I was a flight attendant on her flight from Raleigh, NC, where she was filming to Atlanta to transfer to her flight to LAX just before her death. She was so charming, and sweet. She was much more petite than I would have imagined. She signed a soldiers leg cast without being asked. I was so devastated watching the news of her drowning a week or so later. I'll always remember her wonderful smile.
I met Mary Badham who played her younger sister Willie in This Property is Condemned, and she spoke very highly of her. She seemed like a really nice lady.
That's what needs to be remembered. All the tabloid stuff about her death is sickening. And blaming Hollywood. The whole country would have the sins everyone says Hollywood does. Divorce, cheating, money , etc. It's in our lives.
She couldn’t swim and she had a phobia of water. The entire case was shaky from the start I really hope they find out the truth eventually Give Natalie the justice she deserves.
@@Oldclimber1 She probably went to make her husband happy. I've heard many times she was afraid of water because she came close to drowning on set when she was a kid. I myself can't swim and I'm scared of water because my bro in-law threw me in. I passed out from fear. I've been on several boats since but I'm really careful and wear a life vest.
@@omargoodnesssake Why should they ? Back in those days, outside of the Hollywood movies, husband and wife arguments were assumed to be "normal". Its only recently that a husband arguing with a wanton wife, which she was, is guilty of anything that anyone could think up.
Possibly. It does seem strange that after this many years it's still all hearsay. Also, a one-time payment of $$ wouldn't bury this forever and couldn't prevent more investigating of a story that had been such a national sensation for so long. I mean, can you imagine what a career-maker a conviction on this case would be? Cases like this mint detectives.
@Mitch Swanson there are very many people on the planet who are holding in their previous indiscretions and for them to take them to the Grave will not hold up well for them in the afterlife... and Mister Wagner is the only one who knows the truth... I hope you yourself rest peacefully once you are done with this place
@@jesussaves7973 I hope you are correct, but the Catholics (I am a recovered Catholic turned Religious Skeptic) believe he could ask for and receive God Almighty's forgiveness :(
Good for Lana!!! Never give up. We, the fans of Natalie, want justice for Natalie and we know Wagner was involved more than he has ever said. Walken knows what happened.
Cautionary tale.....Try and find something to counterbalance the darkness, otherwise it will take you away from the person you are meant to be and dim your own light. ❣
This has been rumored for years regarding Wagner's role in his wife's death. As far as Kirk Douglas goes, he was also linked to the disappearance of another Hollywood actress who was not famous yet. Her name was Jean Spangler. She vanished on October 7th 1949. There was talk that she was romantically involved with Douglas on the set of a movie where she was an extra. Ms. Spangler became pregnant after a brief affair with a "big Hollywood" star. She was last seen leaving her home on 10/7/49, never to be seen again. The only item recovered of hers, was a pocketbook with the straps broken off in a park miles from her home. In the purse, there was a note that read "Kirk, Can't wait any longer. Going to see Dr. Scott. It will work better this way while Mother is away." After her disappearance was announced in the press, Douglas randomly called the LA police department stating: "This is Kirk Douglas, I had nothing to do with Ms. Spangler's disappearance." Spangler's mother recalled that Douglas had picked her daughter up several times from their home. When LAPD looked for a Dr. Scott, he was located, but denied that Spangler was one of his patients. Ms. Spangler was 3 months pregnant and it is believed that she was seeking to terminate the pregnancy. Abortion was illegal in 1949, so it's plausible that Dr. Scott just denied knowing her. There are other explanations for what happened to Ms. Spangler. She could have underwent an illegal abortion and died. Being that it was against the law, she could have been "disposed" of for fear of the legal ramifications. OR, Douglas killed her because he was married at the time and didn't want this "bad press" to get out. In any event, both cases are tragic. RIP to all involved.
There is One Law. It is written as the Ten Commandments. Laws of man change, God’s law is eternal. And we shall all be judged by it. Many women die in abortions, ALL babies do, the doctors leave the ones born to die if the abortion does not kill them. Sad. Condoms were available in the 40’s. So was the rhythm method, and abstinence has always been available. NOW there are the same and many others as well, including a vasectomy!
Kirk Douglas stated in his first autobiography that he had inappropriate sexual contact with young girls, and even wrote, "I think I should have been in jail". He bragged about using sex to punish an anti-Semitic woman, referred to a 12-year-old girl as "sexy" (cue projectile vomit), and basically treated females like sex objects. Even an actress who was a friend of his said you couldn't sit next to him without him putting his hand on your leg.
It’s obvious what happened, shame he had a full free life while Natalie didn’t! And I totally believe the Kirk D part, we’re totally finding out just how dark “Hollywood” really was/is! RIP Natalie 🕊
Jean Spangler upcoming actress golden era. Went missing to this day not found. Left her house, car found, handbag with broken strap on a path I think. Inside a note to a Kirk. She had appeared in one of his movie's previous. Supposed she was pregnant, maybe botched abortion? Speculation was he was the father. Statements made, other ppl on set. His treatment of women came up more often than not in what I've read. Tarnishing character for some, is more important than ruining, taking someone's life to maintain power. Hollywood and otherwise. Totally believe Natalie.
Yes, I was told more about this case, because I worked somewhere close to the Yacht Club. But, I'm not at liberty to tell, because it'd hurt the Wagner estate.
It's so funny when someone uses somebody's death as karma,I mean we all die so i guess in the end we all get the same karma. I don't believe in karma or else why are so many of these super rich and powerful pedophiles and just nasty people have such long and successful lives. The truth is in life good and bad things happen to you. I also dont believe in an afterlife or heaven or hell. Just fantasy talk in my opinion. Ps: Natalie was definitely murdered and I believe that mainly due to the so called captain that was there who finally got the balls to tell the truth decades later 😂😂.
Wagner is still married to Jill St. John. I am sure she knows the truth, yet they are still together after many, many years. That’s the big mystery to me.
@@dabprod Of course Wagner would deny it to Jill. I never expected him to tell the truth, but she knows the facts and can figure it out for herself. No doubt, she’s in denial.
I have always heard the same story wherein people opine that Natalie Wood walked in on Wagner and Walken in a compromising situation, and she went off! It got her murdered.
@@SixMiracles-uj1zp She should have never remarried Wagner. Their first marriage ended in divorce because Natalie caught him in bed with a man and freaked out. All the tabloids blamed her having an affair with her co-star Warren Beatty for the demise of the marriage. Natalie let people think that because it would have caused a scandal at that time, and ruined both her career and Wagner's if word got out he liked men. One biographer stated she was warned by some friends not to marry Wagner, the first time because he was known to hang out with Hollywood gay actors.
Most people thought Walken stayed silent just to save his career. No way does a woman leave a boat in the dead of night barely dressed unless she's in a desper ate situation! RIP Natalie, your fans pray for justice!!
@@trishaann1616 I don't know, I wasn't there. but GOD was... & he won't get bought out with no amount of money in the world. The LORD will judge accordingly, based on what he witnessed..💦
@@francessimmonds5784 your right Frances I don't know what complex circumstances, I'm only human, this is why i edited & took that part out, but God doesn't make mistakes & he has no need to edit anything out. he is going to take care of what really happened.
I wasn't even talking about a lawsuit. I just mentioned the fact that several people (according to articles) have said they knew that Kirk Douglas assaulted her.
@@geoffreyfoster8039 if it was a accident then he would of said so. He would of gotten off. But I stead he's lied all these yrs God will handle him in due time
@@KindCountsDeb3773 Witnesses are more than rumors. You're trying to say a man having an intense argument with his wife, right before she turns up dead, means nothing?
@@kennethrussell1158 I heard a rumor that it was not Natalie and Christopher sneaking around but RJ and Christopher sneaking around! It was suggested that Natalie caught them and had to be silenced!
Walken spoke with the detectives in charge of the re-opened investigation and is not a suspect. He corroborated the account of the boat captain, Dennis Davern.
All we know is what the captain said and he was the one handing out drugs along with booze!! He's a very suspicious character. Plus Robert told only the parts he wanted known. He probably didn't know for sure how she ended up with that dinghy.
The one who had the most to say was the boat captain. Not sure if he is still around now. I still feel to this day, Wagner got away with murder. He was jealous of Natalie’s “relationship” with Walkin, too.
Robert Wagner pulled-up next to my twin sister and I in Griffith Park, at a marathon my sister was running in (for NBC) and he shook her hand. He reached over to shake my hand, when she introduced me, but I refused to shake his hand and folded my hands behind my back, standing next to him, sitting on the golf cart. He said "why don't you want to shake my hand?" staring me in the face and instinctively I said "Because, I believe you killed Natalie Wood. Your vibes are very evil." And I walked away with my sister. 😢
@@katiekidman9933 Bravo!! To have said that to him takes great courage and bravery. Well done Katie. I have great respect for you and what you did. Thank you on behalf of us all including myself, who don't believe his version of events on that dreadful night. 💐
Natallie Wood's death and her being assaulted years earlier are two separate issues, so as far as Justice for her goes, I hope Divine Justice prevails, because human justice ain't worth a hoot.
@@gleeberger8966 one need not judge when they saw the witness testimony of a woman yelling for help for hours & hearing the testimony of others. “$ talks & famous people with it, walk.”
@@gleeberger8966 so why are telling not judge if you are judging the ones who judging also? You may have liked Natalie wood as an actress , but we really don't know her person life, we only go by what are told. Saying we are not judge lest we be judge means we are not to say untrue about things about others. We can say things about what we know. It is not really judging.
@@shellyblanchard5788 God is the only Rightous judge... He is the only one that knows what happened. And you are not Natalie's attorney! I loved Natalie Wood, and if there was any foul play, God will serve justice in the end.
@@gleeberger8966 Yes you are right, I am not her attorney. I am just giving my opinion to. i thought that was reason why you got upset. Yes God is only only one who know what during that time. i think she was on that movie with Chirtopher Walking in that movie brain storm. I am not making any accusations, but we don't know their lives behind the camera. Yes she was good actress.
My mother has always said that Wagner did it and when I heard the facts years ago, I agreed. It made me sick to see his face. And as someone in an earlier comment said, Christopher Walkins should have said something. Not surprised to hear about Kirk Douglass being an abuser. Ugggh!
@@peterpiper482 Mummy is obviously smarter than you. She 🤔thinks..and, I think Mummy is right. Wagner is a pompous, chauvinist. He got away with it. Maybe you are one of Bobbie's cousins?
