Marvel Fire Diversity Leader After Anti-White Racism Lawsuit - We’ve Won
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- Disney Marvel have once again found themselves in bad headlines, as it's being reported Marvel has fired 15 employees which include Junior executives involved in their disaster movies and shows as of late. Not only this but Disney Marvel has cancelled multiple MCU projects which all seem to be diversity based, which also comes following the civil rights complaint against Disney for anti-white male discrimination. Now why this is sad to see is because diversity doesn't make the projects bad, but it's Disney's fault for ruining many of the diverse MCU heroes movies due to bad storytelling.
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Fight discrimination with discrimination. What a dumb move.
I know right aha
@@thejessegrant please do a critique on Velma season 2 trailer.
@@thejessegrant Movie attendance peaked in 1933. After WW2, 3-channel free TV came along. But according to TV Guide, the most popular TV episodes aired in the 1950's, 60's and early 70's. Before cable-TV. Cable-TV kept TV alive with customer monthly bills paying for all the crap they never watched. Movies and TV are in secular decline. Moves and TV shows will never be "popular again." Same with horrible "pop music." That was just TV music. Now the entire Billboard Top-200 Singles list accounts for less than 5% of streaming music in the USA. TV and "pop music" were post-WW2 Boomer kid things. That's all over now. The "details" don't matter anymore.
The racism coming from the left is way worse than anything the right is doing these days. Woke people need to wake again I guess. Dream within a dream situation.😂
‘Its the marvel way’
I've noticed that Asian countries can release successful movies to a world wide audience without any diversity at all, just a purely homogeneous cast.
Proving people can identify with movies they aren't represented in.
Shogun is a perfect example!
Nobody ever asked for diversity in movies and nobody hated either. We just want good movies no matter how homogeneous the cast is
Please never discount the mindset of the American audience. We expect that from India, in America some expect diversity
Right. Bollywood has nothing but movies with homogenous casts.
it's BEEN that way for a Million years. ....just lately---- all the young'un's _THINK_ they have an "original idea" in the form of *"Get RID of old white men"* and subjugate the YOUNG white men (emasculation) .... but instead. They are just exporting a SPECIAL Brand of (race specific) _Hatred_ and calling it "justice"
------ they've been given the green light to just _Bully_ all the white men, *So they're doing it*
Diversity is killing movies….too much focus on box ticking, and this attack on white men is insane…
Diversity kills everything, diversity, even the not forced one is a great detriment to humanity itself as those who want diversity want everybody to change for them not for them to adapt to the environment they brought themselves in.
It’s driving people who just want to have a good time before going to work insane. Trust me, the average American is getting pissed off in the same way people trying to drive to work in the evening but protesters are blocking the road.
No business besides entertainment would say publicly, "We're upsetting the right people."
@@teastrainer3604yeah when I saw that, I immediately recognized the double standard. Anybody pushing DEI in the past should never be in the spotlight again
Culture war is killing culture. Works as designed.
You seem to be overlooking how all the “Diversuty”-pushers were constantly attacking the existing audience and preaching down to us about how they didn’t want us to come see their movies and enjoyed destroying the characters we loved.
It was very "in your face" or "we are not wanted at the theatre" or "I hope this passes the right people off". For that reason, I will never support "Diversuty" if advertised as such.
Right?!❤❤❤
Turns out the age of The Girl Boss was remarkably short and self-destructive...
Ahahaha
@@thejessegrant
I'll give you credit for giving these studios, particularly Marvel & Disney, a lot more goodwill than they deserve IMO. But nobody can say you didn't take the high road at this point.😌
Here’s the thing girls bosses work, if they focus on the plot, everyone loves terminator 1, predator, and the game Metroid, where all the main actors/character are women
Sara Conner wasn’t a “girl boss” in the first terminator. She was written like a normal person. That’s why movies used to be good.
@@jacobbowman2964 Yes because there was a journey to get there, not a Mary-Sue that everyone loves and is good at everything.
I'd argue that in many cases, "diversity" does make or break a movie. I, for one, am tired of 130-lb boss babes clenching their teeth and beating up men twice their size, medieval European sets with characters from downtown LA in the 21st century, etc. "Diversity" initiatives also hire unqualified writers, directors, and showrunners.
