The Deprogram Episode 62: A Latin American Marxist's perspective (Ft.
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- Today we continue our tradition of talking about events and philosophy from different parts of the world - with reputable Marxists from those parts of the world. Joined by Diego Ruzzarin we tackle Jan 8th in Brazil, Cartels, Socdems in South America, Marxism, Spinoza and much more.
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There's something so soothing about watching los perros napping, Hakims juicy thighs, JT playing a N64, an AK-47, Yugos gold chains and boots, and the shining sun beaming down on this glory. Slava
*GameCube
@@trentwolfgram9571 *Xbox
It does look like fun kick-ass scene to be a part of LOL
Contradicting profile pic
@@israelvaldivia2686 how so? Are you unfamiliar with Yuri Gagarin?
Off to the LULAG for the conservatives!
'Freedom is the subjective ignorance of the causes that limit us.' This is too good, I'm looking this shit up!
A Brazilian comrade, hell yeah
FUCKING finally! The only truly international podcast has done it again!
Definitivamente, este es el momento más esperado por toda Latinoamérica unida
Spinoza was really the GOAT. His approach to philosophy was an ideal bridge for the mystical to develop into the rational. Spinoza had a highly natural/materialist view of "God" to the point where his contemporaries mislabeled him as an atheist. Truly an inspiring philosopher then and now. I love the Hegel and Einstein quotes about him as well
João Carvalho tem que aparecer nesse podcast, o tio é foda po
SIIIM!!! Precisamos de comunas brasileiros no Deprogram já! Voto no Tio e no Ian.
Droga, chegaram primeiro mas eu vou mandar em imperialismo para eles virem. 😅
Yeess!!
¡Por fin se dio el momento de Latinoamérica en El Desprograma!
This was a very special episode to me, as a Dominican Marxist (living in one of the most right-wing and politically isolated Spanish-speaking countries of Latin America, but also having studied in northern Mexico where Ruzzarin currently lives) because I could relate a lot with what Ruzzarín explained. I've already had the pleasure of knowing about his content since 2021 (thanks to lots of my university friends, some of which studied or are currently studying with him on his post-doctorate), and despite my general divergences with his ecclectic and heterodox ideological positions (especially regarding the influences postmodernist authors and the red-brown _"Gustavo Bueno's philosophical materialism"_ school of Santiago Armesilla have had on him lately), I think his analisis of Latin American politics and the strategy to the future was generally correct.
I also appreciate a lot the interpellation you guys did (especially Hakim and Yugopnik) when Ruzzarin's more "academicist" side appeared in the conversation (he suffers a lot from that in his videos but at least he's humble enough to recognize it from time to time), I think the direction you gave to the conversation helped bringing the best out of him. Nothing but respects for all of you.
P.S.: Just in case people don't know, Diego Ruzzarin is a bourgeois (he has quite a few enterprises and investments). Yet his allignment with Marxist and left-wing politics is very intriguing, in a good way.
Lo dicho hermano muy buen comentario. Eso de que Ruzzarin es un burgués pues siento que somos mas los burgueses los que tenemos la oportunidad de estar expuestos a estas ideas y estos pensadores. Cómo bien lo explica él mismo en uno de sus videos, cuanto puede aprender alguien que constantemente está en conflicto en su casa o que constantemente tiene hambre. Nos toca a nosotros hacer causa común con los trabajadores que al fin también lo somos y más nos vale darnos cuenta por que muchos estamos a una tragedia, un accidente, una enfermedad o un capricho del destino de ser pobres también. Sólo que muchos no lo aceptamos. De verdad ayudar a mejorar las condiciones del prójimo es ayudarnos a nosotros mismos por que nunca sabemos cuándo nosotros mismos estaremos en sus zapatos. Saludos!
