Rosalyn Tureck - J.S.Bach - The Well-Tempered Clavier, Book I
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- Johann Sebastian Bach (1685-1750)
The Well-Tempered Clavier, Book I
Rosalyn Tureck, Piano
BBC Concert Hall Studios, London
Preludes & Fugues Nos.1-6: 30 September 1975
Preludes & Fugues Nos.7-12: 7 October 1975
Preludes & Fugues Nos.13-18: 20 October 1975
Preludes & Fugues Nos.19-24: 20 April 1976 - เพลง
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1. BWV 846 C major: Prelude [0:01], Fugue [2:30] * 2. BWV 847 C minor: P [4:45], F [6:21] * 3. BWV 848 C-sharp major: P [7:55], F [9:00] * 4. BWV 849 C-sharp minor: P [11:10], F [14:43] * 5. BWV 850 D major: P [19:53], F [21:16] * 6. BWV 851 D minor: P [23:18], F [24:30] * 7. BWV 852 E-flat major: P [27:01], F [31:37] * 8. BWV 853 E-flat minor: P [33:45], F [38:28] * 9. BWV 854 E major: P [45:45], F [47:15] * 10. BWV 855 E minor: P [48:46], F [51:31] * 11. BWV 856 F major: P [53:32], F [54:40] * 12. BWV 857 F minor: P [56:03], F [58:18] * 13. BWV 858 F-sharp major: P [1:04:12], F [1:05:45] * 14. BWV 859 F-sharp minor: P [1:07:51], F [1:09:12] * 15. BWV 860 G major: P [1:13:21], F [1:14:17] * 16. BWV 861 G minor: P [1:17:18], F [1:19:05] * 17. BWV 862 A-flat major: P [1:21:49], F [1:23:15] * 18. BWV 863 G-sharp minor: P [1:26:04], F [1:27:35] * 19. BWV 864 A major: P [1:31:27], F [1:32:52] * 20. BWV 865 A minor: P [1:36:21], F [1:37:32] * 21. BWV 866 B-flat major: P [1:42:20], F [1:43:33] * 22. BWV 867 B-flat minor: P [1:45:30], F [1:48:57] * 23. BWV 868 B major: P [1:52:42], F [1:53:50] * 24. BWV 869 B minor: P [1:56:05], F [2:02:54].
Thank you very much, Contrapunctus XIX!
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turecks left hand is amazing. her touch is like deeply rooted in the earth, and her phrasing is of the older taste from bachs times
I'm not a musician; but I greatly appreciate Tureck's tempos and interpretations. I don't claim to understand Bach, but Tureck's Goldberg Variations opened my mind to Bach and her WTC is similarly a revelation to me. I greatly respect Gould and Nikolaeva as well.
BWV 846 C major:
[0:01]/[2:30]
BWV 847 C minor:
[4:45]/[6:21]
BWV 848 C-sharp major:
[7:55]/[9:00]
BWV 849 C-sharp minor:
[11:10]/[14:43]
BWV 850 D major:
[19:53]/[21:16]
BWV 851 D minor:
[23:18]/[24:30]
BWV 852 E-flat major:
[27:01]/[31:37]
BWV 853 E-flat minor:
[33:45]/[38:28]
BWV 854 E major:
[45:45]/[47:15]
BWV 855 E minor:
[48:46]/[51:31]
BWV 856 F major:
[53:32]/[54:40]
BWV 857 F minor:
[56:03]/[58:18]
BWV 858 F-sharp major:
[1:04:12]/[1:05:45]
BWV 859 F-sharp minor:
[1:07:51]/[1:09:12]
BWV 860 G major:
[1:13:21]/[1:14:17]
BWV 861 G minor:
[1:17:18]/[1:19:05]
BWV 862 A-flat major:
[1:21:49]/[1:23:15]
BWV 863 G-sharp minor:
[1:26:04]/[1:27:35]
BWV 864 A major:
[1:31:27]/[1:32:52]
BWV 865 A minor:
[1:36:21]/[1:37:32]
BWV 866 B-flat major:
[1:42:20]/[1:43:33]
BWV 867 B-flat minor:
[1:45:30]/[1:48:57]
BWV 868 B major:
[1:52:42]/[1:53:50]
BWV 869 B minor:
[1:56:05]/[2:02:54]
A revision of Pilipa Landa's pinned comment, for my own use
G'day! I'm just amazed at the variety in these preludes and fugues. Each of them has a distinct flavor and personality.
It Is impossible to live without her interpretation in our minds
There is no question that Rosalyn Tureck belongs in the short list of the greatest Bach pianists. Her rendering of the wohltemperierte Klavier is poetic, crystalline, emotional, varied, powerful. The structure of the music comes through so clearly. Lovely record, thanks.
How'd you figure this out?
