it still boggles my mind why Sega didn't give the Power Base Converter this ability right out of the box. As someone who actually really dislikes the sound that comes out of the Master System/Mark III, The FM Sound Unit is actually a must for me.
That fm soundchip is absolutely mind blowing it makes you even wondering if you are still playing an 8bit system or playing on a 16bit system, it really feels nextgen. That PSG chip really sounds. Lifeless & cold . Apart from the fm soundchip, many games do have decent graphics to mimmick 16bit, so that's 2 pseudo bits of the price of 1.
In regards to the obligatory "sega does what nintendon't", Konami's Lagrange Point on the Famicom features a custom variant of the YM2413 in the FM sound unit called the VRC7 and there's third-party hardware that lets you take full advantage of the chip with more than just Lagrange Point.
Sega with their crazy add ons for even the Master System. Pretty cool. A lot of those Master System songs were pretty charming on their own, but still a neat option for those who want something different.
I honestly never knew SEGA 8-bit games had FM sound capabilities. Growing up, I had a SEGA Master System and the games that utilized the FM sound unit were exclusive to Japan. The SEGA MARK III had an optional FM Sound Unit while the Japanese Master System had the FM Sound Unit integrated. If I could only import a SEGA MARK III and/or a Japanese Master System to add to my collection!
Sounds a lot better IMO. Maybe the Master System would have beat the NES had this been installed by default. The IDE ribbon cable seems a little cheesy, it makes the device look delicate.
I find the FM unit sounds just like the Master System *looks* like it should sound. Visually, it's that step between say the NES and the Mega Drive, but the original sound doesn't match up to that at all. With the FM unit, however, it all comes together.
there is a guy who makes them new and includes a region switch for increased compatibility. they are about $100 shipped IIRC. You can also get an alternative, which is a SMS to Genesis adaptor (also made new) that is able to fit into Genesis 1 and 2, but unlike the original power base convertor it has a BIOS chip to increase compatibility and FM audio chip included
A really cool add-on. For someone who grew up with the Nes, the SMS always seemed like a bit of an oddball with it's better graphics but clearly more lacking sound capabilities. With that thing the SMS feels like an actual more advanced system with two extra years in developement compared to Nintendo's machine.
all it had was a custom waveform chip similar to the gameboy thats all and produced one extra voice in fact most games released for the fds didnt even utilize its extra sound processor.
Does this have the sound chip from the adlib sound synthesizer? The second question: Does this support multi sound chip. The sega mega drive has multi sound chip support.
It means FM synthesis, a then popular form of digital audio synthesis by Yamaha. It found widespread use in the majority arcade machines from the mid 80's to early 90's. It even found it's way into consoles such as the Genesis and PC cards like the first Soundblaster.
Yeah. He's been hiding some videos behind a Patreon paywall. Which, of course, does not benefit us less monetarily-advantaged people, as we don't get to see it all. We do, however, get previews, although how that's better than none at all is a mystery.
They're both use FM synthesis, other than that that they're completely different. The YM2143 in the FM Unit is much more limited, the instrument set is hard-coded and cannot be altered. The YM2612 chip in the Mega Drive/Genesis is more sophisticated, with user definable instruments. That's why all the FM Mark III use the same instruments but Genesis/Mega Drive games have more variation.
Oh, it's simple! (if you understand some electronics ;v) Just a couple oscillators running in different phase shifts going through a feedback loop generates the sounds in these chips. (for YM2151/YM2612/etc. it's 4 operators) It's a lot more in-depth than that of course, this is just a simple explanation.
i think is the final storyline for the 90s. is sharp x68000 game consolé for Sony after the msx very well for rare of games like sequel to nes and máster Sistem and yes you need use x68000 for good.
