the Qur'an is completely useless, because Zaid himself was a hafiz...hence why he himself KNEW that those verses existed, it was only to ensure that it was also kept (both in writing and memory) by another.
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The new testament canon was picked because of the vast majority of christians all over the Roman empire and beyond was reading and copying the same books we have today without any contact with one another whatsoever. This outright lie that there was lots of Gospels that was even debated over is pure crap !! These so called "Gospels" have been proven their not apostolic nor was their tradition traced back to the first century. It's known these
" gospels " came much later. They wasn't ever taken seriously by the church.
These lies deserve to be put on the crap heap along with silly lies like " the trinity is an invention of the council of Nicea, when they decided what went into the Bible". Utter utter utter crap !!
It's a lie , it's like the lie about Bible preservation. This so called Bible corruption, these disputed Verses aren't anything like what muslims are told by their vile teachers . The lot combined is is a pathetic half % ... Hardly unreliable.. Even our harshest critics like Bart Ehrman state these scribal errors, these disputed verses don't effect any fundamental christian teaching.
The Bible is scrutinized like no other ancient text . The standard of evidence demanded from the Bible is truly unreasonable. These same Scholars are totally happy with other ancient text. Not hardly a question raised when the earliest next text of ancient antiquity is written five hundred years after the fact ..It's a joke !! It's totally Hypocritical !
Every time I find bias against Islam it's well answered back with facts and logic. Today if Ahmed Deedat had bias against Christianity then that bias as never been answered back even after his death. Some jubilate just a single moment where he got something wrong. Recall he was human. 99.9% of preaching no one answers back with use of facts and logic.
Nabeel quraish messages biased against Islam are being answered back here on TH-cam. And things are interesting.
One is free to allow his brain to sieve information if not I wouldn't be here for additional understanding with out bias
Watched the whole video while in the restroom, waiting for the exact “ayat” of veriations, the only thing I heard this guy said this and that guy said that …..
Truth must really hurt. The Quran is corrupted.
@@TheCondescendingRedditorregurgitating doesn’t win arguments, this speaker has been dismantled already
@@DopexBoyFilms No, He has destroyed every so called "Muslim apologist" but I don't blame them. It's hard to defend a flawed religion written by a 5th century warlord lol and it was lost and they memorized by Randoms and then finally recorded. who knows what even happened
I am a Muslim and I subscribed for this truth
Wow, that's great. It's been five years since your comment. May we have an update on yourself?
@@travisanderson3920 He may have been executed.
@@jensandersen7011 sad because your not off with your assumption
Yeah ok Christians are so desperate to save a dying religion
@@jensandersen7011😂😂😂
Ibn masud said, uthman said, nothing muhamad said ,this guys aguement is dead on arrival, he is basically agueing on different pronounciations but no ommssion of whole verses and charpters just like the bible,he basically more confused.
Abdinasir Omar
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He can articulate sentences in English even if incorrectly spelt. Can you say anything in Arabic, dumb fuck?
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The point was people outside your world are bi- or multilingual, so no point being an ignorant critic.
As for Christianity, we Muslims respect Christians and always have done by law!
By law, I mean the Sharia of Islam.
This gentleman is mistaken on the Quran, the compilation of which was more sophisticated than he imagines.
Please don't think I know nothing about Christianity. The Quran teaches about what Christians believe and I went to a Christian school.. And my background is Hindu.
All the best.
Just for everyone's information, John 5:4 in Revised Standard Version is found in the "notes" which say: "Other ancient authorities, insert, wholly or in part, "waiting, for the moving of the water; for an angel of the Lord went down at certain seasons into the pool, and troubled the water; whoever stepped in first after the troubling of the water was healed of whatever disease he had." ESV fails the reader majorly by not keeping these notes intact. You will find the gospel in the ESV, but you won't find the scholarly input (in otherwords)
This is WHY there is Quran and Hadith. What was agreed upon went into Quran, what wasn’t went into qualification of Hadith.
The more complicated a thing sounds, the more lies can be hidden within.
Simplicity is the companion of truth.
And Jews and Muslims believe in true monotheism. Not a complicated trinity.
@@sheeshabedin1379 We also believe in one God, but God is not so easy to understand, comprehend, and fully know, because he is all almighty and OUT OF THIS WORLD. And I would say it's almost the same with Muhammed splitting the moon, while everything is calm and with us not dying.
And it's not our fault that Allah couldn't preserve his words (Torah and Injil) "as he does with the Quran". He wanted them to be corrupted by people so that Judaism and Christianity can begin existing hundreds of years BEFORE ISLAM. That means mostly he only wanted you Arabs to be saved, by preserving his word when he gave the right holy book in ARABIC to you Arabs(Muhammed). So it's not our fault that we became Jews and Christians, it's Allah's fault that he couldn't preserve his words FROM THE BEGINNING. Maybe the answer is that this is Allah's divine work to deceive or let people be deceived by his corrupted words right?
@@sheeshabedin1379 woh bruh that comeback was brutal xD
@@sheeshabedin1379 you believe that a illiterate murderer who was choked by a demo gave you your holy book--We will stick with Jesus and alot of Muslims are coming to the truth of Jesus.
@@cinesonicvibes LMAO and u think the bible was revealed in English?
An issue that is overlooked is not just a work of literature that is simply read. It is an oral recitation which is memorized by multiple people. Anyone who has listened to music understands the ability to easily memorize melodies and how one can memorize songs after only having heard them a few times.
What that means is that even though his description of the history of the written compilation of the Qur'an is correct it overlooks the fact that multiple people had memorized the recitation of the Qur'an by sound, not just by knowledge of it's content. There are two ways to memorize the Qur'an. I know the several chapters by sound and can easily point out when a mistake is made even though I lack the knowledge which the Arabic verse is depicting.
this argument falls short and is not evidence that the Qur'an is flawed and certainly falls short in proving the New Testament is more worthy of believing it is not corrupted
In the hadiths it says they forgot it, there are chaptors that are missing its a good argument but it falls short in light of the hadiths umar forgot
Lol have you played the telephone game? Just from only 4-5 people in chain of transmission the original words spoken are completely different. That's why muhammad said, as long as you don't mistake justice with mercy and mercy with justice it's okay. Here's the issue. If you have chains of transmission, over time the meaning switches so when the first person says a certain word, the 5th chain of transmission could easily be the opposite or differ from the main words that the first person said. Plus all the extra information found in the hadith that mr. white talks about in this video that are problematic...
Seriously man listen.. don't be blinded. Can still have your free choice to follow Islam but logically this blows my mind if you are to sweep this under the rug. And most people do than go and say the Bible is corrupt 😂 not saying you.
Ask your self why the muslims accept HAFS QURAN but not a single hadit from hafs is accepted.. all are Daif!!🤣😂🤣😂 but hes quran is just the best!!
Mayby you muslims actually, was the first in the world to burn the so called Holy quran, and all you are left with is the madness of Muhammad.
@@austincollard7589 we literally check each other and correct each other on our memorization today go to a mosque during taraweed during Ramadan by the end of Ramadan well have the entire Quran recited off straight memory. What makes you think that the Sahaba couldn’t have done it when they literally had the Prophet saw himself or at least lived during his time. Besides you can even look up numerical miracles the Quran makes if one of the verses were missing or added then it would all crumble
The Qur’an read out loud is 19 hours and 15 minutes. I only know that because you can buy an audio version of it.
Memorizing a 3 minute song is easy.
Memorizing a 20 hour story of nonsense, given to a child molester (Aishah) by an Angel is a pretty far fetched story.
Aren't there 10 different different qiraat (accents) in the Quran? If so, wouldn't that mean that certain words would be different but the meaning is still the same
One word.. different style to recite it.. same meaning.. learn from qari.. dont learn from this Liars .
@@MuhammadAbdillah111liar is you, arabic recitation changes meaning, so stop deceiving
Why human beings trying to ruin each other and their faith, instead focus to themselves to be better person
When Jesus come again He will truly reveal Himself in whole Glory and His Almighty nature and everyone in the world will know Who He Is :)
Sir ji the dead don't come back. New Saints and Phrophets will surely show up.
Yes, Jesus is believed to return, and you might wonder who He will recognize as His followers. Consider the following:
Muslims have beards and wear long thobes, similar to how Jesus dressed.
Muslim circumcise jsut like Jesus did.
Muslims pray with their heads on the ground, as Jesus did.
Muslim women wear hijabs and cover themselves, much like Mary, Jesus' mother.
These practices reflect a strong continuity with the traditions of Jesus and his time.
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I dont know why people are fighting in the name of religion ..you have bible, gospels, quran ,vedas, upanishads and lot more to investigate. Cant we maintain peace and respect each other and let others do their job
MD MUKHTAR ALAM u r rite bro. But thier r only muslims who push their religion to others...
