Dejounte Murray Opens Up About The Mind Games He Faced With The Spurs | ALL THE SMOKE
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 19 ม.ค. 2023
- New Hawks star guard Dejounte Murray gets real and candid about his time in San Antonio and the 'mind games' he faced his first couple of years.
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Now that I think about it, I’ve never heard Dejonte Murray talk until this podcast 😂😂😂😂
Apparently he's the second best Spur to ever play for that team besides Steven Jackson!
Never ever heard em talk lol
Definitely sounds uneducated. "Know what I'm saying" "like..know what I'm saying "
You would swear it's g Herbo talking
@@spursjunkie2821 it’s called Ebonics, nothing uneducated about it white boy
Pretty crazy that Poppovich showed up to Dejounte’s house with no pants on and two bottles of wine to celebrate the all star game
I mean he’s got a 13 incher why not show it off
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It's not crazy after he fucked Tony Parker at half court
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That makes me happy that Manu is a good dude and good teammate. Tony Ive always kinda suspected he was like that. Ask Brent Barry
Yeah I dont know, I pretty much take anything that stephen jackson says and just assume its the exact opposite when it comes to the spurs. Dude is salty. I dont know what to think about tony honestly. Obviously the whole brent barry thing makes him look like a complete ass, but i think a lot of what stephen jackson says it because tony is french and literally every word out of his mouth sounds like it is dripping condescension. I just dont see timmy or pop being ok with the kind of behavior stephen jackson and DJ are attributing to him, but I wasnt there, so who knows. I do believe thaat the whole mentoring thing didnt happen because DJ already had an nba mentor. Lebron effing James.
didnt he cheat on one of his teammates wives
@@_Maxten Yes,he did.I would've beat the french outta Parker !!! LOL.
You right. Tony Parker is a snake. Very jealous guy. Not a team guy.
if tim, manu, gregg, likes tony, then any of yall argument's is invalid.
First off, that 2017 spurs team (his rookie year) was an amazing team. Second, Dejounte was the 29th overall pick. It’s to be expected to not get much PT your rookie year.
To be fair, Tony Parker was the 28th overall pick in 2001. Antonio Daniels began that year starting, but Tony took that role from Antonio, in Tony's rookie year.
Tony had one of the fastest first and second steps in that decade and it was obvious early on...
Tony is also a hofer, cream always rises to the top.
I'm a fan of Murray's game, been high on him since sa drafted him.
People don't even realize POPS be hooking players up by letting them go. If he thinks his system is gonna hold you back and you should flourish as a player he'll hook you up by letting you play elsewhere. He did it for Tony, patty mills, Demar, George Hill etc. And some of those players were lost once they got out of pops system.
That’s why he’s the greatest coach. He builds people up. Why do you think Lebron respects pop so much? How come Pops coaching tree is so big and doing great things? Bro… Kerr literally won a ring with the spurs. Won one as a coach. Then went on and won 4 more.💀💀💀💀
@@tyreek.6815 don't forget Budenholtzer
People don't put things into perspective. They don't look at context or the outcome. They just wanna feel. It's exhausting. Like just think, how hard is that 😂
Tony left cause Murray took the starting spot and demar was told he wasn’t gonna get traded and look what happen
Bad take. Pop got nothing to do with this he’s not the Gm. He’s cool as hell though and understand his system not for everyone. Pop is not the one making final roster decisions
I'm surprised Jackson didn't mention how he was so much better than Manu. 🤣
He's better than Ray Allen too. The older he gets, the better he was. By the time he's a 100 he'll be the NBA's logo
@@ristovskiv 😂😂😂😂
@@ristovskiv when chuck Said that about Kenny I laughed so hard 🤣🤣
@@mistywoods6560 Yeah it was funny, but that's playful mostly and plus for Kenny he has those two guys, Chuck and Shaq to keep him in check so he won't get carried away. Stephen Jackson on the other hand truly believes still that he was a better player than Ray Allen, Ginobili, Vince Carter I mean he's 40 he acts like he's 15.
Check out this th-cam.com/video/f0rDnmthOLk/w-d-xo.html . He contradicts himself so much, mathematicians can derive a new proof theory starting as a base with the proof of contradiction.
@@ristovskiv dude I saw a part of their interview with magic he said I MADE SURE TO SCORE 30 EVERYTIME WE PLAYING THE LAKERS 🤣
I think being drafted by an old school coach to a franchise that also runs their stuff through him can't be easy for any young player. Pop is set in his ways and he's gonna make players get used to his style, not the other way around.
