Bauer Hyperlite vs CCM FT4 Pro Jetspeed Review and Fit Comparison
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- During this video, I'll share my foot scan in order to give you perspective on whether or not these skates might work for you. I'll also speak to the fit differences that I've experienced.
You made me realize how important scans are. 🙏🏼🙏🏼 thank you sir
Glad I could help! Thanks for watching!
While not pro , I was extremely happy with the way my 12 yr old son skated in the ft-4. The step steel , one piece boot, liner, toe cap....all excellent. He played over 60 games between 2 teams and was on the ice times 5 to 6 times a week last season and they held up fantastic . We caught them on sale , and purchased again , just sized up. I cant see a better skate for the money anywhere in the market . Ft-4 were sub $400 for intermediate sizes a few weeks ago. Sold !
Nice! Glad to hear they’re working for your kid! When it comes time to replace those, it sounds like the FT6 line of skates will be as good if not slightly better. We’ll of course need to wait and see to be sure.
Your skate journey has been so fascinating to me! Finding the right fit is so important. I was a 9.5 EE in Jetspeed FT490s. But I discovered a 10D AS3 Pro fit me waaaaaaay better. Gotta find what works best for your feet!!
My skate fitting journey has been a gong show! Lol. But I’m glad it’s been helpful for you! I’m more and more happy with these Jetspeed skates. Better fit for me than the Hyperlite. Believe it or not, the top of the line skates ARE more comfortable than even one step down from the top. I’d wonder if you’d feel more comfortable in the FT4 pro than the FT490s?
@@mongillohockey didn’t see this response!
I’m a big guy (close to 300lb but shrinking 😎) with big powerful strides. What I noticed was I was flexing the boot to the point where I was getting intense speed wobbles when accelerating. I think the 490 Boot, and Jetspeed in general was too soft for me.
Once I got in the AS3’s that boot stiffness provided the support I needed and gave me the confidence boost to push harder.
In that span I did try True Customs. The fit was incredible but I didn’t expect the amount of tweaking I’d need to do just to get them right. On the Shift holders and a set of XS Holders it felt like I had no outside edge. So the holders were either mounted wrong, or (what I think) I wasn’t in the right position during molding, so they were tilted. It was kind of heartbreaking. 😂
@@mongillohockey I recently tried on the Catalyst 9X as well. Was genuinely impressed. But also knew the only way to know how they fit, is to mold them. The Wides were definitely tight for being “wide”. Feel bad for anyone going down the True retail path.
@@dbecker33 Hey man, no worries! Yeah the highest volume stiffest retail skate on the market is now the ASV Pro supertacks. As you drop down in the line, the skates get softer. You might be one of the few who can get value out of the supertacks stiffness. And I like Trues customer service but never again will I use their skates.
bought ribcor 90k in 8 wide and skated on them once and knew right away there was too much pain in my forefoot. also the top corner around the ankle support somehow got creased when they shipped them (giant tear in the box in that exact spot) and so it lost a lot of stiffness in that area. so on your advice i tried out some vapor x shift pro in fit 3 and they fit like a dream. i was blown away i couldn't believe i fit in a vapor. there's not as much instep room as i like but breaking them in has been pain free. what a miracle! lol
Glad to hear they’re working out! It’s actually kinda weird. I was really expecting the Ribcor to be the best skate of the year, but I’ve found the Jetspeed and Vapors to be more comfortable. Oh well, that’s why we try them.
Good review thanks. Good tip about applying heat to bend out the top eyelet on the ccm’s. I’ll try that as I also get that high ankle rub issue.
Thanks for the comment! Yeah, I’ve never really understood while that high ankle pressure happens, but I’m guessing it has to do with the fact that the one piece boot doesn’t flex as much as the two piece Bauer boot. I’ve had to heat and bend the top eyelets of every pair of ccm skates I’ve had since 2016.