Both Kirk and Natalie 2nd generation from Russia. Kirk might have been born there. Old world mentality about women + Hollywood misogyny. Robert Wagner was a drinker. I’m sure a lot of alcohol was flowing. Always increases risk of domestic violence.
I remember my grandmother telling me about this. I always thought everything sounded sketchy. Hope the truth comes out so that Wood's remaining family can have closure since it seems justice has taken too long to punish the guilty.
@@lorimiller4301 what a horrible, baseless thing to say. Her kids adored them both. And, they believe him and are close to him. It's only Lana that is making a stir. But , that's been her attitude through out their being sisters, with Natalie being the most famous.
I've always thought there was some Hollywood cloak of silence over this, that agreements were made not to ruin a couple of careers. I bet that boat captain had his life threatened.
The captain said he gave everyone a pill of some sort to calm everyone down. On top of booze? He should be in jail for that. No wonder he keeps saying RW did it. Married people fight bd it can get messy with the wife just leaving in a car or in this case she got into the dinghy. The sister can't believe it because Natalie was scared of water. But Nat was plastered and people get reckless when drunk. RJ drunk too. There didn't have to be murdererous intent for a death to happen that night. I think RJ was totally not in his right mind and went back to bed thinking she'd come back. Dumb very dumb. That whole boatload of people was to blame actually.
So let's see, according to Jim; Robert Wagner (allegedly) kills his wife, then calls "Hollywood" (whomever that is) and "Hollywood" sits down with him, and Walken and Wagner tells them he killed her. They then all agree to not tell anyone..because the people who make up "Hollywood" are cold callous beings with no moral compass who don't care if anyone-even one of their own is killed, and they'll commit a crime to keep a secret? Is this the stupid bullshit you believe and are trying to disemate? Sorry to know that a fellow artist (you) are so ignorant and anti "Hollywood," not to mention a billion times wrong
I remember watching this and my Mom saying that she felt like Natalie was killed by her husband! My condolences and prayers for y'all! May she Rest in peace
They divorced the first time because she caught her husband, who was bisexual, with the butler. The rumor is she caught him with Christopher Walken and threatened to tell the public. Don't threaten men. It could go wrong for you
Not true. He remarried eight YEARS later. He did start dating Jill St. John three months later, which is not at all unusual for widowers; there's even an old saying: "Widows grieve; widowers replace."
I always felt that Wagner had something to do with it based on what witnesses said happened between them on that night. They were fighting and it got out of hand. Her sister said she was knocked unconscious and pushed in the water but according to the documentary people said they could hear her screaming for help and they believe she was in the water for quite sometime. I think it’s telling that Michael Douglas didn’t defend his father. He just said may he Rest In Peace.
Well we all now know that Spartacus was a POS. As far as Wagner goes.... the autopsy showed no lacerations or blows to the head so Natalie was not knocked out. Wagner may have dumped her over the side and untied the diggy to make her try to crawl back into it. When she was unable to get into it she remained in the water crying for help. Burses to her legs are consistent with an attempt to get into the hard canvass raft like diggy. Since she could not swim she eventually drowned. That is what I think happened. Wagner claims she untied the diggy herself and then probably fell out when she tried to pull start the motor,. In either event he knew she was in the water and could not swim and left her there . Definitely a criminal act here. But as we all now know there is no real justice in the USA. It is a two tiered system where the rich, powerful or well connected can get away with murder. America has declined in her values since the Creation of the Federal Reserve that is a Privately owned central bank in 1913. That bank has the exclusive right to create currency and loans it to the Govt of the USA with interest attached, The Private FED has been the real govt of the nation and its corruption rolls down hill everywhere.
@@frankgraham1996 Yes either way you slice it I think he caused her death. There’s no way that he or anyone on that boat didn’t know that she was in the water.
Yeah me too. But from what I read they were all totally drunk … you know bad-off drunk …. way beyond buzzed. When alcohol abuse is involved so many bad things accompany it.
@@lblough9881 nobody will want to have the memory of them marred. I doubt it if he had anything to do with it that he will confess. It’s just too bad because I grew up admiring Robert Wagner as a child. Of course as an adult watching documentaries about Natalie‘s death I felt suspicions.
I remember when this all happened because I used to go to Catalina Island regularly. I got into night photography on the island because it was a great place with minimal light too. Heck, you could walk 5mins out of Avalon and be in pitch black surroundings. I'm talkin', can't see your hand in front of your face. I also remember standing around the old casino taking pics, you could hear people talkin' on their boats in Avalon Bay. Being in total darkness for night pics, you could see and hear everything. I remember watching Brainstorm and hearing all the whispers surrounding Natalie and Chris. The irony being what the movie was about and then this happening.
Brainstorm is a movie? I’ll have to check it out. Really interesting piece of experience you shared, thanks. I think people kept quiet initially for one reason, then kept quiet for their own reputation
@@lolawants2008 I think 3 men need to spit it out as they're the ones that have answers and they know it🤬. Natalie had an affair with Warren Beatty while filming a movie way back when then rumors flew about another affair with another co-star(Chris) who just happened to be on the boat the night she died. Coincidence or planned? I don't think anyone ever asked that particular question before. I think more of the latter was the reason all 3 ended up on that ship that night and I find it extremely odd someone who was deathly afraid of water actually got on that ship. It must've involved a double team effort to accomplish that. Knowing the whole time what they(R.J. and Chris)were planning. Landing in Avalon and mooring there makes sense because of the currents(Catalina Eddy)that are created there but I'm guessing that plan was quashed when the currents didn't wash her away to open waters like was probably the plan. The amount of head trauma she had shows she took a beating before "the push" occurred, every interview has mentioned in the past. I wonder what would happen if pics just surfaced showing the mayhem from a far? 🤔
One day she was invited to meet with this movie star about an upcoming major role. This man was a legend already, and was very powerful. … Thinking she herself was powerful and savvy, she accepted the invite. In his hotel room. She never saw it coming. Without even discussing the film, this actor - drunk already - began making a pass at her. She politely declined, and excused herself. He wouldn’t have it. He literally threw her down, slapped the hell out of her, and ripped her clothes off. He shouted obscenities at her, continually punched and held her arms so tight he left scars and bruises. He raped her repeatedly, spitting on her, and did permanent damage to her body. She was bleeding everywhere, with a battered face. She passed out. When she came to, the actor was still in the room gloating, and told her to come see him tomorrow night and he might give her the role. He laughed at her as she fell down, her legs so wobbly and weak. She gathered her torn clothes, and tried to walk out of the hotel and to her car - blood and semen running down her legs and bruises already forming on her face. She could barely make it back home in her car. She wanted to kill herself, so ashamed of what happened. The damage to her psyche was permanent, and haunted her forever. Her mom said she must have made the actor mad and offended him. They called a doctor, who took her to the hospital secretly to have her treated. The studio knew, and did nothing. After all, the star actor was a money machine. She grew into an amazing woman with a legendary career. But she never forgot, or forgave, and never got over what happened. She never named the star actor publicly, but her friends and family knew the truth. Even after marriage and kids, if she saw this actor anywhere, she would almost convulse and cry. And worst of all, Hollywood and the world continued to honor him, pay him, and treat him like a king. Those who know the truth are still hoping and praying he will rot in hell for eternity.
@@1ACL Really? I've never heard about this happening to her but I'm not surprised. It was not uncommon back then. I saw another famous actress interviewed years ago and she had tears in her eyes and said she'd paid her dues.
@@Longtack55 The POINT Being . . . Yes, there are Alot of Homicide's per Year, but They Both Had a Name for Themselve's In HOLLY-"WEIRD" and They Both were Said to Have Died By Accident. Think that the Whole World KNOW'S BETTER.
He made some nauseating confessions in his first autobiography, "The Ragman's Son" (1988). You get an idea of how he treated females in general (as sex objects). From having inappropriate contact with young girls to using sex to punish a woman - he was vile.
@@carolbenson6524 Being a womanizer doesn't necessarily make a man a predator, but Douglas had issues with women and a rage problem (by his own admission). He was also taken advantage of at age 14 by a female teacher (but unfortunately, he didn't see it that way, he was conditioned into believing that it was a good experience) so it became a cycle.
She was filming the movie "Brainstorm" w/Walken, the filming went on a holiday break. They invited him to share the holidays aboard their yacht "the Splendor", *(Wood did movie Splendor in the grass" w/ Warren Beatty, I believe that' movie is where the name came from). Anyway filming was supposed to start after the holiday, + on the west coast. So they invited him to spend a few days around Catalina. There was gossip about Wood + Walken, and even ones involving Wagner + Walken- 🤔
@@j.cleveland9031 Natalie got up to get water in the night & saw Wagner with his butler, she accidentally broke the glass & cut her hand, then had what might be termed as a nervous breakdown. She remarried him later, saying "Better the devil you know"-according to Lana Suzanne Finstead spent 7 years researching Natalie's biography, it explains quite a lot about her, & Hollywood at that time, where there were MANY gay actors in the closet, & it was often used to hold over their heads as actors were blacklisted who spoke up. I suspected Kirk Douglas from the book, but Lana naming him, clears that up, she was 15 & bleeding quite a bit, but her Mother wouldn't let her go to the Dr lest questions be asked, she was financially supporting the family, & her Mom was exploitative, controlling, & lived through Natalie's fame as if it were her own, basically all signs of a narcissist. Natalie was a sweet, gentle soul by all accounts. She slept with Nick Ray, 42 at the time, to get the part in Rebel without a Cause, & then was exploited by the guys in the movie, because she was under such pressure to transition from child star to teen star, she was 15 at that time as well. A family heard a woman yelling for help & a man taunting her "What are you going to do now?" & they shone a light in the water until it went silent, sound carries significantly across water, & the family anchored nearby had no reason to lie, neither did the Caption, the cops never questioned Wagner in spite of her going missing shortly after midnight & him waiting until 6am to call the Coast Guard, & her being terrified of dark water, which was a true phobia she had all her life. It's a great biography. Much Love
it can be for innocent reasons. Walked was in California and alone, he lives on East coast. And he and Natalie just made a movie. Geeze, everyone is making some actions into evil actions instead of just a regular event. The Wagner's had been married a long time and if they wanted a friend to go along, it's not suspicious. Plenty of people do it.
I have watched a few reports on the Natalie Wood case, it seems like Robert Wagner killed her... Hope her sister / family find justice for her ...... (he's already 90 years old).
