SNES DOOM - Mike Matei Live
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 23 ส.ค. 2024
- Playing DOOM for Super Nintendo and then a few Mario NES hacks afterwards. I went through the Knee Deep in the Dead campaign. The music is great on this port. The graphics... you can barely see the enemies. Mario hacks I played: Nerarious Dreams, Super Mario Skycastle
#doom #mikematei #snes #supernintendo #mario #supermariobros
The fact that this and Street Fighter Alpha 2 are able to exist on super nintendo is an absolute technical miracle.
SNES especially with the VFX was way ahead of its time. Could prob play most 32 bit platformers like Symphony of the Night etc
Why? I thought doom was proven to run on anything? Didn't it even run on a neo geo?
I agree, I saw a video of the guy that ported this game, he explains how he did it. There were so many challenges he had to overcome because of the limitations of the snes, a lot of them were explained in the video. The fact the he got it to run even this good is just amazing
Edit: Actually if I remember the interview, this isn't really a port I think since the source code wasn't available yet. He remade the game by reverse engineering it, which makes it a lot more impressive
@@Skilful_basics8 It was just a lot harder to port Doom back then, especially on a console with half the bits to work with. Surely someone would have done it eventually, but it was impressive how quickly Randy Linden was able to port this thing to SNES while Doom was still in its heyday.
They managed to port street fight alpha 3 to gba, and it's actually not bad!
Mike always looks like he either just woke up, or never sleeps.
And he hangs from the ceiling
Is he a robot? Does he bleed white liquid when you hit him?
Mike pretty clearly has a problem with “uppers”.
I remember watching my friends older brother play this and I was amazed at the time. You have to put yourself in that time to understand
Whenever I see original DOOM content it's a throwback to the good ol' PC times, when I used WADED to create maps for my friends to play deathmatch, which took hours: time in the makin' time in the playin'
I love Doom but I'm absolutely shit at the Super Nintendo version and I don't know why. But I do like playing with the mouse it's amazingly fun
Ever played doom delta?
When this game came out, I had a 386sx-16 PC, so even after a 4MB upgrade, the game barely ran. For SNES owners without a 486 or higher, it was amazing to be playing this on the console. I played it all of the way through, and was honestly surprised later on when I played the PS1 version that this had more accurate level geometry.
Doom must be in the air. I'm currently playing Doom Eternal!
All things considered, this is amazing for the snes
Still unplayable.
Mike thanks for posting my guy! Your content is gold.
Let me know how much of this stream you can watch. The enemies are impossible to see lol
There's a few Mario hacks at the end.
@@mikematei love the Mario hack
@@mikematei How do you fancy SNES Wolfenstein?
With all WWII insignia removed?
@@mikematei also bring back the doom Mario hack, please finish the Mario doom hack if your up for it. It has great visuals and sound.
@@mikematei doom mario hack please mike!! we need doom mario
Perfect timing I just sat down to eat
Let me know what parts you liked lol. What are you eating? I'm eating cauliflower rice haha
Haha! Me too
My first IBM PC was from 1991. A 386DX 40. It plays Doom at a slightly slower frame rate than the SNES made in 1990. So, from that perspective, this port is reasonably successful
Nice! This is the Doom, I owned growing up. Back in those days you learned to love it.
nah, back in the days you played it for 10 seconds, was very disappointed and/or laughed at it, and never played it again
I was just thinking as he said he was getting used to it, if was probably quite playable if it was the only version you ever had! It’s like me with Rayman 2, the copy I played is considered the weakest cos it has a lot of content cut, but it’s my favourite version even having now played others with the full content!
@@mojebi3804 your weakness is amusing
@@mojebi3804 tell us you didnt actually game back in the day without telling us you didnt actually game back in the day
@@Ronbotnik I did game back in the day and that's how I know. This game never belonged on the SNES. What are you mad about exactly?
I’m a pretty novel Doom fan, I’m eager to see how far he gets!
EDIT: Also wanted to say I’m loving the Shorts you release, they’re pretty much the only ones I watch cos so many are kitschy. I generally learn something each Short!
