As usual, stellar review!!! I love your channel!!! You guys have some of the most objective and thorough bag reviews on TH-cam! Thank you for feeding my bag addiction! :)
I’ve been waiting for someone to do a review on this bag! I’ve been itching to get this sling for foreeeever. I got my knack bag v2 but I was looking for a smaller edc bag. After your review, besides the stitching, I like it even more now! Ty for the review!
I switched my Bobby xd design for this sling, and it's been amazing! It's perfect size for my edc commute. I use the security latch from smaller pocket with a retractable key leash, and the interior of water bottle pocket with a travel size hygiene kit (it's waterproof from the inside of the sling). Among other things, I carry a 10" tablet, kindle (on tech compartment there's a perfect size pocket for it), power bank, charger, wallet, sunglasses inside with box, and still there's room for light jacket, extra shirt, a book... really feels like 10L. I don't carry a water bottle ( only 25 min to work).Just to resume, I can fit more here than in Bobby xd. I also bought to edc on future trips with my wife.
I got this 6l sling after watching your reviews and love it! Just received the new bigger 10l sling thinking it would be the same just bigger but to my shock they removed the entire middle compartment (merged the two into one) 😱 the main images on their website show it present but I didn’t notice the other images suddenly it’s gone…such a shame cause would’ve been perfect otherwise. Thanks for continuing to provide us with top quality reviews I never look at bags the same now 😂
I had the EXACT same thought! I even emailed Nomatic to ask when the 10L will be available again. (May '22). But after seeing that the 10L only has one "main" compartment, and not the two mains that the 6L has, I'm torn. In the meantime I am loving the 6L, even if I can't carry my 12.9 tablet. WHY would they remove the organization of a whole other "tech" compartment? There are so many good reasons to keep two large compartments, ESPECIALLY in the LARGER version of the sling!!!
Lol I bought this unit from Nomatic last week-no pass through to the top pocket and no zipper "lock". They really need to do a better job of differentiating these models and hardware/components between very similar looking generations. Frustrating, but enjoy the bag overall. Great reviews, man.
I know this video is 2 years old, but update on the zippers. That hard wire zipper frayed for me and those wires are sharp! I cut my thumb on it. A way I had to deal with it is using black electric tape to seal back up but its not as clean looking anymore. Otherwise, function and style is still solid.
Thank you for your honest review. This Sling got really fantastic design which satisfies all my needs like the optional belt, the size for holding an iPad Pro, lockable zippers, comfortable belt, organized compartments, reflective bar etc.. However, for that price tag, it got to improve the craftsmanship and the materials. I would put this Sling into my wish list and keep an eye on it. BTW, I miss the sceneries where are the districts I always stalking around. God Bless HK!
I like the bag because of the sleek design and other functionalities however I don't like the idea for the water bottle 😞...I would rather put it inside since it has enough space 😊
Thank you Aaron for this critical review of the 6L Nomatic sling, looks like a pass from me. Too many uncertain issues regarding the quality and choice of materials used for this product. Really wanted to like and purchase this sleek sling but will wait until the next version. Thumbs up bro!
Update: I did eventually buy this 6L sling and I do like it! I believe the one that you got for review was indeed an early production model because the one I received has no issues with the reflective bands looking poorly applied. For the area where that piece of fabric that is folded over and "jabs" you in the chest area I folded the extra flap and sewed it by hand so it now lays flat and it is now more comfortable when carrying heavy loads. Yeah, it shouldn't have passed the final builds before production but I really am impressed with the quality of the sling and how it feels. Not sure if you mentioned it in your review but the two grab handles are so nice and the main strap is so plush and dense that it is a joy to use. For my first daily carry I was able to put: an iPad Pro 11", Nintendo Switch OLED inside a slim semi-hard case, pack of sanitizing wipes, mini first aid kit, various short cables for charging, a headlamp, pen and permanent marker, Amazon Kindle Paperwhite (fits perfectly inside one of the sleeves in the back compartment) and for the small outer zip compartment: Anker Power Core Slim 10K power bank and a Powertac E9R-G4 tactical flashlight. It all fits well with some packing management and it is a bit weighty but overall that's a lot for a 6 liter case. I didn't test out the water bottle holder but it's a nice option to have. I currently use the Nomatic Travel Pack for work and needed something for everyday carry and not so large as a backpack and this sling is super cool looking (IMO) and is functional with minor drawbacks like the flap that shouldn't poke into your chest and non-YKK zippers but those are minor. I'm loving it so far.
