Are CoBots the FUTURE of the Small Shop?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 27 ก.ย. 2024
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Collaborative Robots are INSANELY cool. Are they the future of your shop? We traveled to ATI Industrial Automation to spend a week playing with their tooling and these robots to find out. The advancements in this technology are coming way faster than you think. CNC didn’t become available to the home shop until 2012 and I think the tech available for the robots means an even steeper growth curve for the collaborative robot industry. They can literally do anything and I am so excited to have one (or three) of these in my shop. I also firmly believe they aren’t taking jobs but making them faster, safer and more enjoyable. Let me know what you’d like to see next. Thanks for watching! Please like, comment and subscribe. Cheers!
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I'm actively searching for a robot that can throw a workpiece against the wall for me when I cut it short.
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😂😂😂😂😂 this comment deserves way more likes
Me being in a wheelchair, if I decide to take woodworking more seriously and end up with a shop, it would be cool to have a robot that can hold heavy/long boards for me! What a great video!
I would agree that this will be useful to anyone with disabilities.
Nah, you gotta make a wheel chair attachment so it can move you around the workpiece, lmao.
@@TheMookie1590 hahaha
If you ever buy a robot and need help, let me know
Robots will become as regular as dvd players soon enough it they will never fade away
Had a job years ago installing and programming robots and other automation. It was the only way we could compete with cheap products from Mexico. In the last year my wife had both knees replaced by robot. They mapped her knee with a CT scan then a robot stabilized and did the work while a surgeon just observed and made sure the robot didn’t mess up! Cut way down on healing time and the pt needed afterwards.
The production value on this video was phenomenal! The time and effort this must have taken was well worth it. Between 3D printers, CNC, and now these bots dropping in price and necessary expertise, it's an exciting time to be a maker of any kind. I can definitely see a future where these machines sit beside table saws, jointers, and hand planes in a shop and all are used appropriately.
Thanks for the video and keep up the great work!
I was quietly geeking out this entire video. I am still trying to work on my wife on getting a CNC, now got to plant the seed for a robot
Ask for the robot instead, and maybe she'll agree to the CNC.
Love the intro. Come on Dude we have done this 4 times and you pull this stunt. Classic JKatz.
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I can definitely see having one of those arms mounted on the end of the workbench for sanding and finishing. What I really want to see is one of these arms "hand-cut" dovetails. As much as I like hand-cutting dovetails, when you're building a dresser with 100+ it can get very tedious.
Such a cool opportunity to tour the facility. It’s a amazing what opportunities come our way by just having a TH-cam channel. Our influence reaches so many.
Awesome company. Thanks for the tour
Even though owning this type of equipment will never apply to me personally as I'm just a hobbyist who does some woodworking/making for fun. I still very much love and appreciate all your content that you clearly put alot of effort into putting out. Your videos are still some of my favorite to watch. You keep me inspired and I thank you for that.
Thank you my friend! We put a lot into this one
JKATZ the opening for this was hilarious 😂. Pretty amazing what they’ve developed and can totally see the unlimited possibilities with these. Also love that you’re always improving and looking for ways to push beyond where you/we currently are. Thanks!
Love the topic and the video, though I wish the sanding demonstration wasn't disrupted by jump cuts and effects. If anything, I'd like that in slow motion from multiple angles. Neat tech!
I've had the privilege of working with robots of many shapes and sizes, from the ABB Yumi up the the last one I did was a Kuka with a 450kg payload capability. It is amazing even when you work with them regularly to see the accuracy, acceleration and deceleration they are capable of.
You're forgetting the first microcontroller electric robot by ABB in 1979. ABB is also the largest manufacturer of robots and the only manufacturer with a location in the United States. Right in Auburn Hill Michigan.
Watched the whole video before making a Jeremy Fielding comment, glad I did. Dude is amazing.
I agree with your observation that these tools will magnify our (human) efforts as manufacturing continues to evolve with population and resource constraints. You're living in the present and planning for the future of manufacturing JKM. Thanks for sharing!
Awesome video. Those are some amazing machines!