I lived in L.A. at the time. Rumour was that Nathalie caught Wagner and Walken in a compromising position. It was not the 1st time she caught her husband with a man. This would explain that.
It’s ridiculous, how some Celebrities are so guarded by others, even when they commit crimes. And, Christopher should have said something. He’s also to blame. RIP~ Natalie! 🕊🙏🕊
Was Walken ever married ? Maybe he is gay , ( which was taboo back in those days ) and Wagner threatened to make it known if he ( Walken ) started talking ... Never could stand Wagner , but Iv'e always liked C. Walken.
He might very well have killed her but what's the point of pursuing this? Robert Wagner will be dead before this could even make it to trial as his lawyers could delay it for years. Rich people often get away with things and there's nothing that can be done about it, especially 61 years after the alleged crime happened. I'm pretty sure OJ killed his ex-wife Nicole and pretty sure Robert Blake also killed his wife Bonnie....but their money allowed them to get away with it. And it is starting to look like Donald Trump is going to get away with attempting a coup on January 6th...rich people almost always get away with serious crimes. But if a poor person gets caught shoplifting a package of meat because they're hungry you can bet they're going straight to jail.
Except maybe on their death bed. My Great Grandfather was murdered, the person never arrested, but the killer gave up the info. on his death bed. Nothing to lose and no jail time.
@Walking with Heather Sorry to hear about the tragic death of your relative. I'm not sure if knowing that information helped you. It's still sad that a human life is taken by another human. 🙏
Oh yes, God knows and He will punish the evil people of the world in ways no man ever could. "Vengeance is mine said the Lord." If a person repents of their sins and accepts what Jesus did for us all on the Cross, He lived a totally sinless life and chose to be sacrificed and die for our sins & God raised from the dead 3 days later. So, in believing in Jesus' work on the Cross and God raising Him from the dead, and your repenting to Jesus of your sins, you can be saved from the eternity of hell that's awaiting all who won't believe in Jesus. He is the only way out of that awful eternity, where the worm dies not and there is gnawing & gnashing of teeth in pain! The only way to go to a wonderful eternity is in accepting Jesus' shed Blood on the Cross. His Blood covers all your sins and God sees Jesus when He looks at you, not your sins! Look up John 3:16,17 on your browser. And Romans 10:9-13, 1Thessalonians 4:13-18. "Comfort one another with these words. " Remember Jesus loves you and, "He is the way, the truth, and the life, and no one comes to The Father but by Him!"
What's the use of opening the case when he's already lived his life and is now at the brink of death at 91???? Why didn't they investigate more in the 80s?
That may be true, but I'd rather him die in prison without his family......than not. One day in prison mat not seem like justice but it's better than letting him skate totally free without any justice at all. Who knows he may live to be a hundred.
If he murdered her the world should know he is a murderer. It needs to be cleared before he leaves this world with a clear reputation he doesnt deserve.
@@stealthwarrior5768 his reputation here is not what truly matters When he stands before God on judgement day … now that is an entirely different story and the only thing that matters in the end .
The case was re-opened 10 years ago. The original investigation was closed in a matter of days, because of Wagner's celebrity. That has shielded him for a long time.
I hope and pray it will be. It could only be one of 3 people to commit the crime and her old husband is first on the list, then Christopher, and then the boat Captain. I believe Natalie's old husband did it. No woman goes off a yacht or into the water alone at night. I've not watched one thing with him in it or on it since her death. She was beautiful.
@@lizziepie3442 They're Early Reports. That She Was Pushed, Into A Life Boat. That Capsized. Causing Her To Get Tangled Up. Almost 40 Years Ago, Ending November. We Were Teens, But Have Never Forgotten. The Vibe Was He Did It, Just Unfortunately Got Away With It. Men's Justice. Not KARMIC JUSTICE.
Robert Wagner adored Natalie Wood. He could have accidentally killed her in a fit of rage (it was rumored that she was having an affair with Christopher Walken and Walken was saying Natalie should return to acting full-time (at dinner that night)). However, I believe Natalie and her husband was both drunk and arguing and she drowned when she fell in while trying to untie the rope attached to the life boat.
Go to youtube and watch her act the final scene of West Side Story. Her performance was Oscar worthy. She was a Hollywood treasure and we were all so shocked and saddened at her death.
It's been no secret for many years that Wagner is the #1 suspect, with no other viable suspects -- Walken and the yacht capt. having long ago been ruled out. What's the holdup in getting justice for Natalie?
The hold up is money and fame. There's no proof decades later. I'd bet the house that Natalie had bruises on her upper arms. He likes to grab Women that way. All the way back to Alex Mundy and It Takes a Thief.
Only the good die young. The evil live to be a grand old age. Never liked either of those men, always found them to be false and creepy. Surprised at how many people I`ve been right about.
_@David Wang_ _1 hour ago_ _Yeah, all false and creepy men should be_ _indicted and that includes Donald Trump_ _you don't get much more false and creepy_ _than him_ Ok troll, you`ve been living in a cave diddling with yourself for too long. Your hero fiddler is pure evil. As for the wonderful swamp drainer, it`s been proven that Killary made it all up about him. You only have to read her latest novel...not something I`d lower myself to do, but Private Eye mag reviewed it this month, with their sick bucket in hand.
Especially because soon after her death he was already dating someone new . His kids didn’t get a chance to grieve and he was already dating? Absolutely disgusting.
The story told about Natalie's death doesn't make sense. I think there's a lot of secrets and Robert Wagner's involved but has never told the truth and probably never will. Natalie's family deserves the truth. RIP Natalie.
My ex fiance was around there in Catalina at the time. He was in the harbor and they were at the islip. Totally suspicious and Mr. Wagner has some explaining to do. It has been decades and its known she was assaulted.
@@harperstacey9604 THEY WERE TOGETHER SHORTLY AFTER HE BURIED NATALIE, THE WIFE HE MURDERED IN HIS TYPICAL JEALOUS NARRS DRUNKEN RAGES. WAS ALL SET TO MURDER WARREN BEATTY TOO. A RAVING PSYCHO FROM THE BEGINNING . EVERYONE WILL CELEBRATE THE CREEPS SOON TO BE DEATH. GOOD RIDDANCE TO BAD RUBBISH.
What I find odd is that I believe Natalie Woods star was brighter than Wagners. So why did the powers that be want to protect him rather than get to the truth about what happened to a major star?
Because she was GONE...He was still here. He had connections thruout the industry AND thruout Catalina local gov't and police...As we know, today, EVERY police Dep't will do certain "favors" for certain local "big shots"....That's Robert Wagner for sure...
Yeah, Lana Wood was not a superstar, in the 70s or any other decade. I lived through the 70s, and I’ve never heard of her. Not saying her theories aren’t plausible, just, maybe, do some qualitative research with someone actually alive in the 70s before dropping inaccuracies about pop culture.
@@kristyhoward6897 Jackie Collins of the family? 😂😂😂 You are being kind. Jackie wrote some 30+ bestsellers, all original work, not ridding on other people's coattails.
There's no mystery. They were all hammered drunk. She likely later tried to leave the boat via the dingy and managed to instead fall into the water. Read the coroner's report and you will see that she tried hanging on to the side of the boat until she could no longer...and she drown. The only thing the others on the boat were guilty of is being too drunk/passed out to hear her if she called for help.
I'll be honest, I don't know what to believe at this point because I don't know about the case, but... I've heard other people say the coroner said there was no water in her lungs like she drowned, but instead foam. It's possible she was drugged (or died from an od or something and they panicked) and was thrown over after her death. We may never know. Unless they decide to finally tell the truth. But I doubt it.
@@shannonstibor6967 You do know Natalie had a nasty blow to her head right? I think Wagner hit her. She may have been on the dingy crying for help. They were all very drunk. Walken was out cold. I believe then beat Captain. I think Wagner should have been found culpable in her death. At least a possibility of manslaughter or 2nd degree murder. They "claimed" she hit her head trying to get out of the dingy and onto the boat. I really think it was in reverse.
I think that this is how it went down. Robert wanted Natalie do have a 3 way with him and Christopher Walken. She probably "blew up" at the suggestion, and a verbal altercation broke out, and some sort of physical altercation as well. I have never doubted for one minute that Robert Wagner was responsible for Natalie's death.
I think there was something going on between Natalie & Chris. Walken & robt. Wagner her husband got jealous. beat her unconscious. Panicked & dumped her body over board & she drowned. She couldn't swim...
Dave hanson has it right. Wagner and walken are psychopaths so they keep quiet about the event. Sex party gone wrong and she wasn't happy so she got fucked overboard in a rage. It was a narcissistic rage episode that ended tragically.
I always thought Robert Wagner was totally shady. I never liked seeing him on NCIS, he just was absolutely creepy, and out of his element. I can believe that maybe him and Chris Walken had a thing going, and it probably went 3 ways with Natalie involved too, a lot of celebs did that swinger thing back then. Swing activity was much more common than people realize, before the AIDS epidemic. On a related note, I think William Shatner is shady as hell too, he had a wife that drowned in a swimming pool some years back, and I always felt that was the result of some kind of drunken fight between them where she ended up unconscious in the water. I know people worship Shatner like a god or an icon, but he just has an evil vibe to me, just like Robert Wagner.
I don’t think it was a three way thing at all. I’ve watched numerous cases analyses that were saying Robert was jealous of Chris and Natalie having a thing.
What Charlie said. Also, I liked Robert Wagner when he was Young. I was such a fan of the Titanic movie from 1950s something... Then I found out about this... Changed my views yes
Totally disagree about William Shatner! He was devastated and loved his wife. I have met Mr. Shatner, just at a convention, he is the most genuine down to earth person. The death of Natalie was suspicious and obviously something shaded happened but William Shatner's situation was totally different.
So no-one is going to interrogate the other very famous actor who was on the yacht that night !. He has always said he will not talk about it " this is not a conversation I am about to have ". Both male actors on the yacht that night have had immensely profitable and successful careers until now . I guess that's Hollywood . And why I don't watch 'programming 'TV or movies anymore.
I was very young when this happened but I always thought she was one of the most beautiful lady's I'd ever seen.Still think that.It was a horrible thing to happen and after all these years it still breaks my heart.I hope the truth comes out soon,as it should have then
Nooooo....it was Natalie and Walken flirting with another and her husband Wagner was extremely jealous. They filmed a movie together her and Walken. Walken is innocent. Robert couldn't stand them two being friends.
