Ayn Rand's Last Public Lecture: The Sanction of the Victims
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- (VIa Libertarianism.org) Ayn Rand defected from the U.S.S.R. and came to the the U.S., where her anti-collectivist writings formed the intellectual basis for the philosophy she called Objectivism. She is the celebrated author of many books and essays including We the Living (1936), The Fountainhead (1943), Atlas Shrugged (1957), and Capitalism: The Unknown Ideal (1966).
This video is of Rand's last public lecture at a 1981 National Committee for Monetary Reform conference in New Orleans. The text of this lecture, which is titled "The Sanction of the Victims," would later be published in a collection of her works called The Voice of Reason: Essays in Objectivist Thought (1990).
In the lecture, Rand admonishes American businessmen for apologizing for capitalism and for, in some cases, directly funding detractors of the free market. Notably, she says that "It is a moral crime to give money to support your own destroyers." She also answers audience questions after the lecture.
Download the .mp3 version of this lecture here: bit.ly/MwV4QT
I swear - by my life and my love of it - that I will never live for the sake of another man, nor ask another man to live for mine.
The farse is that this is rarely the case for it to be an issue. Its full of BS. Whatever individual or institution I'm aware of makes contributions voluntarily not forced.
I swear - by my life and my love of it - that I will never live for the sake of another man, nor ask another man to live for mine.
Beautiful!
@@sarchisi You must live on Mars.
It s just fantasist hogwash. No one just lives for others
When you think of it, what an amazing woman. Comes from Russia and takes the US intellectual circuit by storm. A lot of bravery and honor there. One of the greatest defenders of liberty we have had.
💯 so many people don’t know her personal story because she never sought sympathy as a matter of principle, but it is also persuasive because the world she escaped is the one she warns against. She knows what went wrong because she lived it.
I suspect if more people knew her story they would be more inclined to listen to her ideas with an open mind
A@phil... Rand and her views have been proven out to be totally corrupt. She tried to justify the "greed is good" society that today has lead to the decline in quality of life for most Americans so a handful of people who are not highly productive workers but who simply know how to work the systems can have more an more money for themselves. The data is in on her philosophy. She was awful.
She really influenced me at a time when I was mixing moving out of a tribal mindset. I have long ago outgrown her and though i love her and the role she played in my early life, her former partner psychologist Dr Nathaniel Branden has some brilliant critiques of her philosophy. I think it’s imperative to study him along with her.
ITISSO When the power of love overcomes the love of power the world will know peace."
~Jimi Hendrix
Wow! What a lecture. She really was a very brilliant woman with a brilliant mind. Her work will live forever and save humanity.
very brilliant mind and her work will live forever.... But it will not save humanity
"I'm a male chauvinist proudly" (C)
Bless your heart, my Lady! We desperately need you nowadays...
Chilling, i have goosebumps listening to her predict the future
I love the way she predicted 2008 and the current bank failures due to her philosophy. Such a great foreign philosopher. Every dog has her day.
Not the mantra about Russia.
@@innagotavita6117 More like the Mantra of our founding fathers who were intellectually, morally, and spiritually superior to this twit.
00:04 The most socially useful occupation is the application of scientific knowledge to improve human life.
03:27 Heroes are seen as the most hated in humanitarian society.
10:06 Altruism and collectivism rely on denouncing and inducing guilt in their victims
13:09 Businesses using misleading slogans to suggest populism and equality.
19:24 The power of philosophy and responsibility in supporting ideas
22:07 Struggle of young advocates of capitalism in universities
27:46 Inspiration for the country lies with businessmen and their philosophical self-defense and self-esteem.
30:47 The battle for capitalism will be won when we find a president capable of inspiring people towards a better world.
36:28 Ayn Rand expresses sympathy for Polish solidarity but believes they are doomed. Also, clarifies her stance on the Moral Majority and criticizes Reagan's economic plan.
39:16 Ayn Rand's ideas developed from observation, not events.
45:06 Individual free will and choice determine the fate of the world.
47:59 Ideas as the reform catalyst and moral justification for gold standard
You captured her most salient points, Nuno.
I'm curious to know if you memorised and wrote them to heart, or kept going back in the video to note them.
I was trying to work out a way to copy your post.
😊
Wow! Thank you so much for uploading this video - a piece of history.
Snappy Ape history is only relevant today, it seems the relevancy is being forgotten, even recent history.