They had a ton of these cobots sanding, painting, routing, etc. At AWFS last week. They were really neat. 80k-120k just for the robot is a little out of my price range currently though lol
UR cobots starts from 25k EUR. How is it possible to hit 80 or up to 120k for a single cobot unit!?
@@zieglu I actually had a company call me after the show. I was wrong. They start around 20k$ US
Who wouldn't want a robot for sanding in the shop?!! 😁
Super cool video, I can’t wait to see where this technology goes in the future!
Robots are awesome. We have a couple of their machines in our plant. We utilize them to move hot glass, pack shipping containers & there is a current effort underway to automate moving ware around our plant. Always have to stop & watch them work for a while when I walk by. Pretty impressive.
Thanks for sharing this information. Helps me to think where I can be in business in 20 years. It seems people are divided on if this is real woodworking or not. Think about this... Imagine having a thriving business and you had an employee sanding cabinet faces all day. Do you consider that "real woodworking"? Why not let a robot do it. Also do you not use power tools? It's funny people complaining like they use hand tools for everything in the shop.
Contact are good for future of small shops but I think it's about 30-50 years away for average woodworker
Time to research this. Awesome stuff. I can totally see these becoming the CNC machines we use one day.
Thanks for the vid man. Well done.
Loved the video. Really interesting topic. It's good to see something unique to the various woodworking TH-camrs. Well done relating the topic to your target audience. I didn't think I would be that interested at first but you did a great job getting me to imagine all of the ways I could use these robots in the future.
Great stuff Jonathan! Thank you for the in-depth look at this technology. It’s fascinating how this can change how things are done on so many levels. In so many industries. I had no idea you could get a sander-bot!! Loved the video. :)
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I'd love to see an update on this. I was looking at CNC and thought there must be Robot arms out there doing it. Yours was the only video I found around woodworking. I'm sure a lot has changed in two years.
Long time follower and small investor in your products. Not to be negative as I love robotics, if robots complete your projects for you, whats the difference in your product verse Ikea other than material used. So much gets copied anymore the value of your product reduces. No emotion goes in to the fabrication, flaws that give it character thats a part of you.
Amazing video Jonathan, very high production value and a great topic to cover! :)
I believe this is the video you were talking about, right?
@@PapaFlammy69 yeah this is the one. Thanks so much brother!
@@katzmosestools Awesome =) Hopefully we can soon get started with our project! :)
Papa flammy? Is that you?
@@samp-w7439 Yeye :p
CNCs in the home shop we’re wayyyyyyyyy before 2012, maybe not to you since you were not in the market prior but even as early as late 90s
Hey man, nice video!
The FANUC M900 you are stating can pick up 7000kg, can only do 700kg 🙂
However the M2000iA series has a robot capable of 2300kg
FANUC makes the world's heaviest payload industrial and collaborative robots.
I worked on a FANUC controller. It was our only one among many. Its nickname was: "Fucking Annoying, Notorious Unreliable Controller."
I am currently building a robot that NOBODY makes/sells. I’m very excited about this build and plan on releasing a prototype sometime this year
As a very early adopter of the X-Carve, I have witnessed firsthand the progression of acceptance. I look forward to my first cobot!
With that intro, I didn't know if I was watching Katz-Moses or Deus Ex! Super awesome stuff man.
let's not forget the Maslow CNC for $500 for a 8ft x 4ft! I think the pushback is rooted in the begged question of if the repetitive/mundane/boring aspects of woodworking (like sanding) is now a main draw for the hobbyist.
Interesting Video Jonathan.... I enjoyed it!
My favorite TH-camr visiting my home state!! Very cool!!
This is certainly an inspiring video! I know there are already 3d printable robot arm designs on the internet. The missing piece, for me, is the lack of good open source software to control them like GRBL only for robot arms.
Johnathan this will be absolutely awesome IF you can get one that will listen to the missus and the constant waffling on and take this chore away from my life then hell I'll have two of them because I know she will definitely break at least one of them!!! As always buddy 💯% 👍 🇬🇧.
