First Impressions John Deere 3046R! How Much Does It Weigh?
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- First impression of the new John Deere 3046R! Tractor Time with Tim weighs the tractor with and without loader and gives shares his thoughts after using the tractor for a few days.
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I have a cab 3039r and I agree the joystick does make it hard to make small slow movements with the loader. The other thing I noticed is that the range selector lever is hard to feel when you have it in a range or a neutral position. I did add 3” wheel spacers and tractor is much more stable now. Other than those things I love the tractor, for me I could never go back to an open station.
Added 3 inch spacwes to mine,also.
Great info Brian, Thanks!
Great video thanks. Praying that you and Christy feel better soon! Also thanks for the closing scriptures and reading them is a nice touch. God bless!
I had a 3046R with a cab. I did turn it over. Very unstable. I now have a 3046R open station. I use it down in the woods a lot. I did put 4inch wheel spacers on. I love it.
Jim, the owners manual for the 3R series of tractors specifically states that when equipped with a FEL, the rear tires are to be mounted in the widest possible position and properly ballasted.
Tim and Christy, I am guessing you will find the lift capacity of the loader to exceed the specs. I have lifted some logs that calculated to be much heavier than the listed capacity. I have owned my 3039R since 2018 and use it mostly to feed my sawmill, make firewood, and some side work. You can see some of these vids of me picking up massive logs on my youtube page.
If the 3R series has a loader on it , the rear tires are supposed to be mounted in the wide position and properly ballasted per the operator manual . I haven't found mine to be tippy . It is set wide with the tires loaded .I know some do not have a loader .
I love the comparison with the both of you on the tractor . My daughter runs ours and she is 5.1 and I'm 6 foot .. Great video .
I’m glad you guys are feeling better and that’s my dream tractor
This is my dream tractor.More of the 3046 R please
One thing to remember about trailer weights is that it's only really the weight on the axle that matters, as long as you've got capacity on the truck end for some tongue weight. Our 5320 4wd with 3 weights per side and no rim guard, with loader and bucket, and the Shaver MV-50 stump grinder on the back (it weighs 1000#, IIRC), on the 18' 10k tilt, was right at 10k on the axles, and 2k on the truck. With a weight distribution hitch, it was fine. The 6.0L (Chevy gasser) didn't like it in the hills too much, but the rest of the K2500HD wasn't sketchy, and was inside all the axle weights. That was with the tractor loaded backwards and the stump grinder hanging over the tongue.
Glad you both are feeling better 👍💐💐
I think the scales are the best addition since the lift. I used to weigh my trucks and balance tire pressure based on corner weight. I think there is a word for that. We also weighed our personal vehicles at Purdue and did some vehicle dynamics calculations (early 70's). Maybe the 3R's are due for an update.
I used to have an open 3039R but I traded for a cab 3046R. I am short and one of the first things that I liked about the cab is the pedals are in a better location for me. They are a little closer to the seat so less reach. I do agree with you guys about the cable controls. That was certainly a trade off. You get used to it. However an electric over hydraulic control there would be great. Mowing tall brush on the hot humid days in eastern NC will convince you to get a cab.
Ps…. 14% of the folks that have watched this video have clicked the ‘like’ button…. That’s way too low. If your watching these videos and like the content, click the ‘like’ button… it’s a major contributing factor to the success of Tim and Christi’s channel.
Just traded my 3320 for 3039r.
Just wrote four paragraphs and deleted it all. Just going to say the 3320 was much better.
You are going to really like the 3 series in what you can do compared to the smaller ones. I believe they are the perfect size .
I love that tractor. Great video. I’m glad you guys are feeling better. Keep healing up.
I think the fairest comparison to the 3r is the Kubota Grand L 3560 in the open cab in the Kubota line. For whatever reason Kubota starts making the frame bigger and bigger as the Grand L series when it gets more HP. I would love to see you trade the LX 3310 for the Grand L 3560. That would be interesting to compare against the 3R as well as the big frame 2R like yours.
Hey Tim 🚜 I really enjoyed this video I always enjoy watching your videos and learning the information you have to share I hope you are all feeling better 🇺🇲
Thanks Thomas!
Nice video guys. Glad to see you both feeling better. Now would be a good time to do the ballast on three point thing as to see how much X amount of ballast on rear takes weight off front end with loader on.
I have a JD 4720 that makes the same noise on startup, then seems to "warm-up", then everything quiets down. It has been doing this since new in 2013 and I assume it is a normal condition.