Edit 2: wasn’t ready for the fartsaw and all the thirsty viewers 🙈
I had been playing this on a 486 SX online with my buddy for two years once this came out.
I don't know what the PC was I had back in 1991-1992. I saw something similar at the Magfest computer museum though.
Wonderful to see something you grew up with in a MUSEUM. LOL
@@mikematei it was probably 1993 but my buddy and I both had our own phone lines for our computers. Doom didn’t have the ability to connect natively so we had to experiment with a bunch of modem initialization codes in Telex and then run Doom. Took about six hours to get it right and we played while we talked on the phone the whole weekend. “Is that you? OMG! That’s me!!!” Good times.
I played DOOM online on my PC with friends maybe twice back then.
@@mikematei we had a forum on our Renegade BBS for member submitted maps. Shit was pretty geek.
this actually got my mind thinking Mike.
Have you played the N64 and PS1 ports of Quake and Quake 2?
Please do this Mike
@@P__114 what do you prefer?
The most “impossible” port ever officially made?????
I’d enjoy playing it just for the sheer novelty lol. It’s just so amazing that Doom is running at all on a 16 bit console! And hey, at least the music is good 👍
We make fun of how it is on SNES, but imagine how mind blowing it would have been if Doom first came out on SNES. Especially if it had been designed from the ground up for SNES.
I have a story for you Mike.
When I was 10 years old, I got this game for my anniversary.
I've put the game on my SNES, launch it, then, when I heard the scream of the first enemy, I shat my pants so hard that I barely managed to kill it and then I immediately stopped the game.
I didn't played this game again for the next 3 years, where I finally had the balls to play it.
And I enjoyed every moment of it.
Man, i have to say...being 11-12 playing this for the first time, I called up the guy I borrowed this from basically hyperventilating after I beat the cyberdemon. I also remember stopping at E1M7 being too scared by its suspenseful music and overwhelming, open layout full of baddies to even continue playing. Looking back it's pretty goofy but this game legit scared me as a kid!
'Anniversary' in English means the date you got married to your partner during a previous year. You probably did not get married as a child. I realize that in French and Portuguese the word for 'birthday' is similar to 'anniversary' though.
@@miesvaillanykyisyytta3252 I meant birthday.
What made this version so interesting, its the product of a guy who wrote a custom engine on a devkit that he built from a hacked up SFX cartridge and a Commodore Amiga.
Yeah you could send this guy back to ancient Rome and he'd figure out how to build a steam engine and a railroad. It might be clunky, but it'll run.
Mike, you’re the man.
I am sure this is the first version of Doom I attempted to play.... it did not go well. Thanks for the memories Mike
Did you get rekt?
I don't understand how people played Doom on consoles at all. This is a PC game and everyone was sharing it with everyone because the first episode was shareware. 90% of the fun was mods and making your own levels. Having this on a console is just pointless. I guess it should be for people with no computers ONLY.
I recall making it really far in this game. It looked much better back in the day on a 19 inch TV. It is not great but it was a way to play Doom at home for those of us that did not have a PC. I do remember how bad the turning and graphics were compared to playing it on the PC in shop class. I enjoyed this on the SNES.
Did you know gaming with Mike Matei: "Miyomoto put a mic against his asshole and farted into it to give us the blarg sound effect."
SNES Doom might have it’s downsides, but there are some huge positives to this port if you didn’t have a PC or a PlayStation at the time; it’s the only console port that doesn’t butcher the level architecture or textures, the only port that includes all 3 episodes with all the secret levels intact, the only port with all weapons and enemies present including the Cyberdemon and Spider Mastermind. Plus the music is god tier. It was my only choice back in the day and I got good at it, beat all 3 episodes even though ep3 is a hair pulling nightmare.. if you die once and lose your weapons and ammo might as well call yourself fukt’
This version is so ultra pixelated, it will ruin your eyesight lol
The gba version looks even worse
@@Metal-Gear-Moogle Looks better on CRT
True gamers never have good eyesight to begin with...I kid. LoL
I know this port is gimped as far as resolution and textures go but it still amazes me that this is running on a freaking SNES and is still pretty playable. Especially on a low res CRT back when it was released.
