For everyone watching this video this is my truck and I had the privilege of meeting RICH today and that was by far the best experience I have ever had at a dealership.Rich is a true professional at what he does and he even took the time out to come out and talk to me a while and explain it should be done. I just want to say thank you again Rich and please keep doing what you do, we need more people in this world like you and to anyone needing service and need it done right the first time go see Rich at Dundee Ford you’ll be happy you did. I WANT TO SAY AGAIN THANK YOU for everything. And have a blessed day
Now I do wish more would follow this model of service excellence. 👍👍 I’ve got one of those lifetime this and that kind of vehicles I’ve never bought that nonsense!!!
I’m shocked that the hardware identified as hardware living in the rust belt. I love how honest you are & how you teach us. Thank you for sharing your knowledge.
Thank you Rich for continuing to remind us about the necessity of maintaining the PTU on our vehicles. It has amazed me the terrible appearance of the lubricant in the unserviced and failed units from your previous videos.
They smell as bad as they look, I changed my PTU fluid on time and it was black. My local ford dealership said they couldn’t change the fluid, so I bought a hand pump and did it myself.
What a monstrosity to service. It's what you get when you cram as much hardware into a fwd platform. Excellent work as always by the Ford tech. Good luck finding someone as dedicated as this man
I bought a 2017 Police Interceptor Sedan (Taurus), and it had this model PTU shown in the video. This video helped me immensely despite some minor differences in the surrounding components, just wanted to drop a comment and a like. Much appreciated. I was thrilled to see pretty decent looking gear oil come out when I got the drain off. So glad it wasn't the goopy mess I've seen in other videos. Probably won't need to touch it for 30k as you stated, just glad I don't have to worry about it anymore.
I bough a 2017 Explorer used and the service dept. told me it was life time fluid and they wouldn't change it. I traded the explorer back in the next week and picked up a two wheel drive 2017 Expedition, more money, same mileage, less headaches.
Wow! Takes dedication to do that job! Well done Sir! makes me glad for my Maverick with a 4 banger. I can service the PTU in 15 minutes while I am under there doing an oil change! But , I'd be willing to pay to have this done. As an old mechanic, I can see the value in this service! If I had an Explorer, I'd pay for this work. Its important!
I can’t believe my ford dealership told me the PTU was “not serviceable” brought it to a friend we screwed off the drain and fill plugs. Changed the fluid. Put fresh fluid in and been good to go. Such a simple job and can’t believe they don’t want to service it…
I had a car with a non-serviceable transmission and went to the dealer and asked for a drain and fill. They kind of looked at me weird, but they still did the service. This was back when their service department was still decent.
I still want to backhand the engineer that never put a drain plug in the ptu...how much extra cost to have then cast a hole and machine threads in....hell use a oil pan drain bolt
I do the drain and fill when I do the water pumps on the Police utility, we have the 3.7 n/a in our fleet. Figure I already have the engine on the table, might as well change the ptu fluid.
Don't get me started in the damn water pumps in the 3.5. What moron engineer decided it was smart to put the water pump inside the damn engine?!?! 😳 instead of just unbolting it and bolting a new one on when it starts weeping, nope. Tear the whole front end off the motor, may as well do chains, tensioners, phasers, etc when you're in there, because they'll be next.
We have had some go to the dealer under warranty but the majority of the water pumps we do in the shop are coming in around 80k plus. But you have to remember they have a ton of idle time which puts a significant wear on the engine.
This man does a fantastic job and he is a A+ mechanic I’m sure, but there’s a much easier way to do this. Instead of pulling the catalytic converter and messing with the sensor, you can drain the oil out through the drain plug and refill the unit through the vent hose, which is top side. What makes this a whole lot easier is putting the oil in a warm pan of water and warming the oil up before you pour it in. It does take about 30 minutes to drain the oil in but it’s a whole lot better than pulling out all those parts.
I have even taken these out and saved them. They get sludged out like crazy from low fluid. A clean out and new fluid does wonders. You learn a lot working on the transmission side of things
"My" dealer refused to service my flex ptu, even after I explained how it could be done. So now a great independent garage gets all my service work. It wasn't as complex as that Explorer, and I would have paid an hour or so labor, but they are unable or unwilling to think outside the book. Now I question if I got trans service and spark plugs I paid for a couple of years ago. All the dirt was still around the coil packs... Yeah that's the kind of work that f' s it up for the rest ...
No service required, BULL PUCKEY. Thank you Rich. Had I not watched a previous video of yours on doing this I would have never done it. Coolant and trans services every 30,000 along with the PTU.
It's so frustrating! I have the "shop manual" access for most makes & models and almost all of them say "no service needed" for transmissions and PTU's so they don't give any specs, nor anything useful as far as fluid replacement
@@tt6518 I use the public library access. They have manuals for most makes and models and the best part is they are online so I don't have to go to the library, just have to have internet access
@@WJHandyDad hello, Haven't thought to try this option until you mentioned it, thanks for sharing with us . Would you have an internet link please , I would like to try it too. Thanks. Tigo.
@@tt6518 unfortunately there isn't 1 link. You need to find your local library link, get a library card (I know it seems stupid if you're just accessing their online content, but they require it) and then access it from your local library
@@WJHandyDad OK , I guess it will be difficult for me to access an US library as I'm not living within your country. Thanks for getting back with this great info , will keep it in my head anyhow. Good weekend to you. Tigo
Similar to the transmissions, can’t you just use the PTU vent hose to refill it? That way you don’t need to remove anything. As long as you measure what comes out, you know how much to put back in.
There is another ford Tech I watch, that has a way to change the PTU oil without pulling the exhaust or temp sensor. He just puts and extension hose on the PTU vent line to bring it up above the engine to add the oil back in.