Lets try for Marxism? Again? Cause it didn't work the last half dozen times...
Rome?
Greece?
We've gotta try again. Obviously. Cause history suggests that's the natural course of events.
AtoZ. I LLLLove Her.
Rand's words ring true today, Americans should heed her warning.
Man.... this could have taken place yesterday. Ayn's words are applicable today.... so crazy, lol, especially her critique and assessment of the journalists/media. AND I LOVE the comment "I am a proud male chauvinist!" 😄
She is and was a superior intellect
Not much has changed. It's how the plan works.
Her thinking justified the "greed is good" ideology that modern day corporate executives us to justify taking more and more money from society while making growing numbers of Americans poorer and less secure. Greed is not good and never had been and she convinced the greedy in this world to think of themselves as virtuous for their greed. How is that good for society?
When you start with certain preconditions human nature and the eventual outcomes becomes predictable.
I had a colleague from Russia in the early 90's. I of course asked him why the Union failed. He said that the system put in place rewarded virtual signalling to the party(modern wording) and laziness and removed the impetus for individual personal improvement. You were allocated a job, and that was your career for life. So, once you left university your life was unlikely to alter until retirement. Why work any harder? But people had spare time, so they spent a lot of time bartering with others on the black market.
Ayn would have understood at least the beginning of this until the iron curtain descended and merely project forwards what would happen.
3:22 Doesn't she know she being video taped right now?
I bet she had no idea that people would watch this 43 years later, still all these years later.
She is wonderful!
She’s such a badass 😎
BS. Self important intellectual claptrap manifested in dry boring literature. Her philosophy, worshipped by the hypocritical Wall Street manipulators, has produced the biggest corporate bailout in 2008. They just can’t control their greed. Human nature requires restrictions. Have “ hands off” policies and you have another 2008. Banks are failing now.
I first heard of Ayn Rand when I noticed the bad guy in 'Dirty Dancing' had a copy of one of her books in his back pocket. Subtle!
Crazy
Media has loved to do everything they can to slander her works for decades on decades. I even saw a spiderman comic the other day that made fun of a character for having an "Ayn Rand phase in college". It's everywhere, if they want you so badly to avoid thinking about her words, that tells you everything you need to know
once in a blue moon and by accident even the academic media industry gets it right. maybe? @@velraven8944
There are many strong women like this. But they have no need or even the time or bother to bother with publicising globally and taking aim at the importance and ignorance of humanity.
But I agree. I hope one day this world grows some balls and understand that we are self destructive and cannot comprehend the meaning of life though we live it daily.
When the power of love overcomes the love of power the world will know peace."
~Jimi Hendrix
Love your observation about love and power!
@@conradbulos6164 Jimi was the one who’d inspired me to become a Paratrooper back in 1971. He was one about 10 years before me.
@@soldtobediers So I presume you became a heroin junkie a few years later. Great role model, and brilliant method you have for deciding life's paths. RIP
@@johnnynick6179Presumably a rough night @ the The Patio in Vero Beach last Tuesday. So I reckon I'll take that junkie crap accusation & make a manure of it to throw back @ you - in the hopes that someday you too will blossom.
~Just another one of those many one's of... ''We His Believers''
Who's patiently waiting & watching for '.' His✝Just⚖Return🪃'.'
When the lovers of power stop hiding behind “the power of love” there will be peace.
She actually wanted Farrah Fawcett to play Dagney Taggert. I read that she wrote a letter to Farrah,and a complimentary one too. Farrah Fawcett herself has read Atlas Shrugged and the Fountainhead.
I disagree with choice. Farrah is pretty but doesnt look intelllectual
enough.I agree with the movie's choice of in both the two movies and Gary Cooper as Howard Roark.
That's hilarious that she stopped her speech to tell them not to take her pictures because he was "too old for that". LOL!
So prophetic! Exactly what we have now, thanks to liberalism and wokeism!
Yes. I remember how the Wall Street Rand lovers asked for a bailout in 2008 because they couldn’t control their corruption and greed. Many good people suffered. She really is a great profit/ prophet isn’t she. Corporate wellfair is just fine for capitalism?
Liberalism is just as damning as elitist Right Wing megalomania. Just don’t blame one side . The Atlas Shrugged series was just as boring and dry as she is.
@@pkaye5876 aren't you worn out after those mental gymnastics?
@@corbindallas1954 Just getting started. Trying to shame me?
