A rare public appearance by Ayn Rand in the 1970's. She's in her 70's in this video and her first public apperance since husband Frank O'Connor's death.
I was an avid follower of Rand in my youth. Now that I'm older and have learned more about other philosophers and intellectuals, my respect and admiration for her ideas has grown significantly stronger.
I wonder how the current kick of stoicism on youtube and social media relates to her philosophy of life. They're not of one same strand, obviously, but what do you get when you mix Aristotle with Cicero in modern times?
I too was a fan of Rand’s work in my teens. However, after studying philosophy formally at uni I concluded that she was a very poor philosopher. For instance, when she talks about Kant she sounds like the overly confident freshman who neglected to do the reading. It’s really bad.
@@jafco9 It's really quite simple to identify places where Rand gets things patently wrong. For example, on Kant's ethics she wrote: "As to Kant’s version of morality, it was appropriate to the kind of zombies that would inhabit that kind of [Kantian] universe: it consisted of total, abject selflessness. An action is moral, said Kant, only if one has no desire to perform it, but performs it out of a sense of duty and derives no benefit from it of any sort, neither material nor spiritual; a benefit destroys the moral value of an action. (Thus, if one has no desire to be evil, one cannot be good; if one has, one can.)" This is wrong from start to finish. Literally every sentence is false --plainly false. Kant's ethics does not consist "of total, abject selflessness." Indeed, it recognizes a rather large sphere of activity governed by imperfect duties which give one wide latitude to pursue one's personal projects and interests. Also, it's false that for Kant an act is moral only if you have no desire to do it and don't benefit from it. You can desire to do something and benefit from it, but you cannot do it *because* you desire to do it or benefit from it. Finally, it's patently false that performing a moral act requires an evil motive to oppose with the motive of duty. Kant wrote extensively on the cultivation of virtue, for instance, in which one acquires the will to do what's good for its own sake and prunes away alternative motives. So there you go. Ayn Rand didn't know shit about Kant. She was undeniably intelligent, but she was a horrible philosopher.
Phil Donahue is a great interviewer and way above the caliber of disingenuous interviewers we have today. He clearly disagrees with her on some things but is able to have a civil and entertaining discourse nonetheless. We would never get anything like this on TV today.
I thought he was a jerk. He would interrupt his guests constantly, getting o his soapbox on one show, then exploiting people on smother.. acting like was a rue journalist. This is how it began… before Jerry Springer, & all the gbg shows you see now, started here & w/Oprah in the 80s
To see television and general discussions in those days compared to TV and general discussions today, shows how much America has deteriorated in such a short time.
I’ve noticed that about Scientist who argue Atheism as well. Most of their arguments are bullshit but because they have the accent and English down.. they are geniuses 😂 Ms. Rand said Faith is a sign of a psychological weakness and then walked off the stage and smoked a pack of cigarettes 😂😂😂 (she was a smoker). I still love her but come on lol.
I just came across this video, yes she has an interesting philosophy, however extremely disrespectful and diminishing to others who disagreed with her.
I agree she is smart, however not so humble about it. She wants to pick and choose who is smart enough to debate with her. Besides, she called it “her show”, well, it wasn’t. A smart person can have a debate with anyone, she could’ve had a better argument instead.
@Skip White hey there! In my opinion she overreacted. She should calmly smartly dismiss the comment just by saying something ” It’s a free society and you are entitled to your opinion.” I do agree with the comment where her philosophy is not applicable in our “current society”. But again, in philosophy you select the ideas that will benefit yourself. Not one idea is 100% correct. She was rather rude, a typical entitled older lady.
Naa, society has just become more democratic. People are being given what they want - what they naturally respond more to. The masses have never hungered for virtue or depth.
This woman grew up behind the Iron Curtain in the Soviet Union which was the inspiration for many of her books. It's crazy to see and hear many of my indoctrinated brainwashed over-educated millennial peers campaigning for socialism in America when they have no idea what it's like. Meanwhile people like Ayn and many immigrants to America who fled socialist hellholes like Cuba and Venezuela, come here and embrace the traditional values of this country. They knew what it was like to live in a socialist oppressive society and risk their lives to escape it. Sick and tired of people my age who have grown up spoiled rotten and take this country for granted complaining about how bad they have it here.
You still think the USSR’s fascist system is what Socialism is all about, but you’re simping for a toxic Libertsrianism simp lik Rand and calling people like us “brainwashed.” >snicker
Cubans get to live longer lives than Americans. u$a is THE bully of earth extorting all other nations to comply. Socialist nations are overtaking u$a's predatory capitalistic warmongers.
From what I've witnessed, she is probably more popular now she ever was during her life. In one sense, that's a tragedy for her in the purely personal sense, but now that the spreading of her rational moral code cannot be stopped, and as the frontier of off-world migration is finally opening up, her philosophy is now free to either prove itself as the best system for human interactions, or be replaced with something even more ideal. As always, the pioneers will blaze the trail for the rest of us.
It’s not true. There are many many brilliant people engaging in dialect today. It’s only that they have not yet been filtered to the top but with time the great speakers of today will shine through and youth of tomorrow will, as you have, wonder where all the smart people are.
Retroactively applying your crackpot theories to one man’s slip up almost 50 years ago is pretty crazy. You’re just as bad as the mystics Rand decries in this interview.
@@IceColdProfessionalI think podcasts will be mainstream in 10-15 years. It’s no different than how the internet was niche in the 90’s. The old media (or establishment media) right now still has a firm grasp on the majority, just as newspapers did when the internet was rising. But they losing viewers every year and that will eventually crush their business model. Their failure to adapt is what holds older viewers now but eventually writes their ticket to irrelevancy with younger viewers. You look at nightly news, cable news, even late night TV (all establishment media) and their viewership decreases every year. They can’t understand why Joe Rogan is so successful as they almost thumb their nose at anyone who follows him. It’s the same thing Newspapers did towards the internet, and history repeats itself.
Interesting how he (Donahue) goes after Ayn Rand, but not audience members who treat her disrespectfully. She is right, in this and in the previous instance, to react to the method and approach utilized by the women who pose questions disingenuously. She is in the position of participating in her own debasement or being seen as unreasonable. Rand could talk for hours about philosophy if she thought you were sincere. The conduct of these women, in this forum, is patently insulting and Rand was right to object and not take it any further with them. Such a great lady. So much of this strikes me as tragic.
Why should they have respected her? Ayn Rand didn’t respect anyone unless they perfectly embodied all the tenets of Objectivism- even if they also happened to have disembowled and chopped to pieces a 12-year old girl and tricked her father into paying them ransom money. And even then, she still held herself to a different standard than her fellow Objectivists. Like when her “side-piece,” Nathanael Branden, caught her cheating on him, she justified her affair, but when he did the same, she beat him up, shut down the schools he funded, excommunicated him from Objectivism, and wished a life of impotence upon him. She was a horribly misguided piece of shit.
@@crescentfreshbret ?? That doesn't remotely negate objectivism, that just paints the lady as a sociopath..... Let's use the given that she was a sociopath: even if she was, you don't have to be a sociopath to be an objectivist.....so I'm lost. Now in terms of respect, the reason why she didn't respect anyone outside of those constraints is very clear: she doesn't view them as honorable/intellectually honest. It's the same reason why moral nihilists view most arguments as intellectually dishonest. So again, looking at things from a purely objective lens (no pun intended) im lost.