I’m about to replace the PTU temp sensor on my 2015 explorer interceptor 3.7 67k miles, (I just bought this thing in an auction). The code is p182d transfer case temp sensor circut high. I hope this fixes it . Thanks for this video it helps out a lot.
I had this argument back in 2018 with my fellow colleagues and the shop manager. I told them just as you said about the fluid being "lifetime" is bullcrap and if we are going to be bragadochious about being a full service dealership then we must perform this service regardless what the book time calls for, I'm one for ensuring my customers are more knowledgeable and proactive about what they need serviced because I care.
🇺🇸❇⚓🔩⚓❇🇨🇦.....Happy belated Ford Friday from down here in the Charm City & Chesapeake Bay area Admiral! Similiar 2 crown vics in recent years the Explores carry that powerful intimidating image used by law enforcement.....Quite an SUV I must say hope the windy city well sir/senor!....
Just love how Stealerships will not do 2-3 hours of actual work (cause billable labor), but will make you wait 2-3 hours for gravywork because that represents “structured” production. I don’t have a PTU, but fluid pullers / pumps for $200 invested to do it myself and service my car(s) paid for itself like second use. Definitely better than getting told whimsical tales about how things are non serviceable because “it’s difficult”
What kind of services and how often and how expensive are the questions you have to ask and have answered before purchase. "You just have somebody willing to do the work who knows how to do the work". Finding that special person is not easy. Good vid. thanks.
I want to see this done to a 2018 non turbo. Mine has the sport appearance package, so it has larger brakes ect, not sure if mine has a drain and fill plug. Havent had time to look.
Did this exact same service to my wife's 2019 Explorer Sport when it was at 50K kms. She was watching me do it too. Now to figure out how to do her rear diff service...
When servicing the PTU, what indicators are we looking for when the PTU is starting to go bad? Metal in the oil etc? Just got a 16 sport 150k miles, so I'm starting to do my research for things that might eventually be a problem. Are there any other recommendations?l with respect to preventative care?
I'm planning to have the PTU on the wife's Escape serviced if/when they get the replacement 6F35 transmission possibly sometime in October (new date they gave me).
The PTU on my 16 Lincoln MKC was much easier than that. I asked Ford to service it when it was there for an oil change, they said no that doesn’t need to be done so I did it myself. The half a quart of oil that’s in it was so black and broken down after only 36000 miles.
I don't do that, of course I know you can I just showed that method on a new trans I installed on a 2016 escape - I don't always use that method You are talking to a pro that teaches this stuff lol.....what did you think you were teaching me here?
The dealership should sell this service as routine at the 35,000 MI Because by the time they reach 75,000 MI the unit is toast. And that goes for Lincoln's as well. Rich doesn't tell us how much it costs but even if it's 300 bucks it's worth doing. The dealership quotes a replacement parts and labor about $2,500. So if you keep the car for 100,000 miles you might have spend a thousand dollars keeping the unit in good shape. It's not a good design in the first place but there it is
Gonna have to send this to some mud mower guys,might be great for use in those for an interesting project. Also the most that's being pushed thru a mower is like 30hp ,most are 20 or less.
That's because your drain on your Edge is in front of the cooler pump so you just remove the pump to drain everything and then you put it back and then you fill through the fill hole above it
@@FordBossMe I know they all have differences across the platforms and some have drain and fill plugs and some don't. Like you said, the PTUs that were made to be serviceable have the access and can be done in 30 minutes. There are others that don't have easy access, or you need to be creative to access them. It would have been nice if Ford just put Haldex units in all of their vehicles instead of PTUs....
I would like to see a video for an explorer xlt with the 3.5 non turbo, one that does not have a drain plug, just a fill plug. Non water cooled one. Is there room to suck the fluid out of the fill hole without removing the exhaust?
Michelin defenders are OK tires but energy and primacy are alot nicer tire our tech told us when he installs them for people, with the 30 day free test, he gets alot of comebacks from Primacy owners that went down to the defenders and within an hr came back, Nope get me primacy
How do you determine the fluid level? I know you can come somewhat close by measuring the amount that drains out and just refilling with that amount, but that method assumes a lot of things I don't think we can really assume.
@@gcraig0001 I drained everything out into a measuring cup ... made sure it was close to amount that it holds and added just a little extra as I went back in milliliters extra.
We have a 2013 Interceptor Utility (Explorer) that we purchased three years ago, took it to the local dealer and they wouldn't do the service, found a local transmission shop that charged me over $300 and took them the better part of the day. TH-cam is your friend, looked and found the vent fill hack. Takes a while to fill though the vent, and I maybe a little off on topping it up but that's better than not doing regular changes every 30,000 miles. I since found a private shop that does the job for $100 plus materials. I've waited and watched the service and they seem to be very knowledgeable and professional. I knew at one point how much the PTU held but have forgotten, also Ford has change the fluid spec a couple of times and now I buy the fluid exclusively from a dealer.
someone needs to make a drain plug with a check ball or shut off in it so you could push fluid in to match what drained off. close as damn is to swearin... to a regular service
Thanks for the video! Is it common to have the lower drain plug on the PTU stripped out and extremely stuck in there? I wanted to change the fluid but can't get past the drain plug.. 3.7 police explorer. Probably have to drop the cat and weldor something. very little room there
@@waltertaylor9615 I ended up having to replace my unit.. However, not to be defeated, i still removed the stripped plug. I drilled a large hole in the plug, screwed in an extractor, and welded it on there.. it did come out. Just welding a bead to a nut was not going to cut it. yours might not be as stuck though
@@CREATINELUSTER Thanks for your response. So I picked up 2ft of 5/16 fuel line along with 5/16 brass coupler fitting and took my 3.7 to a local shop for ptu drain & flush and had tech extend the vent tube so I can refill it from the top next time around. Hope everything works out for you as well.