You're right but the more I hear these stories the more I realise that Kawhi was in the right.
If you're a spurs fan you know what I'm on about.
The media, Spurs org, fan all turned against him. Laughed at him and he will amount to nothing without Pops. They also said DeMar will achieve more.
Pops needs to adjust his style.there no Tim Duncan anymore. Kawhi needed him and he spat in his face by getting impatient. Sending Parker and Manu to the media. He did regret in the 11 hour trying everything to keep him by retiring Manu earlier and trading Parker
@@tomsmith4282 Nobody here is prying into anyone's life. It's all sports talk.
@@MarkLaw13 Kawhi was right about what? What did Dejounte say here that was damning? The team drafted him after everyone else passed. They gave him the starting job over Tony in year 2. They gave him a contract extension even though he was hurt. They worked with him to find a team he wanted to get traded to.
I can go off on Pop for days, but explain to me how they did DJ wrong. (Hint: they didn't. I watched the podcast. This was more about Jack airing his grievances against the Spurs after they cut him right before the postseason because he kept complaining to everyone around him about deserving to be starter over Danny Green).
And the issue with Kawhi wasn't that he wanted to be traded. They were upset that he left town for NY midseason after a team-only meeting where the players asked him if he was ever going to return, then refused to speak to anyone associated with the team for months DURING THE SEASON, then publicly demanded a trade which killed the Spurs' leverage.
@@tomsmith4282 It takes minimal time and effort to read up a story about a team's outcome. Or as I suspect the guys making the comments are, passively gaining information from years of watching your favorite team and news related to it. Surely you do that too, as information gathering is common human behavior am I right?
why would he change something that has given him titles and success. Even seeing a lot of former assistants being succesful coaches in the league tells you how impactful he has been. To win in the league you need star players and honestly the spurs still with kahwi and lamarcus aldridge were a menace, to this day i think if kawhi would have stayed im confident they could have beaten the warriors with kd, ppl forget before kawhi got injured those spurs had 60+ wins. I do think he mishandled the whole kawhi situation, mainly by pressuring him, making other players(tony parker cough cough) question his injury, breaking the trust in the locker room. Thats pops biggest mistake, unfortunately there is not enough time to see him win another championship cuz he doesnt have a star player and he is not going to wait until a star is eventually developed.
That was a refreshing piece. You don't see many young players w/ the stones to speak their minds like that, especially when they're in their prime and playing significant minutes. Dejounte fits on the Hawks, I'm glad they scooped him up.
You know what I am saying
He dnt fit the hawks they only one game above .500
Mid
Fits right in with the play in seed 😂
Damn Tony parker catchin bullets
Stephen sounds like a bitter ex
He's also reinventing history acting like teams were clamoring for him during his final season. He had another full year guaranteed and the Spurs cut him a year early a week before the postseason because he was causing too many issues complaining that his 36 year old azz was better than Danny Green and Manu and deserved to be a starter. (FWIW, the Spurs made it to game 7 of the Finals that year and won a title the next.) No one wanted Jack. He ended up playing for about 2 weeks with the Clippers the next year before they realized they needed to cut him as well.
@@randomtees he was better than washed up T Mac and could’ve provided something be real. Stak is big headed but he’s right in this instance.
You ever seen Stephen's career stats? He was a lower tier player.
@@tayluc777 tmac can be in a wheelchair and stak wouldn't be better than him bruh
So he’s bitter about Tony but Manu was one of the best teammates he had in his life? Make it make sense loo
I'm born and raised in Seattle and when this young man got drafted I told everyone he got drafted by the right team and coach. Coach pop is the key to his success even if he's not with them anymore. If you buy in to pop, he will pull the star potential out of you
The chip on Jax' shoulder toward Parker and the Spurs is so big, you could see it from space.
Crazy cuz everybody say the same thing about Tony..
Wasn't it Tony that cheated on fine ass Gloria with a man?
All of his growing pains at the Spurs made him the player that he is today‼️💯 #NoCapp
All unneccesary
@@realcoachescorner3503 maybe so but at the same time he can now value teams as a leader moving forward!
@@paceauto5382 It was necessary, it's not like he was a top pick in the first place. TP himselfs explained in an interview how TD never spoke to him during his first season until he earned his respect during a playoff game
@@radicalmatamune agreed💯
Spurs had nothing to do with that....Murray made himself the player he is today.