@@niapaulino3310 that was the cover story. Sounds just about believable but really Robert wouldn't have cared if he looked at her. I heard that a girl and her friend were in an elevator and Robert Wagner got in and was flirting with the guy not the girl. He was standing very close and asked him if he was getting excited. The guy was caught off guard but swears he was being flirted with. I don't know if it's a true story but it sure sounded like it when I heard it.
Lana's theory that Wagner first knocked Natalie out unconscious, then tossed her overboard begs the question then of who the woman was who for the next 20 or so minutes screamed for help, as a woman earwitness on a nearby boat said.
Probably because none of that happened. As a young girl Natalie Woods was my favorite actress. But I always felt that she accidently fell overboard and drowned, reasons being that she had consumed either alcohol or drugs.
A woman on a nearby boat (Marylin Wayne) claimed that she heard cries for help. She just said she heard cries for help and did not specify a time - and even if she did specify a time - it makes no difference. It is not hard to deduce that the cries for help came when Natalie was still alive and stopped when she was knocked unconscious.
It's been 40 years. What do people expect? Somebody's iPhone camera having a video of Robert Wagner throwing her overboard? Ain't going to happen. It's long past putting this thing to rest.
Stunning revelation...?? Her sister has been saying this stuff for years. Lana Wood was never a Hollywood superstar. This is another old news, new presentation, story!
I was a flight attendant on her flight from Raleigh, NC, where she was filming to Atlanta to transfer to her flight to LAX just before her death. She was so charming, and sweet. She was much more petite than I would have imagined. She signed a soldiers leg cast without being asked. I was so devastated watching the news of her drowning a week or so later. I'll always remember her wonderful smile.
I met Mary Badham who played her younger sister Willie in This Property is Condemned, and she spoke very highly of her. She seemed like a really nice lady.
Very nice story. I'm sure she was petite, lovely, and gorgeous. She was a Movie Star. They don't make them like Natalie Wood anymore.
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That's what needs to be remembered. All the tabloid stuff about her death is sickening. And blaming Hollywood. The whole country would have the sins everyone says Hollywood does. Divorce, cheating, money , etc. It's in our lives.
She just walked up and signed the leg cast out of the blue?
She couldn’t swim and she had a phobia of water. The entire case was shaky from the start
I really hope they find out the truth eventually
Give Natalie the justice she deserves.
" ... couldn’t swim and she had a phobia of water". I see. That's obviously why she was on a fupping BOAT.
@@Oldclimber1 She probably went to make her husband happy. I've heard many times she was afraid of water because she came close to drowning on set when she was a kid. I myself can't swim and I'm scared of water because my bro in-law threw me in. I passed out from fear. I've been on several boats since but I'm really careful and wear a life vest.
*EXACTLY! Why would a woman with a phobia of the water get on a small boat, alone, at night?! And they never interrogated her HUSBAND?!*
@@trishaann1616 From what I have gathered about her, the only person she was out to make "happy" was herself.
@@omargoodnesssake Why should they ? Back in those days, outside of the Hollywood movies, husband and wife arguments were assumed to be "normal". Its only recently that a husband arguing with a wanton wife, which she was, is guilty of anything that anyone could think up.
Justice for Natalie....
The case was not handled by the straight and narrow.... $$
Exactly!
Sounds like oj.
Exactly!! ✌️
O.J. Robert Blake so on and so on so not right!
Possibly. It does seem strange that after this many years it's still all hearsay. Also, a one-time payment of $$ wouldn't bury this forever and couldn't prevent more investigating of a story that had been such a national sensation for so long. I mean, can you imagine what a career-maker a conviction on this case would be? Cases like this mint detectives.
pandora’s box
has been flung open again.
got to love a sister
that’ll never quit - for truth & justification!
bless her cotton socks🙏🏻
✌🏻🇦🇺
Robert Wagner has never had a peaceful night's sleep since he murdered his wife
@Mitch Swanson there are very many people on the planet who are holding in their previous indiscretions and for them to take them to the Grave will not hold up well for them in the afterlife... and Mister Wagner is the only one who knows the truth... I hope you yourself rest peacefully once you are done with this place
She was so beautiful. God rest her soul.🙏
Robert Wagner was prettier than her, which is why he escaped justice for causing her death :(
@@stephencoffman1964 he did not escape judgement from God Almighty !!
@@jesussaves7973 yup so true!
@@jesussaves7973 I hope you are correct, but the Catholics (I am a recovered Catholic turned Religious Skeptic) believe he could ask for and receive God Almighty's forgiveness :(
@@stephencoffman1964 what goes around, comes around. I hope Wagner gets his comeuppance one day.
Good for Lana!!! Never give up. We, the fans of Natalie, want justice for Natalie and we know Wagner was involved more than he has ever said. Walken knows what happened.
I agree with you. 🙂
It was a satanic ritual
@@cb90222 yes! It was a sacrifice
Wagner had alit to do with this
So why isn’t Walken talking if he knows something??
The injustice in this world makes me sick !!! 😡😞
Same.
Cautionary tale.....Try and find something to counterbalance the darkness, otherwise it will take you away from the person you are meant to be and dim your own light. ❣
@@delishme2 OmG ..this is so , so true !
There is a day of reckoning…and we all will be there to hear the truth, and time will be no more.
@@delishme2 Jesús is The Way and The Truth and The Life, and no one comes to God (The Light) except through Jesus.
This has been rumored for years regarding Wagner's role in his wife's death. As far as Kirk Douglas goes, he was also linked to the disappearance of another Hollywood actress who was not famous yet. Her name was Jean Spangler. She vanished on October 7th 1949. There was talk that she was romantically involved with Douglas on the set of a movie where she was an extra. Ms. Spangler became pregnant after a brief affair with a "big Hollywood" star. She was last seen leaving her home on 10/7/49, never to be seen again. The only item recovered of hers, was a pocketbook with the straps broken off in a park miles from her home. In the purse, there was a note that read "Kirk, Can't wait any longer. Going to see Dr. Scott. It will work better this way while Mother is away." After her disappearance was announced in the press, Douglas randomly called the LA police department stating: "This is Kirk Douglas, I had nothing to do with Ms. Spangler's disappearance." Spangler's mother recalled that Douglas had picked her daughter up several times from their home. When LAPD looked for a Dr. Scott, he was located, but denied that Spangler was one of his patients. Ms. Spangler was 3 months pregnant and it is believed that she was seeking to terminate the pregnancy. Abortion was illegal in 1949, so it's plausible that Dr. Scott just denied knowing her. There are other explanations for what happened to Ms. Spangler. She could have underwent an illegal abortion and died. Being that it was against the law, she could have been "disposed" of for fear of the legal ramifications. OR, Douglas killed her because he was married at the time and didn't want this "bad press" to get out. In any event, both cases are tragic. RIP to all involved.
Wow, thanks for this. It's believable. That Douglas was s braggadocio. Little cocky man. Sad. Beautiful women lost their lives for no good reason!
There is One Law. It is written as the Ten Commandments. Laws of man change, God’s law is eternal. And we shall all be judged by it. Many women die in abortions, ALL babies do, the doctors leave the ones born to die if the abortion does not kill them. Sad. Condoms were available in the 40’s. So was the rhythm method, and abstinence has always been available. NOW there are the same and many others as well, including a vasectomy!
Kirk Douglas stated in his first autobiography that he had inappropriate sexual contact with young girls, and even wrote, "I think I should have been in jail". He bragged about using sex to punish an anti-Semitic woman, referred to a 12-year-old girl as "sexy" (cue projectile vomit), and basically treated females like sex objects. Even an actress who was a friend of his said you couldn't sit next to him without him putting his hand on your leg.
@@allaboutmycats454 WOW ! This is something I didn't know.
@@clipp7777
You mean..."no good men"!!!🤬
It’s obvious what happened, shame he had a full free life while Natalie didn’t! And I totally believe the Kirk D part, we’re totally finding out just how dark “Hollywood” really was/is! RIP Natalie 🕊
Don’t blame Hollywood. Millions of women get assaulted, murdered, raped every year in this country and others by by so-called “ordinary” men.
@@kellyharper8072 Everyone knows this too ✌️
@@roguehouse8336 well good to know I guess. Thanks for the explanation. 😜
@@kellyharper8072 I agree!
Jean Spangler upcoming actress golden era. Went missing to this day not found. Left her house, car found, handbag with broken strap on a path I think. Inside a note to a Kirk. She had appeared in one of his movie's previous. Supposed she was pregnant, maybe botched abortion? Speculation was he was the father. Statements made, other ppl on set. His treatment of women came up more often than not in what I've read. Tarnishing character for some, is more important than ruining, taking someone's life to maintain power. Hollywood and otherwise. Totally believe Natalie.
well, this has always been a hanging cloud of sorts, hasn't it??
Natalie didn't deserve such an ending....
Nobody deserves an ending like that!! No one deserves to be murdered!!
Like Marilyn. Used, abused, and disgaurded by the men in her life. 😔🙁
@@jackyflowers3493 its a really sad tale...:(
Just horrible ! How money can make things go away it's so disgusting and I hope they will have there judgement day in heaven if that's where they go.
Truly.
Like the "Big Guys" in Hollywood didn't know he iced her cake
And Christopher Walken .
Fucking coward
I believe her sister is right. It has been covered up for years. 😔
Yes, I was told more about this case, because I worked somewhere close to the Yacht Club. But, I'm not at liberty to tell, because it'd hurt the Wagner estate.
They say when money and celebrity are involved there is no justice. Remember Claudine Longet
@@PoeLemic please tell the police what you know! justice will prevail! it's not about wagner it is about justice
@@DonLicuala judge not, lest ye be judged. But, murder, is still murder.
Many of us believe Natalie was murdered. We’ve believed that for decades. Robert Wagner, karma is real.
He's lived to be 91.
and most of us don't believe that. thank god.
It's so funny when someone uses somebody's death as karma,I mean we all die so i guess in the end we all get the same karma. I don't believe in karma or else why are so many of these super rich and powerful pedophiles and just nasty people have such long and successful lives. The truth is in life good and bad things happen to you. I also dont believe in an afterlife or heaven or hell. Just fantasy talk in my opinion.
Ps: Natalie was definitely murdered and I believe that mainly due to the so called captain that was there who finally got the balls to tell the truth decades later 😂😂.
Powerful people, lots of money, a lot of influence, can change the outcome of many things. This is no exception.
Wagner is still married to Jill St. John. I am sure she knows the truth, yet they are still together after many, many years. That’s the big mystery to me.