You're right, the Famicom didn't have a addon for extra sound. They just built their sound expansion chips into the cartridges. ;) **Edit** Unless you count the Famicom disk system, then kind of. :P
There is also a chip made for the master system that is a reversed engineered FM sound unit. Its made by a team in australia and has a super simple install if you are willing to pay the premium for it.
in addition to that there is the JP master system which had FM built-in and the new manufacture power base mini someday id like to take a stab at modding a YM2413 into a megadrive/genesis
The sega 3D classics collection for 3ds has a neat master system game in it called maze walker 3D. It'll let you play the game with either the nomal music or it's fm soundtrack. With that game though, i kinda prefer the non-fm soundtrack while most other games seems to have been improved with it 😶
Sound is so much better but it strips out the RGB from the output which is a real shame. I’m now looking at the Japanese Master System that is basically the MKIII with the FM Sooound Moduleeeeee
I'm thoroughly impressed with how good the FM sound is for 8 bit era games. It reminds me of many Genesis/Mega Drive games. But for pure nostalgia purposes, the SMS sans FM (as we had it in the US) had a very distinct sound and having the FM enabled just doesn't cut it in that department.
I have to say that I do think it sounds better but I don't like it being in a Master System console, I much prefer the programmable sound generator audio as that is a big part of what defines a Master System, it helps gamers identify the console. FM is Mega Drive, PSG is Master System, this FM unit is like a hybrid of Mega Drive and Master System together. Sometimes when you play Mega Drive games for a long period of time you get sick of them (as anything when we have too much), but it's nice to escape the 16-bit scene for a while by playing Master System games, the tinny audio is sometimes very refreshing to the ears and it's a nice change from the FM-YM2612 and the library of games. This FM sound unit would completely screw one over as there would be nowhere to escape to. Your Master System is now a Mega Drive.
@@martynas5076 He don't change the past,the only one we can't,he can't decide what the best in 1985 at 1990,it's an anachronism. He can't place the economic context,the chipset's yamaha had a constant evolution at this time,and them can be evolve. The question is'nt you have FM on MD in 90's and it's better to have other choice to enjoy tinny sound on SMS,it's an amalgam. The question you CAN have FM sound on Mark III via module IF YOU WANT to connect it! Ant that's good in 1985,great!! And what he say...change the sound of megadrive games,if he listen the bad games,portages not reworked music for this chip,they're much,but much japaneses games had great sound on Megadrive(i have a list for you),go to AlyJames website,to listen what the YM2612 to see what it capable,and tell after if you whant other choice of sound. @Adrian Gauna Context economic,evolution of yamaha at this time,consider the Japanese market *at this time* and them music creation games on x68000 with FM sound,and you have the better musics on 16 bit console,grace to FM sound,now don't critic the FM on Master system,it's non sense! You need to know all serie of YM haven't the same function,certain be better in bass,other in cretes,others in rich sounds...but on rich sound you have large choice of sounds,but more difficult,depend what sound you whant to have. In other terms,each chipset have intrinsic qualities,the more recent isn't better,each range has its own functions, after the most recent are often the best but it is not a truth for all.
To be fair the 32X was a great adition to the Genesis, but in those 6 months of lifespawn, no one used the real power behind the hardware. Unlike the Sega CD, that had some (emphasis in "some") FMVs, but it laso had great games like Record of Lodos War (Japan only) and Silpheed that blasted the procesing to new levels of awesomeness..... The 32X deserves more love and respect for what it is
***** The 32X deserves credit for, alongside the Sega CD, making the Genesis the most powerful system of the 4th generation, however power alone is not enough to make a game system 'good', what you really need to be good is good games, of which the 32X has very few... Now the Sega CD is indeed a really good add-on, albeit one that was tainted by a flood of bad games, but if you dig through the crap you can find some REALLY good hidden gems! If Mark had said "This is like the Sega CD for your Mark III" not only would it have made more sense, because the CD add-on allows the Genesis to play CD quality audio, which is an audio-enhancement similar to what the FM is to the Mark III, but it wouldn't have come off as an insult to people who don't like the 32X (e.g. Most people)
Michirin9801 I understand your point and I agree with it, but to me despite the 32X being a failure due to the low lifespawn (if that thing lived longer the history would be diferent) it has some relation with the FM Module. For example the module itself just gave FM music to some games, the 32X did the same. Both could be described as (an optional bonus just for the "yolo"). The Sega CD on the other hand, just for the concept of CD Quality and the capability to play CD's on the system, the huge amount of storage space and the fact that in that time CD's where the shit, is a MUST BUY if it's presented in the gaming market. This is just my opinion, my biased (maybe) point of view, but I feel that both FM Module and 32X are "optional" and not a "must have". The standart game in the Master System will play with or without the FM Module and the standart Genesis games will run with or without the 32X, but both add-ons gave something to those games, one gave music, the other gave video quality. But the Sega CD never gave (as I know) anything to the standart library of games since the system wouldn't run if there was a standart cartridge in the console (with the exception of those CD+32X titles developed at the end of the lifespawn of the Genesis). Anyway I won't state my coment as "proof" for the reason behind Mark's words, just why I think that it could be a more close relation between the FM Module and the 32X. P.S: Sorry for the wall of text :/
Eh, I don't like it. Part of what defines these old consoles is their sound. And a Master System should sound like a Master System, not a Genesis :P Could you imagine playing Super Mario Bros. with FM sound? Would completely kill the nostalgia.