MD MUKHTAR ALAM
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MD MUKHTAR ALAM where i come from muslims dont respect anyone there attacking the weak any chance they get , only any empty churchs they try to turn them into mosqes thats not respect we took them in gave them a home and food and they spit on the faces off our women and children , this is my story.
it's not fight, but rather A DEBATE of wich religion to be followed. No,we can't live in the peace like that.
FOR POLITICS is made of:communism,socialism,democracy,religion, marxism,arisotel theory, roman empire theory,theory of Anarchy, theory of ''full freedom of unmorallity'', theory of ''every man for himself(when you are allowed to have gun), theory of having gun but only to defend country, theory of if anyone steps your land kill him, THEORY OF MONARCHY,PRESIDENTY, FULL MONARH leadrship. Millitary rules ,Police rules, People rules,ONLY politic rules, politic and people rules.
WICH RULE TO APPLY AS THE BEST SOLUTION TO THE PEOPLE?
ISLAM. cause The Word of God never change.
16:16 "there's the *blowup* of the text" (laughter).
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James White best ever debate is the bible reliable don't miss it if you miss it is like you missed half of your life
Dr James, interesting talk, but I do disagree that many Muslim's don't know the history about the gathering of the Quran, you are trying soo hard to say that the Hafiz( people that memorized) the Quran were all dead before the gathering of the Quran, which is absolutely incorrect, all the companion's of the Profet was a Hafiz, is own Cousin Ali, loyal friends Abu Bakr, Uthman and Omar was Hafiz and still alive at that time. Islamic History will show your the reason for the collection of the Quran was due to Spoken Arabic language of that time and write Arabic of that time was not 100% the same, only them that got taught how to recite the Quran text written without the vowel knew how to read them, and having lost so many Hafiz at battle the collection was a must and their is no doubt about that. Dr James White, You Sir are a scholar in your faith so ask and work with real scholar specialized in this subject instead of asking a man of faith that is not specialized in this matter and claiming that all Muslim don't know anything about the Quran text collection.
Dr James White good speech but far from fully finished.
Understand the Islamic history and Arab culture of that time and the time after Profets dead, you will find clear evidence of so many Munafiqun(Hypocrite) tried to distort the written Quran at that time, even when the Profet was alive. Their are clear Quranic verses discussing about the Munafiqun, referring to them as more dangerous to Muslim than the worst non-Muslim enemies of Islam.
Thanks you for hearing me out best of luck with your research.
Cant believe that this went on. The fact that the muslims constantly talk about the bible being tampered with lol wowwww. Good job James white.
No, he only said there were heavy casualities and fear of losses. He never tried to say all had died...smh. He also did not say that ALL Muslims don't know, only that it is not common knowledge among Muslims.
I believe that is what he said--distortions, not the pure word. Likewise for Christian, there have been false teachers and heretics.
So if as you claim Muslims know about the changes and corruptions of the early Qurans, why do Muslims today claim that there is only one perfectly preserved Quran? And that when we all know we can buy more than 30 different Arabic Qurans today. Oh, and please do not insult our intelligence by referring to qiraats as we know that Uthman ordered that his Quran should only use the Quraishi dialect, so who invented all the other Qurans we can buy today?
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Poor u try to convince ur self that there are many versions of the quran hahaha
Understand before you write
Yes you can buy many versions (of translations) yes there is many english translation versions..... But only one arabic version is memorized and preserved
@@soohamdy8538 So you still believe in the fairy tale of the one perfectly preserved Quran???
And I refer to ARABIC Qurans not translations.
As the hafs Quran and warsh Quran are the most used Qurans they are the ones usually compared. You will find that number of verses in Hafs is 6236, while Warsh has only 6214 verses.
In Surah Al imran 3:146 in the hafs Quran it states “And many a prophet fought” and in the warsh Quran it states “And many a prophet was killed”.
In verse 2:184, the Hafs Quran reads the verse to be "... a ransom [as substitute] of feeding a poor person...". On the other hand, the Warsh Quran reads it "... a ransom [as substitute] of feeding poor people..."
Logically prophets being killed is not the same as prophets fighting and feeding one is different from feeding many. Clearly we have two different Qurans here which proves that the Qurans (plural) have not been perfectly preserved.
Differences between hafs and warsh Quran.
www.free-minds.org/sites/default/files/WhichQuran.pdf
Are there variations in chapter #10? Because that is the sign of Jonah.🐐💔🐐
Just want to throw a question out there to see which answers are given.
Who wrote the Koran?
I am a new revert and i am aware there are 4 schools in islam but this is seen as stuff for those deep in understanding but my answer would be the last prophet, Mohammed, Peace and blessing be upon him and the Lords angels.
Can anyone provide me a link to what Dr white was referencing @ 6:42 I looked up SAHIH BUKHARI volume 5 pages 509-510, but I'm reading no such thing.
I was hindu from india i have seen jesus sitted in heaven all the angels worship him he lives in glorious light nothing is comparable to him in heaven and earth thank you jesus for saving my life from hellforever
Ok add Jesus now to your 3000000 plus Gods, what a party 🥳
What the fuck you mean with you saw jesus ?
@@yurimarkov1622 There is only one God and Jesus saved my life with a miracle, Jesus loves you too
😂😂😂 in your bible says no one can see god.. how come you saw jesus? So jesus is not God then.. 😂😂😂
@@MuhammadAbdillah111 Then you dont know the bible, read it all and it will make sense to you, because you dont know the trinity neither, and what you have just told me, that shows that you took 1 scripture out from the bible and you judge the whole bible by only 1 scripture, and many people do that and its a sin too so be aware, lot of people say lot of things against the bible from a not examined and not experienced and not known view point, and from a worldly view point, examine it first and it will make sense to you, thank you, God loves you!
i have the original aramaic (not arabic) ,hebrew and greek version it is on microfilm...... the original is in all 3 languages written together in order to compete it. when the KJV 1611 version was written, it was done so with an apology for any mistakes that may have happened during it's translation due to HASTE.
ElectricAngel19 the Aramaic Quran is not the original language of the Quran. Arabic is. The Aramaic Quran is merely a translation.
good to know but i wasn't talking about the quran
As long as i know, persons who could memorize Qur'an not called qurah, but hafidz.
God never changes his mind, according to people who never change their minds about god.
skaruts
Yes.
Hebrew books and scriptures shows exactly whst you said
you're right, one in a million gets this correct, lets see if you can handle the truth/emet www.yadayah.com
There is only one god, the one who talked to Moses about humiliating the gods of Egypt.
WHEN ARE PEOPLE GOING TO GET SMART AND REALIZE THERE IS NO GOD IN THE OLD DAYS WHEN NO ONE WENT BEYOND THE STARS IT WAS UNDERSTANDABLE BUT NOT NOW WE HAVE SENT MEN OUT INTO SPACE.
Get smart, realize you hit the CapsLock key.
