Victorinox Cadet Alox
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- I hesitated to buy this knife for a very long time because it didn't incorporate scissors. While I would really enjoy an X version of this knife, I wish I would have purchased it a lot sooner. This is a fantastic minimalist carry knife. I am really struck by how much I enjoy the smaller frame size of this knife as well. Let's take a look at the Victorinox Cadet in Red Alox.
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You're right on the "Cadet X". Victorinox worst mistake was getting rid of scissors on 84 like this one.
Agreed.
An Alox Bantam X would probably be my ideal knife. Hope the bring out the scissors again at some point.
The only reason that I haven't got a Cadet yet, is because I'm waiting for the Cadet-X,,, If you book it, it will come!
That would be nice.
Cadet X! I'm excited.
Would be so nice if they did. But since they haven't had 84mm scissors since the mid-80s and their tooling apparently broke, it doesn't seem likely. I honestly don't know why they can't just fix/remake the tooling for it.
I waiting for cadet X too, when victorinox when?
Great vid, great tool, many thanks! Good combo: Cadet Alox and VIC Classic SD (so you get scissors, nail file, tweezer) 🙂
Bin the can opener & bottle opener and replace with scissors 😍
So a nail file, blade and scissors? Maybe if the nail file were flat at the end to double as a screwdriver, then it would just be a larger Classic SD. I think a better configuration would be a Bantam with scissors, so you still have the ''multipurpose'' can/bottle opener but more importantly flathead and Phillips (in a pinch).
Good video :)
Just 2 hints for the future:
1. I think it's safer to open the "least sharp" tools first, and then the sharper and sharper ones. I would leave the blade to the end.
2. If you half open a tool (except the bottle opener that has a half stop), you are putting pressure on the back spring, and the tool on the other end of the same layer is much more difficult to open (and there is more risk that it closes on you).
-> Opener layer: fully or half open the bottle opener FIRST (no tension on the spring), THEN the can opener.
-> Blade layer: if you fully open the reamer or the blade, the other tool will be easier to open.
Thanks for the tips.
Thanks for the great reviews. I started watching you when I was deciding to buy a leatherman surge and victorinox huntsman and have been watching since.
Thank you for watching. I can't tell you how much I appreciate everybody that comes back to watch my videos. I hope you are enjoying your Leatherman Surge and Victorinox Huntsman, two very good selections.
@@txtoolcrib the tools are great. Your reviews helped me chose the right ones for me. I need both because of Illinois under 3 inches in government funded areas law. Now I’m considering the victorinox ratchet.
That's really great to hear, glad I could help. I have some other micro ratchets that I will be posting up very soon. I really like the Victorinox set for it's compact design, but you may want to take a look at some the others that will be coming up shortly. Some of them are really good.
Maybe if Wenger weren't owned by Victorinox we would see a return of the 84mm scissors. But I don't think they want to diminish the sales of the Delemont 85mm and I assume those scissors are easier and cheaper to make than the Vic design. Unfortunately I don't like them and would much rather they made 84mm scissors again. Only option is to cary a Swiss card or a Classic for the scissors and additional tools. Cadet is still an excellent pocket carry and is very discreet option even for a suit. I gave then as groomsman's presents at my wedding. We used them a bit that day, not least for opening some beverages. I enjoy your videos and commentary
I started carrying the Cadet Alex about 4 years ago. I used to carry the Tinker but the size and weight of the Cadet won me over for EDC. It was my first Alex knife and I have been afraid that the Alox scales would war quickly. Not so - it looks the same today as it did when I bought it and I have carried it every day. I also got the Alox Farmer which has everything I need in a pocket knife. I keep that in my back pack.
I do like to EDC the Cadet, but occasionally I carry the alox Bantam. It's a single layer knife that has everything the Cadet does except for the nail file. It is unbelievably thin and manages this by using a combination tool fo the bottle opener / can opener / screwdriver. (If I'm going that minimal I'll drop an alox Classic SD in the coin pocket - this adds nail file and scissors and a knife too small to be useful...)
I've added this Alox knife to my collection. Great knife. Thanks for your creative TH-cam content!
Personally, I'd like a 3rd layer with the alox awl and an in-line Phillips driver. Thank you for posting.
While I do appreciate the 3 layer Victorinox the two layer and ESPECIALLY the thin Alox scales make
the Cadet a delight to carry. I carried a classic red fiber scaled oen for years and I tell the difference.
Yes a scissors is nice but I can get by with this tool set. I am in the technical
trades and use mine so much I keep bought a spare one at the ready just in case.
A Cadet X would be an absolute success. I don't know what's taking Victorinox so long. But the Cadet is great too for its small size.