We have so many similarities its amazing. 58, high arch forward ankle bones (always near the eyelets), foot surgery after torn Peroneal Brevis and ATFL in 2020/21, only 1 hip replacement (but 2 shoulders from wrestling and a life of powerlifting). Appreciate your detail and reviews. I may try a foot scan in a few months. And yes, the steel is simply too tall nowadays.
Hey there thanks for the view and comments! Sounds like we’re both a mess but powering through it! Lol. Yes, get scanned and see what the thing says. I’ve been pretty satisfied with the accuracy of the results.
@@mongillohockey was that a Bauer or CCM scanner?
@@Aviation_Professional I actually trust both. I think the CCM scanner does a better job at collecting volume info, but both do a good enough job for non pro players. One thing to note, is CCM skates seem to fit slightly shorter than Bauer.
@@mongillohockey great tip. Thanks for that!
@@Aviation_Professional No problem. Let me know how it turns out!
Thanks for the comparison vid. I'm currently waiting for my custom FT4 Pros as I have issues with heel lock in wide skates but my heel locks best in standard width skates, so it's nice to hear how nice the heel is in the CCMs. Cheers.
You’re welcome and thanks for the view and comment! I’m pretty confident you’ll dig your skates. Though not perfect, CCM does the best job at custom skates out there in my humble opinion. Let me know how they work for you.
Did you have colour options with ft4? Would love to see blue, still not sure which custom ccm will be best for me ribcor jetspeed or the new asv
@@acegaming8127 Nope, only the bright in your face red is available at the retail level! Lol. I do know you can go with a couple different colors if you go custom. Here’s something to think about. Even if you go custom ccm, the supertacks, Jetspeed and Ribcor all fit different, even in the exact same size. In my estimation, the new AS-V pro supertacks are the highest volume and the Ribcor 100k pro is the lowest volume. So it’ll really come down to your volume. If your foot is like mine, duck foot shaped, regular ankle width and high instep, you’ll want Jetspeed. Just a starting point to think about.
Thanks so much for the vid, I'm currently deciding between these skates too. Since I wore a pair of Nexus N7000 in 5 D, I'm not entirely sure about the new sizing system. It's unfortunate that they discontinued the nexus line since it fit my feet like a glove.
You’re welcome and I’m glad you liked it! If you were a regular width in Nexus, you might consider trying a Fit 3 in the Bauer size (it’s supposed to be a D width and volume Nexus) or a “Regular” in the new CCM fitting system. You’ll also find that the Bauer Hyperlite has a wider forefoot and narrower heel than the Supreme Mach skate. The ASV Pro is the widest and highest volume of any retail skate on the market. For reference, I fit a Nexus 2N 8EE and the CCM FT4 Pro Jetspeed in an 8 “Wide/high volume” is a good fit. The only difference is that the nexus had a slightly wider heel.
I currently own the Ribcor 100k's and have used the FT4 Pros. I wear a size 8 wide and my toes touch the ends in both pairs and pull back ever so slightly when laced up. This pretty much tells me this is the best fitting size for me in retail CCM's.
I did have the Ultrasonics before but returned them because I had issues with the toe box being slightly too narrow, causing pinching on my big toe.
With that said, I have always been curious about the Hyperlites. You mentioned that these skates had a slightly wider toe box than the Ultrasonic. I happened to see the Hyperlites on sale, in a size 8 FIT 3, and decided to purchase them. (Bauer 3d scan says I should wear 8 FIT 3)
I did immediately notice that these skates are slightly longer than my CCM's, even though they are both size 8. My toes don't touch the ends at all, even when forcibly trying to.
Do you think I should be looking at 7.5 FIT 3?
I want to try 7.5, but if they are narrower than size 8 then there may not be a point.
I was just wondering if anyone happened to know if the width changes dramatically when moving down a size slightly. In my case an 8 to a 7.5.
The 8's are somewhat snug already so I think 7.5's might be too tight if they are narrower than the 8's.
Thanks!
