Ep. #36 Tyros 4: Connecting the MFC-10 Foot Controller

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  • @petervad
    @petervad 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    wonderful clear, logical, patient, step-by-step explanation of a complex machine - thank you so much!

  • @MegaBernie2010
    @MegaBernie2010 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    and will you make a video on how to on how to program these pedal with Korg pa4x especially the multipads

  • @rolfjohansen5376
    @rolfjohansen5376 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    MIDI is 8 bit, however the vid is extremely helpful

    • @Thejohnnyoshow
      @Thejohnnyoshow  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      in my mind i was thinking 7 bit because all the values i paid attention to only have 128 assignable values which is 7 bit instead of 256 values with 8 bit. i was not aware there were other values that used more than 128 until you pointed this out and i did some more research. thanks.

    • @Thejohnnyoshow
      @Thejohnnyoshow  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      finally found it, so 1 bit is use to identify that the remaining 7 bits are used for. there it is :-)

  • @SuperBlueturtles
    @SuperBlueturtles 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Any possibility of you doing a tutorial for connecting to Genos as there isn't a dedicated page as on Tyros?

    • @Thejohnnyoshow
      @Thejohnnyoshow  6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Unfortunately i do not have the genos yet so i have no way to try it out. Im sorry

  • @nathg1784
    @nathg1784 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    a interesting video, great job bro

  • @jackiemurgatroyd1148
    @jackiemurgatroyd1148 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If you own an iPad you can do all this and it won't cost you a penny.
    Plus you can send much more than 30 midi messages. You can label each programmed button so you know exactly what it does
    Just put the iPad on your music rest or if that's being used buy a stand to put next to you.

    • @Recommendable
      @Recommendable 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I assume that ipad app to be used with Yamahas got some name?

  • @xdfreaky9340
    @xdfreaky9340 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    How do you save it. I restarted the tyros and pedal board, and all the programmene was set back to standard

  • @john-moes
    @john-moes 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you very much for the clear explanations and the credited text above.
    best regards,
    John.

    • @Thejohnnyoshow
      @Thejohnnyoshow  10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Glad you found it useful. When i got mine, the instructions though simple still were confusing me because I was trying to understand how the MFC knew how to actually make the changes on the tyros, Once I figured out the Tyros was setting up each button as a midi note it became more clear. I figured I was not the only one confused about this based on many forum posts that I read so hoped this video might be helpful to some. Glad you could use it

  • @rj9959
    @rj9959 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Will this be able to control a Casio CTK6000? My keyboard has midi, but only a USB B jack for midi. I'm looking for something similar to the Keith McMillen 12 step that can play chords with my feet while I play bass guitar.

    • @Thejohnnyoshow
      @Thejohnnyoshow  8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      This would not be a good fit for this, you should get a foot peddle controller that's designed for playing notes I tried using this for just playing notes and its just not laid out right. and the buttons are just to stiff to really use for that kind of playing, Also watch this guys video th-cam.com/video/gTu6soq2j_k/w-d-xo.html You need to get a midi host box which will make your usb b midi connection connect to 5 pin din midi and he explains that in his video

  • @lanphanh
    @lanphanh ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Does anyone know how to set the MFC-10 Foot Controller with the Yamaha Genos? Also does it controller work with the PSR-SX900? Does anyone have the instruction to setup with those arranger?
    Thanks in advance!

    • @Thejohnnyoshow
      @Thejohnnyoshow  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Looks like the genos can
      th-cam.com/video/7Xr-_YYRneg/w-d-xo.html
      th-cam.com/video/d3dqr9rhVW4/w-d-xo.html

  • @Chesili
    @Chesili 9 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Excellent video! Do you know if I can use this FC to switch voices in Yamaha MX61, it has MIDI plugs... I don't want to make such a big expense just to realize it won't work.
    Thanks for the video, I have a very good idea of the controller now.

    • @Thejohnnyoshow
      @Thejohnnyoshow  9 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Iris Charles Yes, but it will not have an easy setup like it does on the tyros, you will have to do some setup on the MFC10 manually, but once its all configured it will do what you want just fine. If there is a Guitar Center near by they have a good return policy if you don't like it, I am not sure what their policy is for mail order but if you buy it from the store directly you have like 45 days to try it out.