@@pkaye5876 Nope! You've done well enough bringing shame upon yourself, thank you very much. 🙂
I'm glad we have these recordings. But I wish she were alive and well today. With George Carlin, speaking out. What 1 2 punch I think they would be against today's 'woke' agenda
What a double act indeed!
It would break her heart to see what the world has come to. I'm glad she is not here to see it. I wish I didn't have to see it.
Morality: "Morals" are the CHOICES one makes in living one's life. "Ethics" is how one functions within one's choices.
Mary: "Son, why have you done this to us? We've been searching for you everywhere for three days!"
Son: "Did you not know that I must be about my Father's business?"
The final word on business, man. And, Ayn's photograph.
Her point at the end, on abortion is only logical if you do not consider the baby inside the womb to be a human life.
you may notice that logic is not her strong point, nor imagination. I'd be tempted sorely to choose abortion rather than be her child I'm afraid.
@@jillfryer6699lol heard that
@@jillfryer6699she wouldn’t have a raised an emotional twat
Maybe the greatest orator in history.
lolololololololol.. funniest thing i heard ever
REASON OF THE INTELLECT
THE SELFISH KIND
IT IS TO FOSTER
THE CREATIVE MIND
KNOW YOUR KINGDOM
HOLD YOUR BANNER HIGH
DO NOT ENDURE SIMPLE FAITH
IT'S A PLACE YOU GO TO DIE
ELEVATION OF REALIZATION
SISYPHUS AND HIS A STONE
GATHERS MORE STRENGTH
AS HE SLOWLY PUSHES ALONE
This woman was so far ahead of her time. I wish we had a strong woman like this now. The closest I can think of is Candace Owens. Take THAT feminists!
Candice Owens couldn't hold a candle to Ayn Rand. She's not proposed anything new, come up with an original thought. She has a tv show, grifts off patriots and contributes her opinions.
@@XLeo1976 … apples and oranges
Why would someone compare the two ?
Different arenas.
Camille Paglia
@@rickwyant okay, I agree. Better comparative.
You've got to be kidding.
Wow what a woman,what a mind,what a handfull!Ayn your Breakdown is Amazing.
I like & agree with many of her ideas.
there are very few great minds and Rand is one of them
Altruism is a mindset/value that can help vulnerable people in a group by members within the same group. Eg. The poor may overcome if they, among the group help each other. To use public funds to alleviate poverty is not an example of alturuism. It is social welfare. Overall, I like her general philosophy on many points.
She is no nonsense. .shes a badass!
Died dependent on social security that would be antithesis of what she preached herself all her frieking life. Her inner circle Braden etc couldn't live together just ppl who are irrationally un-livably selfish bunch. But take comfort what you have in the US (State Corporatism) is what Capitalism she preached.
how I wish she was my grandma
I wish you to grow up and one day be thankful she was not
Ayn Rand was magnificent at any age. Goddess of philosophy!
Anyone any idea Where to find a pdf copy of this speech …..
You hear she lived in another time..
She was on social security here. Worth bearing in mind.
The money had been stolen from her income. There is nothing wrong with getting a bit of that money back.
That's because she died alone and broke. Her books went on to make money but her last days weren't very lavish.
Missing your point… if you have one.
So what? That doesn’t change the validity of her analysis on society
Nothing wrong with that cuz she is justgetting back was she put in as a taxpayer, nothin more, nothing less.
people commenting negatively here ignore her one of her main thoughts was the state should be separated from the economy - ultimately that there should be no "healthy interest" in being a politician
people commenting positively do not see that it is raher altruistic of her to share her philosophy so selflessly
Yeah lol, it's so altruistic being a self-absorbed POS, because everyone gets the wonderful opportunity to be subject to it. Damn, we should all be grateful that narcissists even breathe in our direction, right? Makes so much sense.
One could argue that sharing her truth, isn’t altruism but actually in her own interest.. it brought her happiness I’m sure, to at least try to save the very country that she loved.. even if it was in vain..
She is so great! It is too bad she got it wrong on Pres Reagan - I think she would have a lot of praise to give if she had had the chance to observe his accomplishments.