@@luzbella3242 Efectivamente. El mismo Lenin reconoce en su _"¿Qué Hacer?"_ que la consciencia de clase más elevada no le viene al proletario obrero industrial de su propia experiencia laboral o de vida, sino que le es introducida de manera "externa" por elementos de otra clase, la intelectualidad (sea burguesa, pequeñoburguesa o, en ocasiones menos comunes, también proletarias). Y si miramos a los grandes líderes revolucionarios (Marx, Engels, Lenin, Fidel, el Che, Ho Chi Minh...) una parte muy considerable de ellos han venido de familias acomodadas de la baja nobleza (Lenin), terratenientes (Fidel, Ho Chi Minh) o burguesas (Engels, Marx, el Che).
Lo que no deja de ser una sorpresa interesante es que esos hombres y mujeres se atrevan a ir contra sus propios intereses materiales, y hacerse "traidores de clase", para defender una verdad histórica. En ese sentido el aprecio hacia Ruzzarín adquiere otro matiz (con todas las divergencias y críticas que pudiera tener hacia su ideología ecléctica y heterodoxa).
Bueno sí. Tienes razón. A lo mejor lo sorprendente es que lo vocalicen. Por que si creo que hay muchos en su misma esfera material que lo piensan aunque no lo digan o que lo dicen sólo a puerta cerrada. Mientras hay otros que se dan cuenta de lo cerca que están de la precariedad pero no saben cómo expresarlo y menos que hacer para evitarlo. Pero de alguna manera lo sienten. Pir mi profesión y por mi condición familiar me muevo en un extraño espacio entre la clase trabajadora y la clase media alta a alta. La tensión de las clases altas se nota aunque no lo expresen. Muchos, creo que si se permitieran entrar en contacto e interactuar con estas ideas estarían de acuerdo o ya lo están sin saberlo conscientemente. Como sea es bueno que alguien de su condición material lo exprese por que es más difícil para las clases capitalistas tratar de deslegitimizarlo llamándole como nos llaman envidiosos y demás
"Too far from God, too close to America" 😭 😭
I fucking love Diego, he's been a guest on other podcasts and he's always a great conversationalist with broad interests and ideas. Glad you had him on boys!
This episode was NOT long enough
The people's struggle demands that Yugo and Hakim get V-tuber models. I'll never stop.
We, the proletariat, demand it, as a basic need.
Lmao have you listened to the Hasan episode yet? He practically begged them both to become v tubers 😆 basically said it would guarantee them millions of subs lol. You've been vindicated!
This was legit one of my favorite episodes so far.
I wish you guys would talk to Ian Neves (Historia Publica on most social medias). I really like his takes and he is very good at debates and expressing his identity both in Portuguese and English.
I am going to watch him, thank you! :)
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OMG, YES! I always thought that it would be a great ideia to have him on the podcast. He's a great communicator and teacher, the one responsible for radicalizing me. So, if it wasn't for him I probably wouldn't be listening to the pod today. His video on Margaret Thatcher is a must watch (sadly, it doesn't have subs in English).
Yes please, that would be great
Is that a m************ Brazil reference?
But Yes, Ian would be a great guest (I found about about Hakim watching him)
Diego should join the Deprogram team to cover another corner of the world.
Best crossover ever
Great profile pic, fellow Egoist.
@@nowhereman6019 Im a socialist, but never bothered to change my pfp
@@patriciogarcia9799 all socialist, fascists, capitalists, anarchists, etc. are already Egoists, whether they are conscious of it or not. So you're good.
@@nowhereman6019 Being Egoist is a tautology, actually. We're all "Egoist" (either we consciously aknowledge it or not), because we all follow our will of life (and power) either individually (as a person) or collectively (as a social class) in every single action we do, either altruistic or selfish.
@@Ajente02 agreed
THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU
So much for doing this show. I’m a Mexican living in the US. Been listening to The Deprogram almost from the beginning. Listened to every episode at least twice. I have been thinking how good it would be to include the Latinamerican experience into the show and finally here it is!!!
