Stephen A. Smith explains why Jimmy Butler is NOT a superstar
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Jimmy Butler is the literal transition point between star and superstar. If you're better them him, you're a superstar. If you're not, you're a star or less.
Great take right here. ^^
Good take.
So all star then
Rite..
@@kesenaememere8520 All Star doesn’t really do him justice. That’s why OP’s point about calling Jimmy Butler the gatekeeper to being a superstar sums him up perfectly.
Jimmy Butler has had superstar performances but he's nowhere near as consistent as other superstars. I agree with SAS on this.
Wait, he's more available then kawhi Leonard and more consistent then AD. Both of those mentioned players are superstars. Math don't add up...
What about James harden? Far from consistent in the playoffs 🤔
@@rickyperez4898 are you trying to say Jimmy butler is better than harden?
@@lucidstudious750 Kawhi has two championships and 1 where he beat Jimmy Butler when he was in Philly. I don’t have a case for AD.
@@lucidstudious750math? 2 rings from Kawhi, 0 for Jimmy lol and Kawhi carried the raptors. Correct me if I’m wrong, Jimmy was also in the Philly team that he beat. 🤷🏽♂️
A star who has superstar moments
A superstar who coasts.
@@AquarianAngel he only bloomed this season but it was a whole season he had super star moments he may bring it next season
@@genesisz3419 No, he bloomed years ago.
Jimmy Butler should be the poster boy for intangibles, numbers alone can’t explain what makes him good.
But that’s what he got praised for right averaging 36 against bucks
I dont think people realize miami heat was never meant to make it this far. Butler is good, I think his only flaw is that he actually doesn't want to be a superstar. Like, he actually prefers to be a team guy more than anything. I think he hates the idea of being perceived better than his teammates. And I actually think he is doing more for the team than a superstar would.
good point actually
he led 2 teams to the finals by himself, virtually no help, bam aint shit, wtf durant do on his own?
On his own? Have you been watching the games this playoffs, disgusting casual
I will add to that the fact that he was one shot away from reaching the finals last year.
However, Bam was better during the 1st playoff run than this one.
Jimmy Butler would be the ULTIMATE championship team 2nd star. It's jus hard to see him winning a championship as a lead star.
@@Taylorwes1265 "It's jus hard to see (Jimmy Butler) winning a championship as a lead star."
It depends on who the second-best player is on that team, as well as the team depth. Bam Adebayo is more like a No. 3 option, maybe even a No. 4 option on a top-heavy team. Not to mention Miami's starting backcourt consists of two undrafted players.
If Jimmy Butler replaced Jayson Tatum in Boston, I can see Butler and that Celtics team winning a title. Butler's intensity and alpha dog mentality would mesh well with the likes of Jaylen Brown and Marcus Smart. Brown is a more capable No. 2 option offensively than Adebayo, while the likes of Robert Williams III and Al Horford can make up what Adebayo brings to the table. Smart, Derrick White and Malcolm Brogdon definitely are an upgrade over Miami's backcourt.
I agree, but saying Bam ain’t shit is bullshit after these finals. He was their best performer in the finals.
Stephen A. Smith, Jimmy Butler took that Miami team to the NBA Finals. That in itself is a hell of an accomplishment. Jokic and Murray were just too good. But Jimmy is a genuine Super Star!!!!
I can't agree more, I'm really offended by this front-running crap of a segment. Stephen A. should know better. This is in the vein of his former co-star, hideous Skip Bayless. Kick players when they're down, package and sell it as schadenfreude.
Who the heck is the video editor of Stephen A Smith, he looks like having a podcast in heaven.
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lol for real
Like I would expect him to do this if he were fired from ESPN, Tucker Carlson-style. Who needs the network I'll broadcast directly to the people! With my phone!
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His team needed him to step up but he was absent for most of the game. He only somewhat picked things up late in the 4th but at that point it was already too late.
It wasn’t too late they led the game at the end. He had two bad turnovers and was passing up open shots.
@@andrewgoldin6905bro, it was too late. He was AWFUL up until 5 minutes in the 4th quarter. He looked extremely passive and continued to rely on his role players to bail him out. He was not the Jimmy Butler we saw against the Bucks, Knicks, or Boston. He choked this series, straight up.
That's how he's been working for. A lot of the playoffs. Waits all the way until the 4th quarter to start going off. Ever since the Bucks series in round one.
@@Lordhavemercy96 we were up 1 with under 2 minutes left. You aren’t making any sense.