All thanks to the British making it possible
@@girlsdrinkfeck you mean Japanese. Nintendo is in Tokyo.
@@eskanda3434 no... FX chip is British invention
If they smoothed out the walls and you didnt get stuck all the time it would have been way better
19:40 he got hit by a shotgunner outside whose head was barely above the wall.
Just want to point out that isn't a snes port issue that happens in basically every version of the game.
Best version of music out of all the other systems
I think 3DO surprisingly had amazing music too. (Even if the game was shit)
People love the horror-styled redux Playstation music too
@@mikematei It was the one saving grace of the 3DO port. The gameplay itself was a fucking slideshow.
Can't believe I took the time to finished this game on the snes when I was younger.
Soundtrack for doom was always amazing, glad snes did it justice
This was actually the first version of doom i ever played and beat
The difference in how certain weapons work is interesting particularly the bfg.
This version has more of a survival horror vibe particularly with how movement works and the fact monsters don't infight
Damn this really is the best doom version lol
I played the ever loving piss out of snes doom in my day and I loved it lol
I rented this version back when it was new. Back then, I didn't have a computer that could handle Doom so it was a joy just to be able to play it in some capacity. Same with the 32x version. But there's really zero point in going back to this or the 32x version today- the many ports for modern consoles (plus GZDoom for PCs) are all you need.
What kind of PC did you have? Doom ran on a 486! I had two 486's at the time. One 33mhz and one 66mhz. Worked like a charm on both. 33mhz was upstairs and "mine". My dad would upgrade the main family computer first, then stick the older one upstairs, which I was on most of the time. We had them networked together, and internet was only possible downstairs. I had to download a bunch of stuff during the night and copy it upstairs to play around with during the day because my parents didn't let me go online before 9pm.
@@anonamatron iirc I rented these Doom ports right before I got a mac performa. I can't remember how Doom ran on the performa, but I do remember it ran just fine on a bondi blue imac years later.
I always loved this version of Doom, warts and all. The SNES got some fun PC ports back in the day like this, Civilization, Wing Commander, etc.
For those interested, Digital Foundry did a really interesting interview with the guy that worked on the SNES port of Doom. It’s fascinating to look back and see how he pulled it off.
All that said: loving the content, Mike! Keep up the great work.
i remember playing this as a kid at a friends house and thinking it was weird compared to the PC version
Yeah the PC version is the real version. It is very weird.
@@mikematei besides the visuals the controls just felt super sluggish in comparison as well, like that feeling when one tries to throw a punch in a dream.
Growing up as a console peasant, this was my introduction to Doom. I finally got to see what the fuss was all about and I loved it. Played the sh-t out of this game.
My friend said to forget about SNES DOOM and wait for DOOM 64. Good advise but Im glad I got the SNES version I would not wanna miss it ever.
I Loved Snes Doom as a young teen I could not afford a PC and this was one of my favorite games on Snes.
It's popular to hate on this port now but I would rather play Snes Doom than either Doom Saturn or Doom 3DO.
Its impressive they got the game on snes and there are some positive aspects to it. Id like to play the other ports on stream as well, the crappier the better.
Drinking coffee and watching Mike play snes Doom in October, seriously what more could a man ask for? don't blame him for giving up on it tho, the frame rate alone makes that game damn near unplayable, if i could say one good thing about it aside from the music its that at least they kept the blood red instead of changing it to green, i fucking hate it when they do that shit.
Mario hacks rarely fail to yield gold from Mike Matei XD Nice bonus on top of this SNES Doom run -LinkToTheShaft▲
I see Doom and I see Mike Matei
And I upvote, and I bang my head 🤘🔥
This was my introduction to Doom.
The game was awesome! I beat every single level out of it and had tons of fun.
Theres 3 hidden levels, one on each Episode...
Played and beat this one before I got the Mac version. Enemies run around like pong balls after you die and never stop facing you; it's pretty unsettling.