Hey there great comments and questions! I believe I can help you with all of them. Straight up…just get the size 8 Fit 3 Hyperlites over the 7.5 Fit 3. There are a handful of other issues that will come into play and can cause other problems you didn’t have before. For example, on the 7.5 you might start feeling your pinky toes getting pinched because the cap is closer to your toes and the cap has a slight taper. In reality, you’re probably a 7 3/4 in Bauer and an 8 in CCM. If you really want to try the Hyperlite and you by the size 8, buy a product called Power Foot by Adrenaline Design inc. You can get them for $20 American muneez at Pure Hockey or Amazon. They’re basically a blue toe box foam insert that reduces volume and creates amazing comfort. I’ve used them for years and promise you’ll like them. Let me know if you have follow up questions.
@@mongillohockey Hello again, Sir. So I had another question. I know you used the hyperlites for a while. In that timeframe, as you used them more and more, did you feel that the volume increased slightly, even after your initial baking? I feel the 7.5's are borderline perfect, but a wee bit snug. Not so much that it hurts my feet or anything. I think if the Bauer's break in even a tiny bit and expand a little, then it will be perfect. Thanks for your help!
@@nillirk Sure. So they did break in and create a slight bit more length and and heel width. That said, it wasn’t as good as my CCM Jetspeeds. The Hyperlite mostly broke down and got soft. The CCMs broke in and became as close to perfect as a skate can be. Here’s one random thing I’ll mention. My friend just got the Hyperlite 2 skates with the new weird holder. Bauer tweaked the sizing again without telling the public. The size 8 fits like a 7 3/4 now. I know you’re looking at the original Hyperlite but I just wanted you to be aware of that for future Bauer skate purchases.
@@mongillohockey Thanks for the response. Maybe I'll go try the Hyperlite 2's...ugh lol. I have a game this weekend to test out the 7.5's, so I'll see how that goes.
Off topic, have you by any chance test fitted into FT6 Pros yet? I have a skate credit with CCM and they offered me a pair of AS5 Pros, but when I tried on a 8W in the store they felt kind of big. I tried on 7.5's and they felt slightly too small (depth-wise). I wonder if they use the same sizing. If they do, that would be unfortunate.
@@nillirk I haven’t but the FT4 pro in an 8 wide has slightly less volume than the ASV pro in an 8 wide. No skate has more volume than the ASV pro. I’ve heard the ft6 pro fits the same as the ft4 pro.
Talk about good timing for this review. Looking for this exact comparison. Thank you!
Haha glad I could help! Sorry that I only have the two hours on the skates, but I’m experienced enough with both ccm and Bauer to speak pretty accurately about them. I’m just not looking forward to the long ccm break in period.
@@mongillohockey Makes sense, I've heard that it is a stiffer boot. Has your break in period still been comfortable at lesat? I'm picking up the FT4's tuesday, I believe they might slightly less stiff than the Pros. Appreciate the review, I'll let you know how they ride.
@@BestBallStrategy yep, the break in has been mostly comfortable, but I do have arch fatigue which seems to be a common theme for these skates. I have a buddy who broke his in over the course of 1.5 months, which is longer than Bauer’s 15 hour break in process. And yes, your FT4s will be a little less stiff than the Pros. If I’m not mistaken, they’re slightly softer than the Ribcor 100K pro.
@@mongillohockey With the arch fatigue, do you plan on changing out the insole?
@@BestBallStrategy yes. I’m messing around with several insoles now. I’m using superfeet, blue high arch ccm insoles (pre-ortho move insoles), Elite Hockey (super low profile), pro guard and lastly custom insoles. I’ve discovered recently that even having a high arch, sometimes it’s best to let the boot provide the support instead of the insole.
Great review. Thank you. Was curious to see if you put on a regular fit in the FT4’s before settling on the wide. I tried on a set of regulars this week and loved the fit on my left foot. Unfortunately my right foot went numb after only a few minutes. I was hoping you could tell me how much more volume I could get for my numb foot by going wide. Thank you.
