Agreed! He's looked the best out of the other midfielders. Ødegaard's back, Merino's slowly finding his feet and that leaves us with Rice. If he regains his form, we'll be really solid in midfield again. Can't wait.
Lee is a gem. He fused Drastic & dramatic and evolved it into a better word. My life and vocabulary has improved dramastically from this moment onwards
We need to appreciate how good this team is. With the recent results, we have forgotten that. I am sure we will go on a run if everyone is fit. Liverpool have a few tough games coming up. Coyg
The Havertz disrespect in this pod is crazy, he has arguably been our best performer this calendar year: 15 g/a in 13 league games at striker last season, top scorer by far this season (all comps), despite him playing a deeper role in Ødegaards absence. And Turkish refuses to acknowledge it. As soon as he isn't playing, Turkish spends the pod criticizing Havertz as if we didn't start scoring 5 goals a game as soon as he started up top. Every time we drop points, Turkish goes off on Havertz with the excuse being that "he's the highest earner" as if Jesus doesn't earn 90% of his wages with 90% less output to the squad. Turkish needs to put his grudges aside and admit that Havertz was an incredible signing, rather than trying desperately to justify the fact that he started jumping on him as soon as he came into the club. Havertz is our player, if you want him to fail, don't call yourself an Arsenal fan.
He’s contributed but bro an incredible signing? He goes missing out of so many games it’s ok to back your players but fans go too far on here. When other players don’t perform like Martinelli he gets criticised heavily, some fans just overlook havertz when he’s not always good
@@SA-tf7rx In all fairness Martinelli has barely performed in a season and a half. Havertz doesn't turn up any less than our other top players. If there were multiple top clubs wanting to spend over 60 million on him for his chelsea days he easily goes for 90+ million now after his best ever season by a mile, definitely an incredible signing.
That's because people big up Havertz more than he deserves and yesterday the team had it's best game without him. Like I said above, free flowing football was back without Havertz! I've got nothing against him, though!
33:00 good point about odegarrd, I also noticed about him and that he’s an absolute leader when it comes to pressing, all the front line players look at him to get the instruction when to press.
That’s also because he is the lead of the press that’s how we’ve played for a number of years now, it’s not the front men who start the press when ode goes the rest then snap into it
Havertz was not benched, he was RESTED from international duty. Watch him walk back into this squad now that Odegaard is back. Still so much disrespect for this player, it's mad -
I think people forget pre Odegaard injury, Havertz record for G/A & XG was on a roll, and at the time succeeding or equalling the 'proper' strikers out there in the league.
Love the show lads. Never miss it. Last week Jordan tore into lee I don't care about injuries. But this week on about injuries to city and forest in the first 20 minutes. Make up your mind. Again love the show.
What a win boys good to see my guy Turkish cheeky smile 😀I don’t like an angry Turkish because I believe deep down he loves these current crop of players but they need to get over the line. The best podcast this season for sure.S/o all the boys from 🇰🇪 🇰🇪 🇰🇪
Being a Gooner from London, now based in Japan, I'm a regular viewer of the Forever Arsenal show and love it. Arteta's recent press conference shed light on the impact of injuries on the team's performance. He emphasized the importance of a fully fit squad in creating a competitive training environment. This, in turn, can lead to increased motivation, better individual performances, competition for positions and a more cohesive team unit. I think this is a credible explanation for the team's recent struggles. Why do you all think people are dismissive of this? This is exactly what's happening at City at the moment
Odegaard is hands down better than Ozil people are just afraid to say that because it's an unpopular opinion. What can ozil do that Odegaard can't? Technically I feel like Odegaard edges it as well. I also don't get this trophy thing either that's a team achievement. There are some players that are nowhere near as good as Ronaldo for example but they've won the world cup. That doesn't make them better than him. So just because ozil won trophies at Madrid and 3 FA cups doesn't mean anything to be honest in terms of who is actually better
How can you say that if we never saw a starting midfield of Merino Martin and Rice ? 😂😂 Today Partey scored everybody love him and dissing Rice. Next week Partey makes a mistake people will say why Rice did not play. Football is not perfect math every player is important and everyone can have a bad day at the office.