@@andrewgoldin6905 and we could’ve had a larger lead if he didn’t have 0 points in the 1st quarter and 0 points in the 3rd. AGAIN, it was too late.
He is a superstar, just in his own unique way. He does things that superstars dont like doing -defense and timly rebounds. Best way to think about it is if a guy we call a superstar like Booker or Dame can do this if they switched places…2 finals trips with a bunch of undrafted players..that’s insane in this nba. He beat the 1 seed, 2 seed, and 4th seed. Took the hardest road to reach where they are. Denver is too good but shouldnt discount what Jimmy has done in this run.
Do superstars get away with nor playing hard on defense these days? What happened to the days when MJ and Kobe would constantly get NBA first team all defense year in and year out?
For a guy who supposedly only plays during the playoffs he played only 8 games. Hes been a no show since game 4 of the celtics series.
Tough to know what to make of this playoffs from Jimmy. He’s probably gonna get into HOF for “carrying” this best team to finals. But he was probably injured and only scored 30+ once in the last 17 games. He averaged 23 ppg after the first round. Really confusing playoffs from him and the Heat.
@@morganzimmerglass9925 Jimmy Butler is also a six-time All-Star, five-time All-NBA and five-time All-Defensive team member in his career. He's been a top 15 to top 25 player for pretty much the past eight years.
@@morganzimmerglass9925 he aint first ballot thats for sure. But he'll be in the HOF
He’s showing right now in game 5 of the finals 6-12-23 why he’s not a superstar.
“Scored as many points as me in two games” 🤣🤣
This is the thing that grinds my gears. People say jimmy don’t have what it takes to get it done while he’s only been getting beat by teams who over more than one “Superstar/stars” but let Lebron lose and everybody crying saying he needs help when he has a legit superstar in AD. But he has been to either the conference Finals or the Finals 3 times in the Last 4 years with a teams very few weapons. Put some respect on his name.
Bron is a level or two above Jimmy and always been so he is expected to win. Giannis has the same expectations. Luka will eventually have championship expectations. Let’s be honest Jimmy never had Championship expectations. Jimmy is closer to Cp3 than Bron. Great, but probably never gonna get a ring being the guy.
Good point about baby James. He always seems to need more, even tho for the last decade or so he's had some of the best teammates ever
It's ridiculous
@BIG_TOE Raptors only had one superstar in 2019.
Bro chilllll u outta pocket and sound Foolish! First off stop bringing up lebron or anybody else without proper context, this scrutiny is actually a compliment to butler, because he's worked to get to this level of superstar praise which equally comes superstar criticism, so that alone shows your unfit for this discussion because nobody is picking on butler but we're highlighting the flaws that is clear as day to those who pay attention to the details! Butler hasnt been himself in the last 9 or 10 games of the playoffs and the fact that it hasnt been addressed but spoltra is ridiculous wherever jimmy's head is at it just cost them this championship which was THEIRS! Denver was the better talent Miami is the Better team but they lost because of jimmy and that is A FACT
I agree
Embiid, Tatum, Lillard, ADavis, and Booker have never done anything more impressive than what Jimmy has done with the Heat over the past 4 playoff runs as the leader. If Butler isnt a superstar then neither are those players.
Agreed
Well said!!!
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The man is literally hurt. That’s why he’s not having the performances. But the fact he can uplift undrafted players and turn them stars just by his presence on the courts shows how great he is
Jimmy has shown he can will a team more than Durant. KD only won by hopping onto the best regular season team ever. He couldn’t get it done with a stacked Thunder roster with Westbrook and Harden, a stacked Nets Roster, and a stacked PHX roster. You put LeBron on any of those teams and you know he’s going all the way.
has Lebron ever won a chip without stacking the deck? lebron Stacked the deck to win every one of his championships.
KD played in the west which was objectively tougher than the east was. Context matters.
@@BeastFueledLebron literally joined Finals MVP Wade and perennial all star Bosh. Stop this revisionist history.
@@piccolo5346 Where did I revise history? I didn’t know I said Lebron never joined a stacked team. Probably because I didn’t. Lebron joining the Heat was an unproven commodity. Proven talents but a team that hadn’t played together. The Warriors was the most winning team and KD, being considered to be either the best or 2nd best player at the time, joined that proven team. Let’s just, for the sake of the argument, nullify Lebron’s two rings with the Heat and KDs two with the Warriors. Lebron’s performances far out perform that of KD. When the Nets lost Harden KD fell apart. When the Cavs lost Love and Irving, Lebron carried his team to the finals and put on a performance where people thought he was deserving of the Finals MVP even though it was a losing effort. Context matters.