Hi there, thanks for the comment. So there is a significant volume difference between the regular and wide. I’d ask yourself this. How snug was your right foot? The reason I ask is because CCM skates increase length and volume with multiple bakes (like 3) and use over the course of a month and a half. Most people seem to hate CCM skates until after that amount of time and that includes me. Basically if one foot is snug but the other is great, it might just be a matter of break in.
Great content! I have both hyperlites and ft4 pro skates. The regular fit on the hyperlites fit perfectly, just didn't like them in terms of durability and like the solid one piece construction of the ft4s. The problem I'm having is with the jetspeed tapered fit is blisters emerging on the left inner arch (between heal and ankle bone) and on the right skate outer side (a little higher but similar to the left inside arch).
I'm curious if i work on remediating the issue, baking the boot again and maintenance with moleskin, wool socks or barefoot. I keep hearing the CCMs take a long time to break in but the inside arch blister is brutal. I've tried using superfeet and playing with different insoles to no avail as of yet. I'm only about a month in using the ccms with about 5 hours logged so far. Or should I just find another skate or go back to the hyperlite that seems to fit out of the box just fine. I'd like to stay with the ccms but don't want to have to deal with blisters indefinitely.
Sorry for the ramble, you just seem very knowledgeable about the subject.
Cheers
No worries at all and you have a very common issue with the FT4 pros. The new ccm one piece boots take much longer to break in than other brands and require as many as four bakes to do so. For reference myself, and three other friends of mine, have the exact skate, and it took all of us one and a half months of skating three times a week to break them in and all of us had to beat the skates between two and four times. I had to bake mine four times. We all had the issue that you are describing and three of the four of us had the issue resolved itself after the break in period. My one friend who the issue didn’t work out for we discovered that he’s more of a supertacks fit Regarding Insoles I found them to be pretty important to the process. I have extremely high arches and you don’t want to put super feet in these skates is what I found out. Myself and friends have found that a cheap insole by Elite Hockey seems to be perfect. It cost about 15 bucks on Amazon. Once you get those you need to bake the skates again and this time have your local hockey shop wrap them in cellophane the same way they would for True brand skates. Don’t let them wrap the very top eyelet. Doing so will cause the top of a very stiff boot to dig into the high ankle of your foot. Doing all of this should alleviate the foot pain assuming you’re willing to wait it out and it will also give you a better fit. If after that amount of time you find that you’re still experiencing the pain, you need to sell the skates on SidelineSwap and try a different brand or model because there’s no way to fix that area you’re talking about.
Here’s the link to the insoles…
www.amazon.com/Elite-Hockey-Skate-Insoles-SENIOR/dp/B00V2Q37YM/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?crid=14YZF0FD913XY&keywords=elite%2Bhockey%2Bpro%2Bskate%2Binsoles&qid=1669057577&sprefix=elite%2Bhockey%2Bin%2Caps%2C165&sr=8-3&th=1&psc=1
@@mongillohockey thanks very much for the detailed and informative reply. I really appreciate it! Honestly, I think I'll sell these as much as I don't want to as the hyperlites fit like a glove for me and despite my concerns about long-term durability, the pros outweigh the cons. Thanks again, we all appreciate the well thought out content. Take care
@@MatthewPlayz999 Glad I could help a little with your decision. You gotta use what works. The Hyperlites are still top tier. Have fun!
Damn bro. It sounds like you’re best rt. are custom skates. You got monster feet. Though, i think mine are the opposite of yours on each aspect. My left foot is wider (about ee), my right foot is longer (.5” than my left) i’d say sbout medium volume but ankles are skinny. I was recommended supremes but vapors feels much better to me. I also have a hunch that ccm jeetdpeed might even fit me better.
Haha yeah I seem to have baby elephant feet. It’s CCM or custom for me. And after having 7 pairs of custom skates, they barely ever get it right anyways.
I had custom FT4 pro's made and they didn't have anywhere near enough depth at 8.5 W. Waiting on a remake down to an 8 with a tighter heel and advanced facing (which they didn't do the first time for some reason). And currently using hyperlite 7.0 Fit 3. Not quite enough depth on the instep. But pretty okay all things considered. Heel has too much width. Sadly.