Glad to discover your channel! Great production value in the video! Not sure if you already did this but it will be so so great to see a Nomatic Peak Design sling comparison.
Thank you so much for this review! Your reviews may be long but they are totally worth it! I just ordered this sling and am super excited to start using this! Hope you do a review of nomatics new navigator sling lite bags
I like the water bottle holder as well but it has proven to be EXTREMELY controversial. Also agreed - at this price point give me some freakin YKK zips Nomatic
Great review. Impressive product from Nomadic. Ive used their original travel bag for the last few years without issue. The price point and features on this one tho arent enough to get me to switch from my anello crossbody.
I wanted to love this bag, however the buckle design flaw is a deal breaker for me. Also found it difficult to get used to the strap being on the opposite side as most slings.
I am seriously looking at this as a front wear sling option. I'm in a wheelchair and want a front wear sling rather than hooking a backpack to the back of my chair. I'd love to know your thoughts or any better alternatives.
@@Nomads.Nation thanks for the advice. I went with the Navigator 6L. After a couple of weeks of use I'll let you know how its going. Am thinking of starting a channel or blog or contributing to another on EDC for wheelchair users
Do you have any recommendations on a “not so bulky and sporty” sling that needs to be able to fit a gimbal (32cm) and wallet, keys and some other accessories?
How can you fit a Sony a1 with 16to35 put and 24to70 gm Ii in it with a small tech pouch and a purse? Is it possible? Are the= any Altra think camera case for this camera and lens, or does it give enough protection itself? The peak sling 6 looks uncomfortable and doesn't have an external water bottle holder, the other ones are too big or uncomfy or doesn't have camera protection inside or not protective at all. What do you say? What do you recommend?
I meant using it as a camera bag if. You put some phone at the button of it couse it seems like , it doesn't have any protection there, and probably at the top of it neither. What do you think? 💬 🤔
I think so but you need to keep in mind that it’s not what it’s designed for. Nomatic is a very urban/business brand, and this bag reflects that user case. But still possible im sure
I need a new bag as I will be serving an LDS mission in May and I was wondering if this would fit a 40oz hydroflask in the main compartment (I know it probably won't fit in the outside water bottle holder)? I drink a lot of water and that's the only size water bottle I've found that can last me the whole day so if it doesn't fit, that's a deal breaker for me. The bottle itself is 12 inches tall. I'm also debating between this and the Arclite/Errant Sling, how is the waterproofing on this compared to Boundary Supply? Thanks!
Is the strap ambidextrous? I dig your videos. Just a suggestion, when reviewing don’t forget to comment on ambidextrous or not. It’s crucial and a deal breaker for left handed ppl. Left to right strap is not for me. Thanks!
Have you reviewed the 10L version of this sling? I know it’s out of stock right now but I’m wondering if it’s worth it, or is it something right between the 6L and the 15L navigator backpack that just isn’t worth it. For instance might as well jump up to 15L backpack or jump down to the 6L sling but not settle in between at the 10L
@@Nomads.Nation thanks for the quick response… yeah it looks like the answer to the 6L not being big enough for a small laptop and it looks like they added the external straps to this one for carrying stuff on the shell.. just not sure if that all makes it too big for a sling where you’re better off getting the 15L backpack with the extra room and more stability
Hi great review if is ok for you ill like to watch a video of the ALPAKA bravo sling I’m between the nomatic navigator 6l and the alpaka bravo v2 sling
Love your videos! I'm considering getting the navigator 15L and 6L bags, do you highly recommend them? I wonder how much discomfort and cons they possess
Thank you so much! I think that both are a bit expensive, but are very very good bags. I'll have a Navigator 15L review dropping in the next few weeks 🤙🏼🤙🏼
never have water bottle. i live country where water is free lol. if you diying you get water first open door lol, but i never on city 3 days so not need water bottle lol
as someone in the fashion industry, YKK is simply overpriced at this point and most of the market have caught up. while still industry standard, quality of most zippers are pretty much the same.
