@@willparry530 I think i figured it out, I watched the video then clicked on the reply. I think that loaded an updated time, while the original comment stayed the same.
3:55 aaaah collective party thick headedness. It can take hours on end to figure out even the simplest of puzzles no matter how many hints the DM drops. YIRBEL LIVES!
"There's no way he'll make the counterspell check" > says he optimised the characters, they're level 5, so they've probably got a +5/+6 to the counterspell check. > level 7 spell means the DC check is 17 Never mind a nat 20, all either of the counterspellers needed was a nat 11/12...
Although I love counterspell I do think it should have been worded like the mizzium apparatus where the DC is 10+2*spell level so a 7th level spell would be a dc24 to counter. As it is it is super-powered and I like that about it... Until it is used by a creature with a +17 arcana check and my 8th level spells are countered on a Nat 1
Imagine that Wizard’s tombstone after the fight (if there was anything left to bury that is): “Crushed by an adult sperm whale falling on top of him from several hundred feet in the sky.”
I lost mines, I was playing a Blue Dragonborn Tempest Cleric, my first time playing the class, so the party has decided to climb up to a ledge, to outflank some Goblins, so my Dragonborn goes first, I roll a Nat 20 on the Athletics check and effortlessly ascend to the ledge, what I didn't spot was the BugBear standing on the ledge, boom Dubble Crit and my Cleric who had 11 hp took 33 damage ... I was dead, dam :( what made this funny and worse was, this was the first session and the first enemy encounter.
My parties: *Forgets they have access to what they need to get out of a sticky situation.* These parties: *Does crazy things that sometimes works.* You take risks, we just mess up. We are not the same
Ehhhh..... I think that first one could have been resolved with a "your party is knocked unconscious, to be fed to the spiders" might have been an amusing jailbreak arc. I think just killing them all was a waste.
My drow bard always wanted to kill a surface elf and had been denied the whole campaign. While fighting Tiamat our high elf cleric was just yoyoing up and down making the bard heal him. So she dimension doored him 500 ft up and then polymorphed him into a whale. Causing massive damage to Tiamat and when she was the last person standing, she used herself as the whale. killing Tiamat by sacrificing herself.
My party's sorcerer turned himself into a sperm whale to pin down a dracolich. That creature used all his legendary actions trying to escape while we kept attacking with all we had. Eventually it got free, but it was pinned for almost 2 rounds of combat
Never been a DM before but is it just me or is he 100% responsible for what happened and just felt like killing a nooby grupo. 1. They were level 5 it was a 50-50 chance of success for counter spell to work( like all he need was between 10-12 roll for success. 2. He could have made some changes in the story like there knock out or capture to feed the spider or something more creative then just killing them.
Silly spell effects like polymorphing into a sperm whale needs to be analyzed, it is not broken as a spell, I would say that more than just a passing familiarity with a form so far removed from their original form should be required. The size discrepancy seems a bit of a stretch to me as well. 3x the mass or even 5x the mass I would suggest as being a range limit in gaining size or mass is slightly more believable. Also did this sorcerer have a death wish? Surely this is a form of insanity, and should be determined by previous role playing or at least determined by a statement of “its a last ditch effort to save those I love” and then a roll to determine their resolve, etc… those are just suggestions for a slightly more believable experience. I don’t want to sound like a kill joy, but stretching believability into infinity breaks immersion in my honest opinion.
Im confused now. Like I'm really behind on DnD and i don't know wth is going on. So can someone pls explain as precisely as possible: What is Dungeons and Dragons
It would fall under improvised damage. The DMG has a table in chapter 8, Combat. Dropping a whale on someone I'd say falls under the example of being hit by a crashing flying fortress. That means 18d10 damage to the enemy and the whale. Then an additional 10d6 damage to the whale for falling (to encourage this not to become the dominant strategy for every encounter). So an average 99 damage to all enemies, save for half, hard to dodge so DC 20 Dexterity save, auto grapple and prone on any who fails the save (because they'd be stuck under a whale). That's an average of 134 damage to the whale. Quite survivable, since it has 189 hit points. Enemies pinned under the whale have complete cover, but also a whale on them. So escape the grapple or take 10d10 damage (comparable to being "crushed by compacting walls") at the end of their turn. It's how I'd rule it, based on the actual rules of the game. :P
@@kamirostorino9416 I would say it is up to the DM overall but a scroll is a magic item that doesn't require material, somatic or verbal components, so just like you can't counterspell a sorcerer's silent spell that doesn't require those components then I would rule you can't counterspell a scroll. But that's at my table
@@kamirostorino9416 or just make every bbeg have silent spell or make it innate magic like a slaad. It is up to you if you want to let it happen at your table, I just wouldn't. Scrolls cost a stupid amount, a scroll that lets them escape is thousands of gold, I wouldn't counterspell a scroll the party spent stupid amounts of resources on, so setting that line seems better to me. You should also keep in mind if the bbeg can afford something like that and only give them scrolls if they were really powerful or wealthy
TL;DW Newbie party casts Counterspell, stops BBEG from leaving via Teleport. Ensuing fight is way too much because of bad rolls and worse decisions. TPK
"The Cleric didn't bother to prepare any healing spells that day."