The effort it requires to reach the finals is tremendous, Jimmy got them there! An amazing accomplishment and a superstar caliber performance thus far but one person can’t get it done. All of the greats needed atleast a running mate. 🤷🏽♂️
He only did once this play off....Jokic doing it almost every game
@@25lighters91 he averaged 38 during the first round. that's not a one-time effort. he hasn't been as spectacular as the first round since, sure. and yes, jokic is a more consistently good player, and i think he's better overall.
that doesn't mean butler hasn't been putting work in
Tell me your young without saying it. Jimmy is no great and he never was.
Real Superstars get held to superstar standards, none of that at least he made it bs
@@vfrmtheo300 "Real Superstars get held to superstar standards, none of that at least he made it bs."
Tell that to the likes of Jayson Tatum and Joel Embiid, whom Stephen A. Smith calls "superstars." Better yet, tell that to Damian Lillard, who can't get a team to the playoffs as the lead player, yet Smith calls him a "superstar." Or Devin Booker, another Smith "superstar" who has crashed and burned in the playoffs badly the past two seasons.
There are levels to this , but i will say about all the guys you mentioned , they wouldn’t have took this heat team to the finals
ESPECIALLY KD lol
Damn yall really hurt cuz butler getting heat lol
@@fiveethamovement6649 no , I’m saying 2 things can be true at the same time
@@Geeandrezzi KD got to the finals at the age of 23, with dumb Russ and James Harden before he hit his prime. He don't have shit to prove. Just say you didn't start watching basketball until 2016.
@@smoothsavage2870 KD had a team full of talent in OKC, he didn’t “lead” them anywhere. He just had to score buckets. Learn how to comprehend before you get all in your feelings and emotional
Stephen A can't help himself but to debate a pointless topic at this point in the NBA playoffs/finals. What does it matter if he's a superstar or not? All of the other guys that he placed in the superstar category are home watching Butler. Once again Stephen A has to tear down guys (Butler) in a attempt to prove his point. Then he'll be the first one calling every black athlete/man his brother.
Jimmy has gotten this Miami team to the NBA finals with an 8 seed team that's missing their 2nd best scorer. Beating the #1 seeded Bucks, the Knicks & the Celtics. Yea he might not be KD but KD isn't getting this Heat team to any finals.
He made 2 nba finals and game 7 of ecf with that team. If anyone else does it they are super stars but hey.
If it was kd Stephen a would be prasing him
@@gmailgmail6234 that part
True
You can't be a superstar without consistency and reliability. I love Jimmy, he is a star and a great player, but lacks when it comes to high level performance consistency.
Stephen A. Smith is the same person who has called the likes of Damian Lillard, Devin Booker, Joel Embiid and Jayson Tatum "superstars," and they are all over the place with their performances. Let's not mention the likes of Kyrie Irving and Ja Morant, whom Smith calls "superstars" because of their flashy games and having lesser resumes than Jimmy Butler.
@@michaeljohnson7945 Thank you this right here and if im not mistaking im pretty sure Stephen A Smith has called Jimmy Butler a superstar before previously, so he's just being a hypocrite at this point. None of those guys are getting this same roster by themselves to where Butler has gotten them.
@@brrazzy8417 I believe Stephen A. Smith also has referred to Donovan Mitchell (another flashy player who has been past the first round once) as a superstar. Like I said, he's all over the place with his definition of "superstar."
Jimmy Butler just outplayed Lebron, AD, Tatum, and Joel EMVPitty. Those are superstars who were more inconsistent and unavailable then Jimmy so nah SA is a hater
@@michaeljohnson7945 Kyrie has a better resume than Jimmy Butler lol. Rookie of The Year, All Star 8x, All Star MVP and been to 3 finals.
Im glad somebody said it. Hes one of the best improved players from where he started getting killed by lebron in Chicago. But a superstar jimmy is not.
But you probably call Anthony Davis a Superstar let's keep the math even
Jimmy Butler reminds me of Rip Hamilton on those old Pistons teams. He can light you up. Just not consistent enough to be a superstar. He's a star for sure though. Miami not playing Duncan Robinson for at least 24 minutes a night killed them. He hit shots, and is a underrated playmaker for them.
That's a good comparison
Rip reminded me more of a reggie miller type.. Butler's more rounded then Rip but not nearly as good of a shooter... But his value to the team may be comparable to Rip... More then his playing style.