Just so you know .... Ayn insisted on an affair with her protege and also insisted that her husband not only know about it, but approve of it. Not exactly a saint in this area.
@@laughingman4570 , in order for it to be an "affair" her husband would have had to of been left in the dark about it, of have no knowledge of it... Also, how do you justify using a word like "saint", which has holly like connotation, to even point in the direction of a woman who specifically has said she has zero interest in the subject matter of religion and it's teaching in her own life? lol
She's also a massive hypocrite and her philosophy became a cheerleading exercise for corporate greed and short sightedness. Her effect on the world was purely negative.
If you’re not a shallow person, and you listen to Rand explain her philosophy, it makes so much sense! I hope to one day see a society that adopts objectivism to show the world what it looks like... She was painted as evil, yet she was the opposite!!
she makes sense if you think about it rationally, but most people aren't rational, most people are emotional. Emotionally she sounds "evil" or bad, but rationally she makes sense. That's the problem
You do realize that she is still basing it on internal feelings. No one is completely rational even if they believe so to make themselves feel better. A truly logical person would be impartial and not hold extreme views. It is clear based on her pattern of speech that she internalized her feelings. There is always 2 sides to a coin. Yin and yang. It will never be one way or the other. There will always be opposition
Watching this 2021 how I miss Phil Donahue. The greatest talk show that ever was. Whether you agree or disagree this was extraordinary. Phil Donahue was the greatest and nobody will ever take his place. Nobody today would ever talk that way to someone he was the greatest talk show host that ever lived
At the time I became aware of him (mid-80s I guess), I thought his show was mostly fluff, but I must have watched this and his other Rand appearance at least six times by now, and I agree. Every time I re-watch I find another nuance to appreciate. His questions are insightful and timely, he is clearly interested in the ideas presented, and is also a masterful liason between guest and audience. I only wish he had sat down with Frank Zappa once or twice.
I can't believe it, but I just looked it up and Donahue is still alive. Apparently he never looked young, ever. But he could absolutely bring it back. Why not?
"What's wrong with giving up life and why is the happiness of another person important and good, but not your own?" Real shit this woman is saving me from myself 26 years after her passing. I read Anthem as a foyer into her works and I'm hooked now looking at things so differently. It's good to be selfish we should know our worth and regard it ourselves.
@@steveperreira5850 that's because psycho-epistomologically you hold the context of alturism so you frame every "sense of life" as a collective. Learn more about objectivist epsitomology for more info
unknown: I am definitely willing to look more into it, I read Her two most popular novels when I was a young Man. The point I am making here is that she is not a very nice person socially and she is so goddamn intolerant that I would not want to carry on any debate or discussion with her because she is just completely dismissive. I agree with her on most things, to me the individual is supreme to the collective. But I’m not gonna be a disciple of this bitch.
@@steveperreira5850 i really don't understand her philosophy of selfishness. she says we should put our self-interest first. but i find it is integral to our self-interest to NOT be selfish. if everyone is selfish it leads to a breakdown of society as a whole. therefore, humanity has evolved to be more socially responsible in order to preserve ourselves.
50 years later we’re debating all the same issues and philosophies. The debate between reality and “personal truths” (feelings) is even stronger now. Today people even believe that their feelings are enough to define their own gender and that others should be compelled to indulge their own self diagnosis…
Exactly. It’s crazy how relevant this still is. Half of a hundred years later. Wow! I’m just reading Atlas Shrugged, and wow it’s relevant to society today.
@@badgerlife9541then you will love her 1971 book The New Left: The Anti-Industrial Revolution. Im that book, she predicted almost everything happening today, and pinpoints the origin of Woke.
I don’t subscribe to Rand’s Objectivism, but she has a point about the Vice of worshiping the extreme expressions of altruism. People wear it as a shield to their extreme pride.
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Fred Rogers No this woman was a delusional idiot, who in the end turned out to be a hypocrite. She ended up taking social security, after years of rallying against social security and admonishing Americans who took SS benefits.
She didn´t stand up for a 12 year old girl who was victim of a paedophile. That aside the woman was promoting egotism, the route of all all human failings and suffering. When people take their heads out of their arses it gives them a wider view of the world and therefore a far better understanding
Cat 52 I'm not an objectivist, but it still annoys me to see ignorant takes on Mrs. Rand or her philosophy. @Cat52 so if the government takes money from you that you don't think it should and you regain some of the stolen money you are a hipocrit?
@@ChristopherWanha it would be interesting to know if she ever paid SS taxes. But since funds are fungible, get back some income tax from her published works seems entirely reasonable.
I really do appreciate her and her ideas. I don't agree with her faith viewpoint but that doesn't change the fact that she was waaaaay ahead of the time. Awesome interview too.. wish we had more of this
@A Miles To be ahead of one's time means the future more sembles their way of thinking. Would Rand recognize her ideas as having prominence in American society today?
I've read Atlas Shrugged, The Fountainhead, and We the Living by Ayn Rand so I'm familiar with her ideas. This interview was very interesting. While I have admiration for her extraordinary intellect and ability to convey her ideas as it pertains to her loathing of collectivist doctrine (including her animus towards soft socialist concepts like "responsibility"), it struck me when she started talking reverently about science and scientists and showing no ability to appreciate the logic and reason underpinning Christian theology. It was amazing to me that even the great Ayn Rand fell prey to this aspect of the collectivist ideal. This absurdly childish notion that "science" can explain life's deepest mysteries. She had zero awareness of how she had fallen prey to this pinnacle of collectivism.
How has the typo in this videos title not been corrected in the 3 years since it was posted? "ANY Rand Interviewed by Phil Donahue"... It's AYN Rand as you correctly spelled in the videos description.
Cathy, which "Bible" or version had any positive affect upon You that You claim "changed You "? If it "changed" You, as You claim, then was it via Your personal decision within logic, reason, reasoning, thinking or perhaps placed You into a forced acceptance with no choice, or perhaps You were just directed, perhaps inDOCtrinated to accept thaparticular Doctrine, thus refrain from thought, logic, reason, reasoning ?
America- ALL of America, left, right, centrist, etc.- was so much more informed then. You can tell by the nature of the questions- no blind praise, no bat-shit moon-screeching; just basically poignent, informed questions.
@@elgrigorio1 It was indeed. That was the orange dress interview, for anyone who is curious. That wasn't her best moment IMO, because it was one of the few times she allowed herself to appear deliberately unpersuasive. She probably could have handled that particular question better, but at the same time, it is highly entertaining television and provides a unique insight into how she came to deal with such forms of social adversity toward the end of her life.
I'm a Christian. in my free will I should be proud when i choose to make a good decision. and hold myself responsible when I make a bad one. I found Ayn Rand before I found God and I thought the two could not be married in my mind. but what she said on religions isn't anything i can't adapt to my own beliefs. God made me he does now control me. I work for God because I want to.
Free will doesn't exist. Check out the new scientific studies on free will. It's pretty interesting, our brains decide for us before we realize it and think it was a conscious decision.
@@dandrechesterfield5411 Could you expand on that. Why would consciousness determine if a choice was free as long as one alternative could be chosen over another whatever the mechanism?