There’s only one word that can properly describe this episode- “Dramastically”- Lee’s absolutely legendary vocabulary strikes again. Big up from Denver, Colorado
Jordan only looks at the screen when he’s talking. Saying “yeah” every so often to seen like he’s listening, but instead watching something like Legally Blonde
That little pass to Saka for his goal, so simple so devine. No one else makes that. Odeegard playiso many interactions on edge box when he mde the run and Partey scored, whole Forest team mentally followed Odeegard 😂. Made extra space. ❤
Ozil is the Laziest player I have ever seen,dropped his head, often spat his Dummy and never showed up when we played German sides in Champions League 😊
Ozil represents everything I hated about those years in arsenal. Lazy, soft, weak, loser, doesn’t care, talent means nothing in the premier league if you don’t put an effort
That performance was EXACTLY what everyone was asking for after the break. 3 great goals, 3 points and suddenly the light isn't as dim as it was few days ago
Turkish wasn’t demanding Jesus to start in our Jan to May run when we won 16 lost 1 and drew 1 game with Havertz as the main guy. These boys love to play agendas.
My wife is here sitting with me watching this for the first time. We are about 5-10 minutes and she says, “who is the guy in the top right (Jordan)?. He doesnt seem like he’s bothered to be there”. 😂😂😂😂
I honestly couldn't grasp the fact there were fans that could not see our drop off in performances and results, was down to ødegaard being out. I said many times, if he returns and we continue to play the same way, all those fans would then have a point, but as we saw yesterday, ødegaard makes us tick, and we looked fluid, quick, confident, and dominant again. 1 player really can make a team.
The main argument wasn't how we should play the same without Ødegaard, but it was more of how we shouldn't have that much of a drop off/style change if we lose 1 player. 5 years into our project, we should have a decent replacement for our best player that can bring a similar play style. Obviously we can never get a replacement on the same level as Ødegaard, but if we don't have ESR and Viera and not using Nwaneri, then we should have gotten another AM that we can use that wouldn't make us completely change our style.
We only played badly in two games without odegard Bournemouth and Newcastle otherwise the other games were down to bad ref decisions and luck that costed us at least 6 points
Lee calling Haaland’s form dramastically bad right after roasting Arteta-he’s out here doing two-footed tackles on the English language and the Premier League in one go! 😂😂😂
We have capitalised on it anytime we win and our rivals drop points it puts us a step forward, remember liverpool could have won the league last year , city were 10 points behind us the year before it's about these moments.
I watched Southampton vs Liverpool and surly Liverpool can’t keep getting away with it. The amount of games that Liverpool could have lost this season is unbelievable !
@ I don’t watch every Liverpool game but I do play golf every week with 2 Liverpool fans and they tell me every week that Liverpool aren’t playing well, but just getting away with it ! But from my memory Aston Villa had enough good opportunities to win that game. Well ok then Arsenal, Brighton, Southampton 3 games out of 12 is a quarter of games to me that’s unbelievable ! Even if you don’t count villa !
Don’t know what games they are watching most fans all say they don’t feel the nerves they did in games last season. Villa also had 2 shots from corners first half and that was it. Apart from a Olympic diving team audition from Watkins
@ just looked up sky sports match stats against villa 3 clear cut chances each so on a different day ! Discount Salah’s goal as villa were pushing on for late equaliser. So really not a lot in it ! I’ve just noticed the referee on that day was Coote, the man who hates Klopp apparently, what better revenge on Klopp than helping Liverpool win the title the year after leaving with the team that klopp built ! I wonder if the other referees hold the same grudges with Klopp ? As we know referees hold biases against players and teams, look at what city have been getting away with for years, perhaps now Klopp has gone it Liverpool’s turn !
Jordan is one of those guys you used to leave behind when you were young and planned a sneaky mission because you knew he would either get you caught or sabotage the whole thing. Love the podcast, guys!
I agree with Lee Judges, Haaland's form has dropped "dramastically" since criticising Arteta. Lee's grasp of the english language never ceases to amaze me ^^
Duno why Turkish hates Havertz. We saw 2nd half of last season, Havertz and Odegaard are our most important players. Saka and Saliba are our best players
I was one of those that thought the title wasn't over. I dont think we do it as we have to be perfect and still pray for losses elsewhere lol. but we still can. Time to pray for a loss today for Liverpool, though unlikely tbh haha.