@@AdmirCustovic yeah I was moreso speaking on his impact and inside game. Rip got to the line a lot and was a midrange assassin running around those screens. He didn't shoot 3's as much as he should've, but back then no one did.
That's a stupid statement. Jimmy is a superstar period. He hasn't been the same since Hart karate kicked his ankle and those are facts
@@v3zMedia Yeah, you're right. Defenders must of hated playing Detroit because they would have to put the miles in that night. True about 3's. Shlt I remember we broke the record for keeping teams below 80 points some crazy number in a row and then NJ Nets broke the record and when they scored above 80 the crowd went crazy. Sheed then pointed to the jumbo tron and yelled scoreboard ☝
Your right, he's not like KD and Curry. Jimmy took a team to the finals by himself twice. How many finals have these other guys been in without other hall of farmers on their team? I'll wait
By himself is a stretch. Role players have stepped up tremendously. Look at the performances he's putting up. Scoring isn't everything but to be a superstar, and claim he's doing it by himself is outrageous. It's not like he's playing like "playoff Jimmy" for entire series. He's playing more like a role player for a good chunk of these games.
@@sindilacionKD and Curry have role players as well..where are they now?
@@lagniappe3926 you either have no clue how jimmy performs from game to game in the playoffs, or you did not comprehend a thing that was said.
He only scored 30+ once in last 17 games. And averaged 23 ppg after the first round. So he hardly carried this team after the first round. But history will probably remember it as him carrying the team because that would make the most sense for how a 7/8 seed made the finals. But it’s really not the case. To be fair he was probably injured.
Bruh you realize the role players on the heat team won them more games than jimmy did. You had multiple guys step up like bam Vincent strus robinson love Martin. Like come on dawg. Let’s not act like he did this by himself he had one great series against the bucks and then played average throughout the rest of the playoffs with like 2 good games sprinkled in there
If you believe that hard work should pay off, then idk why you would believe that Jimmy Butler isn't a superstar.
He gives more effort all around and expects more all around from his teammates.
His overall impact is & has clearly BEEN more than the other individuals that you call superstars.
Durant, Booker, Lillard, Tatum, and Kawhi can put up high points.
But they don't have the qualities of infectious competitive energy, high-level defense, energy, durability, and IQ all in ONE player.
All of those qualities, in a player that has WORKED his way to the top, is more than deserving of the tital of Superstar.
If you give it to players who DOESN'T check all the IMPACT boxes, then Butler should EASILY receive that tital.
It's ridiculous that player like KD, Booker, and Tatum can get that tital without winning the first championship, yet they all didn't have the same overall impact as butler.
If all around Butler needs to work to win a championship to prove he is a superstar, then clearly, other players that don't win one yet shouldn't be labeled as SUPERSTAR yet either.
The fact that the media can change the narrative but don't even give credit to where it's due is disgusting.
Examples of how valuable, impactful, all-around Butler IS, even compared to other players, has been shown from team to team for YEARS.
Consistently doing THIS, but seeing the media drive THIS. Is exhausting.
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This is all facts. Butler and the heat better get the respect they deserve. This is an 8th seed going all the way to the finals.
Jamal and jimmy are stars , the only difference is that jimmy is by himself and jokic is a true superstar and they have a squad..
Jimmy isn't by himself. The heat role players played very well.
@@757bigj forreal, Bam played his heart out. the best heat player in the finals.
Funny how quick y'all went from Playoff Jimmy to THIS.....I know it's FLUID🤦🏿♂️
It’s definitely fluid
Jimmy Butler is so inconsistent asf
@@exa0247 But those big-time nicknames didn't come from Himmy Butler. It came from Kendrick Perkins and Jalen Rose and them.
He's a superstar in the postseason. No one can deny the ankle injury bothered him. Just watch his stats before and after the injury
I never bought into the hype that Jimmy was ever a superstar, he played like a superstar in 2 or 3 postseason runs, other than that he’s just been a really nice player at a star level. Nobody ever mentions when he got swept in the first round of the 2021 playoffs while averaging 14 ppg on 29% shooting lol.
Jimmy Buckets is a Hall of Famer. Period.
He doesn’t have another super star to allow him to be great like all these other dudes you can’t say he ain’t because he is
there are 'Different Types' of a Superstar. This Convo is hilarious.
There is only one type of superstar in my book. Generation type of talent. And to be a superstar. You need the stats to back it up. Butler career high is what Luka averaged his rookie season. Lebron, Durant , curry, Luka, jokic, kobe, Shaq. All generational talents. Once in a life time. We have plenty of Jimmy butlers.