@@lifeisabadjoke5750 Rand's effect on society has been so negative. Justifying greed and shortsightedness, advocating eugenics, much of the so called 'trumpism' can be traced back to her nonsense
WOW! Ayn will certainly make you think over your ideas of reality. This is her contribution to the philosophical debate surrounding our current civilization and our values. You may or may not agree with her ideas, but there has never been any person who was better at pointing out the weaknesses and contradictions of modern thought.
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Hi, What I understand after watching this interview. Rand thinking is far more superior and her thoughts are thought-provoking. She says" do what u like it simply because u like it but not at the cost of your sacrifices. It's a stupid idea if u do so. Finally what I say is just do things , which are going to make u happy and who are depending on you.we don't need any philosophy. Because your circumstances are totally unique from others. My advice is follow your own self not others. "Each movie needs a fresh story".
Rand never said that you should do what you want because you like it. She said to do what is in your rational self-interest. In a TV interview, you don't have time to be thorough in explaining things so she gave you a shorthand version.
Note the young woman's speech: "I feel...," I feel...," I feel..." "Feelings are a barometer of one's thinking, they're not a substitute for it." - Ayn Rand.
Rand says 'I think xyz bc of these reasons is the same as another person saying they feel xyz bc of these reasons. Rand got lost in semantics there....
@@spiraleddays1870 I wasn't disagreeing, just saying actual sacrifices are rare imo. Once we did good for ourselves and even before that we often want to help the collective it seems.
Her issue with self sacrifice in a nutshell: Sacrificing yourself, even if only in part, is like piece meal suicide. Just cause it's one small piece at a time doesn't mean it's not killing you.
Her real issue is inventing a personal definition of altruism and then arbitrarily deciding what uses of resources are good and bad and what motives are good and bad. Mother Theresa is popularly the image of altruistic endeavor. Her actions showed that she placed a higher value on serving others than on personal comfort. So she improved her condition every time she gave up something because her motive was not accumulation of things, but rather accumulation of what she thought were good works that would get her into heaven.
@@superhoga That doesn't defy Rand's philosophy, it plays right into it. Objectively speaking, Mother Theresa was operating within her hierarchy of value, which is what Rand was advocating for. She placed higher value on serving others, so fundamentally, that wasn't altruism, because altruism is marked by self-sacrifice. Otherwise it would be merely doing nice things just because. Mother Theresa is a special case - she found her comfort in helping others, and this seemed to be an axiomatic truth that even Rand probably couldn't disagree with. If she did, then I would say that she's misjudging exactly the lengths to which certain people are willing to go for others, or she's simply mistrustful. But the point is, it's not altruism, by definition.
The point about celebration is sports after hitting a home run, scoring a basket etc is a bit more complex. A lot of players do not show emotion for psychological reasons (both for opponents and players themselves)- showing no emotion can mean that you are either super focused on a big picture (ei. eventual championship) or that those sorts of big plays are actually so common for you that they don't even make an impression on you.
Piotr Nowacki You are talking about suppression, which is sometimes necessary, and in sports can be tactical. She was talking about repression, which is usually harmful.
You see the 2 problems right away: A) The Oprah format pretends to solve problems in 1 hour minus commercial times. B) The audience doesn't realize that they are being "eaten" by the action. They are the sacrifice for the revealed truth being relayed by the priests on stage.
Did Mrs Thatcher get her famous statement "There's no such thing as society" from Ayn Rand? I know she was influenced by 'Road to Serfdom' by Hayek but not sure about Rand.
The comparisons between how men interact in athletics and "normal life" is rather stark. What do athletes say they miss most once they retire? Being around "the guys". The "comradery". Professional athletes, amateur, and similar the like are so very fortunate in a number of ways. But especially the positive atypical relationships they have with other men that are scarce in other aspects of life
I think you mean "Leave it to Rand to oversimplify and pretend she knows everything about a man she's only ever seen on TV." It _is_ arrogance, and only arrogance.
She also cursed socialism and people who accept government assistance... until she got strung out on drugs and blew all her money... then she went straight to the government with her hand out. She was a fraud
@@MrJes3141 Rand built a fantasy "man" character to counter the fantasy Marxist man that had damaged her life and country. Both are ridiculous and do not bear out in basic observation and daily life. Her "philosophy" is entirely reactionary and a warped form of self defense. In the end, she began to crack and practically begged St. Peter to save her. I hope he did.
she was a gem when she railed against socialism when she was young and had money, but later in life when she was a drug addict and broke... she went straight to the government for hand outs.
I appreciate her defense of individualism, and against the collectivist state, on that we are brother & sister. If I spent a weekend with her alone, murder comes to mind, she is so condescending.
Phil Donahue (born in December, 1935) is 85 years old. He's happily married to Marlo Thomas (daughter of Danny Thomas), since 1980. His marriage has been enriched by the altruism of Marlo Thomas, and her work with St. Jude's Hospital Foundation. Ayn Rand (1905-1982) underwent surgery in 1974; in 1976, she subsidized her medical needs with medicare and social security services.
Yawn. This story is a canard that ought to be retired. She had no choice but to opt into it as Medicare was a mandatory government policy. Please do some basic research before posting.
She paid considerable tax through the years. It was the medical system set up in this country by the Altruists. Survival, you do what you have to reasonably do.
Do you mean she legally took back some of the wealth that was stolen from her at the point of a gun? Go read what she had to say about social security before you make a fool of yourself.
Do yourselves a really big favor and leave RACE (and all that it implies) out of your discussion(s). Why? Because it simply demonstrates the myopic boundaries that will inevitably impose "restrictions" on anything of value that might usher forth from your mind. Her philosophies, NOT her heritage, is what is important.
Actually, a great many of the discussions on his program appear quite polite and civilized when juxtaposed against the culturally suicidal anarcho-tyranny of 2024.
At about the 30:00 mark, Phil responds to the woman with the short blonde hair, who just explained she like Rand's works because she thought the ideas made her unashamed to be herself, with reference to male chauvinism. He's inviting her to embrace vicitimhood. He's shutting her down.
Old Do-Gooder Phil. Do good with other people's money to make him feel good that he fought to get you to cough up tax to help those that he thought supported him.
Ayn Rand misunderstood Max Stirner's "Einzige" - Stirner was an individualist mystic in his "The Only One and It's Possessions" who infuriated Karl Marx and the Capitalist establishment.
People are not stupid when they say that their lives have changed after reading Ayn Rand works..its the greatest philosophy mankind will ever learn..shame that people dont understand it and often make fun of it..but believe me in the coming time objectivism will find its place in the world and people will accept it eventually..!!!!!!!
Or the world will go down in destruction. Hopefully, there will be a repository of her writings that survives so those of us that are left can rebuild.
Ayn's goal from the beginning was to wake American up during the late 1930s of where FDR was taking America into, Socialism. She lived it in Russia under Lenin and Stalin. She saw govt destroy her father's success as a pharmacist. It broke him. Individual success was bad, collectivism was good. She saw this happening here under FDR.
absolutely brilliant..she cannot be intimidated...""no matter how ..talk host etc...tries...he just looks stupid...ignorance misunderstood...she holds he own..and i have learnt much
@edwardgiovannelli5191 there's no such thing as "morally bankrupt". And she was a long-term thinker in the truest sense because she understood human nature.
@@manusha1349but she didn't understand human nature... she played to, and celebrated, the worst of human instincts and rationalized them by calling them 'rational.' But she couldn't grasp the better angels of humanity so she condemned them as frivolous To think she understood all of human nature is, I'm sorry, laughably inaccurate. At best, naïve.