Totally not. I still love to play my old Neo.Geo CD with my best friend, and the CD games sounds are different from the arcade, or the original NG AES; the *real* nostalgia. But I'll still enjoy my improved music and sound effects that come with the game being on CD. Or with Super Street Fighter 2 turbo on the 3DO, usually we would play this game on a SNES but the musics are remastered and the sound effects are much better, sounds like the original cps2 SSF2T came out for... Don't let nostalgia get in the way of better sound man, that's why people thing us collectors are crazy cat ladies in the making ^^ If it's better, and a nice piece for Sega collectors, and you can actually use it to boost your games, it's not some useless item that will stay in its box ^^ Sorry for the rant, but I love this sound unit, going back to normal musics after using it for a while (a friend lent it to me) is pretty sobering..
can you please talk about Atari video game covers again that shit was hilarious! reviews some more if you ever get a chance to thank you awesome Channel
This is the only way to play these games. This should have worked with all games and come standard with the Master System. That would have changed everything. Of course, they shouldn't have redesigned either the Nintendo OR the Mark III either, among other things. Regardless, with this sound the adult arcade seriousness would have really come through giving the true Sega character instead of that lackluster thing we got. (when compared to the best games from NES) The NES sound was warmer and charming, but Sega was never "charming" anyway. With this the MS could be what it should be: POWERFUL. That's what Sega was to me, serious equipment for arcade enthusiasts. Part two may have been a great game (I eventually had to admit) but when they went the cartoon route with Sonic it nearly killed it for me. This was the only Sonic they really needed.
i think the new systems should bring back cardboard boxes.....why put them in those plastic cases when u can have amazing boxes? i miss buying a nes game in a box with so many sheets and papers inside, those were fun days...
Rami Merehbi as cool as they can be they are extremely easy to destroy and some people just see cardboard boxes as disposable packaging and toss them. It's easy to find cartridge only games and jewel case only pc games but never easy to get boxed titles.
it still boggles my mind why Sega didn't give the Power Base Converter this ability right out of the box. As someone who actually really dislikes the sound that comes out of the Master System/Mark III, The FM Sound Unit is actually a must for me.
because the power base converter is just a cart slot the genesis has a master system/Mark III layer built in
I feel like Mark is loving life being able to play his childhood games for a job. Every time he's on camera he has a dopey smile😆
I love these past eras of gaming hardware when even a small upgrade meant a lot.
It was nice to hear Outrun and Rastan using this.
I used to watch the old Classic Game Room and when I found out they're still making it I was supper happy!
This sound unit is what made me love the YM2413.
Mark's obsession with Sega is hilariously adorable
That fm soundchip is absolutely mind blowing it makes you even wondering if you are still playing an 8bit system or playing on a 16bit system, it really feels nextgen.
That PSG chip really sounds. Lifeless & cold .
Apart from the fm soundchip, many games do have decent graphics to mimmick 16bit, so that's 2 pseudo bits of the price of 1.
This guy's voice is amazing, never ever heard anything close to it before
Dangermuffinz *Harold Ramis actor of Ghost Busters!* 💡
It's pretty fucking cringe, tbh. He's obviously putting it on
In regards to the obligatory "sega does what nintendon't", Konami's Lagrange Point on the Famicom features a custom variant of the YM2413 in the FM sound unit called the VRC7 and there's third-party hardware that lets you take full advantage of the chip with more than just Lagrange Point.
Hmm, but is it compatible with Truxton?
Oh dude, that would be the absolute best
These videos are so good to rewatch. Mark was the best.