Calling Jamal a superstar and not Jimmy is crazy
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If he’s a superstar, why was everybody complaining about the lack of superstars in this years finals matchup? You can try to lie to yourself and convince yourself that Jimmy is a superstar, but his game and his numbers don’t support that. He’s a star, and I’m a fan, but he’s not on that level
neither are superstars
Murray is a star like Jimmy is, but jokic only superstar there. SAS tripping on that one
@@BigZoe99 I think Jamal Murray could be if he stepped up his game more so throughout the regular season.
He's a superstar in the playoffs only. I don't understand why he's escaping so much criticism in these finals. People were eating Tatum alive last year and I don't hear any of it for Jimmy. Same standards please!
As a lifetime Heat fan I’m salty and watching this after the Nuggets won the chip. Jimmy is a star but not a superstar & neither is Jamal Murray cut it out Stephen A. Jimmy has struggled scoring and made so many bad decisions and played scared offensively literally second guessed himself so many times in the finals smh
Stephen a smith is banned from bringing hoes to dinner in miami late af
Yeah jokic is the only superstar in these finals
@Midassi Ghassen yes Murray is
Thanks Stephen A you are always correct and on Point. Because Folks keep using this term so loosely he really think he is a Super Star😂😂😂😂😭😭😭😭💀🤦. Look at all the Super Stars , first of all they are not that cocky. They let their games speak for them. 😂❤❤❤
Wow wow wow do I disagree. OBVIOUSLY Butler was hurt-- you don't randomly go from wild 50+ point games to only having enough to try a run in the last 5 minutes. That's called being hobbled and preserving energy.
In the Playoffs Jimmy is a Superstar. If you call Giannis and Tatum a Superstar then you call him a Superstar. Because he beat both their asses with a much weaker team and has a far more important impact on his team. Very few players can take an 8 seed all the way to the finals. Respect
So Jimmy drags a play in team of mostly undrafted players, without their 2 best scorers all the way to the Finals and runs into a fully healthy juggernaut, and now he's no longer a superstar? Sports media and their narratives...
Butler was terrible in these finals. So disappointing, love his game. Thought it was the ankle but he seemed to be getting air.. But maybe. Still, so many bad drives ending up under the basket. The dude just looked lost. What happened Jimmy??
8points in 3qtr
@@jahkaisaunders3682 Yuup 8pts in 35min those 8ot were all from the FT line too.
Gordon was bigger and stronger than most of the players he played against in the ecf. So that may be half of the reason. But he also got a lot of switches and got to his spots. He just didn’t have it this game.
He was too passive
@@oaklandtraphouse I agree
youre the best Stephen A!
How his meat taste?
Im just gonna say this he was the key man on a 8th seed /play in team that got to the finals. He also went up against the unstoppable force known as jokic . He literally was moving bam like a rag doll . In rhe playoffs he was for sure a superstar . They lost but the journey was something else he was probably hobbled from the injury he had against rhe knicks . Look if his teammates down the stretch could make shots they maybe are champs. Like lets be real if the heat could make shots those games in Miami were close for parts they maybe win those with some shooting
Great coaching by Malone sometimes better coaching and bigger players motivation can bring down your numbers but not everyone's not Jordan
This should be obvious. Especially when you break down game to game. The whole playoff Jimmy thing is completely overblown given his history.
You don’t know nothing about basketball 🤦🏽♂️….just sit this one out
@@YoungSlim72 "you don't know ball" that response is played out. Do you have an actual breakdown on why you disagree?
you mean getting to the NBA Finals 2 of the last 3 years?
@@KennnnyT Game to game playoff performance.
@Ken123168 and losing we don't care if you get there you lost at the end of the day
Jimmy is a star that’s getting exposed by true superstars. Yes Jimmy can get hot and have a great game but the Heat’s success has been really due to the role players and he’s been the closer. But now that the role players are struggling Jimmy looks regular but truth is he is regular he just has moments.
Exposed?! Please.
With Miami he beat the Bucks and Celtics twice to reach the finals.
How come his “exposure” didn’t prevent him from beating them twice?
2 finals and 1 ecf game 7 in 3 years. Name a better resume
He's never ever been on a faviorite to win team...Always the underdog, it's not getting exposed when your expected to lose. When you have less talent around you than your matchups. Nuggets had way more talent. To simply say Jimmy got exposed, is a lack of basketball knowledge
Guess KD and Booker also got exposed. LeBron and AD got exposed too they didn't even win one game they got swept.