35:00 her response tells you most of what you need to know to understand Ayn - be free to be who you are, believe what you believe, express what you want to express, as long as it's on her terms.
not exactly....certainly you are free to express yourself anyway you like, but if you expect her to accept it at face value, then it does need to be on her terms. Same judgement as everyone should be using for themselves.
Totally agree there should not be any victims in a marriage or a relationship (I used to play one). Not so sure about "No sacrifices". I do like a lot the way she defined sacrifice (subbing for lesser value or non value). But we could probably find examples of true sacrifice, so defined, in a committed relationship.
Something very interesting, and I know this is an old show... but it's kind of interesting to see the "right wing" guest arguing for atheism and the "left wing" host arguing for religion.
@@jonathonhanson7278 Did you notice that I enclosed it in quote marks? LOL. Relatively speaking, her ideas, or to be more specific, the economic implications of her philosophy, are in line with what many today consider economic conservatism.
@@tomservo75 She wouldn't agree with any political party today because they have abandoned the small businessman or Capitalistic system by impeding, and getting in the way, stopping advancement of free-thinking rational men that this country was founded on.
Phil Donahue says he's Catholic, but he'd like the Catholic Church to be less religious and more leftist and altruistic, which (in my view) says he's an atheist, but one which keeps superficial tradition. 😊 However, I admire the fact that he invited people he disagreed with, and was civil. A very different person from the leftists we see today.
Donahue brilliant in putting challenge in words. What he said about skyscrapers is to be recorded. All this facing a myth of philosophy with his humour bugs bunny style.
I wish Ayn Rand would be alive today and speak on a podcast where she's not interrupted by the host every 5 seconds and commercial breaks every 7 mins.
Wow. An Ayn Rand podcast. That would be something. Is there any podcaster today equal to this woman's brilliance? No. And look at how low talk shows have sunk. The View, Jimmy Kimmell, Bill Mahr... No wonder the West is an insane irrational mess.
I was an avid follower of Rand in my youth. Now that I'm older and have learned more about other philosophers and intellectuals, my respect and admiration for her ideas has grown significantly stronger.
I wonder how the current kick of stoicism on youtube and social media relates to her philosophy of life. They're not of one same strand, obviously, but what do you get when you mix Aristotle with Cicero in modern times?
I too was a fan of Rand’s work in my teens. However, after studying philosophy formally at uni I concluded that she was a very poor philosopher. For instance, when she talks about Kant she sounds like the overly confident freshman who neglected to do the reading. It’s really bad.
@ericd9827 yet all you're able to do is resort to insults without providing any examples of where she is wrong
@@jafco9 It's really quite simple to identify places where Rand gets things patently wrong. For example, on Kant's ethics she wrote:
"As to Kant’s version of morality, it was appropriate to the kind of zombies that would inhabit that kind of [Kantian] universe: it consisted of total, abject selflessness. An action is moral, said Kant, only if one has no desire to perform it, but performs it out of a sense of duty and derives no benefit from it of any sort, neither material nor spiritual; a benefit destroys the moral value of an action. (Thus, if one has no desire to be evil, one cannot be good; if one has, one can.)"
This is wrong from start to finish. Literally every sentence is false --plainly false.
Kant's ethics does not consist "of total, abject selflessness." Indeed, it recognizes a rather large sphere of activity governed by imperfect duties which give one wide latitude to pursue one's personal projects and interests.
Also, it's false that for Kant an act is moral only if you have no desire to do it and don't benefit from it. You can desire to do something and benefit from it, but you cannot do it *because* you desire to do it or benefit from it.
Finally, it's patently false that performing a moral act requires an evil motive to oppose with the motive of duty. Kant wrote extensively on the cultivation of virtue, for instance, in which one acquires the will to do what's good for its own sake and prunes away alternative motives.
So there you go. Ayn Rand didn't know shit about Kant. She was undeniably intelligent, but she was a horrible philosopher.
@Jeff Farias you never responded.
Donahue's, " when we have a company...I mean country" was the slip of the century.
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No !... He's a perfect example of the leftist liberal mindset !!
Not…. Really?
@@TOCC50oh lord.
Phil Donahue is a great interviewer and way above the caliber of disingenuous interviewers we have today. He clearly disagrees with her on some things but is able to have a civil and entertaining discourse nonetheless. We would never get anything like this on TV today.
Really? Did you watch the other interview?
@Skip White Im talking about Phil D. I agree she is great but Phil is not unbiased lol
Journalists used to be able to present both sides in America.
I thought he was a jerk. He would interrupt his guests constantly, getting o his soapbox on one show, then exploiting people on smother.. acting like was a rue journalist. This is how it began… before Jerry Springer, & all the gbg shows you see now, started here & w/Oprah in the 80s
you obviously live in a sheltered environment
To see television and general discussions in those days compared to TV and general discussions today, shows how much America has deteriorated in such a short time.
her grasp of the English language is very concrete as a fundamental level. she doesn't slip up and is always seemingly sure of her own thoughts.
After living in the US for more than 50 years, you'd expect that, wouldn't you?
I don't expect the general US population, even US born & bread 70 y/o's, to be as articulate as Ayn Rand.
I’ve noticed that about Scientist who argue Atheism as well. Most of their arguments are bullshit but because they have the accent and English down.. they are geniuses 😂 Ms. Rand said Faith is a sign of a psychological weakness and then walked off the stage and smoked a pack of cigarettes 😂😂😂 (she was a smoker). I still love her but come on lol.
No she's not smart go poop yo pants
@@felipedrada you would, but look at immigrants of today - 20, 30 years ... still speako no damn english
Even if I don't agree with everything she says, I can respect her.
I feel the same way. I don’t agree with her philosophy but I love her brain ☺️ I think that best describes what you mean too huh? 👍🏾 She’s smart
I just came across this video, yes she has an interesting philosophy, however extremely disrespectful and diminishing to others who disagreed with her.
I agree she is smart, however not so humble about it. She wants to pick and choose who is smart enough to debate with her. Besides, she called it “her show”, well, it wasn’t. A smart person can have a debate with anyone, she could’ve had a better argument instead.
@Skip White hey there! In my opinion she overreacted. She should calmly smartly dismiss the comment just by saying something ” It’s a free society and you are entitled to your opinion.” I do agree with the comment where her philosophy is not applicable in our “current society”. But again, in philosophy you select the ideas that will benefit yourself. Not one idea is 100% correct. She was rather rude, a typical entitled older lady.
@@AlexK-vp9jd No one idea is 100% correct including this one.
Hey! This isn't just any Rand...this is Ayn Rand!!
(There's a typo in the title of the video)
wait wait wait. american talk shows were this respectable back in the day? please bring back donahue i'm tired of Dr Phils :(
Naa, society has just become more democratic. People are being given what they want - what they naturally respond more to. The masses have never hungered for virtue or depth.
Demjij baina
Dr Phil is given shit and lies to work with. He is far better when dealing with genuine people.