Even though I am a Pro-white Advocate and this woman is Jewish I love her philosophy, under both communism and National Socialism both the human sprit and mans ability to reason become stifled, She tried to warn us but we didn't listen and now we live in a world on the edge of chaos, the left wants us to love everybody (except white people)and treat everyone the same regardless of their inherant value without respect for the for borders or the ethnicity who created the civilization while the right seeks to re create a 4th reich with some sort of Pan Eurasian Duganism through the help of Communist Countries such as China and Russia both lead to the same outcome, the stripping away of the rights of free individuals and an economy controlled by the government, she was way ahead of her time and I will always love her Ideas
@@zyxwvut586 regardless her ideas were good and true
>>>>white anon here
At least you are not openly anti- jewish like the hated German Nazis but might be their imported cousins from the deep
Pre-Emancipation south.
All the right wingers here applauding but the right does the same thing she is admonishing: 37:39 & 50:40
Wonder what Ayn would be thinking now of the current issues:
The Internet and Social Media
The crazies in the Left influencing schools and colleges
The crazies in the Right involving Religion and Politics
Russia causing trouble again
Russia getting back
@kennethramirez7450 She'd say I told you so. Why didn't you listen.
The business man vs The scientist: sometimes they are the same person
I think most people dislike the rich business men who get rich using dirty means, not the successful people who truly provide value, they are usually loved and admired by most. So I don't agree with her on that point, that altruistic people, or people, hate all rich businessmen. She could be much more nuanced on that one.
Over generalizations are used beyond reason. But the movie kicked @$$
Her memory is a blessing 😊 As much as she reminds me of my grandmother’s fierceness and, as much as I admire her intelligence, I think that her views were shaped by the political realities of her time.
I have lived under communism and under capitalism, and I have concluded that they have more in common than one would like to think. The distribution of power including material wealth is somewhat more diffuse in a capitalist society (with its middle class), but the principle of ‘powerful few’ who irresponsibly lead the mobs is a common feature. To put it academic terms, same stinky turd, different shape.
The West will fall, dragging down with it the rest of the world. It has reached a no- return point that cannot be resolved with another global war or other human- made catastrophe as a reset (economically, socially, or culturally putting the cart before the horses). The causes are at individual level, not systemic, therefore any attempts on the part of the profoundly idiotic bipedal animals are doomed to fail sooner or later.
Yes, animals. I strongly believe that the whole homo sapiens species is, and should be seen as composed of two sub- classes: animals and humans. The difference between the two is just one- the humans are animals who have a healthy and strong moral nerve, a spine. Alas, we live in a jungle, not in a society.
The humanoid animals are selfish, but in a way that doesn’t serve the purpose of selfishness which is securing one’s own wellbeing.
If you seek only your benefit you will not invest in preserving and naturally enhancing your social and natural environment; therefore, sooner or later, you will suffer. Being completely selfish AND intelligent is the only way. I agree that ‘denial of your self’ ideology is a sign of criminal stupidity, but so is ‘capitalism’ where human value is equated with monetary value and in which you can accumulate power by buying what you have not produced with $1 and selling it for $2 after you create a monopoly with your mates and create false needs in order to create demand for what you’ve got to sell. Being rich is nothing to be proud of, you’re just a monkey that was clever enough to steal most bananas, whilst not caring about the others who don’t have enough.
Speaking about ‘the poor’… There are those who are at a disadvantage because of disability (which, in itself, has a huge social component). Only an animal can think of those physically or intellectually less able than themselves as being a ‘burden’ and, thus, seeking to eliminate this ‘burden’ either actively (eugenics in one shape or form) or passively (by actively sabotaging or just not investing in health services, education, etc). Are there ‘undeserving poor’? Yes, there are. There are many animals who would rather live off alms from the state though they are perfectly capable of earning a living whilst making a positive contribution to society and developing one’s self through genuinely meaningful work. Keep the poor poor and stupid because you must feel good about yourself (‘I am not poor, therefore I am intellectually and morally superior’) and because stultified mobs are relatively easy to control.
Academia jungle is full of the worst types of animals who could think properly but they wouldn’t because it’s way easier to learn how to rhetorically persuade than honestly enquire about truth, kiss the established others’ arses for a research- teaching banana tree branch, and/ or explore topics that either have no practical relevance or worse (those who are philosophically or technologically, definitely obsessively, studying the black holes of their arses instead of putting their heads to the good use of finding solutions to the problems that plague the real world). Yes, they are the ones who most deserve the title of ‘Arsehole’ instead of ‘Dr’ because they poison the minds of the students.