I’ve been binging on Diego’s videos since Friday. Thanks so much again.
Love you camaradas 😘
this is the fucking best day of my live grande diego!!!!
Amazing right? I feel like such a fanboy right noe
I really like this guy his philosophical insights and I'm in constant agreement with his takes.
Potential new addition to the crew 👀👀
Bring this guy more often , this episode was a blast! And politicize aesthetics
Society of the Spectacle was Debord not Baudrillard but glad to see talk of in the discussion! I like this guy a lot and will certainly enjoy learning more from him!
Both Baudrillard 'Simulation and Simulacra' and Debord ''Society of the Spectacle' are very important work that really should be required reading for any leftist in the modern day. I cannot emphasise the importance of them, except that they reframed the way I seen things immeasurably, like first Marx probably did for you.,
Read read read TH-camanons! :)
He always confuses them.
@@jimmytimmy3680 It's Okay! I just wanted to clarify for others.
So do I, I had to look it p to be sure with myself... Quite frankly when I heard this I was excited to understand I'm not the only one to confuze the two! xD
Just finished the new Hakim deprogram highlight video! Yes!
Let's go! Love you boys, this show is half the reason why I love Fridays!
Is there any others you would recomend watching or listening? :)
@@svodcat7524 idk don't usually listen to podcasts but I'd suggest checking out the channels on these guys' respective YT profiles if you haven't already
Ahuevo Dieguito!! Muy bien Camaradas!
I think Diego meant wheat when he said corn in 1:15:00 😜
I'm currently in episode 30, but I skipped all to listen to Diego Ruzzarin with you guys!
he meant maize
US English [corn] = maize
Systemic inflammation due to suggest overconsumption ➡️ high fructose corn syrup
It's been proposed that systemic inflammation interferes with decision-making, which is how I knew he meant maize.
28:45 For those who want to know more about the 7 lefts. Below I leave a playlist of the Spanish philosopher Santiago Armesilla.
There are English subtitles when you press the CC button
th-cam.com/play/PLEZarNjGjeTFw6yx2f2ft9_Z3_FtEyavk.html
Ugh. In Spain we know him very well. Is a reactionary moron that praises spanish empire as a sort of "protocommunism" (i kid you not). He is so leftist he used to be the guest of a spanish nationalist organization called DENAES (defense of the spanish nation) created among others by a guy called Santiago Abascal, who is now the leader of our far right party VOX.
I don't recommend listening Santiago Armesilla, his a nationalist chauvinistic who sells the idea of empire as a good thing
Thank you for the episode!
Pretty hype. Been looking at what's happening in Latin America and wondering what it's all about from a non-western media/liberal perspective.
I can't stop smiling with this collab
I subscribe to the ideology of cozy in the sheets, dapper in the streets
"I tend to describe myself more as a Neo-Spinozist, not completely becoming a vulgar materialist"
I like this guy.
Edit: oh yeah, I REALLY like this guy!
Edit 2: He's got Evangelion themed merch. I love him.
He's got some content in english as well. I've been following him for a long time and it's amazing
@@juanperez-lh9mt links to any of his good English stuff? I didn't look to deeply yet.
Incredible 😤
damn this guy is extremely based, you need more guests like that
Absolute banger! Here’s to a beautiful new year.
As a fellow Latin American following your show this is special for me. Amazing Collab. Regards from Japan.