@@Leto2ndAtreides wrong, that did not age well
Thats right
This woman grew up behind the Iron Curtain in the Soviet Union which was the inspiration for many of her books. It's crazy to see and hear many of my indoctrinated brainwashed over-educated millennial peers campaigning for socialism in America when they have no idea what it's like. Meanwhile people like Ayn and many immigrants to America who fled socialist hellholes like Cuba and Venezuela, come here and embrace the traditional values of this country. They knew what it was like to live in a socialist oppressive society and risk their lives to escape it. Sick and tired of people my age who have grown up spoiled rotten and take this country for granted complaining about how bad they have it here.
Truer words have never been spoken.
While drinking Starbucks and surfing their phones
You still think the USSR’s fascist system is what Socialism is all about, but you’re simping for a toxic Libertsrianism simp lik Rand and calling people like us “brainwashed.” >snicker
Cubans get to live longer lives than Americans. u$a is THE bully of earth extorting all other nations to comply. Socialist nations are overtaking u$a's predatory capitalistic warmongers.
No she didn't. They fled the revolution at it's beginning.
I admire her. Our societal discourse has really devolved, its so sad.
From what I've witnessed, she is probably more popular now she ever was during her life. In one sense, that's a tragedy for her in the purely personal sense, but now that the spreading of her rational moral code cannot be stopped, and as the frontier of off-world migration is finally opening up, her philosophy is now free to either prove itself as the best system for human interactions, or be replaced with something even more ideal. As always, the pioneers will blaze the trail for the rest of us.
It’s not true. There are many many brilliant people engaging in dialect today. It’s only that they have not yet been filtered to the top but with time the great speakers of today will shine through and youth of tomorrow will, as you have, wonder where all the smart people are.
Drink every time the closed captions or the OP get Ayn Rand's name wrong
"Iran!" "Hydrant!" "Frying Pan!"
No don't do it! People have too much to live for.
"When you've got a company, ah, a country". He knew exactly what he said.
I was thinking the same thing
Yep, a corporation.
Retroactively applying your crackpot theories to one man’s slip up almost 50 years ago is pretty crazy. You’re just as bad as the mystics Rand decries in this interview.
I miss these talk shows that went into depth with a guest.
Joe Rogan
@@Alacard0malley I meant mainstream. But yes, Joe is great.
@@IceColdProfessional ah man they can't do them anyway, someone might say something that's true and wouldn't that be tragic
@@IceColdProfessionalI think podcasts will be mainstream in 10-15 years. It’s no different than how the internet was niche in the 90’s.
The old media (or establishment media) right now still has a firm grasp on the majority, just as newspapers did when the internet was rising. But they losing viewers every year and that will eventually crush their business model. Their failure to adapt is what holds older viewers now but eventually writes their ticket to irrelevancy with younger viewers.
You look at nightly news, cable news, even late night TV (all establishment media) and their viewership decreases every year. They can’t understand why Joe Rogan is so successful as they almost thumb their nose at anyone who follows him. It’s the same thing Newspapers did towards the internet, and history repeats itself.
Interesting how he (Donahue) goes after Ayn Rand, but not audience members who treat her disrespectfully. She is right, in this and in the previous instance, to react to the method and approach utilized by the women who pose questions disingenuously. She is in the position of participating in her own debasement or being seen as unreasonable. Rand could talk for hours about philosophy if she thought you were sincere. The conduct of these women, in this forum, is patently insulting and Rand was right to object and not take it any further with them. Such a great lady. So much of this strikes me as tragic.
These people can only attack Rand personally..nobody is capable of attacking her intelect.
Why should they have respected her? Ayn Rand didn’t respect anyone unless they perfectly embodied all the tenets of Objectivism- even if they also happened to have disembowled and chopped to pieces a 12-year old girl and tricked her father into paying them ransom money. And even then, she still held herself to a different standard than her fellow Objectivists. Like when her “side-piece,” Nathanael Branden, caught her cheating on him, she justified her affair, but when he did the same, she beat him up, shut down the schools he funded, excommunicated him from Objectivism, and wished a life of impotence upon him. She was a horribly misguided piece of shit.
@@crescentfreshbret ?? That doesn't remotely negate objectivism, that just paints the lady as a sociopath.....
Let's use the given that she was a sociopath: even if she was, you don't have to be a sociopath to be an objectivist.....so I'm lost.
Now in terms of respect, the reason why she didn't respect anyone outside of those constraints is very clear: she doesn't view them as honorable/intellectually honest. It's the same reason why moral nihilists view most arguments as intellectually dishonest. So again, looking at things from a purely objective lens (no pun intended) im lost.
It's sad when she says, "I lost my top value" in reference to her husband.
yes
How is it not sad? She lost her husband. thats a sad thing. How are you making this about language, it was a perfectly constructed sentence.
Yeah, its really sweet and sad
Just so you know .... Ayn insisted on an affair with her protege and also insisted that her husband not only know about it, but approve of it. Not exactly a saint in this area.
@@laughingman4570 , in order for it to be an "affair" her husband would have had to of been left in the dark about it, of have no knowledge of it... Also, how do you justify using a word like "saint", which has holly like connotation, to even point in the direction of a woman who specifically has said she has zero interest in the subject matter of religion and it's teaching in her own life? lol
I am normally not (yet?) a fan but here I find it very brave how she defends why she is an atheist while you see many in the public are religious.
She's also a massive hypocrite and her philosophy became a cheerleading exercise for corporate greed and short sightedness.
Her effect on the world was purely negative.
If you’re not a shallow person, and you listen to Rand explain her philosophy, it makes so much sense! I hope to one day see a society that adopts objectivism to show the world what it looks like... She was painted as evil, yet she was the opposite!!
she makes sense if you think about it rationally, but most people aren't rational, most people are emotional. Emotionally she sounds "evil" or bad, but rationally she makes sense. That's the problem
Now the Trumpsters can honor and praise her because thats where they got many of their unhinged ideas.
@@bretwright3535in other words you don't believe that you are important
You do realize that she is still basing it on internal feelings. No one is completely rational even if they believe so to make themselves feel better. A truly logical person would be impartial and not hold extreme views. It is clear based on her pattern of speech that she internalized her feelings. There is always 2 sides to a coin. Yin and yang. It will never be one way or the other. There will always be opposition
I don't think she was evil. Just a massive hypocrite.
Watching this 2021 how I miss Phil Donahue. The greatest talk show that ever was. Whether you agree or disagree this was extraordinary. Phil Donahue was the greatest and nobody will ever take his place. Nobody today would ever talk that way to someone he was the greatest talk show host that ever lived
At the time I became aware of him (mid-80s I guess), I thought his show was mostly fluff, but I must have watched this and his other Rand appearance at least six times by now, and I agree. Every time I re-watch I find another nuance to appreciate. His questions are insightful and timely, he is clearly interested in the ideas presented, and is also a masterful liason between guest and audience. I only wish he had sat down with Frank Zappa once or twice.
I can't believe it, but I just looked it up and Donahue is still alive. Apparently he never looked young, ever. But he could absolutely bring it back. Why not?
"What's wrong with giving up life and why is the happiness of another person important and good, but not your own?" Real shit this woman is saving me from myself 26 years after her passing. I read Anthem as a foyer into her works and I'm hooked now looking at things so differently. It's good to be selfish we should know our worth and regard it ourselves.
I like a lot of her ideas but I really hate her because she is so mean and intolerant. She seems to lack empathy, you know the missing chip theory.