Hey Mike I was watching you play Doom on SNES. What are your thoughts on the hit-scanning in that game?
I played Snes Doom, i was too technologically ignorant of how sh!tty the game play was. But i somehow was able to beat it, working with the low frame rate.
As a kid, I used to call Toys R Us every day for an entire summer asking if they had Doom for SNES. They never did and never would. Looking back, it's disheartening to realize not one person working there had the courtesy to even help me order it somehow or anything. I still think the red cartridge is so bad ass.
I remember Suncoast video was good about letting you order stuff. Whenever they didn't have a movie, the girl that worked there would pull out the book and order the tapes.
As fond as everyone is for Toys R US (I am too) I do remember the employee's could be dicks. The person that worked inside the game booth was super impersonal and cold.
Like rolling their eyes "Here's your game you little brat" as if their shit didn't stink.
@@mikematei i shit in my sink
@@mikematei One of the many reasons Toys R Us went under. It also didn't help that every location they had was in a strip mall inside an urban demilitarized zone.
We rented this. The only way you can get through it is to try to remember where the enemies are and shoot blindly hoping to hit them. You really cant see shit!
Play a whole season of madden. That’s shit got me.
One of my goals is to own every Doom console port, even if it means buying a Jaguar and 3D0 just for their versions of Doom.
Do not get a 3do it is not worth it
I'm probably the most familiar with this port. I had DOS Doom and preferred playing it but the computer was in a common area in the house, whereas my SNES was in my room.
Thank you for blacking out the commenters name. (who totally isn't me) ^_<
I was surprised that you did it on ultraviolence, considering that there's so many instances where the game doesn't allow you to mitigate damage. Either because the framerate is so poor, or from the sticky walls. The biggest issue though is that damned input delay. I watched this the other day on your twitch uploads, and I fired up the game as well. I'm quite familiar with Doom, but I haven't played this port since I was a kid. And this was my first actual introduction to Doom.
I certainly remembered the muddy, aliased graphics, and the optimistic 8 frames per second, but the input latency was something I didn't quite remember. It practically takes eons to see the result of a shot or a strafing step.
I salute you for making it through, because once the novelty of Doom on Super wears off, I too would have quit, and hooved the cartridge into the nearest landfill.
As bad as doom on the SNES might be I still find it it to be a technical achievement that the SNES can even handle a version of Doon at all. Yes it is mainly possible because of the super FX chip but it's still a technical achievement.
Hell yeah man! I hate to say it, but this version of Doom, was my first introduction. It was awesome at the time. But it's terrible now LOL. Getting ready to watch this now 👍🏻
I actually really enjoyed doom on the 32x.
my buddy had it on snes and i didnt like it as much
Perfect timing I just sat down on the toilet .
It puts PS1 Doom to shame. 😂
There's actually a patch that adds circle-strafing functionality.
The game's source code was released a couple years ago, so I'm sure they'll be more quality-of-life patches in the near future.
Nice, thanks for the play!
Like Mike said “ME DUMB”. Look, I could never program this myself but this slow ass version is such a piece of crap 🤣 Hurts to see Nintendo even allowed this piece of crap to release
you have to understand the SNES was a 2d machine. It's 3d capacity was extremely limited, even with the FX chip. Starfox looks like total crap now, just a few polygons and linear map, and a low resolution backdrop. Doom was way more complex. also the SNES version had more maps and enemies than most other version of that time
It sounded like Nintendo Power had asked in a previous issue what readers wanted to see more of and less of, and featured a couple responses.
I remember hating this version back in the day.
This game still gives me a migraine in watching but what an amazing fleet for SNES pulling it off. I've only beat it once but took me awhile. Love the channel! I've been having fun with Doom 64 this month.
3:00:03 Fake Bowser falling into the the water AT THE END OF A WATER LEVEL, YEAH BABY!
I can't wait to see Mike one night try at the SNES Doom hacks that do like some of the 4th episode levels from ultimate Doom and Doom II.
I don't see what's so bad about this version.
Cons: The resolution is really low. You can barely make out the enemies. The frame rate is terrible. Sometimes get stuck on walls. Very slow ability to turn around.