85 years since Charlie Chaplin’s Modern Times and we have finally caught up to the point where robots can spill hot coffee in your lap. I thought this day would never come!
wow...not a single "skynet" reference in any of the main comments...c'mon :P but before I terminate this comment, let me say...fantastic video showing the leading tech's vision for many , many industries....robots don't steal jobs, they can , infact , make many peoples lives easier and bring down costs for consumers. Does this stop people like one of us from working with their hands? No , it does not .. great and informative vid.
This was awesome!! Thank you for all your amazing work.
Anyone who runs a small production business should jump at the chance to buy one of these when the upfront costs are affordable enough to justify for their business (assuming your business isn't predicated on human hand craftsmanship). Anything that acts as a force multiplier is only going to pay itself off, and that's the whole point of tools to begin with. We didn't invent circular saws because there wasn't a way to cut wood before, we invented them because they were a way to do it better and faster and with more consistency.
Amen!
Ok , I want to hang out with these people.
Great video Johnathan!
So freaking cool!
Dude. You're the man. Great video. Not a fan of automation but can't fight progress and this is an eye opening perspective.
As William Gibson wrote, the future is here today, it’s just not evenly distributed yet.
I was lucky to be able to play with a Universal Robot arm for few days, this things are amazing
Love it man. Thanks for the personal shout out. Best birthday ever! I am just down the road and I can't wait till we bump into each other. @805customcabinets
I just moved to that area. There are tons of cool and innovative things happening there.
Mozey, I opened the video thinking this was a joke or a stretch, but you convinced me.
Thanks Jonathan! This video was so cool. I can't wait to see more.
I eventually want a large CNC to do slab flattening, but a couple of these collab robots could do the flattening, initial sanding, and potentially rough shaping all automated, also depending on the lift capacity they could flip it too. That could all be happening while I'm working on bases or other detailed work. Could really be a game changer for small/medium sized business shops to increase productivity.
100%
I am currently working with a large robot to mill metal parts. Must say quite tedious than what the manufacturers and sellers claim.
The software running in this video is deceptive. For a robot to make an intelligent decision in a manufacturing environment without advanced specialized programming... better be a long production run and once that robot is dead its a brick. Gears run out
I´m yet to complete my first small selfmade cnc. Imaging these robots to do all the really mundane stuff, as you said, would be so great to streamline the projects. Like, you saw the slabs, lay them over to the table with the robot. Robot sands, cuts grooves, etc as you prepare the next slabs.
Yeah they're completely capable of that now.
I´m amazed. What a time to be alive.
Hopefully the price will good for us hobby woodworkers.
Fantastic
That’s some pretty cool gear. Thanks for the video Jonathan👍.
I like all things cool, and robots are cool
Great video!
me: buys $10000 robot
Also me: only programs it to scratch my back
U know at one time I bet woodworkers said a table saw, router, any power tool for that matter was "cheating"
I'm thinking you can production-ize workbench tops with perfect benchdog holes. With 1 thou accuracy! I'm sure there's a market for it.
Awesome video! It really does feel like a peek into the near future
should've got them to send you home with one
Such an interesting video amd a small look into the future. Thanks
Tech is amazing as soon as you showed the orbital sander my mind thought it would be cool if it would run a belt sander. My only issue with automation in woodworking is at some point the flaws go away so the character of the piece does as well.... it is really fascinating where we have come. I used to run a HAAS 5 axis mill 30years ago and I thought then how cool this would be in my shop... it was a $60k machine now this arm can basically replace that machine! Awesome for sure.
you are trading one problem for many more compound problems with a robot arm. Elon Musk in the last year tried to get rid of 1000 robots and replace with gigapress. What a nightmare of programming and software errors and decision making that people should be doing instead.
I, for one, welcome our new robot overlords.
You could just get an auto feeder for a jointer... I'm all for robots and using them everywhere we can. But an auto feeder has been available for years and is much less expensive.
Yeah but this thing could feed it through the jointer, planer and tablesaw all while I'm at lunch. Way more fun that way.
@@katzmosestools what if something goes wrong lol does it have a camera and exterior sensor suite? no
I'll be interested when it can detect and change it's own sand paper lol
That already exists and is in the field. It's pretty cool. Uses these little needles
Actually, we have that capability for the ATI Robotic Sander. Check it out! www.ati-ia.com/AOVMediaChange
I want one.