At 7:22, Sahih Bukhari volume 5:
Umar, Battle of Yomama, one person
sunnah.com/urn/43560
At 9:00, Hudaifa Sham Iraq differences Uthman Hafsa, be burned
sunnah.com/bukhari/66/9
At 10:59, Ibn Abi Dawud, Kitab al Masahif - missing parts
(Also see Ibn Umar, As Suyuti, Al-Itqan fi Ulum al Quran, part 3 p72)
At 11:25, Apology of Al Kindy - variants
At 12:32, Ismail Ibn Ibrahim - what has survived
At 13:30, Surah 3:158 variant - surely gathered those who die, Paris manuscript (not gathered) see
corpuscoranicum.de/handschriften/index/sure/3/vers/158?handschrift=13
ولئن متم او قتلتم لا الى الله تحشرون Paris
ولئن متم او قتلتم لالى الله تحشرون Standard
(At 15:44,) Surah 17:93 Abdul Razak "house of ornaments", Ibn Masud "house of Gold",
see archive.org/details/in.ernet.dli.2015.76212/n70
p55 71/630
(At 16:56,) Surah 2:222 Fogg's Palimpsest Manuscript (Saana), Ibn Masud
At 19:00, Sufian al Fawri Tafsir lists 67 variants
At 19:36, Topkapi Variants 2007
(Also see Sahih Muslim 2286, Sahih Bukhari 6.61.527, 6.61.521, Ibn Sa'd Kitab al-Tabaqat al-Kabir vol 2 p444, Jami at Tirmidhi 3104, Sunan Ibn Majah 1944, )
The prophet is closer to the believers than their own selves, and his wives are their mothers *and he IS a "father" to them (sura 33:6, Ubayy ibn Ka'b version p156 or 172/630 )
امهاتهم... وهو اب لهم
هو ابهم
"muhammad IS NOT a "father" of any of your men" (sura 33:40, Ibn Masud version
archive.org/details/in.ernet.dli.2015.76212/n90
p75 91/630
v6 امهاته
v40 لكن نبيا ختم - لكن رسول الله وخاتم
Hafs Q2:271 He will remove, yukafir
Doori Q2:270 We will remove, nukafir
Hafs Q2:10 they lie, yakthibun
Doori Q2:9 they accuse others of lying, yukadthibun
Hafs Q6:116 Word, kalima
Doori Q6:115 words, kalmat
Hafs Q9:66 we pardon - naafu, we punish - nuadhib (active)
Doori Q9:65 were pardoned - yuaffa, get punished - tuadhab (passive)
Hafs Q43:24 he said - qala
Doori Q43:23 say - qul
As a practicing Christian I can tell you this is a continuous issue within our community where lectures are given but there's no one on the other side who could challenge our opinion to prove that we are telling the truth are we are correct yet they go to these lectures and stand there alone on stage and make all these allegations and assumptions and yet there's nobody to dispute those at least challenge them to prove our attentive city whereas the Muslim lecturers do that. they open theirselves up to debate and can prove that there book is from God and invite debate. Anything this elektra is saying can easily be disputed and prove incorrectly by a Muslim lectora yet he doesn't give him the chance to do that instead comes along make these allegations and his options and we as the audience believe that hes telling the truth but we don't know really do we
Well I often get banned while talking on Islam.. banned right now on Facebook for the 21th time 😂
Thank you for bringing that up! Pattern FB: a few days on then FB 30 days off now 5 times... "illegals" M's J's I! all... EVIL EVIL EVIL so much for Refugees, overstay VISAS and EVIL EVIL vs the United States of American as One Nation Under GOD. PS Slick Willie II in 2000 declared "no can find American workers" so SWII ran to Thank GOD Dead finally Traitor Ted... who got his BILLIINAIRE TREASONOUS SENATORs to donate millions of US JOBS students, grads and their parents down the line.. Never ask why we have stolen ID's! Each year...we have half the l0 million who enter the USA remain...and right now due to our elected POLITICAL LIFWHORES...stealing from millions as if they are owed... the ills are being released inio our population DISEASED...mentally ill, dragging their sick right here to die and blame while infecting our Border Patrol entire families...
Thank you... I think I stated my position prior... 2 days on then 30 days off for this year 5 times... OAN has a new one..but I trouble getting on it. BEST I do nothing or get fired and...need to deal with local gov corruption, to county, to State to the Lib Combo of Fraudulent Conservative REPUGS...cowards have bowed to the left...but all end up millioinaires... HELLLL overfloweth..
interesting perspective, and great delivery I just had to give the video a like, it deserves it. However the claim that very few muslims know this is not true. you can test this out by asking any muslim you knw about how the Quran was compiled, did mohammed compile the quran, or the legacy of caliph abubakr. its nt some new discovery, its something very widely known. even in kids books it there, atleast iv seen it in a few books for kids used in schools.
it is always an awe to an outsider of a religion when they discover something new about said religion :)
However, the power of any religion is how to make its story swallowable and livable. you know but it doesn't disturb you.
Scientology
Christianity
Islam etc.
An outisder will always be like "whoa". the inside will always be like "yes true, but the thing is ..."
you didn't listen to video didn't you?
Interesting ? Great delivery ? So you agree that the perfect preservation is not true ?
There's One Major difference in Christianity:
He Is The Holy Spirit Truth of The Holy God; Whom does not exist or dwell in any cult/ religions.
God's Holiness & Righteousness are the most important to understand.
Without The Holy Spirit of God; you cannot discern the truth or fallacies of any cult/religion.
🕊️✝️🕯️
Bible teaches us to love one another. It teaches us to love even our enemies.
Chhuangi Khawlhring Qur'an teaches us the same. It teaches us to give testimony that I'sa (Jesus) were god's prophet too. And that your book was also revealed by God. It asks us to respect I'sa. Where are you now in this?
THE ONLY WAY WE CAN LOVE OUR ENEMIES IS TO SEE THEM AS TOOLS IN GODS HAND. THIS HAND PUTS CHALLENGES IN OUR WAY SO THAT WELL LEARN TO CONQUER THE CHALLENGES & THUS MOVE UP THE LADDER OF SALVATION
same for koran but for gods and prophets it s not the same story
Same as Quran.
*Quran 25:63*
_And the servants of the Most Merciful are those who walk upon the earth easily, and when the ignorant address them [harshly], they say [words of] peace,_
This comment and Reply is not as chaos as the top ones
Its right we should share love not hate
Assalamualaikum, From A Peacefull Muslim.
Dream - Roblox & More but there is a verse in quran which says you shouldnt be friends with christians or jews or atheists can you explain this too me please
There are no "versions" of the Holy Qur'an. There are however, many difert translations. There is a distinct different "translation" (choice of words) & version.
interesting but the new testament had the same thing, it was done by the council of niceae under the orders of constantine. it has been after this that many different translations and interpretations have happened.
in the new testament it has the story of Jesus in the Garden of Remembrance and he is o his own talking to God.... so who recorded this to write it in the bible if there was no on else there? for example.
and the old testament had the same thing...and more than once... not just by constantines council of bishops, but also much before this by rabbis that obliterated their religion into some rabbinical poo. (for lack of a better word) where it once was priest it became rabbis with the talmud dictating their books.
like what happened to the book of Enoch? for example.
and what about the nag hammadi, are they just made up or what?
all religions have been corrupted by what the revelation calls the synagogue of satan.. (not only jews, but all religions).
You can find God within... afterall we are made in His image and our lives are a conversation with God.
God bless and namaste bro.
There were still many memorizers left after the battle of YAMAMA . Hafsah 'Quran was checked and rechecked against the original memorizers and A new copy was written with the dialectical marks . This was to ensure that NON ARAB Muslims who did not know the Arabic language don't read the Quran wrongly and pass down the wrong recitation and meaning to the following generations. Don't forget that all the 4 caliphs were huffaz(memorizers of the Quran) from the time of the Prophet Muhammad till their own death. Furthermore the Quran was being memorized since the time of the Prophet till this day.. We have about 11 Million Quranic memorizers today conservatively. We also have several verified authentic manuscripts that date back to the time of the Prophet.
I also memorize my favorite fiction novels
Please point us to your earliest manuscript that matches your current Quran. There are non that date back to the time of your supposed prophet
Yea right, 11 million Muslims memorized an entire Quran.
Not even one person, could memorized an entire Quran.
You people claim the most atrocious & senseless things.
This is why Satan wants the mind, so Satan can confuse & deceive.
God wants our hearts to fill The Holy Spirit of God's Truth; so that we cannot be deceived.
Jesus Is The Truth, The Way & The Life.
Without The Holy Spirit dwelling in you; you cannot claim to be worshipping The Holy God of Heaven & Earth.
✝️🕊️🙏
That is what makes Islam itself a miracle.... I would advise you guys to go to any of the mosques during the month of Ramadan evening tarawih prayers and watch this miracle personally.... Are u afraid to go and see?? Go to any tahfiz school in any part of the world and see this miracle in practice by 9-year-olds....Maybe that will convince you
James white is being paid millions to distort. the truth of Islam, just like David Wood and other Islamophobes.... Just stop the money.. and see what he says..... Read Bart Erhman.... your own biblical scholars.... and what Karen Armstrong has to say on the Quran.... your own people.....
👍😀 *One of my favorite variances in the Quranic texts is when the oldest written version ever discovered was found to say "72 grapes", and not "72 virgins". Imagine dying a horrible painful death as an isis fighter, thinking you have 72 virgins waiting for you, when the oldest text actually says GRAPES. 😂 Bahaha* 😆
You ARE WRONG!!!! IT IS CLEAR IT IS 72 Sturgeon. Fish not grapes, well maybe some grapes in the fish mouth.
She Who Knows All : There is no versions in the Qur'an. The Qur'an is the same since it was revealed to the prophet Muhammad peace upon him.
The Christians bible have over 2000 versions. Because it is not the WORD of God.
No where in the entire Qur'an the 72 virgins or 72 grapes.
Christianity is a ant Christ, Paganism cult founded by the Romans who had a Son of God cult. It is imitation of unclean spirits (DEVIL) belief. According to the bible itself.
(MARK 3:11) " And whenever the unclean spirits (DEVILS) beheld him (Jesus), they fell down before him and cried out, "You are the Son of God".
Give the reference, if you are truthfull
She Who Knows All
Answer me this contradictions:
1.Who incited David to count the fighting men of Israel?
(a) God did (2 Samuel 24: 1)
(b) Satan did (I Chronicles 2 1:1)
2.In that count how many fighting men were found in Israel?