Anthem by Rush is one of my favorites both musically and lyric-wise. 2112 for same reasons. Love Neil Peart
@@steveperreira5850 that's because psycho-epistomologically you hold the context of alturism so you frame every "sense of life" as a collective. Learn more about objectivist epsitomology for more info
unknown: I am definitely willing to look more into it, I read Her two most popular novels when I was a young Man.
The point I am making here is that she is not a very nice person socially and she is so goddamn intolerant that I would not want to carry on any debate or discussion with her because she is just completely dismissive.
I agree with her on most things, to me the individual is supreme to the collective. But I’m not gonna be a disciple of this bitch.
@@steveperreira5850 i really don't understand her philosophy of selfishness. she says we should put our self-interest first. but i find it is integral to our self-interest to NOT be selfish. if everyone is selfish it leads to a breakdown of society as a whole. therefore, humanity has evolved to be more socially responsible in order to preserve ourselves.
thank you for posting
50 years later we’re debating all the same issues and philosophies. The debate between reality and “personal truths” (feelings) is even stronger now. Today people even believe that their feelings are enough to define their own gender and that others should be compelled to indulge their own self diagnosis…
Exactly. It’s crazy how relevant this still is. Half of a hundred years later. Wow! I’m just reading Atlas Shrugged, and wow it’s relevant to society today.
@@badgerlife9541Its pulp philosophy. pop nonsense for people who want their socially unacceptable, often immature feelings girded by another.
@@badgerlife9541then you will love her 1971 book The New Left: The Anti-Industrial Revolution. Im that book, she predicted almost everything happening today, and pinpoints the origin of Woke.
I don’t subscribe to Rand’s Objectivism, but she has a point about the Vice of worshiping the extreme expressions of altruism. People wear it as a shield to their extreme pride.
Gone but not forgotten - remarkable woman.
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Ayn Rand's point was what's that point of one telling her that one disagrees with her point.
A truly amazing lady. She stood up for the truth against all comers. If only our politicians would follow the same policy.
Fred Rogers No this woman was a delusional idiot, who in the end turned out to be a hypocrite. She ended up taking social security, after years of rallying against social security and admonishing Americans who took SS benefits.
She didn´t stand up for a 12 year old girl who was victim of a paedophile. That aside the woman was promoting egotism, the route of all all human failings and suffering.
When people take their heads out of their arses it gives them a wider view of the world and therefore a far better understanding
Cat 52 I'm not an objectivist, but it still annoys me to see ignorant takes on Mrs. Rand or her philosophy. @Cat52 so if the government takes money from you that you don't think it should and you regain some of the stolen money you are a hipocrit?
@@ChristopherWanha it would be interesting to know if she ever paid SS taxes. But since funds are fungible, get back some income tax from her published works seems entirely reasonable.
She refused to acknowledge those that disagreed. How is that standing up for anything?
I really do appreciate her and her ideas. I don't agree with her faith viewpoint but that doesn't change the fact that she was waaaaay ahead of the time. Awesome interview too.. wish we had more of this
America has become more and more socialist. Obamacare and the Covid-19 lockdowns are the opposite of what shes advocating.
@A Miles To be ahead of one's time means the future more sembles their way of thinking. Would Rand recognize her ideas as having prominence in American society today?
@A Miles from Cambridge dictionary: to have new ideas a long time before other people think that way
I don't believe her philosophy either,
my belief is Christianity
I've read Atlas Shrugged, The Fountainhead, and We the Living by Ayn Rand so I'm familiar with her ideas. This interview was very interesting. While I have admiration for her extraordinary intellect and ability to convey her ideas as it pertains to her loathing of collectivist doctrine (including her animus towards soft socialist concepts like "responsibility"), it struck me when she started talking reverently about science and scientists and showing no ability to appreciate the logic and reason underpinning Christian theology. It was amazing to me that even the great Ayn Rand fell prey to this aspect of the collectivist ideal. This absurdly childish notion that "science" can explain life's deepest mysteries. She had zero awareness of how she had fallen prey to this pinnacle of collectivism.
Imagine having a dialogue like this in 2024
How has the typo in this videos title not been corrected in the 3 years since it was posted?
"ANY Rand Interviewed by Phil Donahue"... It's AYN Rand as you correctly spelled in the videos description.
One of the most intelligent people to have ever existed.
She basically stole her shtick from Nietzsche.
@@shinybeast8946 who tf taught you to think?
@@nikolavlah9199 you think for yourself, dipshit.
@@nikolavlah9199 it optimistic to assume he's thinking
All comes from Aristotle.
Love her, love her, love her. When I discovered her and her books, my life changed forever.
That's funny, the bible changed me
She seems kinda dumb, or juvenile.
@@cathyhamlin3611 when you’re mind is open any book can change you.
Cathy, which "Bible" or version had any positive affect upon You that You claim "changed You "?
If it "changed" You, as You claim, then was it via Your personal decision within logic, reason, reasoning, thinking or perhaps placed You into a forced acceptance with no choice, or perhaps You were just directed, perhaps inDOCtrinated to accept thaparticular Doctrine, thus refrain from thought, logic, reason, reasoning ?
America- ALL of America, left, right, centrist, etc.- was so much more informed then. You can tell by the nature of the questions- no blind praise, no bat-shit moon-screeching; just basically poignent, informed questions.
Lol no they weren’t. People were just as stupid they just didn’t have social media to platform stupidity.
“You want to create an incident!” Lol
Yeah I've seen that show where she was on Donahue the year before this one. That was some incident.
@@elgrigorio1 It was indeed. That was the orange dress interview, for anyone who is curious. That wasn't her best moment IMO, because it was one of the few times she allowed herself to appear deliberately unpersuasive. She probably could have handled that particular question better, but at the same time, it is highly entertaining television and provides a unique insight into how she came to deal with such forms of social adversity toward the end of her life.
I'm a Christian. in my free will I should be proud when i choose to make a good decision. and hold myself responsible when I make a bad one. I found Ayn Rand before I found God and I thought the two could not be married in my mind. but what she said on religions isn't anything i can't adapt to my own beliefs. God made me he does now control me. I work for God because I want to.
Free will doesn't exist. Check out the new scientific studies on free will. It's pretty interesting, our brains decide for us before we realize it and think it was a conscious decision.
@@dandrechesterfield5411 Could you expand on that. Why would consciousness determine if a choice was free as long as one alternative could be chosen over another whatever the mechanism?
@@HablaCarnage63 Sam Harris has a few podcasts on the subject heres one clip th-cam.com/video/2L1a7CHYVLg/w-d-xo.html
@@dandrechesterfield5411 Thanks.
I love what you said and agree.
its so depressing seeing whats going on in America today.
I know. So many politicians buying into and trying to implement this black-hearted hag’s reprehensible ideas. Definitely very depressing.
imagine growing up in Canada and watching what's happened to the USA. We don't even visit on mass anymore.
2020 says hi. 😂😂😂
how you feeling now ?
@@lifeisabadjoke5750 Rand's effect on society has been so negative. Justifying greed and shortsightedness, advocating eugenics, much of the so called 'trumpism' can be traced back to her nonsense
WOW! Ayn will certainly make you think over your ideas of reality. This is her contribution to the philosophical debate surrounding our current civilization and our values. You may or may not agree with her ideas, but there has never been any person who was better at pointing out the weaknesses and contradictions of modern thought.
She wasn't too good at pointing out the weaknesses of her own thought.