@@robertflynn6686 I wrote this comment 2 years ago. Before answering your quest I am hearing Tureck WTK recording yet once again. I maintain every word of my first comment. How did I figure it out? Seemed obvious at the time, it feels obvious now. I am the first to admit that I may be utterly wrong. If I was wrong, however, how do you explain that Yuan Sheng, considered number one pianist in China, spent one whole year studying Bach under Tureck in the US?
@@jorgeurzuaurzua4011 I am not critizing. It was 2 years ago. I actually agree in 2021 with your comment. What are your credentials to define music , or evaluate the musician . I would totally agree. Just wanted to see who you were. Very sweeping opinion thats all. Probably Tureck
better than I can grasp.
My purpose in 2021 is trying to apply certain new physics to how the brain or mind sees(enquotes) the brain and plays like that. How does she do this kind of genius 😳
Just adding here.
Were you commenting about
Haochen zhang, 21, China winner of
Van cliburn comp xiii. ??
Your spelling typo???
@@jorgeurzuaurzua4011 I found a pianist:
Yuan- sheng Tsai...
Born 1969
Taiwanese.
Could be who you mean.
Tureck would been in her 70s
When Shen Tsai would have seen her
in N.y.
Was she able to pass her secret genius to Sheng. At that point its possible.
@@robertflynn6686 Yuan-Sheng Tsai is not Chinese, he is Taiwanese and not a pianist, he is a plastic artist. Yuan Sheng (no hyphen) lives in Beijing, China, where he is a senior Professor of piano at the Central Conservatory. He is a world famous pianist, considered in China the best Bach piano interpreter, You may find in youtube several recordings (English suites, French suites, Goldberg variations). His playing is crystalline assured, perfect timing, Better known in the Far East than in the western world.
Beautiful. The apparent ease and nuanced expression with which it's being played. I'm very impressed. She must have been quite a personality I would have liked to have met. Great humble respect.
WOW. Sounds like if it is not played at the piano, but harpichord. Certain tempi are so fast that you have the impression it is not that known piece one heard a thousand times, and yet, things unheard elsewhere emerge, such is the clarity of the performance. Most probably she took some lessons directly from J.S. Bach. Bravo.
She was an experienced harpsichordist, and her recordings on that instrument are equally impressive.
Ihr Spiel ist einfach überwältigend… Danke!
(4:46)
she is from Bach family. I never seen such bravery different playing which absolutely never think and inherit other plays. just do it in a way that she believe that it's true by the most clearest meaning and by the most strongest feeling. I never ever have seen such a self Confidence in any damn field. she place his name, prestige, position and every thing that belong to her on her working. absolutely no even slight uncertainty. bravo.
Tureck is the great keyboardist of the last century !
個性的で、とても素晴らしいと感じる演奏でした。
この素敵な演奏に感謝します。
I've admired Tureck's recording of the WTC from the 1950's but always wished she had recorded it later, when recording technology was better. It turns out that she did just that. Thanks for posting!
About fifty years ago, I was sorting through the files of LP records when I came across this Rosalyn Tureck album, and bought it. I was immediately addicted to Bach and acquired my first piano, began playing, and still play. Tureck and her successor, Angela Hewitt, play Bach as a pianist should, as opposed to a harpsichordist, with a shaped line: with rubato, dynamics, and phrasing, all carefully managed.
DId Angela Hewitt study with Tureck?
@@kenc6082
No, not with Tureck, although in Hewitt's two disc DVD album, she refers to Tureck twice. And Hewitt's Golberg variations echo Tureck rather than Gould.
I think this is the best Bach WTC I've heard all in all; some other pianists I might think as highly of certain individual Preludes and Fugues from this work, true... Tempo is such a meaningful issue, and most pianists were taking it too fast for these pieces; she appears to have a profound grasp of the issue, and has I think appreciation personally of a special Seligkeit inherent in these works...
It is nice to hear something that is *not a Chopin remix of Bach like most pianists
How can anyone give this a thumbs down? Seriously
Angry Tureck fans who take exception to her very uncharacteristic hammering away on this set of the Das Wohltemperierte Klavier and to the inferior recording style, perhaps. She is the worst recorded keyboard genius of the 20th century.
@@christofeles63 She really could've done so much better. Was kinda excited and pleased until after the 1st prelude.
@@christofeles63 C# major prelude is pretty good too. It really sounds like Gould in the rough.
that's easy... they're self-important, brain dead, tone deaf, and soulless zombies, incapable of the most insignificant contribution to humanity, who can only find solace in tearing down others. they're not even worthy of our contempt. totally ignoring them is the sweetest justice.
_Some people are sick in the head! Good news! I have a hammer, usually fixes almost anything!_ 🤣
Thank you very much for your wonderful performance.
Oh! I like!
I love prelude no.17 from the end of fuga no.16. I will check Rosalyn. Thank you.