(a) Eight hundred thousand (2 Samuel 24:9)
(b) One million, one hundred thousand (IChronicles 21:5)
3. How many fighting men were found in Judah?
(a) Five hundred thousand (2 Samuel 24:9)
(b) Four hundred and seventy thousand (I Chronicles 21:5)
4.God sent his prophet to threaten David with how many years of famine?
(a) Seven (2 Samuel 24:13)
(b) Three (I Chronicles 21:12)
5.How old was Ahaziah when he began to rule over Jerusalem?
(a) Twenty-two (2 Kings 8:26)
(b) Forty-two (2 Chronicles 22:2)
6.How old was Jehoiachin when he became king of Jerusalem?
(a) Eighteen (2 Kings 24:8)
(b) Eight (2 Chronicles 36:9)
The difficulty in reconciling the statement in 1 Chronicles 21:1, “Satan . . . moved David,” with that of 2 Samuel 24:1, “the Lord moved David,” is not problematic. All temptation is permitted by God, but not caused by God. When evil spirits tempt us, they do so by permission (Job 1:12, 2:6; Luke 22:31). Satan therefore provoked David to number the people, and God allowed him to do so. God allows those things which serve to advance His holy and perfect will.
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learly, Israel had already experienced three years of famine before David numbered the people of Israel and Judah-for reasons unrelated to the situation in question. 2 Samuel 24:1-7 record the initiation of the census, but we find in verse 8 that “"when they had gone through all the land, they came to Jerusalem at the end of nine months and twenty days."”
So according to the text, numbering the people was nearly a year-long process, and there is no clear indication that God had suspended the initial three-year famine prior to the events in chapter 24. Now if God had combined three additional years of famine (1 Chronicles 21:12) with the three years of initial famine, and a possible intervening year while the census was conducted, the resulting overall famine would have totaled about seven years (2 Samuel 24:13).
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Young Jehoshaphat and young Athaliah of Israel engage in an illicit affair for political reasons during the reign of Asa.
Jehoshaphat and Athaliah give birth to Ahaziah, perhaps out of wedlock.
Jehoshaphat and his true wife, a woman of Judah, give birth to Jehoram.
Jehoshaphat becomes king of Judah after Asa's death.
By virtue of his relationship to Athaliah, Jehoshaphat king of Judah is given some jurisdiction over Israel and is considered also "king of Israel".
Ahaziah, being Jehoshaphat's son, shares Jehoshaphat's limited jurisdiction over Israel and becomes co-regent of Israel with Ahab at age 22.
Despite being co-regent of Israel by virtue of his father Jehoshaphat's authority, Ahaziah cannot succeed the throne of Israel at Ahab's death because Ahab has his own sons.
Before Jehoshaphat died, he appointed his younger son Jehoram a pure prince of Judah to become king of Judah, bypassing Ahaziah's right to the throne.
Jehoshaphat dies.
Jehoram becomes king of Judah after Jehoshaphat's death.
Jehoram takes Athaliah as his wife.
Ahaziah legally becomes the son of Jehoram, despite being older than Jehoram.
Ahaziah becomes king of Judah at age 42 after Jehoram's death.
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Commentators on these verses explain that Jehoiachin was, in fact, crowned twice. Shortly after Jehoiachin’s father, Jehoiakim, began his reign, he (or the king of Egypt) crowned his eight-year-old son as heir to the throne, to ensure that Jehoiachin would become king after him.
Jehoiakim himself had to wrest the throne (with the help of the King of Egypt) from his younger brother, Jehoahaz. As a result, Jehoiakim wanted to ensure that his firstborn would be firmly ensconced on the throne before his own death.
When Jehoiachin was eighteen, Jehoiakim died and Jehoiachin in fact took the throne.
The Quran consists of 114 Suras that are assembled by verses that number from 4 to 286. According to the tradition the suras are based on the words of Muhamad in 23 years. During his life Mohamed has changed several suras, revoked them and many have been lost or shortened. The writer Ubay testifies - for example - that sura 33 (al-Ahzab) had 200 verses, but finally only 73 remained. Aisha, the favorite wife of the prophet, - for example - reported that she also lost some verses.
Shortly after the death of Muhamad his comrade Ibn Thabit (who was able to write) started to collect the different documents, but soon seven different versions existed. To avoid confusion the third Caliph Othman (Ruled 644 - 656) ordered Ibn Thabit and several helpers from the tribe of the Quraisch to produce an error free version of the words of Muhamad. This version was then sent to the four capitals of the Caliphate - Medina, Damaskus, Kufa and Basra. This book is called the „Othman Quran“, the only valid version according to traditional Islam. 114 suras with up to 286 verses per sura were told to Muhamad by the archangel Gabriel (according to the traditional belief), which he forwarded to his followers without error or omission. But this was not done in the form of a book, but orally as the tradition demanded. Over the years the followers memorised the suras but modified them during this process. Several official edits were then made in the years to follow. For example, Ubaydallah, the governor of Mesopotamiens, added 2000 Alif („a“) in his version of the Quran. This is interesting as in the Arab language the addition of one Alif might change the meaning of a word completely.
The hadiths of al-Buhari (died 870), Muslim (died 875), Ibn Madscha (died 886), Abu Dawud (died 888), Tirmidhi (died 892), and Nasa’i (died 915) were wirtten 150 to 250 years after the death of the prophet. these are extraction of the many millions of hadith that existed at that time. A certain al-Audscha confessed to have invented over 4 000 hadith, Abu Dawud, one of the prominent authors, stated to have taken only 4,800 from over 500,000 hadith that he collected (“that appeared authentic, or almost”), Al-Buhari, the most prominent hadith-editor, accepted only 7,400 of over 600,000 hadith. The Shias have five collections of hadiths that differ.
While there is no original version of the Othman Quran, it is believed that the current version - the edit of Cairo from the year 1924 - is only very roughly based on Quran version that were finalised around the year 900. The base for the Quran of Cairo is a Quran version of 1886 that was editied using old Arab grammar rules defined by al-Sigistani (died 928) and the Spanish expert al-Dani (died 1053). No old writings were used in this process. The problem here is that the language of Mekka was very much different that the traditional Arab that was spoken by the later editors and they actually had to translate the original text. Many words were unknown then and writing errors contributed to a bigger alteration from the original talks of Muhamad. This lead to the fact that many of the words used had to be interpreted (and then re-entered the Arabic language under their new meaning), due to the many differences in the language the pure version of the Quran is not readable for even an Arab without comments. But even the commentors like at-Tabari (838-923 n. Chr.) had to admit that they had to guess the meaning of several passages. Additional confusion is caused by the ranking of the suras according to their length and not their context increases the difficulty of the interpretation, many are taken out of context. All Quran fragments before the version of the 10th century (Sanaa and Istambul versions especially) have a complete different structure of the suras. Experts, that also know Aramaean dialects (which relates more to the basic religious texts of that time than modern Arab), reckon that about 25% are wrongly interpreted in modern versions.
It might - therefore - make sense to have a look at older versions of the Quran. Especially the version of Sanaa might be interesting as it is the oldest version that exists (except maybe for a secret version in Rome or Istambul). The differences will be startling.
But is this important? Actually not. Muslims believe that Allah's influence will have influenced the flow of events and interpretations that the existing mainstream books still reflect the pure Quran. Differences vs. old versions were supposedly important as other people might have needed to encounter another Quran in another time - as it might have been the wish of Allah. With this pragmatic approach the critique of Dr. James White and other historians becomes far less relevant only two alternatives emerge for the faithful Muslim:
A. I have been following a stupid scheme by humans and wasted my faith for nothing, or
B. I have been following a divine scheme by Allah and invested my faith to enter paradise.
Any normal human would know which alternative he/she would need to believe; everything else would drive him/her crazy. And this is maybe a reason why modern Salafism is so successful; it serves as a shield against modern science and society that more and more exposes the shortcomings of ancient beliefs.
What a mess!
That is Islamic propaganda. The textual history of the Quran is similar to the Bible and far from what the Prophet recited. See: www.answering-islam.org/Books/Jeffery/thq.htm
The first mention of Christianity in Arabia occurs in the New Testament as the Apostle Paul refers to his journey in Arabia following his conversion {Galatians 1: 15-17}. Later, Eusebius of Caesarea discusses a bishop name Beryllus in the sea of Bostra, the site of a synod c. 240 and two Council's of Arabia.*One in 246 a.d. and other in 247. Both before Council of Nicea 325 a.d.
both were held against Beryllus, the local bishop, and his followers, who believed that the soul perished upon the death of the body, but that it would one day rise with the body.
hahahaha had good laugh he is fucking lying oh m god
Into 7 minutes and nothing good
I beg to differ with this man on one issue. I had one of those Bibles which give you the original words litterally translated
from the original text right under a modern text version of your choice. The original text, is some cases is so not understandable that you are very hard pressed to see how they translated it in the way it is written in the modern version.