I can't say I'm an EXPERT, but my understanding is that they haven't become a household name by accident. They revolutionized the industry with higher quality, and they handle every last aspect of their manufacturing in house - still to this day! This commitment to quality is why they are regarded that the best. Is my understanding outdated?
I know, man. But since the zippers open sideways, it's better to have instant access to the inside than a water bottle. Since I don't carry one, I don't mind.
@@brenocarvalho4673 right...that’s why i’m not a fan of the whole configuration. Looks kinda cool but not for me. Actually these days i’m not wearing any backpacks...I find big messengers more ergonomic for my type of carry (probably not as good for my body though)
I love the design, but based on the review this seems like a bag where you pay for the design, not materials. Oh, and that sloppy stitching really does ruin the flush look of the bag... most egregious oversight for that price.
Nomatic bags are seriously overpriced for what you get. There are bags that cost less and give you way better space and features. People are simply overpaying because of the name on a bag.
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As usual, stellar review!!! I love your channel!!! You guys have some of the most objective and thorough bag reviews on TH-cam! Thank you for feeding my bag addiction! :)
Thanks so much for the love Gene. Comments like this fuel our fire. We have SO many more awesome reviews coming 💪🏻💪🏻
Damn this is without a doubt the best review channel on the whole of TH-cam. Always look forward to your reviews.
So humbled by this comment - this adds fuel to our fire to keep pumping out content. Thank you!!
I’ve been waiting for someone to do a review on this bag! I’ve been itching to get this sling for foreeeever. I got my knack bag v2 but I was looking for a smaller edc bag. After your review, besides the stitching, I like it even more now! Ty for the review!
Glad to hear that our review was useful! I also just got the Knack Pack 2 - review should be coming out soon - what a baddaassss bag!
I LOVE Knack. Have 3 of their bags. Wish they would develop sling bags they’d probably be great 👍🏾
Production quality is off the charts! Keep it up!!! Tnank you.
Oue cameraman Tav is a freaking wizard! Thanks Fredito
I switched my Bobby xd design for this sling, and it's been amazing! It's perfect size for my edc commute. I use the security latch from smaller pocket with a retractable key leash, and the interior of water bottle pocket with a travel size hygiene kit (it's waterproof from the inside of the sling). Among other things, I carry a 10" tablet, kindle (on tech compartment there's a perfect size pocket for it), power bank, charger, wallet, sunglasses inside with box, and still there's room for light jacket, extra shirt, a book... really feels like 10L. I don't carry a water bottle ( only 25 min to work).Just to resume, I can fit more here than in Bobby xd. I also bought to edc on future trips with my wife.
Thanks for the comment Breno, and I'm so glad you like the sling. I agree that the capacity is so impressive
@@Nomads.Nation what is the exact interior spac for a tablet? thinking about fittong the huawei matebook e oled in it.
@@k.o.t.o.n. ah not sure, that’s a question best asked for nomatic. Please let us know what they say
@@Nomads.Nation i asked them on youtub. hope they answer. :)
@@k.o.t.o.n. 🤞
I've been waiting so long for this! thank you guys for your amazing work!
Glad to help Breno! We've got the 1L review coming out soon as well :)
I got this 6l sling after watching your reviews and love it! Just received the new bigger 10l sling thinking it would be the same just bigger but to my shock they removed the entire middle compartment (merged the two into one) 😱 the main images on their website show it present but I didn’t notice the other images suddenly it’s gone…such a shame cause would’ve been perfect otherwise.
Thanks for continuing to provide us with top quality reviews I never look at bags the same now 😂
Thanks so much for the support! And that's a bummer about the 10L - I believe Nomatic has a pretty good return policy, you should check it out!
I'll buy the 10L sling from you.
I had the EXACT same thought! I even emailed Nomatic to ask when the 10L will be available again. (May '22). But after seeing that the 10L only has one "main" compartment, and not the two mains that the 6L has, I'm torn. In the meantime I am loving the 6L, even if I can't carry my 12.9 tablet.
WHY would they remove the organization of a whole other "tech" compartment? There are so many good reasons to keep two large compartments, ESPECIALLY in the LARGER version of the sling!!!
ngl that editing thing you do with the timer included in the box around the part of the video you’re currently on? that’s dope I love it
Thanks so much! That was our editor Tav's idea - he's a video-editing-wizard.