The worst is having a show in 16th century England with diversity. Even in the 1970s the country was as white as snow. Super cringe.
"diversity" very quickly leads into political propaganda, and it seems that every media form is littered with political activists as a result, instead of people who are actually qualified to work on these projects. the film and games industries are the largest of the mediums, and are quite arguably, affected the most.
But imho thats the point Jesse is making: the problem is puting diversity in first place, and thus hiring unqualified writers, directors, and showrunners who only have the right "politics". But a diverse cast or even diverse/feminist ideas can be in good movies , just as right wing ideas. IF one looks closely at House of the Dragon, The Boys, The Silo one can see diverse cast or even some ideas that could broadly called " leftist". But they are all first rate TV series. ITs just you must have a good story , care about it, thats all that matters. Not starting with political ideas that you want in your movie and your m"diverse" cast first , and then add some pulp story as aftertought. It sounds neboulous when i write it, but I can feel it easily when I watch a movie.
Kakistocracy is what "diversity" is based on.
The problem is that they always want forced diversity, not naturally occurring diversity, as in diverse ideas, personality traits, character backgrounds, life experiences, etc., it's all about race and gender now.
True diversity (which doesn't exclude the types of diversity mentioned above) is okay, and there are places where many cultures mix together and it's okay to have a movie accurately represent them, the problem comes when you try to force diversity in medieval Europe or in a movie based around a European folklore or mythology, they can't seem to accept the fact that some places only have white people in them.
Every time I see She-Hulk in the thumbnail, I think of another failure happened in Disney.
Ahahaha
@@thejessegrantNothing can save Disney and Hollywood right now. It's a case of too little, too late.
I won’t watch anything she is in ….same for Phoebe Waller Bridges.
@@brianmurphy250 And Jada Pinkett-Sith, REEEchel Zeghler, BREEE Larson, KatREEE Suckhoff, Whaman King actress, Assra Miller, Amber Turd...the list keeps getting longer and longer.
@markmunroe-hz8rf they won't change till daddy Blackrock tells them they can. Which they won't. Blackrock is trying to force thought.
Its not just diversity of the actors....its the hiring process for the writers and directors. The writers have no knowledge of source material and don't care....they just put their own activism into things.
Which is more damaging. The writers or directors need to like the source material, or it's all over.
*cough cough* Acolyte *cough cough*
Tatiana actually showed her true face on social media, no sympathy for her.
Oh really I didn’t follow her social media. What happened?
Yeah the things she said are definitely worse for her career than the show itself.
@@thejessegrant She basically insulted everyone who said She-Hulk was bad, with the already stereotypical "white men are shit" kind of retorts
What'd she say
I can't find anything, so can you share your source.
I disagree, diversity is now synonymous of bad writing, programming, pilots, etc.
Yeah but it isn’t because of diversity it’s really because it resulted in these studios being lazy and making absolute terrible movies
@@thejessegrantbut forced diversity in writing rooms is causing severe problems when it comes to the finished product. We need talent to come first, not ideology, gender or anything else.
Diversity may be a synonymous, but that was done by bad faith people who used as a shield of criticism instead of working in a natural way.
Like Jesse said, Diversity on itself is not a problem, the handling of is, the problem now is that bridges were burned and now it may take some time to actually rebuild that faith people have on Diversity not be the equivalent of box office poison and companies not go trigger happy calling people -ists and -phobes if a movie doesn't hit profits.
@@thejessegrant Yes but again, I have had enough with diversity. I want a story set in a determined place and I expect that people in said place act and appear in a certain way. You said it yourself, Black Panther was a great movie, but I wouldn't call it "diverse". It covered elements from all the African continent, so it's great that almost all character looked Africans, it helped with immersion. So again, unless a story is set in a place where lots of diverse people meet I don't want diverse people.
@@kef7109 BP was a garbage, ra*ist (accidentally to both races :D) movie. I agree with the rest of your comment.
Have we finally reached a tipping point? Are businesses finally listening after consumers began to walk away?
Maybe but we’ll have to see
i mostly just watch other films now which isnt marvel or dcu like there is reasons films like top gun did great compared to hero flick also.
Well you xan only loose so much money till investors start to freak out & that EGS money is drying up & investors are starting to become pissed just look at Disney there's basically a civil war going on & they begged the investors to save them to stop the hostile take overs & investors & the investors rejected them.