Great video sir. Manual says my L3301 is 2778. Im not weighted but do have rim guard. So that plus my loader and cutters might be 3-500 off what you're talkin about.
That is a nice tractor. Can't wait to see some projects pf use of it. Hope you guys get better soon. Iam behind on watching.
I see the AHW sticker on your nee 3046R. My dealer was bought out by them. Seems like that connects us further
I think you will like AHW
Swap the scales (just turn the tractor 180 degrees) and see if the weight difference stays with the scale or the tractor side.
Those scale self calibrate every time they are powered off and on. His frame is slightly twisted.
Hope you all get back to 100%. Take care,
Looks to be a competitor to the Kubota Grand L series. Mine is a L3560 with a 4200 base weight, right at 10k lbs fully dressed.
My 3320 has the same idle feature is a 2006 I actually measured but boy it has a tight turning radius ! Got the fancy cab that I'd never do without but Tim I'm infatuated with the 4075R.
Interesting on the weight just remember that I believe the weight is the bare tractor with no or very little fuel and no add one like the loaded tires the framework for the loader and the quick hitch and stuff
Maybe you can make a block of some sort to put on the paddles for Christy. ???
JD makes very nice tractors without question, but the feature specs seem to be falling behind competitors. For example in compacts, the Kioti DK and CK seem handily better. I switched to Kioti from JD for this reason. I’m just surprised JD doesn’t match or exceed. Maybe it doesn’t matter? Green or not, I enjoy all your content! God bless.
a vege gardening client has about 5 acres and 3 of that is sheep paddock that she removed the sheep from, now its full of tough weeds, and serrated tussock, we been talking about getting a tractor with a slasher in but access is limited and client will need to cut the lower branches off ornamental trees, and she doesn't want to do it. there is a need for a very low tractor with all the usual attachments like slasher, mower, rotery hoe, plow, seeder, etc. ( i know ventrac would fit but do they have a slasher, and then you have to find a hire company that would hire one out as the cost to buy is prohibative for one job.
I recently tested a TYM 394 and I think that the closest competitor as far as your size comparison. I'd be very interested in seeing the tym 394 or 474 next to that tractor.
I wouldike to see loader dismount and mount and what is the width?
Hi guy’s! So glad everyone is feeling better.
My thoughts on the 320R loader that I have on my 33R. It has much more lifting capacity than my tractor can handle without a lot of ballast. It’s very easy to bring the rear tires off the ground or one side or the other on a off camber situation. I have the iMatch hitch and JD ballast box full of gravel and concrete and leave it on unless I’m using a rear implement. I’m look forward to your future videos on your 3R and your thoughts on the machine. I find my 33R power reverser to be more tractor than I need but would want anything smaller.
Maybe adjustable pedals , and relocate the air valve for the seat, would work. I have a 4 series and the fuel tank is mounted the same. I do not like it there, makes a mess when fueling, wish the fueling station was in the rear.
Hey Tim and Christy thanks for the video and info , I have a question for you , did you weigh the 1025r yet on the scales to see how close it comes to spec? I have a 2021 just like you with the loader and am very curious if you weighed it yet with and without the loader ? Would love to see how close to spec it is if you ever get the chance to I would greatly appreciate it :) .
Thanks again for a great video I'm looking forward to see this beast in action in future videos ! God bless both of you glad your feeling better .
In regard to Johnny x im getting my 48 JD B out and getting her out and running again and im not sure what im gonna call her. Maybe Johnny Thumper as its supposed to be around 15hp new and im getting custom pistons and block bored to clean up the bore and head work with bigger valves. The guy im it done by is in north Carolina so i gotta ship my block and head down there from michigan. Should be around 40hp supposedly
I can vouch for the weight difference.
Good video on it. Been looking forward to this series.
The other day I weighed My 2038R in the configuration that I most often haul it. Came in at 6000 pounds with the stump grinder on
I had been hauling it with a 7k trailer but I just got a 14k gooseneck for it
I have ran a 3046 a little. Seems like the center of gravity is higher and doesn’t feel as stable at first glance
Glad to hear you’re feeling better. I’ve been out of commission the last week as well
Wow! 6000lb!?!
I hope you two feel better.
The pedals on my 3046r have a knob that controls the "reaction" of them. I don't find it intuitive to use. It doesn't always react the way you think it might. It does however give you a much quicker, or slower reaction with your traction pedals depending on how it's adjusted. I've also found it to have limited affect in first gear. It does make a difference, just no where near as much as in second or third gear.