This one is so complex - to learn about the abstract philosophical underpinnings seems so unproductive, it seems like we should focus on getting out and doing things, but it makes sense - the left only exists when people are theoretically well-versed - otherwise, you'll just get people who are well-meaning, but still sucked into the liberalism of our era, because they're not thinking deeply about the underpinnings of reality, and going deeper into philosophy from there could give all of us even more insights. Of course, that sounds strange to a lot of people, the people who are already well-versed and have taken years and decades to contumplate, read all these figures, and get deeper into thought, and because this is a weak connection that the Deprogram has brought to us this man who has gotten much deeper into the philosophies than I have as of yet. It makes sense, though - I talk with a lot of people, and the average person is a liberal in this era and place, and they have really bad understanding of really basic things, like not understanding the government is not really working for you, but instead (ultimately, after a lot of layers and nuance) for capital, or why political parties are making things worse, or even worse than that, when people get conservative thoughts and they are actively part of the aggressors, rather than just passively. So, this might be super important to dive into this philosophy, as I might be that ignorant about a lot of my thoughts about the world, as ignorant as I understand these people to be now that I've started to understand more things. Thank you very much
Couldn’t agree more. I truly believe that going back to the philosophical fundamentals is immensely important in giving substance and direction to any movement, no matter how modest. The further you go into the most basic principles(for example: What is Freedom?), the more you improve your understanding of the Ideology. This ultimately allows one to clearly distinguish proper Leftism from the common Liberalism but also makes the study of adversary movements such as Fascism much more accurate and pertinent.
@@kerkoubmohamedlemine4079 Yes, that is very true. A lot of liberals are well meaning, even can get these big movements going, and really are convinced that they are in just fights - and, I don't want to disparage people's work, as a lot of this does get people to start getting deeper and push leftward, but you can really position yourself a lot better from the start if you really get into the fundmentals, as you've said. (And to get back to the liberal point, anyone who is going to make truly astounding plays has to break out of thinking of their era, and in this era, that means you have to get to socialist or leftward to truly change things - I really do believe that you would just naturally have to become a leftist, even if you don't recognize that, that there is no way around it.) You get going, and you start realizing how flawed your conception was, and that, of course, is because of deliberate manipulation - you just rip apart all of these ideas like of patriotism (which you would have given to a nation of capital that is not your nation) or of debt (which, in reality, corporations often do not have to pay, they don't act responsibly, because this is their system), you inevitably want to learn more and you start ripping apart all of these institutions, reading Lenin and Graeber and all these figures, and you do fundantally transition in this sort of graduated equilbrium, in all sorts of ways, and, the better you do it, the more you change, and even the more you become yourself and don't change, oddly.
Oh this sounds Hella interesting I should look into this individual.
o verdadeiro podcast internacionalista!
I was surprised in south America, Bogota, Colombia everyone always dressed to the 9s. No one would be caught dead dressed as we do in the US.
that's Latin America in general. We've become more lax in Panama but people who are in pajamas in public are so rare we assume it's family/medical emergency
Wtf! I follow all 4 of you and just now I realize about this.
Good shit you guys brought Ruzzarin in👌
Top episode 62, thanks guys I enjoy this episode
what a lovely conversation
CONTENT ACROSS ALL PLATFORMS YASSSSSS🎉🎉🎉❤❤❤❤
Just a few more people and we can start rolling out the longevity.
I thought he was talking about the CIA when he asked the question about the world's worst criminals.
Diego Ruzzarin? More like Diego RIZZ-arin.
I've been NEEDING some Marxist content in Spanish, this is great, thank you
Wait, what are the 7 different types of left historically? I'm curious. (28:55)
It comes from a Spanish philosopher, called Gustavo Bueno, who did a weird lecture of Marx and created his own interpretation of the historical dialectics he called _"philosophical materialism"._ In his book _"El Mito de la Izquierda" ("The Myth of the Left"),_ he classifies all the historical leftist movements in 7 types:
*1) The Radical Left (Jacobinism):* emerged from the French Revolution (1789-1815) and had its main political project in the establishment of representative republicanism and the political nation.
*2) The Liberal Left (Spanish Liberalism):* energed from the Spanish War of Independence (1808-1814) and had its main political project in the Cadiz Constitution and the establishment of the Hispanic American independentist republicanism movements.