@@Rainz_00 yea they did get exposed. The difference is they been established themselves as superstars
1:42 Dream in the background behind Murray and Coach Malone 😂
Oh, here we go again! So, you’re saying we need to stack star players again to win a chip?! Nope! The game is more compelling and satisfying when you have your star players home grown and developed. Just a thought.
That would mean Jason Tatum isn’t a superstar either then…. They’re both inconsistent.
He good but I remember in Chicago they said he wasn't a number one option now everyone riding him
Thank you!
He showed it tonight..I forgot he was on the team..
Bro every team he been on has got worse without him. He is a superstar that could use a legit number 2 .
It depends what your criteria of a superstar is. If we are just talking strictly scoring no he will not score a lot as consistent as others we claim to be superstars. But no one has ever won a chip with an underwhelming team while going up against a really good team. So imagine if butler was on a really good team that compliments him well, it be a different narrative because the man is a two way swiss army knife player. I dont think a superstar should be exclusive to someone who can score a lot of points consistently. Jimmy checks the boxes in a lot of other categories that can be deemed as what makes a superstar.
If butler was on a really good team. He wouldn’t be the best player on the team. No one call Jaylen brown a superstar. Butler is in the same category as Paul George. A good second co star. And that’s not a bad thing. Please list me a team that you can build around Jimmy that is likely to win championship with him as best player.
@@Tl-mh7gq a “good second co-star” doesnt carry a play in seed with 6 undrafted players on the team to the finals but go off
@@Tl-mh7gq Look at the team Jimmy Butler took to two NBA Finals and three Eastern Conference finals over four years.
Bam Adebayo would be a No. 3/No. 4 option on most other title contenders, but he's the second-best player in Miami.
Kevin Love and Kyle Lowry are way past their primes, and they played important roles on this team.
The Heat were depending on several undrafted players (Duncan Robinson, Caleb Martin, Gabe Vincent, Max Strus, Haywood Highsmith) to play significant roles.
Swap Butler with Jayson Tatum in Boston, and Boston would be a championship team. Butler's intensity and alpha dog mentality would complement Jaylen Brown and Marcus Smart better than Tatum, who looks clueless at times. And Butler is better than Brown (who last I saw, has never led a team as the lead player).
@@TH-camLyfe check his stats. 22-5-5. I don’t know any championship teams with a player averages that bad. Name me a starting line up that is predicted to win a championship with him as best player.
@@michaeljohnson7945 bro butler is not better then brown. You can’t be call a super star with averages of 22-5-5 as your career highs. Brown averaged more then him as a second option. U need superstar stats to be a super star.
Top tier ish per usual. Best in the biz
There’s only 3 superstars in the league. YOUR problem is you’ve been giving credit to potential players like Ja Morant.
there are only about 5 or so true SUPERSTARS in my opinion. In order to qualify you have to have an MVP, All Star selection, All NBA selection, and at least one championship (finals mvp not required). Jimmy is elite, he’s an all star and a great playoff time number one option, but he’s not a superstar.
AD is not a superstar
@@chad4326 no sir, AD isn’t a superstar he has no mvp, and jokic will be one once they win this series. Lebron is still a superstar you can’t lose your status cause the accolades are already there
Not to mention Stephen A. Smith is inconsistent with his definition of a "superstar." He's called players with flashy games who he discusses a lot such as Ja Morant, Damian Lillard and Kyrie Irving "superstars" even though they don't have the resume of Jimmy Butter. He also has called the likes of Joel Embiid, Devin Booker and Jayson Tatum "superstars."
He’s proving you right so far
3 Times in 4 Years he went with the Heat deep in the Championchip. Stephen A youre simply blind to not realise it + playing with a swollen Ankle with 33 years of Age wont help him vs the Nuggets. Jimmy is a Superstar. Stephen A be changing his Opinions on Players like i my Underwears
He’s a superstar in the playoffs. He was obviously injured, he was wincing and obviously limping. I know we have short term memories, but wasn’t his ankle injury very bad by all accounts? Isn’t it obvious how is play hasn’t been the same since he came back?
If you look at his playoff performances since coming to Miami, I don’t think you can find more than 5 players you would want in the playoffs when healthy.
Jimmy tries to talk like one with his worthless guarantees.