Odegaard is perphaps the most technical players in the league. I really don’t believe his technically inferior to ozil, even when ozil was in his prime. Ozil was much faster, much less industrious and at arsenal he was farcical at times
He is Ozil done it for Madrid Germany and Arsenal he was in a different league never forget his 2010 World Cup. Odegaard is good but Ozil is a different level
@@KINGDMANN so ødegaard should win the World Cup with Norway? Or get the same amount of assists as Özil did in la Liga? When Real Madrid was dominant and Ronaldo was the striker? Odegaard has played with strikers with the caliber of Jesus, Nketiah and King Kai
O usually agree with what Turish has to say but Kia getting shots for no reason was uncalled for so because we played really well yesterday without Roce playing too does that mean we're a better team without Rice? Of course, we're not
Terrible reffing, when we have the ball the ref has his whistle by his side , when the other team have the ball , the whistle is in his hand next to his mouth , can't wait to give a decision against us , blatant
Guys, the beauty of this format is you really dont know where you finish till the last day. Unless you are 4pts ahead or 4pts at the bottom. Wherever you finish determines who you will play and your route to the final. No more draws in Nyon this season.
The Odegaard Ozil convo is pointless. Firstly, they're comparing 25 year old Odergaard to Ozil's whole career and International accolades like its Odegaads fault he he his from Norway and not a country like Germany. Lastly I hate trophies being used to measure player ability, on that basis Julian Alverz is MILES better than Harry Kane.
Arteta should start making kai start on the bench with martineli in some matches, but January we need Gyokeres to win any trophy realistically. Don't get excited yet let's try to put up a run of 10games we see.
@@KamKmaK Do you even remember where Arsenal comes during the eras of Wenger and Unai we were the joke of English football, the banter club, no one was scared of the Emirates but now teams have fear when coming to the Emirates even Liverpool and City nowadays would rather a draw with Arsenal. So I'm proud of Arteta and I love the fact that the Kroekoes also love Arteta and will never sack him just because some Arsenal fans say so.
Woke up in a sweat the other night, Guys. Don’t know if it was the fact that my beloved Arsenal hod lost six games on the trot, or the sight of Jordan on the Fourever Arsenal Podcast, wearing a red cap, reading ‘Make Arsenal Great Again’!, Seriously, such an unmissable Podcast, Lads - long may it continue. From: Bexley John.
The importance of Ødegaard to how efficient the team plays highlights the necessity of grooming/buying a competent stand-in for when he’s out or needs a rest
Sporting are unbeaten in 18 games and have won their last 9 on the bounce. Going to be a seriously tough fixture but we need to start picking up away wins in Europe if we want to be taken seriously in this competition
I agree--WHEN Havertz scores he is a big asset to the team. If you're looking for goals, he's the best 9 we've got. I get it. But if he doesn't score, does the team really look better with him than when Jesús plays decently? The problem is that Jesús hasn't played decently this season until yesterday, but you just do not get free flowing football to the same degree with Havertz. Also, like Lee said, Jesús is naturally an unselfish player--he tries to do what's best for the team.
That saka goal reminded me of a hungry alexis sanchez. Need to see him be direct stardust & take players kill teams on his own! He's more than capable. The Prince Of ARSENAL
Havertz had an immense effect on this match…by sitting on the bench he allowed our team to be more fluid. What a move by the "striker". Just have him on the bench and we will win. Call it the reverse striker.
Jordan’s talent for being consistently inconsistent knows no bounds-he even brings it into real life. Case in point: a few weeks ago, we were set for a poker night, but it got cancelled last minute because, fittingly, he flopped.
I'm seeing a different side to Saka this season, He's putting himself forward as that guy. In his post match after the sporting game he said anyone could of got it 😂 he can tell we're cooking something
The signing of Mr Havertz is probably what has put ArseNil into a corner 1. He is not excelling at any one attribute or position 2. Transfer Fee was relatively high (financial Fair Play handicap) and then the wage bill 3. Forcing the team to play in a certain way, even an out of form but relatively mobile Gabriel Jesus brings a different dynamic ArseNil
@@Targeting-Must-End Well, he moved us forward last season... We scored a record number of goals with him starting as our striker. In fact we struggled in a few games when he wasn't playing in that position. He's far from the ideal striker and yes Gabi brings a different dynamic but you can't say he's better for the team than Kai. Certainly not more available.
In the Odegaard vs Ozil debate there are two conversations. Who was the more talented player and who would you rather build a team around. Ozil was always a luxury player, but I could never imagine him leading our press. It would be so easy to play through us with Ozil in this team. Odegaard does 80% of what Ozil did from an attacking standpoint, but then offers the pressing and leadership that Ozil could only dream of. With that said, Ozil was probably one of the last of a dying breed of 10s that truly played the game beautifully
Yesterday was one of our best defensive performance without parking the bus or lacking fluidity, and that's with ball playing Midfielders, and that's without Rice. but rice still has a big role to play especially in big games.
