This Guitar Amp Just Changed EVERYTHING
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 3 ต.ค. 2024
- Here's a review of the free Neural Amp Modeler (NAM) plugin by Steven Atkinson
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Looking for a game-changing guitar amp plugin? Check out Neural Amp Modeler (NAM), the revolutionary free profiling guitar amplifier from Steven Atkinson. With Neural Amp Modeler (NAM), you can create algorithmic copies of your own guitar amplifiers, share them with others in the community, and enjoy unparalleled sound quality. This plugin is a major competitor for Kemper, Line 6 Helix, and Amplitube Tonex. Don't miss out on this incredible new development in the world of guitar amplification and recording!
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Which amp model is your favorite?
That JCM is just so crisp man, this is awesome! Do they have a rectifier? I’m looking to pair it with the 900 for that enema of the state tone. Keep it up!
@@Rocksmiths awesome! Yes, I believe there is a triple rec already and if not there will be one soon. The community is going pretty wild with this
Linux has Guitarix. It's a lot like Guitar Rig and Amplitube. It also has an IR loader. It's 100% free. People still think Linux is the crazy-difficult "OS for programmers" and you have to type commands into the terminal to do anything. That is far from the truth. I've been using Linux Mint (a variant of Linux that is focused on the "Windows" feel) for over a decade now. It's definitely worth it, if you're sick of Windows treating your computer as if it belongs to Microsoft. You don't even have to install it on your computer. It will run from a USB stick or an SSD through USB.
@@Rocksmiths enjoy :) drive.google.com/file/d/1MFl2TGQDZX0d1UE9oclDtKlF6s-CnPVx/view?usp=sharing
I'm enjoying the Vox models along with the Sovtek. I need to try out the Jet City.
Growing up in the 90s, I couldn't even imagine have access to so much stuff like this to practice with and not having to own the really thing like you had to back them. I was lucky to have a Peavey Rage haha!
First thing I downloaded with tonex was a peavey rage and it sounded better than I remember.
Hehe i started with a peavy rage 150! It was a pretty freaking amazing practice amp!
@@CreativeMindsAudio I had the teal one. Got another one just out of nostalgia.
Hehe try growing up in the 70s and 80s. I'm 52 now.
Very very true. Same is true of synths. I have a moog on my phone now 🤷♂️ 🤯
The accuracy of NAM is better (objectively, it's physically much more accurate) given training time. It's not just better 'cause it's free, it's better by actually being better. Also hopefully being free/open will inspire people to share their expensive rigs. I also think there needs to be some kind of standard metadata for the profiles like what the eq was set to and a rough signal chain description as it will help people manage their capture collections in the future when there are 1000's of them.
This content needs to be uplifted and protected. This ish makes too much sense.
We say door not dee ay double you. This is the way.
If they made this for iPad that would be really dope. You could literally fit your live rig into a single guitar bag in a pinch.
nothings stopping someone from doing that
@@fungoose2195 Thanks for volunteering!
@@pianoplayeh my god I'm im sute theres a way to run the python code with a JavaScript app framework to make a simple UI. but wouldn't even try make it work on ios.
Wow, man... I have a Kemper, Fractal FM3, Tonex, and multiple Neural DSP plugins... And let me tell you something.. This software sounds as good as those units. Thanks for sharing man, you got a new subscriber
Based on the sounds in this video, it definately does not.
How did you get it to sound good? I'm genuinely asking without trying to sound like an asshole, because I couldn't get a usable tone on my Mac. It's to scratchy and noisy and muffled. I tried different amp models and IR's. I can't even put it in the same class as my Kemper to be honest. Even GElabs sounds much better. Believe me, i want to like it so so bad because it would be the perfect alternative for traveling, but i was quite disappointed by it. Perhaps I'm doing something wrong?
Here in YT ? Or do you use it by yourself ?
@@NedJeffery on you Tube it Sounds harsch, if my Twin Sounds like that it goes to a Tech.... but i don't try it by myself, maybe it is good, but here in you Tube it Sounds terrible
@@OLLiGoldeaux I installed it on my laptop, I also used some ML Sound Impulse responses.
My two loves: music production and coding. God bless open-source software!