I sought out hyperlites due to your video and your qualms matching with mine. Except for your heel width I have similar issues. Just the inverse on that lol.
I also definitely found the Jetspeeds responsive as can be. Agree with you on that.
Sorry about the fit challenges but it’s the unfortunate truth about custom skates. They rarely get it right the first time. On the custom Jetspeeds they can advance the facing 1/4 and 1/2 inch. I know they can do it on at least the top three or so eyelets but maybe they can do it on all like the Ribcor. They can also move the padding further forward towards the eyelets but only seem to do it upon request from the customer. If you don’t know to ask, they won’t do it. I’m trying to avoid custom skates like the plague from now on. Let me know how your remake goes and thanks for watching.
@@mongillohockey I am starting to understand the avoidance of custom skates. I received mine and the advanced facing is almost comical. I think for some reason they decided to go 1/2". I did not opt for the 10mm tongue because I wasn't sure how much depth I'd be looking at since the first go around was lacking in it. But I have ordered the 10mm tongue and am curious to see what that and a bake will do. The facing is so long especially near the toe box that it does not lie anywhere close to the tongue lol. Baking "should" help that but to what extent, I am not so sure. The heel lock's only hope is for that tongue to fill up space and keep my foot down and for the facing to mold.
I definitely expected a different experience with the custom route. And yes, totally. Your content is great. And especially helpful for someone with skate fitting difficulties.
@@andrewm1793 Ugh, custom mishaps strike again. Sorry about that. It seems to take most manufacturers two to three tries to get custom skates to fit. I found out recently that the custom fitting process for pros is different. They do an actual mold…not a scan.
You mentioned bending the top couple eyelets out. Any way to show how you did that with your heat gun? When you lace up I would think it would pull the eyelet back in.
Hey there. It’s tough to show without actually doing it. Let me try to explain what I mean. We’re specifically talking about the very top eyelets on the outside of both skates. I hear that area and bend it down ever so slightly; almost like peeling a banana. This allows me to tighten the top eyelets without having them dig into my high ankle areas on the outside of both ankles. I typically experience pressure in that area when I’m doing hard backwards cross overs.
Bauer makes boot longer when it goes wider. 9.0 fit 1 is real 9.0, but 9.0 fit 3 is real 9.5. You can see it just remove plate - on 9.5 fit 3 original plate will be 10. And for fi3 skate blade will be longe (for example 9.5 fit 1&2 has 280 blade, but 9.5 fit 3 has 288, like for 10). I don`t know why they make it. My size is around 9 and fit 3, Bauer scanner shows 9.5 Fit 3 for me. And all skate 9.5 fit 3 is not fit to me because they too long. CCM length not depend on fit, so 9 regular and 9 Wide has the same length. And when I try CCM, it really fit for me.
Hi there, thanks for the comment! That actually makes sense and is maybe why the Bauer felt longer to me. That’s just another reason for me to stick with CCM boots for now. Thanks for watching and maybe your comment will help others.
@@mongillohockeyIf this is true for the length, does this mean that the width of a FIT 3 is affected going down a size from an 8 to a 7.5(Becomes narrower)?
Not sure if you can answer this question as I was just thinking out loud. Btw, love your videos.
Hey thanks for this skate comparison! So just to be clear. Did you say the CCM has a narrow to normalish heel with a wider toe box compared to the Bauer? Ive been trying vapor and machs. Skates hurt. Im looking for a solution.