Why a Cadet X? When you have a Pioneer X and imo the reamer is much better than a nailfile. Okay it's 93mm not 84mm. Imo a better option would be a Bantam X, which would be basically an alox Compact (minus backtools and scale tools).
@@simonh6371 The market wants a Cadet X, that's why.
@@timsummers870 You mean based on youtube comments you've read, probably only in English? Funnily enough no German, Spanish or Dutch language SAK review yt comment sections voice this opinion. Okay snarkiness aside there are 2 reasons Vic don't make every combination model or indeed make custom SAKs. The first is that this way we keep buying more SAKs in our quest for perfection which we never attain, and most of us wish for a model which doesn't exist. Otherwise we might well just buy one for life, given their durability, whereas as it is I bet most SAK owners possess more than one. Secondly in the German speaking world the Swiss are renowned and even derided for being slow and stubborn, and in the case of Victorinox it is still just a small family-owned business (the CEO is still an Elsener) in a small town where it's workforce are from. So don't expect them to adapt to your American ''the market wants'' philosophy in this lifetime lol.
@@simonh6371 Sure.
@@simonh6371 I'm Scottish by the way. I don't know where you're making these assumptions from.
"The Cadet X"... not a bad idea... I'm like you, I've become real fond of anything with a pair of scissors... I love scissors on just about anything...
The nail file is great for smaller philips and flat screws, and recessed screws as well
My initial foray into multi tooling was a Leatherman Core. I didn’t get into SAK’s until way later. The Cadet is an amazingly useful tool. Capable beyond what the eyes would initially suggest. Another bonus is that it’s totally unthreatening to the average sheeple. If the kid is at the playground and the Cadet comes out to cut something or fix something absolutely nobody pays attention.
I could not agree more with what you said. I have been wishing for years they would make the cadet with scissors. I heard that Victorinox's machine to make scissors in that frame size broke years ago and they decided that they didn't need to replace it.
That's really too bad. I think if they made a Cadet X, they would be constantly sold out. I would like to see a scaled down version of the Pioneer X into the 84mm frame as well. I think that would also be a hot seller as well.
Lack of competition. A cadet or sportsman with scissors would sold out in minutes.
Great review, as always. I've spent so much time on the SAK WIki and using multi tools that there's not a lot for me to really learn from most of your reviews, but I find myself always watching anyway just to hear your thoughts.
I really wish they would do more with 84mm Alox knives. They have so much potential as perfect backup/secondary tools. I'd love a Cadet X, but even better would be with scissors and the can opener replaced with an awl or a package opener.
Well, I really appreciate you watching. If there is something you disagree with me about, let me know. You might be able to change my mind. Thanks for your views.
Always loved the size and look of the cadet just missing scissors. May pick one up one of these days. great review 👍
Thank you.
Still prefer sportsman better, got the same tools plus tweezer, toothpick, reamer and corkscrew. The weight is lighter, and almost half of the cadet's price. Cellidor is fine for me.
Same here, SAK Sportsman gets a lot of pocket time. Not sure how true it is, but had heard that the 84 mm scissor machine had broken many years ago. At that point they decide not to repair/replace the machine. Very said they did that.
@@scotts.1401 Is that so? At least they still make scissors for 85 mm Delemont series, Wenger scissor rules!
Cadet-X! Yes!! Now THAT would be an awesome little knife! I'd buy 1 or 2... or 8 or 10... 👍😁
I frequently carry an alox cadet and really like it. It's small and light enough to even carry in the pocket of light-weight shorts. I filed off the key ring nub on mine. A great EDC for an average guy on an average day.
I completely agree. I think it is a great EDC option for a large contingent of people.
NICE grid backdrop Ben. What a great idea! 🤓
It certainly was, thanks again for the suggestion.
@@txtoolcrib Absolutely. Hey, maybe put a Texas Highway Patrol badge or a small Texas desk flag in one of the corners of the frame? Adds the Texas touch you wanted to have.
I’ve been carrying a cadet every day for ten years and love it. I would really like a version with scissors, but would want some modifications to keep it to two layers. This would likely mean going with the combo tool like on the Classic and possibly losing the nail file (maybe it could still fit?). For now, I get around the lack of scissors by also carrying a Leatherman Style CS, which also gets me a longer driver and tweezers. The Style PS would work as well (they don’t carry the CS anymore) and would add small pliers and wire cutters. A Micra or a Victorinox classic would also be a good pairing.
The Cadet is such a pocket friendly size. So delightfully short, thin, and lightweight. For me, anything under 3.5 inches can go right in that little fifth pocket. That way it doesn't need a pocket clip, and won't wind up sideways at the bottom of your hip pocket without one. I would definitely buy an "X" version of this knife. Hopefully, it would be a new 84mm version of the Victorinox scissors, though, and not the 84mm Wenger scissors with the tension bar and the serrations.