Pros: The music. The fact that it even runs on a SNES is amazing.
Mike. I think you would love Sigma Star Saga on GBA. It's a SHMUP/RPG with a bunch of fun power ups.
It has a ton of text, he hates games with a lot of reading required
I get impatient. I just want the game to start. And there are so many other games other there I could be playing where it just starts that I could be playing instead. How about Donut Dodo. I can just play. If I want to read a book I have stacks of them in my house.
@@mikematei Dang. Now I'm sad.
@@mikematei What is it with GBA games though? So many of them have hindering amounts of text. Why? None of it is any good.
I couldn't help but notice that on your GBA variety streams. I'd go as far as to say that most of the games have minutes of pointless text before they ever allow you to just play the goddam game. And on a portable system no less. It's supposed to be for quick gaming while you're on the go. But then you're stuck there, button mashing through poorly written story and dialog. I would bet that if there's a GBA solitaire game, it would have tons of fuckin text before you can start moving cards around. On SOLITAIRE!!!!
Mike
There are modders who overclock the FX2 chip and it makes this game actually playable by increasing the framerate.
Get a hold of one of these overclocked carts and stream THAT so you can compare.
Love that farting chainsaw.
The Red cartridge always stood out and I always had it near my other red cartridge game maximum carnage, btw I love the content It's always a riot lol when the farting chainsaw happened I almost died
Its easy to pick it out from my plastic bag of SNES games !!!!!!!
Well, I was about to play the Doom 64 remaster on PC. But I think I’ll play Doom SNES instead. Nothing like 2FPS Doom!
2FPS is about right.
My brother has that one and I catch him playing it sometimes to this day.
The map on the SNES is bloody amazing.
This is how I first played Doom. 🤟
My dad bought this version of Doom in 2001 and I didn't know about any other ports I thought it was a great game then but my opinion has probably changed after playing the DOS version
Now I see why the Nightmare difficulty exists with respawning enemies. It's to prevent players from taking their sweet time baiting the enemies out to take them out one by one.
I can't play this game for very long not because of the graphics, but because it hurts my hands. Last time I played I only got to the 3rd or 4th level.
I had a hand injury years ago that eventually made me quit music. Some games hurt my hands, but some of those games can be played with an arcade stick. Next time I try SNES Doom I will try playing with the Super Advantage.
D&D Warriors of the Eternal Sun is one such example. Can't play with the regular controller, but the arcade stick works great!
Would you consider a custom snes game box, labels and instruction booklet to be good gift ?
Beat this port when I was younger
OK... next challenge. Play the 32X version of DOOM. Remarkably this was my first experience of any DOOM game. Yes, I had seen PC versions of DOOM and even Wolfenstein, but this was the first one I actually played.
The only thing that is "better" than the SNES version is the better graphics/frame rate and is mostly playable in comparison. However, it only has 17 levels as episode 3 is not included.
And OMG the music in this version... lol. You have to hear it to believe it!
It kind of blows my own mind I beat this when I was younger.
6:40 Fun Fact: There are people who consider the Super Nintendo version the original version of Doom over the PC, not acknowledging the PC version either.
Love your channel so much Mike. I watch religiously.
Just FYI, i noticed there's a high frequency noise on all your videos. Its around 10- 12 khz. You could improve this easily in post production with an EQ or noise removal software like RX by Izotope. I'm curious if the sound is IN the room where you film. Maybe coming from some old electronics. It could also be due to old electronics or lighting stuff being on the same circuit as your production gear (camera, mics, etc). The former case could be improved with mixing. The latter case you could potentially eliminate it.
If I can help you with this please let me know. I'm an Audio Engineer and it would be the least I could do! Thanks for YEARS of joy and nostalgia!
this was the Doom I played when I grew up no saves if you die it sucks but I made it all the way to the end eventually and was like hell yeah I beat one of the longest hardest dooms. fuck the level Limbo that was so hard. died so many times. love this game still. Rip and Tear old school
Dude you get to keep all your weapons and go back to the start of the map in this version.