Hi, I just replaced the PTU on my 2016 Explorer Sport. It has the Police Interceptor PTU that comes with the external cooler which attaches to 2 coolant lines. Do you have any advice on how to get the coolant lines back into the cooler once the PTU is installed? I cannot seem to get them to seat back into the housing. Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
I don’t believe they care once past 5/60… as long as they can service it during regular warranty. Can’t blame manufacturers because the DOT and towns use salt plus brine in such high concentration and drivers do not clean the undersides of their vehicles daily but they drive them daily . I work at a Highway dept out town trucks are miserable to work on by year number 5 , it’s all we do is work on rusty trucks and police cars pickups …
Ford recently estimated over 800 to remove Cat converter, Y-pipe, and driveshaft front flange, for drain and refill. SMH. FORD (Found on the road dead!) Ford
My wife has a 2017 AWD Lincoln Continental. The dealership said the PTU couldn't be serviced just like you mentioned. Do you know how difficult it is to do on a Continental? I searched TH-cam and found zero videos on that platform. You and FordTechMakuLoco have good videos on Escapes, etc that I can use but do you know if the Continentals are the same, or do they have any unique challenges I might face? Thanks in advance Boss Man!
Shame on ford, life time fluid, no such thing folks, they would much rather you pay for a new ptu and repair all the damage it causes when it explodes. My 17 escape is a piece of cake compared to this. Well done Rich
@@FordBossMe the last and newest Ford I had was. 90 ranger. Was 2wd. Had the bullet proof 2.3 anemic engine. Should never have sold it a few years ago. It owed me nothing. Had 310k on the original engine and got 25mpg and I redid the AC (134 conversion) and it got so cold you could hang meat in that can even here in the HOT SC summers!
I thought I may have seen a video that the PTU's on the Taurus' are easier to get to than uninstalling the converter. That you just need a ridiculously long socket extension and a standalone vacuum to suck the fluid out. True? Not true?
Great info as always! What is your opinion on these body style explorers to current? Which engine is best option? My parents are intrested in possible purchasing one. And they would perfer a 4 wheel drive one. Are these awd or four wheel drive? I'm kinda weary of the ecoboost engines. They plan to keep it long term. Thank you
I HAD A 2022 explorer with 7500 miles come in today for oil change, the oil fitler was covered grease got to looking the left front cv axle was not seated all the way, there was around 1/2 of splines showing then the oring you could move the axle on the splines, guy had me finish oil change then called the dealer for a tow since he didnt feel ti was safe to drive, have you seen that yeton any other 2022 exploreres with 2.3 awd?
I tried to drill a drain plug into mine but ruined it and had to pay 2800 for a new one 😞 I service the new one every 10k miles even though it’s hard to get any old oil out…have you seen the new one Dorman made with the drain plug? XD model
Ford just screwed all techs with these 'newer' models. It's a nightmare working on them. Sup-par parts, very hard to access some of them (aside from lacking drain plugs, rear diff [the level screw has a hole in the subframe where you can loose the only T40 bit that can get in there and fill plug is almost inaccessible due to the subframe] and PTU on escapes for example), transmission on Cmax (which imploded at around 95k due to turkey made nsk bearings, it didn't care about doing maintenance at half the intervals required), rattling and timing problems like it's an Audi, filter in the back of the engine on Focus so you get crap everywhere... I would've gotten a chevy if they only had better white paint not flaking... Oh, wait, ford has that too to some extent.
I mean I see how that's a concern for you and I see how you are obviously emotional about your situation which I would be too but I service these things everyday so I don't have a problem changing the fluids in them where other people think they can't I show them they can you just have to know how to do it
Hey Rich, I brought my 2018 Ford escape 1.5 eco-boost in for a PTU fluid exchange the total was 169.99 they used 2 XT 10 QLVC oil automatic transmission fluid 18.38 parts labor 151.61 says completed transfer case flush as per customer request. Do you think they really did the fluid change? Thank you for your great videos they’re all excellent.
If your ptu is like the one in this video they put the wrong fluid in it. It should have synthetic gear oil put in it, not trans fluid. If it is a transfer case then yes usually uses trans fluid.
Hi Rich, I requested a PTU fluid change on my 2018 Ford escape 1.5 eco-boost with 16,000 miles. On the receipt I received it said they performed a transfer case fluid exchange service at $169.99 they used automatic transmission fluid and it states completed transfer case flush as per customer request. I did not request the transfer case I requested the PTU fluid change. Please advise if this is correct. Thank you for all you do I cannot work on my own car due to my disability.
@@disabledofficer6360The PTU (Power Takeoff Unit) is on all wheel drive (AWD) vehicles, and it takes power to the rear wheels from the front, these are on primarily front wheel drive vehicles. like on cars and small suv's (like the escape). These usually use gear oil. The Transfer case is what transfer's power to the front wheels on primarily rear wheel drive vehicles when 4x4 is engaged like trucks and large suv's. These usually use trans fluid. On an escape you should have a PTU. It is still a case that transfer's power to the rear wheels on AWD vehicles so many people still refer to them as transfer cases, so they are probably refering to the PTU. It should have gear oil in it though not trans fluid.
@@procrastinatingnerd thank you for the response. I appreciate your time explaining it to me. My 2018 Ford Escape has been Recalled three times in three years plus computer problems. The Ford Service Dept. stole my free VIP Lifetime Oil Changes in writing as per the service manager. It appears their trying to make the money back it cost them to replace the engine at 15,000 miles.
I have a ‘22 maverick AWD. It’s FX4 so I have yet to lay eyes on the PTU. Have you serviced or worked on yet? Does it have a drain/fill plug? Or is it a suction pump job like the 13 escape? Thanks in advance!