Sega with their crazy add ons for even the Master System. Pretty cool. A lot of those Master System songs were pretty charming on their own, but still a neat option for those who want something different.
I honestly never knew SEGA 8-bit games had FM sound capabilities. Growing up, I had a SEGA Master System and the games that utilized the FM sound unit were exclusive to Japan. The SEGA MARK III had an optional FM Sound Unit while the Japanese Master System had the FM Sound Unit integrated. If I could only import a SEGA MARK III and/or a Japanese Master System to add to my collection!
Fucking Mark and his fucking classic video game voice!
I have a legit in-box copy of Power Strike II for Master System. Apparently it's pretty rare.
There's an aftermarket kit for the American master system that lets you add an FM sound processor internally. I'm going to get one eventually.
The good ole days. Still hoping to find a copy of that Sega printer.
Sounds a lot better IMO. Maybe the Master System would have beat the NES had this been installed by default. The IDE ribbon cable seems a little cheesy, it makes the device look delicate.
FM sound modulation, it's the future!! :o)
In about 1990 it was the future.
um lol no we had better before 1990 called PCM and the Amiga 1000/500 had it with some FM back in the 80's
Full review of the SEGA FM SOUND UNIT?! Thanks Mark!
man this thing is really cool. It really does make them sound way better.
Pretty cool that it uses the YM2413.
Or basically the cost-reduced version of the YM3812 which just so happened to later be used in the Genesis.
at 4:42 is that a proto-MUSHA track?
I find the FM unit sounds just like the Master System *looks* like it should sound. Visually, it's that step between say the NES and the Mega Drive, but the original sound doesn't match up to that at all. With the FM unit, however, it all comes together.
oh mark, always playing with the cool systems and accessories I can only dream of! XD
I've known about this for many years. Have always wanted the FM sound unit installed for my SMS.
there is a guy who makes them new and includes a region switch for increased compatibility. they are about $100 shipped IIRC.
You can also get an alternative, which is a SMS to Genesis adaptor (also made new) that is able to fit into Genesis 1 and 2, but unlike the original power base convertor it has a BIOS chip to increase compatibility and FM audio chip included
A really cool add-on. For someone who grew up with the Nes, the SMS always seemed like a bit of an oddball with it's better graphics but clearly more lacking sound capabilities. With that thing the SMS feels like an actual more advanced system with two extra years in developement compared to Nintendo's machine.
damn that tri formation comparison, with it the bass is soo nice
Am I the only one who thinks it's weird hearing Genesis sounds in master system games?
HydroArctic Nintendo hardwired a FM sound unit into the famicom disk system.
So?
no they didnt
DrWahWeePop1 it did have more channel audio than the nes
all it had was a custom waveform chip similar to the gameboy thats all and produced one extra voice in fact most games released for the fds didnt even utilize its extra sound processor.
this SEGA FM Sound UNIT.... sounds like Sega Genesis/Sega Mega Drive music in it.
I Wish That I Could Afford to Start a Retro Gaming Collection
Does this have the sound chip from the adlib sound synthesizer?
The second question: Does this support multi sound chip. The sega mega drive has multi sound chip support.
So it makes your games sound like a Yamaha DX7 ?
Can someone tell me what game is running at 2:48? Thanks!
Anyone know the game at 2:49?
Is the zone of danger an extension of the R-Zone?
If one uses the power base converter with a Genesis do the Master System Games use the FM unit in the Genesis?
no, different chips, but you can get a "power base" mini with the fm chip on it
+Gillian Seed Ah, OK. Thanks :)
*I have that adaptor!* ⭐️
I actually have a different converter from raphnet. I have the SMS to Genesis adapter. Works great!
The SMS to M3 rather sucks.
Rockin out to the Fantasy Zone 2 intro
0:27 is both hypnotic and sexual.
FM FTW!!
Check out the Miracle Warriors Sound!! ♥
Rastan and Double Dragon are AMAZING with FM. :)
That intro is back yeah that's what I'm talking about Mark. 👍🏾
MAN, IT'S BEEN A LONG TIME SINCE I'VE SEEN CLASSIC GAME ROOM!
What is the 2nd game he is playing when he says save the girl?
What FM stands for?
frequency modulator?