Plus the customers are finally reaching a point where their done with this crap shows across the board in Hollywood are being shut down in massive percentages & Disney is failing across the board at every level & has been loosing hundreds of millions with almost everything they launch & they just list around 18billion from streaming services while the company's that are just making good content are doing better than ever.
I think we're not to this point yet, at least for Disney, they just cancelled the most likely to fail to save money but the direction remain the same.
I learned that Iger wants to get into politics after Disney, so it's obvious that unless the board of directors suddenly start to oppose him, he will continue to virtue signaling to appeal to the """modern audience""".
I won't believe it until I see it... and then, not until I've seen it long enough to be able to perceive a pattern.
It was never just forced diversity. It’s also been packaged with them attacking fans for not appreciating the box checks and bad films, it’s the preaching, guilting, belittling of the errant audiences who they attacked repeatedly during each failure.
I'd like to argue that Disney won't be making any changes. They will say they will, then make more BS.
Oh my, actual consequences for making hypocritical garbage? that's rare.
I am actaully sad at the fact that there are talented actors/directors whose careers are damaged because of the arrogance of a few individuals who thought that if they slapped the "diversity" label on everything and cotinued to push THE MESSAGE. That it would automatically result in praise for these projects. But no, start making good movies first and talk about how diverse they are second.
So many sided with the people signing their checks and went in on the customers as well.
They deserve all the difficulties that come from that in an industry that relies on revenues from customers.
Yeah doctor strange should’ve been the leader of the avengers. I love Spiderman as much as any depressed white boy but he’s not a leader he’s the guy who shows up out of nowhere when the avengers need him and they think he’s an annoying jackass but work with him anyway
Ahahahaha
😂😂
I think they like him, even though they won't say
Dr Strange 2 should have been a horror movie. They scrapped that idea which is a shame. Imagine Dr Strange vs demon armies? I want to see him battle more supernatural threats rather than aliens and regular super villains.
In the Ultimates comics, the Avengers never took Pete seriously, even having Cap sees him as an annoyance, eventually having Pete killed and was not supported by the older heroes.
No matter what variant of him does, Peter Benjamin Parker is doomed for disaster
The hiring of the writers, showrunners, and producers have been a box-checking bonanza and that's part of the problem.
Lol Disney needs to sack their CEOs!
Those idiots are the problem!
the CEO is already stepping down
The diversity of incompetence back stage made 2023 one of the worst years for Hollywood in general. Too many political activists, and not enough genuine artists who give a damn about telling adventure stories.
You forgot to add that the actors were also attacking the fans.
Diversity kills quality
There’s a reason why people are cautious whenever a lead character is “diverse.” We’ve seen too many bait and switch, forced propaganda, and toxic behavior from creators. Fans are tired of the BS and now assume everything is woke until proven otherwise, and we can’t be blamed for that.
I'm no longer cautious. If they race or gender swap a character, I won't watch. I cancelled disney+ and I'm about to cancel Netflix. I should have a long time ago, just finishing The Last Kingdom which is a decent show.
@@juliusspartacus5437 Sadly I have to agree.......SOME....."diversity" products were not bad ( I liked Sense8, for example, and it is as "diverse" as something can get) but we have been served so much garbage lately that avoiding anything remotely conected to "diversity"-policies has become a mecanism of survival.
Exactly, most people don't hate shows because they're diverse we hate it because they use diversity as an excuse for lazy writing. They also force diversity when it just doesn't make sense. I loved Shang-Chi because they primarily used Chinese actors in a Chinese movie, they didnt just shove a bunch of different races into the hidden village because of diversity for diversity sake
Thor wasn't the main character in his own movie. It was Jane and Valkyrie's movie. It was definitely a "diversity" movie.
Same with Dr. Strange in Multiverse of Madness.