Seems to me the service will be cheaper than a new ptu with all these new manufacturers suggesting the service intervals doesn’t make any sense is back in the old days you change off in like oil every 3000 miles I still my oil every 3000 miles because oil changes are cheaper a new engine
question for you because i unfortunately am one of fords customers w the 2016 Fusion 1.5 coolant leak issue @ 63k miles. Very frustrating situation but i want to thank you already for the information you have provided however i have some further questions. 1 being does the 2.0 use the same ECU if i wanted to throw in a 2.0 instead of the the blown 1.5 thats in it what would would be my biggest concerns? 2: how much does this cost to have the motor replaced at ford? How many labor hours is it to have your 1.5 swapped? Does ford just replace the lower block or do they swap the whole engine in my situation? I know from your last video about it you said it already has to be a 1.5 newer than june/july of 2019 i believe or it will just have the same gaps between the cylinders. Looking to either throw in a older 2.0 or just replace the motor from a 2019/2020 1.5 My fusion has blown white smoke badly before i realized it will no longer hold coolant in it, car has been sitting in my driveway for over a year because ive just been unsure how to go about it. Now at the point where I’ll probably buy an ebay motor and swap it myself but then i saw your video about how it needed to be a newer motor or it wouldnt make a difference. Any information helps! Ty
Hi Rich quick question took our Mach E In for software update to enable BlueCruise because it wasn’t doing it over the air at home dealer said they need the car for two days that’s how long it takes to download I’ve watched you do downloads in the past they don’t seem to be that long is this something that’s normal I’ve had my Explore ST in for a software update and it was done in less than an hour.
In the Explorer it's specifically States this service for the TCU can go up to 9 hours programming look in my previous videos programming a TCU on a new Explorer it took me like six and a half hours total and another one took me nine and a half
They do the same with the external fuel filter, claiming it's a lifetime and there's no information in the service manual or user manual I change it every while (FG1114) on my fusion 2014 2.5L
@@blueoval250 Near the left rear wheel above a cover/ shield but it can be seen without removing the shield/ cover but not sure where would u find yours on 2011 model if it exists
For everyone watching this video this is my truck and I had the privilege of meeting RICH today and that was by far the best experience I have ever had at a dealership.Rich is a true professional at what he does and he even took the time out to come out and talk to me a while and explain it should be done. I just want to say thank you again Rich and please keep doing what you do, we need more people in this world like you and to anyone needing service and need it done right the first time go see Rich at Dundee Ford you’ll be happy you did. I WANT TO SAY AGAIN THANK YOU for everything. And have a blessed day
You are very welcome brother, nice meeting you and thanks for trusting me
Rich is an wonderful person.
Now I do wish more would follow this model of service excellence. 👍👍
I’ve got one of those lifetime this and that kind of vehicles I’ve never bought that nonsense!!!
@@FordBossMeAre you in Toronto? I'm looking for this service and nobody seems to want to do it.
We need more Rich's in the world that's for damn sure.
I’m shocked that the hardware identified as hardware living in the rust belt.
I love how honest you are & how you teach us. Thank you for sharing your knowledge.
Congrats to the lucky customer who gets to have this master mechanic service his car!
You are the man!! I wish I have a honest mechanic like you in my area, hard to find. Keep going 👍👍👍👍👍👍
Thank you Rich for continuing to remind us about the necessity of maintaining the PTU on our vehicles. It has amazed me the terrible appearance of the lubricant in the unserviced and failed units from your previous videos.
They smell as bad as they look, I changed my PTU fluid on time and it was black. My local ford dealership said they couldn’t change the fluid, so I bought a hand pump and did it myself.
Mercon LV changes color around 15,000 miles i don't know why it does but i read that somewhere it looks like engine oil at that time .
There is no such thing as lifetime fluid or ''filled for life'' they are just trying to get you to buy a new vehicle when the warranty runs out .
My coworker said it best- it’s a lifetime part, because when it breaks they can say “ok, that’s the end of the vehicles lifetime”
What a monstrosity to service. It's what you get when you cram as much hardware into a fwd platform. Excellent work as always by the Ford tech. Good luck finding someone as dedicated as this man
I bought a 2017 Police Interceptor Sedan (Taurus), and it had this model PTU shown in the video. This video helped me immensely despite some minor differences in the surrounding components, just wanted to drop a comment and a like. Much appreciated.
I was thrilled to see pretty decent looking gear oil come out when I got the drain off. So glad it wasn't the goopy mess I've seen in other videos. Probably won't need to touch it for 30k as you stated, just glad I don't have to worry about it anymore.
Your good then for sure
I bough a 2017 Explorer used and the service dept. told me it was life time fluid and they wouldn't change it. I traded the explorer back in the next week and picked up a two wheel drive 2017 Expedition, more money, same mileage, less headaches.
Wow! Takes dedication to do that job! Well done Sir! makes me glad for my Maverick with a 4 banger. I can service the PTU in 15 minutes while I am under there doing an oil change! But , I'd be willing to pay to have this done. As an old mechanic, I can see the value in this service! If I had an Explorer, I'd pay for this work. Its important!
I can’t believe my ford dealership told me the PTU was “not serviceable” brought it to a friend we screwed off the drain and fill plugs. Changed the fluid. Put fresh fluid in and been good to go. Such a simple job and can’t believe they don’t want to service it…
I had a car with a non-serviceable transmission and went to the dealer and asked for a drain and fill. They kind of looked at me weird, but they still did the service. This was back when their service department was still decent.
I still want to backhand the engineer that never put a drain plug in the ptu...how much extra cost to have then cast a hole and machine threads in....hell use a oil pan drain bolt
I do the drain and fill when I do the water pumps on the Police utility, we have the 3.7 n/a in our fleet. Figure I already have the engine on the table, might as well change the ptu fluid.