Re abortion. Well…the humanoid animals fuck (the other animals reproduce according to their biological rhythms only). Humans make love and choose to have children. All the debates around when an embryo is ‘alive’ are irrelevant. The act of making love is one of the most beautiful expressions of being alive in a conscious way, and should be seen as mystical- sacred thing (because it is a mystery of life through love). In my opinion, abortions should be permitted only if the mother’s health is in danger (but even these situations could be prevented in many instances through proper antenatal care).
Humans are moral animals who are intelligent enough to be totally selfish and thrive within a thriving society, in harmony with the other societies that together form the global system. But who to educate the animals and who to cultivate the thirst for proper values that can guide their lives? Who cares? As I was saying, this planet is a jungle. No, actually, it’s worse than a jungle because any natural system has a type of natural intelligence which allows its development. Nobody cultivates morality and character, human dignity, the delights of a proper life (with its challenges), the pride of a genuinely good deed or achievement, the nobility of the human spirit. All these concepts are either scorned or given meanings that undermine them (for example, knowingly presenting a bunch of lies as ‘The Truth’).
Stupid animals. The tragedy is that all of it could have been avoided.
you miss the point, man has a mind to use it, I invite you to build a rocketship...
You have not read Ayn Rand. If you have; you did not understand.
You are exploiting the attention that Ayn Rand earns. By pretending to like her and agree with her, with just minor observations where you think she went wrong.
You are preaching as if this were a church. You bring no arguments. No new thoughts. Just claims. Just copy pasting your rambling all over the internet.
Wow.. 3:20 tells who she was. Thanks Atlas Society.
Ideas, shared opinions, obsevations are of value. We lack the art or desire of conversation with our fellows. Perhaps a sign of creeping totalitarianism?
Sad lady, her judgement day was harsh but well deserved. Still, I feel sorry for her.
Why didn't she want her picture taken? Seems counterintuitive for someone so media-savvy.
Helen Mirren is a much sexier version of this brillant novelist. Anyone that can make architecture interesting is pretty good in my book.
architecture is one of the most interesting things in the world and this woman is a fool or a tool or both.
Businessmen are about domination, pressure and control.
If she could only see us now!
Thank God that's over. Curiosity satisfied. Praise the Lord.
A smart woman with the empathy and charm of a Nazi firing line.
Her popularity is from the M fields....people feel she is right but they dont have the intellect to live by her standards. The Energy is acurrate so people are pulled towards it, but few can actually LIVE by it....that would be too hard for them ( or most people )
I dedicate today's viewing to mike mentzer!
She seems so comfortable here, much more jovial than on Donahue.
I imagine she felt like Hank Rearden when he is in court when she was on Donahue
Surprised about her opinion of Pres Reagan. She hated Communism - Reagan brought down Communist USSR with help of the pope. But unfortunate she died before that happened.
I feel sorry that she was never touched by spiritual faith. Perhaps if she experienced having her own children she would have known true unselfish love and the life's greatest Blessing and mystery.
Guess she had no clue that Soviet era would come to an end at that time.
Did that Atlas Shrugged teleplay ever come to fruition?
Yes it did in a 3 part movie
But it was real low-budget and it sucked. @@BJKuntz-nb5db
I agree with alot she says but she is so naïve in other ways. I wonder what she would have to say about the press/democratic communist party of today that would be interesting!
I would bet her message would remain the same.
Dont confuse her idealism with naivete.
prophet.
No, thinker.
The problem with Ayns theories is that altruism is only applied to left thinking. Whereas it can also be applied to ultra right thinking. Pursuit of love of self over others only fosters growth of endless greed for oneself over all others . This is the basis for all wars! Central thinking is the only way to balance!
Stated like a true altruist.
I think, Ray, that her idea of self love is more like self respect not to take advantage of others out of their possessions or emotions for self benefit.
She could have said you are all doomed i you haven't been listening in my lifetime
I came here after RGVs Ramuism about AYN RAND
I see they produced some sort of telemovie in 2011, was it an interpretation of Rand’s objectivism? Or is it predominant her work with some slight gaps filled in?
Peikoff was not famous in 1982.
It is sometimes really unbelievable that some people never learn English properly. It is very hard to listen to her thick accent.
She was dead wrong on Poland.
Jesus was an altruist, not a capitalist.
Jesus was a carpenter.
how we get to live with such extreme views is so sad and yet common place - we come to believe we are right rather than perhaps a little less wrong but always ignorant of the bigger pictures on multiple levels - ignorant certainty.