*3) The Libertarian Left (Anarchism):* emerged from the First International (1864-1871) and had its main political project in the works of Proudhon (mutualism), Bakunin (collectivist anarchism), and Kropotkin (communist anarchism).
*4) The Socialist Democratic Left (Social Democracy):* emerged from the Second International (1889-1914) and has its main political project in the welfare state.
*5) The Communist Left (Marxism-Leninism):* emerged from the Russian Revolution (1917) and the Third International (1919) and had its main political project in the dictatorship of the proletariat.
*6) The Asiatic Left (Maoism):* emerged from the Chinese Revolution (1949) and has its main political project in the new-democratic alliance between the peasantry and the national bourgeoisie with the proletariat.
The number *7)* is called by Gustavo Bueno and his followers *Undefined Left* because, while the other six types had a very defined political project and clear objectives, this type of "leftists" (if they're even allowed to be called "left" to be honest) only adhere to vague conceptions of left-wing aesthetic, sociocultural, academic, or moral values, and have no universal concrete/particular political goal in mind.
I personally disagree with Gustavo Bueno, his thought school, and all this classification in many aspects, but would be too long to explain here.
@@Ajente02 Cool, thanks! that definitely seems like something I was not going to find from googling from the looks of things (which I did try).
And yes, I am inclined to agree with your general disagreement at this classification, it seems like just earmarking important events in the history of the left while ignoring other projects as well as some potentially less dramatic splits/developments. :/
28:45 For those who want to know more about the 7 lefts. Below I leave a playlist of the Spanish philosopher Santiago Armesilla.
There are English subtitles when you press the CC button
th-cam.com/play/PLEZarNjGjeTFw6yx2f2ft9_Z3_FtEyavk.html
@@typha You could've had easily found them, but obviously you would've needed to search in Spanish (Gustavo Bueno's writtings are very fringe and almost unknown outside of Spain). Santiago Armesilla, a quite well-known "Gustavo-Buenist", has a TH-cam channel where he explains in great detail the 7 types of leftist movements (as well as their right-wing counterparts).
My main disagreements with the classification are the inclusion of Jacobinism and Spanish Liberalism within the left (they're centrist positions, or even center-right, at least by today's standards), the separation of Maoism from Marxism as if they were two different things, and the very concept of _"Undefined Left"_ (which is just another way, kind of despective in my opinion, to call progressive liberals and socialdemocrats - already included in 1st, 2nd, and 4th type).
The music slaps!!
Is Diego Yugopnik's brother from another mother?
God this guy's a treat to listen to.
One clarification on what our fantastic comrade Diego said today (and I'm sure he was implying something similar to this even in his comment) : History does not exactly flow forward, to be inherently better. We all know the thing about neolithic peoples being happier and then agriculture came in, but I don't mean that concept - I mean that liberties and rights, the ability to live your life freely, and to be free of other people's oppressions in any way (including things like freedom from coercision, freedom from prejudice, acceptance, ability to be able to get enough resources to live freely), (and my apologies for this being an a Usonian-centric, Far-Westerners-centric example) in the lands that would be the US, in 1750, if you were gay, theoretically, you could be executed - in reality, that really never happened. There are documented examples of ladies living together, effectively being married lesbian couples, being created as a couple, you could even get a little business setup and earn money through the cottage production system, right up into mid-1800s. In 1950, it was open-season on you - you could be thrown in prison for decades for being gay. The history of African Americans is just filled with ups and downs since emancipation - communities start making a little money, get crushed to stop their economic power from building up. You get things getting better, you get the Civil Rights times, boom, War on Drugs, mass-incarceration. For people in mental institutions, de-institutionalization is a wonderful thing, and the best ways to go are to get people in communities, and have a society that looks out for them, regardless of who they are (which, of course, takes solidarity across to all people, liberation from prejudice which inevitably takes socialism). De-institutionalization happens during the French Revolution, things get better, then it all starts back up and the asylums are just as bad. De-institutionization happens in the US, and then mass-incarceration hits people with mental diseases just like it hits most all other groups that those in power (being capital in a capitalist society) needs to keep down.