9:18 - ‘dramastically’ another Lee masterclass
😂👌🏾
Dramatically and drastically combined, he's a true genius
outdone by "Inflenential"
😂
he said that one three times now. No one corrects him anymore 😂
PARTEY has been outstanding so far this season.
Our most consistent/best player this season for me 💯
Fanboys wincing at this statement lmao
Agreed! He's looked the best out of the other midfielders. Ødegaard's back, Merino's slowly finding his feet and that leaves us with Rice. If he regains his form, we'll be really solid in midfield again. Can't wait.
Dramastically: Another addition to Lee’s Dictionary of Weird and Wonderful Words 😂 What a guy!!!
You missed infulential 🤣
Turkish linking one of our better performance to Havertz absence rather than Odergards presence🤦🏻♂️
But we know when odegaard plays we’re better by nature. When havertz plays there is no guarantee
@ agree, but it does not mean that we played better BECAUSE Havertz was out and Jesus in.
@@Valion85i think it’s a bit harsh but jesus does make our team link up better than havertz but he’s so inconsistent so i’d rather have havertz
Icl I like Turkish he’s calm and he’s doing his ting but he needs to Lowe this havertz ting. Always throwing sly digs
You've got to admit that, when he is right, he's damn right!
This performance was much better than most or every match weve had. What a dramastic difference 1 player makes. 'Odegaard'
Lee is a gem. He fused Drastic & dramatic and evolved it into a better word. My life and vocabulary has improved dramastically from this moment onwards
Jesus and Havertz are not the same level, Jesus has not scored in PL since January. while Havertz is almost 1 in 2.
😳
Jesus is done he can’t even dribble anymore
How many games Jesus started as striker ?🤔
Both are mid we need an other striker tbh.
We need to appreciate how good this team is. With the recent results, we have forgotten that. I am sure we will go on a run if everyone is fit. Liverpool have a few tough games coming up. Coyg
City isn't a tough game anymore 😂 Liverpool will smoke them
@@Valion85 fully agree with you
The Havertz disrespect in this pod is crazy, he has arguably been our best performer this calendar year: 15 g/a in 13 league games at striker last season, top scorer by far this season (all comps), despite him playing a deeper role in Ødegaards absence. And Turkish refuses to acknowledge it. As soon as he isn't playing, Turkish spends the pod criticizing Havertz as if we didn't start scoring 5 goals a game as soon as he started up top. Every time we drop points, Turkish goes off on Havertz with the excuse being that "he's the highest earner" as if Jesus doesn't earn 90% of his wages with 90% less output to the squad. Turkish needs to put his grudges aside and admit that Havertz was an incredible signing, rather than trying desperately to justify the fact that he started jumping on him as soon as he came into the club. Havertz is our player, if you want him to fail, don't call yourself an Arsenal fan.
He sux
He’s contributed but bro an incredible signing? He goes missing out of so many games it’s ok to back your players but fans go too far on here. When other players don’t perform like Martinelli he gets criticised heavily, some fans just overlook havertz when he’s not always good
@@SA-tf7rx In all fairness Martinelli has barely performed in a season and a half. Havertz doesn't turn up any less than our other top players. If there were multiple top clubs wanting to spend over 60 million on him for his chelsea days he easily goes for 90+ million now after his best ever season by a mile, definitely an incredible signing.
Havertz is a bench player at best! Raise your standards
Havertz is average at best
Havertz didn’t even play yesterday and Turkish is still mentioning him and throwing digs at him out of nowhere every 10 minutes 😂
Eddie forever
@@BenjaminSam100 It's the wages. Always is, always will be. Kai could score a UCL final hat trick and nothing will change. Just gotta roll with it
That's because people big up Havertz more than he deserves and yesterday the team had it's best game without him. Like I said above, free flowing football was back without Havertz! I've got nothing against him, though!
Because Havertz is a major liability is very clear the players just can’t say it
Kai havertz should not be a starting 9 for Arsenal football club. I don't care how many duels and pressures he wins.
33:00 good point about odegarrd, I also noticed about him and that he’s an absolute leader when it comes to pressing, all the front line players look at him to get the instruction when to press.
That’s also because he is the lead of the press that’s how we’ve played for a number of years now, it’s not the front men who start the press when ode goes the rest then snap into it
Thought it was a solid performance - push on from here
Lovely to see the smiles back on your faces. It's a beautiful sight, witnessing, in real time, the calm before the storm.