I just had a talk with my son about his body language on the bench. He got taken out the game because he wasn’t handling the double teams and press as he should and got sat down. He was on the bench pouting and not being supportive of his teammates. I told him what you going to do when the lights and cameras on? Best believe the coach going to show you on film, you not being a good teammate!!
I forgot Matt Barnes was on the panel lmaoo. He really listen and soak everything in 😂
That man be higher than a mf 😂💯
Feel him in this interview
Stak sounds bitter lol because even kobe said tony the reason why he didn’t win more rings lol TP the most underrated PG of all time
Need more candid interviews like this and the one John wall had on another pod, when you keep it 100, the views skyrocket
That John wall one full of 🧢 tho
This podcast is the best for athlete profiles. It's tops. Period.
I rocks with Murray he caught my EYE in the summer league that solidified his spot in SA👏🏾
This audio sounds Perfect!!! Give the sound guy a raise!!!
Just became my second favorite point guard wise keep being great young man
Lol TP is a “selfish” basketball player, but flourished in a system specifically designed for the unselfish. Amazing!
You have 2 guys who played with Tony saying the same thing. Nome of us knows how he was behind the scenes. Tony is the same guy that cheated on his then-wife with a teammate's wife. Dude is definitely a snake.
@@217ShowOffBoii key word in my OP was basketball. Tony averaged 15.5 PTS and 5.6 AST during his career. Basketball wise, that doesn’t scream selfish.
@@kame1624 and they're talking about behind the scenes.
Trae Young led the league in assists and he's selfish, same with Westbrook
@@FSVR54 0 rings
Love this kid
Love his energy great kid
O I forgot to add this the second time I done caught a real good interview here i ain’t got no other choice but to sub bro I like the content.
Welcome to Atlanta DJ you a dawg on that court!!!
Tony a 4x time champion and a finals mvp. Idc if he selfish lol
Exactly, dude had a right to try and show that he still had it. He didn't want to sit on the bench as a third string and coach, not every player can do that.
If people are giving DJ credit for continuingly having a chip on his shoulder, we should give credit to TP for still having that dog in him after so many seasons/championships.
tony deserves credit if anything no way would stak and dejounte would have dealt with all the times pop was cussing out tony if they were tony especially stak the hothead that he was and still is
Why do y’all overrate Tony Parker so much lmao. He’s trash!!! Take Tim and Manu off that team Tony wouldn’t even be respected😂
@@miltoncharle7 You sound crazy, go watch some TP highlights, dude was a baller.
@@killerra only him & Stephen Curry has 4 rings in the 21 century
Bruh sounds crazy.
S/o to Seattle
Tacoma supports you 👍🏾👍🏾👌🏾👌🏾
206 in the building
Stephen Jackson saying the would have won more rings without Tony haha.
Jax never talks about how he left the Spurs when he was supposedly still better than all the younger guys, but then couldn't get minutes on ANY other NBA team. He still bitter over how it ended instead of looking in the mirror.
delusional lol
he never said without him he just said him being selfish
@@2nifty201 damn. 4 rings not enough? Some would argue that his selfishness was the reason they won. He was mvp of the 2007 championship and the best player for a few seasons.
Dejounte been that dude! Miss him and Kawhi. Go Spurs go 💪🏽
Tony Parker owns him nothing. He dedicated 16 years of his life for the spurs and did some ugly mistakes on the road but you can't deny the work he threw since 2002, dude is possibly an HoF.
When his idol MJ called to join him, TP was already preparing the after-career and create his own basketball training camp in France, it was a business opportunity he couldn't refuse. Then Murray got the starting PG spot that he wanted so much with a 64M contract which was a pretty fair deal overall considering they offered him this a year after his toned ACL. Just another drama with different perspective, btw Jackson has just been a hater for years because his ego couldn't take that Spurs favored a small French Guard over him.
Would like to hear Timmy and Gino's version since they Are Parker's best friends
okay, chill out tony
Good points. Tony was legit happy to go play for MJ, I don’t remember him showing any animosity towards the Spurs or towards losing his spot…unless i forgot. Different perspectives like you said.
@@donniedarko4688😂😂
that’s the problem I have with Stephen Jackson. He just think he was all dat as an NBA player and I’m sorry to admit he fucking wasn’t His first championship came from San Antonio he wasn’t worth shit anywhere else he went. Let’s really be honest he wasn’t
Tony Parker is a garbage human in every aspect of lif3
Stephen Jackson will never he considered ea HOF player, he can't ever be mentioned in the same breath of Tony Parker.
