Manhattan Circuit Construction Technique for Homebrew Ham Radios

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  • This Manhattan Circuit Construction Technique for Homebrew Ham Radios is very common with ham radio homebrewers. Doug DeMaw, W1FB, wrote an article titled ”Quick-and-Easy Circuit Boards for the Beginner” detailing construction using what is referred to as dead bug or ugly construction. In the same article by Doug DeMaw, Figure 3 shows the use of printed circuit board squares glued to the main printed circuit board. The squares are used to solder component leads to for common electrical and mechanical connections. This technique is attributed to Wes Hayward, W7ZOI, and Wes suggested using hot glue as a fixitive to hold the pads in place.
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  • @E-raticWarrior
    @E-raticWarrior 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +26

    This gives "HUGE GROUND PLANE" a new meaning.

  • @skuula
    @skuula 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I like using SMD components on that board you can get with islands in a 0.1 inch raster. You can naively design and build, and it just works up to half a GHz or so, without any regard for stray reacrances.

  • @marco_0599
    @marco_0599 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I use a much better way than this but it is along the same lines, I use a 8 or 10mm mirror tube drill to just take the surface copper off the board leaving a circular pad to solder components to. Tube drills are hollow in the centre with an abrasive edge. Its easier with a press drill and takes minutes to cut many 'islands'. Use double sided copper clad boards to keep the RF shielding.

  • @cbmech2563
    @cbmech2563 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +77

    In high-school electronics shop class we etched the circuit into the copper and then drilled into the board to attach the components after covering the copper with solder

    • @BlankBrain
      @BlankBrain 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      I did too. I think the point of this construction is to have a good ground plain for high frequency or low noise applications. I wouldn't use super glue though.

    • @ArneChristianRosenfeldt
      @ArneChristianRosenfeldt 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@BlankBrainpcb has two sides. You could just not cut into the other side. Drill holes, go through, solder. This video already mounts stuff on the surface. PCB makes this easier. I like wires in the air. Nothing has lower k.

    • @Bobsmith-yf9oy
      @Bobsmith-yf9oy 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      That's far better than this nonsense.

    • @hipihei
      @hipihei 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      ​@@Bobsmith-yf9oyThis ground plane technique allows circuits to work up to high uhf bands and lower microwaves.. with many other techniques one has to really know rf pcb design.. I've never had a problem with unstable circuits..also it's quite easy to manage return currents to minimize emi. But yes..not my go to way to make other type of circuits at home

    • @BeesKneesBenjamin
      @BeesKneesBenjamin 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Bobsmith-yf9oy RF design is often quite an iterative process. Ofcourse if you use a tested schematic from someone else, etching would work very well. But many HAMs design their own circuitry from scratch for components they have on hand. Usually you draw up something, and start correcting values, adding extra components, moving them around etc until your circuit does what you want it to do. Simulating doesn't work anymore here, paracitic inducantces and capacitances play a large role now too.
      Obviously most of these cases you need only one of such device, you already made something that's probably quite sturdily built, so there's no point to go through the whole process to etch a PCB anymore. It's a super popular technique that's been in use for decades for prototyping.
      Just go dig up some pictures of circuit design techniques from engineers like Bob Pease, maybe one of the most influential analog engineers in the silicon domain to have ever lived, he'd build discrete chip designs just like this technique to debug everything before translating it into a chip, a lot of them still being in production today. I personally have built equipment with this technique that's been going for over a decade now, weekly use, never had any trouble because it was mechanically inferior.

  • @wolfy9005
    @wolfy9005 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +198

    For those wondering, this is for circuit where you need a huge ground plane. Anything high frequency, radio stuff, filters, etc. If you think a regular perf board will work, this technique is beyond your knowledge level for now

    • @samshanker5753
      @samshanker5753 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      👍

    • @peeniewalli
      @peeniewalli 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Than is point-to‐point wiring or components to same points also better for amps i take it. ( like the 60s gitar-tubeamps build. With a hardboard layout ,one row of point on top and one row at other end everything 'zig-zag' to many common points . Everything as short in distance as possible the tube wire twined and solid metal casing were al ground/mass conects to.
      Or is this tech in vid essentially different?

