B&T SRBS vs SUREFIRE RC3 (FULL REVIEW)
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- a video comparison and Review of the New B&T SRBS 556 (inconel model) against the SureFire RC3 suppressor.
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The difference in flash at night is insane. $1600 for a can with tons of flash opposed to $950 for one with almost none.
Just picked up my SRBS inconel full size this morning. As soon as the compacts drop Im going to pick one of them up mas well. I think these are the best value going at this time for what you get. The fact that its half price of the RC3 and performs better should be a no brainer for folks. On top of that B&T's mount design is superior as well. I have heard they originally designed the mount and that makes sense because Surefire wouldn't just let them produce their own version of it. Thanks for the video gentlemen.
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B&T all day.
Exactly, and I have the fat girl 7.62 RBS
@maze1914 THATS A HOSS. We had a Compact 762 Rbs for a while. I wish we kept it for a belt fed. Sound was interesting. It sounded like a Gun shot. But with the Volume turned waaaaay down. At first I didn't think I'd like it, then took off my ear pro and realized I was 5ft behind a 308 gun with no hearing discomfort. But I will admit. That series was Heavy. I'd really like to see how many rounds it can handle cyclic before popping though.
There have been a lot of discussions on the RC3 fireballs. Test show, and per surefire instruction, you need to use the pronged flash hiders only to git signature mitigation. It's a bummer for sure, especially for all of us (myself included) that have surefire muzzle brakes. Not to mention the 20 bill price tag after tax!
I have used the 3 prong quite a bit along with the muzzle brake and at night I don’t see much of a difference
I'm glad I found these videos. Bought my B&T 5.56 today. I have about 1500 saved up for an RC3 and now I am not even going to bother with it.
i love my rc3... these guys are not using the recommended muzzle device (4 prong/3 prong flash hider)
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Pretty sure SF just says not to use a closed tine
Came across your video and fellas I want to thank you very much for that night time comparison between the two it's the best one that I have seen so far You just want a new subscriber keep up the great work look forward to seeing some of your other stuff coming forward.🎉🎉
good stuff, I didnt realize B&T made a surefire hub mount. thats bad ass... probably gonna need one.
If you deep dive. You'll find out they invented it... hence why they're allowed to make it.
Super helpful. Thank you, gentlemen.
Great video! B&T is leading the way in innovation for suppressors, surefire is trash all they’ve ever done is “borrow” designs. Surefires suppressor “designer” Barry worked at Opsinc where he took all their designs and polished them up using surefire r&d money, now that those designs are exhausted you won’t see any innovation coming from them
I've never gone that deep into it.
But hey. We had tried to reach out to you guys a while ago about some stuff. Figured we may be able to help each other out a bit. Haven't heard back.
That's interesting to know
Great video. How about a comparison of the B&T MINI-K vs Surefire Socom MINI-2 next 😁
We are just waiting on our next batch of mini K's to arrive.
First run got swallowed by pre orders
Thank you for your time sharing this review. How is the gas/blowback on the SRBS?
I think it would take a severely screwed up gun to make It gassy.
The Srbs series is actually Factory approved by FN to not void the warranty on SCARS.
I believe they are the Only suppressor approved by FN for the Scar
@@VbdRetail that's very interesting to hear! I have a SCAR and am looking at a HK MR762 which doesn't have an adjustable gas block. The only suppressor I've heard 100% works is the Huxwrx Flow 762.
@WalterRitchey well, we specifically brought the rotex 3 to the market in the US for mr762's. But ironically, B&T has OEM'd hk's suppressors and many firearms for a very long time. Their suppressors also don't void warranty for HK.
But I have to mention. The scar 16 is approved for only rotex and srbs, and the scar 17/20 the Srbs.
As for HK's, fire away.
And for glocks, the OLS doesn't void warranty. B&T can actually get things that Glock USA and HK USA cannot. Which is quite wild when you deep dive into the business relationships.
@@VbdRetail Hello! I have a SRBS 5.56 (full size, inconel) that I use on an APC 223 12in. I have the gas turned down to the lowest setting that the manual states, but I still get quite a bit of gas to the face. The ammo I have been using is standard 5.56/.223 55gr and 5.56 62gr and the blowback seems to be similar for all ammo. The suppressor is fully tighten to the mount and the mount + can is fully tighten to the gun. Not sure why I've been getting a good bit of gas to the face. The muzzle device I'm using is a B&T rotex/sf flash hider. Should I reach out to B&T?
@@MrSamalama25 how much gas do you feel without the suppressor?
Just ordered a B&T SRBS 5.56 full size in Inconel. SureFire adapter.. pretty excited. It’s my first one. I was never willing to wait a year for the c@nts tax stamp…hopefully it’s released quickly like most lately
We have been seeing a TON of 2-14 day turn arounds for individuals.