Yo! So I should caveat my comments by saying that I made this video before the Hyperlite 2, Mach and FT6 pro were available. That said, the simple answer that I can verify for certain is that the original Hyperlite was longer than its counterpart in the FT4 pro. For instance, the original Hyperlite in an 8 fit 3 was slightly (maybe quarter size?) longer than the 8 wide/high volume FT4 pro. That said, the FT4 pro had more volume EVERYWHERE else! I have tried the Mach on and they’re waaaay to snug everywhere no matter the fit. I have not tried the Hyperlite 2 yet, but plan to the end of June. That said, I have it on good authority that the Hyperlite 2 is now a shorter boot and probably more comparable to CCM skates in length. I have tried on the FT6 pro and thought they were nice but maybe fit slightly tighter than the FT4 pro? The bottom line is that CCM boots provide the most volume possible in the heels and forefoot right now. Bauer boots (even in custom) seem to be built for scrawny bony little feet. One last thing I’ll add is that the CCM XF pro skates come out in June. They may be just right on size. I did a sneak peak video on them, so check it out. Hope that helps!
Hey, thanks for great review!! I had a chance to try on FT4 PRO - WIDE and suprisingly the boot was kinda shallow for me (I'd hardly pass the "pencil test"). I do have quite high instep, that's for sure, but not extramely high. How did you put up with the depth of the boot? Thanks
Thanks for the comment! To your question, the depth has always been borderline with the Jetspeeds. Unfortunately, there wasn’t anything out there at the time that was better. If you need extra depth, there is only one skate on planet earth that has more and that’s the ASV Pro Supertacks. Even if you go custom, it could still be a challenge to get more volume.
Great review. I've been using the CCM AS3 Pro skates for a couple of years and am generally a happy camper; I tend to like a stiffer boot (I'm ~193 cm in height and about ~95 kg in weight), but I'm considering the FT4 Pro skates as there should be a difference in stiffness .. allowing me to be a bit more agile on the ice, and perhaps a bit faster as well, although the best option likely is to spend more time practicing and doing cardio.
Where did you get the CCM insoles?
Yes, having owned both the AS3 pros and FT4 pros and the Ribcor 80Ks for that matter, the Jetspeed is the fastest. They’re super stiff but not as much as the supertacks. Just make sure you get scanned. The new fit system is completely different than what you’re using.
Oh and I got the insoles from Hockeymonkey.com. They had a few new old stock pairs around. They’re the best all around insoles for comfort and performance but very hard to find.
Hmmm I tried the ft4 pro on fit 2 and they still caused a lot of rubbing on the forefoot/pinky. Every retail skate has caused this issue for me. The only one that has fit the best is the mach but I still had to return them bc although out of box and bake the machs fit great, once I was on the ice and doing turns and crossovers I felt the pinky on my left foot starting to pinch. A shame bc I really liked that mach but I wasn't going to spend 1000 on skates that I have to tinker around with to make them fit well.
I come from true so I am spoiled with the comfort of those and hard to really be satisfied with anything that isn't comfortable out of box and not having to punch out areas. I'm not a believer of having to punch 1000 dollar skates and potentially compromise them.
I will possibly try the asv pro if they do have more volume. And at least ccm offers the 90 day guarantee. I just really don't like the interchangeable tongue design.
I guarantee no one understands your situation more than me. I spent three years buy, trying and selling skates in retail and custom and no one got it right. My Jetspeeds are the only ones that get it close enough. For you, the ASV pro is your best best. If they don’t work you need custom skates. Just don’t go custom Bauer because they don’t really have a custom program that’ll fix your issue. Let me know how the supertacks work out.
@@mongillohockey ya I figured but the asv pro probably are way stiffer than Id like. I have trues now and it might be just something I should accept lol. No issues with true except sometimes they feel a bit bulky and heavy.
Ya I realize Bauer isn't fully custom.
@@Chanmantroop10 All correct. Regarding the stiffness; you’re right about that but it’s only a problem if the skates don’t fit properly.
@@mongillohockey ya. I may give them a shot but I wish they kept the tacks look more subtle. Not a fan of the new colors and the camo liner etc. Also not a huge fan of the toecaps tabs for the tongue.