@@malkaz9167 Do you really think he would have told Jill he killed Natalie? If he actually did.
@@dabprod Of course Wagner would deny it to Jill. I never expected him to tell the truth, but she knows the facts and can figure it out for herself. No doubt, she’s in denial.
@@malkaz9167 Well, if you say so........
My Daddy always said, There's a law for the rich and a law for the poor. Now at 56 I understand Daddy❤
I think the world always thought Wagner was responsible for her death and Chris Walkin stayed silent!
I have always heard the same story wherein people opine that Natalie Wood walked in on Wagner and Walken in a compromising situation, and she went off! It got her murdered.
@@SixMiracles-uj1zp She should have never remarried Wagner. Their first marriage ended in divorce because Natalie caught him in bed with a man and freaked out. All the tabloids blamed her having an affair with her co-star Warren Beatty for the demise of the marriage. Natalie let people think that because it would have caused a scandal at that time, and ruined both her career and Wagner's if word got out he liked men. One biographer stated she was warned by some friends not to marry Wagner, the first time because he was known to hang out with Hollywood gay actors.
Most people thought Walken stayed silent just to save his career. No way does a woman leave a boat in the dead of night barely dressed unless she's in a desper ate situation! RIP Natalie, your fans pray for justice!!
It's like Chappaquidick, those close to Kennedy know he wasn't even in the car when it went over.
He covered for him. He said there was no argument and other bs too. Complicate.
Natalie was the Rolls Royce of actresses..
I'm infatuated with everything this woman ever did.
May she rest in heavenly Peace..🧡💦
What do you think happened?
@@trishaann1616
I don't know, I wasn't there.
but GOD was... & he won't get bought out with no amount of money in the world.
The LORD will judge accordingly, based on what he witnessed..💦
@@ellitestar “factors beyond our comprehension”, like what?
I can comprehend a lot.
@@francessimmonds5784
your right Frances I don't know what complex circumstances, I'm only human, this is why i edited & took that part out, but God doesn't make mistakes & he has no need to edit anything out.
he is going to take care of what really happened.
No she was the Cadillac of actresses.
I wasn't even talking about a lawsuit. I just mentioned the fact that several people (according to articles) have said they knew that Kirk Douglas assaulted her.
Apparently kirk Douglas assaulted marie Osmond too. She revealed this. He was a real creep.
@@kimberlybowling6245 He was an old POS that overacted every scene.
Her daughter Natasha told Robert Downey Jr.,who mentioned it many times.
@@kimberlybowling6245 marie as far as i know hasnt released the name of the person who assaulted her
@@kimberlybowling6245 haven’t heard this what a vile man
Everyone saw how obvious that was when it happened.
It was obviously a case of murder
@@chuckunplugged It wasn't that obvious. It could have been an accident.
I was 11 years old, loved watching Hart to Hart every week (Wagner's TV show) and even I thought he did it.
@@chuckunplugged No, not necessarily.
@@geoffreyfoster8039 if it was a accident then he would of said so. He would of gotten off. But I stead he's lied all these yrs God will handle him in due time
I read she was the one with the money and was getting tired of her husband's behaviour hope the truth comes out what happened
@Ann Stewart It probably will. _AFTER_ he dies. Another case of preferential treatment for Hollywood ghouls.
a rumor is not proof.
This was their 2 marriage. I heard a report that she found him in bed with another man during their first marriage in the 50's.
@@KindCountsDeb3773 Witnesses are more than rumors. You're trying to say a man having an intense argument with his wife, right before she turns up dead, means nothing?
@@kennethrussell1158 I heard a rumor that it was not Natalie and Christopher sneaking around but RJ and Christopher sneaking around! It was suggested that Natalie caught them and had to be silenced!
I thought that’s the way it went down when it happened. Doesn’t Chris Walkin have any thing to say?
Hahahaha
Robert Wagnor was jealous of Natalie's and Christopher's friendship. I believe that's what started the argument that turned into murder.
Walken spoke with the detectives in charge of the re-opened investigation and is not a suspect. He corroborated the account of the boat captain, Dennis Davern.
@@melhew4102 That is what I had heard.
He should!!
I absolutely believe robert wagner played a role in Natalie Wood's death!
Most of us believe that Diane.
All we know is what the captain said and he was the one handing out drugs along with booze!! He's a very suspicious character. Plus Robert told only the parts he wanted known. He probably didn't know for sure how she ended up with that dinghy.
@@cyloneking01 😧😧😧😧😧😧
We had lie detectors and good psychics . Its a bit late.
So was Christopher walken
Christopher Walken could've said something wtf
What makes you think he never said anything? He was questioned extensively.
I agree!!!!
He could have and should have. He wassssss there.
The one who had the most to say was the boat captain. Not sure if he is still around now. I still feel to this day, Wagner got away with murder. He was jealous of Natalie’s “relationship” with Walkin, too.
The Captain did he was scared too.
Even when this first happened, I always felt she was murdered, I just pray the Truth will finally come out!
Oh it will on judgement day!’ God Almighty will deal with whoever was responsible in her death
God kws ! Maybe on his death bed he will admit it
I don't think we'll ever know the truth.
Robert Wagner pulled-up next to my twin sister and I in Griffith Park, at a marathon my sister was running in (for NBC) and he shook her hand. He reached over to shake my hand, when she introduced me, but I refused to shake his hand and folded my hands behind my back, standing next to him, sitting on the golf cart. He said "why don't you want to shake my hand?" staring me in the face and instinctively I said "Because, I believe you killed Natalie Wood. Your vibes are very evil." And I walked away with my sister. 😢
I hope he got this reply often in life, though I doubt many actually had the guts. Thank you for your outspoken solidarity. ❤
@@maggienolia3079 It was God's good pleasure.❤
@@katiekidman9933 Bet he never forgot what u said to him !
@@susanazinger2525 Thank you. I believe you are right.👍
@@katiekidman9933 Bravo!! To have said that to him takes great courage and bravery. Well done Katie. I have great respect for you and what you did. Thank you on behalf of us all including myself, who don't believe his version of events on that dreadful night. 💐
Natallie Wood's death and her being assaulted years earlier are two separate issues, so as far as Justice for her goes, I hope Divine Justice prevails, because human justice ain't worth a hoot.
Judge not, that you may not be judged!
@@gleeberger8966 one need not judge when they saw the witness testimony of a woman yelling for help for hours & hearing the testimony of others. “$ talks & famous people with it, walk.”
@@gleeberger8966 so why are telling not judge if you are judging the ones who judging also?
You may have liked Natalie wood as an actress , but we really don't know her person life, we only go by what are told.
Saying we are not judge lest we be judge means we are not to say untrue about things about others.
We can say things about what we know.
It is not really judging.
@@shellyblanchard5788 God is the only Rightous judge... He is the only one that knows what happened. And you are not Natalie's attorney! I loved Natalie Wood, and if there was any foul play, God will serve justice in the end.
@@gleeberger8966 Yes you are right, I am not her attorney. I am just giving my opinion to. i thought that was reason why you got upset. Yes God is only only one who know what during that time. i think she was on that movie with Chirtopher Walking in that movie brain storm. I am not making any accusations, but we don't know their lives behind the camera. Yes she was good actress.
My mother has always said that Wagner did it and when I heard the facts years ago, I agreed. It made me sick to see his face. And as someone in an earlier comment said, Christopher Walkins should have said something. Not surprised to hear about Kirk Douglass being an abuser. Ugggh!
Christopher chose cake.
My mother said-???? Well mummys always right but what would she know,or anybody.
@@peterpiper482 Mummy is obviously smarter than you. She 🤔thinks..and, I think Mummy is right. Wagner is a pompous, chauvinist. He got away with it. Maybe you are one of Bobbie's cousins?
@@peterpiper482 It's obviously an opinion, Dick Piper. Just smile, Old chap.
Both Kirk and Natalie 2nd generation from Russia. Kirk might have been born there. Old world mentality about women + Hollywood misogyny.
Robert Wagner was a drinker. I’m sure a lot of alcohol was flowing. Always increases risk of domestic violence.
I remember my grandmother telling me about this. I always thought everything sounded sketchy. Hope the truth comes out so that Wood's remaining family can have closure since it seems justice has taken too long to punish the guilty.
Those girls enjoyed their parents money and fame. They won't admit he's guilty, only Lana will be happy with the truth.
@@lorimiller4301 what a horrible, baseless thing to say. Her kids adored them both. And, they believe him and are close to him. It's only Lana that is making a stir. But , that's been her attitude through out their being sisters, with Natalie being the most famous.
The Natalie Wood Story
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It's not a mystery, we all know who did it, it just can't be proven.
That’s true.
Ok but what if you’re wrong I mean sure it’s been suspected for years but what If you know
Remember the movie Training Day, when Alonzo said it is not what you know but what you can prove.
If he did it, he will answer to God. From Ms. Harper Stacey.
@@a.f.365 How can there be four add'l witnesses to the boat captain when there were four people total on the boat including Natalie and Robert Wagner?
I've always thought there was some Hollywood cloak of silence over this, that agreements were made not to ruin a couple of careers. I bet that boat captain had his life threatened.
But you don't know that. Why do people go to sleazy "proof" instead of t he most obvious reasons, like it being an accident.
@@KindCountsDeb3773 Its just an opinion.
The captain said he gave everyone a pill of some sort to calm everyone down. On top of booze? He should be in jail for that. No wonder he keeps saying RW did it. Married people fight bd it can get messy with the wife just leaving in a car or in this case she got into the dinghy. The sister can't believe it because Natalie was scared of water. But Nat was plastered and people get reckless when drunk. RJ drunk too. There didn't have to be murdererous intent for a death to happen that night. I think RJ was totally not in his right mind and went back to bed thinking she'd come back. Dumb very dumb. That whole boatload of people was to blame actually.
So let's see, according to Jim; Robert Wagner (allegedly) kills his wife, then calls "Hollywood" (whomever that is) and "Hollywood" sits down with him, and Walken and Wagner tells them he killed her. They then all agree to not tell anyone..because the people who make up "Hollywood" are cold callous beings with no moral compass who don't care if anyone-even one of their own is killed, and they'll commit a crime to keep a secret?
Is this the stupid bullshit you believe and are trying to disemate? Sorry to know that a fellow artist (you) are so ignorant and anti "Hollywood," not to mention a billion times wrong
@@leonardodalongisland It’s not necessary to call someone ignorant. Name calling is just not acceptable. We are all entitled to our opinions.