Turkish seems to have a lot invested in us doing badly. Put him the fella Lee. He's on a path of learning
09:17 dramastically… Lee it’s either dramatically or drastically
Lee: "His form has dropped DRAMASTICLY" 9:18 An all timer right there 🤣 Love the pod keep up the good work
Spot on James '" It was a win for our best technicians "( 17:50 ) . Havertz, Martinelli and Rice are poor technically.
Havertz was not benched, he was RESTED from international duty. Watch him walk back into this squad now that Odegaard is back. Still so much disrespect for this player, it's mad -
thanks arteta
Our fanbase is full of muppets, thank fuck for Arteta.
Can't believe we hyping Havertz up, when we had killers like Henry, RVP and Auba
Havertz is trash .. behave yourself 😂
I think people forget pre Odegaard injury, Havertz record for G/A & XG was on a roll, and at the time succeeding or equalling the 'proper' strikers out there in the league.
They don’t forget but Turkish definitely deliberately “forgets” so he can run his anti Kai agenda
Love the show lads. Never miss it. Last week Jordan tore into lee I don't care about injuries. But this week on about injuries to city and forest in the first 20 minutes. Make up your mind. Again love the show.
Doesn't take a rocket science to know that City winning at anfield and we winning our game favours us
Praying for a miracle 🤞 lad mug 🍻 lol YNWA LFC 🧬
@@patrick.4814get that ynwa out of AFTV arsenal content it's weird I've never been on a Liverpool fan channel to watch let alone comment
Thats what i said.
Thats the best case scenario. We need Liverpool to drop 3 points.
What a win boys good to see my guy Turkish cheeky smile 😀I don’t like an angry Turkish because I believe deep down he loves these current crop of players but they need to get over the line. The best podcast this season for sure.S/o all the boys from 🇰🇪 🇰🇪 🇰🇪
Jordan turning in to Peter Griffin at 14:01
Being a Gooner from London, now based in Japan, I'm a regular viewer of the Forever Arsenal show and love it. Arteta's recent press conference shed light on the impact of injuries on the team's performance. He emphasized the importance of a fully fit squad in creating a competitive training environment. This, in turn, can lead to increased motivation, better individual performances, competition for positions and a more cohesive team unit. I think this is a credible explanation for the team's recent struggles. Why do you all think people are dismissive of this? This is exactly what's happening at City at the moment
Also is Jordan really paying attention staring into oblivion.. bit rude mate...just kidding
I love how Jordan always focuses on the next game as if he hasn't watched the last one
Odegaard is hands down better than Ozil people are just afraid to say that because it's an unpopular opinion. What can ozil do that Odegaard can't? Technically I feel like Odegaard edges it as well. I also don't get this trophy thing either that's a team achievement. There are some players that are nowhere near as good as Ronaldo for example but they've won the world cup. That doesn't make them better than him. So just because ozil won trophies at Madrid and 3 FA cups doesn't mean anything to be honest in terms of who is actually better
Yesterday suggested Rice may be slowing the progression of the midfield every time he's on the park
How can you say that if we never saw a starting midfield of Merino Martin and Rice ? 😂😂
Today Partey scored everybody love him and dissing Rice.
Next week Partey makes a mistake people will say why Rice did not play.
Football is not perfect math every player is important and everyone can have a bad day at the office.
There’s only one word that can properly describe this episode- “Dramastically”- Lee’s absolutely legendary vocabulary strikes again. Big up from Denver, Colorado
I love Lee’s contributions to the English language. Dramastically is my new word of the year 🎉🤣
Jordan only looks at the screen when he’s talking. Saying “yeah” every so often to seen like he’s listening, but instead watching something like Legally Blonde
That little pass to Saka for his goal, so simple so devine. No one else makes that.
Odeegard playiso many interactions on edge box when he mde the run and Partey scored, whole Forest team mentally followed Odeegard 😂. Made extra space. ❤
Ozil was a top player, but I’m taking Odegard over Ozil any day.
Ozil is the Laziest player I have ever seen,dropped his head, often spat his Dummy and never showed up when we played German sides in Champions League 😊
He is Ozil with legs a heart and integrity and leadership qualities ❤
Ozil represents everything I hated about those years in arsenal. Lazy, soft, weak, loser, doesn’t care, talent means nothing in the premier league if you don’t put an effort
That performance was EXACTLY what everyone was asking for after the break. 3 great goals, 3 points and suddenly the light isn't as dim as it was few days ago
💯💯💯💯💯💯
Turkish wasn’t demanding Jesus to start in our Jan to May run when we won 16 lost 1 and drew 1 game with Havertz as the main guy.