    • @digitaldreamer5481
      @digitaldreamer5481 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Will this board somehow give me a “ground” while living in a Waikiki high rise that has no real ground with all the PVC that’s been used for plumbing repairs? 🤔

    • @mpmansell
      @mpmansell 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +40

      For those wondering, this guy's arrogance places courtesy and good manners well beyond their knowledge level.

    • @rezavarghayi8181
      @rezavarghayi8181 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      There's pretty much zero advantage of this over just etching a circuit on a pcb with a ground copper pour. Less wasted time and money too

  • @mydogbrian4814
    @mydogbrian4814 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +40

    - Reminds me of the old;
    " *HEATH KIT.* "
    days.

    • @thomas-i5o7h
      @thomas-i5o7h 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I used this technique for a radio project I built many years ago. It worked very well. I drew the grid of lines onto the board, then used a hacksaw blade to cut away the lines leaving isolated squares on the board. Then soldered each component in place on the appropriate squares. And it worked !

    • @miket2120
      @miket2120 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@thomas-i5o7h Back in high school I used a slightly different method. I'd score the board with a utility knife then uses a laminate cutting knife to cut away the copper. They made a nice V cut through the copper as it was pulled.

    • @thomas-i5o7h
      @thomas-i5o7h 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@miket2120 ; That's great !! It's always so cool to build a project entirely by hand from scratch and have it work !!

    • @robbarbour4642
      @robbarbour4642 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      My Heathkit projects still work and look a lot better I do want a new digital oscilloscope but my Heathkit is an old friend

  • @JonathanKayne
    @JonathanKayne 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +43

    Another technique you can do is use a Dremel tool to remove the copper to make the islands. It took a while for my manhattans chowder tin from QRP me to arrive so I ended up using that for a transceiver project I’ve been working on.

    • @absalomdraconis
      @absalomdraconis 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Doesn't work with solid metal, which matters because sometimes people will use the metal of a case as part or all of the ground, while you can pretty much always cut any copper-clad that you have into small pieces for use as the "islands" in Manhatten style.

    • @absalomdraconis
      @absalomdraconis 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      A relative is Dead-Bug style, where essentially you glue down the sonductive top of an IC, then solder to it's legs. Dead bug is highly compatible with Manhatten style.

    • @SmallSpoonBrigade
      @SmallSpoonBrigade 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You can also use a laser to vaporize the bits of copper you don't need. It's a bit less of a mess, but the equipment buy in is a lot more.

    • @gblargg
      @gblargg 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Would probably have a little lower capacitance than "Manhattan" construction.

  • @tommyt414
    @tommyt414 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +35

    Ive never once seen it done like this, and I've worked with a lot of old home made electronics.

    • @JonathanKayne
      @JonathanKayne 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      Manhattan style is great for RF projects since you have that massive ground plane. Using protoboard can sometimes create parasitic capacitance that you might not want

    • @michaellegg9381
      @michaellegg9381 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Breadboards under the plastic have big ground plains and positive power rails... Works just as good and if you need a bigger ground for signal you can literally just add a chunk of thin copper tape and wire it to the ground rail.. ​@@JonathanKayne

    • @nickbalashov1780
      @nickbalashov1780 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      About 40 years ago, at my start in radio, I used the same technics ... 😊

    • @ferrumignis
      @ferrumignis 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@michaellegg9381Absolutely not, breadboards are pretty much the worst possible choice for any high speed digital or RF projects. They have considerable parasitic capacitance between each row and they don't have anything approaching a ground plane.

  • @2DE808
    @2DE808 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Don't forget to keep the lead lengths short. Oh, nevermind.....