It seems the only ones longer are folks who may want to consider getting a Upin
@@VbdRetail sorry what’s a Upin?
@timgleason2910 a Unique Personal Identification Number.
It's for folks who have similar names to others who would be denied a Transfer. So for folks who frequently get delayed on transfers because they are a Jr. Or have a name like Mike Smith. Where there's other people with the same name that Cannot own a firearm/nfa item.
A Upin is something you make to seperate yourself from the other names, minimizing chance of delay during the background check. Since when they run "Mike Smith" a felon pops up. But you aren't that Felon.
@@VbdRetail thank you for the info
I got mine in 2 days
Did you try the RC3 with a 3 prong Surefire flsh hider? That is suppose to eliminate the flash?
Well done and informative, subscribed.
@Mark_L40 we appreciate it! Coming soon will be a Velos Review. And we may toss in an SRBS vs Velos vs Recce comparison.
How’s the gray color of the b&t? I love the gray and it seems like after some use it turns tan?
@PS-cc4hm so if you begin to really get the suppressor cooking, it will begin to turn a light fde almost bronze ish color.
We need to test it more, but we did heat one up, and poured a little water on it to cool it faster, and it appeared to remove that fde color. I'm not sure if that's an everytime thing or not. But so far it seems like that color can be removed if you would like to.
Personally I love the fde ish color they change.
Yep I have the B&T because surefire is overpriced and they should stick to dealing with flashlight warranties.
My Rotex 762 just came, my 1st! I've spent over a grand on SF muzzle devices. Can you tell me how hard it is to remove the SF-hub? I was thinking about buying a .22 & a 338 and I'd love to just move the adapter from model to model.
Thanks! I just realized this was a different video, I watched your sound comparison before ordering mine.
Awesome video. Quick question, how many mounts come with the B&T suppressor?
@@Suppress77 they come with a SureFire style hub. An A2 hub is available (not often but is an option). They do not come with muzzle devices.
Was the night footage with both cans on the same host?
@@TheMikeshannon yes. We test everything on the same gun, same muzzle device (if possible. On our other review, the velos was non capable of mounting to SF like the rest).
Good stuff. What's the weight comparison on both?
The full size SRBS with B&T SF mount is about 1oz heavier than the Rc3.
So its like a 18 19 inch can?
What is the warranty on B&T suppressor compared to everybody else?
Don't send a 762 through a 556 or try and melt it and you don't need to worry
It's a lifetime warranty
Help me something fundamental please - it seems that even with a can the noise levels are still high enough to cause permanent hearing damage - over repeated exposure. This means ear protection is still required for 556 and higher calibers. So, why invest in the technology and allow the government to create a database with your entry? I don’t see any gains - save those from using subsonic - hearing safe calibers in 9, 45, and perhaps 300BO, as examples. This is a sincere question- my apologies if the answer is in the duh - you should know this - realm.
@refuztosay9454 you commenting on this video. Purchasing things with cards. Visiting various websites. 4473's. Being a member or a range. Geographic phone location of being at a shop. Getting ammo etc... it's all in a database.
If you've ever purchased a firearm, in a shop. They have access to that record.
You're already in a database, so that doesn't matter.
And there's a huge difference in sound. Reducing sound levels a ton. For the shooter, for neighbors etc.
Shooting a magazine suppressed is way less hearing damage than one unsuppressed. You can think hunting on that. Or being at a range and someone 10 yards away isn't making you wish you had ear pro on.
You can also shoot at night without notifying the town. There's tons of upsides. But the whole "being on a list" aspect.... brother unless you don't use the internet. Drive a car without a computer, and only buy things in private sales with cash. They know. It's not hard to find out who is a gun owner in 2024.
I agree with the comment above. You are already on a registry the moment you buy a firearm and fill out a background check form for the ATF. They keep records so your attempts at staying “off the grid” for such things are in vain.
Great video
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8.11" ????? ...Uh... wanna try that again bro?????
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The rc3 is the same as the rc2 just with. Vented cap. Surefire pricing is a rip off. Surefire didn’t think they had any competition with their mounting hub so they raise the prices of their Silencers. Now that surefire has competition, they need to lower their prices
Do you know if the 5.56BT will mount to a 762SF muzzle device? I know the SF cans won’t allow it
They will so you need to be careful and double check
@@luckygunnerx30 that’s perfect, got a ak105 and the m24x1.5 5.45 muzzles are near impossible to find, 7.62 ones are attainable
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Do they break glass?
Have you had any experience with the B&T 7.62 SRBS?
They have yet to send us any. But we have quite the backorder waiting.