These boys love to play agendas.
Some people go to formula 1 for the crashes, I watch this pod now for Jordan's lights, camera, action 🙂
Jordan: “Not Martin Keown” 😂😂😂 much love Jordan bro you’ve been brilliant the last year or so
My wife is here sitting with me watching this for the first time. We are about 5-10 minutes and she says, “who is the guy in the top right (Jordan)?. He doesnt seem like he’s bothered to be there”. 😂😂😂😂
I think he's watching something on Netflix.. 😂
Jordan is “troll participating”😂
You know it’s bad when someone’s form drops dramastically. Fantastic to see lees vocab coming into fruitition
Somehow Turkish saying love for the love , peace is the verbal equivalent of the visual impact of Lee in a silk dress 👗
Someone needs to make a Jordan best bits compilation
STAY HUMBLE EHHH!!
If havertz was playing we probably would of scored more. The one huge factor to our improvement is odegaard and that’s it.
I honestly couldn't grasp the fact there were fans that could not see our drop off in performances and results, was down to ødegaard being out. I said many times, if he returns and we continue to play the same way, all those fans would then have a point, but as we saw yesterday, ødegaard makes us tick, and we looked fluid, quick, confident, and dominant again. 1 player really can make a team.
The main argument wasn't how we should play the same without Ødegaard, but it was more of how we shouldn't have that much of a drop off/style change if we lose 1 player. 5 years into our project, we should have a decent replacement for our best player that can bring a similar play style. Obviously we can never get a replacement on the same level as Ødegaard, but if we don't have ESR and Viera and not using Nwaneri, then we should have gotten another AM that we can use that wouldn't make us completely change our style.
Sorry to break it to you but you can’t win the title if you rely on one single player to change your entire dynamic.
We only played badly in two games without odegard Bournemouth and Newcastle otherwise the other games were down to bad ref decisions and luck that costed us at least 6 points
@LFC_fan7 you wouldn't miss Salah then😉
Lee calling Haaland’s form dramastically bad right after roasting Arteta-he’s out here doing two-footed tackles on the English language and the Premier League in one go! 😂😂😂
We have capitalised on it anytime we win and our rivals drop points it puts us a step forward, remember liverpool could have won the league last year , city were 10 points behind us the year before it's about these moments.
Was at the game great atmosphere, Forest fans were lively.
I watched Southampton vs Liverpool and surly Liverpool can’t keep getting away with it. The amount of games that Liverpool could have lost this season is unbelievable !
Apart from Arsenal and Brighton what games?
@ I don’t watch every Liverpool game but I do play golf every week with 2 Liverpool fans and they tell me every week that Liverpool aren’t playing well, but just getting away with it ! But from my memory Aston Villa had enough good opportunities to win that game. Well ok then Arsenal, Brighton, Southampton 3 games out of 12 is a quarter of games to me that’s unbelievable ! Even if you don’t count villa !
Don’t know what games they are watching most fans all say they don’t feel the nerves they did in games last season.
Villa also had 2 shots from corners first half and that was it. Apart from a Olympic diving team audition from Watkins
@ it’s amazing how people see games differently, depending on perspective !
@ just looked up sky sports match stats against villa 3 clear cut chances each so on a different day ! Discount Salah’s goal as villa were pushing on for late equaliser. So really not a lot in it !
I’ve just noticed the referee on that day was Coote, the man who hates Klopp apparently, what better revenge on Klopp than helping Liverpool win the title the year after leaving with the team that klopp built ! I wonder if the other referees hold the same grudges with Klopp ? As we know referees hold biases against players and teams, look at what city have been getting away with for years, perhaps now Klopp has gone it Liverpool’s turn !
Jordan is one of those guys you used to leave behind when you were young and planned a sneaky mission because you knew he would either get you caught or sabotage the whole thing. Love the podcast, guys!
Saying Odegaard isn't anywhere near ozil technically is disingenuous
Odegaard is way suited to the premier league than Ozil . Ozil was inconsistent and lazy
I agree with Lee Judges, Haaland's form has dropped "dramastically" since criticising Arteta.
Lee's grasp of the english language never ceases to amaze me ^^
😂😂😂
Haaland’s form since then has been prophetic.
Stay humble ehhh 😂
He hasn't been "infulential" for city lately
When jurdinho is on the pitch is like a coach cause we all can see what he did yelling and directing players
Unfortunately he is too slow for the league and being our CDM now but great tactician and passer no doubt.