    • @nishantnair5310
      @nishantnair5310 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      +Iris Charles Hi, i too have a an MX61 mainly for live gig purposes. If you have gone forth and bought this foot controller (or any other) i would like to know if it is that helpful, as i myself am looking for something similar. Thank you.

    • @Chesili
      @Chesili 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Nishant Nair I bought the controller in sweetwater because of their return policy! But after many messages with Yamaha Support, we figured out that the controller won't work to change the Parts in a Performance. You can program it to change the voice when you you are not in Performance mode, or you can call a Performance, but no the parts on it.
      Here is my disccution with Yamaha: yamahasynth.com/index.php?option=com_easydiscuss&view=post&id=2280&Itemid=851
      Anyway! If you ever find out a way to do this, pleasee! Let me know.
      Regards!

    • @nishantnair5310
      @nishantnair5310 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Sure, thanks a lot.

  • @MegaBernie2010
    @MegaBernie2010 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    can I these pedal be use on Korg pa4x???

  • @tomallonsmusicalcreation1111
    @tomallonsmusicalcreation1111 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi I wish u could how can we do it manually ... Changin all buttons to midi keys ... I just wish

  • @CrazyCST
    @CrazyCST 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    im trying to connect the controller to my pc and use it for my guitar. my uncle did it and I got this pedal from my uncle and had used it while at his house so I know it works. one issue, I cant get it to work.

  • @armusic4282
    @armusic4282 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Would this work on the Behringer FCB1010 also?

    • @Thejohnnyoshow
      @Thejohnnyoshow  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The tyros has an auto config for the MFC that sets each button to a midi note. once that is done then you just say way notes do what on the tyros (from inside the tyros) the FCB1010 however can not be auto configured. so you will need to configured each button to a note manually (from inside the FCB),. once you do that then it should work. there are several videos about configuring the FCB. as long as you can make the buttons = a midi notes it will work. but out of the box it will not work with the tyros

    • @armusic4282
      @armusic4282 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Thejohnnyoshow It still makes life a lot easier, so thanks! Also, does Tyros have 0-127 or 1-128? And I assume the Genos should have the same auto config option that Tyros does?

  • @michip2161
    @michip2161 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi, awesome tutorial, i want to use my mfc10 with my Boss gx-700 (guitar fx processor) and it works fine at changing banks (presets) if i push the switch 2 my Boss load the bank 2, etc... But I need to use it in "manual mode (turning on/off stompboxes in the same bank)" I've read that it's posible but I just can't make it work... The only thing I manage to assign is the expression pedal (Cc#007) I've assigned it all kind of effects without leaving the same bank, but I don't know how to assign any of the switches to act like an IA (on/off effect button) Could you please help me? Thanks a lot!

    • @Thejohnnyoshow
      @Thejohnnyoshow  9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Sorry I have not got back to you on this. We have a family member in the hospital and I have been a bit distracted. I will try to respond to your question sometime this week end. Again sorry for the delay

    • @Thejohnnyoshow
      @Thejohnnyoshow  9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Just to making sure I understand what you're asking for, are you referring to Switching the bi-pass on and off as mentioned on page 13 of the gx-700 manual www.manualslib.com/manual/695586/Boss-Gx-700.html?page=13#manual
      or Effects on and off Page 19 www.manualslib.com/manual/695586/Boss-Gx-700.html?page=19#manual I assume you are referring to page 19
      the problem I have is I really need to see the chart they are referring to on page 60 www.manualslib.com/manual/695586/Boss-Gx-700.html?page=60#manual for the GX-700 It says one can be ordered from Roland, Do you have a copy of the chart for the BOSS, I googled but could not find one.

  • @gilesshingler4221
    @gilesshingler4221 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    THESE ARE SOME RECORDINGS I MADE WITH MFC10, QUADRAVERB GT AND DX100 www.giless.co.uk/musicinputs.php?number=MIDIfootpedal

  • @midhatsmajlovic52
    @midhatsmajlovic52 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi! I have psr9000 and mfc10 foot controller,but when I do connection and pres next always i am getting message...Problem! Make sure the cables are connected and mfc10' power is on then press next.I did all parts setup but still getting same mesage. Please can you help me about this problem...thank you in advance.