  • @NotSure416
    @NotSure416 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

    Thank you! I literally asked this question yesterday. This makes a lot of sense. Having a good ground plane is very important for sensitive circuitry.

  • @danpedersen55
    @danpedersen55 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    I think it's because of the purpose, ham radio. The ground plane is very important, when it's RF you're working with. Maybe not much of an explanation, but that's my conclusion. I also think it looks awesome 👍

    • @ArneChristianRosenfeldt
      @ArneChristianRosenfeldt 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      So a ground plane is going from very low resistance to very high resistance without much of a gradient in between. So copper, mirror polish surface , air. And most parts need a pin soldered to it anyway.
      Just, these parts are all so huge. Those long Leads have uFarrads of inductivity.

    • @antoniobaptista9136
      @antoniobaptista9136 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      ​@@ArneChristianRosenfeldtyou mean nHenry...

    • @ferrumignis
      @ferrumignis 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​@@ArneChristianRosenfeldtThe rule of thumb is 1nH/mm, so no, none of these components have microhenries of inductance in their leads.

  • @SimEon-jt3sr
    @SimEon-jt3sr 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    This is such a good technique for me. I like dead bug construction. Thanks for making this video.

  • @mihaim9568
    @mihaim9568 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    35 years ago there was a magazine "tehnics" every month they would print the layout for different boards and I used to carbon copy on the plate, insulate with tar and burn the rest off with acid, did you know we can build a radio with no power source? 😅

    • @tigerchills2079
      @tigerchills2079 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      radio with no power source.. wasn't that just a germanium diode on two long wires and a crystal speaker? I think that was for longwave stations?

    • @ferrumignis
      @ferrumignis 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@tigerchills2079With a suitable antenna and careful construction you can build a crystal set to receive short wave.

  • @SwingingChoke
    @SwingingChoke 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I’ve seen automotive radios from the 50s like this.

  • @jamesplotkin4674
    @jamesplotkin4674 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    In HS electronics class, we were told to leave maximum copper so the etching bath would last a lot longer.

  • @Pwecko
    @Pwecko 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Why do Americans always mispronounce the word "solder"? It's not sodder. It's solder. It rhymes with colder and bolder.

    • @lizlilly6756
      @lizlilly6756 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I don’t know. Why do people from the UK add an “f” sound to the pronunciation of Lieutenant?

    • @Pwecko
      @Pwecko 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @lizlilly6756 I have no idea. It's crazy.

    • @beyondwhatisknown
      @beyondwhatisknown 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      "Sodder" is how my Canadian dad said it back in the early '80s. He worked at IBM and got his job with no education because he passed their entrance test due to having electronics as a hobby as a kid and workiing in an electronics shop aa a teenager. He later became head of computer security for the biggest bank in the country and kept an eye on what hackers were capable of overcoming. "Sodder" is therefore the historical pronounciation.

  • @Dont_Gnaw_on_the_Kitty_1
    @Dont_Gnaw_on_the_Kitty_1 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    No need to cut squares, too much work. Use 'dead bug' and wire point to point.

    • @RedSummitRF
      @RedSummitRF  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It's a valid point depending on the use case.

  • @qwertykeyboard5901
    @qwertykeyboard5901 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Burnt superglue is the worst smell. Burns the eyes.

  • @TrapperAaron
    @TrapperAaron 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    What's the purpose of this vs a perforated thru hole tinned pcb?

    • @absalomdraconis
      @absalomdraconis 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      You can use the entire case as the ground plain.

    • @deang5622
      @deang5622 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@absalomdraconis Ground plane.

    • @ferrumignis
      @ferrumignis 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You get a solid ground plane and you can minimise component lead lengths (not so much in this video!).

  • @Iamshajii
    @Iamshajii หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This circuit used transistor numbers 🙏🏻

    • @RedSummitRF
      @RedSummitRF  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks for watching

  • @martinnielsen5851
    @martinnielsen5851 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    But why would you do that, when you can etch it, drill it, solder it and be done with it?
    I don't see the purpose.

