@@nysclips Most of these clips are from Degrassi:TNG which was on TeenNick. They couldn’t use strong language back then. In the last few seasons, the were finally allowed to say Bitch, Slut and Whore. I do agree that there were times where stronger language should have been used. According to Shane Kippel, the actor who played Spinner, the new Degrassi series that was supposed to come out this year was going to have a lot more mature themes.
@@quantasiumDegrassi has always been mature, since Junior High, what more mature can they do? Cursing doesn’t make something mature, it makes it rated higher
i couldn’t believe hunter during this storyline in general. like he literally saw his dad 1. throw a glass mug at HIM and then 2. hit his brother ??? like i don’t understand how he had zero empathy for miles. i mean wasnt he diagnosed with being a sociopath or something 💀
"Do you ever think that maybe you're the problem?" Words like that make my blood boil. You have no idea what it really feels like feeling as if you're the problem in everyone's lives.
I could write a dissertation about how that last clip is a peak Degrassi writing scene. It so perfectly introduces us to Miles, and his dynamic with his family & Winston.
Mile finds out his dad is cheating. After struggling to keep it a secret he tells his mom. Then his mom blows him off and tells him it's not his problem.
I mean the only reason miles younger siblings are seen as bad is because they won't admit to the abuse they're put through. They see the amount of verbal and physical abuse miles is the target of and the only way they know how to handle it is to pretend it isn't happening (they may not be aware of the full extent of it either as they aren't in every scene where Miles and his dad are together). In the end this is the family they were rasied in, in many cases they may not even see some of the things they and Miles go through as abuse. but instead as something they deserved or were at fault for.
miles is my favorite degrassi character (given i’ve only seen 11-14 of tng and next class but I know most spoilers) and I know the miles stans gonna be up in here so i wanted to share an opinion. so like i think his character is super complex given all this shit that was dumped on him. but like his dad abused him for example: this whole video so then he gets a weed addiction?? like that is the most unserious thing ever. like i just wish they made his storylines more intense. like i wouldn’t wish bad shit to happen to someone but like I feel as if he would have been an even better character. if they delved into him more. to sum up my thoughts: life gave him lemons. and degrassi made him aggressively squeeze the lemons. but imagine miles as a character if those lemons exploded?
I think they did do a good job of showing how serious his issues were! Like he had problems I just think it got lost in between the other storylines. For a while he had 0 friends and was just walking around depressed. He then later meets Esme and he develops a SERIOUS drug problem. Like at one point Esme was just giving him shit and he didn’t even know what the drugs were but he was so upset about his dad, he didn’t care. But you are right. I think they should have done a relapse story with him and went deeper into that storyline. It would have been really realistic. But Miles just sort gets better after his drug accident (where he was so high with Esme that he hit his head on the pavement). He changes for the better and grows but I suppose you are right, he had the potential to have a wayyy deeper storyline.
Next class does go into greater depth and (spoiler) gives him a a genuine drug addiction among a whole bunch of other stuff. The weed “addiction” was pretty funny though lol
I just finished watching every episode .... He is in my top ten favorite 1. Maya 2.Claire 3.Spinner 4.Miles 5.Tristen 6. JT 7. Ally 8. Adam 9. Ellie 10.Grace
Degrassi never really hit the mark with weed but as a person with sobriety issues that’s heavily dependent on smoking and not being sober, I actually really enjoyed Mile’s early addiction storyline (before Esme got him on pills) Like yeah, I really stopped caring about everything and stopped taking care of myself because I was constantly high and never wanted to be sober Maybe the only weed storyline I genuinely enjoy, besides the iconic line “wanna like… blaze?” 😂
i really wish he just packed and let them get them abuse and public humiliated because then maybe he won't need to be hard drugs. i get the mom was a victim but staying in the relationship because he's gonna be "president"
The father is so full of himself, abusing his own son, does not justifying as I'm learning to be a better father.,. As for the mom idealistic for so call perfect husband does not justify for the emotional, psychological, physical, spiritual, intelligent harmed that Miles is and has endure., Nor his siblings ideology for maintaining a perfect father, perfect family, against the existence of child abused.
I am so glad that I saw Life with Derek before I saw Degrassi. For instance, George is a pretty good father but needs to do a bit better. Miles on the other hand is a jackass, but he doesn't scare me due to George being friendly and calm most of the time.
I think Miles is sadly a clear example of when everyone around you is harmful. In my opinion that doesn't happen often and I feel his story was done naturally
Tristan didn’t mistreat him though… Was the biphobia okay? No but Tristan was a teen and it’s not shocking that a teen would think that made sense. Also Tristan was being used by Miles to some degree.