I don't know what these Bibles are called, but the only way for you to see what I mean is for you to get one for yourself and read at least most of the New Testament.
But shortly after 11:55 he states that the Curan has been interpreted by a government and several times re-written and older versions destroyed so as to keep anyone from checking the authenticity of the newer versions.
Then he goes on to say this has not happened with the Christian Bible.
WRONG
When the Christian Bible was first printed in English, it was done so by the Catholic church which was a government at that time.
Dr. James says the New Testament has never been edited. But what about the testaments that talk about Maria Magdalena being the girlfriend of Jesus or other gospels that have been omitted from the biblical canon? Isn't that editing in a way as well?
You mama it is yamama
Indirect insult because everyone was laughing, but he told everyone to listen without distractions, warning the listeners not to get easily distracted and bored about the manuscripts and the people of the Koran
Suba 34, 44:45 Ishmael was not the forefather of Mohammad, Mohammad came from a Quraysh tribe in Yemen and not from Ishmaelites in Paran. Ishmaelites were not the fathers if the Quraish tribe. Ishmaelites were not the fathers of Arabs// instead(Hebrew) Ishmaelites were not the Ancestors of the Prophet Mohammad. Like I said salvation comes from the Jew's and not the Zionism (Hebrew Jewish) Abraham Issac Jacob Ishmael. Praise God for his wisdom, truth and Knowledge. Amen!!! Yeshua Ha'mashiach. (Lord Jesus Christ)
Micke Toohey .what Jews and Arab are different. Arab are the descendants of Ismael
Julie Benjamen 👌 Mohammads family was from a Sabaean Yemeni family and are not connected to any Ishmaelites tribe because Mohammad family did not leave Yemen until the 5th century AD, and that was 1000 years after the Ishmaelites who lived in the deserts of the fertile crescent become extinct or disappeard and many centuries before Mohammed's family left Yemen. Now Ismael or his Decedents never migrated to Saudi Arabia or Mecca in his lifetime and God's word proves to those who seek his word for truth Genisis 25:17-18 Ismael died when he was 137years old, he had 12 Sons that were princes, and the descendents of Ishmael lived in the territory between Havilah and Shur, to the east of Egypt on the way to Assyiria. They lived apart from the decedents of Abraham, meaning that Genisis 25:18 is proof the tribe of Ishmael did not migrate to Saudi arabia or Yemen, and When Abraham was buried by his two Sons Issac and Ishmael they buried him in Israel, they did not travel or migrate to Saudi Arabia they lived in the Region from Egypt Assyria and Mesopotamia. And the Ishmaelites received no Spiritual call from God except for his twelve Sons. The anointed Holy Spirit teaches us only truth, Glory, Honour and Praise to Yeshua Ha'mashiach and Alright God in the Highest. Amen!!! 🙏🙌⛪
Actually the reality is this: Arabic is not like English, it has annotations which change the meanings. An Arabic person of that time does not need the annotation to know the meaning, he just knows the correct word. These annotations were not known to the rapidly expanding Muslim populations with many ethnicity and languages. And so they started producing variations.
In order to revert to a standard, Caliph Uthman reproduced the text compiled shortly after the death of prophet Mohammad (which is the best version, and closest that was available). Unlike other sacred texts, it was compiled not a 100 or 1000 years later but rather less than 5 years. The accuracy is further strengthened by confirmation on the the correct version by multiple sources and by the writing of the scribes during Prophet Mohammed's time. And yes, Uthman had to get it right because otherwise he can not remain Caliph.
The above fact was conveniently left out in the argument of Dr. James.
Another fact: most Muslims know that Caliph Uthman compiled the universal version read today because it can be read correctly and understood by a non arabic person like me.
So Dr. James is statistically wrong about the 99.whatever %
Omar Niaz Amen bro.
Amen to that.
John michael.... what are saying it makes sense 2018 years ago.
Now who's going to follow you...??! holding hands and shit.
Please don't bring your offering packets....or ask me for donations.
Omar: Than is not a book for all people.... The world don't speak Arabic dumb nut.
and so are omissions...as a coverup vs INFIDELS!
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James was defeated here!
Osman meant to reduce/remove as many variants as possible and he did that. It is not surprising or controversial that Muslims likely continued to follow his path over the coming century or so to remove all other variants because they knew Osman did the best he could to gather Quran from Hafza (the keeper of the original copy since Abu Bakar's time) and the by having the Huffaaz (those who memorized the Quran by heart) narrate it to the team that compiled the whole Quran. Now you can doubt that Osman did not have the original or modified it but history tells us there were multiple sources of the Quran (Hafza's version and Huffaaz) who had to have come to agreement for this authentic copy to have been compiled. There is no evidence of a massacre to wipe out the Huffaaz or wipe out the original copy of Hafza but rest were wiped because there was no general consensus for those copies and there would have been no end to versions and edits. This was probably done to just avoid this discussion that you are having now and had Osman not done this, there would have been no (at least no easy) way for Osman's most authentic version to be identified correctly
I like how people try to convince other faiths and others that their god is better and others people god don’t exist
Jesus is also ALLAH'S beliver &he is a muslim beyond that momin beyond that he is a prophet HAZRATH PROPHET ISA (JESUS ) ALAISSALAAM..
Every Aayah (Meaningful Divine Statement, a.k.a. verse) of the Qur'aan was surely written during the time of Prophet Mohammad. When the Prophet's Companions agreed on compiling the Qur'aan right after the Prophet's demise (during the time of Caliph, abu Bakr), they put strict conditions in their compilation of the Qur'aan. Such condition were as follows:
1) Every Aayah must be written during the time of the Prophet,
2) at least 4 witness must have memorized every Aayah and step forward to cast their testimonies as to every Aayah 's authenticity, and
3) what's been memorized of every Aayah must agree with what's already been written during the time of -- and supervised by -- Prophet Mohammad.
Any and supervised that did not meet all of the aforementioned conditions was not even considered as a Prophetic Tradition (Hadith), since none testified that it was a Hadith. Such am Aayah in such a stance was left as a Qur'aan only for the companion who claimed it to be, but not for all Muslims.
That being said, the compilation of the Qur'aan -- not only it was written down during the time of Prophet Mohammad, under his supervision -- it was also multiply transmitted orally by 4 witnesses and/or more who were not known of being liars.
So, the talking head in the video who's spewing doubts about the Qur'aan needs to put a socket in it. His example is like a she-camel that gave birth to a mouse. His arguments considering the Qur'aan are fallacious and baseless.
Hi, my dear Dr. James White, you never mentioned about before 2000 AD where was Christanty was born, was Bible written and published then before 2000 AD
I don't know this guy's credentials as a scholar, but the New Testament WAS edited: It came in the form of scribes (who copied the available texts long before Gutenberg) that made changes to the texts they copied for a variety of reasons. Sometimes changes were logistical: Make the text fit the scroll of papyrus on which it is being copied. Sometimes the changes were editorial: Improve the narrative, vis a vis the scribe who was doing the copying (read: I think I can improve the story here, let me just add this little part). Sometimes, Church authorities purged texts to propagate theological views (Google/read Elaine Pagels). So, I don't dismiss his central thesis - actually, the historical formations of texts seems to be quite universal: As a religion grows and codifies itself (for whatever reason - think of the Jewish religion after the destruction of the Temple), there is a lot at stake to promote whatever view will help the faith grow and survive. This is not bad; the believers were just that. Their intentions were the absolute best.
Just Waste my time.
Azman Mohd Yacob why
Yeah You're Right
Azman Mohd Yacob you’re right
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Azman Mohd Yacob I'am Christian in Indonesian (the large muslims population) christianity is growing in my country. Tuhan Yesus Berkati
Not quite convinced
1:38 what does he do with his hand...?
Satanic sign. Akhi hes influenced by satan he doesn't even know he did it.
Interesting -I'm not surprised , since all religions culled from the final text(s), the memorized oral traditions , and interpretations of variations on a theme ,deemed politically problematic ,or contradictory of views accepted by the majority of the faithful, at the time of release of the final edited form, in order to consolidate and propagate the faith to lands, and peoples not yet proselytized to . An example from the Cristian tradition would be the Gnostic Gospels , which wold be unheard of ,if not discovered by happenstance , by a layman wandering into caves near Nag Hammadi Egypt , in 1945. A portion of the text was used as fire wood by the m of the discoverer.
could you show me anywhere in the bible jesus is saying i am the god or everyone should worship me?