Great review of a great sling! After viewing this review I got one and it's become my daily go-to bag. Thanks for this wonderfully thorough review!
Thanks so much Ben!
The best review I’ve ever seen. Very good prof video! Enjoyed every minute.
Amazing to hear - thank you so much!
Lol I bought this unit from Nomatic last week-no pass through to the top pocket and no zipper "lock".
They really need to do a better job of differentiating these models and hardware/components between very similar looking generations.
Frustrating, but enjoy the bag overall. Great reviews, man.
Thanks David! And yes, Nomatic does great work but can be quite frustrating at times. I'm glad you are enjoying the bag overall tho 😎
This is my most favorite bag I’ve ever owned!!!!
You’ve got good taste Augusto - Tav would agree :)
I know this video is 2 years old, but update on the zippers. That hard wire zipper frayed for me and those wires are sharp! I cut my thumb on it. A way I had to deal with it is using black electric tape to seal back up but its not as clean looking anymore. Otherwise, function and style is still solid.
thanks for the update!
Thank you for your honest review. This Sling got really fantastic design which satisfies all my needs like the optional belt, the size for holding an iPad Pro, lockable zippers, comfortable belt, organized compartments, reflective bar etc.. However, for that price tag, it got to improve the craftsmanship and the materials. I would put this Sling into my wish list and keep an eye on it. BTW, I miss the sceneries where are the districts I always stalking around. God Bless HK!
100% agree, I hope that the next version has better materials/craftsmanship! 🇭🇰🇭🇰🇭🇰
I like the bag because of the sleek design and other functionalities however I don't like the idea for the water bottle 😞...I would rather put it inside since it has enough space 😊
The water bottle is super controversial! It's really interesting to see everyones thoughts about it. Thanks again Brenda!
Thank you Aaron for this critical review of the 6L Nomatic sling, looks like a pass from me. Too many uncertain issues regarding the quality and choice of materials used for this product. Really wanted to like and purchase this sleek sling but will wait until the next version. Thumbs up bro!
I’m in the exact same boat. Really wanted to like it, but it’s just not there for me yet. Thanks for the love - be sure to subscribe! ❤️
@@Nomads.Nation subbed and bell notified!
Update: I did eventually buy this 6L sling and I do like it! I believe the one that you got for review was indeed an early production model because the one I received has no issues with the reflective bands looking poorly applied. For the area where that piece of fabric that is folded over and "jabs" you in the chest area I folded the extra flap and sewed it by hand so it now lays flat and it is now more comfortable when carrying heavy loads. Yeah, it shouldn't have passed the final builds before production but I really am impressed with the quality of the sling and how it feels.
Not sure if you mentioned it in your review but the two grab handles are so nice and the main strap is so plush and dense that it is a joy to use. For my first daily carry I was able to put: an iPad Pro 11", Nintendo Switch OLED inside a slim semi-hard case, pack of sanitizing wipes, mini first aid kit, various short cables for charging, a headlamp, pen and permanent marker, Amazon Kindle Paperwhite (fits perfectly inside one of the sleeves in the back compartment) and for the small outer zip compartment: Anker Power Core Slim 10K power bank and a Powertac E9R-G4 tactical flashlight. It all fits well with some packing management and it is a bit weighty but overall that's a lot for a 6 liter case. I didn't test out the water bottle holder but it's a nice option to have. I currently use the Nomatic Travel Pack for work and needed something for everyday carry and not so large as a backpack and this sling is super cool looking (IMO) and is functional with minor drawbacks like the flap that shouldn't poke into your chest and non-YKK zippers but those are minor. I'm loving it so far.
Amazing review! Hope you review the navigator 32l carry-on bag too.
Thank you! The 32L is in the pipeline - stay posted!
Glad to discover your channel! Great production value in the video! Not sure if you already did this but it will be so so great to see a Nomatic Peak Design sling comparison.
Thank you so much for this review! Your reviews may be long but they are totally worth it! I just ordered this sling and am super excited to start using this! Hope you do a review of nomatics new navigator sling lite bags
Thanks so much! And yes, nomatic light series reviews hopefully coming soon :)
lasttime i also have the buckle problem , but i solved it with sent to bag repair center , they simply cut the sharped part then sewed it.