Theres nothing wrong with saying hes not a superstar. Seriously, the NBA only has 5-8 "Superstars". Hes a Star. But he aint at the mountain top, just yet
List them
@@kizitoamuchie5540 curry,kd,embiid,jokic,Giannis, lebron. Those are the only indisputable superstars in the league
if we’re talking about superstar as in “best player on a title winning team”, 8 might be pushing it
the list is probably shorter
Superstars are the box office guys please
Why does someone have to be shit on because the team is better that they are playing. Man led a team of scabs to the finals against some good teams.
Signed
A nuggets fan
I think its kind of weak to call an older Jimmy Butler not a superstar because he lost the finals after going crazy the whole playoffs. Wild take.
Stephen A was on point with this one!
Can’t listen to SAS who said he’d take AD over Jokic
@@stephonaugustin1384 that was then. This is now...
@@wolfbane047 still wrong
@@stephonaugustin1384 about Jokic or about Butler?
Been saying it for years. He's a star, not a superstar. He's probably as far as you can go as a star without being a superstar. And that's not bad, it just the truth. He's a great player, and one of my favorites. 🥈
Y'all are hypocrites. Jimmy Butler was more consistent and available then Kawhi Leonard, Lebron James, Anthony Davis, Klay Thompson, Joel eMVPitty, James Harden, and arguably KD
All of these players are superstars so either you revoke their superstar status or cut the bs
@@lucidstudious750 We'd be having a different conversation if Jimmy was a champion like most of the people you just mentioned, but we're not, because he isn't. And AD, Klay, and James Harden are not, and never have been considered superstars. These guys are capable, but are ultimately unable to get their teams across the finish line.
Kawhi and KD had their time and Joel still has time to make his case. You can't deny that it just takes something EXTRA to be a superstar - some have that something, some don't. It is what it is.
@@clshady3051 lol Joel? You mean that man who has never been to the NBA finals while Jimmy has been there twice? Like just say you are biased tf. Embiid aint no superstar, he ain't even been to the Finals yet
@@clshady3051 When didn't people consider James Harden a "superstar?" Harden not only has been considered a superstar, but many people have argued that he's one of the best shooting guards in NBA history and one of the best players of the past 20 years.
@@KennnnyT I been following Jimmy since his days in Chicago. He's one of my favorite players. And I didn't say Joel was a superstar - I said he still has a chance to prove himself. I'm not closing the door on him yet, personally. Jimmy, though? I feel like he's had plenty of chances to prove that he's on THAT level.
this is a terrible take, I can understand the points but the timing of this is super convenient and on top of that the takes really aren't that profound. Let's be real, Jimmy is mentioned in the top 15 in the league ever since the finals appearance in the bubble. He worked really hard and the better team won, there is no shame in that. its not about one person its about EVERYONE else. Giannis and the bucks got crushed by the heat, I understand he was hurt but still it further proves you need people around you. denver was just the better team, they were essentially unstoppable these play offs. To say Jimmy isnt a superstar is INSANE, beat boston, beat Milwaukee, goes toe to toe with joker (someone who had stomped every other team thus far). Give Jimmy his graces, he is a unselfish, amazing scorer who knows exactly when its his time. may have not played the best in the finals but then what about Jason Tatum, AD, Lebron, Giannis, Joel. Jimmy is an absolute undisputed SUPERSTAR, PERIOD
Goes toe to toe with the joker? That's a bit of a stretch now.
The 3 point shot has nullified the generic superstar, unless that star is Steph. Jimmy can shoot 50% on drives, 20 shots, 10 makes, 20 points. If the other teams shoots 40% on three they only need 16 shots to have more points(21)...they only need to shoot 7 of 16 to out pace the other teams star. They also spread the floor, open the lane and improve shooting at the rim. If you shoot 40% on three on 20 shots, you end up with 25 points...and outscore the star. That is why the superstar creating three point shots is the most important step in the league today. Heat had to outshoot Denver to win, they had about a 5% chance to do that so they lost.
Jimmy plays team basketball. He doesn't care if people think he is a superstar or not.
If Jimmy Butler isn’t a superstar, then neither is Dame thinking
Stephan A. with all do respect if Jimmy Butler was in Jason Tatum's place this year or last year he'd have a ring or 2
i have been saying this for 3 years he is not a superstar just the best player on his team!
Who is the better player:
Jimmy Butler, James Harden or Andrew Wiggins???
Jimmy Butler may not be a SUPERSTAR but he is very capable of outplaying several SO CALLED SUPERSTARS. Real Talk! Mr.Stephen A Smith.
People who love numbers don’t understand how bad the heat look on the court. 4:01
Dude was saying he might be the best player in the world when he dropped 50 against the Bucks.