Don't get me started in the damn water pumps in the 3.5. What moron engineer decided it was smart to put the water pump inside the damn engine?!?! 😳 instead of just unbolting it and bolting a new one on when it starts weeping, nope. Tear the whole front end off the motor, may as well do chains, tensioners, phasers, etc when you're in there, because they'll be next.
We have had some go to the dealer under warranty but the majority of the water pumps we do in the shop are coming in around 80k plus. But you have to remember they have a ton of idle time which puts a significant wear on the engine.
Have you ever drilled and tap a drain in the case?
This man does a fantastic job and he is a A+ mechanic I’m sure, but there’s a much easier way to do this. Instead of pulling the catalytic converter and messing with the sensor, you can drain the oil out through the drain plug and refill the unit through the vent hose, which is top side. What makes this a whole lot easier is putting the oil in a warm pan of water and warming the oil up before you pour it in. It does take about 30 minutes to drain the oil in but it’s a whole lot better than pulling out all those parts.
Lifetime fluid could be the biggest lie ever told.
Lifetime fluid = run it till blows and buy a new one from us.
Another example of a talented professional teaching us.
I have even taken these out and saved them. They get sludged out like crazy from low fluid. A clean out and new fluid does wonders. You learn a lot working on the transmission side of things
they say it takes 18oz. but i put in almost a whole quart before fluid started coming out. maybe 27 or 28 oz.
"My" dealer refused to service my flex ptu, even after I explained how it could be done. So now a great independent garage gets all my service work. It wasn't as complex as that Explorer, and I would have paid an hour or so labor, but they are unable or unwilling to think outside the book. Now I question if I got trans service and spark plugs I paid for a couple of years ago. All the dirt was still around the coil packs... Yeah that's the kind of work that f' s it up for the rest ...
I've got a 14 Edge that has no lower plug. It's my idea to drill and tap for a pipe plug for a drain.
No service required, BULL PUCKEY. Thank you Rich. Had I not watched a previous video of yours on doing this I would have never done it. Coolant and trans services every 30,000 along with the PTU.
Beautiful
It's so frustrating! I have the "shop manual" access for most makes & models and almost all of them say "no service needed" for transmissions and PTU's so they don't give any specs, nor anything useful as far as fluid replacement
Hello,
Which service are you using, Mitchell ?
Is it accessible to anyone ready to pay?
Thanks for getting back to me.
Tigo
@@tt6518 I use the public library access. They have manuals for most makes and models and the best part is they are online so I don't have to go to the library, just have to have internet access
@@WJHandyDad hello,
Haven't thought to try this option until you mentioned it, thanks for sharing with us .
Would you have an internet link please , I would like to try it too.
Thanks.
Tigo.
@@tt6518 unfortunately there isn't 1 link. You need to find your local library link, get a library card (I know it seems stupid if you're just accessing their online content, but they require it) and then access it from your local library
@@WJHandyDad OK , I guess it will be difficult for me to access an US library as I'm not living within your country.
Thanks for getting back with this great info , will keep it in my head anyhow.
Good weekend to you.
Tigo
Similar to the transmissions, can’t you just use the PTU vent hose to refill it? That way you don’t need to remove anything. As long as you measure what comes out, you know how much to put back in.
You got a video on that?
There is another ford Tech I watch, that has a way to change the PTU oil without pulling the exhaust or temp sensor. He just puts and extension hose on the PTU vent line to bring it up above the engine to add the oil back in.
Yeah but it's a guess you just are guessing, sure you can get close but it's a good guess at best
I’m about to replace the PTU temp sensor on my 2015 explorer interceptor 3.7 67k miles, (I just bought this thing in an auction). The code is p182d transfer case temp sensor circut high. I hope this fixes it .
Thanks for this video it helps out a lot.
Have you changed your PTU fluid yet?
@@waltertaylor9615 yes, and I also changed the sensor for it. It got rid of my code.
@@El_ReyJ Which method did you use and how long was the job?
I had this argument back in 2018 with my fellow colleagues and the shop manager. I told them just as you said about the fluid being "lifetime" is bullcrap and if we are going to be bragadochious about being a full service dealership then we must perform this service regardless what the book time calls for, I'm one for ensuring my customers are more knowledgeable and proactive about what they need serviced because I care.
on the mkt 3.5 ecoboost you can get it off by removing wheel liner and some long extensions.
🇺🇸❇⚓🔩⚓❇🇨🇦.....Happy belated Ford Friday from down here in the Charm City & Chesapeake Bay area Admiral! Similiar 2 crown vics in recent years the Explores carry that powerful intimidating image used by law enforcement.....Quite an SUV I must say hope the windy city well sir/senor!....
Just love how Stealerships will not do 2-3 hours of actual work (cause billable labor), but will make you wait 2-3 hours for gravywork because that represents “structured” production.
I don’t have a PTU, but fluid pullers / pumps for $200 invested to do it myself and service my car(s) paid for itself like second use. Definitely better than getting told whimsical tales about how things are non serviceable because “it’s difficult”
Mazda dealer told me they do not do transmission filter replacements.
Never went back and switched to Ford.
What kind of services and how often and how expensive are the questions you have to ask and have answered before purchase.
"You just have somebody willing to do the work who knows how to do the work". Finding that special person is not easy. Good vid. thanks.
I want to see this done to a 2018 non turbo. Mine has the sport appearance package, so it has larger brakes ect, not sure if mine has a drain and fill plug. Havent had time to look.
Did this exact same service to my wife's 2019 Explorer Sport when it was at 50K kms. She was watching me do it too. Now to figure out how to do her rear diff service...
Drill and tap a oil drain plug on the bottom of the flat spot in the rear diff
The little rectangle box right on the bottom where we put a jack
When servicing the PTU, what indicators are we looking for when the PTU is starting to go bad? Metal in the oil etc? Just got a 16 sport 150k miles, so I'm starting to do my research for things that might eventually be a problem. Are there any other recommendations?l with respect to preventative care?