Thanks for the great review. I know that I should get several Victorinox, but something always comes up. Like the Tops El Chete, or the Zombie Tools Reaver Cleaver. I have purchased both the Crunch & the Mut from watching your reviews. I don't understand why you don't have at least 100k subs, you're both interesting and insightful. I promise I'll buy some Victorinox.
That's very humbling, thank you. What I strive to be most is honest. I don't want to sell everybody every single thing, I want to inform people of what is out there so that they can buy what is right for them. I really hope you are enjoying the Leatherman Crunch and MUT. The Crunch is a fantastic specialty tool in my opinion and the MUT is quite simply the coolest multi tool ever produced.
Daniel Guadian i think there's some Vics on sale for Prime day, if you use Amazon. Try using the affiliate link!
@@GabeMacDonnell Thank you for the tip. I will head over that way. Be safe, be well....
@@txtoolcrib Once I held the Mut in hand that reality set in, it really is fantastic. Keep the reviews rolling. Be safe, be well.
The cadet with a pair of scissors would be the perfect EDC for me, agree. And i would instantly get also a sportsman (basically... A cadet plus back tools and scale tools) with added scissors. Shame they don't do 84mm size scissors.
For the nail file, agree it's much better than the secondary blade, not only for grooming, but also... It's a pretty much perfect flat Philips driver for smaller size screws.
For the can opener... I see your point ,claw style is better if you look at it as a... Can opener! But honestly, who opens tin cans with a tool nowadays? While Victorinox can opener is basically the best "delicate" pry tool around, and doubles as a small flat head and a medium size Phillips screwdriver, for these reasons it's basically one of my favourite tools, would actually be perfect if sharpened in the back, like a opening hook
I really enjoy your reviews, thank you. Your point about these not having scissors is the same as mine, although the extra layer’s added width would impact how slim they are in the pocket. So... I have in my head the solution of “modular” Swiss Army Knives. Basically, all SAKs have the Cadet as their basis. (I know there’s differences: length, second blade vs file, corkscrew/Phillips/nothing etc. but you get the idea.) For me, a complementary “knife” would be fantastic: it would contain no blade or opening layers, but things like scissors, pliers, in-line Phillips etc. That way, the increasing width could be distributed across two tools and therefore two pockets. I know it goes against the very idea of a multi tool, but for me the practicality would be interesting. I’ve toyed with the idea of modding my Deluxe Tinker so that it would lose its Cadet tools, but always chicken out! Great review as always.
Thank you sir I really appreciate that.
I just ordered the red colored alox cadet. Since there are no scissors, I can pair it a keychain with scissors like the SD, Rambler, Manager or the Mini champ. Thanks for the video.
You’re very welcome. Thanks for taking the time to watch.
I recently got this knife as my first Alox. I do miss the scissors, but you gotta love the thinness and lack of weight to it. $25 well spent.
Hard to beat, that’s for sure.
Great content as always Ben.
I have a cadet in a hitch and timber wallet with a fisher space pen. Due the silly laws here in the UK the cadet is just the best EDC knife for me. I would change it for a cadet X.
I have been interested in Hitch & Timber for a while now. How do you like your wallet?
Best EDC wallet I have ever used. Very tight to start with but as time goes by all your items fit perfectly. I have the card caddy and it will take a Victorinox cadet, fisher space pen and four cards. Their products are a little more expensive than what you normally see on Etsy but it worth every penny. Hitch and timber wallets just ooze quality.
It’s perfect for me as I don’t use cash.
Lots of calls here in the comments section for Vic to make a Cadet X or even a Cadet without opener layers but with scissors...so a nailfile, blade and scissors...just an enlarged Classic (not SD if if the nailfile is pointed). I don't see so much utility in a nailfile - but maybe a real file. Anyway I think a winner would be to add scissors to the Bantam instead, so it would only be 2 layers, but the combitool would give you more utility - bottle opener/flathead and can opener/Phillps in a pinch. I say in a pinch because I have a GAK and using the combitool on a Phillips at an angle is pretty awkward.
I really like the look and how slim alox models are but for me an absence of a corkscrew is a dealbreaker. I'm not such a wine drinker but it happens to me quite often that other people need it. I can't imagine saying "no" to the question "Does anybody have a corkscrew?" while having my SAK in my pocket/bag :D
Could not agree with you more, a Cadet X would make an awesome SAK
I simply wish they'd replace the file with the awl/reamer and make, essentially, an 84 mm Pioneer. The awl is such a good tool.
Great review! That 2020 blue colour is amazing.
Some reasons I like the Wengers. Nail file on most, slimmer than the ‘plastic’ Vics and they are 85mm. (Quality isn’t quite as good tho).
Yeah, I really liked that blue.
Ben!
Should I say it again? ....... Excellent review!