0:47 was Love trying to pinch his nipple 😂😂
What is the superstar criteria?
He’s taken his team to the nba finals twice he’s a superstar 🤷🏿♂️
I disagree. I think Jimmy Butler is super star because of what he did in the East against other Super Stars in Boston and Philly, when it mattered.
This is why we have a culture to bash on people who didn't win vs just celebrating the winners.
This dude led a Heat team that doesn’t stick out on paper and that no one expected to get to the finals twice, was getting heaps of praise throughout the first three rounds for being Michael Jordan son because of his play, runs into a well oiled Denver machine led by joker and Murray and the topic is whether he is a star or superstar smh 🤦♂️
The jimmy slander is wild, why would you even compare him to Lebron.. Still Jimmy led his team to the finals twice. To say Jimmy isn't a superstar is flat out wild...Getting to the finals means something and being the best player on said team means something. Embied ain't a superstar than, Harden ain't, Tatum ain''t since we comparing players to lebron and curry. Dbook can't be superstar if Jimmy isn't, he has more final appearances....
He’s right
Lillard compounds Miami's problems - SIZE!
Smh Stephen A acting like this man isn’t playing with a messed up ankle . He has not been the same since getting injured in Boston. Stop it
I like SAS, but this is ridiculous. Jimmy Butler IS A SUPERSTAR. Look at what he has done is his career, let alone this season. This postseason is proof that we need to put more respect on Butlers name.
He went to the finals twice..he's a superstar
he just cant win it all
Jimmy Butler has done what Lebron was always praised for; taking a bunch of guys no one expected much from to the finals. Lebron won when he had other superstars with him, but lost to TEAMS having an all time run. Same with Jimmy. He is a superstar, the only thing needed is the drama that the media wants. He is too focused on basketball only and that's the issue.
Butler is not a Super Star, he's just a star that's it. Butler knows what players he can take advantage on but when it gets tough he shrinks. He's just a Midlevel star. Booker is way better they at least Beat the Nuggets in two games without a good bench and Booker had an answer to find a way to score. For Butler to win they NEED a true Super Star and a 40-45% 3 Point shooter
These Heat dudes should not be in the NBA man.....
Jimmy Buckets is a sixth man energizer In every generation but this one hes the best player...?
Cmon now...
Bam deserve his flowers he a star
Two weeks ago he was playoff Jimmy. Y'all was saying that he shines in the post season. Make up your mind
Pure facts.
Jimmy isn't a superstar. Hes a dawg! NO ONE had Miami in the Finals. 2 play in games, beat a Milwaukee and Boston teams that were picked 1 and 2 to go to the Finals. Get that man his respect. His team beat teams with certified superstars. That term is watered down in this league anyway...
Facts !!
Max Strus is like Cinderella who returned back to the pumpkin without the slipper. Lol 😆 🤣 😂
why do you keep saying Denver has two stars & Miami only has one . I've heard you say multiple times that Bam is the second start on the Heat?.... both teams have 2 stars
People let be real, do you think even Jordan could have won with that Miami team against Jokic, Murray and that Denver supporting cast?. Jimmy is a superstar but any player will be re-dimension on against the Denver.
You said it all: The Denver were bigger and that reduce his game as LeBron.
Its a very weird one to label because he always finds a way to take his teams far. My label for his is a part time superstar
he list down superstars like Lebron, Curry, KD, and Jokic to justify Jimmy is not superstar… well fair enough, but what the hell is he bringing Jamal as superstar ? he always said Damian Lillard is superstar, how many times did he play in finals ? Last time Dame played WCF is because of CJ showing up in Game7 against Denver. After that, what did Dame do ? Com’n man… no disrespectful to Dame. But calling out a player like Jimmy who already done that and is doing that right now is just disrespectful
Stephen A. Smith's definition of "superstar" also includes flashy players, such as Kyrie Irving (doesn't make teams better and brings drama) and Ja Morant (never has played past the second round of the playoffs), who have accomplished less than Jimmy Butler. And then don't forget the likes of Jayson Tatum (inconsistent from game to game) and Joel Embiid, who also can't get out of the second round of the playoffs. And don't forget Devin Booker, who has crashed and burned the past two seasons in the playoffs.
@@michaeljohnson7945 I see, I think in modern era, this guy superstar that guy superstar. But these guys ain’t doing a thing…. To me, superstars are players who have done something (at least been to finals once and that player is the main reason) and the player help to sell the ticket. To me, what have the player done is weighted more than the ticket. But it is what it is….