Murray will have to get at least 4 rings and a finals MVP to talk about Tony lol
and Stak ?
@Tom Smith It depends. Some take it to heart,some dont't. I hate the fact that some people say that this player needs to have this and that to be great. It's a team sport and it depends how each organisation puts players around certain stars so they have a good chance to win or not. There are a lot of great players that didn't get the chance to win a championship.
Tim duncan aint walking through his door
Can Barry talk about Tony?
@@jiggyv6139 stak mad because he got traded and didn’t last in the spurs system
DJ cool as hell man 😂 woulda never dude was so chill. I remember when him and Harden got face to face 😂
I remember when dejounte pushed harden with every ounce of force in his body and harden barely moved an inch 🤣
@@AF-vk9zq no lie 😂😂
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 BRO POINTED AT THAT MAN SOUL too 👉🏽
chill dont win chips get outta move around with that this is a championship city
I love Capt jack glad to see him giving props manu thou
And this how players hit the ceiling early in their career. Just because you're good doesn't mean you can't improve some kind of way. It's not being broken mentally. It's opening your mind to expand. For example, he's a grown man speaking like a teenager. 🤦♂️
Your a teenager trying to speak like a grown man. They were definitely trying to break him and make him conform to their culture. It's millitary style indoctrination, aka trauma bonding. Mistreat someone you have power over and only occasionally reward them to keep them trying to get rewarded and trying to avoid punishment. There is a reason why once players started to realize their value, star players avoid and or dip from the spurs as fast as they can. People consider pop a genius for his abusive leadership style but how much of his success is due to him having Duncan Manu and Parker? Think of Steve Kerr today whose on track to achieve as much success as pop and everyone wants to play for the warriors.
@@EF-wy3di It's called tough love. It doesn't work for everyone but the spurs have proven they know how it works. C'mon dude, this man is just complaining that someone finally put him in his place. Gave him an opportunity. And still ungrateful? That's not maturity.
@@jordannietos Tough love is being honest with someone even when you know it is going to hurt them but be better for them in the long run. Psychological manipulation and rituals of public humiliation is not tough love, it isn't any form of love. It is domination and control over someone to make them do what you want them to do. Of course these things work a lot, otherwise people wouldn't do them to others.
He wasn't "put in his place". He was a really talented ball player with a strong sense of self and self value. He was a project that pop wanted to see if he can break psychological and turn into a tool for him to use. So pop sabotaged and tried to humiliate him at every step hoping to destroy his confidence in his self so Pop can instill a new sense of identity and purpose of his own design into him.
Why should he be grateful for literal abuse and sabotage to his career? This is the part where fans forget that players are actual human beings. You view these real people as meer objects of entertainment and so there is a lacking of empathy.
Jackson was an employee and Pop was his supervisor, nothing more. He is not his father nor is he some moral authority. They play a children's game for entertainment. It's not like pop is commander that needs to condition soldiers to defend the lives of millions of people or something. He is just an egotistical narcissist that feels some marks on a piece of paper that everyone will forget about in 10 years means more than someone's humanity.
@@EF-wy3di Not reading all that lol. They gave Murray a chance and he turned out to be a spoiled brat. That's really all it is.
@@EF-wy3di 🤣🤣 This is so detailed and so incorrect at the same time. Why should a kid who was drafted nearly dead last in the first expect to come out and get treated like he’s him? Especially behind a HoF PG and a solid championship caliber back up in Patty Mills? He was 3rd in his position and they made him work for his spot? And that he did, The kid got a $64M guaranteed contract and was developed into the budding star he is right now. His sense of entitlement is not justified at all.
The most replayed part here is the two showing love for Manu Ginobili
I still love me some DJ regardless of where he plays. That said, they were teaching him how to be and become a pro imo. It's hard for players at this level to not feel a sense of entitlement because they've always been "The Guy," especially guys with as much potential as DJ, but that mindset can typically lead to division within a team. It's hard for ppl to check their ego in any workplace, much less in an environment such as the NBA. I hope this is something DJ learned from as I feel he learned a lesson not uncommon from most imo. I don't think anyone is wrong in this situation to be honest. I hope things work out in ATL.