Nice video, Jonathan. Thanks!
Killer intro
Cool video. I look forward to having a robotic shop buddy!
Our fucking future.
that intro almost made me wet my pants! 😂
I do need a robot.
Very informative tks
Amazing video, as alaways. Loved the intro and smooth b-roll. I’d love to use one of those robotic arms to mount my camera to for more strategic shots. My current edelkrone system is nice, but this could work so much better. I can also think of a ton of other uses having an extra “hand” around the shop. I’d also love to hook up my own sensors to it if there is an SDK. Can’t wait to see how you’re able to integrate it into your workflow in the future.
I'm the guy who programmed the demo of the cabinet door sanding portion of the video, we mount cameras to that robot all the time and you can get all kinds of crazy shots. The car hood sanding shot in this video is actually a good example of this!
@@hillstudios that’s incredible. I can’t wait to buy one someday specially for camera movements and creative video tricks. But I could also imagine building 3D printing nozzles for it... or even just programming it to have voice control for a number of tasks based on the attachment used. Very cool, Josh. While I might not be able to afford one for my home shop just yet (might need to film a few more TH-cam videos first), I’ll work to see if I can obtain funds to buy one for the makerspace that I built at a local college.
Haven’t you people ever seen a movie? This is how it all ends. Seriously though, this is cool AF.
robots and automation is definitely an advantage and the future in all the industries
on the other hand AI will bite our hand one day too. there are always 2 ends of the stick.
Wood manufacturers just missing their collective pants
If you are a worker and invest yourself a cobot. The boss will be shocked
The end is nigh.
Jk this is so awesome! Can't wait to have one in my house!
It's all fun and games until you have a terminator crashing thru your door.
deburring is a process highly suited to robotic automation, many others arent
Take my money
So now that I’m obsessed with this cobot - how much is it?
Roughly $30k
how much is that setup you were using ?
RE: the intro, great stuff! Check out the haircut robot from Stuff Made Here
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He's mentioned in this video. Love his stuff
In the future we won't even have to go to our workshops. Just sit in front of a computer all day. Erm. No. CNC is a stretch and this is a bridge too far. Hmmm, I seem to be the only commenter who's not turned on by this tech, and my day job is a programmer in the tech world!
When I think about how hard it is/was to purchase a used tablesaw, of any quality and you throw out a price of "only" ten thousand dollars I can't see how the small home woodworker can ever possibly afford this technology.
My CNC produces $2-3k worth of product a week and doesn't get a paycheck. Seems affordable to me when you consider the use case. Theres CNCs for the pure hobbyist that cost less than a planer. The point is, that same machine was $50,000- $100,000 dollars 10 years ago. I used to worry about the cost of a tablesaw when I started this business 5 years ago but as my business grew I started to worry about the tools I could buy that increase revenue and profit. Everyone's journey is different but if you think that your needs won't change over time you should dream bigger. Today's concerns lead to tomorrow's growth.
@@katzmosestools I agree with everything you are saying. But I wish some one would really talk about the amount of time it takes to dial in everything from design to fixtures. It is not about the technology replacing other work flows it is about completely re writing the book which manufacturing has done over 60 years ago.
Thanks for all the work that it took to make the video and glad that more people know about what is possible.
Cool and all but it sure does take the skills out of handskills.
so where did the Katz go? Is he still on the air?...
Hahaha I've been busy. We will be back this Sunday
Well I can't wait! Thanks for answering me it means a lot
If these robots are so good why aren’t they uses them in their own shop! /s
If they can dovetail, then surely this is the end of the small scale furniture maker? Why buy from a small shop when the bigger company can do the same thing for half the price.
Innovation is very cool and needed. But does anyone else get this small twinge of primal fear when you see a robot doing very “human” things? Maybe just me.
look up twig and bot on instagram they are using a robotic arm in there shop
Unfortunately, this robot has not yet been able to knock over the plank lying on the table.
i’m trying my hardest to like this and come to terms with the way the world is going but i just can’t😂 i saw 3d printed houses the other day🤦🏾♂️ as a carpenter i hate to see it