...okay.
...Hasn't spontaneous casting of healing spells been a thing for (good) Clerics since 3.5, just so that doesn't happen?
@@LORDOFDORKNESS42 I don't understand youtube. The comment is 12 mins old, and the reply is 26 mins old for me?
@@joshwalker8984 weird
@@LORDOFDORKNESS42 as far as I know, yes.
@@willparry530 I think i figured it out, I watched the video then clicked on the reply. I think that loaded an updated time, while the original comment stayed the same.
Saw the title and thought, "well, now I'm intrigued."
same
3:55 aaaah collective party thick headedness. It can take hours on end to figure out even the simplest of puzzles no matter how many hints the DM drops. YIRBEL LIVES!
indeed
Me to daughter: "oh, I HAVE to watch this: 'How My Group TPK'd Themselves With Counterspell'."
Her: "Yeah, that sounds like something we would do."
"There's no way he'll make the counterspell check"
> says he optimised the characters, they're level 5, so they've probably got a +5/+6 to the counterspell check.
> level 7 spell means the DC check is 17
Never mind a nat 20, all either of the counterspellers needed was a nat 11/12...
Exactly my thinking... possibly even a nat 10.
There's no way they could succeed a 50% chance
Although I love counterspell I do think it should have been worded like the mizzium apparatus where the DC is 10+2*spell level so a 7th level spell would be a dc24 to counter. As it is it is super-powered and I like that about it... Until it is used by a creature with a +17 arcana check and my 8th level spells are countered on a Nat 1
Imagine that Wizard’s tombstone after the fight (if there was anything left to bury that is):
“Crushed by an adult sperm whale falling on top of him from several hundred feet in the sky.”
oh yeah, definitely loving these new art styles over the old ones, I don't say that enough.
I lost mines,
I was playing a Blue Dragonborn Tempest Cleric, my first time playing the class, so the party has decided to climb up to a ledge, to outflank some Goblins, so my Dragonborn goes first, I roll a Nat 20 on the Athletics check and effortlessly ascend to the ledge, what I didn't spot was the BugBear standing on the ledge, boom Dubble Crit and my Cleric who had 11 hp took 33 damage ... I was dead, dam :(
what made this funny and worse was, this was the first session and the first enemy encounter.
At that point I feel like DM/Divine intervention was necessary.
My parties: *Forgets they have access to what they need to get out of a sticky situation.*
These parties: *Does crazy things that sometimes works.*
You take risks, we just mess up. We are not the same
I'm surprised they didn't make a Hitchhikers guide to the Galaxy joke with the player turning into a sperm whale
Hello, ground and everything on the way! We're gonna make soup together!
A shame they didn't have a second player there to turn into a bowl of petunias.
Need more “what the fuck just _happened?_ “stories!!!
If you have never counterspelled healing word, you aren't a proper DM
Whaleomancy, I've seen this dark art before...
lol
Ehhhh..... I think that first one could have been resolved with a "your party is knocked unconscious, to be fed to the spiders" might have been an amusing jailbreak arc. I think just killing them all was a waste.
I just finished reading this story on your subreddit can't wait to see it in video on your channel
Did anyone see the potted flower with the whale?
Ah yes the summon bigger fish spell.
WotC seems to want players to move away from counterspell, newer statblocks having abilities that are 1-to-1 spells, but not casting them.
at level 1, a fellow player crit my PC with a guiding bolt as I was about to ambush one of the bad guys.
Where there's a whale, there's a way!
and there is _definitely_ a whale, so there's definitely a _way._
My drow bard always wanted to kill a surface elf and had been denied the whole campaign. While fighting Tiamat our high elf cleric was just yoyoing up and down making the bard heal him. So she dimension doored him 500 ft up and then polymorphed him into a whale. Causing massive damage to Tiamat and when she was the last person standing, she used herself as the whale. killing Tiamat by sacrificing herself.