I remember watching this and my Mom saying that she felt like Natalie was killed by her husband! My condolences and prayers for y'all! May she Rest in peace
They divorced the first time because she caught her husband, who was bisexual, with the butler. The rumor is she caught him with Christopher Walken and threatened to tell the public. Don't threaten men. It could go wrong for you
I agree with your Mom!
The Natalie Wood Story
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Poor lady...so talented and lovely yet so mistreated.
I have always believed Robert killed her by throwing her overboard in a heated rage.
Wasnt that Kurt Russell and Goldie Hawn 1986?
After he beat her for a while...what a guy....hope he remembers it daily w no sleep.
This isn’t NEW! I watched the best documentary on her death a couple years ago. Yes he KILLED HER! ☠️
He didn't get married until nearly ten years later, but don't you let those pesky facts get in the way.
Not true. He remarried eight YEARS later. He did start dating Jill St. John three months later, which is not at all unusual for widowers; there's even an old saying: "Widows grieve; widowers replace."
@@bowtoyoursensei554 Ew.
Can you link the documentary please?
He was quite furious of Mr Walken's closeness to her.
I always felt that Wagner had something to do with it based on what witnesses said happened between them on that night. They were fighting and it got out of hand. Her sister said she was knocked unconscious and pushed in the water but according to the documentary people said they could hear her screaming for help and they believe she was in the water for quite sometime. I think it’s telling that Michael Douglas didn’t defend his father. He just said may he Rest In Peace.
Well we all now know that Spartacus was a POS. As far as Wagner goes.... the autopsy showed no lacerations or blows to the head so Natalie was not knocked out. Wagner may have dumped her over the side and untied the diggy to make her try to crawl back into it. When she was unable to get into it she remained in the water crying for help. Burses to her legs are consistent with an attempt to get into the hard canvass raft like diggy. Since she could not swim she eventually drowned. That is what I think happened. Wagner claims she untied the diggy herself and then probably fell out when she tried to pull start the motor,.
In either event he knew she was in the water and could not swim and left her there . Definitely a criminal act here. But as we all now know there is no real justice in the USA. It is a two tiered system where the rich, powerful or well connected can get away with murder. America has declined in her values since the Creation of the Federal Reserve that is a Privately owned central bank in 1913. That bank has the exclusive right to create currency and loans it to the Govt of the USA with interest attached, The Private FED has been the real govt of the nation and its corruption rolls down hill everywhere.
@@frankgraham1996 Yes either way you slice it I think he caused her death. There’s no way that he or anyone on that boat didn’t know that she was in the water.
I couldn’t believe no one was suspected or charged. It’s ABOUT TIME!
🤔
Seriously...?
Always suspected Robert Wagner.
Yeah me too. But from what I read they were all totally drunk … you know bad-off drunk …. way beyond buzzed. When alcohol abuse is involved so many bad things accompany it.
91 years old.. he doesnt care if he gets implicated or not.. too late too long! 🙏
Hope that old barnacle Wagner leaves a confession note in his will.
Better Late Than Never. He needs to pay for his crime. I don't care if it's a day or 16 years.
@@lblough9881 nobody will want to have the memory of them marred. I doubt it if he had anything to do with it that he will confess. It’s just too bad because I grew up admiring Robert Wagner as a child. Of course as an adult watching documentaries about Natalie‘s death I felt suspicions.
@@lblough9881 Me Too!
I ask myself, "Why do bad people live such long lives?"
Everyone knows RW killed her. Money talks though.
Come on man! Christopher Walkin was on that boat.
Wagner got away with murder but he will have to face God
@@gunsnwater2668 I think RW and NW were arguing because RW thought that NW was or had been fooling around with CW.
They probably both killed her
@@andrewSUN17 the captain must kw something also
I remember when this all happened because I used to go to Catalina Island regularly. I got into night photography on the island because it was a great place with minimal light too. Heck, you could walk 5mins out of Avalon and be in pitch black surroundings. I'm talkin', can't see your hand in front of your face. I also remember standing around the old casino taking pics, you could hear people talkin' on their boats in Avalon Bay. Being in total darkness for night pics, you could see and hear everything.
I remember watching Brainstorm and hearing all the whispers surrounding Natalie and Chris. The irony being what the movie was about and then this happening.
Brainstorm is a movie? I’ll have to check it out. Really interesting piece of experience you shared, thanks. I think people kept quiet initially for one reason, then kept quiet for their own reputation
@@lolawants2008
Brainstorm is a movie AND the rumors were flying during and after it came out. It's a good movie. I'd love to see a remake of it.
@@lolawants2008
I even sat on the back of that ship after the incident and the investigation was over🙃
@@swashbucklingadventures9929 whoa. So what are your thoughts having been there & followed the story..?
@@lolawants2008
I think 3 men need to spit it out as they're the ones that have answers and they know it🤬. Natalie had an affair with Warren Beatty while filming a movie way back when then rumors flew about another affair with another co-star(Chris) who just happened to be on the boat the night she died. Coincidence or planned? I don't think anyone ever asked that particular question before. I think more of the latter was the reason all 3 ended up on that ship that night and I find it extremely odd someone who was deathly afraid of water actually got on that ship. It must've involved a double team effort to accomplish that. Knowing the whole time what they(R.J. and Chris)were planning. Landing in Avalon and mooring there makes sense because of the currents(Catalina Eddy)that are created there but I'm guessing that plan was quashed when the currents didn't wash her away to open waters like was probably the plan. The amount of head trauma she had shows she took a beating before "the push" occurred, every interview has mentioned in the past.
I wonder what would happen if pics just surfaced showing the mayhem from a far? 🤔
Right, RW is 91 anyone STILL ALIVE is encouraged to speak up.
Maybe on death bed he will we can only pray RIP NAT
Yes, that comment made me feel old!
I BELIEVE ROBERT WAGNER DID IT.... HE HAD A BAD TEMPER.... IF HE IS 91 HE STILL HAS TO FACE GOD...
AND PRETTY SOON ...
GOD don't want Him!
I believe her sister .
Lana Wood has no proof of anything. She would say anything to sell her book. From Ms. Harper Stacey.
@@harperstacey9604 The LASD detectives have told her some details about the case.
@David Wang It's called a re-opened investigation. Look it up.
One day she was invited to meet with this movie star about an upcoming major role. This man was a legend already, and was very powerful. … Thinking she herself was powerful and savvy, she accepted the invite. In his hotel room. She never saw it coming.
Without even discussing the film, this actor - drunk already - began making a pass at her. She politely declined, and excused herself. He wouldn’t have it. He literally threw her down, slapped the hell out of her, and ripped her clothes off. He shouted obscenities at her, continually punched and held her arms so tight he left scars and bruises.
He raped her repeatedly, spitting on her, and did permanent damage to her body. She was bleeding everywhere, with a battered face. She passed out. When she came to, the actor was still in the room gloating, and told her to come see him tomorrow night and he might give her the role. He laughed at her as she fell down, her legs so wobbly and weak. She gathered her torn clothes, and tried to walk out of the hotel and to her car - blood and semen running down her legs and bruises already forming on her face.
She could barely make it back home in her car. She wanted to kill herself, so ashamed of what happened. The damage to her psyche was permanent, and haunted her forever. Her mom said she must have made the actor mad and offended him. They called a doctor, who took her to the hospital secretly to have her treated. The studio knew, and did nothing. After all, the star actor was a money machine.
She grew into an amazing woman with a legendary career. But she never forgot, or forgave, and never got over what happened. She never named the star actor publicly, but her friends and family knew the truth. Even after marriage and kids, if she saw this actor anywhere, she would almost convulse and cry. And worst of all, Hollywood and the world continued to honor him, pay him, and treat him like a king.
Those who know the truth are still hoping and praying he will rot in hell for eternity.
It is also rumored that he did the same thing to Marilyn Monroe when she was starting out,,,, when I read that I have since had a revulsion for him,,
Why don't you name him??? Co.e on!
His name was KIRK DOUGLASS, father of Michael Douglass.
All this just to be a somebody???
Is this worth it ladies?
@@1ACL Really? I've never heard about this happening to her but I'm not surprised. It was not uncommon back then. I saw another famous actress interviewed years ago and she had tears in her eyes and said she'd paid her dues.
Natalie's death was no mystery and most of us suspect that she was murdered Just like Marilyn Monroe 💔✝✝💔 RIP
,"Just like Marilyn Monroe." And 30,000 other Americans that year. What's your point?
@@Longtack55
The POINT Being . . . Yes, there are Alot of Homicide's per Year, but They Both Had a Name for Themselve's In HOLLY-"WEIRD" and They Both were Said to Have Died By Accident. Think that the Whole World KNOW'S BETTER.
Totally Agree.
@ I don't believe MM was as weak as you are describing!
@ You should stop acting like you know everyone because you really don't.
Such a beautiful actress I always thought something was "fishy" about this case and we may never know the truth!
Any thing is possible from the Kirk Douglas he was a monster
Can't stand that family..
He made some nauseating confessions in his first autobiography, "The Ragman's Son" (1988). You get an idea of how he treated females in general (as sex objects). From having inappropriate contact with young girls to using sex to punish a woman - he was vile.
And he was a womanizer!!
@@Muirmaiden
Actually I do remember reading that book in the early 90s. A big womanizer!
@@carolbenson6524 Being a womanizer doesn't necessarily make a man a predator, but Douglas had issues with women and a rage problem (by his own admission). He was also taken advantage of at age 14 by a female teacher (but unfortunately, he didn't see it that way, he was conditioned into believing that it was a good experience) so it became a cycle.
What married couple takes a third party along for the long weekend?… that may be another story all together in and of itself.
She was filming the movie "Brainstorm" w/Walken, the filming went on a holiday break. They invited him to share the holidays aboard their yacht "the Splendor", *(Wood did movie Splendor in the grass" w/ Warren Beatty, I believe that' movie is where the name came from). Anyway filming was supposed to start after the holiday, + on the west coast. So they invited him to spend a few days around Catalina. There was gossip about Wood + Walken, and even ones involving Wagner + Walken- 🤔
Where was Christopher walken's wife? From Ms. Harper Stacey.