@@Zull-vh7nqThink you mean Scarlet Witch and the Multiverse of Dr. Strange's
Marvel and Star Wars are dead brands, 25 years from now maybe with a reboot could work
Not sure if it's purely because of lazyness. Diversity goes directly against merit. You need to check certain boxes so you cannot really hire someone who is best for the job.
diversity argument is the biggest bs of cinema/entertainment, how many movies prior to 2010 were great with blacks/asians/females whateva as main actors, almost any Will Smith, Eddie Murphys, Jackie Chan, Jet Lee, anything with Milla Jovovich or Angelina Jolie, etc. Suddently 2010+ they decided start to complain about whateva as excuses to get roles using the race/gender card
This is my personal point as to why I know these woke companies that always talk about “Diversity and Inclusion” actually DONT GIVE A CRAP ABOUT IT:
If they legitimately CARED about Diversity and Inclusion, they would actually make SURE THE PRODUCT IS GOOD!! Yet, every Movie, Show, Video Game, ETC. that’s been promised this way, HAS BEEN WOKE PIECES OF CRAP!! How do they expect us to believe that they care, when they don’t even care about the stuff they make?
D+I just means anti-white.
Give me an example of this woke pieces of crap you speak of. What to you made them "woke"?
@@dsexton72 Captain Marvel. Eternals.
@@dsexton72 In the future, all female X-men, all female Avengers.
@@dsexton72 You should know we can't even properly explain to you. YT is hiding and deleting comments non-stop. But you probably don't even know that.
15?
Nice start but I'm sure there is more fat to cut cause burning $140 billion since 2021 doesn't cut the mustard 😔😞
Yeah their losses since 2020 are crazy!
Thank goodness Elizabeth Debicki was treated with love and respect by Disney/Marvel, and I love her so much.
It's so hypocritical all these virtue signaling people don't complain about the lack of diversity and representation in Dhallywood, Follywood, Lollywood, Ghollywood, Swahiliwood, Riverwood, Chinawood, Chollywood, Aussiewood, and Hallyuwood, its almost as if the film industry of a certain nation will be approximately as diverse as the citizens of said nation.
I never understood why they went trying to make Eternals the next super team. West Coast Avengers was right there. Hawkeye, Vision & Scarlet Witch, War Machine.
You can introduce Tigra, Mockingbird, and Wonderman in set-up movies.
Agreed
West Coast Avengers! It's pretty much not going to happen now, not with She-hulk being so bad. Honestly, the writers and DEI people will just ruin it. I'd rather they not.
I’m not giving Disney my money ever again! I don’t even trust Deadpool 3!
Yeah time will tell. Hopefully Deadpool is good
@@thejessegrant exactly
@@ParkerCS2 If that Movie has James Marsden in it, You're Doing the Right thing by Skipping.
@@Suarez05 lol
Pretty sure the millions who paid to watch 'Finding Nemo' were not worried about "seeing themselves represented", but the film made a ton of cash.
Good stories sell.
This is 15 years late
Hollywood is over saturated with so called writers and directors. Very few people have the capability to produce a good movie. There is a saying, if you can't make movies, you make TV shows and if you can't make TV shows, you make porn. There are too many people who are only able to produce porn trying to produce movies.
Hollywood is likely also involved in the kiddy porn on the side imo. Rich elites own the cops so they never get caught. It's a corrupt world. Notice when Sound of Freedom came out you didn't see any hollywood actors getting behind the social justice movement to raise awareness for this hidden underground business exposing who are all the clients for the sex slaves?Because they are likely the ones involved in it when they sell out to the illuminati. They are trapped into going along with it in exchange for fame and fortune. You don't ever get to a position of power unless they have some dirt on you that lets them control you with blackmail footage for the rest of your life. Rappers and hip hop artists have tried to expose it for long time but normies don't want to hear about this. They just can't handle it.
Just because diversity is a good thing, it doesn't mean it makes the movie more entertaining. It should be promoted of course, but it can't be the only thing the film has going for it.
It’s not an inherent good. In fact, in society it has to be overcome if you want a high trust society
It's like spray painting a range of turds and painting M&M logo's on them, sure they look different and diverse, but they're still turds underneath and taste nothing like M&M's lol - it's quite evident in their press junkets, most of the time spent isn't about the movies story or the cast, it's usually spent talking up the "representation" or "diversity" and very little else.
Until Fiege is gone, there is no saving the MCU.
It's even more than that. They need a house cleaning.
It’s going to take a lot more than just Fiege.
And bring back ron word on the grapevine is that he was against the wokeness.
They drove away all the talented people.
So therefore there are NO good stories coming out of this DEI pithole anymore ...
Even Ghostbusters learned their lesson.
The new movies start right after the end of the 3rd movie, completely ignoring the 2016 shitstain.