It means FM synthesis, a then popular form of digital audio synthesis by Yamaha. It found widespread use in the majority arcade machines from the mid 80's to early 90's. It even found it's way into consoles such as the Genesis and PC cards like the first Soundblaster.
Frequency Modulation Synthesizer
*Radio stations*
May I ask what camera you use? It truly captures your CRTs perfectly. Also absolutely amazing video by the way! Love it!
Some of the 3d games have 2d modes depending on starting it up with button combinations.
I do think that Mark's learned some kind of a lesson. That being "please don't hide your videos behind a paywall forever - give them a week at best".
T.Y. Netees was he hiding Videos? I haven't watched him for a few months?
We'll see. If he posts the actual review of Firepower 2000...
Yeah. He's been hiding some videos behind a Patreon paywall. Which, of course, does not benefit us less monetarily-advantaged people, as we don't get to see it all. We do, however, get previews, although how that's better than none at all is a mystery.
+Jacob Franklin yep he hid it. people freaked out he caved
It was pretty lame to hide your most intriguing reviews behind a paywall and leaving your more boring ones for everyone. I hope he learned a lesson.
Turn up the volume!
It also effects all the sound fx.
Isn't the FM sound unit the same as the Genesis sound chip?
nope, completely different
Interesting. They do sound similar, don't you think?
They're both use FM synthesis, other than that that they're completely different. The YM2143 in the FM Unit is much more limited, the instrument set is hard-coded and cannot be altered. The YM2612 chip in the Mega Drive/Genesis is more sophisticated, with user definable instruments.
That's why all the FM Mark III use the same instruments but Genesis/Mega Drive games have more variation.
And here's me hoping you'd talk at least a little bit about FM sound synthesis...
LemonSlice unfortunately not many people know how to explain FM sound. I barely do, and I've used FM synths in music before
CKT1138 Yeah, but at least something like "which uses FM sound synthesis" would show he understands what this thing is about.
LemonSlice you're not wrong
CKT1138 Thanks, I hate being wrong. :)
Oh, it's simple! (if you understand some electronics ;v)
Just a couple oscillators running in different phase shifts going through a feedback loop generates the sounds in these chips. (for YM2151/YM2612/etc. it's 4 operators)
It's a lot more in-depth than that of course, this is just a simple explanation.
i think is the final storyline for the 90s. is sharp x68000 game consolé for Sony after the msx very well for rare of games like sequel to nes and máster Sistem and yes you need use x68000 for good.
You're right, the Famicom didn't have a addon for extra sound. They just built their sound expansion chips into the cartridges. ;) **Edit** Unless you count the Famicom disk system, then kind of. :P
The extra sound chip is still in the cartridge.
There is also a chip made for the master system that is a reversed engineered FM sound unit. Its made by a team in australia and has a super simple install if you are willing to pay the premium for it.
in addition to that there is the JP master system which had FM built-in and the new manufacture power base mini
someday id like to take a stab at modding a YM2413 into a megadrive/genesis
Gillian Seed That would be awesome
The sega 3D classics collection for 3ds has a neat master system game in it called maze walker 3D. It'll let you play the game with either the nomal music or it's fm soundtrack. With that game though, i kinda prefer the non-fm soundtrack while most other games seems to have been improved with it 😶
R-TYPE & Monster World II/Wonderboy III!
Never seen this awsome system before thanks Lord carnage
Space cave is sick ! Im digging the Sega light up blue sign…It looks like a baby printer from afar
Sound is so much better but it strips out the RGB from the output which is a real shame. I’m now looking at the Japanese Master System that is basically the MKIII with the FM Sooound Moduleeeeee
Sweet Doctor Strange shirt. Love it.
Does it work with PS4 games? I'd like to listen to DOOM 2016 in that \m/
No it doesnt. Only the Sega mark 3 supports the fm sound unit.
Hmmm. It is like a 32x. In that it improves the sound capability but only for certain games that take advantage of it.
Cadê o Sérgio Matheus Hergert?
Oh, Hi Mark!
The Thank Yous almost sound like a Theremin effect.
I honestly much prefer the SMS without the FM unit.