Thank you!
Thank you.
Superb!
Managed to get both Books. I love Gould, I love Richter, I love so many Bach players.. but this recording by Tureck of the Well-Tempered is the best.
I agree. I have several CD's of her playing Bach, which seem to be my "go to" discs. Rosalyn Tureck has a singular charm and way with J S B, seldom heard in many current performers. :-)
Hello Yves, have you ever tried Kempff´s Bach transcriptions? I deem they are really worth a listenning.
Surprised noone here mentions Edwin Fischer, he is vintage gold and really gives Bach, or what we think must be Bach for our modern ears, without romantic embroidering. Though Gould, Nikolayeva, Kempff and Tureck also superb interpreters. I am afraid today's crop don't cut the mustard. Our time is sadly not a time of greats or visionaries, it is a swan-song before the fall, a time for connoisseurs of the past.
I actually prefer Evelyne Crochets temp on most of the P&Fs... i base my own interpretations on hers... But I do like to listen to various performers in various tempos perform the pieces i play for better understanding as well as hear more themes being brought out that i might have overlooked.
@@scottson2 Absolutely agree on Evelyne Crochet! A hidden gem. Her Goldberg is pretty powerful too.
splendid
평균률의 정석을 연주했네요
참으로 아름답운 연주입니다
It is said that Gould was influenced by the performance of Rosalyn. You can understand that by listening to No.17. 1:21:50.
No.17を聞くとグールドがロサリンの影響を受けたのかなと思います。
Gould plays BWV859 th-cam.com/video/OEYFtFRypZw/w-d-xo.html
Thank you for uploading this. If only one could access the individual tracks separately.
In Book II she really hammers away at some of the pieces, quite uncharacteristically and in marked distinction to here DG recording from ca. 25 years earlier (see Fugue BWV 891). I wonder what made her adopt such a strident tone in some pieces. A new interpretive philosophy?
I know she influenced Gould's approach, despite his disavowal. What I'd be curious to know is whether he ever influenced her. If he did, I suspect it would lie in making her less "liturgical" as he put it. For me that means less self-effacing, more flamboyant. In other words, a negative influence. But I can only speculate.
"Self-effacing" is perhaps a bit misleading as a description of the subservience of her playing to the structure of the music; her mastery of touch, and the incomparable intimacy of her sound.
She remains my ideal Bach interpreter. Now if only someone would digitalize her A Bach Recital album from 1959, which is where my love affair with Rosalyn Tureck began so many years ago. That is has not been made available is scandalous.
sönke zürner Yes. I prefer her DG recordings. I find Ms Tureck being more genuine than Gould.
WOW !
Merci infiniment !
I think WTC is one of those pieces that can support many different interpretations. I like Tureck's version very much. I also like Schiff, Gould, and Joerg Demus.
Back then you could make of it what you desired. Her approach is very intelligent!
With her heart under her fingers all this preludes & fugues are an incredible rebirth, a new discovery for my ears. This wonderful woman had a superieur intelligence about what is polyphonic music, the most difficult music to play on piano, how many great pianistes play Bach at this high level ? Nicolayeva Lipatti Horowitz Richter Gould Schiff Argerich !..
Schiff can play it for sure. I heard him live and also from many recordings.
Horowitz? The only original Bach composition he ever played is the c minor Toccata - and it's perhaps his least convincing interpretation ever !
OMG!
33:44 💜
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Ébaubie je suis et sans mots.
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Tureck's performance is amongst the finest ever recorded. Criticisms of her technique, like those of Landowska's, simply miss the point. The work itself sustains itself through even a mediocre performance. It is transfigured in a great performance like Tureck's.
And that's why she was one of the few other pianists that Glenn Gould revered
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Holy Trinity of Bach's WTC: Gould - Richter - Tureck ...
tureck , richter
@@kyulee.zendoc GOULD, RICHTER AND TURECK ALL
Would not agree with that "Holy Trinity" of artists-Tatyana Nikolaeva's recording is also immortal. As is her recording Bach's Art of Fugue which is unparalleled.
I do not agree about Gould, Much of his playing, most of his playing is eccentric
My holy Trinity would be Edwin Fischer, Evelyn Crochet, and Samuil Feinberg.
No question Tureck is among the best. Check out the very eloquent Bach playing of Harriet Cohen, one of the first pianists to record substantial portions of WTC. Of the more recent versions I find Angela Hewitt's second traversal the most satisfying.
A Very different flavor to Bach piano without all the usual quick little ripples and twirls.
It may seem to some to be a bit stark and plane.
But to me its another flavor, beautiful in its purity.
1:56:05 Listening to the B minor Prelude - sounds like it could be used in one of his church cantatas or oratorios.