@@j.cleveland9031 Natalie got up to get water in the night & saw Wagner with his butler, she accidentally broke the glass & cut her hand, then had what might be termed as a nervous breakdown. She remarried him later, saying "Better the devil you know"-according to Lana
Suzanne Finstead spent 7 years researching Natalie's biography, it explains quite a lot about her, & Hollywood at that time, where there were MANY gay actors in the closet, & it was often used to hold over their heads as actors were blacklisted who spoke up. I suspected Kirk Douglas from the book, but Lana naming him, clears that up, she was 15 & bleeding quite a bit, but her Mother wouldn't let her go to the Dr lest questions be asked, she was financially supporting the family, & her Mom was exploitative, controlling, & lived through Natalie's fame as if it were her own, basically all signs of a narcissist. Natalie was a sweet, gentle soul by all accounts. She slept with Nick Ray, 42 at the time, to get the part in Rebel without a Cause, & then was exploited by the guys in the movie, because she was under such pressure to transition from child star to teen star, she was 15 at that time as well.
A family heard a woman yelling for help & a man taunting her "What are you going to do now?" & they shone a light in the water until it went silent, sound carries significantly across water, & the family anchored nearby had no reason to lie, neither did the Caption, the cops never questioned Wagner in spite of her going missing shortly after midnight & him waiting until 6am to call the Coast Guard, & her being terrified of dark water, which was a true phobia she had all her life. It's a great biography. Much Love
WAGNER THE MURDERER INVITED HIM. NOT NATALIE .
it can be for innocent reasons. Walked was in California and alone, he lives on East coast. And he and Natalie just made a movie. Geeze, everyone is making some actions into evil actions instead of just a regular event. The Wagner's had been married a long time and if they wanted a friend to go along, it's not suspicious. Plenty of people do it.
I have watched a few reports on the Natalie Wood case, it seems like Robert Wagner killed her... Hope her sister / family find justice for her ...... (he's already 90 years old).
Justice is Long Gone...
I truly believe he killed her" weather it be, accidental or not" it's still "murder"
Yes, well, there is still eternal judgement.
@@carolwilliams5337 🙏 Amen
If it’s accidental it’s manslaughter or homicide, not murder.
I remember the coroner saying that her lungs did not have water in them. She had foam as if there from possible drug and alcohol
now that is interesting!
Yes they tried to say she overdosed or was so drunk that she hit her head as she fell overboard and drowned bc she was unconscious.
There was water found in her lungs.
@@beberivera7011 That is a possibility. Why believe the worst? There is no proof.
@@jennybrandt5188 I feel sorry for Robert Wagner. He is being convicted by the public without any proof.
It's almost always the husband, doesn't take a genius.
seems likely, intoxication, flirting w. not your husband, jealousy,
I lived in L.A. at the time. Rumour was that Nathalie caught Wagner and Walken in a compromising position. It was not the 1st time she caught her husband with a man. This would explain that.
I thought that she and Walken was having an affair. Oh.... that makes more sense.
@David Wang Thou protest too much. Did I hit a nerve? Is that you, RJ? 😂
everyone i know has always thought robert wagner murdered natalie wood and has gotten away with it. may he roast in hell
You're an Angel of mercy....
it's not known. He's been a gentleman and well liked in his home town. Nothing in his character suggests he'd hurt her.
@@KindCountsDeb3773 ted bundy once won volunteer of the year, what’s your point?
@@efandmk3382 and you need to look up the definition of angel of mercy
@@KindCountsDeb3773 His home town is Detroit, Michigan.
It’s ridiculous, how some Celebrities are so guarded by others, even when they commit crimes. And, Christopher should have said something. He’s also to blame. RIP~ Natalie! 🕊🙏🕊
There guilt before they die...
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Wagner must have had something on Walken. In for a penny, in for a pound as my Grandma used to say. 🤔🤷🏼♀️
Was Walken ever married ? Maybe he is gay , ( which was taboo back in those days ) and Wagner threatened to make it known if he ( Walken ) started talking ... Never could stand Wagner , but Iv'e always liked C. Walken.
I've always thought Robert Wagner killed her, but now that he's 91 yrs. old, this case should be looked at much closer. And fast before he dies.
He might very well have killed her but what's the point of pursuing this? Robert Wagner will be dead before this could even make it to trial as his lawyers could delay it for years. Rich people often get away with things and there's nothing that can be done about it, especially 61 years after the alleged crime happened. I'm pretty sure OJ killed his ex-wife Nicole and pretty sure Robert Blake also killed his wife Bonnie....but their money allowed them to get away with it. And it is starting to look like Donald Trump is going to get away with attempting a coup on January 6th...rich people almost always get away with serious crimes. But if a poor person gets caught shoplifting a package of meat because they're hungry you can bet they're going straight to jail.
@@CaneFu that just sucks if they get me for something l be like go get Hillary or all the other criminals out there leave me alone
@@ginaskrobosinski49 LOL. And what exactly is Hilary guilty of?
@@CaneFu Or like the Dems with the riots of summer of 2020.
@@TommyMac Well deleting 33,000 E-mails,smashing cell phones while being subpoenaed,child trafficking,etc.
Her husband and Christopher they know what the hell happened to Natalie
Why?
Maybe Robert Wagner threatened Christopher Walken to keep his mouth shut. From Ms. Harper Stacey.
I always Knew she was murdered...nothing added up.
NO ONE WILL EVER KNOW.
NO ONE IS GOING TO SQUEAL.
Except maybe on their death bed. My Great Grandfather was murdered, the person never arrested, but the killer gave up the info. on his death bed. Nothing to lose and no jail time.
@Walking with Heather Sorry to hear about the tragic death of your relative. I'm not sure if knowing that information helped you. It's still sad that a human life is taken by another human. 🙏
Oh yes, God knows and He will punish the evil people of the world in ways no man ever could. "Vengeance is mine said the Lord." If a person repents of their sins and accepts what Jesus did for us all on the Cross, He lived a totally sinless life and chose to be sacrificed and die for our sins & God raised from the dead 3 days later. So, in believing in Jesus' work on the Cross and God raising Him from the dead, and your repenting to Jesus of your sins, you can be saved from the eternity of hell that's awaiting all who won't believe in Jesus. He is the only way out of that awful eternity, where the worm dies not and there is gnawing & gnashing of teeth in pain! The only way to go to a wonderful eternity is in accepting Jesus' shed Blood on the Cross. His Blood covers all your sins and God sees Jesus when He looks at you, not your sins! Look up John 3:16,17 on your browser. And Romans 10:9-13, 1Thessalonians 4:13-18. "Comfort one another with these words. " Remember Jesus loves you and, "He is the way, the truth, and the life, and no one comes to The Father but by Him!"
Robert Wagner did it, Period!!
What's the use of opening the case when he's already lived his life and is now at the brink of death at 91???? Why didn't they investigate more in the 80s?
That may be true, but I'd rather him die in prison without his family......than not. One day in prison mat not seem like justice but it's better than letting him skate totally free without any justice at all. Who knows he may live to be a hundred.
If he murdered her the world should know he is a murderer. It needs to be cleared before he leaves this world with a clear reputation he doesnt deserve.
@@stealthwarrior5768 his reputation here is not what truly matters When he stands before God on judgement day … now that is an entirely different story and the only thing that matters in the end .
They had to keep it hush hush... When you are part of The Elite, money keeps you QUIET 🤫
The case was re-opened 10 years ago. The original investigation was closed in a matter of days, because of Wagner's celebrity. That has shielded him for a long time.
I can’t imagine that this will ever be solved.
I hope and pray it will be. It could only be one of 3 people to commit the crime and her old husband is first on the list, then Christopher, and then the boat Captain. I believe Natalie's old husband did it. No woman goes off a yacht or into the water alone at night. I've not watched one thing with him in it or on it since her death. She was beautiful.
RW responsible for her death period
RJ, not RW. . . .really!!!!!!!!!
He threw a woman who couldn't swim overboard. That's homicide.
@@patriciakatz7866 Did you see him do that? I'm not defending anyone but neither you or I was there and neither of us knows what really happened.
@@lizziepie3442 They're Early Reports. That She Was Pushed, Into A Life Boat. That Capsized. Causing Her To Get Tangled Up. Almost 40 Years Ago, Ending November. We Were Teens, But Have Never Forgotten. The Vibe Was He Did It, Just Unfortunately Got Away With It. Men's Justice. Not KARMIC JUSTICE.
Also check out the book "Goodbye Natalie Goodbye Splendour " by the researcher Marti Rulli.
Marti rulli is a fraud!
Marti rulli, Dennis davern and Lana Wood got together in a scheme to cash in on Natalie's tragedy. From Ms. Stacey.
Robert Wagner did it, it’s obvious
Noooo!!
Robert Wagner adored Natalie Wood. He could have accidentally killed her in a fit of rage (it was rumored that she was having an affair with Christopher Walken and Walken was saying Natalie should return to acting full-time (at dinner that night)). However, I believe Natalie and her husband was both drunk and arguing and she drowned when she fell in while trying to untie the rope attached to the life boat.
Go to youtube and watch her act the final scene of West Side Story. Her performance was Oscar worthy. She was a Hollywood treasure and we were all so shocked and saddened at her death.
It's been no secret for many years that Wagner is the #1 suspect, with no other viable suspects -- Walken and the yacht capt. having long ago been ruled out. What's the holdup in getting justice for Natalie?
Ditto
The hold up is money and fame. There's no proof decades later. I'd bet the house that Natalie had bruises on her upper arms. He likes to grab Women that way. All the way back to Alex Mundy and It Takes a Thief.
Only the good die young. The evil live to be a grand old age. Never liked either of those men, always found them to be false and creepy. Surprised at how many people I`ve been right about.
_@David Wang_
_1 hour ago_
_Yeah, all false and creepy men should be_ _indicted and that includes Donald Trump_ _you don't get much more false and creepy_ _than him_
Ok troll, you`ve been living in a cave diddling with yourself for too long. Your hero fiddler is pure evil.
As for the wonderful swamp drainer, it`s been proven that Killary made it all up about him. You only have to read her latest novel...not something I`d lower myself to do, but Private Eye mag reviewed it this month, with their sick bucket in hand.
Off course he killed her.. Was a bully etc towards her.. And I'd full off himself even now..
you don't know that. How would you like someone to say that without proof, to gossip about that. get real.
Another perfect example of how money can get you out of anything
Your right…
I'm always a little skeptical of "witnesses" ,
that show up 40 years later & that nobody knew existed it at the time.
Its called a cover up.
@@RoseSharon7777 No, it’s called pushing the value of a book up!
Always liked her. She played Gene Tierney's young daughter in Ghost and Mrs. Muir even.