Awesome to know they took care of that for you!
Thanks for the review. Was considering the 10L, but looking at how spacious the 6L I'm going to reconsider.
So glad to help! And keep us posted which one you end up choosing
I like the water bottle holder or at least the idea of it agree with materials though we need YKK awesome review as always!
I like the water bottle holder as well but it has proven to be EXTREMELY controversial. Also agreed - at this price point give me some freakin YKK zips Nomatic
Great review. Impressive product from Nomadic. Ive used their original travel bag for the last few years without issue. The price point and features on this one tho arent enough to get me to switch from my anello crossbody.
Completely agreed. The price is pretty steep
What's over the chest comfort like?
Good... Not bad, not great
I wanted to love this bag, however the buckle design flaw is a deal breaker for me. Also found it difficult to get used to the strap being on the opposite side as most slings.
Aye, that buckle fabric thing sticking I to my chest is a major deal-breaker for me
Is it ambidextrous? I prefer a right to left strap.
@@captainsmash1 The strap is left to right, resting on the left shoulder.
I am seriously looking at this as a front wear sling option. I'm in a wheelchair and want a front wear sling rather than hooking a backpack to the back of my chair. I'd love to know your thoughts or any better alternatives.
I think this would be a great choice for your needs. Maybe also check out the Aer Tech Sling 2 and the Boundary Supply Errant Sling
@@Nomads.Nation thanks for the advice. I went with the Navigator 6L. After a couple of weeks of use I'll let you know how its going.
Am thinking of starting a channel or blog or contributing to another on EDC for wheelchair users
@@ajensen_86thfloor love that idea. email me aaron@nomadsnation.com if you wanna publish something on Nomads nation
Do you have any recommendations on a “not so bulky and sporty” sling that needs to be able to fit a gimbal (32cm) and wallet, keys and some other accessories?
Modern Dayfarer's got a few slings that might be up your alley. Not sure about fitting the gimbal tho, best to reach out to them
How can you fit a Sony a1 with 16to35 put and 24to70 gm Ii in it with a small tech pouch and a purse? Is it possible? Are the= any Altra think camera case for this camera and lens, or does it give enough protection itself? The peak sling 6 looks uncomfortable and doesn't have an external water bottle holder, the other ones are too big or uncomfy or doesn't have camera protection inside or not protective at all. What do you say? What do you recommend?
I meant using it as a camera bag if. You put some phone at the button of it couse it seems like , it doesn't have any protection there, and probably at the top of it neither. What do you think? 💬 🤔
this able to hold a Surface Pro 9 and cables? If so, it may be exactly what I’m looking for
No idea, reach out to Nomatic customer support, they should give you a clearer answer
Can this be used for hiking / suited to while hiking ?
I think so but you need to keep in mind that it’s not what it’s designed for. Nomatic is a very urban/business brand, and this bag reflects that user case. But still possible im sure
I need a new bag as I will be serving an LDS mission in May and I was wondering if this would fit a 40oz hydroflask in the main compartment (I know it probably won't fit in the outside water bottle holder)? I drink a lot of water and that's the only size water bottle I've found that can last me the whole day so if it doesn't fit, that's a deal breaker for me. The bottle itself is 12 inches tall. I'm also debating between this and the Arclite/Errant Sling, how is the waterproofing on this compared to Boundary Supply? Thanks!
Boundary better waterproof-ness for sure. Not sure about your water bottle - be sure to ask Nomatic customer support and let us know what they say 🙏🏽
Is the strap ambidextrous? I dig your videos. Just a suggestion, when reviewing don’t forget to comment on ambidextrous or not. It’s crucial and a deal breaker for left handed ppl. Left to right strap is not for me. Thanks!
It's not an ambidextrous strap, and great suggestion - will do!
I like this nomatic, price more abordable than backpack
For sure! It’s a great sling :)
does it come in a ninja turtle colour with shell imprints?
no but it f-ing should
Can you put the Navigator teck pouch
In the main compartment of the 6litter Sling Navigator.
Ah not sure, I'd recommend reaching out to Nomatic, they'll get you sorted :)
Is this comfortable for women to wear? I primarily want it for international travel.
cant really speak to that - hope someone from the community can help!
Nice Review! Thanks!
Glad you found it helpful!