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Hi,
What I understand after watching this interview. Rand thinking is far more superior and her thoughts are thought-provoking. She says" do what u like it simply because u like it but not at the cost of your sacrifices. It's a stupid idea if u do so.
Finally what I say is just do things , which are going to make u happy and who are depending on you.we don't need any philosophy. Because your circumstances are totally unique from others. My advice is follow your own self not others. "Each movie needs a fresh story".
Rand never said that you should do what you want because you like it. She said to do what is in your rational self-interest. In a TV interview, you don't have time to be thorough in explaining things so she gave you a shorthand version.
Note the young woman's speech: "I feel...," I feel...," I feel..." "Feelings are a barometer of one's thinking, they're not a substitute for it." - Ayn Rand.
...and the only indication one needs that the mind is turned, "off," or has been badly crippled.
Rand says 'I think xyz bc of these reasons is the same as another person saying they feel xyz bc of these reasons. Rand got lost in semantics there....
@@BrianbeesandbikesIt's not "semantics." Words have meaning. "If language is not correct, then what is said is not what is meant." Confucius
How is it possible to misspell the name of Ayn Rand in your title ? Thank You anyway !
I miss you Mum. Thank you for your true genius and blunt housing.
She admits she is not a cult!! Yes!!!
such a fascinating interview
Donahue's freudian slip at 15:18 about the government being a company though... hmmm very curious
Rand is such a fascinating person. Her philosophy and writings should be taught, debated and understood.
They're not taught in legitimate settings because its not a legitimate 'philosophy.
you don't sacrifice, you share
Why would you share if its not in pursuit of you personal gain?
@@spiraleddays1870 Indeed but the people who do it often do so for their own gain. Ego, pleasure to help someone else or both.
@@flazeda8743 that further increases my point we should strive towards the individual not the collective
@@spiraleddays1870 I wasn't disagreeing, just saying actual sacrifices are rare imo. Once we did good for ourselves and even before that we often want to help the collective it seems.
Don't miss your chance to watch Helen Mirren in The Passion of Ayn Rand. Great performance.
+Brian Simerl I googled it, ended up watching Obama on Running wild with Bear Grylls.
Awesome movie watched it twice , want it in my DVD collection
Her issue with self sacrifice in a nutshell:
Sacrificing yourself, even if only in part, is like piece meal suicide.
Just cause it's one small piece at a time doesn't mean it's not killing you.
Her real issue is inventing a personal definition of altruism and then arbitrarily deciding what uses of resources are good and bad and what motives are good and bad. Mother Theresa is popularly the image of altruistic endeavor. Her actions showed that she placed a higher value on serving others than on personal comfort. So she improved her condition every time she gave up something because her motive was not accumulation of things, but rather accumulation of what she thought were good works that would get her into heaven.
Carl Hopf that is always overlooked too.
@@superhoga That doesn't defy Rand's philosophy, it plays right into it. Objectively speaking, Mother Theresa was operating within her hierarchy of value, which is what Rand was advocating for. She placed higher value on serving others, so fundamentally, that wasn't altruism, because altruism is marked by self-sacrifice. Otherwise it would be merely doing nice things just because. Mother Theresa is a special case - she found her comfort in helping others, and this seemed to be an axiomatic truth that even Rand probably couldn't disagree with. If she did, then I would say that she's misjudging exactly the lengths to which certain people are willing to go for others, or she's simply mistrustful. But the point is, it's not altruism, by definition.
@@superhoga
Christopher Hitchens would disagree with you.
I would have loved to see a conversation between Hitch and Rand.
NIce. Gone are the days when people have interesting exchanges. Unless I missed the part where a chair was throne
75 and probably 25 points higher in IQ than Conan and respect much respect to 160.
Vanity of vanities, all is vanity
She admits she is not a cult! No! A genius is not a cult!
Correct. She is much underappreciated.
She wasn't a genius, she was a pop-philosopher who appealed to basic people's basic instincts
Just because she didn't _start_ the cult, doesn't mean it doesn't exist.
The point about celebration is sports after hitting a home run, scoring a basket etc is a bit more complex.
A lot of players do not show emotion for psychological reasons (both for opponents and players themselves)- showing no emotion can mean that you are either super focused on a big picture (ei. eventual championship) or that those sorts of big plays are actually so common for you that they don't even make an impression on you.
Piotr Nowacki You are talking about suppression, which is sometimes necessary, and in sports can be tactical.
She was talking about repression, which is usually harmful.
Mike Blain What a comment. What a distinction. Kudos to you sir.
You see the 2 problems right away:
A) The Oprah format pretends to solve problems in 1 hour minus commercial times.
B) The audience doesn't realize that they are being "eaten" by the action. They are the sacrifice for the revealed truth being relayed by the priests on stage.
@39:13 Is this the same woman Rand branded a "hippie" in her prior Donahue appearance?
Everyone should study Ayn Rand as early as possible in life, before they become brainwashed.
@jeep23862 no you fool...
@jeep23862 Are you a pragmatic?
@jeep23862 Of course you are
@jeep23862 I dont want to waste my time trying to prove a hardheaded guy like you the truth. The sadness in your eyes will tell you.
@jeep23862 Given the eyes reflects your ignorance of your mind, I can tell.
there is a huge difference between 'selfish' and 'self-interest' - she advocates the latter
Correction to the description, this was filmed in 1980. Rand said she was born in 1905, and Donahue said so you're 75.
technically that could also be 1981 but rand also talks about the "incident last year" in reference to a 1979 interview with donahue
Did Mrs Thatcher get her famous statement "There's no such thing as society" from Ayn Rand? I know she was influenced by 'Road to Serfdom' by Hayek but not sure about Rand.
The comparisons between how men interact in athletics and "normal life" is rather stark. What do athletes say they miss most once they retire? Being around "the guys". The "comradery". Professional athletes, amateur, and similar the like are so very fortunate in a number of ways. But especially the positive atypical relationships they have with other men that are scarce in other aspects of life
This must have been 1980 if they are talking about Carter and the US hockey team beating Russia.
Exactly. Ayn Rand was born on February 2, 1905. She said on the show that she was 75. So, this was filed in 1980.
Also references the Iranian revolution and the Shah's escape into exile.
Seriously, can someone sort out the English Subtitles on this video...
Alguien que me lo pase en subtitulos español por favor!!!
I love this woman. Also, the end of this interview brought me to tears. 43:38
"I don't think he has any ideas, and if so, then he has no feelings". Ouch. Leave it to Rand to give 'em a shot to the gut.
I think you mean "Leave it to Rand to oversimplify and pretend she knows everything about a man she's only ever seen on TV." It _is_ arrogance, and only arrogance.
Rand was an Atheist. IN another wring, she said, "The universe is not a haunted house."
She also cursed socialism and people who accept government assistance... until she got strung out on drugs and blew all her money... then she went straight to the government with her hand out.
She was a fraud
1:17 "It helps other people actually.." She cares that other people are helped... that would be news to those who demonize her.
Who is John Galt!!!
A character from her book
Forced cooperation is not real philanthropy.
Amazing how fifty-five years after leaving the Soviet Union she still retained that accent.
people often retain the accent they grew up with
The accent gave her power over people. She hid her flimsy philosphy behind it.
@@tabby1412 Flimsy? How so?