At least ccm has their satisfaction guarantee where I don't have to worry about spending $1000+ on skates and being stuck with something that doesn't work out. Bauer skates are nice and all but their technology really hasn't changed since they first released their curb composite quarter package. Some diff materials for weight but everything else is a marketing gimmick. Not to mention ccm and trues are much more customizable in terms of moldability and spot heating
@@Chanmantroop10 Yep all of that is right. The detachable tongues are a bummer. I wish everyone just stuck with a 7mm felt tongue. Btw, if you go ccm (retail or custom) it takes a long time to break them in and between two and four baking sessions. Just bare with it and you’ll be rewarded. It took me and my buddies 1.5 months of skating 3x per week to break them in.
Do you know if the forefoot of the 3x pros fit similar to the Hyperlites or if they're narrower like the Ultrasonics? They stop the Hyperlites at size 10.5 for fit 3 so I'm forced into the 3x pros.
Boy, my experience is that the Hyperlite is slightly wider in the forefoot than the 3X pros, but I actually think the fit difference is more a result of slightly different materials and design. What I will say is that the Jetspeed FT4 Pro has finally broken in and it’s significantly better fitting than the Hyperlite all around. There’s more volume than a fit 3 in Bauer. The only thing is that I don’t know how large they go in length. Have you considered the Jetspeed?
@@mongillohockeyOh wow, that’s surprising that the jetspeeds are higher in volume. I have been considering them because they have my size but wasn’t sure if they’d fit me. I’m mainly looking for whichever skate has the widest forefoot due to having bunions. So the ccms certainly could be an option if you think they’re wider in that area. What you mentioned about the ccms having more padding is interesting too. I’m guessing as you’ve broken them in the padding has worn down a bit and given you some extra room in your forefoot area?
@@christiannichols3148 Yep, I was surprised as well. I never would've considered the Jetspeeds without their new fit system. So, the Jetspeeds are slightly shorter than the Hyperlite, but there's SO much padding around the forefoot and they heat mold so well that they take the shape of your foot better than a Bauer boot. Even if the width of your forefoot is snug in the Jetspeed, there is foam padding covering the seam where the toe cap attached to the boot's quarter package. Basically sandwiching you between foam on either side of your forefoot unlike what Bauer does. One other thought I'll throw out there is the AS-V Supertacks. Unfortunately , I can't speak first hand about this, but I have a contact that I trust who told me that the new Supertacks in the "Wide/high volume" variant is higher volume everywhere than even the Jetspeed. And the Jetspeed is higher volume than the Ribcor. I believe the Supertacks are due out in July.
Do the BladeTech blades for CCM XS holders have shorter height than the Stepsteel?
Yes they do, but it’s minimal. That said, the slightly shorter height of the BladeTech is a good thing to me. Step is usually too tall and less stable until it’s worn down over time.
@@mongillohockey Good to know. I prefer shorter blades as well. I have Tydan steels and Stepsteel DLC for my CCM skates and Tydan is about 5mm shorter, which is very noticeable. I thought about getting a pair of BladeTech, but if you say the difference is minimal I think I'll pass. Thanks for the reply.
@@bestoss8120 Sure thing. Glad I could help.
Hey, great comparison. How long is your foot? I got the Bauer hyper lite and the 8.5 is too long. I was wondering about the size 8 in the ccm ft4
Hi there, thanks for the comment! So, my custom Bauer Vapor Hyperlite skate size, is a 7 3/4 in my left skate and an 8 in my right skate. For CCM, my custom size is actually an 8 on both skates. If anything, I might be able to do an 8 1/4 on my right skate because my right foot is slightly longer. The key takeaway is that is seems to me that Bauer skates run slightly longer than CCM. That said, you should check out my review of the CCM ASV Pro Supertacks skates. The sizing is now different! Those seem to be a larger skate all around. For instance, I'm an 8 "Wide" in the FT4 Pro Jetspeed, but I can wear either a 7.5 "Wide" OR 8 "Regular" in the new ASV Pro Supertacks skates. I wish they'd stop messing with the sizes. Anyways, that's the best I can tell you, so I hope that helps.