Have you reviewed the 10L version of this sling? I know it’s out of stock right now but I’m wondering if it’s worth it, or is it something right between the 6L and the 15L navigator backpack that just isn’t worth it. For instance might as well jump up to 15L backpack or jump down to the 6L sling but not settle in between at the 10L
Haven’t reviewed it yet - hopefully in the next month or so. It looks awesome
@@Nomads.Nation thanks for the quick response… yeah it looks like the answer to the 6L not being big enough for a small laptop and it looks like they added the external straps to this one for carrying stuff on the shell.. just not sure if that all makes it too big for a sling where you’re better off getting the 15L backpack with the extra room and more stability
@@johnespo I feel you dude. I think nomatic has a pretty stellar 30 day return policy. Try the 10 liter and if it’s too clunky then switch it out
Quick question: What is the best sling out there?
Type into TH-cam search ‘best slings’. Our video should pop up number one :)
Does a magazine fit in the back tablet area?
Eh not sure tbh, might be a good question for Nomatic. Please let us know what they say!
Great video mate
Cheers Avocado 🥑
i want nomatic between 6L-15L something like 10L and back bag
That would be sick
Hi great review if is ok for you ill like to watch a video of the ALPAKA bravo sling I’m between the nomatic navigator 6l and the alpaka bravo v2 sling
Great request! Hopefully we will have an ALPAKA review soon - be sure to subscribe so you know once the video goes live :)
When will the Navigator 32L Travel Backpack review drop?
A few weeks! :)
Love your videos! I'm considering getting the navigator 15L and 6L bags, do you highly recommend them? I wonder how much discomfort and cons they possess
Thank you so much! I think that both are a bit expensive, but are very very good bags. I'll have a Navigator 15L review dropping in the next few weeks 🤙🏼🤙🏼
@@Nomads.Nation would you have recommended it over the aer bags?
No. I think Aer is better. Better materials and more affordable price
@@Nomads.Nation Thank you so much! I look forward to your Nomatic 15L video， been loving your other videos too!
He knows what he’s doing 0:00-0:08 😂 👀
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Is this water proof?
only scuba bags are water proof. This has some water resistance
The Hong Kong Views are nice.
They always are!
Do one on alpaka bravo x sling 👍
That one is on our radar - hopefully soon!
never have water bottle. i live country where water is free lol. if you diying you get water first open door lol, but i never on city 3 days so not need water bottle lol
I go back and forth. Sometimes carry one, sometimes don’t
Mine doesn't have any wrinkles at all, may be you got a bad one...lol...
Good to know Calvin! I was hoping this was the case, but I have to review the pack I got
as someone in the fashion industry, YKK is simply overpriced at this point and most of the market have caught up. while still industry standard, quality of most zippers are pretty much the same.
I can't say I'm an EXPERT, but my understanding is that they haven't become a household name by accident. They revolutionized the industry with higher quality, and they handle every last aspect of their manufacturing in house - still to this day! This commitment to quality is why they are regarded that the best. Is my understanding outdated?
Water bottle is on the wrong side. Instant dealbreaker.
I know, man. But since the zippers open sideways, it's better to have instant access to the inside than a water bottle. Since I don't carry one, I don't mind.
@@brenocarvalho4673 right...that’s why i’m not a fan of the whole configuration. Looks kinda cool but not for me. Actually these days i’m not wearing any backpacks...I find big messengers more ergonomic for my type of carry (probably not as good for my body though)
Definitely won't be subscribing but a pretty good review 👌 👍
Thanks for the kind words!
14:21 not eve 14 inch macbook lol. well you can put atleast BIGGEST ipad with small font. who has apple? well 18% desktop users lol
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2:41 so its nomatic then ugh
True dat
I love the design, but based on the review this seems like a bag where you pay for the design, not materials. Oh, and that sloppy stitching really does ruin the flush look of the bag... most egregious oversight for that price.
Can’t argue with that. I’m hoping it was jus my sample
Nomatic bags are seriously overpriced for what you get. There are bags that cost less and give you way better space and features. People are simply overpaying because of the name on a bag.
They are a very respected brand and have an aesthetic/features that people are willing to pay for. But having said that - I agree, overpriced.
You zipped do not last a life time
Thanks for the comment George!