The problem I have with this video: you compare a hardware unit vs a piece of software. You don't need to be a rocket scientist to figure out the usage cases will not entirely overlap. As long as we're talking studio use - ok I get it. But for live use there is no comparison
A few days ago I was thinking to write a neural network based VST for doing such things and now it occur that it's already made! XD Definitely gonna check out this one!
That's awesome! Maybe you can help with the plugin since it's open source and community driven!
This video was great!! I clicked because the thumbnail was very nice, and then I recognized you from Danny's video. I was surprised with how well-edited, informative, and helpful this video was. Even comparing this video to the one shooting out pickups from a year ago, this video seems so much more professional (not to knock the pickup video its perfectly fine). You should be proud of how much this video is blowing up man, it definitely deserves all the attention. Good luck, and keep it up 😄
I'm glad your video about Danny isn't your most viewed video, you seem like a really nice guy and I love that that video isn't people's only impression of you!
Usually the problem with convolution amps, is the dynamic change when picking hard on the strings or rolling back on volume isn't modeled accurately
I would say it's more of a problem with traditional amp sims. The NAM models that I've tried from the GitHub repo have really good dynamics and manipulating the input knob or the guitar volume know really does affect the tone in a more realistic way. It's basically better than every amp sim I've tried, and I've tried AmpliTube, BiasFX, Guitar Rig and Boss GT-100, among others.
It's super true. That's pedals like fuzz faces are so nicely paired with amp sims. (They're hyper reactive)
Looking forward to seeing how this grows; open source is the way to go. I predict it will go through a name change to appease Neural DSP
what a time to be alive.. 30 years ago, you were lucky to have a DS-1 between your guitar and your marshall 5210 and the only sound variations you could create were by turning a few knobs
It is GOOD that it's rudimentary! I don't need fancy graphics!😆
I like the simplicity. I read he's working on a library function that will make organizing the gear a bit better which could be good
Yeah, the graphics on Amplitube/toneX makes it unstable on older systems. It'll run the DSP fine, but try to open the UI, crashes.
This is pretty exciting. A few years ago, I thought that we would eventually get a free, open source platform for making amp sims. I didn't predict that it would use AI, though. I didn't realy like the sounds in this video that much, but I'm interested in seeing this evolve.
There are a ton more sounds, I just liked these ones. I've already found other ones I like more
I use Linux and there it's a bunch amp on guitarix and others. Totally free
I have two expensive hobbies: bedroom home studio and beer league hockey. I just bought a bunch of goalie gear so no spending money on music for a while for me. I'm not wealthy so it's encouraging to see more and more quality free and inexpensive music technology like this becoming available to us. Gonna try this out for sure.
I keep saying that I'll eventually sign up to play floor hockey, how much is that goalie equipment?
@@nikoniko893 Floor and street hockey equipment is not nearly as expensive as ice hockey, which is what I play. But no matter which style of hockey you want to play, finding used gear is the way to go. I got most of my equipment on Sideline Swap and ebay. Good luck!
Congrats on this going viral!
I'm blown away 😅
It is also very unstable in FL Studio, so if you use that DAW and have the nerve and time, please report as much as you can, so it can improve :)
Agreed, but you’re one of the only people I’ve heard of using FL Studio as a DAW for guitar / band music. No hate to FL, but it’s not geared to that much
@@vexedpixels it's perfectly fine for that for about 10 years now 😆
But of course I know people have some imaginary boxes, what is good for what, but function-wise FL Studio is capable of everything I needed (so far) for recording and mixing any kind of music.
Reporting 50x won't do ANYTHING. Joining the github repo, and learning to gather logging and intelligent information to help figure out WHY there's a problem WILL.
@@vexedpixels plenty of guys use FL Studio for guitar/band music, kmac, keyan houshmand, myself, theres a few of us out there. even though its mainly associated with electronic music it still does a really good job for recording
@@vexedpixels I also use FL Studio, and I'm in a producer discord where plenty other people do too. No offense, but do you live under a rock? 🤘😂
This is very very impressive ! With my own custom impulse response , i could chugg in no time!