WHATEVER LOL
DJ & trae not clicking...they just taking turn
Its not about being the guy or teaching a guy to be a "pro" That`s one of those cliches that fans and media use to try to explain something they don`t have a window into. When you come into a situation with veteran players, they will teach you how to be a pro. Being a pro, when coaches and GM`s say that, its about your study habits, how you take care of your body and how you work on your craft. On a veteran loaded contending team, how do you work on your craft in order to fulfill the role we need you to fulfill? In this situation, he`s taking the keys to the car from a hall of famer who didn`t want to give up the keys and there were a lot of red flags surrounding his background. If I`m going to bench a hall of famer then I need to make sure the guy replacing him is going to be here everyday. He`s going to be singularly focused on his job when he`s in the facility and he`s not going to leave me in a bind.
@@b.lukito6063 Murray is a better player and point guard and defender then Trae I don't why he went to a team which such a small guard that can't play defense and force shots
@@holyghost8467
Not that I disagree with your take, but hawks is Trae's team. He's their franchise/max player...he's not going anywhere anytime soon, DJ better be fit in with the pecking order
I like him as a player.
You can tell Murray hard headed
Bro he's not lying. His rookie year they played the magic in the preseason here in orlando. I went to the game. I never heard of him before, he even missed a wide open fast break dunk in that game. But that's not what I remember the most about him. He caught my eye because he was this really really skinny kid that wasn't involved in any of the plays or anything but he ran extremely hard of screens, off the baseline etc. I could tell just by that alone dude was gonna be a good player one day. It just seemed like every second he was on the court he was giving it 100 percent even running from baseline to baseline without the ball. So when I saw him becoming an Allstars years later it didn't surprise me one bit.
Curry had the same problem too. Skinny as all hell when he left Davidson and GSW wasnt gonna play him cause Monte was there be4 him but he put in effort over the years to strengthen his hips and ankles, gain mucle weight, and worked on his defence and he's clearly a top 10 player all time now.
IT was all the effort that he put in that made his talent really shine.
You may have the talent butbwith no effort or desire to do great things well then you just become ...OK but never 'GREAT'
Well if we look at the bright side …. He did become the teams best player and therefore an elite guard in the nba . I understand the mind games are petty but it made him stronger . Now his game can be plugged into a variety of sets. He’s a good defender, he has strong mid range paint area game , elite passer , disciplined, low key hustler on the boards and he’s not afraid to do the dirty work . He had to fight for his spot on the spurs and I respect what it made him .
Cats forget it's only so many minutes. Tough coming from being the man to being on the bench. Murray did it right, count your blessings and keep grinding
Hopefully murray and young can start something great in Atlanta play off each other's success and not worry about who's the best player on the team
Tony Parker is selfish yet he, along with Ginobili and Duncan, took paycuts after paycuts to build a legacy. Not one great/hall of famer has to stay back and mentor anyone. How many rookies came into the league and not once was ever mentored? That happens all the time and yet these players don’t say a word. Murray knows he couldn’t carry a team. It showed then, it shows now. They probably told him “we no longer need you” and he’s mad. Stephen Jackson stays mad. The only organization that kept him humble, he trashes. He did what he wanted in other teams cuz let him get away with it but not in San Antonio. Done with these clowns.
Spurs are going to suck for the next 20 years
Well said.
Just one mistake "They probably told him “we no longer need you”" should read He asked to be traded and the team did everything they could to get him where he wanted to go.
He did cheat on his wife
@@joejett5084 😅😂
Murray that dude
This was good
I'm from San Antonio alot of what there saying is truth
Ok but you saying you from San Antonio is irrelevant and meaningless you know that right?
I heard they got Big Ole Women down there in San Antonio.
I love Manu too!
Reason Y he my Idle 💯
This is all cap this man is complaining about his ROOKIE SEASON. Everything he talked about here is his rookie season because in his 2nd season he played 21 minutes a game and started 48 games. They even gave him 25 minutes and the starting role in his technical 3rd season where he returned from injury missing the entire prior season (he started 58/66 games). This man is having a meltdown about what almost every non lottery rookie goes thru💀💀💀
And the Argentinian pg he’s talking about was Nicolás Laprovíttola who was a FIBA cup mvp on the same international team as Manu. Of course they prioritized making one of their long time veterans in Manu happy over giving a rookie pg minutes.