Philosophy is more entertainment than it is reality
Confusing, Ayn is Pro Choice and the Right is Pro Life.
She was also an atheist which is counter to right leaning thinkers.
@@teloro1959 I think its just that the Right are more tending to pretend to be religious because they think thats what the majority of their supporters want. all politicians will say whatever they think will get them elected. them on the left think most of their supporters are indifferent or not pushy about religion because they have alternate sources for moral reference or at least its a mutual agreeable pretence, to be above needing gods or religions.
She wasn't on the right-that may be what is confusing you-and she wasn't on the left either. She wasn't on the communist-fascist spectrum at all but the arch-enemy of both.
@@kitchencarvings4621 Thank you.
I like a lot of Ayn Rand's philosophy. Still if my memory serves there was some weirdness in her personal life. I think she was having an affair with a married man and was perfectly happy to be his side piece, but when this guy had an affair with another woman she threw a fit. I don't know, that seems like a logic disconnect to me. Don't get me wrong I like her philosophy but she still strikes me as one of those gaseous wind bags that were floating around during the mid 20th century, with Frank Lloyd Wright being another. Maybe it was better back then, now people actually care about what the Kardashians have to say.
SHe is defiantly articulate and smart but cant grasp what her hang up is with benevolence. Most individuals and institutions donate voluntarily and not forced as she implies for it to be an issue as she makes it out. What am I missing? Is she referring to taxes? She has to be an idiot to think individual greed will self correct a society without the intervention of a viable form of government.
Martin Luther King was an adulterer too.
@@sarchisi don't think she has any problem with benevolence or giving to others freely. Her is with altruism.
Yes she had an affair with a married man who's wife gave him up to make Ayn happy, which is against objectivism, as she gave up her happiness in favour of making Ayn happy.
He did in turn have an affair with another woman, which is perfectly in accordance with objectivism, as he must endeavour to find his own happiness, which made Ayn angry.
She is right.
Look at the Swiss style of government.
Low taxes, no national health, no free unemployment.
Low crime, clean streets.
A truly free society will self correct
27:40 borne out
I love Ayn Rand! She's so fascist, and.... well... fascist.
I’m getting nervous listening to her… man, she was very nervous here, very uncharacteristic… does anyone know why she was nervous?
the inevitable approach of meeting her Maker without her make up and hair as good as she'd like.
She is old, what did you expect?Probably suffering from a mlid
form of arthritis and poor vision.
Ayn Rand’s pathological hatred of anything even slightly socialistic (or what she perceived to be socialistic) clouded her reason. The fact that she applied for social welfare in later life is proof that her devotion to her professed beliefs were deeply shallow.
Um…oh maybe she had to survive?
I’m sure she paid taxes or she would have been jailed. She would have rationalized asking for social assistance as paying into a retirement fund perhaps?
@@ficklefialka309 Umm… irrelevant to the argument that her convictions were shallow.
@@urmisunshine8 My experience with all capitalist neoliberals or objectivists is that they are able to rationalize any action to fit into their extraordinarily malleable “morals”.
@@wordscapes5690 umm...do you know anything about the depth of her convictions? have you personally looked into her soul or somehow measured it using valid instruments? Didn't think so. All humans are deeply flawed, including you. Doesn't mean they don't have noble aspirations. Icarus ended up dead too but to judge his attempt at freedom as useless based on the outcome of the transpiring event is, well, shallow.
667
Sanitation field.
Sadly simplistic, narrow view. And, we do not have free will.
Speak for yourself. YOU have no free will. Many of us do. You can usually tell one from the other. The ones without free will look like simpletons, are lazy, spend time doing nothing and don't believe in free will. The others are too busy living a full and productive life to come to such an absurd conclusion that they have no will of their own and are only mindless robots.
And one have to read Lenin and Marx after this, to balance.
no you dont have to
You will find it more fun I promise.
Where Rand and I depart is with her support of abortion. If she was to advocate RATIONAL choice by an individual, should a woman choose more rationally with who she has sex knowing the potential result?
God bless her, JK lol
speak like a true serpent seed. you made Philip Rothschild proud.
She was a transgender male the whole run.
The Business Man AKA Donald Trump
Lives in ur head
@@traindr12 yes, because I am a business woman
Too bad Ayn Rand didn't live long enough to see the rise of businessman Donald J. Trump to the presidency of the USA!!
She's spinning in her grave. Trump is a Jim Taggart who learned the right words to say to get conservative votes.