@@mongillohockey thanks for the reply! That was helpful. I was looking at getting the ccm ft4 pros and wasn’t sure about 8 or 8.5. My old vapours are 8.5 and fit perfect, my toes are just touching the toe cap. The hyperlites are just a little to long at 8.5. So, your saying the ccms are shorter in the same size as the hyperlites. Thanks
@@dillcart2 Yes, that’s how they feel to me.
Hey, which bauer skate has the lowest volume? I need to wear two insoles in skates to make my hyperlite fit relativly well.
Strangely, the high volume Jetspeed has more volume than the high volume Hyperlite, but the tapered fit Jetspeed has a lower volume than the low volume Hyperlite. The heel and ankles are tighter on the Jetspeed. Between the Jetspeed and the Hyperlite, I’d consider the Jetspeed over the Hyperlite based on what you’re telling me. Something else to consider is the Ribcor 100k pro. These seem to have slightly less volume than the Jetspeed, but the ankles have more volume. Don’t forget to consider buying the 10mm thick CCM tongue as that’ll remove volume from any ccm skate and give you protection. Hope that helps!
@@mongillohockey if i was to buy ccm skates, should get size 7 if i have 6.5 in bauers?
@@mathiaswikudd4494 That's a tough one to answer over the inter-webz but I've noticed that Bauer skates are slightly longer than CCM. For example, I can do a 7 3/4 in Bauer, but NEED an 8 in CCM. At the end of the day, you should probably buy the same size in both skates, but with the knowledge that the CCMs will fit slightly shorter in length. It's pretty small difference, though.
what size hyperlites do you have. I'm looking at 7.5 - 8 fit 3 if you want to sell your hyperlites lmk. Lowest volume in bauer for the hyperlites will be fit 1.
@@davidthibault7683 So, I had the 8 Fit 3, but sold them last week. For reference, I got $625 for them in the condition you saw in the video if you want a good basis for what to pay on Sidelineswap. Thanks for the offer though!
do you have even more hours in FT4s now? How do you like them after some time ?
Hey there, sorry I missed your note. I do have significantly more hours now and LOVE these skates! I think they're the best I've ever used. The one thing that you should know is that the pitch of the boot is very neutral. This means you have to intentionally pitch the boot forward via a profile more than a Bauer skate. For instance, I use 1/2 a degree for Bauer, but the CCM boots require at least 1 degree. So, if you buy the FT4s...just know that. If you don't like the pitch, the fix is profiling your skates.
Hey i have a question and sorry for my english i try the ft4 pro and asv pro now and my last skate is the hyperlitr for 1 year and half and what is the same profile for skating the ft4 pro to feel the same feel than the hyperlite quad 0 elipse pro sharp thanks
Do both these skates have the same aggressive pitch?
Hi there, thanks for the question! I'd say no they don't. To me, all three models of CCM skates have a very neutral pitch to them whereas both Bauer models have an inherent forward pitch. If you're looking at the CCM, it's crucial that you not only have your skates profiled, but ALSO ask for at least a minor forward pitch when doing so. That is, of course, unless you like a neutral stance. For the Bauer models, you still need to profile them, but it's not as important to ask for a forward pitch during the profiling work. With all of that said, I've heard a couple people say they feel like the CCM skates have plenty of forward pitch in them right out of the box, but that's not been the opinion of the 5-10 people in addition to myself who I've had compare CCM to Bauer.
@@mongillohockey Txs for the reply. You gained a sub :) I like the forward pitch of the vapors but the boot never fit my foot as well as the ccm. Think I’m gonna try true next
@@mongillohockey keep up the good work
@@francoiscaloz5299 Thank you!
@@francoiscaloz5299 Give the True retail skates a try first before going in for custom skates. They’re tough getting used to. I had two custom pairs and they didn’t work for me.
is this an app or one done at a store?
Hi there, can you clarify what you mean be an app?
the foot scan was it an app on your phone or ipad or did ya go to the store and use some other device?@@mongillohockey
Ccm jetspeed ft4 pro great
Yes agreed
wobbly? lol
Yeah. It’s a technical term used by people like me who suck at hockey. Lol