For years I thought Kemper ought to bring out a compact unit that hosts profiles but isn’t a profiler at a much reduced cost; I think they would have sold like hot cakes but they have missed their window of opportunity: I recently heard about... I think it’s called NAMM (I’m not sure if it’s related to the trade show) which is basically a VST host for profiles. I actually thought such a thing already existed but perhaps not
I meant toe say ‘they *may* have missed their window of opportunity’
Now there will be the kemper pedal mini version
Wonderful video, Anndy! Excited to explore this some more :-)
I had bias fx series for a long while, just went to Amplitube 5 and been loving it. Also been mixing multiple amps (logic pro) together, doing things like cutting gain in half and just doing all sorts of things to experiment. Amps with amps on top of more amps to get more amp sounds.
If I wanted to do this with real gear, i'd be real broke real quick!
I agree, amplitube is awesome. I've been using it since V1! I think this will be my new goto tho
@@anndynegative v1? Wow. What I just found out (last night) was the mics. I *LOVE* the room mics. I love turning the mics on the cabs off and using the room mics, or mixing in a little bit of the cab mic. That alone makes things so much better.
Stumbled across your video and saw a Propaghandi shirt. Very cool! :)
never even tried a sim, but this looks pretty dope
Loving the Propagandhi tee.. great vid too..
Thank you for sharing !
mod devices is/was working on a prototype that allowed you to give it an mp3 and it would grab the guitar sound afaik, the future is kewl.
Lol, that's the first time I've ever heard a JCM900 described as "crunchy". The 900 was like 20 years past their last crunchy-sounding amp.
Gonna try this out today thanks
I was really impressed by the NAM. Fantastic advancement in tech. That said, I can't see myself bothering to model my own amps - why? I'll just keep using it with a Captor - but what I don't like is you're basically stuck with the model you use and save for the EQ, you can't adjust the gain....I found some great captures (in the limited amount that I could find) but you get what you get and that's a bit of a turn off.
Thanks Phil, very good ears. I agree with your results 👌
Thank You, this is great for free, what a find!! Subbed
Let me know what your fav amp model ends up being!
Great presentation
Cool stuff. Also didn't know Blue Stahli had a long lost twin brother.
Fellow lefty here, glad to see more of us on youtube!!! I am so glad to see that overpriced hardware is getting a chased down by less expensive software. Maybe one day those Kempers will be on the market going for a few hundred dollars and then it might an interesting toy to play with.
great video, thank you for sharing it!
Sorry but the Helix range of products are amp modelers, not profilers.
cool: it's free
not cool: sounds free :D
I love that people are getting this going for free, I also use Tonex. One thing I have noticed is that I have to run a lot more samples to sound good in Neural as compared to Tonex, resulting in much higher latency. I could be doing something wrong for all I know though.
Interesting, I haven't had an issue running at my regular sample rate. Could be any number of things
Hmm im not super convinced by the sound, at least on the current device im listening on coupled with YT compression, im sure it has potential but its still not game changer as yet and lacks lots of options you can get out of the more fleshed out paid options and physical units. Kempers (and the other offerings) can be had a fair bit cheaper than 2k of your freedom dollars, even here in Australia where we get gouged bad on everything, even at that cost its not a lot if you consider its something you have and can use for many years and in some cases earn money with, many people waste far much money on more frivolous items over time.
I'm in Canada myself and the price is easily 3000+ for a Kemper. There are so many amps now that I've found a ton I think are good. Either way, it's all subjective
I think it’s more the “free & open-source” part that’s interesting. I don’t think it sounds super amazingly awesome either (at least not through my iPad and after TH-cam’s done its thing), but because anyone can download and change the source code, it can get better at more or less whatever pace people are willing to put into it.
@@OtherTheDave that's the really exciting part, it's going to keep getting better the more people are involved. Also I've run through a lot more of the amps and there are some killer ones
Lol.. "freedom dollars" - We're all F'd and oppressed.
Eh? Helix isn't a profiler!
maybe meant mooer
He says profiler or line 6 later on you pedant
Some people interchange "profiler" and "modeler". They are both amplifier simulations though so it's really just semantics.
@@JalenRawley Seems unlikely when the video talks about "making perfect replicas of your amps", which is not something that a "traditional modeller" does.