Uchiha Shisui Brother i believe bible is the saying of Esha peace be upon him(jesus) quoted by his companion's. And they never worshipped him but they follow his faith ie, the creator the almighty , after his death they never wore a cross never made a idol of him. This made me to think. From where it comes? And what about the prophets before Jesus? Do you worship them also??
shanu s John 1
oh wait...here's the right one:
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+Uchiha Shisui & shanu s
"I have seen in the comments, people are saying that islam is a terrorist religion and Mohammed is the founder and he spread islam by sword."
This is from an Islamic Apologist website: ten selected "prophecies" of Muhammed.
1) "Prophet Muhammad foretold the precise spot every pagan Meccan soldier would fall" (by the sword.... by the way)
2) Prophet Muhammad prophesized the Battle of the Confederates (al-Ahzab) would be the last invasion the tribe of Quraish (the pagan Meccans) would launch against the Muslims. It was fought in the fifth year of migration, 626 CE and was the last military conflict between the two sides. All Meccans embraced Islam after a few years.
(oh I wonder why that would be....?)
3) There are two prophecies in one: Fatima will outlive her father; Fatima will be the first member of his household to die after him.
(calling it a prophecy that a teenager might just outlive her aged father is a stretch, but .... )
4) Prophet Muhammad prophesized Jerusalem would be conquered after his death. (by the sword)
5) Prophet Muhammad prophesized the conquest of Persia. (by the sword)
6) Prophet Muhammad prophesized the conquest of Egypt (by the sword)
7) Prophet foretold confrontation with the Turks (with the sword)
8) Prophet foretold the first maritime battle to be undertaken by Muslims would be witnessed by Umm Haram, the first woman to participate in a naval expedition. He also prophesied the first assault on Constantinople.
(they probably had swords, but interestingly enough, he "fulfilled" this one, by bringing her along on his naval expedition, which is a bit like me prophesying that my daughter will have chocolate tomorrow and then buying her some chocolate)
9) The prophecy that Rome, Persia, and Yemen will be conquered was made during the Battle of Confederates (by the sword)
10) Prophet Muhammad prophesized an imposter claiming to speak in the name of God would be killed at the hands of a righteous man in Muhammad’s lifetime.
(So basically if ANYONE after Muhammed claims to be a prophet, this is a sure fire way to set them up for a fall and anyone who kills them as "righteous". In reality, it was all infighting and power struggle for control. In any case, he died.... by the sword)
So out of around 160 prophesies these are the ten examples CHOSEN - I didn't choose them - only ONE of them is a potentially non-violent (although there is a violent version of the story). 8 out of 10 are directly about battle - 6 of those are directly about conquest and 1 of them is about someone being killed for claiming to speak in the name of God during Muhammeds lifetime (which can both be arranged and would automatically have incurred a death penalty if even one person did it or was understood to have done it). Out of the 160 also the vast majority are regarding the conflicts and conquests of Islam with other nations or infighting. Immediately after Muhammeds death, the infighting began and continued for centuries afterward as did the conquests. Islam had nothing less than the "conquest" of the whole known world on the agenda.
This is the very foundation of Islam and the prophet spoke almost of nothing else but war - it is absolutely beyond dispute. So the very first "Muslim"s were about anything but "surrender". When Muslim apologists try to poke holes in the Old and New testaments, it is ridiculous because they are simply poking holes in texts which they also claim their religion is built upon, excepting that theirs are supposedly "pure" adaptations for the text of the Quran 600 years later. Muslims are even happier to point out that there Quran agrees quite heavily in places with "rediscovered" gnostic texts, seemingly oblivious to the fact this simply identifies the Quran more positively as a derived syncretic religious text combining only the elements of the Torah and vague agreement with selected prophets of the Tanakh and a new revision of Jesus life and teachings which aligns with the theology of the author of the Quran to forge yet another new religion which is neither Judaism, nor Christian yet contains elements of both.
I the First and End.I am God
"Religion began when the first scoundrel met the first fool."
Voltaire
😂
What have you shown?
I have just watched you talking!
Why did you not put what you supposedly found on TH-cam screen so we could also see?
04:09 How's the Quran different to the bible given that the Emperor Constantine oversaw what stories went into the bible when Christianity became the state religion of the Roman Empire?
I'm not a Christian, but I have to tell you that there is no proof that "Constantine oversaw what stories went into the Bible". It is a sort of a modern myth. However, Constantine did request that fifty Bibles be prepared. Look up "fifty Bibles of Constantine" if you're interested. Constantine asked that more legible, portable Bibles be made but you will find no evidence that he commented on what stories the Bible should or shouldn't contain.
I am a Non Believer, however, I have studied Abrahamic Faiths for more than 10 years. My Arabic is almost Fluent, I read Hebrew, I did Greek and Latin at School. I am indifferent to any and all religions. Historically, the team that Othman assembled was under the auspicious supervision of Zayd bin Thabit, the Chief Scribe of Mohammed. Additionally, there were Ali ibn Abi Talib, `Uthman ibn `Affan, `Amr ibn Al-`As, Mu'awiyah ibn Abi Sufyan, Shurahbil ibn Hasanah, `Abdullah ibn Sa'd ibn Abi Sarh, Al-Mughirah ibn Shu'bah, Ma'adh ibn Jabal, Hanzalah ibn Al-Rabi`, Ubay ibn Ka'b, Juhaym ibn Al-Salt, Husayn Al-Numayri, all of them were Hafizul Quran. Furthermore, during the month of Ramadhan, the entire Quran was recited, in portions, every night after the night prayers. Whether the Scripture is the Word of 'Allah' or not, may be questionable, whereas, the Quran is authentic and accurate as it was when assembled. Animus of Jews and Christians towards the Islamic Scripture / Faith is historical. Neither accepts Mohammed as a prophet nor the Quran as the Word of God. This man is the prime example of the Bible Bashing Miscreants. He is very cunning, conniving, bigot and zealot. Shame on him deceiving his audience, but then, most Clergy do it from the Pulpit..
Cornelius Dr Vanderbilt That fellow is IGNORANT OF THE HISTORY AND REALITIES OF ISLAM. HE SHOULD GET AN APPOINTMENT WITH ONE OF THE LEARNED MUSLIMS AND DISCUSS ABOUT IT.MEMORIZATION OF THE QURAN STARTED DURING THE LIFETIME OF THE PROPHET. WHATEVER HE SAYS ARE LIES AND LIES . QURAN WAS READ WITH DIFFERENT THYTHM AND WERE THE SAME WORDINGS. MAY ALLAH ENLIGHTEN YOU.
I wonder if you're still a nonbeliever with a study for over 10 years? Did you find that religion is being used to control people or to give the people the freedom to follow the right way of life and find true happiness?
Here comes a communist to support the mu....zzi
When you consume lies from Muslim scholars who use taquiya.Othman burnt the Mohamed Qur'an and brought up his own.And in 1924 Muslim scholars standardized Qur'an in Egypt,and adopted by Saudi Arabia,and that's the present Quran used presently.
There was also a part eaten by tame sheep,as reported by Aisha Some were also lost,some forgotten and some canceled,as admitted by various Muslim scholars.
@@Dunamis-_1.You are perfect example of a naive brainwashed Christian who believes anything about other religions as long as it's coming from a pastor or preacher . Neither do you know how it was compiled nor do you understand what were the circumstances at times . These preachers of devils will lead you to hell
Deceived people is also found in the Quran y'know!!!
Ayem Mikayo 3$$
Isn't this like either opening or closing the curtains in your luxury cabin on the Titanic?
Either way, it won't make a difference.
I'd like to ask the Muslims a question, premise: if the prophet Muhammad was a human being therefore fallible, Supposition: when the qu'ran was being written isn't highly possible he made mistakes or misinterpreted his 'visions' ?
But could it also could be possible that he was just a madman in a cave?
The people who died in the war after the death of muhammed have completely memorised the quran like people do today 👍
yea right ;) even your hadits tells us that didn't happened and many people died who memorised. You have no quran from muhammed, uthman burned all, and whats even baffling, uthman made 8 copies and you don't EVEN HAVE THOESE. You don't have nothing. Matter of fact we have 32 different arabic qurans today and they ALL differ from one another. So pleaseeee allah couldn't protect the quran 20 years yet alone for 1400. And even if we read the quran it self it states ''allah protects the quran, and even if ONE DOT is changed then you will know its NOT from god'' its amazing how God exposes things because look here. muahmmed was a false prophet and in that age muhammeds arabic didn't even use dots, but look at the arabic today. Its full of dots, and if you remove those dots it will be IMPOSSIBLE for you to read that arabic. So we see how the REAL GOD made an example of the FALSE PROPHET yet again. There are many many more things wich i won't go into now where the True God Jesus Christ exposes muhammed for what he was, A FALSE PROPHET FROM SATAN
Lol u blinded from the truth. Thousands of contradictions and errors in the new testament and u dare to criticise the Muslim and claim the Koran is so.