I laughed out loud when you said you were going to offer hollywood solutions and strategies to fix the problem. It's not that they can't, it's that they won't. I'm an autoworker and I know enough to get out the lists of best living writers, producers, directors, actors, sound and stage, etc., and start going down the list trying to hire the best. Then, ignore the few but loud voices which don't want white men in leading roles nor portrayed as good and strong.
I love that Echo remained in echo chamber.
Blade 1 and 2 are great, better than that boring Black Panther, you know why because it was awesome.
It was. Snipes ftw! I don't think they could have created anything close to it, especially not with the new actor.
We're living at a time when the decision makers are, well, sort of blind or even borderline insane. Abstract and apart from reality.
I fear that bad movies will be the least of our troubles as this continues. But if we survive what's coming, people will be sane for a while. And so will entertainment.
Huge cataclysms can do that. They reduce people's values to what's real.
That went from making some good points to fanfic real fast.
Steve Rogers is Captain America! Sam Wilson is Falcon!
Yet, Sam has been Captain America in the comics before. And what about Isaiah Bradley?
Amazing how hubris turned everything on its head. At one point, to be linked to a marvel project was a career maker, and if there was friction or you were fired, it’d almost certainly mean you’re out of work for a while.
Now it seems the exact opposite. If your name is now linked to Marvel or Disney these days, it almost certainly mean career s**cide.
When an industry prioritizes "identity" over ability in its employees, quality always suffers.
Marvel plans four years or more ahead and I think it is already too late for Captain America Brave New World, Thunderbolts and Blade especially since it's coming from the same playbook and no matter how many reshoots it ain't going to fix the exact same problems that the Eternals and The Marvel's had.
I'd suggest that while it is still all about 'the message' - nothing will change.
Lol, the writers and producers at Disney certainly did not help with career's getting ruined. But I would argue that 70% of the reason that career's got ruined, was the actors and directors calling all there fans "incels" on social media. You know, the fans that pay to see movies? The thing that ultimately is the bedrock of keeping you employed? Naw, as far as I'm concerned, no sympathy. Everybody involved with making and promoting Larry Fink's woke trash can all go to hell.
Until they realize it’s crappy writing we don’t like, nothing is going to change no matter who you put up there…
What they are doing is the same as if a car dealer would sell ralley stripes as a speed upgrade.
Not much will change as long as Black Rock owns everything, they make the calls, they have the money.
This.
Kudos to Jesse for making the effort to be unbiased yet tell it like it is. It's turning out that the young adult demographic is not as "thought-programmable" as the media/entertainment clueless corporate types thought. This could be the beginning of a promising, hopeful trend in society. Hopefully.
Making a movie of women heroes that women never went to see and using second tier heroes doesn't guarantee all the marvel heroes are cash machines. This diverse agenda is a social agenda that doesn't make money because a personal view doesn't force me the viewer to go to the theater and buy all the collector's of the movies
The interconnectedness is a pretty big problem too. You can’t really just go see a marvel movie because it’s an episode rather then a movie and you’ll be showing up in the middle of the show if you want to watch one. Even when it doesn’t feel like showing up in the middle of a random season they infect each other with connection. It’s infected with soap opera’s curse. It’s worthless because there’s never gonna be an end. Politics is the obvious elephant in the room; but the fact that the franchise has structurally become garbage is a real overlooked problem.
One of the best qoutes regarding this is ”I don’t see race I see only colour”
People always forget artistic integrity. If you aren't true to the source material you will just piss fans off.
Can they fire some people in Locus Films too? Get some people in who respect the core material and have actually watched the previous Movies, Series and Comics.. Imagine basically turning "The Force" in to DC's "Speed Force" logic and then sh*tting all over Lore of the series.
SHUNG Chi was hot garbage and And so was bargain basement Black Widow. As for disney, they have not shown not one iota of evidence that they are changing their ways So, what they a fired a few people, thry still double down on the wokness. We are still getting woke fantastic 4. And woke Star Wars.
Woke X-men, with all women, no men. And they made Wolverine gay in X-men 97.
@@MakeYouFeelBetterNow Do we know Wolverine is gay? Morph might be but Wolverine? I don't think so.
@@dsexton72 In 97, they showered together. They were implying. In interviews with writers, they also implied.