"You don’t know my conception of self-interest. No one has the right to pursue his self-interest by law or by force, which is what you’re suggesting. You want to forbid immigration on the grounds that it lowers your standard of living - which isn’t true, though if it were true, you’d still have no right to close the borders. You’re not entitled to any “self-interest” that injures others, especially when you can’t prove that open immigration affects your self-interest. You can’t claim that anything others may do - for example, simply through competition - is against your self-interest. But above all, aren’t you dropping a personal context? How could I advocate restricting immigration when I wouldn’t be alive today if our borders had been closed?"
-Ayn Rand
@Doug Miles There shouldn't be illegal immigration. Entering a free country should be a simple and streamlined process.
@Doug Miles Communist.
Bill lupin - Trump is more like Dagny Taggart who was hated for being successful. Jim Taggart represents the Washington swamp who produce nothing but misery. Like any good communist, you are great at sophistry and can’t resolve the contradiction between your mind and what you see in reality. Your mind has been corrupted by liberalism with a heavy dose of adrenochrome and cognitive dissonance.
@@auggiedan Oh look, you learned objectivist buzzwords too, just like daddy Trump.
Thing is, though, Dagny didn't fight to keep people out of the country. Every person, she saw as an opportunity for trade. Dagny didn't fight to stifle Francisco's company, despite it being based outside the US. She would be offended at the thought. Other businessmen are someone to outdo, a challenge, stifling them through tariffs was admitting you can't beat them.
Opportunities aren't seized; they're made, by better minds than yours.
sounds intellectual but is actually pure rubbish
This woman was basically the Ben Shapiro, of her time.
Typical response … critical without any substance!
Common to get this from leftist group think.
"Television" ... what would she say about the internet, smartphones, and social media?
And what would she say about trump?
Why, she wouldnt give a shit about you lol
We know what she would say about Biden and his social views
She would most likely think Trump is a fool.
If you listened to her speech, she indicated the best leader for a capitalistic society is a business man, not a politician.
Trump would be Gail Wynand in the Fountainhead, ruthless and unprincipled.
Funny how Ayn & her minions trash the very scientist that invented technology/medication that they have owned/taken (by the bulk load). Selfish people's reasoning for not sharing their cake: It's the baker's fault for baking such a delicious cake.
I can only imagine what your kids are like.
"Let's rob all those selfish people who don't want to share with me. I will force them to share with me the fruits of their labour so I don't have to work" - The Generous Communist.
If we lived in a world of religious totalitarianism, I would find a purpose for Ayn Rand. If we lived in a world that suppresses the individual, I would find a purpose for Ayn Rand. If we lived in a dictatorship, I would find a purpose for Ayn Rand. If we lived in a Socialist or Communist regime, I would find a purpose for Ayn Rand. If we lived in the vacuum of space, I would find a purpose for Ayn Rand. Since our society is none of the above, I find Ayn Rand to be the biggest blowhard in history of intellectual thought. Time to get a quick lunch and get back to work or play! Have a nice day!
That was a load of nothing.
No meaningful critique just your personal dislike was expressed.
Nathan Cirillo No, I just know useless bullshit when I see it and hear it. We need Ayn Rand like Eskimos need snow.
A comment so void of substance that only someone fitting the description of the "biggest blowhard" would bother to write it.
@@firecloud77 Now you know how I feel about Ayn Rand.
@@rockintetster
Nope.
You'd really think someone who had lived in the US for decades and speaks in public would try to lose her terrible accent which makes her almost not understandible. What kind of lecture was this from? Who would pay to hear this? More important, how can someone speak for all this time and say nothing. Try to convince yourself that she has something to say. She's been dead for years and her cult lives on, and accomplishes nothing.
Perhaps it would be more useful if you focused on the content (and understand it) rather than the accent.
A shallow and flimsy observation. Who cares but inconvenienced you about her accent. As for the 'cult' you speak of, it is a legion of individuals and small business owners who ascribe to her philosophies - not some organized group of collectives and parasites that leech off the taxpayers. Wake up.
Yeah, like your Mr. Philosopher/speaker of the year.
If you can't appreciate her for who she was then I'm sure bugs bunny or daffy ducks more up your alley.
True definition of a troll.
Talks about she has no achievements yet her ugly accent has you watching her on TH-cam, and im sure this isn't the first time you've watched and listened to her.
alg11297 Aristotole has been dead for thousands of years, and he's still revered. What's your point? She is basically Aristotole btw.