    •  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Good for prototyping. No need to waste time on etching and where to ground.

    • @ArneChristianRosenfeldt
      @ArneChristianRosenfeldt 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Though this isn’t a prototype, but follows a text book.

  • @tomweickmann6414
    @tomweickmann6414 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Wow.
    A new way for me to screw things up.....😊

  • @dvs6121
    @dvs6121 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Why use a double sided copper clad board? It seems you only need a single ground plane.

    • @ArneChristianRosenfeldt
      @ArneChristianRosenfeldt 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Isn’t it a wet production process? How do you clad only a single side?

    • @ferrumignis
      @ferrumignis 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Double sided PCB stock is easier to find than single sided these days, but you are correct that single sided could be used.

  • @krisraps
    @krisraps 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I Just Use Double Sided Copper PCB Material, I Dremmel It , I Mean, I Deremmel The Squares In And Then Clip Them off And Solder To Any projectts I Have So There ARe Two Layers

  • @K.D.Fischer_HEPHY
    @K.D.Fischer_HEPHY 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I see some questions about the stray capacitance of those "MeSquares", so i did a little calculation.
    C=Eplison*(A/d), Epsilon is the product of the electric constant times the relativ permittivity of FR4 in this case which is about 4.4. A = Area of overlap of the 2 plates of the capacitor, which in this case is roughly 5x5mm per "MeSquare". d= distance between the plates which is commonly on FR4 boards 1.6mm. Lets put this all into SI metrics -> (8,5*10^-12)*(4,4)*(25*10^-6):(1,6*10^-3) = ~5.8*10^-13 Farads or around 0,6 pF per "MeSquare". Time this with 15 (i counted the last circuit board he showed) and you have about 9pF capacitance on the whole board added. Not a whole lot to be fair, but in very high frequencies (Gigahertz) this might matter.
    If you find an error in this calculation please do correct in the comments. ;-)

  • @johnhess351
    @johnhess351 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    This video is a product placement promotion. "Manhattan Construction" does not require a solid copper board or the special adhesive 'ME' pads and can be performed on old style breadboards. Manhattan Construction is just a method of positioning the leads and the components through more careful planning to facilitate shorter leads and neater arrangement.

  • @mariushmedias
    @mariushmedias 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    You can also "punch out" with a tool round copper discs from a copper clad circuit board and then glue those round discs to the board. I forget now the name of the tool but it's cheap and easy to find.

    • @ferrumignis
      @ferrumignis 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Called a 'hole punch'

  • @julianossowski1435
    @julianossowski1435 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    why bother? Today you can use PCB design sofware and have a circuit board professionally made on million $ machines in a Chinese factory and posted back to you within 3 weeks, less if you pay to have it couriered. And it will cost as much as a large pizza. Oh and BTW they can manufacture boards on various substrates including Rogers and PTFE which are suited to high frequency applications. So design it, and have a pro PCB in 3 weeks!

  • @michaellegg9381
    @michaellegg9381 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Or!! Just bare with me a minute BUY A CHEAP BREADBOARD!! it's way easier looks better and no glue that eventually breaks off from heat or age!! And costs around the same!! This kind of crap was ditched back in the dark ages!!!!

  • @DavidBuzz
    @DavidBuzz 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    its also called 'Dead bug' construction, which also allows gluing flat-sided components down with wires-up, soldering the joints in-the-air, and other easy and useful shenanegans.

  • @dheibeljr
    @dheibeljr 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Its 200x better than "dead bug" technique...I can't stand dead bug electronics. I mean...have some self respect. Several people in my physics dept made the ugliest, messiest, dead bug electronics for one of our big projects and not only did they not work but they looked like someone soldered together a bunch of trash from the labs garbage can. Wish they'd have used this technique instead, maybe their electronics would have actually worked.