Duno why Turkish hates Havertz. We saw 2nd half of last season, Havertz and Odegaard are our most important players.
Saka and Saliba are our best players
I was one of those that thought the title wasn't over. I dont think we do it as we have to be perfect and still pray for losses elsewhere lol. but we still can. Time to pray for a loss today for Liverpool, though unlikely tbh haha.
Lee: i was still a bit nervy at 2 - 0!
Lee 2 minutes later: I was relaxed and not worried at all😂😂😂
its crazy to me that they think ozil is way better technically than Ødegaard!
Agreed. Weird!
Odegaard is perphaps the most technical players in the league. I really don’t believe his technically inferior to ozil, even when ozil was in his prime. Ozil was much faster, much less industrious and at arsenal he was farcical at times
He is Ozil done it for Madrid Germany and Arsenal he was in a different league never forget his 2010 World Cup. Odegaard is good but Ozil is a different level
@@KINGDMANN so ødegaard should win the World Cup with Norway? Or get the same amount of assists as Özil did in la Liga? When Real Madrid was dominant and Ronaldo was the striker? Odegaard has played with strikers with the caliber of Jesus, Nketiah and King Kai
@ did you watch Ozil at werder Bremen? You’re a kid stop talking to me about ball.
Yeah that goal that Saka scored is a prime Messi goal.
Saka will reach heights higher than Messi pal, his Ballon D'or list starts from 2025
That Ødegaard assist is on The same level as Busquest assist. It was all Saka
Love you Lee thats how you gotta be to get in comments of the week, im sure u make them balaclavas work the camera! lol love 4 the love!
Shinchenko
Shitchenko
O usually agree with what Turish has to say but Kia getting shots for no reason was uncalled for so because we played really well yesterday without Roce playing too does that mean we're a better team without Rice? Of course, we're not
Kia and roce 😂
Bro this is football, we can all have our opinions.
Out biggest opponent this season is PGMOL. The ref flashed an yellow card for every simple challenge by one of our players.
Terrible reffing, when we have the ball the ref has his whistle by his side , when the other team have the ball , the whistle is in his hand next to his mouth , can't wait to give a decision against us , blatant
Great show as always lads
Lee's comments are dramastically underrated, just ask Shinchenko
Guys, the beauty of this format is you really dont know where you finish till the last day. Unless you are 4pts ahead or 4pts at the bottom. Wherever you finish determines who you will play and your route to the final. No more draws in Nyon this season.
Arteta tried squad rotation and it worked, he's like" wow, this really works!"
Arguably buying Ødegaard within 35 million was a bargain of the decade !!
Well done Lee on climbing off the bottom of the prediction table. League form has changed dramastically (9.19)
Jorginho was unlucky to go off...as he was very good in 1st half
Yellow card bro
The Odegaard Ozil convo is pointless. Firstly, they're comparing 25 year old Odergaard to Ozil's whole career and International accolades like its Odegaads fault he he his from Norway and not a country like Germany. Lastly I hate trophies being used to measure player ability, on that basis Julian Alverz is MILES better than Harry Kane.
Arteta should start making kai start on the bench with martineli in some matches, but January we need Gyokeres to win any trophy realistically. Don't get excited yet let's try to put up a run of 10games we see.
09:15 Turkish sips tea after Lee says “dramastically”, gold😂
Turkish saying he’d take Ozil over Odegaard is wild! Ozil was a flair player who played well when we were but was also shockingly bad when we were.
Ozil represents everything I hated about arsenal back then
Let's give Arteta he's flowers, he's done great on his 250th game a 10/10 everything from the starting 11 to subs.🎉
Warra trophy for the last 5 years
250th game 1 fa cup. Damn we really are not a big club anymore
@@KamKmaK Do you even remember where Arsenal comes during the eras of Wenger and Unai we were the joke of English football, the banter club, no one was scared of the Emirates but now teams have fear when coming to the Emirates even Liverpool and City nowadays would rather a draw with Arsenal. So I'm proud of Arteta and I love the fact that the Kroekoes also love Arteta and will never sack him just because some Arsenal fans say so.
Arteta has spent over £800m and achieved nothing.
😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@mac10nerI'm not even sure how answer what your saying because it makes zero sense.