They should’ve included when he got Frankie pregnant, or when he had a party with underage drinking, that a girl got SA’d at. I bet that was his father’s fault too. Haha
No shade, bc I feel like it’s a me thing but: I feel like I watched a different show bc I was so shocked when I found out people liked Miles lol. I’ll have to watch again but I remember the whole time just feeling like there was way too much time spent in the Hollingsworth house.
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his mom trying to justify his dad for hitting him makes me so damn angry
I think that would make anybody angry.
@@jonathanmiller9235 well yeah 😭
The same makes my skin freaking crawl.
let miles say 'fuck'. he needs to get it out of his system
degrassi would've been way funnier sometimes if it had more cussing lol it definitely would've fit miles' personality
That “screw you” would’ve been FIRE if he could’ve said “fuck you” instead.
@@nysclips Most of these clips are from Degrassi:TNG which was on TeenNick. They couldn’t use strong language back then. In the last few seasons, the were finally allowed to say Bitch, Slut and Whore. I do agree that there were times where stronger language should have been used. According to Shane Kippel, the actor who played Spinner, the new Degrassi series that was supposed to come out this year was going to have a lot more mature themes.
@@quantasiumDegrassi has always been mature, since Junior High, what more mature can they do? Cursing doesn’t make something mature, it makes it rated higher
Can’t believe how his mom and Hunter acted when he tried to explain how his dad HIT him
i couldn’t believe hunter during this storyline in general. like he literally saw his dad 1. throw a glass mug at HIM
and then 2. hit his brother ???
like i don’t understand how he had zero
empathy for miles. i mean wasnt he diagnosed with being a sociopath or something 💀
@@corktreeluvr
Exactly, like that was so confusing
@@corktreeluvr I always imagined it was him being scared but it's not like they ever directly showed that happening
I hate his dad so much. He's abusive as hell and uses his son to make him look good.
The worst part of all he doesnt get punished at all as i recall it
They made it like nothing happened between them afterwards
No wonder all the three Hollingsworth children got issues, just look at their role models😭💀
That mug dodge was clean ngl
😂
Wasnt it!!😂😂
😂😂😂 omg
"you can't even decide if you like boys or girls."
and THAT'S why i hate tristan.
Honestly, I never really liked Tristan ever since he got skinny and they were introduced to Zoe.
"Do you ever think that maybe you're the problem?" Words like that make my blood boil. You have no idea what it really feels like feeling as if you're the problem in everyone's lives.
That’s definitely how abusive people work. They gaslight you until you believe it’s your fault.
Can we just discuss how beautifully made Miles character was? He’s definitely the gem of the last generation.
I could write a dissertation about how that last clip is a peak Degrassi writing scene. It so perfectly introduces us to Miles, and his dynamic with his family & Winston.
I can never not giggle seeing Hunter sitting cross legged next to the pool.
"tAKe tHe KeNDo STiCk" 💀💀💀
Mile finds out his dad is cheating. After struggling to keep it a secret he tells his mom. Then his mom blows him off and tells him it's not his problem.
He is my favorite Degrassi character I love him so much. Also one of the best bi representations in the media
miles is the only good Hollingsworth
Honestlyyyyyyy
Agreed
I mean Frankie is okay
@@CarolineStrunk-ld4ri in what world is Frankie okay? 😂
I mean the only reason miles younger siblings are seen as bad is because they won't admit to the abuse they're put through. They see the amount of verbal and physical abuse miles is the target of and the only way they know how to handle it is to pretend it isn't happening (they may not be aware of the full extent of it either as they aren't in every scene where Miles and his dad are together). In the end this is the family they were rasied in, in many cases they may not even see some of the things they and Miles go through as abuse. but instead as something they deserved or were at fault for.
As someone who recently cut off their whole family, I found this very triggering, but it validated my decision
I’m so sorry.
2:25 I’m pansexual and the biphobia is gross… but the way he delivered that line was crazyyyy
“You can’t even decide if you like boys or girls.” and THAT’S why i hate Tristan” ❤
Let's not forget how much Miles treated Tristian like shit. I think yall are blowing it out proportion.
Tristian is just confused.
Fiona and miles are two of my fav characters ever because i love rich kids with problems apparently 😭
the best type of character
Miles kissed Tristan?