That sperm whale story sounds hell of a lot better than the newer Star Wars movie
Hi, guy several sessions into his first D&D campaign here. We have yet to see hide or hair of brothels or drugs, and we don't want to.
They got stuck between a whale and a hard place.
Also the minibbeg should have also used counterspell
My party's sorcerer turned himself into a sperm whale to pin down a dracolich. That creature used all his legendary actions trying to escape while we kept attacking with all we had. Eventually it got free, but it was pinned for almost 2 rounds of combat
There is no Nat 20 auto pass for skill checks!
*_" Wooow that was so awesome! Thanks for letting us do that, DM. "_*
*_" You're Whalecum! "_*
Never been a DM before but is it just me or is he 100% responsible for what happened and just felt like killing a nooby grupo. 1. They were level 5 it was a 50-50 chance of success for counter spell to work( like all he need was between 10-12 roll for success. 2. He could have made some changes in the story like there knock out or capture to feed the spider or something more creative then just killing them.
the counter spell cannot work on scroll / magic items
Well well how the turn tables.
yup
Silly spell effects like polymorphing into a sperm whale needs to be analyzed, it is not broken as a spell, I would say that more than just a passing familiarity with a form so far removed from their original form should be required. The size discrepancy seems a bit of a stretch to me as well. 3x the mass or even 5x the mass I would suggest as being a range limit in gaining size or mass is slightly more believable. Also did this sorcerer have a death wish? Surely this is a form of insanity, and should be determined by previous role playing or at least determined by a statement of “its a last ditch effort to save those I love”
and then a roll to determine their resolve, etc… those are just suggestions for a slightly more believable experience. I don’t want to sound like a kill joy, but stretching believability into infinity breaks immersion in my honest opinion.
Does anyone know how to submit a story to this guy on Reddit. I been trying for six months now.
They have a specially devoted subreddit, but they also trawl other DnD story sites for content, as well.
@@willparry530 How does one become this devoted subreddit? Do you know?
@@amoctheflock1364 there's a link to it in the video's description.
@@willparry530 I Thank you
@@amoctheflock1364 np
1.3k??
Im confused now. Like I'm really behind on DnD and i don't know wth is going on. So can someone pls explain as precisely as possible: What is Dungeons and Dragons
Chaos.
Isn't the rule "1d6 for every 10 feet the object fell"?
Edit: yeah, no. I'm dumb. Wrong rule.
It would fall under improvised damage. The DMG has a table in chapter 8, Combat. Dropping a whale on someone I'd say falls under the example of being hit by a crashing flying fortress.
That means 18d10 damage to the enemy and the whale. Then an additional 10d6 damage to the whale for falling (to encourage this not to become the dominant strategy for every encounter). So an average 99 damage to all enemies, save for half, hard to dodge so DC 20 Dexterity save, auto grapple and prone on any who fails the save (because they'd be stuck under a whale). That's an average of 134 damage to the whale. Quite survivable, since it has 189 hit points.
Enemies pinned under the whale have complete cover, but also a whale on them. So escape the grapple or take 10d10 damage (comparable to being "crushed by compacting walls") at the end of their turn. It's how I'd rule it, based on the actual rules of the game. :P
You can't counterspell a scroll or magic item as far as I know
i think you can counterspell a scroll... you still casting the spell from the scroll you just are not using a spellslot for it...
@@kamirostorino9416 I would say it is up to the DM overall but a scroll is a magic item that doesn't require material, somatic or verbal components, so just like you can't counterspell a sorcerer's silent spell that doesn't require those components then I would rule you can't counterspell a scroll. But that's at my table
@@murderous1823 well in that case Scrolls are OP especially as a means for BBEG to escape
@@kamirostorino9416 or just make every bbeg have silent spell or make it innate magic like a slaad. It is up to you if you want to let it happen at your table, I just wouldn't. Scrolls cost a stupid amount, a scroll that lets them escape is thousands of gold, I wouldn't counterspell a scroll the party spent stupid amounts of resources on, so setting that line seems better to me. You should also keep in mind if the bbeg can afford something like that and only give them scrolls if they were really powerful or wealthy
DM: "I'm trying not to warhammer this."
Meanwhile, makes all the characters and forces players to make smart decisions or die...
That was a WHALE of a story
I haven't come this early since my first real grilfriend
Your wizard BBEG should have just counterspelled back. Encounter fixed.
That was a very long and boring story. Not even sure what happened after listening to it.
TL;DW
Newbie party casts Counterspell, stops BBEG from leaving via Teleport. Ensuing fight is way too much because of bad rolls and worse decisions. TPK
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