  • @stickmenwithrayguns
    @stickmenwithrayguns 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    In the 1980's and maybe even before that, you could buy ready-made adhesive pads with soldering points. The product was called "Minimount".

  • @AleksServisMan
    @AleksServisMan 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Идиотизм… На медном слое можно просто прорезать разделяющие борозды, создав тем самым площадки для монтажа элементов. Техника монтажа в данном видео - это забивание гвоздя микроскопом.

  • @hafiz468
    @hafiz468 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    If solder for the Yankees is SODDER !
    Is a folder a FODDER ?! 😂
    Gold must be God
    Sold = sod
    Old = od
    Bold = bod
    Cold = cod
    Hold = hod
    Told = tod

  • @nchurly
    @nchurly 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Long time ago we used to scratch 10x10mm grid on copper clad board using a hook knife. Now i use Spice simulator for testing, then order PCB in China.

  • @Bobsmith-yf9oy
    @Bobsmith-yf9oy 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Jesus wept, its ugly, slow, expensive, unprofessional and unsuitable for anything using a chip. A Fail on all counts. Just why?

  • @josephuscila5223
    @josephuscila5223 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Im terrible at soldering. Always. A concern i have is that the electronic civiit will be overheated and fail when the hot solder melts onto it. Yet i watch as people calmly apply hot solder. And i have a 60 watt soldering gun ,brand truper, probably cheap demonic Chinese government counterfeit knockoffsnd the tips degrade and start ti disuntegrate and dint transfer enough heat to the flat tip of the soldering gun, thus ,poor technique on my part

  • @JoshuaJapitan
    @JoshuaJapitan 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    So everry node (point of connection) on that circuit diagram would be equivalent to one square then... 🤔🤔🤔

  • @feynthefallen
    @feynthefallen 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Why glue on bits? Why not just cut the copper into square sections and use that? Leave a ring or rail around the rim for power and ground. A scorer would do the trick.

  • @pcsurgeontheoriginal8015
    @pcsurgeontheoriginal8015 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I don't see the advantage to this considering pre drilled prototype boards are now cheap and I would imagine faster than this. I would expect it to be easier to solder.

  • @TheAechBomb
    @TheAechBomb 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    is there any reason this would be better than ordering boards, other than knowing you built it yourself, and maybe prototyping speed?

  • @lloydtshare
    @lloydtshare 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The gluing doesn't seem like a good idea, i would cut up a double-sided pcb and use that as pad then surface mount it to the ground plane

  • @wrongmouse1658
    @wrongmouse1658 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    You can also use 10 mega ohm resistors for pads for some circuits.

  • @interbudelblag
    @interbudelblag หลายเดือนก่อน

    It is an easy way to replicate a schematic into pcb. It also gives a great amount of ground plane

  • @lexeindhoven
    @lexeindhoven 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    For those who cannot design a printer circuit board.. this is more expensive than ordering one these days

  • @acidfilth2007
    @acidfilth2007 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Anybody make audi circuits with this or would they be more prone to interference

  • @fujiwaraofmokou
    @fujiwaraofmokou 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Looks like a gigantic waste of copper that should be used for wiring instead.

  • @DolezalPetr
    @DolezalPetr 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Nah, just drill circular islands or just straight up use a dremmel tool to create your islands and thats it, much better

  • @lancerudy9934
    @lancerudy9934 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Can not subscribe to this channel. Why????????😢😢😢😢😢😢

  • @Berryservices
    @Berryservices 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    th-cam.com/video/vq968AFgPhg/w-d-xo.html this video shows another method to the one onthis video

  • @johnwarwick4105
    @johnwarwick4105 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Looks rubbish to me. Why not use vero strip much easier and way neater

  • @David0lyle
    @David0lyle 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Super interesting!!