Bro
Tristan kissed Miles
Exactly that made me sooo mad like Tristan he let you down easy and your mad??!?
his had is so abusive
How can he be so awesome as George Venturi and so trash as a Hollingsworth
The range of a good actor.
okay i need to rewatch for the 32nd time
do itttt
Miles deserved better
thats my son fr
miles is my favorite degrassi character (given i’ve only seen 11-14 of tng and next class but I know most spoilers)
and I know the miles stans gonna be up in here so i wanted to share an opinion.
so like i think his character is super complex given all this shit that was dumped on him.
but like his dad abused
him for example: this whole video so then he gets a weed addiction?? like that is the most unserious thing ever.
like i just wish they made his storylines more intense. like i wouldn’t wish bad shit to happen to someone but like I feel as if he would have been an even better character. if they delved into him more.
to sum up my thoughts:
life gave him lemons. and degrassi made him aggressively squeeze the lemons. but imagine miles as a character if those lemons exploded?
Imagine making him like the mixed version of Craig and Eli
I think they did do a good job of showing how serious his issues were! Like he had problems I just think it got lost in between the other storylines. For a while he had 0 friends and was just walking around depressed. He then later meets Esme and he develops a SERIOUS drug problem. Like at one point Esme was just giving him shit and he didn’t even know what the drugs were but he was so upset about his dad, he didn’t care. But you are right. I think they should have done a relapse story with him and went deeper into that storyline. It would have been really realistic. But Miles just sort gets better after his drug accident (where he was so high with Esme that he hit his head on the pavement). He changes for the better and grows but I suppose you are right, he had the potential to have a wayyy deeper storyline.
Next class does go into greater depth and (spoiler) gives him a a genuine drug addiction among a whole bunch of other stuff. The weed “addiction” was pretty funny though lol
I just finished watching every episode .... He is in my top ten favorite
1. Maya
2.Claire
3.Spinner
4.Miles
5.Tristen
6. JT
7. Ally
8. Adam
9. Ellie
10.Grace
god i forgot how much i HATE his dad >:(
Degrassi never really hit the mark with weed but as a person with sobriety issues that’s heavily dependent on smoking and not being sober, I actually really enjoyed Mile’s early addiction storyline (before Esme got him on pills)
Like yeah, I really stopped caring about everything and stopped taking care of myself because I was constantly high and never wanted to be sober
Maybe the only weed storyline I genuinely enjoy, besides the iconic line “wanna like… blaze?” 😂
yea I was miles for a good two years in high school especially with a father like his
I related to Miles so much as a teenager. He got me into bisexual guys, too, lol, I am bisexual too.
i really wish he just packed and let them get them abuse and public humiliated because then maybe he won't need to be hard drugs. i get the mom was a victim but staying in the relationship because he's gonna be "president"
Poor miles
This socks how he gets treated
Ben Daryena
I really really see next class in a little bit of season 4 of degrassi but miles is amazing
The father is so full of himself, abusing his own son, does not justifying as I'm learning to be a better father.,.
As for the mom idealistic for so call perfect husband does not justify for the emotional, psychological, physical, spiritual, intelligent harmed that Miles is and has endure.,
Nor his siblings ideology for maintaining a perfect father, perfect family, against the existence of child abused.
I am so glad that I saw Life with Derek before I saw Degrassi. For instance, George is a pretty good father but needs to do a bit better. Miles on the other hand is a jackass, but he doesn't scare me due to George being friendly and calm most of the time.
I think Miles is sadly a clear example of when everyone around you is harmful. In my opinion that doesn't happen often and I feel his story was done naturally
miles and his dad remind me of nathan scott and dan scott from one tree hill
definitely
Is that the dad from life with Derek?
Yes. That's John Ralston. Funny because he and the mom from 'Life with Derek' both played rich parents on this show.
Tristan didn’t mistreat him though…
Was the biphobia okay? No but Tristan was a teen and it’s not shocking that a teen would think that made sense. Also Tristan was being used by Miles to some degree.
This is just ppl being mean to miles. I understand why Tristan said what he said in that scene tho.
Miles is good 👍
"Try harder"
They should’ve included when he got Frankie pregnant, or when he had a party with underage drinking, that a girl got SA’d at. I bet that was his father’s fault too. Haha
No shade, bc I feel like it’s a me thing but: I feel like I watched a different show bc I was so shocked when I found out people liked Miles lol. I’ll have to watch again but I remember the whole time just feeling like there was way too much time spent in the Hollingsworth house.
God I hated this era of Degrassi
Question about the renlaitionship of town
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I hate everything about all the characters