History is not a process of getting better - it's not something you get to go back to brunch on - we have to fight, and we have to fight forever. I have learned this from just a handful of sources, from my United States university courses (IE not radical sources at all), news, just open history we all can get - and yet I found and know massive amounts of oppression, fights for liberation, and push-back against those gains in freedom. If I know this, as little as I know, that means there is massssssively more of this, and that it's a general pattern in history - history doesn't just get better, it's more like a sinosodial-ish wave - it goes up and down, and this one, if no one fights, it just keeps going down, getting worse and worse, not better, with time. Even in socialist revolutions we have lose things, from the Soviets who went from a nation where it was not illegal to be gay, and one that was pushing to take down capitalism, to the 1970s where there is now a much worse set of ideals running in a society that was fine keeping peace with capitalism, and was bound to be destroyed. We all know this - we even know of powers we call counter-revolutionary. You see gains in Chile, with real strides towards socialism, with a government in place, then counter-revolutionary forces, namely pushed by the US, and then Franco is in power, and the nation goes from a hotbed of socialism to a fascist dictatorship. Everyone, please remember, history does not move forward - that is only, mainly, when we take action that can happen, that we can make things better, and not many other ways can things get better, unless we fight.
Well said comrade
@@juanperez-lh9mt Thanks - it is strange, the deeper you go, the more you realize this is a fractal, and that we have to keep going and learning more, or we are going to be so lacking of our conception of reality, and we will hurt people. So, we gotta keep going.
Marx and Engels usually described history, in a very famous Hegelian figure, not like a rect line, but like an upward spiral. It sometimes goes up and down, it zig-zags between progress and reaction, but with a general tendency forward. That process wasn't mechanical, though: social classes were the conscious actos in that movement happening in the first place. And it wasn't a fatalist direction either: history could perfectly lead society into it's own degeneration or even extinction (as the aphorism "Socialism or Barbarism" perfectly explains).
@@Ajente02 I love that shape - I will have to use that, the cone of progress, or maybe the cylinder forward.
@@blessedandbiwithahintofmagic I personally prefer the analogy of the sinusoidal curve you exposed, or even better, an upward conical helix. But they're all great geometrical representations of the flow of progress in history.
What even is a “post-modern, neo marxist?”
Every time I see that JP clip, I get so uncomfortable. . . pure word salad
especially since post-modernism by its nature rejects the sort of "history moves in a certain direction" ideas found in marxism.
and even assuming this is some reimagining of marxism, if you remove the "history is the progression of class struggle" bit then it's not really marxism anymore.
@@winsonzhu4427 Yeah, basically the last one thing you mentioned. Even if you stretch the concept of "Marxism" to include some writters from the Frankfurt school like Adorno, Marcuse, or Horkheimer (the ones who originally called themselves "Neomarxists"), they were still operating under a modernist paradigm - even when their ideological developments became incompatible with the principles of Marxism, just like in the case of other authors like Toni Negri and Michael Hardt ("Post-Marxists").
Also, we must remember those thinkers were an extremely fringe part of their respective academic ecosystems (which are, at the same time, extremely fringe parts of their respective societies). Neither the "Neo-Marxist" Frankfurt school, nor the Post-Marxist autonomism of Toni Negri, were in any moment the hegemonic or dominant currents of their academic ecosystems, furtherless of any impact outside of them (not even mentioning the workers' movement, who barely know about them in the first place).
My favorite part is even non Marxist people would point out that JP himself is talking like a post modernist.
Oh dis gonna be gud
At last they talk about latino América
I really enjoy the more serious episodes but it has also shown me that this baby leftist does not have enough foundational knowledge. I think we need some more 101 episodes on the basic terms.
Already started loving when the backstory came
The only reason i love fridays.
saludos from chile!!