  • @Chinhnguyen0497
    @Chinhnguyen0497 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    the hell. who asked? etching pcb are better, easier, faster, cleaner

  • @tigerchills2079
    @tigerchills2079 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    you can also cut off a piece and make small islands with the cut-off piece. if the board is double-sided, you can even solder the islands on instead of gluing them. only make sure that the solder is only on the bottom, maintaining an isolated plane on top

  • @dudasertorio
    @dudasertorio 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Does not make any sense IMHO. Just over working. Glues conductive piece OVER another conductive plate ???

    • @Ferraday
      @Ferraday 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      There is a fiberglass substrate between the two copper pads on those squares

  • @terranovarain6570
    @terranovarain6570 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    pretty neat will keep this in mind instead of perf board if im doing a radio project
    that ground plane would really help with shielding ❤

    • @absalomdraconis
      @absalomdraconis 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You can use cut-up bits of copper-clad as the "islands" if you want, and a conductive case as the ground plain.

  • @kjelllindberg6987
    @kjelllindberg6987 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It is less job to do a proper PCB design. Then send it to a PCB fab, get it back, and assemble it. With whatever stackup and holes you want. Cheap and fast and you stay within your signal integrity limits and EMC limits...

    • @ArneChristianRosenfeldt
      @ArneChristianRosenfeldt 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Can I get a 4 layer PCB, where the inner layers are close to each other and supply power? Then I want an air channel spacer layer for low k and a again a thin outer layer to carry the traces.

  • @legominimovieproductions
    @legominimovieproductions 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    So you basically make your own multilayer pcb😅

  • @CrazennCajunn
    @CrazennCajunn 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I know it's due to the board but god those joints are ugly

  • @dataplatter
    @dataplatter 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Is it just me or were two of those solder joints completely loose?

  • @petecotter6790
    @petecotter6790 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Sodder or solder?

    • @RedSummitRF
      @RedSummitRF  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The L is silent in the US 😬

  • @L2.Lagrange
    @L2.Lagrange 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Very interesting. I usually just hand dremmel out the copper

  • @spave83rus
    @spave83rus 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    херня какая-то еще "техникой" называется)

  • @ferdiyurdakul
    @ferdiyurdakul 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Im sure theres a bit you can buy to make islands.

  • @HendroSusenoHadiSudibyo
    @HendroSusenoHadiSudibyo 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I would prefer to cut a one side pcb,...

  • @David_11111
    @David_11111 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    NAR REAL NAME IS DEAD BUG

    • @trevorwoods3367
      @trevorwoods3367 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That's a different thing. Like an IC upside down and components soldered either directly to or with wiring.

  • @clausbader9537
    @clausbader9537 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Waist of double sided copper bords. He could glue that pads on any 1-1.5 mm thick plastic sheet.

    • @Enigma758
      @Enigma758 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      But then you lose the ground plane.

  • @PeterEdin
    @PeterEdin หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Solder, note the L, not sodder

    • @RedSummitRF
      @RedSummitRF  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Tanks lol

    • @PeterEdin
      @PeterEdin หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@RedSummitRF 😀

  • @woodturner1954
    @woodturner1954 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    That's cool.

  • @1truthseeking8
    @1truthseeking8 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    When is this going to be a "3D" pronter option? ... where ALL this is done "hands free"?

    • @ArneChristianRosenfeldt
      @ArneChristianRosenfeldt 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I don’t think that you can print copper. Maybe you could hammer it like gold? A robot which can bend wires would be cool. Maybe it could operate in pure H2 atmosphere for oxygen free copper. Then crossing wires can be welded easily. Wire ends are cut so that they expose 45° flat surfaces. Bend them up, to level pads for the parts. Just, how do we apply the silk layer?

  • @warrenzevonsangryghost6055
    @warrenzevonsangryghost6055 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Clean the solder tip you philistine!

  • @FranksPlace-jk7pj
    @FranksPlace-jk7pj 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Also known as dead bug construction.