@@sandeepperhar5169 You are decived
Luke 6 12
One of those days Jesus went out to a mountainside to pray, and spent the night praying to God.
Jesus Christ is prophet of Allah
@@God1stProductions Keep worshipping dead man hanging on the cross ☠️☠️☠️
@@adamsmith586 Islam believes Jesus is coming back and will fight the anti Christ, you don't even know your religion ☠️, such a joke. Jesus is Lord.
So Uthman made copies of the existing Quran . He didn't make his new version. what's wrong with that.
Realmatic Schisms y burn them because 1400 years can lead to suspicion on the real Quran much like the bible and Dr James would be like aye look at this
i mean it kinda worked not really people know about this and to your opinion "alright..."
Yes the Quran revealed by seven different Arab dialects. So all the different are authentic and proved by the Prophet Mohammed (ﷺ)
Narrated `Umar bin Al-Khattab:
I heard Hisham bin Hakim bin Hizam reciting Surat-al-Furqan in a way different to that of mine. Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) had taught it to me (in a different way). So, I was about to quarrel with him (during the prayer) but I waited till he finished, then I tied his garment round his neck and seized him by it and brought him to Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) and said, "I have heard him reciting Surat-al-Furqan in a way different to the way you taught it to me." The Prophet (ﷺ) ordered me to release him and asked Hisham to recite it. When he recited it, Allah s Apostle said, "It was revealed in this way." He then asked me to recite it. When I recited it, he said, "It was revealed in this way. The Qur'an has been revealed in seven different ways, so recite it in the way that is easier for you."
Munir Eragubi yes. 👍
+Proud Ex Muslim Girl "Are you that stupid like Pedophile Muhammad?"
No that guy's smart like the Prophet Muhammad (saw). Or the engineer Muhammad. Or the scientist one. Or the doctor one. It's a very common name
Just because people died in the battle doesnt mean only those people had certain portions of quran memorised. What Umar was talking about was about the people who had memorised the quran completely. Even then hadith tells us that a few hafiz(full memorisers) survived the battle and they contributed to the collection of the quran afterwards.
Even then the quran was fact checked both with oral recitation and written scripture. Quran suras were scattered around the land in written parchments which were done at the time of the prophet.
Full quran was done in 1st year after Muhammad died by a person who was Muhammad's own secretary and Muhammad would tell him where to place verses and in what order and he would learn from him complete recitation of the quran, since we know the quran was revealed in portions, verses and sometimes full chapters which were not necessarily in order but Muhammad got guidance of their proper order after the fact.
Muhammad's secretary Zayd ibn Thabit was the best person who knew the quran after Muhammad. He used his own knowledge but to be even more sure he told everyone in the land to present their recordings with written parchments and them reciting the verses. He would fact check their pronounciation and every letter and then compile the quran.
Uthman didn't make up a quran like White says. Literally Uthman with the help of Zayd which honestly did the work for him, literally fact checked every copy of the quran around and got the best version Muhammad ordered by the time he died.
Also pretty ironic for a christian to say Uthman 'edited' the quran when literally the whole bible is different scholars writings. Not a single person, uthman or zayd even wrote a single letter to the quran and shipped it as Quran.
There was no bible when Jesus left. Literally no bible. Just his sayings that people memorised that later on these writers would quote and then add other verses which Jesus never spoke.
The changes you try to mention as different in quran are literally different accents of arabic, that Muhammad himself would recite so that every tribe in arabia would fully grasp the scripture. These accents were taught to him by angel Gabriel himself and everyone knows that and its an authentic knowledge of Islam.
Which is right color, or colour? Aluminium or Aloominum
Literally all these 7 different version of the Quran are like this. They have the same content but different pronounciation and all are correct since all of them were recited by the Prophet. Neither one removes or adds new letters or words.
The reason muslims ridicule bible versions because they really are versions. You can read the same verse in so many different ways. Its not just how you pronounce a word, a whole sentence can be changed. Though the meaning is still the same, that is a problem. Even then you have a translation, of a book written in greek. Even Greek itself wouldnt perfectly describe aramaic that Jesus spoke, so you already lost at preserving scripture, considering Jesus spoke it and wasnt written by other people which is not the case. So you also have that problem.
Also claiming Uthman's collection is not preserved is an ignorant statement. Go to the british museum and then get a quran. It will read the same, the full chapter that they have in the museum. You won't find a footnote that says there is a variant because Muslims already know that that variant is not the correct one. Just becuase you find variant copies, that doesn't mean its the true quran. Uthman used the best hafiz and Muhammad's secretary to compile the quran. Other parchments were writings of laymen.
The fact that christians have footnotes that say this part has a different meaning, etc shows that they are not confident on what is the true version and what is fabricated so they show it out there in the hopes that maybe in the future they could find more codexes to try to solve that problem. No problem with that, but you can't use that argument to say Quran is wrong.
Uthman destroyed other versions because he was confident he had the best Quran.
Ur last line prooves that because of one mans overconfidence ur entire quran's authenticity got shattered.
cope harder also no one really read big ass para
when i read a marketing title of a video
i give up at once
Love God
I am not Muslim but my major is history of religion and I took 3rd year of Islam course. The professor told about the history if Koran and he mentioned Koran cannot be the words exact written from Prophet Muhammad but it is the collection of the texts over a century during Islamic empire. If we read the text we usually find the information of laws and codes in specific matters, not many philosophical wisdom. This text is collection of more political writings then spiritual experience writings.
Watch islam vid facts “Kennedy Report - Sons of Abraham”.
Your "professor" must have hit his head. 🤣🤣
@@Sid0404 Wow, you don't even accept Muslim Scholar Professors !!!
What's wrong with your head, too much truth exposed?!!!
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@@natlee5051your copium is off the charts
Regardless . . .
IF the Koran, throughout their variations, consistently say to "kill the infidels", what difference do these minor variations provide make for relief ?
One thing that puzzles me, with all this continuous government control, and with seven _government authorized_ copies sent to _seven provinces_ , surely there would still be an extant copy _somewhere_ . After all, this was the most holy book in the universe! This was Allah's very word, would it not have been protected and revered, at least like the American Independence documents? Those are 246 years-old, not nearly as old as the Quran is supposed to be, for sure, but still.
Good video, thanks!
Hear me out. There is convincing evidence that the quran hasn’t been tampered with for at least 300 years, so then why the hell was it able to refer to new scientific discoveries of a less than a few decades ago. Also the morals and teachings in the Quran are far more inline with human nature than any other religion. I feel like 2000 years later we can’t figure out any exact history from the scraps of info we have but we can judge for ourselves what’s right.
@@007euroburbed Okay, I heard you out and I have a few responses.
1. My comment wasn't about tampering, but asking why, with all this governmental, bureaucratic control, just _one_ of the original copies of the Uthmanic Qurans couldn't be preserved.
2. What "new scientific discoveries" would that be? I have heard many, if not all of them, and they all fall apart under scrutiny.
3. "the morals and teachings in the Quran are far more inline with human nature than any other religion"? I would agree in one sense, that the teachings of Islam DO FEED and encourage the natural, base, _sinful_ side of human nature, but that is precisely what Jesus Christ came to _save us from_ , not to encourage.
How many have the old testament? how many of you follow it ? lol
Carls good eye only a certain, very small, sect of Jews, who claim to not be jews
Carls good eye are you serious haha do you know who Jesus is and what he did
THEBackpack 10
Never heard of em. Do tell.
Carls good eye the old law was fulfilled through the prophecy of the messiah emanuel( God with us) who is Jesus Christ
Grow up. If you truly believe... Follow the old testament. Its the .0 Its a great book of rules. How can you believe in a god and not follow the his original book of rules? Isn't changing it going against "His word" ? Bet it translate well in to modern THINKING.
My faith is deeply rooted on the ( Kjv) I can certainly attest 2 "YESHUA" DIVINE LIVING POWER"
~thy BLESSINGS~ >Matthew 5< 🌼🌼🌼BEATITUDES🌼🌼🌼
Maria Hinderscheid its yahweh
YAHWEH...means.. "GOD"...
YESHUA..is the Devine son.The one christians call (Jesus).....
Uvhiha Shisui.(Taqiyya.)
Stand behind Yeshua;you Satan!😀
Uchiha Shisui
Ignorant are those who beg for harsh words...