I'm thoroughly impressed with how good the FM sound is for 8 bit era games. It reminds me of many Genesis/Mega Drive games. But for pure nostalgia purposes, the SMS sans FM (as we had it in the US) had a very distinct sound and having the FM enabled just doesn't cut it in that department.
hilarious voice over credits
sounds so awesome!
Sounds great.
I have to say that I do think it sounds better but I don't like it being in a Master System console, I much prefer the programmable sound generator audio as that is a big part of what defines a Master System, it helps gamers identify the console. FM is Mega Drive, PSG is Master System, this FM unit is like a hybrid of Mega Drive and Master System together.
Sometimes when you play Mega Drive games for a long period of time you get sick of them (as anything when we have too much), but it's nice to escape the 16-bit scene for a while by playing Master System games, the tinny audio is sometimes very refreshing to the ears and it's a nice change from the FM-YM2612 and the library of games. This FM sound unit would completely screw one over as there would be nowhere to escape to. Your Master System is now a Mega Drive.
But the Sega Mega Drive has FM and PSG sound.
@@martynas5076 He don't change the past,the only one we can't,he can't decide what the best in 1985 at 1990,it's an anachronism. He can't place the economic context,the chipset's yamaha had a constant evolution at this time,and them can be evolve. The question is'nt you have FM on MD in 90's and it's better to have other choice to enjoy tinny sound on SMS,it's an amalgam. The question you CAN have FM sound on Mark III via module IF YOU WANT to connect it! Ant that's good in 1985,great!!
And what he say...change the sound of megadrive games,if he listen the bad games,portages not reworked music for this chip,they're much,but much japaneses games had great sound on Megadrive(i have a list for you),go to AlyJames website,to listen what the YM2612 to see what it capable,and tell after if you whant other choice of sound.
@Adrian Gauna Context economic,evolution of yamaha at this time,consider the Japanese market *at this time* and them music creation games on x68000 with FM sound,and you have the better musics on 16 bit console,grace to FM sound,now don't critic the FM on Master system,it's non sense!
You need to know all serie of YM haven't the same function,certain be better in bass,other in cretes,others in rich sounds...but on rich sound you have large choice of sounds,but more difficult,depend what sound you whant to have. In other terms,each chipset have intrinsic qualities,the more recent isn't better,each range has its own functions, after the most recent are often the best but it is not a truth for all.
sounds great
I only like some of the FM soundtracks, like Thunder Blade or Cloud Master. Outrun, California games and Aleste just sound much better with PSG sound.
mark steve blum and peter cullan in a room not even lord karnage can contain
I can't believe it!
Review high quality rips
Grand Dad!
DoяkTV todokete
has this escalated?
no then mark would have to replace the nutshack
Xxx_Sniper_Boi_xxX i don't trust people that unitonically use dead memes
Genesis sound on a Sega Master. Holy shit!
XD that trick question
Doesn't the Master System have that built in?
The Japanese one did, the US and European version didn't. Although you can mod it fairly easily.
+lordkarnage you are the gaming god
"This miraculous add-on is like the Sega 32X for your ears"
Wow, that sounded like an insult!
Mark likes the 32X.
LemonSlice I know, but even then...
To be fair the 32X was a great adition to the Genesis, but in those 6 months of lifespawn, no one used the real power behind the hardware. Unlike the Sega CD, that had some (emphasis in "some") FMVs, but it laso had great games like Record of Lodos War (Japan only) and Silpheed that blasted the procesing to new levels of awesomeness.....
The 32X deserves more love and respect for what it is
***** The 32X deserves credit for, alongside the Sega CD, making the Genesis the most powerful system of the 4th generation, however power alone is not enough to make a game system 'good', what you really need to be good is good games, of which the 32X has very few...
Now the Sega CD is indeed a really good add-on, albeit one that was tainted by a flood of bad games, but if you dig through the crap you can find some REALLY good hidden gems!
If Mark had said "This is like the Sega CD for your Mark III" not only would it have made more sense, because the CD add-on allows the Genesis to play CD quality audio, which is an audio-enhancement similar to what the FM is to the Mark III, but it wouldn't have come off as an insult to people who don't like the 32X (e.g. Most people)
Michirin9801
I understand your point and I agree with it, but to me despite the 32X being a failure due to the low lifespawn (if that thing lived longer the history would be diferent) it has some relation with the FM Module. For example the module itself just gave FM music to some games, the 32X did the same. Both could be described as (an optional bonus just for the "yolo").