Can you speak a foreign language without an accent? No?
Well maybe if you got a crowbar, and got that foot out of your mouth, it'd be easier.
Sorry, she has an incomplete philosophy.
By her theories there is no reason why someone should have ethics, which is a social constraint whereby we must agree to get along in a world of rules and cooperation.
Where the government protects ideas and patents for instance, and is therefore a necessity.
She comes across as opinionated and naive and completely ignores that we need cooperation in order to coexist in a society and as a society.
And why is she trying to spread her message in the first place? Is that her version of altruism?
She is simply encouraging selfish people to be selfish, apparently a message they want to hear.
There is self-interest involved in any form of cooperation.
It will still occur, but for the right reasons.
She may come across as "opinionated and naive" to you but she is hardly naive and opinions are what you just expressed.
@@freecitizen2760 thanks for the feedback. Everything you said is correct but it doesn't negate or override what I said.
I've watched her in interviews and really see her missing some stuff and coming across as incomplete. She is not stupid by any means, yet she does display some selective naivete.
Whenever someone tries to sell a limited concept, be it her "greed is good" message or someone selling the ideals of communism, they are always missing stuff. All of the different "isms" and answers leave unanswered yet important questions.
It's the equivalent of being convinced a huge beautiful truck is wonderfully appealing for you, but forgetting that you can't afford the fuel for your long daily commute.
The mistake of omitting practical details of something you've narrowly defined and idealized.
There are practical reasons our system has evolved into the hybrid it is despite the unlimited faults we can identify. For instance while it does seem counterintuitive that without taxation, we would actually have less money and a lower standard of living. But that is a reality that does not jive with Rand's idealized vision.
So again, your statements are not incorrect, but like her just a bit incomplete.
Robert Lewis :
I don’t see Objectivism as either “naive” or “incomplete”.
She presents an alternative to the “altruism” which cripples others into thinking the world owes them a living.
The way Objectivists see the world rang true to me when I was in my teens, and does so even more today.
“Altruism” leads to Marxism which has been tried many times, and has failed horribly every time.
Objectivism leads to capitalism, the free market where we can engage in exchanges of mutual benefit.
If those free, capitalist Objectivists see value in providing education, health care, and public infrastructure, and they voluntarily choose to fund those enterprises then that’s a good thing.
The idea that successful individuals are somehow obligated to take care of the less fortunate repulses me.
Imagine if someone showed up at my place of work, and demanded that I began to labour for them free of charge.
Legislated altruism is communism ... guaranteed to fail.
Objectivism is recognizing objective reality: I toil for myself and anything else is slavery.
What is “incomplete” or “naive” about that?
It’s actually naive to think that others should toil for you ... incredibly naive, and thus “incomplete” as well.
@@freecitizen2760 find me even one example of pure capitalism that has ever succeeded and I might say you are correct.
Just as there are no successful cases of pure communism, you will not find one.
As far as being "repulsed", as I said you are likely not aware of or just in denial of the reality that our hybrid system allows us to have more than if we had pure capitalism. We have more wealth and we also have greater stability than any non-hybrid would allow.
Ayn Rand is an idealist in the same way Marx or say Pol Pot or even Sowell or Friedman were. It comes down to striking a healthy balance between individualism vs our need to co-exist as a society.
There are exactly the same number of successful pure capitalist societies as there are pure communist ones. Zero.
As incomplete as Aristotle. She would have done much better (but remained unknown) if she did not try to turn Aristotle's sound (simple and true humanist) ethics into quite insane "socio-economical ideology". Almost as if she was afraid of being thought of as a communist - she tried to tackle religion(s) as little as possible...
What does she know about business when she was never in it? Ir's an outsider's look into what she thinks is reality.
Clearly you have a very long way to go in understanding what philosophy is all about!
alg11297 her father owned a business in Russia and the Communist took it away. She's a philiosopher, not a business woman anyway. She does what she does best, teach the truth.
She may not be a great industrialist herself, but she lived in Russia as it was turning communist. She fought the rest of her life against any warning signs in America.
alg11297 , You don’t think having the biggest numbers in history for BOOK SALES involves business? Writing, editing, publishing, public speaking: All her work was business. Know what you are talking about. 🇺🇸🇺🇸
No one knows everything. She knew that Freedom and Statism are incompatible.