The Father is Salvation To Come: Yahuah
Jesus is Salvation HAS Come: Yahusha
THAT is the correct Ancient Hebrew. Not the Yiddish Hebrew that is from the European Ashkenazi Jews who rely on their Babyonian Talmud. It is NOT the ANCIENT Hebrew. The forms of Name's translations are incorrect. Yeshua is simply Joshua and Yahusha's Name was MORE than any mere man's name; as He came from His Father Yahuah- Salvation To Come
Yahusha-Salvation has come.
The Jews do not know the Father intimately enough to know Him as Savior. That's why they never could accept Jesus as Messiah or the Savior that has come.
If you disbelieve, research it for yourself.
Our world is populated by all kinds of people with hugely varying levels of intelligence. Almost anyone would consider themselves to be intelligent, of course, and it can be very hard to get an accurate assessment of our own intelligence. After all, our thoughts always tend to sound smart in our own head, don’t they?
And intelligence is very important. Especially in a professional context, a smart and agile mind can be your best asset. But people who are less smart often have habits that out them as stupid and can also be quite catastrophic in a number of circumstances.
Let's see the level of intelligence you have, What is the Trinity? The Trinity is this: The Father is God, the Son is God, and the Holy Ghost is God, and yet not three Gods (Elohim), One God (EL or Eloah). The use of the Hebrew word “Elohim” (a plural) translated as God (singular) in the versions of the Bible specifically in Genesis 1:1 into other languages was never meant to demonstrate the Trinity and would be out of context to do so. Does a Christian need to believe in the Trinity to be a Christian? Must one believe in the Trinity in order to be saved? And if so, why did our Savior and His disciples never teach the doctrine of the Trinity? Why would Christians three centuries later give credence to the councils of men seeking to define the deity of Christ in conjunction with the Father without revelation from God? In the history of Christianity, the first four ecumenical councils include the following: the First Council of Nicaea in 325, the First Council of Constantinople in 381, the Council of Ephesus in 431, the Council of Chalcedon in 451 were designed to argue over who God is without one thus says the LORD! If the doctrine of the Trinity is correct, then why did it take all these councils to finally decide and design the deity of Christ? From the beginning in the year 325 CE to the year 380 when it supposedly ended. Can mankind define who God is? No. Only God can reveal Himself to mankind. Accordingly, scholars agree that “Although early Christian theologians speculated in many ways on the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit relationship, no one clearly and fully asserted the doctrine of the Trinity as explained...until around the end of the so-called Arian Controversy. Nonetheless, proponents of such theories always claim them to be in some sense founded on, or at least illustrated by, biblical texts” (Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy, Dale Tuggy, 2020). In fact, the Trinitarians claim to base their definition of God can only be done by implication, as there is absolutely no explicit doctrine of the Trinity in the Bible. There are two seemingly explicit pillars for the Trinity in the New Testament, namely, Matthew 28:19 and 1 John 5:7-8. First, 1 John 5:7-8, known as The Johannine Comma, is an interpolation (words added) as acknowledged by Christian scholars, to the Bible by over-zealous Trinitarians, who wanted some testimony to the Trinity, due to the fact that in the Bible there is no such doctrine of the Trinity. Second, Matthew 28:19 has come under suspicion by Christian scholars, a commandment allegedly given by Christ to the disciples to baptize in the name of the Father. and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost, however, the disciples were only baptized in the Savior’s name as demonstrated in the Book of Acts. The early church historian Eusebius, wrote (as published circa 316 CE) in his book on early church history, Matthew 28:19, that Christ actually said, "Go and make disciples of all the nations in my name" (Eusebius, The History of the Church, p. 68, PENGU1N CLASSICS, 1965). The Trinity has only really existed since the 4th century. Historian H.G. Wells factually stated, "There is no evidence that the apostles of Jesus {YAHSHUA} ever heard of the Trinity-at any rate from Him" (The Outline of History, Vol. 2, p. 499). Martin Luther is quoted in a sermon saying, "It is indeed true that the name 'Trinity' is nowhere to be found in the Holy Scriptures, but has been conceived and invented by man" (The Sermons of Martin Luther, Vol. 3, p. 406, 1988). It is time that the false Trinity Doctrine cease to exist in Christianity! Catholics and Protestants agree that “Whoever will be saved: before all things, it is necessary to keep the Catholic faith… unless he keeps this faith whole, he will perish everlastingly...And the Catholic faith is this: we worship one God in Trinity” (Catholicism, p. 69, 1961). Protestant professor of Theology James White, states, “The Trinity doctrine is misunderstood as well as ignored. It is so misunderstood that a majority of Christians when asked, give incorrect and at times downright heretical definitions of the Trinity” (James White, The Forgotten Trinity, p. 16). According to James White, around 75% of Christians, who think themselves to be Trinitarians, are actually Modalists. Modalism: One God who at different times represents Himself in three different modes of being: Father, Son, and Holy Ghost. If belief in the Trinity doctrine is so critical to our salvation, the question goes begging, why did Christ and the disciples not preach the Trinity, which historically developed over 300 years after Christ? To say that one must believe in the Trinity in order to be saved, when Christ never stipulated the doctrine as a prerequisite for salvation is the grossest form of legalism! The man-made Trinity Doctrine is so ingrained into the imagination of Christians for salvation, and despite the fact that Christ and the apostles never ever taught it, and it becomes unthinkable to cast aside this doctrine based upon the traditions of men. Consequently, many could actually stand condemned for believing in the Trinity and teaching it according to the Tradition of men, and not of God. Christ warned us about teaching doctrines without one thus says the LORD! And He...said to them, “Well did Isaiah prophesy of you hypocrites, as it is written: ‘This people honors Me with their lips, but their heart is far from Me. And in vain they worship Me, teaching as doctrines the commandments of men.’ For laying aside the commandment of God, you hold the tradition of men…” He told them, “All too well you reject the commandment of God, that you may keep your tradition” (Mark 7:6-9). Christians do not need to believe in the Trinity in order to receive salvation and eternal life in the Kingdom of God! If Christians needed to believe in the Trinity in order to be saved, then it would have been taught in the New Testament by our Lord and Savior. Biblically and historically the Trinity was never taught as also evidenced in the New Testament. The Trinity is a useless Doctrine based solely on the misunderstanding and confusion of men. It is time for Christians to free themselves from the doctrines of men. The Son of God declared: “Most assuredly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I AM” (John 8:58). YAH is the meaning of I AM. By this statement, Christ told the Jews that He is their God, the very God of Israel, which is why He claimed to be their only God to the glory of His God and Father. Not to take this statement made in John 8:58 as true in that He the Father is greater than He, the Son of God, is equivalent to calling Christ a liar. Based on everything presented here, the statement by churches that one must believe in the Trinity in order to be saved is the highest form of legalism. But doesn’t Elohim prove the Trinity, after all, it is plural? No. Elohim means Gods. The Trinity is the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost is God, and yet not three Gods [Elohim], One God [Eloah, or EL]. The true definition of Elohim is “the God of gods” (Deuteronomy 10:17).
religion is a thick chain , who keeps the man attached to his cage
it has no freedom to see more than his cage ,Islam is the champion of this
You do realize that to have 99.99999997% of a group of people, you would need 10 BILLION of those people.
also need to exclude kids
Actually its 10 Billion. You are off by a factor of a thousand. But either way, that's more Muslims than exist on the planet so you are correct in calling bullshit on him.
qwe w
no kids are muslims????
Nope. If You consider human population growth data (300 000 000 in 6th century 1000 000 000 we crossed in 1820 and 7 300 000 000 now - you can take all dates between from Wiki and extrapolate) and the % of muslims in total population (less than 1% till 700 AD, less than 5% till 1000 AD, less than 15% till 1800 and 19,2% now) You can calculate ammount of muslims in each generation and add it. The total number is arround 6 700 000 000 muslims ever lived. 0,00000003% of this is 2,01 persons :) Think more than 3 muslims EVER EXISTING have seen this :)
But in the video he says 99,9999997 % so there is a description error in thetitle. This meand that 4 currently living muslims knew this and 20 of ever existing :P
99.9999997% of Christians don't understand what you're talking about))))
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I guess no one does...😊😂🤣
eddie sssss Sahih Bukhari book 21 Hadith 245
Narrated 'Abdullah : A person was mentioned before the Prophet -peace and blessings of Allah be upon him- and he was told that he had kept on sleeping till morning and had not got up for the prayer. The Prophet said, "Satan urinated in his ears."
eddie sssss
You took a poll of all Christians?
To be a real Phd degree holder, to be respected, convincing and listened to, you should respect others.... his way of talks are from a high level with a lot of discrimination and sarcasting.
Nonsense. He uses some humor, but sure is not disrespectful or sarcastic. You must be a snowflake.
BTW, everyone should be discriminating.
Empty words and stinky breath..
Do you have a PHD Doctorate ??? 🙏
This dude should have this talk in Deerborn, Michigan.