I do agree though that a profiler is still a modeller - just not one that uses component level, white-box, models.
@@JalenRawley No, there is a fundamental difference between "profiler" and "modeler". The former takes a profile of real gear by creating an impulse response while the latter tries to model real gear by using some sort of simulation. It's like mixing "drive pedal" and "amp" because they both do distortion. Imagine if someone was like "Dude, check out this cool new guitar amp I got. It's called a Tube Screamer!' Would you be like "They're both just amps so it's really just semantics"?
Great content my dude, and I love the Tshirt! That's coming from a published 90's East Coast Punk scene alumni pushing 50 BTW. HA!😅
Thank you! Prop is severely underated these days in my opinion hahaha
@@anndynegative Yes the are. I got to hang with them a bit when they hit the east coast back in the 90's. Here, check out my old band circa 1996! th-cam.com/video/1AV6FnYSB6I/w-d-xo.html
Oh follow well earned. Many many thanks.
Now we just have to know how to play the guitar, no excuses
This is very cool! How did you get a library of IR files? From the same place?
So i can profile amps built by me and share to the guitar community? Awesome!
Indeed you can! Have fun
Brilliant!
Where is the official home database for NAM profiles, where users are uploading them to, and where they get ranked by the community?
Thats another issue, I think there are like 5 different websites all operating independently. Hopefully they can at least sync up all the profiles somehow.
@@masterofreality230 Yes. NAM creator needs to get organized or someone else will just take the code and develop a brand that is easy to navigate.
Have you guys heard about Scuffham S-Gear? I've been using for years. I tricked so many guitar snob friends with blind tests. The spring rever I use from Logic Pro IR .
I'm all in if there's a 'brown sound' amp or even better would be the early sounds from Akira Takasaki
there's this thing called protein yeah its pretty cool
Compelling... Though that very first example trying for a Marshall 50W sounded as digital as they come. The Orange sim sounded 😈
What we really need are standards for controllers these days... I connect my expression pedal and "it just works" with whatever soft-Wah I boot... I owned a Tom Scholz 'Rockman' in the 80s. It ate batteries daily.... ah,...good times....
I usually don't listen to dudes that wear nail polish but I'll give this a go.
Helix isn't a Profiler/capturer like Kemper, Tonex or this.
"It sounds so good." Proceeds to play some of the worst sounding shit in 70+ years of guitar history. Couldn't let that one slide, man.
I will use it, when there is a perfect Comfortably Numb preset
Am I the only one lost on how to download the models? I have the software downloaded and can see the list of models. How do I use them?
Exactly what equipment would I need to use this software?
Consumer warning; NAM doesn't work with Irig HDX. I know. I have one, and it's been an abysmal experience trying to get it to work with anything but Tonex or Amplitube.
For a free plugin this in incredible. I can hear some stuff that sounds a bit digital still (the high end has some weird distortion going on), but like other neural-network based things (think DLSS) it will QUICKLY improve as more people use it. Very excited to see where this thing goes! It definitely sounds as good as the original Axe-FX and certainly rivals the 3 and Kemper.
They might want to change the name. I thought this was a NeuralDSP product until told otherwise. I think most people will assume it’s a NeuralDSP product.
But what is the file to download, the link goes to a page with lots of stuff on it, its not clear :)
Just scroll down, it's on the page
Ty very much
The NAM doesnt work in the older Mod Duo 🥺
I haven't figured out a good way with my setup to eliminate the delay when monitoring a DAW. So how else are you supposed to hear it when using digital Daws?
Is the fender twin reverb and the jcm900 just the same old ones that are in the simuanalogue suite by any chance? Why do I get the feeling they are!
Neural amp modeler is great, but I couldn't get it to sound good, and in my opinion the other free guitar neural plugin, there is better. It is from a developer named Neural Pi and it is called Proteus. It sounds better to me for some amps so it is good to have both.
I'll check it out, thanks!
try other profile mate, don't forget to change ur IR too
I think this is great for the evolution of music, and music gear, but lets not fool ourselves about modelers and profilers. Modelers normally have sims of familiar amps, and often have multiple effects, aka Helix, Fractals earlier stuff, Software Modelers, Scuffham S-Gear is a good example of a software modeler. It has amp types, great usable sounds, and is a great deal, almost free for a while.