4:35 - 5:35 yup, this is definitely gonna be the start of some type of NBA media controversy
It's his opinion though. Stephen Jackson's words don't have that effect
As a Spurs fan, this brother raised my respect for him!
you should have lost respect all respect for him man dejounte was trashing the spurs and saying they hold you back when the spurs developed him into an all star and the spurs gave him a 4 year 64 million dollar deal he's ungrateful asf
@@MichaelSevilla97 they do hold you back tho, but all good
@Michael Sevilla Stop whining..he's inside your on the outside as a FAN..so what the hell do u know?
@@jj47k. what I know is dejounte is ungrateful asf and karma will get his ass like it's getting kawhi
Bro, it’s a fact if you look at his stats, he was better player with the Spurs then playing for the Hawks and they are barely over .500 not really a good team
It's crazy bruh cus ManU is my favorite player/ Spur of All-Time, it's good to hear him talked about in a good light .. I knw I had good taste😂😂🤷♂️🔥🔥🤍🖤
Murray still has plenty of time to make his mark in this league, his time with the Spurs will go down as a good thing for him...Tony and Manu had to watch plenty of games from the bench before they got their time to shine...Duncan was the only one who got the green light from the jump and he still got chewed out lol
Tony must've tried to Holla at his Ol' lady🤣🤣🤣🤣
I know 2k ain't real life but man let me tell you, when we played the Spurs in 2k22 I hated seeing the Spurs because I'd go from 45 a game easy to 40 a game the hard way, had to pass more, lanes were closed off a bit more...2k don't get a lot of shit right but they got this Murray right! He was a defensive terror and so 2k made me wanna watch this dude play irl and I wasn't disappointed
Lol
Shout out to Manu!
Murray talking like he wasn't given a chance to be the man for the Spurs for the last couple of seasons and we all saw how that worked out.
In a morbid perspective,Pop made you a better player in a rude way
Totally agree. He’s probably out the league if he started on a squad like the Rockets or Hornets
Now the Spurs bottom 5 in the conference
That a load of crap. Dj tweeted pop was like a father figure to me and they used to be close, so how is that rude way?
Rude? No. Tough? Yes
@@milosmitic2071 Atlanta are dog shit too, lol.
They need to get a episode in with ginobli
W barber 🔥🔥🔥
Bruh really lived a 2k MyCareer story
He look like one too
I hear people talking crazy about Dejounte recently but if u from the 206 u know he’s a good guy. Me and everyone I know had good interactions with him cause he’s real.
🔥🔥🔥
Dejounte is so handsome. His baby mama is one lucky lady. He sounds like Chris Brown and looks like Jordan Poole. Wow!!
Pop kept you hungry
Spurs draft so well all the time
Stephen Jackson always gossiping smh
Got p^%%y breath bro
It happend to me in Varsity.. I was the best player, best scorer, but they knew I smoked weed and got suspended from school for cutting class.. After that I got benched games, barely played 10 minutes. Until I decided to quit the team and just avoid the nonsense, it was like bootcamp.
IN OTHER WORDS, YOU WERE, AND STILL ARE, AN UNDISCIPLINED CHILD INCAPABLE OF ADMITTING HIS MISTAKES AND HOLDING HIMSELF ACCOUNTABLE.
Pop did alot of MK ULTRA ON PLAYERS!!!
Wait hold up Tony went to get way more $$ in Charlotte to end his career why in the hell would he stay in San Antonio
Cuz his legs was giving out, of course ..its Charlotte why wouldn't they pay him more money.. they were desperate
He miss playing for the spurs I don’t understand why the spurs did not keep him . Dejounte worked hard and is a team guy with character the spurs and pop was good for him he will be successful wherever he goes now
Loved his as a Spur, but hearing him speak now, I can understand why they let him go... and also why he's not been a net positive in ATL's culture.
Dude was playing behind Hall Of Famers, and talks like he was entitled. Think DJM will ever be a HoFer?
All the Spurs did was make him a starter in his second year, give him a $64M contract, give him all the freedom he needed to almost average a triple double, and trade him to the team he wanted when they knew they couldn’t pay him what he would be able to get as a free agent. And he complains because he didn’t play enough as a rookie and, “Tony didn’t stay and mentor me. He’s so selfish.” smfh That’s not a very classy look. Focus on your current team and raising them from 8th in the East instead of going on a show with a Spurs hater and spreading venom.
Its an interview and they asked him a question. Where’s your logic?
@@lovelyj241 That’s a good point. Of course I can’t see into his heart. I’m just reacting to how his story comes across to me. That’s my story.