Spurs under Ange are more like Leeds under Bielsa
Over £500,000 per week on strikers and top player are saka and odegaard..😮
I know there are levels between man city and wigan, but spurs beating wigan 9-0 or 9-1 during the Defoe Era was a nice win
Woke up in a sweat the other night, Guys. Don’t know if it was the fact that my beloved Arsenal hod lost six games on the trot, or the sight of Jordan on the Fourever Arsenal Podcast, wearing a red cap, reading ‘Make Arsenal Great Again’!, Seriously, such an unmissable Podcast, Lads - long may it continue. From: Bexley John.
The importance of Ødegaard to how efficient the team plays highlights the necessity of grooming/buying a competent stand-in for when he’s out or needs a rest
Southgate killed Foden and Rice. Both haven't been the same since playing out of position for England in the summer.
Bruh! Can Jordan be this enthusiastic when speaking about Arsenal please! Jumping for joy at Spurs winning😂
Sporting are unbeaten in 18 games and have won their last 9 on the bounce. Going to be a seriously tough fixture but we need to start picking up away wins in Europe if we want to be taken seriously in this competition
I migine this refreshing win had an effect on Lee and Jordan's camera setup, 4K today.
I agree--WHEN Havertz scores he is a big asset to the team. If you're looking for goals, he's the best 9 we've got. I get it. But if he doesn't score, does the team really look better with him than when Jesús plays decently? The problem is that Jesús hasn't played decently this season until yesterday, but you just do not get free flowing football to the same degree with Havertz. Also, like Lee said, Jesús is naturally an unselfish player--he tries to do what's best for the team.
That saka goal reminded me of a hungry alexis sanchez. Need to see him be direct stardust & take players kill teams on his own! He's more than capable. The Prince Of ARSENAL
Saka does it but I know he can hit 20s in prem alone easy
Havertz had an immense effect on this match…by sitting on the bench he allowed our team to be more fluid. What a move by the "striker". Just have him on the bench and we will win. Call it the reverse striker.
Jordan’s talent for being consistently inconsistent knows no bounds-he even brings it into real life. Case in point: a few weeks ago, we were set for a poker night, but it got cancelled last minute because, fittingly, he flopped.
Very good point from Jordan. Arsenal have only beaten City in the Charity Shield, and that wasn't all that prestigious.
I'm seeing a different side to Saka this season, He's putting himself forward as that guy. In his post match after the sporting game he said anyone could of got it 😂 he can tell we're cooking something
Tobi on the mob watch yesterday did a madness with a assist from
Turkish 😂😂😂😂😂
The signing of Mr Havertz is probably what has put ArseNil into a corner
1. He is not excelling at any one attribute or position
2. Transfer Fee was relatively high (financial Fair Play handicap) and then the wage bill
3. Forcing the team to play in a certain way, even an out of form but relatively mobile Gabriel Jesus brings a different dynamic ArseNil
Against Low blocks, Havertz is a waste
This is complete nonsense my guy
@@thedoctor2085 Lost me there doctor....you mean Mr Havertz is moving the team forward?
@@Targeting-Must-End Well, he moved us forward last season...
We scored a record number of goals with him starting as our striker. In fact we struggled in a few games when he wasn't playing in that position. He's far from the ideal striker and yes Gabi brings a different dynamic but you can't say he's better for the team than Kai. Certainly not more available.
The doctor ignore opinions of low level iq guy lol
In the Odegaard vs Ozil debate there are two conversations. Who was the more talented player and who would you rather build a team around. Ozil was always a luxury player, but I could never imagine him leading our press. It would be so easy to play through us with Ozil in this team. Odegaard does 80% of what Ozil did from an attacking standpoint, but then offers the pressing and leadership that Ozil could only dream of. With that said, Ozil was probably one of the last of a dying breed of 10s that truly played the game beautifully
Means nothing after that Liverpool win - relentless
I would like to see Odegaard in the 8 and Nwaneri in the 10........just for 1 or 2 games
“Dramatically” suddenly trending on X! 😅
Odegaard is nowhere near ozil techincally??? What a ridiculous statement
Like odegaard wasn't a wonderkid n ain't extremely gifted player
I agree bro
Humble humble Ehh Halaand
Brave football is all we’ve been asking for. Even if we lose at least let’s have that feeling of giving it all’
Lovely caption there: "Forest Cut Down To size"
Hold dat Lil Forest Bastads, we are the bigger club
We’re dramastically back!
Havert and martinelli got dropped because of the way they stood there and watch Pedro Neto score
Yesterday was one of our best defensive performance without parking the bus or lacking fluidity, and that's with ball playing Midfielders, and that's without Rice. but rice still has a big role to play especially in big games.