'The Cuk pit???'
BARBARA PIT!
Okay diego was one hell of a guest. Imma check him out
Pajamas are for the cozy
you'all are crazy - t-shirts and track suits are the best style for men + the army uniform, of course
16:40 If you want to check out the debate between Diego and the Financial Guru. Look for:
Carlos Muñoz Diego Ruzzarin /debate I leave a link in a comment below. I can't post a definitive link because the video is taken down often.
There are english subtitles if you press the CC button. Translate to english /in some old devices is unavailable
th-cam.com/video/5NjXGhax6MM/w-d-xo.html
second -thought- link th-cam.com/video/xm-x1EOVd-o/w-d-xo.html
This guy is brilliant and was the biggest inspiration for my communist comeback (after a ~7 year hiatus)
11/10
*YHWH seal of approval*
It's good to hear more theory lately. The screwing around is fun, but I've been missing the meatier stuff. Well, pendulums were made to swing back and forth, right? Each motion serves a purpose.
It’s so interesting that Diego was a guest on this podcast. He does fine work, but he sins of mixing his references often (The Society of Spectacle is a book by Debord, Diego, not Baudrillard!). At the very least he’s efficient at putting out his message. He also was a guest on a different podcast on the same episode that my high school History teacher (an anarchist) appeared.
Brooo this one !!! Cozzzzeeeboyyys
Eeeewww I just got a Rumble ad 🤢 but other than that, the podcast is great as usual hope you’re all doing well.
As above, so below: History repeats itself.
Sisek vs Peterson -> Then: Ruzzarin vs Carlos Muñoz
Quien sigue? Argamasilla?
Me *ENCANTARÍA* ver alguna vez un debate entre Roberto Vaquero o Pau Botella con alguno de los chicos de The Deprogram sobre el socialismo realmente existente, o el progresismo cultural y el interseccionalismo. Sé que solo es un sueño húmedo, pero no dejaría de estar épico el encontronazo.
The people's Revolutionary Algo comment
What are pajamas? It's only been a couple of years since I started feeling safe/comfortable enough to stop sleeping in my boots. The idea of deliberately wearing the thinnest/ weakest clothing ever, when I'm about to be unconscious for hours, scares the shit out of me. But I don't think I got the normal American experience. I love your work, you guys.
no we are not bread tubers, we are potato tubers
I am autistic
Yes
"Proletariados de toda Latinoamérica, únanse."
Ahorita.
Can someone more read up on the subject refer me to more knowledge about Diego’s theories on food etc?
1) 6:40 I don't think Classical music is bourgeois... it does give people an excuse to indulge in bourgeois prejudices but the music itself is not bourgeois.
Most classical music pieces (and some opera) have enjoyed a long, healthy life in the public domain. And which entertainment medium popularized for most of the younger generations? Cartoons. Classical music has been able maintain it's relevance over the years almost exclusively as set dressing for cartoons, especially Looney Tunes & Tom and Jerry.
What shorts are usually considered the best cartoon shorts of all time?
The Cat Concerto
What's Opera, Doc?
Pigs in a Polka
The Rabbit of Seville
Long Haired Hare
A Corny Concerto
Classical pianist Lang Lang said he became a musician after seeing The Cat Concerto, hell even I admit that was one of the reasons I started playing piano as well... but I digress. I will die on this hill before I let some reactionary hack try and claim classical music for the bourgeoisie.
2) I remember in my senior year of high school, my younger friends would always harp on me for wearing blazers and dress shirts to school... little did I know that I was a pioneer in hipster couture. Lucky me...
All jokes aside, I would wear blazers, button-ups, and eventually bow ties for a long time. It all started when I went as The Penguin for Halloween in high school. The bow tie made into my wardrobe in a similar way, I went as the Second Doctor (Patrick Troughton) for Halloween in college. My profile picture is actually of me in my Halloween costume in 2014. I would still wear all the stuff I did in college if I didn't gain so much weight over the last ten years.