I also think it’s not just his story and his experience, I think the young bull is speaking for others as well! Look I use to be a huge spurs fan and they could do no wrong but I can tell there was a disconnected with some of their better players & young talent!
@@lovelyj241 No, he definitely is complaining when he says tony obviously didnt like it because he should have stuck around, made less money, got less minutes, and mentored me. That is some pretty petty crap to say when you got lebron james on speed dial. For anyone to believe that someone whose job you are taking by force should just happily sit back and train you at their job while taking a pay cut is ridiculous. Also his response about the fans believing in him more than the organization is maybe not complaining but is a statement that is in no way supported by the facts. What is belief in a person other than offering them 64 million dollars coming back from an injury that has ruined other nba players. They promoted you to starter above a hall of fame PG... sounds to me like they believed in him an awful lot. Team took a lot of crap when they made that decision, but they stuck with it.
@@alnoutbreakhmmmmm stay around and mentor a up and coming all star or sign wit the hornets get injured and never play a nba game again? Yes sounds like Tony was pretty selfish ya twat
Sounds like a rookie having to earn his stripes
@Lman34 don't matter if u better wen u play for an old school coach u gotta earn your stripes
@Lman34 who tf are u? Lik I said it don't work lik that practice is practice it's plenty mfs who can dominate in practice stop talking u ain't never played no sport at no high level
Pop always had his guys Tony, manu, Duncan everyone else never gave shit about of course Robinson too. This speaks why Kawi left. Duncan truly was the foundation of this team for so many years after he left the team and franchise has fallen apart
@Lman34 we can tell you never played basketball on a team
@Lman34 u need to do your homework on sports used to operate only up until the last 10 or so years did young guys play off the rip it didn't used to go lik that it didn't matter how high u got drafted u wasn't coming in starting unless u was completely polished all around the board lik lebron was, Kobe had experienced talented players in front of him not necessarily better but they were more ready to play than him in the Eddie Jones nick van EXEL etc those guys were all star caliber players
Tony Parker would’ve been a second/ third string PG if he wasn’t on the Spurs.
He is the Spurs franchise leader in career triple-doubles. They just traded him off for tanking season. Wembanyama played for Tony Parker's Euroleague team. He left after Murray got traded but the writing is still on the walls.
He told them he was gonna bounce in free agency. If you were the GM, what would you do? The Spurs asked him, where would you like to go and he mentioned Atlanta amongst others. They made it happen. They DID NOT do the same for Kawhi. Again I ask, what would you do in that situation?
They treated him fairly he didn't want to stay so they traded him
Victor Wembanyama to Spurs #1 overall pick to be their young Gen Z version of Tim Duncan? 👀🤔
even when he was averaging triple double. they were a 7 to 8 seed. I am not saying he was not good, but the overall team the way they were constructed. So yes I would rebuild the team
80's Celtics: Bird, McHale
80's Lakers: Magic, Kareem
90s Bulls: Jordan, Pippen
00's Lakers: Shaq, Bryant
00's Spurs: Duncan, Ginobili, Parker
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Stephen Jackson in 2003: 🤔☁ (Duncan, Jackson)
Pop: Umm, no.
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Stephen Jackson in 2023: 😡
so was he thankful for how SAS handled him or no? they got some crazy draft capital from his trade, considering where he was drafted (in the 20s). so u cant argue with the business angle of it
Jackson sounds crazy
Spurs are all about players that got over themselves. That put team ahead of them.
DJ never did that. Thats why we gave him the most shots since Tim Duncan in 2001 (!!!!) so his trade value goes up and we can rob the Hawks.. and that is what exactly happened.. and now he‘s mad because everybody thinks he‘s overrated.. which he kinda is. Good player. Not great. And the Spurs got great player value for him.
Spurs will never be anything without tim y’all will never win again, Tim owns that franchise
@@cutc2k764 okay kiddo
Nobody thinks babyboy is overrated bruh
@@demetrewilkins8485 Do you think the Hawks overpaid him? Do you think he's worth all these picks?
@aMiFiii "The players you all got for him played well for us, but they are not what we need to get over the hump." Players?? Bruh, he got traded for picks. Thats the value of this trade. We dont give a ratsass about the players lmao We waived Galo. God, you're such a casual.
damn jack went in lol
Jilly for the skreets
The spurs are the last organization that doesn’t allow egos to consume its players. That’s why they got rid of Murray. Idc if the spurs never make the playoffs again, I want them to be stuck in their ways. Every other team is filled with guys that are egotistical. Giannis is the last superstar without a major ego
When Jackson says they hold you back I'm like what. Kawhi was finals mvp, all nba teams, 2 time DPOY, after he left spurs he has been all star 2 times and finals mvp that's it he has not been top 5 in mvp sense he left. Dejounte was all nba defense and all star with spurs lets see what he does but jackson just jealous bcs he was not chosen over manu and tony for big 3.