I'm planning to have the PTU on the wife's Escape serviced if/when they get the replacement 6F35 transmission possibly sometime in October (new date they gave me).
The PTU on my 16 Lincoln MKC was much easier than that. I asked Ford to service it when it was there for an oil change, they said no that doesn’t need to be done so I did it myself. The half a quart of oil that’s in it was so black and broken down after only 36000 miles.
Yes they did this week, said we service the put when it goes out
My ford service advisor said they don’t do it because it can be a liability if it breaks and they serviced it last.
Ehhhh not really, he just don't want to do it or has nobody capable
Buddy...you can refill it through the vent tube
I don't do that, of course I know you can I just showed that method on a new trans I installed on a 2016 escape - I don't always use that method
You are talking to a pro that teaches this stuff lol.....what did you think you were teaching me here?
@@FordBossMe Lol never Fordboss
The dealership should sell this service as routine at the 35,000 MI Because by the time they reach 75,000 MI the unit is toast. And that goes for Lincoln's as well. Rich doesn't tell us how much it costs but even if it's 300 bucks it's worth doing. The dealership quotes a replacement parts and labor about $2,500. So if you keep the car for 100,000 miles you might have spend a thousand dollars keeping the unit in good shape. It's not a good design in the first place but there it is
At 30k not 35k sir
I don't talk money because every place is different and I did kind of tell you how much when I specified the labor hours it takes and 1 quart 75w140
Gonna have to send this to some mud mower guys,might be great for use in those for an interesting project.
Also the most that's being pushed thru a mower is like 30hp ,most are 20 or less.
Never realized you could reuse those gaskets. I always thought they were a one time use. Learn something everyday.
Well I clean them up and reuse them to save the customer money
They are a 1 time use. I used to reuse them until I got a few exhaust leaks. Now replace every time.
Ooh...been waiting on you to do a EXSport.
Winter is brutal on this vehicle.
The lifetime of the fluid=the lifetime of the unit.
The Tech that serviced the PTU on my 2019 Edge ST popped out the liquid cooler from the PTU in order to service it.
That's because your drain on your Edge is in front of the cooler pump so you just remove the pump to drain everything and then you put it back and then you fill through the fill hole above it
You can't compare your unit to this one it doesn't work that way
@@FordBossMe I know they all have differences across the platforms and some have drain and fill plugs and some don't.
Like you said, the PTUs that were made to be serviceable have the access and can be done in 30 minutes. There are others that don't have easy access, or you need to be creative to access them.
It would have been nice if Ford just put Haldex units in all of their vehicles instead of PTUs....
I would like to see a video for an explorer xlt with the 3.5 non turbo, one that does not have a drain plug, just a fill plug. Non water cooled one. Is there room to suck the fluid out of the fill hole without removing the exhaust?
You have to use a little suction pump with a thin tube you can get them as a kit on Amazon 12 volt fluid pump
Thanks!
I get my ptu serviced every 12,000kms, it's to me good insurance, 2014 explorer limited, don't know if I have a cooler on mine, to date no issues
Michelin defenders are OK tires but energy and primacy are alot nicer tire our tech told us when he installs them for people, with the 30 day free test, he gets alot of comebacks from Primacy owners that went down to the defenders and within an hr came back, Nope get me primacy
great way to make a technical tool 🔧 💯👌
I extended the vent to top of motor and filled through vent tube
How do you determine the fluid level? I know you can come somewhat close by measuring the amount that drains out and just refilling with that amount, but that method assumes a lot of things I don't think we can really assume.
@@gcraig0001 I drained everything out into a measuring cup ... made sure it was close to amount that it holds and added just a little extra as I went back in milliliters extra.
We have a 2013 Interceptor Utility (Explorer) that we purchased three years ago, took it to the local dealer and they wouldn't do the service, found a local transmission shop that charged me over $300 and took them the better part of the day. TH-cam is your friend, looked and found the vent fill hack. Takes a while to fill though the vent, and I maybe a little off on topping it up but that's better than not doing regular changes every 30,000 miles. I since found a private shop that does the job for $100 plus materials. I've waited and watched the service and they seem to be very knowledgeable and professional. I knew at one point how much the PTU held but have forgotten, also Ford has change the fluid spec a couple of times and now I buy the fluid exclusively from a dealer.
@Wes Mullennix Thanks for the tip 🫡
@@tctwg1 yea man there's a you tube video on it ...it's slow process but not terrible
With a higher mileage 2011 mkt we would I be correct while one is in the area should change the oil line screens for the turbos?
I need to bring my 2016 sport to you so it can be taken care of.
Won’t the cats/exhaust system installed that close to the PTU cause the lubricant to cook inside the PTU? What am I missing ?
Yes indeed but manufacturers do it anyway
someone needs to make a drain plug with a check ball or shut off in it so you could push fluid in to match what drained off. close as damn is to swearin... to a regular service
Thanks for the video! Is it common to have the lower drain plug on the PTU stripped out and extremely stuck in there? I wanted to change the fluid but can't get past the drain plug.. 3.7 police explorer. Probably have to drop the cat and weldor something. very little room there
Of course it's not common
@@FordBossMe So I had to use a welder to get it out. The OEM ford replacement plug is 1/4" hex exactly.
@@CREATINELUSTERI have the same unit. How long did the job take and how often do you plan to change your fluid?
@@waltertaylor9615 I ended up having to replace my unit.. However, not to be defeated, i still removed the stripped plug. I drilled a large hole in the plug, screwed in an extractor, and welded it on there.. it did come out. Just welding a bead to a nut was not going to cut it. yours might not be as stuck though
@@CREATINELUSTER Thanks for your response. So I picked up 2ft of 5/16 fuel line along with 5/16 brass coupler fitting and took my 3.7 to a local shop for ptu drain & flush and had tech extend the vent tube so I can refill it from the top next time around. Hope everything works out for you as well.