    • @Thejohnnyoshow
      @Thejohnnyoshow  10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The psr9000 is a bit different, In my instructions on the Tyros and in the video you will see where I set it to channel 16, you will want to set it to channel 1 for the psr9000, also make sure you have the midi OUT on the keyboard going to midi in on the MFC to set it up. In the manual it makes a point of mentioning having both cables connected, It looks like the PSR works very differently then the Tyros, in the fact that you send different templates to the MFC if you want it to do different things. On the Tyros It only needs to send the 1 template and the Tyros conforms to that template, But the manual for the PSR makes it seem to me as if it has to program the MFC if you want to change what it does by selecting a new template on the PSR and sending that to the MFC. So i would suggest making sure you have both cables connected for easy of use. 1 from midi in on the MFC to midi out on the PSR and 1 from midi out on the MFC to midi in on the PSR. So that you can do this easily when ever you want.
      I have never used a PSR, I have only owned in the pass a Yamaha W7, MO6 and now the Tyros 4. So the info i just gave you could be incorrect, but that's what i am taking away from what I just read in the PSR 9000 manual

  • @johnelig7723
    @johnelig7723 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    great video, question, is there a way to program the controller to change the auto accompaniment on the Yamaha (i.e. I play sax and want to change chords with my foot, etc..) and have different sets of chord progressions available? i.e. 10 different songs with different chords, etc..does that make sense? any advise is greatly appreciated!

  • @ysindgo
    @ysindgo 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    How can I setup the function on my tryros 3 tia

  • @maul6117
    @maul6117 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    nice tutorial, how would you do this with a "non-yamaha" keyboard such as the Korg Kronos? also your voice reminds me of Norm McDonald.

    • @Thejohnnyoshow
      @Thejohnnyoshow  9 ปีที่แล้ว

      the MFC-10 is completely configurable with out using a Tyros, you can assign each of the buttons on it to do pretty much anything, you can even have a button trigger more then 1 event. But it will require you to have more then a basic understanding of MIDI. I did look to see if there were any foot switches that would have any kind of auto setup with the Korg like the Tyros offers for the MFC-10 and I did not find anything. I did find this korgaseries.org/pdf/fc6manual.pdf but I really do not get the impression it would do anything close to what the MFC-10 is able to do www2.yamaha.co.jp/manual/pdf/emi/english/synth/MFC10E.pdf. Now I went with the MFC-10 because it's easy to config on the Tyros, But you may want to check out the Behringer FBC1010, this foot switch looks really sweet www.behringer.com/assets/FCB1010_P0089_M_EN.pdf and there is a LOT of tutorials on how to configure the FCB1010 where as not so much for the MFC-10, So you may want to check them out th-cam.com/users/results?search_query=behringer+fbc1010+how+to

    • @maul6117
      @maul6117 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The Johnny O Show i appreciate the fast reply and the great info. i've done some research myself, and from what i understand the Behringer FBC1010 isn't powerful enough to handle what i need it to do with it (without modding it). which is why i was asking about the MFC-10; though i may have over looked something. Back to the forums i suppose.

    • @Thejohnnyoshow
      @Thejohnnyoshow  9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      m lu I agree the MFC-10 is very powerful, and honestly i can't think of anything it would not be able to do. But when i first got it and started going though the manual my eyes started to roll back in my head. I prefer videos as my means to learning stuff, and I found very little for the MFC-10, I was so relieve when I realized the Tyros could set it up for me. Because I was really not wanting to spend 40 hours setting everything. (that could be an exaggeration)
      Now if you are already well versed in MIDI SysEx then i'm sure it will be much quicker for you. I just felt I should mention the FBC1010 just because of the fact there is a lot more community support out there for it, and well frankly I like the foot pedal layout on it better. But you are correct the MFC-10 can be set up to do some pretty elaborate things but I just wanted you to be aware of the effort involved to get it there and to know all your options.

    • @Thejohnnyoshow
      @Thejohnnyoshow  9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      m lu I did just find this, You may have already seen it but perhaps it will be of some use to you karma-lab.wikidot.com/korg-m3:footswitch-for-karma-scenes

  • @rayaddison2099
    @rayaddison2099 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Can I use a Yamaha FC7 volume pedal with my Yamaha Tyros 4

    • @Thejohnnyoshow
      @Thejohnnyoshow  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes the FC7 will work with the tyros 4

    • @rayaddison2099
      @rayaddison2099 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Thejohnnyoshow Thank you !