Hear me out. Maybe just maybe Jackson actually played on the Spurs, with a shaky off the court reputation, and understands their system and how they treat players. Jack & Dejounte both had to learn that Defense was the key to getting PT on the court and the team hierarchy. Every team has their own culture and politics. It’s not really that complicated to see what they’re both explaining
Kawhi was better After he left and he’s also been injured
@@MacP12 What so he left in 2018. 2019 he won the championship sense than what has he done ? Not even close
@@josebedoy2333 he has a degenerative knee, he's been injured that's not his fault, yet i remember spurs got mad cause he didn't wanna play through that injury.
@@iPoeticProphet That's not his fault just stop. Everybody knows he does not like to play a full season he will sit 2 games straight just because he has a broke fingernail. If you not from SA don't talk. He had a quad injury even the highest quad injury will force you to be out 3-4 months. He was out 7 months without any word of his recovery. Nobody forced nobody to play. Everybody knows spurs is 1st class organization that likes to take care of their players. Pop was first in this era to bring up load management so just stop.
Stak is delusional if he thinks the Spurs ever feared “seeing him.” 😂
1000%. It’s like gunslinger stories, everyone’s a badass. Dude really claimed he was better than Ray Allen and Vince Carter 😂
Don’t forget he thought he was better than Manu as well.
@@ActiveRehabMobility don’t do this lmao
Stwphwn jackson always talks himself up more than what he really was. He seriously thinks he was an all star player. He has kenny smith syndrome.
😂😂😂
Future Raptor
When SJ talks about Manu wow!
I don't think TP is the best teammate, from these anecdotes, to the Barry stuff, and even the comments about Leonard's injury being nowhere near as bad as his. Having said that, he owned his role and helped the spurs dynasty. I also agree about how sa perceived dejounte (a klutch client) and his 'smoking/ drinking posse' that shit isn't for everyone. Credit to murray for making it out but idk why you've got to bring all these ppl with you. I'm sure some of these ppl helped him but 30 mofos? Sa made the right choice getting rid of this headache. Wish him the best but the way he talks makes it seem like he's a ticking time bomb.
wow tony
Waiting for Stack to say AD is better than TD
Team Dejounte
Which team? He is probably going to be on his 3rd team soon
@@mt3s Maaaaaaaaaan. Honestly I'd be good with that. Hawks are ehhhhhhhh.
The Argentinian point guard he referred to only played 18 games with the Spurs in DJ's rookie year, so that's kinda bs. I can believe him on the Tony Parker remarks, knowing Tony, but honestly I think DJ may be projecting his own frustrations onto the franchise here. Yes he's a good player now, but the preseason to his 3rd year right before he hurt his ACL, he was on a totally different trajectory then, could have maybe even become a superstar. Now, he just does not have the same lift and explosion.
With all due respect. DJ acting like he blossomed into a superstar player and if TP was some scrub.
Ik Stak ain’t say TP cost us rings😂 it definitely wasn’t the absolutely stacked western conference and lack luster performances from key bench guys like YOU, but it was the multi time all star and finals MVP TP🤣
Boy that haircut is crispy
That's the French for u from, manuuuuuu
Tony Parker was treated worse by Pop than both these guys. Duncan and Ginobili have said that as well. Yes he has a ego. 19 year old and comes in the league and within 2 years takes Avery Johnson spot. Jack acts like he was better than Tony. If Tony was selfish he contributed to 4 titles. For Jack acting like he wasn't he helped with 1 but because Manu was taking his mins and he didn't like that Pop shipped his ass off to never winning another chip land. As for Murray the kid is just soft. You get coached hard in San Antonio. Even Duncan wasn't above it. Murray needed to prove he was the guy. He's talking about pre season. You have to do it in the season. He made the all-star team. But being a all-star and being a championship caliber player aren't the same thing. When he was given the chance he just wasn't the guy. That's why they traded him. Start from scratch. Now DJ plays behind TY. It suits him as a second or 3rd option. He can't lead a team. He can only contribute. Just like Jack
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