4:45 Cm prelude
1:21:50
Definitely one of the most convincing WTCs with Feinberg and Richter. The great differences in tempo and feeling in general are all tributes to Bach's genius for inspiring such great music.
1:17:16
Do you know if she ever played The Art of Fugue (totally or partially)? I find no mention of it and, having met her, I regret I did not ask her about it! Thank you.
I find her interpretations to be quite good but i don't agree with all the different tempos she uses. Personally i base my own preferences for listening as well as performing some of these pieces based on Evelyne Crochet's interpretations and tempos and prefer those. Also i can hear a mistake that was left in this recording on the #17 A flat prellude (as I play this one) and around 1:22:17 there is a minor issue with her rendition.. (I am not saying mistakes are absolutely terrible when performing, see ashkenazy in later years but for recordings it probably could have been fixed with another attempt or as I saw in glenn guild during his recordings that they had technology to fix things without glenn actually replaying the part, or they combined a part from another track he did and you couldn't tell the difference, not even gould could)...
11:10 Prelude IV
And Fugue...👌
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4:45 BWV 847
She plays Bach his way.
but he was a he. ;-)@SteppenWolff100
That was Landowska.
Wanda Landowska is really interesting. It's more of a heavy metal than Bach's performance itself. A musician who revived the forgotten musical instrument harpsichord in the 20th century. Already a past person, Jaccottet and Pichit lived in the same age as her. th-cam.com/video/egN29gohRY8/w-d-xo.html Fuga♥
She plays Bach _her_ way. Despite all the research into Baroque performance practice over the last 100 years, artists reach entirely differently conclusions as to how Bach’s music should be played. Truth is, we’ll never know. Pick somebody’s version that suits your taste, and hope that Bach would have enjoyed it, too.
😎🎹
@@tryharder8614 You play Bach your way. I play Bach his way. So say may great grand teacher Wanda Landowska !
45:44
47:00
따라올수없는위대함
this is Bach speed
She's playing the piano as if were a harpsichord. For Bach well-tempered klavier books, I like Richter.
Another great interpreter of Bach is tatiana Nikolayeva, Shostakovich admired Nikolayeva
Nikolayeva plays Shosty's own Preludes and Fugues - it's stellar!
I also love the way Nikolayeva plays Bach. Another one I like very much is Maria Yudina. I listen to a recording of her playing Prelude and Fugue #22 in B b minor, book I. Interestingly, Chopin's well-known prelude in E minor has a VERY similar vibe as this B b minor prelude. Listen to the two of them back-to-back. Not a surprise, since Chopin LOVED JSB, supposedly playing some every morning.
@@kenc6082 So glad you mentioned Yudina, both her and Nikolayeva get my vote.
6:10 Cm Fugue
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1:43:34
no 21
1:42.17
For me, the most satisfying piano version of the Well-Tempered Clavier is the recording by Evylene Crochet.
Here are links to both books:
Book 1:
th-cam.com/video/sFY9mj6m548/w-d-xo.html
Book 2:
th-cam.com/video/ju6xpqqVZU4/w-d-xo.html
I left detailed time stamps so you can instantly access each individual prelude or fugue.
A big part of the problem with this Tureck cycle is the horrible piano audio. The Crochet recording was made in 2000 and features excellent sound. You will love it. 😎🎹
Well-tempered on her mind
I never heard Tureck before this. Of course she had enough technique to do whatever she wanted interpretively. But some of the things she wanted to do are a little baffling.
For example, I don't understand the intrusion of angrily percussive, anti-vocal effects in the first fugue. It sounds like botched splicing.
The third prelude, a fabulous display of digital facility, brings Mendelssohn's 'Spinning Song' to mind. Was Bach anticipating a masterpiece of 19th-c. salon music, or was Tureck playing Bach in 19th-c. fashion? I was expecting something less obvious and conventional.
This recording is not representative. Tureck was the High Priestess of Bach, a master of touch. I think her best recordings are from the 1950s & 60s. Gould cited her as an influence and referred to the 'liturgical' quality of her playing.
The Toccata beginning at 10:25 gives a good indication of what she brought to the piano. Unfortunately, the 1959 LP is not available in digital form:
th-cam.com/video/tYOVkVfRtus/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=SERIOSOSERIOSO
Another desert-island interpretation from the same recording:
th-cam.com/video/4LJeN4QqYOU/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=JohannSebastian
th-cam.com/video/1nBKbfY3oRs/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=RosalynTureck-Topic
La scolaretta al compimento medio . . .
She's amazing! But I stay cold. Is she a very advanced computer? Bach was a hot man, you know!
Si, ma siamo sul ginnico...
I think it's in a very low temper
my best WTC. this album is problematic: WTC>all other music in the world. TURECK>all other bach piano player ever. SO it's always time trap to infinite loop.
Not knowing, I would have guessed it is a man playing
Wow this is bad... Tempo
OMG!