@@VbdRetail Thanks. Trying to decide between that and a SOCOM 7.62 Mini since the mini doesn’t seem to get produced but a batch or two per year
@@zachashcraft1126 well there's also the Rotex iii, which we had exclusively made in the US
@@VbdRetail Right. They’re traditionally baffled inconel cans?
@zachashcraft1126 the rotex 3 is a baffled suppressor. We have been putting it on an MWS and getting zero gas back to our face. But I have seen it run on overgassed guns, and there's a cloud at times.
So I can't honestly say it's "reduced back pressure" but I can say, compared to the RC2-762 on the same gun, its a hell of a lot less gassy. To the point folks asked if it was rbs
We have more testing to do, but so far. It seems the Nato A2 style mount it was designed around performs better than the SureFire Hub mount. I'd say if you wanted to run a SF mount, to get their A2 style copy. Rather than use a brake.
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Waiting for my LGS to call me to certify my form4 for my SRBS 🫡
Are you guys going to get the CAT suppressors?
If we get the opportunity. But I'm not in a rush. If we run into one and enjoy it, I'd be more persuaded.
Currently my concerning observations with CAT are
1. If you read their warranty. In the design there is an internal "screen" in the blast chamber designed to wear out in something like 500-1500 rounds. Which is not covered under warranty. Now the screen wearing is less a concern than "how is performance after its gone?". If it wears that quickly, I'd guess it plays a significant role in sound reduction. And all tests / reviews so far are on new suppressors. So I'd really like to see of it maintains that same level of performance over time.
2. Their attitude for being such a new company. I've got heavy K.B. vibes, which is fine. But with being so new, and bold claims paired with that attitude. It makes me wonder if they're going to stick around, or just going to dissappear and collect.
3. Not sure if they changed this yet or not. But last I checked. Their warranty only covers the use of their muzzle devices. But made a Hub suppressor. And during release had a very small amount of MD's compared to suppressors. Forcing majority of customers to either wait indefinitely or void the warranty.
That just doesn't sit right with me.
But, they may be great, the may be around for a while. Time will tell.
At some point we will cross paths with one, and I'd love to record our impressions/comparison. Because at the end of the day, what I listed above is pure speculation, and I could be incorrect.
@@VbdRetail thank you so much for the video. Really eye opening especially the flash performance of the B&T vs the surefire.
@rahealharisshabbir we've been waiting on this one for a while. I'm excited to see how the compact performs. We would have had one for the Rotex K, but we have a backlog of pre ords on those, so there wasn't one leftover to test ourselves. As more come through we will be getting videos out. You may see something soon on 110 Sass Actuals channel in the upcoming week or 2
@rahealharisshabbir as for the Rc3. We have had that for a while. And while I've always thought the price was insanely high. I wasn't too dis-satisfied on performance. But I was also comparing it to Hux. It was just a little louder than an Rc2, Flashier, but a very pleasant shooting expierence.
After putting these side by side. My thoughts have completely changed. The SRBS really knocked it out of the park.
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It "adds 5 3/8 to the end of surefire device" homie wth u talking about
@travisweldmaster7815 that's pretty self explanatory
@travisweldmaster7815 the muzzle device is not the barrel. Length added is off the muzzle device, not the threads...
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Are you running muzzle break or flash hider with the Surfire? That makes a difference
We've already tested with 3 prong and 4 prong. Not much of a difference.
But the brake would also effect the Srbs equally.
Surefire also failed to acknowledge that issue until after they released it. You'd think you'd consider all the devices you offer.
It just isn't worth what they're asking. Loud, flashy, and priced like it's made of platinum.
Wish bt would sell theirs mountless for cheaper
We offer it when in stock if you message us
Is the flash on the Rc3 worse than the Rc2?
Yep
Much worse
@@luckygunnerx30 since I’ve asked that question I’ve been able to shoot an Rc3 and Rc2 side by side in low light, and under night vision. I disagree. I posted the video on my account.
I don’t find the RC3 is worse than the Rc2. I didn’t test with a close tine, but with a 4 prong. The Rc3 was equal if not better in performance to the Rc2.
@@19840bwe have a video as well. It definitely seens worse than the RC2 we tried it on just about all the muzzle devices besides the warcomps. th-cam.com/video/73AwGebqYLc/w-d-xo.htmlsi=HZoojd_8Mc4ahZ-W
The RC3 would autogate my nightvision alot where an RC2 would not. My RC3 has definitely gotten flashier the more Ive used it as well.
I mean, like you said, it isnt a fair comparison. The BT is longer and larger diameter, so suppression will likely be a little better. That being said, it is heavier, the first round flash is much brighter than the rc3's, and it adds more overall length to your rifle. The rc3 is a better option for those wanting to avoid the obnoxious first round flash and wanting to keep a shorter weapon. The rc3 can be had for $1078 if you know the right people,...
Lol 8 point eleven?