I don't own a Cadet but a Pioneer X is at my belt. Is a quite perfect tool for me. Most of the time I incorporate a Surge (if working) or Swisstool ( casual) as combo in leather Sheaths made in Russia by a very good cobbler (shalavinleathercraft in Etsy).
Sometimes when going just around the houses I noticed the only MT need it is the Pioneer X. Had all basic tools.
Greeting , Sir! Take a Tequila shoot after the video you deserve it!
Thank you very much. I agree with you about the Pioneer X. I love that knife. I really like the awl and larger scissors. It also pairs nicely with the Surge and SwissTool. I love the Alox awls because they are on the end of the knife instead of centered. I just think they are much more practical like that. I appreciate you taking the time to watch. Salud!
Hi! I wrote several times to Victornox making the same suggestion about the scissors, but not reply for the moment. Thx!
Hammer them on Instagram.
I prefer the Sportsman. Same length and toolset as the Cadet but has the corkscrew, awl, tweezers and toothpick. Very pocketable and more versatile than the Cadet.
I picked up an apocolypse green, alox harvester from my local pawn shop the other day. I for the life of me couldn't find any information on it until I looked up special editions on the victorinox website...but...the thing is, the one on the website has the normal keyring loop on it. Mine does not. No mill marks or anything to tell if it was cut off or customized or anything like that. Do you Kno anything about this? Is it common to have a ringless SAK? Apparently this was released in 2014, so any info would be awesome!
There were a group of special editions that Victorinox put out that excluded the key rings. Though I don’t remember the year for certain. I was thinking it was 2012.
Never picked up a Cadet, would this be a good keychain carry over a classic SD with the toothpick and tweezers?
I like this one, but if you still want to keep you scale tools then you should look at the Sportsman. It utilizes the same tools as the Cadet with the addition of scale tools and you get a awl and corkscrew on the back side. I like these size of tools because I personally feel like the 58mm knifes are just a bit too small. Unfortunately, there are no scissors not he 84mm tools. That would be the only downside.
Theres a lot to like about these alox versions but ultimately the lack of scale tools is a deal-breaker for me. The tweezers are half the reason why I carry my Compact or Classic on any given day. Victorinox tools are great auxiliary options (backups, as you say) to carry along with a heavier-duty knife or pliers-based multitool, but the truth is theres a lot of jobs that I don't trust those thin little pieces of 4116 to handle. But I never regret having a pair of tweezers nestled away in my pocket. Or those little scissors, which really are great.
I understand completely. Now if they would just make Alox versions that incorporated scale tools! The best of both worlds. I couldn't hand over my credit card fast enough. LOL
@@txtoolcrib check out Victorinox Swisscards! It is a great option to have with most alox models.
I certainly will, thank you.
it would be great if the scissors were on the back side so that it did not need another layer.
Nice video
Thank you.
@@txtoolcrib I ordered my first cadet today. Black Alox. Hopefully arrives tomorrow.
I'd buy a bantam x or cadet x for every member of my family if they made them
Drop it in you pocket! Does it look like your happy to see... You get the point!
Geest review i Like the cadet, i use nail fail for opening letters.
BR.
Thank you sir.
White? Never seen a white Cadet, except for custom mods maybe.
I even heard that you cannot anodize aluminium white, that would have to be a coating.
Yeah, I misspoke on that point. My mistake.
Your Cadet is an older model, the ones made since 2018 have another nail file design.
What type of files do the newer models have?
@@txtoolcrib Like this: th-cam.com/video/tf67apDn-8M/w-d-xo.html
@@miklospinter what file would you guys say is better ????🤔 Thanks guys 🇨🇭👍🏻
@@name5949 I guess it's personal preference. Some people say the new one is better, others like the old one more. For fingernails the old one might be better, for other stuff I like that the edges are not flat but also textured
Pair the Cadet with a Knipex Cobra XS and put a lot of larger, heavier plier-based multitools to shame.
Another great vid, Thanks. Have to agree with you Ben on a "Cadet X" Alox SAK being a most useful and personable package.
I got a custom "Cadet X" made up some years ago and when in use it has me thinking why Victorinox don't release such a great tool.
Here's a pic of mine ... i.imgur.com/Vd0qsbk.jpg
I would love to see yours, would you mind emailing it to me at txtoolcrib@gmail.com
Your link is working now. I love that knife, I'm so jealous. Where were you able to get that made custom? That is something I would be very interested in. If you could spare it for a little bit, I would love to feature your knife on the channel as well.
@@txtoolcrib PM sent
@@haywoodf I’m interested too! Thanks
@@guillemperez Posso scrivere in Italiano?
they ruined this knife by changing the nail file on the new versions.
Do you have experience with both?
Pioneer x>>>>>>>>> cadet