The Sega CD on the other hand, just for the concept of CD Quality and the capability to play CD's on the system, the huge amount of storage space and the fact that in that time CD's where the shit, is a MUST BUY if it's presented in the gaming market.
This is just my opinion, my biased (maybe) point of view, but I feel that both FM Module and 32X are "optional" and not a "must have". The standart game in the Master System will play with or without the FM Module and the standart Genesis games will run with or without the 32X, but both add-ons gave something to those games, one gave music, the other gave video quality. But the Sega CD never gave (as I know) anything to the standart library of games since the system wouldn't run if there was a standart cartridge in the console (with the exception of those CD+32X titles developed at the end of the lifespawn of the Genesis).
Anyway I won't state my coment as "proof" for the reason behind Mark's words, just why I think that it could be a more close relation between the FM Module and the 32X.
P.S: Sorry for the wall of text :/
thx man!
You forgot the best sounding game on FM:
PHANTASY FUCKING STAR, DUDE!
We need MORE CGR, EDF EDF EDF …
That's my dream kit :)
Eh, I don't like it. Part of what defines these old consoles is their sound. And a Master System should sound like a Master System, not a Genesis :P Could you imagine playing Super Mario Bros. with FM sound? Would completely kill the nostalgia.
Totally not. I still love to play my old Neo.Geo CD with my best friend, and the CD games sounds are different from the arcade, or the original NG AES; the *real* nostalgia. But I'll still enjoy my improved music and sound effects that come with the game being on CD.
Or with Super Street Fighter 2 turbo on the 3DO, usually we would play this game on a SNES but the musics are remastered and the sound effects are much better, sounds like the original cps2 SSF2T came out for...
Don't let nostalgia get in the way of better sound man, that's why people thing us collectors are crazy cat ladies in the making ^^ If it's better, and a nice piece for Sega collectors, and you can actually use it to boost your games, it's not some useless item that will stay in its box ^^
Sorry for the rant, but I love this sound unit, going back to normal musics after using it for a while (a friend lent it to me) is pretty sobering..
LOL, well nostalgia is 90% of the reason why I play these old games. But to each their own, I guess.
Gideon Waxfarb It doesn't sound like a Genesis.
Well, it doesn't sound quite as capable as a Genesis, but it's still very much FM, and sounds nothing like a Master System.
Gideon Waxfarb it sounds like a Master System with a YM2413 chip installed (which can be done by the way).
can you please talk about Atari video game covers again that shit was hilarious! reviews some more if you ever get a chance to thank you awesome Channel
I miss CGR so much...
So, does this mean Mark has reconsidered the paywall?
charvelgtrs yeah he's doing extended reviews for patron.
This is the only way to play these games. This should have worked with all games and come standard with the Master System. That would have changed everything. Of course, they shouldn't have redesigned either the Nintendo OR the Mark III either, among other things. Regardless, with this sound the adult arcade seriousness would have really come through giving the true Sega character instead of that lackluster thing we got. (when compared to the best games from NES) The NES sound was warmer and charming, but Sega was never "charming" anyway. With this the MS could be what it should be: POWERFUL. That's what Sega was to me, serious equipment for arcade enthusiasts. Part two may have been a great game (I eventually had to admit) but when they went the cartoon route with Sonic it nearly killed it for me. This was the only Sonic they really needed.
i think the new systems should bring back cardboard boxes.....why put them in those plastic cases when u can have amazing boxes? i miss buying a nes game in a box with so many sheets and papers inside, those were fun days...
Rami Merehbi as cool as they can be they are extremely easy to destroy and some people just see cardboard boxes as disposable packaging and toss them.
It's easy to find cartridge only games and jewel case only pc games but never easy to get boxed titles.
CKT1138 Which is why Genesis & Master System games are easy to collect for & buy boxed. They were cases.
No offense to the patrons of course, but I'm so over hearing their names in every damn video! D:
Really cool Sega add-on though.
Amazing!
Imagine if this worked with Truxton.
awesome
Aaaaaaand today Mark III games break the bank...............................
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But didn't Nintendo do the same thing with the Disk System?