@@MrJes3141 Rand built a fantasy "man" character to counter the fantasy Marxist man that had damaged her life and country. Both are ridiculous and do not bear out in basic observation and daily life. Her "philosophy" is entirely reactionary and a warped form of self defense. In the end, she began to crack and practically begged St. Peter to save her. I hope he did.
I love this woman. She was a gem.
lol more like a lonely, wounded woman.
she was a gem when she railed against socialism when she was young and had money, but later in life when she was a drug addict and broke... she went straight to the government for hand outs.
I love her.
I appreciate her defense of individualism, and against the collectivist state, on that we are brother & sister. If I spent a weekend with her alone, murder comes to mind, she is so condescending.
Love her.
:P
She's dead, as you too will be one day.
She's really likable to people who recognize intellect. I agree, she's cute :-) I don't agree with her religious argument but I love her mind.
you misspelled her name in the title. At least get that part right when copying videos.
Phil Donahue (born in December, 1935) is 85 years old. He's happily married to Marlo Thomas (daughter of Danny Thomas), since 1980. His marriage has been enriched by the altruism of Marlo Thomas, and her work with St. Jude's Hospital Foundation.
Ayn Rand (1905-1982) underwent surgery in 1974; in 1976, she subsidized her medical needs with medicare and social security services.
He had a great show.
Yawn. This story is a canard that ought to be retired. She had no choice but to opt into it as Medicare was a mandatory government policy. Please do some basic research before posting.
She paid considerable tax through the years. It was the medical system set up in this country by the Altruists. Survival, you do what you have to reasonably do.
Do you mean she legally took back some of the wealth that was stolen from her at the point of a gun? Go read what she had to say about social security before you make a fool of yourself.
Do yourselves a really big favor and leave RACE (and all that it implies) out of your discussion(s). Why? Because it simply demonstrates the myopic boundaries that will inevitably impose "restrictions" on anything of value that might usher forth from your mind. Her philosophies, NOT her heritage, is what is important.
I hadn’t realised Donohue started out doing “respectable” tv.
The early Donahue was the good Donahue. He got desperate as time went by.
Actually, a great many of the discussions on his program appear quite polite and civilized when juxtaposed against the culturally suicidal anarcho-tyranny of 2024.
At about the 30:00 mark, Phil responds to the woman with the short blonde hair, who just explained she like Rand's works because she thought the ideas made her unashamed to be herself, with reference to male chauvinism. He's inviting her to embrace vicitimhood. He's shutting her down.
Old Do-Gooder Phil. Do good with other people's money to make him feel good that he fought to get you to cough up tax to help those that he thought supported him.
Ayn Rand misunderstood Max Stirner's "Einzige" - Stirner was an individualist mystic in his "The Only One and It's Possessions" who infuriated Karl Marx and the Capitalist establishment.
Ayan rand such a inspiration my life
I feel badly for you
People are not stupid when they say that their lives have changed after reading Ayn Rand works..its the greatest philosophy mankind will ever learn..shame that people dont understand it and often make fun of it..but believe me in the coming time objectivism will find its place in the world and people will accept it eventually..!!!!!!!
Or the world will go down in destruction. Hopefully, there will be a repository of her writings that survives so those of us that are left can rebuild.
If u read atlas shrugged and the money speech and r alive now it is amazing on how ahead of the time she was
Ayn's goal from the beginning was to wake American up during the late 1930s of where FDR was taking America into, Socialism. She lived it in Russia under Lenin and Stalin. She saw govt destroy her father's success as a pharmacist. It broke him. Individual success was bad, collectivism was good. She saw this happening here under FDR.
I love her smile. It’s genuine
absolutely brilliant..she cannot be intimidated...""no matter how ..talk host etc...tries...he just looks stupid...ignorance misunderstood...she holds he own..and i have learnt much
Phil was obviously a Carter fan.
Ayn Rand was an intellectual tour de force! 👏🏽 what a woman!
she was morally bankrupt, and encouraged short-term thinking and greed.
@edwardgiovannelli5191 there's no such thing as "morally bankrupt". And she was a long-term thinker in the truest sense because she understood human nature.
@@manusha1349but she didn't understand human nature... she played to, and celebrated, the worst of human instincts and rationalized them by calling them 'rational.' But she couldn't grasp the better angels of humanity so she condemned them as frivolous
To think she understood all of human nature is, I'm sorry, laughably inaccurate. At best, naïve.
Everyone wrap it up. We go it all figured out. Thanks for the logic and rationale dude.
35:00 her response tells you most of what you need to know to understand Ayn - be free to be who you are, believe what you believe, express what you want to express, as long as it's on her terms.
Yes, conrade
not exactly....certainly you are free to express yourself anyway you like, but if you expect her to accept it at face value, then it does need to be on her terms. Same judgement as everyone should be using for themselves.
this interview was conducted in 1980 not in the 70s
Most people don not understand the broad definition of "aromatic," or "romanticism."
The world she embraces is a world I certainly find harsh and ignoble.
Being realistic about life has a way of doing that to people.
Steve, that's "Ayn Rand" not "Any Rand".
doctorx0079 not Danny Rand? 😂😂😂
@MAFIOSA E what's funny about that
That was fascinating.
Totally agree there should not be any victims in a marriage or a relationship (I used to play one). Not so sure about "No sacrifices". I do like a lot the way she defined sacrifice (subbing for lesser value or non value). But we could probably find examples of true sacrifice, so defined, in a committed relationship.
I'm not sure how she was able to get through the crowd calling her fascist and racist and blocking the door to Donahue's studio.
She was smarter than all those idiots who were throwing evert buzz word at her. A million times smarter!!!!
Something very interesting, and I know this is an old show... but it's kind of interesting to see the "right wing" guest arguing for atheism and the "left wing" host arguing for religion.
She is in no way right wing
@@jonathonhanson7278 Did you notice that I enclosed it in quote marks? LOL. Relatively speaking, her ideas, or to be more specific, the economic implications of her philosophy, are in line with what many today consider economic conservatism.
@@tomservo75 She wouldn't agree with any political party today because they have abandoned the small businessman or Capitalistic system by impeding, and getting in the way, stopping advancement of free-thinking rational men that this country was founded on.
She wasn't right wing and she dispised conservatism as much as "progressivism". You haven't done your homework.
She kinda reminds me of Brother Theodore who used to be on David Letterman back in the day
Phil Donahue says he's Catholic, but he'd like the Catholic Church to be less religious and more leftist and altruistic, which (in my view) says he's an atheist, but one which keeps superficial tradition. 😊 However, I admire the fact that he invited people he disagreed with, and was civil. A very different person from the leftists we see today.
Her idea of not sacrificing for all was good for some extenet but her view on 3 r world countey regarding them as a barbarians is just idiotic
Donahue brilliant in putting challenge in words. What he said about skyscrapers is to be recorded. All this facing a myth of philosophy with his humour bugs bunny style.
Danahue wasn't getting it in the second interview.
I wish Ayn Rand would be alive today and speak on a podcast where she's not interrupted by the host every 5 seconds and commercial breaks every 7 mins.
Wow. An Ayn Rand podcast. That would be something.
Is there any podcaster today equal to this woman's brilliance? No.
And look at how low talk shows have sunk. The View, Jimmy Kimmell, Bill Mahr...
No wonder the West is an insane irrational mess.
@@maryevans767 No. that's not true, we still have charlatans like jordan petersen and joe rogan for basic people to look up to.