Where are located I need a seevice..been to 2 shops and no one wants to touch it
I am in Chicago Illinois
Mine is down for this reason. There should be a lawsuit for this! It’s costing me nearly $3,000 to replace this. This pisses me off
Hi, I just replaced the PTU on my 2016 Explorer Sport. It has the Police Interceptor PTU that comes with the external cooler which attaches to 2 coolant lines. Do you have any advice on how to get the coolant lines back into the cooler once the PTU is installed? I cannot seem to get them to seat back into the housing. Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
Ya know it's been a long time man and I only did 1 this way before
Not very convenient in the rust belt. I bet if some of these engineers actually had to fix cars they would design an easy way to service it.
I don’t believe they care once past 5/60… as long as they can service it during regular warranty. Can’t blame manufacturers because the DOT and towns use salt plus brine in such high concentration and drivers do not clean the undersides of their vehicles daily but they drive them daily . I work at a Highway dept out town trucks are miserable to work on by year number 5 , it’s all we do is work on rusty trucks and police cars pickups …
What is the general cost for a service like this? I have 2016 FPIU n I’m suspecting it has never been changed
Ford recently estimated over 800 to remove Cat converter, Y-pipe, and driveshaft front flange, for drain and refill. SMH.
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My wife has a 2017 AWD Lincoln Continental. The dealership said the PTU couldn't be serviced just like you mentioned. Do you know how difficult it is to do on a Continental? I searched TH-cam and found zero videos on that platform. You and FordTechMakuLoco have good videos on Escapes, etc that I can use but do you know if the Continentals are the same, or do they have any unique challenges I might face? Thanks in advance Boss Man!
Shame on ford, life time fluid, no such thing folks, they would much rather you pay for a new ptu and repair all the damage it causes when it explodes. My 17 escape is a piece of cake compared to this. Well done Rich
So when did we stop calling them transfer cases? Or is PTU a Ford term?
Ford term because it's not a regular transfer case
@@FordBossMe the last and newest Ford I had was. 90 ranger. Was 2wd. Had the bullet proof 2.3 anemic engine. Should never have sold it a few years ago. It owed me nothing. Had 310k on the original engine and got 25mpg and I redid the AC (134 conversion) and it got so cold you could hang meat in that can even here in the HOT SC summers!
Thank you for great video
bookmarked.
thanks for the tips
I thought I may have seen a video that the PTU's on the Taurus' are easier to get to than uninstalling the converter. That you just need a ridiculously long socket extension and a standalone vacuum to suck the fluid out. True? Not true?
I don't remember them all honestly
Gotta love engineers!!
Lots and lots of high temp anti sieze would make life easier next time
Well if it's being done over 30,000 miles there's no reason for it
Great info as always! What is your opinion on these body style explorers to current? Which engine is best option? My parents are intrested in possible purchasing one. And they would perfer a 4 wheel drive one. Are these awd or four wheel drive? I'm kinda weary of the ecoboost engines. They plan to keep it long term. Thank you
Best is 3.5L NA and 2015 - 2019
Thank you
We service ptu at our dealership
I HAD A 2022 explorer with 7500 miles come in today for oil change, the oil fitler was covered grease got to looking the left front cv axle was not seated all the way, there was around 1/2 of splines showing then the oring you could move the axle on the splines, guy had me finish oil change then called the dealer for a tow since he didnt feel ti was safe to drive, have you seen that yeton any other 2022 exploreres with 2.3 awd?
Looking the library I have one where the CV axle was not seated all the way on a 2.3 l EcoBoost 2021 model with only 4000 miles
How about servicing a PTU without a drain plug?
You have to use a fluid suction pump rated for gear oil
I drill a hole in the bottom of the Ptu and tap them for a 3/8" Npt plug. There are videos on TH-cam on how to do this.
I tried to drill a drain plug into mine but ruined it and had to pay 2800 for a new one 😞 I service the new one every 10k miles even though it’s hard to get any old oil out…have you seen the new one Dorman made with the drain plug? XD model
I heard about it but have not seen it, if you have a link I'd like it
Ford just screwed all techs with these 'newer' models. It's a nightmare working on them. Sup-par parts, very hard to access some of them (aside from lacking drain plugs, rear diff [the level screw has a hole in the subframe where you can loose the only T40 bit that can get in there and fill plug is almost inaccessible due to the subframe] and PTU on escapes for example), transmission on Cmax (which imploded at around 95k due to turkey made nsk bearings, it didn't care about doing maintenance at half the intervals required), rattling and timing problems like it's an Audi, filter in the back of the engine on Focus so you get crap everywhere... I would've gotten a chevy if they only had better white paint not flaking... Oh, wait, ford has that too to some extent.
I mean I see how that's a concern for you and I see how you are obviously emotional about your situation which I would be too but I service these things everyday so I don't have a problem changing the fluids in them where other people think they can't I show them they can you just have to know how to do it
Is a 2016 Edge with the V6 also a bear to do? Thanks for the video.
I don't remember them all bud, I've seen so many they start blending
I don't think that one is as bad
“Lifetime fluid” 🤣🤣
Hey Rich, I brought my 2018 Ford escape 1.5 eco-boost in for a PTU fluid exchange the total was 169.99 they used 2 XT 10 QLVC oil automatic transmission fluid 18.38 parts labor 151.61 says completed transfer case flush as per customer request. Do you think they really did the fluid change? Thank you for your great videos they’re all excellent.
If your ptu is like the one in this video they put the wrong fluid in it. It should have synthetic gear oil put in it, not trans fluid. If it is a transfer case then yes usually uses trans fluid.