    • @Thejohnnyoshow
      @Thejohnnyoshow  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@rayaddison2099 I’m happy to help

  • @midhatsmajlovic52
    @midhatsmajlovic52 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    I did both ways do not work still same message.looks like something is not setup properly but I don't know what. Do you know how to setup midi channel on keyboard for mfc10,says in manual to setup but no explanation.

    • @Thejohnnyoshow
      @Thejohnnyoshow  10 ปีที่แล้ว

      let me research it. You do have the MFC on channel 1 right?

    • @Thejohnnyoshow
      @Thejohnnyoshow  10 ปีที่แล้ว

      i forgot to mention make sure your using the midi-b terminals.

    • @Thejohnnyoshow
      @Thejohnnyoshow  10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I find that you are not missing any steps. did you make sure to set the switches on the back of the MFC like I have in the instructions for the Tyros. those are the same
      Make sure that the switches on the back of the MFC10 are set to 'Normal' and 'MIDI'.

    • @Thejohnnyoshow
      @Thejohnnyoshow  10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      if still no luck, try reseting the MFC to factory defaults and starting over. Here are the instructions for that
      faq.yamaha.com/us/en/article/index/id/2366/?search_query=mfc¤t_page_id=1

  • @arturmonteiro9460
    @arturmonteiro9460 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi! Send you the congratulations for the excellent work it has helped a lot. I'm coming here by ask you if you can help me in the following:
    I have a tyros 4 and one P 35 (yamaha digital piano) and want to connect them, so that:
    1. All functions as a single keyboard but with the sounds of the tyros.
    2. With the possibility of using the "split points" as if we had only a single-keyboard.
    advance grateful for the attention
    greatings

    • @Thejohnnyoshow
      @Thejohnnyoshow  9 ปีที่แล้ว

      Please keep in mind I have not attempted this yet, So I am giving you information based on my knowledge of midi, the manual and what i have see the keyboard do, But I have not exactly ever connected a second keyboard to the Tyros to try this. But this is how I think it should work. If not let me know I can just try using my MFC-10 as a keyboard and see what happens when I get back home.
      So this is how it should work....
      Plug the p35 Midi out to MIDI A in on the tyros (the default transmit channel on the p35 is 1, refer to page 14 and 15 of the p35 manual)
      If you want to be able to use the FULL range of both keyboards to play 2 different sounds from the tyros, do this...
      because the default on the tyros is to route MIDI A 1 to the song channel 1, you just go to you're "Mixing" console and you can change the voice for channel 1. and when you play the p35 keyboard you will here that voice
      If you really want to use the split points then do this
      Now on the Tyros 4 push "function" and then "H" for midi.
      All Parts will be selected press "8 DOWN" to edit. now go to the "Receive" tab (refer to page 128 in tyros manual) you will see the very first row is for MIDI A/USB 1/CH 1. and right now the PART is assigned to song, we want to change the part to one of these "LEFT" "RIGHT1" "RIGHT2" or "RIGHT3" (i would recommend using LEFT or RIGHT 3), now you can control the split point like normal going to "FUNCTION" and pressing "C" and going to the split point tab (page 38).

    • @arturmonteiro9460
      @arturmonteiro9460 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      The Johnny O Show
      Thank you, I've tried and it worked.
      For what I do is enough.
      As I am also interested in working with a pedal, but at the moment only need it to change the registration memory buttons, I want to ask you, if there is some other cheaper pedal to the tyros 4 without being MFC10?
      greatings

    • @Thejohnnyoshow
      @Thejohnnyoshow  9 ปีที่แล้ว

      Artur Monteiro this will do nicely, You will set up the sequence order of the registry and assign it to go up by the press of a foot pedal, and then use this pedal
      www.musiciansfriend.com/accessories/yamaha-fc5-sustain-footswitch?pfm=sp#productDetail

    • @arturmonteiro9460
      @arturmonteiro9460 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      The Johnny O Show
      Ok, thank you.
      Now i must to check out, wich pedal is compatible with tyros 4 for this purpose.
      greatings

    • @Thejohnnyoshow
      @Thejohnnyoshow  9 ปีที่แล้ว

      the link I gave you is one that will work. Here it is again just incase you missed it. Its a Yamaha FC5 Sustain Footswitch
      www.musiciansfriend.com/accessories/yamaha-fc5-sustain-footswitch?pfm=sp#productDetail

  • @sushipop9448
    @sushipop9448 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    nice. so its now plugged in and ........................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................