@@MakeYouFeelBetterNow I remember Morph walking into open showers like in a gym, seeing Wolverine and making a comment but that's doesn't say much about Wolvie's sexual orientation. They seem to be really good friends but I think there is a lot of assumption here. Now granted, the man is over 100 years old. It is entirely possible he could've explored at some point in his life. And honestly, the way Sabretooth lashes out at him to hurt him, there's some question there, but I would still like some proof. If he is bi-sexual to a point, because we know he loves women, okay...that may be something to explore. But I would like to know for sure instead of assuming and going off of implications. Just a thought.
@@dsexton72 The showrunners were in an interview telling us what they were implying. You are OK with it, let's just say we don't agree?
Negativity in your public relations is a poison that doesn't leech out.
So, what makes a good story is a good story, and not the gender or color of the characters. And bad movies can damage an actor's career.
I'm so glad you made this video, I feel like I learned so much
Shang chi was a rough watch for me, and i’m a full blood native so i thought Diversity at the beginning might be a good thing but boy was I wrong. It took me multiple viewings just to finish Shang chi one time and I heard it wasn’t that bad.
Shang Chi is an Asian character in the comics, so what was bad for you?
Black panther was not a "great" movie
so brave
not you but for many others it was and that's ok. It did its job, hit the target and made bank. That isn't happening these days at Marvel. Wakanda Forever went away from what worked the first time and made feminism the focus. Masculinity was lacking in that film. Disney isn't for black men either, despite what many believe. Most of the LGBT representation in these movies are black people. That's not Disney respecting black people at all. It's pandering.
It was barely OK with lots of dumb moments. The only reason it did well was because we trusted Disney at that point.
@@Desalater2 the youtuber calling it great was far braver
i thought the first one was great. The second one was less good but it was fine.
They'll now appoint a BRIDGE officer.
Doesn't matter if Bob Iger is still in charge, in addition to their business model. The business model they have is to cast people for roles, they do not HIRE people to CREATE content. They are disrespectful to the fans, they just want people to consume product and wait for more product. You don't have to always copy from the source material when making an adaptation. However, what you have to do is keep the spirit of the work or characters. The best example of this is the LoRs Trilogy, what significantly deviates from the source material for the better.
Black Panther was NOT a “great movie.” It was mid, but media gaslit you (or you are trying to do same).
No I’d like to hope my channel shows I think for myself, and we’re all entitled to an opinion of course and in my opinion black Panther 1 was a great film that I thoroughly enjoyed. I’m yet to dislike any Ryan coogler movie
Black Panther was a great movie to most. If you thought it was mid, then that's your opinion. But accusing the media of gaslighting while you yourself is gaslighting is a bit hypocritical. Just leave it at you didn't like it and stop telling people they were brainwashed. Judging from these comments, all of us are to some degree. :)
@@dsexton72 No, most did not think it “great.” The FX were next to poor and the story was weak though pushed hard by the media. Great movies hold up. That movie doesn’t
@@CollaredConsulting Respectfully, that is your opinion just like I have one. In my "world", most did think it was great. I didn't understand all the hoopla at first but I did understand it from black folks whom felt that finally there was a black superhero on screen that represented them. Kinda like how all of you feel that things are too "woke" and there is a scheme against white men or white people in general with all this talk of diversity and inclusion as you feel white people are getting less represented?
So how that works? But I digress. In the context of a Marvel film, it was great. Maybe not the best one but definitely better than mid. However, I may be a bit bias. There haven't been a black-led superhero movie taken seriously since Blade. Meteor Man does not count...lol.
Personally, I think a lot of you have a hard time understanding how it feels to feel marganilized...not seen, taken seriously, taken as a human being or simply being felt to matter. Or maybe you do, because why else would there be such hatred to diversity and inclusion in projects that represent most, if not all of, American society and not just one particular group.
DEIsney = DIEsney and Marvel with them.
I think the most important thing is to diversify the industry itself. They've tried to "diversify" (rather change them as they please) every single film on average and exclude everything that's against them whether it's creators or fans. It makes the industry exclusive, so poor and boring now. I miss entertaining films from Hollywood.
It's amazing how we have to make the case that diversity doesn't equal good.
The world is healing.