  • @MrsZambezi
    @MrsZambezi 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I used drawing pins and aluminium foil on plywood for valve stuff.

  • @araratmirza834
    @araratmirza834 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    It's old thecnik

  • @sigi9669
    @sigi9669 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This might be a stupid question: but is it common to have this many components go to ground?

    • @K.D.Fischer_HEPHY
      @K.D.Fischer_HEPHY 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yes. Look at a random schematic you find in the internet. You will be surprised how many components have a ground pin to them somewhere in the path.

  • @centurionhomeinspectionsin2253
    @centurionhomeinspectionsin2253 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Boy those crystal leads are longggg

  • @norm1124
    @norm1124 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Why not just scratch the squares?

  • @codyreber8370
    @codyreber8370 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Or use perfboard with two sides

  • @Doug-b4p
    @Doug-b4p 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Why not just use the copper board?

    • @deang5622
      @deang5622 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Easy way to construct a ground plane for the entire circuit without having to design and construct a multi-layer printed circuit board.

  • @3dPrintCreator
    @3dPrintCreator 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    But... WHY?

  • @vk1pe
    @vk1pe 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    If I check my dictionary, the word is spelled "solder" and has an "l" before the "d". So, why do I hear people from the USA say "sodder"? No L! Strange!

    • @vk1pe
      @vk1pe 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I'm an Amateur Radio person, from VK1.

    • @cbmech2563
      @cbmech2563 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Like leftenant (lieutenant)?

  • @saschalinz5847
    @saschalinz5847 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Einfach normale Lochraster Platine nehmen.

  • @askme8592
    @askme8592 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Looks like an overcomplicated and unnecessary modification of a dead bug style build for noobs that dont understand electronics.

  • @steamfire
    @steamfire 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    this is the furthest thing from common

  • @thcoura
    @thcoura 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    If works I don't judge

  • @ghlscitel6714
    @ghlscitel6714 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Wainwright Mini-Mounts

  • @jan-pcro
    @jan-pcro 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    wtf is the only name for that

  • @demef758
    @demef758 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Two words: Perf Board.

  • @janverhave
    @janverhave 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    No stray capacitance?

  • @kalhara8806
    @kalhara8806 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    That is a little shit brh😐

  • @pierremartel3552
    @pierremartel3552 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Does it not put a kind of capacitor at each of those pads? 2 plate of metal that have a dielectric between them is the exact definition of a capacitor.

    • @beyondwhatisknown
      @beyondwhatisknown 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Someone ought to build a board of just such capacitors, meaaure the capicatance of the entire board in Farads, then divide by the number of little 7x7 mm squares, and figure out the Farads if each little pad. Are you available to do the research?

    • @ArneChristianRosenfeldt
      @ArneChristianRosenfeldt 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yes, the capacity between layers of pcb is used in modern consumer electronics to match impedance. Design tools help you.

  • @stephentilerer6534
    @stephentilerer6534 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    buy a perf board?!?

  • @artemphedchencko3062
    @artemphedchencko3062 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Проект манхэттэн начало

  • @hassanrasool3977
    @hassanrasool3977 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    شكرا جزيلا ❤❤

  • @BDoggy45
    @BDoggy45 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    un-sliced bread board

  • @planktonfun1
    @planktonfun1 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It looks bad tho

  • @JCR43221
    @JCR43221 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Cool idea until one can etch their own PCBs.

    • @cbmech2563
      @cbmech2563 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You mean like 50 years ago?

  • @voxpop9
    @voxpop9 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    what is the advantage of this vs through hole soldering

    • @ferrumignis
      @ferrumignis 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You don't have to design and order a PCB, so you can construct circuits immediately. This also gives a better ground plane for HF design as even on a double sided PCB with through hole components the ground plane has to be broken for every connection not going to ground.

  • @LyleAllenCairns
    @LyleAllenCairns 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Flux man Flux!

  • @egillis214
    @egillis214 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Breadboards?