I won't lie though... I thought I looked damn good. I'd wear dress shirts open with a solid color t-shirt underneath, I started getting polarizing film on my glasses, I had a couple of nice leather jackets too. Had I not absolutely bottomed out mentally at the time I would've been unstoppable. lol
The very fact it is called "Classical" music is because it's elevated liberalist bourgeois nonsense in the minds of many. It as a name doesn't give you any utility as to what kind of music it is! Genres of music are usually descriptions or some kind of onomatopoeia. EDM, Hip Hop, Rock n Roll, Jazz, etc.
Classical Music as actual music is not bourgeois, but it's elevation, naming, and framing mostly are. It's elevation to 'mythical' status amongst other Genres lends itself to that.
@@matthewjeffrey9190 Names only come about because of convenience. What the music is called doesn't matter. But we can totally fight back on the narrative. We're not reinventing the wheel. Sure it'll be a chore, but better to fight back against bourgeois appropriation then to just let certain aspects of culture to die slowly as nothing more than window dressing.
@@PatrickCervantez Bourdieu would heavily disagree with you. The power of definition, of naming, is extremely important. What it does is gives European orchestras a standing of Theatrical Myth over the rest of the world.
The ethos behind defining what genres are is important, because you can find how anglo or European imperialism imprints itself globally as the culturally 'civilised' and 'advanced'. How Spotify or Music outlets tell us Indigenous Australian what genres are important is projection of such bourgeois mentality.
@@matthewjeffrey9190 I can see how my previous statement came off as reductive. I was focusing more on the meaninglessness of labels rather than their overall intent.
However, I don't want classical music to be lorded over other genres of music like how it is currently. And my wish isn't just to hobble it so it stands on the same footing as other genres.
I want to strip music of its classist tendencies so it can be enjoyed by all without any sense of alienation. That in now way means I want to ignore how it's been used within the history of imperialism to subjugate other cultures. As both a musician and a fan of the art form, I feel kind of silly not looking at this more critically sooner. But I'm also not gonna sit around while cultureless reactionaries use it to look down on others.
hate to be that guy, but baudrillard didn’t write society if the spectacle; guy debord did
Capital humano
Hermoso, sensual, adorado, pero siempre reemplazable capital humano.
39:47 is social democracy good for proletarian LATAM?
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Why JT is always so quiet
I like to give guests more airtime. It can get a little overwhelming with four voices sometimes
Glad to see yall got Seth Rogan on!
I'm sorry.
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17:23 whom are you talking about? Whose career got destroyed. I want to watch the debate haha
Carlos Muñoz
Add breaks every 2 seconds. Thanks JT.
Don’t blame me, I didn’t do it 😭
Blame capitalism. -And install and adblocker.-
Does phone have the b-locker of adds?
I do have some problems with Diego in the fact that he's quick to judge the capitalist system but this doesnt apply when it comes to the food industry in México. Cant really respect a guy who doesnt speak up and criticize the owners when he hangs out with them.
There's only one downside to this episode. Diego is really interested in his story about the debates, but you can't watch them because you don't know Spanish(
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What about the LatinX perspective? /s
Do a collab with the anarchist TH-camr "veritas et caritas" !!!!
get andrewism on cowards
Nooooo this guy is the worse, he donsen't represent the view of the lati-american people on marxism
Do you know a content creator that does ?/gen
@@juliakiehl9557 BadEmpanada, funnily enough (even if he came from Australia).
@@Ajente02okay, I'll check him out later.
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I feel so sorry for JT having to put up with you guys hating on America as much as you all do.
Don't worry, I'm quite confident JT also hates the concept of "America" (as it currently exists and was historically founded, not necessarily its people or how could they develop in the future) as much as all of them.
Bring Uncle John! @assimdisseojoao
congratulations! You have to meet the people from @Soberana_TV.
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