It's not a transfer case it's a power transfer unit and it does take gear oil not trans fluid
Hi Rich, I requested a PTU fluid change on my 2018 Ford escape 1.5 eco-boost with 16,000 miles. On the receipt I received it said they performed a transfer case fluid exchange service at $169.99 they used automatic transmission fluid and it states completed transfer case flush as per customer request. I did not request the transfer case I requested the PTU fluid change. Please advise if this is correct. Thank you for all you do I cannot work on my own car due to my disability.
@@disabledofficer6360The PTU (Power Takeoff Unit) is on all wheel drive (AWD) vehicles, and it takes power to the rear wheels from the front, these are on primarily front wheel drive vehicles. like on cars and small suv's (like the escape). These usually use gear oil.
The Transfer case is what transfer's power to the front wheels on primarily rear wheel drive vehicles when 4x4 is engaged like trucks and large suv's. These usually use trans fluid.
On an escape you should have a PTU. It is still a case that transfer's power to the rear wheels on AWD vehicles so many people still refer to them as transfer cases, so they are probably refering to the PTU. It should have gear oil in it though not trans fluid.
@@procrastinatingnerd thank you for the response. I appreciate your time explaining it to me. My 2018 Ford Escape has been Recalled three times in three years plus computer problems. The Ford Service Dept. stole my free VIP Lifetime Oil Changes in writing as per the service manager. It appears their trying to make the money back it cost them to replace the engine at 15,000 miles.
How many quarts does the PTU take
I think it’s like 14oz to 16oz.
Good job Brother
Tyvm
Did mine myself was a Pain but worth it
I have a ‘22 maverick AWD. It’s FX4 so I have yet to lay eyes on the PTU. Have you serviced or worked on yet? Does it have a drain/fill plug? Or is it a suction pump job like the 13 escape? Thanks in advance!
I haven't seen the power transfer unit yet but I'm pretty sure there's a fill and a drain plug
@@FordBossMe hope so. I’d like to keep it serviced a little (lot) more than the mfg says to
ok thats do-able
,what do you charge for this service,im willing to make a trip .do you have a contact so i can reach out when im ready
its a 2017 explorer sport
773 523 1200 - call during the hours of 8 - 4 this is the work number
Seems to me the service will be cheaper than a new ptu with all these new manufacturers suggesting the service intervals doesn’t make any sense is back in the old days you change off in like oil every 3000 miles I still my oil every 3000 miles because oil changes are cheaper a new engine
Awesome 😎
question for you because i unfortunately am one of fords customers w the 2016 Fusion 1.5 coolant leak issue @ 63k miles. Very frustrating situation but i want to thank you already for the information you have provided however i have some further questions. 1 being does the 2.0 use the same ECU if i wanted to throw in a 2.0 instead of the the blown 1.5 thats in it what would would be my biggest concerns? 2: how much does this cost to have the motor replaced at ford? How many labor hours is it to have your 1.5 swapped? Does ford just replace the lower block or do they swap the whole engine in my situation? I know from your last video about it you said it already has to be a 1.5 newer than june/july of 2019 i believe or it will just have the same gaps between the cylinders. Looking to either throw in a older 2.0 or just replace the motor from a 2019/2020 1.5
My fusion has blown white smoke badly before i realized it will no longer hold coolant in it, car has been sitting in my driveway for over a year because ive just been unsure how to go about it. Now at the point where I’ll probably buy an ebay motor and swap it myself but then i saw your video about how it needed to be a newer motor or it wouldnt make a difference. Any information helps! Ty
I wouldn't know about the swap honestly
Call fords crc corporate department and ask for help
ford said no can do . Had to get loud and proud. No.w they know
What kind of set up does the 2021+ models have when they are AWD? Actual transfer case or PTU also?
Look at Hub actuator videos on the explorers and you'll learn all about them they're not the same anymore
@@FordBossMe thank you!
Awesome
Would this be easier on a 2010 3.5v6 MKX? Do you always have to pull off exhaust etc.?
No you don't always have to just all depends
at what mileage should I service the PTU?
By 30k or sooner
Hi Rich quick question took our Mach E In for software update to enable BlueCruise because it wasn’t doing it over the air at home dealer said they need the car for two days that’s how long it takes to download I’ve watched you do downloads in the past they don’t seem to be that long is this something that’s normal I’ve had my Explore ST in for a software update and it was done in less than an hour.
That blue Cruise can take up to 16 hours to program
In the Explorer it's specifically States this service for the TCU can go up to 9 hours programming look in my previous videos programming a TCU on a new Explorer it took me like six and a half hours total and another one took me nine and a half
Ok good to know thank you very much for the info.
What would be the shop labor time for that?
I did say in the video this is typically about an hour and a half to a 2-hour job or something like this
Great to see lying dealerships get their feet held to the fire
Well I happen to work for a dealership I'm a dealership technician but I hate when dealerships lie to customers
@@FordBossMe The best guys in a dealership are the techs. It ain't the sales weasels, finance guys, etc. It's the techs. Hands down
25km ptu fault... 256 check engine goto dealer 27km shaking and squeeling. Honestly ford has been horrible so far I wouldn't buy another one
how did you modify the socket for the sensor plug?
Sorry, just noticed you made it look like a O2 socket.
Yep
Lifetime is the lifetime of the fluid not the lifetime of car, thats how ive always looked at it. Taking into account how the car is abused...
They do the same with the external fuel filter, claiming it's a lifetime and there's no information in the service manual or user manual
I change it every while (FG1114) on my fusion 2014 2.5L
Interesting. I couldn’t find one on my 2011 fusion. Where is yours located?
@@blueoval250
Near the left rear wheel above a cover/ shield but it can be seen without removing the shield/ cover
but not sure where would u find yours on 2011 model if it exists
Such a pain in the butt just to service fluid in a transfer case
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Nothing is “lifetime” fluid. Imo