Ahaha
You should stop saying that movies can still be diverse and good. When directors go into the production of a movie with the attitude "let's make this diverse and including", the intention of the project is switched automatically from trying to create a good story, to instead push a political message. What all directors should do, is try to create a good movie and story, and if a well writen character happens to be black or a lesbian women, doesn't matter, as long as a character is well written, no one will care.
Your listening comprehension is not very good.🤦♂️
Ahaha yeah I’m saying if you go into the story thinking the whole point of the story is diversity then it will suck but if you have a story to tell and it’s also diverse that’s great
The problem they’ve created for me is, even if a diverse character is there on merit and does fit the narrative, my brain is automatically thinking “woke diversity hire” and they have created that in me, something that never even crossed my mind before. Their plan has had the opposite effect of what they were trying to achieve!
I think you worded this beautifully man. Its so hard to talk about this without people just processing it as "you just hate diversity in media"
When a company decides to launder money, it's product and services immediately go down the toilet and they no longer need the support of the consumers.
First
Appreciate the support man!
Fun fact..... When you are actually first, you are also the last. That's how that particular moment works.
Toodle oo.
Oh hey all those rules and laws we made over the years, oh yeah...
No, Daisy Ridley was bland Af. I wonder how she got cast in Star Wars. The one that really got his career ruined is John Boyega.
There are decades of comics full of good stories in the MCU... Why don't they source from them???
And the DEI chart of Disney cant produce a good story, in a credible world due to the quotas required for representation.
I just get mad when they replace the characters with someone not remotely similar
They whined all they wanted but shut up when reality hits. Dreamers.
No, we've merely begun. The board was the one's who hired them in the first place, so until all are fired, they will try again.
All focus on box ticking & no focus on box office.
The ability to automatically dismiss criticism against something based on some get out of jail free card characteristic like diversity, while also potentially destroying the critic, reduces pressure to do that thing well. It's this we should be fighting against: a world where criticism can be dismissed without investigation. It's free speech that is in peril here. Nothing less, nothing more.
The worst part is that the problem they're fighting with their obvious and blatant racism is largely imaginary. I certainly never heard anybody saying that the Blade movie was garbage because the main actor was black or that Alien was a crappy horror movie because the protagonist was a woman.
Morgan Freeman, Wesley Snipes, Eddie Murphy and Jackie Chan didn't seem to have suffered from discrimination if their career is anything to judge by.
They've invented a problem to justify their jobs and now they're riding industries down in flame to keep them.
Didn't think marvel would try to do something like this.
Well maybe this mean the beginning of better movies? Not going to hold my breath though, if life has taught me anything you should never expect happiness at all, it has to be earned.
HR has been lost. Nothing can truly fix the company until HR has been reclaimed
12:12 Dude, simply telling a "good story" isn't enough for a movie to be memorable and rewatchable.
I really think the problem lies with them trying to push out as many movies as possible in the shortest amount of time. Anytime a project is rushed, it’s going to be terrible. Just ask James Cameron what it takes to make a great movie and story.
This is probably accurate.
Seems like that didn’t work because they still pull this card after acolyte flopped.
Honestly there was at least one good Eternals to tell about the Eternals but the way they executed pretty much everything about the movie destroyed that potential.
The people who wrote Morbius got more jobs. So will these people
Considering sequels to movies that lost hundreds of millions of dollars each just speaks to how their politics run the company. Don't care if they cancel them, they'll just ruin something else.
A journey is only fun when there's a destination in sight. We can't go on forever watching superheroes.
Very true
The problem is that they hire diversity all across the board instead of talent and experience. Every movie doesn't have to have DEI characters and DEI Crew and DEI write staff...just get the best f'ing people for God's sake. And as far as destroying careers...they read the scripts.
I think Tatiana Maslany's comments had as much to do with the failure that was She-Hulk as the writing did.
The actress that played she hulk, Daisy Ridley, Bree Larson, Leslie Jones, Rachel Zegler, etc Disney, Marvel, Lucas entertainment, etc may have been partially to blame. But none of these people helped their carriers when they decided to attack the fans/customers. They brought that hate for them on themselves.
The biggest problem with a lot of Disney movies atm for me, is they read like bad fanfics, I mean in dialogue, storytelling, jokes, the lot. If you look at some of these movies and shows, they have good ideas, but then the idea is handed over and the dialogue and scripting, everything is done wrong.