Profilers are similar, but are a snapshot of an amp at certain settings. If you model enough snapshots, you can get very close to the sound, and in some cases feel. I'm dealing with Kemper, Tonex, Amplitude, Scuffham, Helix, and others I forgot I have. The profilers generally don't act like a real amp when you adjust gain, eq, etc, and the modelers might get closer at this, and something that models at the circuit level like UAD's 55 (57) Tweed actually react to controls somewhat realistically, but it's still all good, and I still have amps, but honestly, it's easier to move things around on a screen than a pedal board, so everything has it's use.
I'm not sure there are total game changers, but sure fun to play with
100% this. a great model offers you way more flexibility than a profile. but the profile is super practical to get gear into your PC that doesn't have a model. i used NAM to make a profile of my blackmore at my every day default settings, and now i have that sound in my DAW. for that it's great. but getting other people's profiles isn't that appealing to me, cause when you start tweaking profiles they just lose quality. helix has so many amps that i don't own, i don't need other people's limited snapshots of any more amps. but i'm super happy that i now have a digital version of my own amp.
How can I install this on my windows PC please? I can't seem to find the right link, there are so many in the description.
Insane!
HI......are there any IR to download ?
Check out the video on my channel about Mikko 2
enjoyed this video
I love my Kemper. Far worth it for all you get. Effects, switching, playing live etc. Plus yes, it was 2k (you can get used for about half now btw) it was a question of “do I buy one “real” amp for 2k or buy a Kemper and have EVERY amp for 2k”…
I have no issue with Kemper at all and I'm sure they're awesome, but there are certainly lots of guitarists who can't swing 2K for any piece of gear. I see this as a great alternative especially once it's had some time to evolve.
Nowadays there's no justification for spending that much money on that unit. You can get a Quad Cortex for the same price that has the same capturing feature and way, way more versatility. And for the price of the powered head you can get an Axe-FX 3, which again, way superior in terms of features.
I'm saying this as someone who owns a Kemper. They were great when they came out but in the current market they're restrictive, one trick ponies asking a big premium price with nowhere near as many features as the competition.
@@itaysevenfoldhamri True, if you want the features of Kemper the ToneX pedal gets you there and sounds a bit better in my experience.
Absolutely.
However, as a professional tech, I can bet money that this kind of plug-in used in Gig performer and MIDI switches will be more prevalent in the touring industry than Kemper within 5 years.
Man. I disagree with all of you. Respectfully, of course. You guys are really comparing an Axe III and a Quad cortex to a Kemper? What are you recording or playing live that you want that a Kemper does not do?
I mean put this on a Raspberry pi with a TFT display and controls and you have a pedal platform? Not clear if the install could support this.
Works fine in Reaper. Doesn't show up at all in Ableton
You can’t gig with a free plugin
You CAN gig with a laptop, interface, rack case. Which will cost more than a Kemper.
i had to fight reaper a bit cause it added a 1 second fadeout to my rendered output file for some ungodly reason, but i got my engl blackmore profiled. and it sounds and feels fantastic!
How are the dynamics? I’m travelling at the moment so can’t check it out for myself. I’m also just starting playing again, so have missed the last 5 years or so of progress. Is the ‘neural’ in the title meaningful, as in is it using AI for the modelling or is it just an IR device? Lots of questions, maybe I’ll get an answer or two :D.
I’m off to Google to see what others have said. Thanks for bringing this to my attention. I have a nice 0.5 watt tube amp and, once I update them, all sorts of software but I love the idea of something open source, and if it’s doing something to manage the dynamics, I’ll be thrilled. That was always my biggest disappointment about modellers, early ones anyway. They just didn’t have that real feel when playing dynamics changed, although they were getting a lot better before I gave up on music in frustration for a few years. But I’m all better now :D.
How do I record it? Or even use it as a mic, I wanna piss off everyone in dc voice chat
This is awesome to someone starting out, but to say this compares to the amps it attempts to simulate, or even a Kemper is a massive exaggeration. Most of the sounds samples were shite, the clean Fender Twin sample sounds nothing like the actual amp. The driven amps were all thin a fizzy.