I love that movie, I have a copy which I watch once a year
Same. She was also fantastic in Miracle on 34th Street
The Ghost and Mrs Muir was great
She also played the daughter of Bette Davis in the film, the Star. From Ms. Harper Stacey.
@@harperstacey9604 I haven't seen that yet - thanks for this. I will look for it
I remember this. I had just turned 13 years old.
I can't stand Robert Wagner. There is just something creepy about him.
And walken
Especially because soon after her death he was already dating someone new . His kids didn’t get a chance to grieve and he was already dating? Absolutely disgusting.
The story told about Natalie's death doesn't make sense. I think there's a lot of secrets and Robert Wagner's involved but has never told the truth and probably never will. Natalie's family deserves the truth. RIP Natalie.
Uh , Christopher Walken is still alive.
So is Robert Wagner...
I was the boat captain. I know what happened
@@waltersobchak7275 what happened????
@@vickimcleod4398 take the name in the second comment above and use your imagination. She wasn’t conscious when she was exposed to the water.
@@waltersobchak7275 really ? I mean every thinks that so why wasn't he arrested?
My ex fiance was around there in Catalina at the time. He was in the harbor and they were at the islip. Totally suspicious and Mr. Wagner has some explaining to do. It has been decades and its known she was assaulted.
I always thought Robert Wagner did it. He remarried so quickly too. Weird.
Yes, Natalie died in November and the next Feb he was seeing Jill St John.
He didn't remarry quickly. He waited 9 years to marry Jill St. John. From Ms. Harper Stacey.
@@harperstacey9604 THEY WERE TOGETHER SHORTLY AFTER HE BURIED NATALIE, THE WIFE HE MURDERED IN HIS TYPICAL JEALOUS NARRS DRUNKEN RAGES. WAS ALL SET TO MURDER WARREN BEATTY TOO. A RAVING PSYCHO FROM THE BEGINNING . EVERYONE WILL CELEBRATE THE CREEPS SOON TO BE DEATH. GOOD RIDDANCE TO BAD RUBBISH.
What I find odd is that I believe Natalie Woods star was brighter than Wagners. So why did the powers that be want to protect him rather than get to the truth about what happened to a major star?
Because she was GONE...He was still here. He had connections thruout the industry AND thruout Catalina local gov't and police...As we know, today, EVERY police Dep't will do certain "favors" for certain local "big shots"....That's Robert Wagner for sure...
God rest her soul in peace. Natalie will always be one of my favs
Yeah, Lana Wood was not a superstar, in the 70s or any other decade. I lived through the 70s, and I’ve never heard of her. Not saying her theories aren’t plausible, just, maybe, do some qualitative research with someone actually alive in the 70s before dropping inaccuracies about pop culture.
I somewhat regard her as the Jackie Collins of the family
I saw her in “Diamonds are Forever”
@@kristyhoward6897 Jackie Collins of the family? 😂😂😂 You are being kind. Jackie wrote some 30+ bestsellers, all original work, not ridding on other people's coattails.
@@susiex6669 Exactly!
One sister is known for writing, and the other famous for acting.
Talent notwithstanding..😉
There's no mystery. They were all hammered drunk. She likely later tried to leave the boat via the dingy and managed to instead fall into the water. Read the coroner's report and you will see that she tried hanging on to the side of the boat until she could no longer...and she drown. The only thing the others on the boat were guilty of is being too drunk/passed out to hear her if she called for help.
You’re exactly right - they have opened this case and dragged it out over and over and they can’t find anything.
That's what they thought happened. She's not here to confirm it.
I'll be honest, I don't know what to believe at this point because I don't know about the case, but... I've heard other people say the coroner said there was no water in her lungs like she drowned, but instead foam. It's possible she was drugged (or died from an od or something and they panicked) and was thrown over after her death. We may never know. Unless they decide to finally tell the truth. But I doubt it.
@@shannonstibor6967 You do know Natalie had a nasty blow to her head right? I think Wagner hit her. She may have been on the dingy crying for help. They were all very drunk. Walken was out cold. I believe then beat Captain. I think Wagner should have been found culpable in her death. At least a possibility of manslaughter or 2nd degree murder. They "claimed" she hit her head trying to get out of the dingy and onto the boat. I really think it was in reverse.
@@debbiefox6846 , bingo.
I think that this is how it went down. Robert wanted Natalie do have a 3 way with him and Christopher Walken. She probably "blew up" at the suggestion, and a verbal altercation broke out, and some sort of physical altercation as well. I have never doubted for one minute that Robert Wagner was responsible for Natalie's death.
I think there was something going on between Natalie & Chris. Walken & robt. Wagner her husband got jealous. beat her unconscious. Panicked & dumped her body over board & she drowned. She couldn't swim...
So you speculate on a story you feel is true. No proof and against type of Wagner or Walken. stop it.
@@KindCountsDeb3773 None of us really know what went on but we all have our suspicions there’s was foul play afoot It’s to obvious to negate
When you see Robert Wagner and Christopher Walken today you get scared. They look so old it's horrible.
Dave hanson has it right. Wagner and walken are psychopaths so they keep quiet about the event. Sex party gone wrong and she wasn't happy so she got fucked overboard in a rage. It was a narcissistic rage episode that ended tragically.
I always thought Robert Wagner was totally shady. I never liked seeing him on NCIS, he just was absolutely creepy, and out of his element. I can believe that maybe him and Chris Walken had a thing going, and it probably went 3 ways with Natalie involved too, a lot of celebs did that swinger thing back then. Swing activity was much more common than people realize, before the AIDS epidemic.
On a related note, I think William Shatner is shady as hell too, he had a wife that drowned in a swimming pool some years back, and I always felt that was the result of some kind of drunken fight between them where she ended up unconscious in the water. I know people worship Shatner like a god or an icon, but he just has an evil vibe to me, just like Robert Wagner.
I don’t think it was a three way thing at all. I’ve watched numerous cases analyses that were saying Robert was jealous of Chris and Natalie having a thing.
What Charlie said.
Also, I liked Robert Wagner when he was Young. I was such a fan of the Titanic movie from 1950s something... Then I found out about this... Changed my views yes
Totally disagree about William Shatner! He was devastated and loved his wife. I have met Mr. Shatner, just at a convention, he is the most genuine down to earth person.
The death of Natalie was suspicious and obviously something shaded happened but William Shatner's situation was totally different.
I never knew that about Shatners wife.
Just because he was nice and down to earth doesn't mean anything when it comes to murder. 🙄
So no-one is going to interrogate the other very famous actor who was on the yacht that night !. He has always said he will not talk about it " this is not a conversation I am about to have ". Both male actors on the yacht that night have had immensely profitable and successful careers until now . I guess that's Hollywood . And why I don't watch 'programming 'TV or movies anymore.
I Pray 🙏🙏🙏That they will find out soon what Really happened to this beautiful Woman❤️ R.I.P Natalie. We will Never forget you …
Saw her inperson a weekor so before she died. Natalie Wood was absolutely stunning. The camera really didn't do her justice...
I was very young when this happened but I always thought she was one of the most beautiful lady's I'd ever seen.Still think that.It was a horrible thing to happen and after all these years it still breaks my heart.I hope the truth comes out soon,as it should have then
She's just so beautiful! And i wish I could do my makeup like that 😍😍😍 both sisters
Rj of course killed her and Chris is a Walken coward!!!!!! How either of them can stand themselves is beyond me😳
Her own daughter says Robert Wagner did not kill her. I believe her.
How has Christopher Walken gotten away with staying silent about this?
Maybe he didn't see anything. From Ms. Harper Stacey.
Psychic Sloan Bella said that Natalie was accusing Robert Wagner of having an affair with Christopher Walken that night on the boat.
Wouldn't surprise me. Mr. Hart.
Nooooo....it was Natalie and Walken flirting with another and her husband Wagner was extremely jealous. They filmed a movie together her and Walken. Walken is innocent. Robert couldn't stand them two being friends.
I heard that too. Wouldn’t shock me, bet there is a lot of weird shit that goes on behind closed doors in Hollywood
She's not a psychic, silly 🤦
@@niapaulino3310 that was the cover story. Sounds just about believable but really Robert wouldn't have cared if he looked at her.
I heard that a girl and her friend were in an elevator and Robert Wagner got in and was flirting with the guy not the girl. He was standing very close and asked him if he was getting excited. The guy was caught off guard but swears he was being flirted with. I don't know if it's a true story but it sure sounded like it when I heard it.
Lana's theory that Wagner first knocked Natalie out unconscious, then tossed her overboard begs the question then of who the woman was who for the next 20 or so minutes screamed for help, as a woman earwitness on a nearby boat said.
Why didn't that earwittness try and help
It's all sus
Probably because none of that happened. As a young girl Natalie Woods was my favorite actress. But I always felt that she accidently fell overboard and drowned, reasons being that she had consumed either alcohol or drugs.
A woman on a nearby boat (Marylin Wayne) claimed that she heard cries for help. She just said she heard cries for help and did not specify a time - and even if she did specify a time - it makes no difference. It is not hard to deduce that the cries for help came when Natalie was still alive and stopped when she was knocked unconscious.
@@cheryl-annemonckton7835 The eyewitness was on another boat nearby. There was a party going on and it was dark.
Lana is trying to write these books for money it's disgraceful.
Robert Wagner is guilty, it’s obvious.
What kind of wood doesn't float?????????
I disagree
@@voozoo1606 😂
@@blackcrowvol2281 Luv ya, pal!! (>:
Natalie Wood was an Angel ... God bless her~
It's been 40 years. What do people expect? Somebody's iPhone camera having a video of Robert Wagner throwing her overboard? Ain't going to happen. It's long past putting this thing to rest.
Stunning revelation...?? Her sister has been saying this stuff for years. Lana Wood was never a Hollywood superstar. This is another old news, new presentation, story!
Gotta love rich privilege n Hollywood cover ups 🤢
Yup. The patriarchy.
To say that Lana was a superstar in the 70’s is a bit of a stretch!! She never achieved the fame that Natalie did.
She was always jealous of Natalie. From Ms. Harper Stacey.
@@harperstacey9604 you are probably right!! Natalie had real talent and she was very beautiful!! Much more beautiful than Lana!!
Robert Wagoner let her drown over jealousy. So obvious at the time.
She didn't drown. The coroner said there was no water in her lungs.
Why it take so long?????
My mother said back then that Wagner killed her :( my condolences to her and her family and friends 🙏
Another mumsies boy."My mother said,I never should, talk about Natalie Wood"