Check out the SNES DOOM MSU1 mod. It adds a really good metal soundtrack.
GBA Doom was fun and impressive. SNES DOOM is DOOM... I'll give it that.
I didn't have a PC that could run this game when it came. I only remeber having a 20MB hdd and it ran DR DOS. It was horrible.
I played some of the GBA version here: th-cam.com/video/h0S7k51Rn94/w-d-xo.html
@@mikematei Wow replay from Mike himself.
I watched that gba vid you did, it was great. Even though I had a flash cart and played every game I do like to see others try a variety of games. The GBA was a mighty machine.
There's so much on there I need to explore it's overwhelming. I could do a whole year of only GBA streams and still not get through everything.
@@mikematei Keeps you busy with material. I really like finding games I've never seen or played through these types of streams. I also love really obscure or never released titles. The PSX versions of Mortal Kombat 2 and (the classic) Thrill Kill were the types of games I was always in the hunt for.
Have you done a stream of demo/unreleased games? Ecco 2, Castlevania, and Toejam & Earl for Dreamcast are interesting titles.
The SNES version's automap is colour-coded the same way as the DOS version's automap. Showing you where the key doors are on the map would be a cheat.
I was able to bet this game as a kid.
Yo my man Mikey , have ya played Doom on the ol' PS1 ?
Skycastle was the best part.
Yeah some of those people writing into the magazine were terrible people. lol It's why a lot of them got ignored. XD
would you be willing to try the Mega Man Sequel Wars Roms on the Genesis?
I got this game due to the novelty it truly is. Sure the game is unplayable due to being on the snes and the snes’ controller. But at least it’s a port of doom and on the snes.
According to the programmer for SNES Doom, years after release he discovered a method of doubling performance. Too bad there’s no way to implement it. Maybe a ROM hack someday.
That was great!
Thanks for suffering through this, so we could see how limited this port was. It really makes me appreciate the 32X Doom Resurrection homebrew even more.
I have zero interest in Doom...I know, I know...but when Mike plays it...I'm there. Thanks for all that you do Mike.
There's Mario hacks at the end of the stream if that's more your speed.
@@mikematei It honestly doesn't matter what you play. You never cease to entertain.
Hey Mike the SNES sound chip was great makes Doom music sounds great on SNES. The Genesis version the sound was god awful
The track "At Doom's Gate" always reminds me of the Metallica song "No Remorse".
Tap L or R to side step while adjusting to the lower timing that's how I beat it. Slowest port ever lmao
I also had to tap L/R to get off the walls when you randomly get stuck.
Make a Patreon and get some higher quality audio/video. You deserve better. You're a legend! Keep up the work, your channel will grow.
My audio is how I want it. I am able to do direct capture audio. (I have been doing that on my Returnal PS5 streams for example) The music in those games is more orchestral so I lean towards direct capture for those types of games. For Retro games like this, I prefer room sound. As far as video, honestly I don't even think its necessary to see me. The game is what's important. But I started doing my streams that way years ago, so I'm kinda stuck with it. I don't care what the footage of ME looks like. Look at the game, not me. Lastly, as far as the channel growing, it already has way more subscribers and viewers than I would have expected. If my subscribers and views stay where they are at forever or were less I'd be just fine with that. I can't even keep up with the comments on here already.
@@mikematei If that is how you want it. I won't argue you. I was just giving a suggestion. Either way I am still watching. Hope for the best for you, and hope you keep releasing content it is appreciated. Didn't mean for it to be a insult. I apologize if it came across the wrong way.
I would agree that I see some other gaming channels grow fast. They are even newer. Your content is definitely consistent and uploaded often so that's good. Really hope yours will keep on growing. But maybe more videos in the 15-20 mins range that way you have more contents more often...I am looking at Sega Lord X and Shootemup Junkie and they have long videos too like yours but they have tons of shorter videos also.
@lazy comments
It did not come off as an insult at all. You're good. It's more just that people can't fathom that I dont care about / want this to be some big channel. Its fine how it is.
If you want to simulate bad eyesight without contacts or glasses, play doom on snes.