All the best software will be open source and free one day. The longer we have coders and the more of them that exist will make everything accessible
After tons of research (and playing). I have decided that, if you aren't gigging you don't need a physical amp modeler. Honestly, 120 bucks for a Neural amp is all you need.
Digital amp sims have come so far that if you already have an interface they pretty much replace amps imo
Is there a kemper profiler preset for this? (or at least something close?) thank you thank you
It is not an amp, it is an audio signal processor. Refering to the title of your video.
Yeah it's literally not an amp. Calling it an amp is incorrect.
thanks
Native Instruments made Guitar Rig 5 free some time ago, after releasing Guitar Rig 6, and it sounds infinitely better than NAM.
While I can get behind the optimism that it will get better with more knowledgeable users adding their own flavors; in this video it kinda just sounded like a good guitarist playing through an amp they found in the trash. Even my dry signal plugged straight into my I/O sounds better than that clean signal. The dirty signals sound like 13-year-old me turning every knob on my Grunge pedal all the way up and then turning on the distortion on my 10w Fender practice amp. Just dirty digital noise at pitch. =\
Helix is a modeling unit like the FX units. My LT was like $1k but a person can get Helix Native for $200. Thats the Route I’d recommend for studio.
Helix native does not sound as good as the hardware helix. I transferred my preset from the LT to native and, unless I use the LT as audio interface, the sounds in native are much worse. Not bad, but for sure worse
@@Pesso86 were you using monitors in both? This doesn’t make sense to me, PCs have way more processing power than the pedal.
@@Pesso86 This could be because of the signal the Helix unit receives vs the one the plugin receives.
Even if it has a dedicated guitar/instrument input, after recording, every interfaces converts the signal while the helix unit receives the unaltered guitar signal (basically a difference in input impedance).
Edit: the dynamics response and feel of the helix plugin may be a little bit different but I don't believe it is "much worse" by any means
How does this work? What do you plug into?
Wonder how does it compare to Guitar ML Proteus. Seems like similar projects but everyone speaks only about this one
Guitar ML ia great. Those two Projects should team up. The results are sounding identical for both sims on my own models.
@@StefanSchmidtRegensburg that`s cool, thanks
I own a Marshall JCM 900. Your example does not sound like it. At all. I own Stdio Artist that came with my Presonus interface, "their" 900 sim doesn't sound like my amp. At all. I understand that I am not sitting there and listening but, unless you have the amp sitting in front of you and can A/B it back and forth with the sim for comparison, you really can't make a reasonable opinion as to how close theses sims are. Some people aren't going to care as long as it's close. In my opinion, this isn't a good representation of a 900.
NAM is amazing 🔥🤘🏼
Agreed!
NAM is amazing for sure! However, it is totally incorrect to compare the price of software against complex hardware with the lot of physical knobs and buttons. Have you ever checked how much for instance midi controllers costs? Hundreds of dollars! With NAM you need a computer and an audio interface with good converters. So, it is justified to compare tones, but not the price.
There also mooer ge labs, free profiler and amp sim for iOS and works for the GE multifx pedals
It also works on Mac. I use it all the time. Unfortunately i can't record with it in any DAW. I wish i could because i have dialed in an incredible tone on it.
why does no one mention the quad cortex??? Its literally the best one....
With the least features and the biggest price tag
@unconstructive critic it has the most features and cost less than the helix, kemper, and axe fx 😂
I'm new to Neural Amp.. what is the direct path to install the NAM Models Main Collection made by users?
is there a way to use this out the studio like for a live show because i love this sound
if you have your speaker output going to the venue mixing board it should work, barring any potential latency problems
Now if someone can just invent a free guitar and pedal simulator that works with it. Guitar center can burn to the ground, as they seem to be doing and we'll all be fine.
Um... Neural DSP? Guitar Rig 6? Amplitube? Want me to keep going?
Run it on a Linux system at the public library
I NEED AN AAX VERSION TT-TT
I believe that is in the wish list of updates, stay tuned!
@@anndynegative i will, thanks!
What’s the minimum system requirements for Mac OS?