The cable system for front end hydraulics is not what I would consider to be smooth. Mine from use now has a catch. Both a good and bad thing. It's spot that allows me to use both functions at once. It can be a pain to go past it if I want to go full dump. I did lube the system with graphite, and that made a massive difference. It's not an easy thing to do however.
The turning radius on mine is ridiculous. It'll practically do a donut without spinning a wheel. I'm very impressed with it. It was the 3rd best feature of why I bought it. Being able to turn on a dime is a must for my needs.
I am unhappy with the loader in general. I find that it is lacking in force in all directions. I have the "heavy duty" version for my year range. It's capacity simply does not match the rest the of the tractor. If I had to guess, I would say it's a rebadged 2-series loader. I had briefly though about installing bigger lift cylinders. Considering how much the loader flexes under heavy load, I'm too scared to do it. I believe it would break. The hydraulics are also quite slow for the HP that the tractor has. Again, if I was to guess, I would say the pump is the same one for all of the 3-series. Maybe even the same as the 2-series. Considering the price point of the tractor, I'm not happy with it. They should have sized the loader and the hydraulic pump appropriately.
I have the mid-mount mower for mine. (Belly Mower) I am super happy with it's performance. The thing is an absolute beast. I can mow acres of field rather quickly. It's also exceedingly fuel efficient. I have a 7-gallon fender tank on my cabbed tractor. I can near a full 8-hours under heavy load on a tank of fuel. That's with the AC running. At the recommendations of the dealer, I got a 5' bush-hog. Way undersized for the tractor. I should have gotten something like a 9' split.
As a whole, I'm quite happy with it. My complaints are basically around Deere cheaping out on the hydraulics and loader. It is just slightly under-powered for one of my main tasks, running a small round baler. In that order, I may be purchasing a 4066r. I'll miss the belly mower though. Mowing the majority of my lawn in AC is nice....
I'm also considering keeping it, and buying a 5090M in a couple of years. The thing is just exceedingly handy. It's just small enough to get where I need it, and just big enough to get the job done. Time will tell what I decide.
Hope ya'll feel better!
Had a 3720 with a cab, bought it to plow snow. It would break windshields when the plow would trip. Dealer just shrugged his shoulders and said I don't know. In my opinion jd keeps him in new equipment so that these issues aren't shown. I question whether he actually would. And who could blame him when every year your getting a new tractor.
Jack, I think we have proven sufficiently that we tell the truth on this channel. We have shown all of the trouble we have had….some of it serious.
In any case, thanks for watching.
Could Ken make a pedal extender for shorter operators? Would have to be solidly attached while maintaining any distance between pedals. He could probably make them to angle inward slightly to improve ergonomics.
I was surprised when I was getting ready for ankle fusion I asked the dealer and JD customer service they don't have any modifications for the tractors recommended go to a fab shop .I fit hand controls for a few months then covered peddles with handy boxes with SS clamps with rubber spacers works great 3 years now
With the growing number of electronics on these tractors I doubt it will be long before we see an electric loader joystick. I thoroughly enjoy the cab on our 3720, however I do understand your concern with the stiffness of the cable system on the loader joystick.
There is a roughly $10k option in Europe for an electric over hydraulic joystick…and looks like same for rear hydraulics.
Not available in the USA. I guess they think consumers would not pay.
@@TractorTimewithTim interesting information. It seems that there are many options available in Europe but not here. Possibly because of the large number of homeowners who buy tractors for personal use in the U.S.?
I think so. Municipalities in Europe buy more of them, and I suspect have better budgets for the niceties. Still, I suspect several folks would upgrade to the electric joystick. Myself included.
Nice initial review. I’m surprised a R series tractor doesn’t have arm rests on the seat.
Only the cab version has them.
Nice machine there Tim! We just bought a brand new 2038R turbo at work and on first start up it also clatters/knocks like crazy.. I think it just has to do with the ignition in the cylinders when the engine is cold, once they cylinders get up to temperature the ignition fire is smoother thus the sound gets greatly reduced.
Yanmar engines are known for many great things but being quiet has never been one of them! Haha. Reminds me of a cummins
Could be piston skirt clatter. As things warm up they tighten up the clearances. Some gas motors do it more than others too.
This will be ignition timing altered for cold startup. Once the engine warms it returns to normal injection timing. With larger engines during cold (slow turnover) startup if fuel Is injected too soon it can try and hydraulic lock.
The 3035 does the same thing on a cold start. Is the R the tractor you were telling me about that has a power shifter if you don’t want hydrostatic
My dream tractor 🤤
When you start it the idle is higher so the to motor can heat up faster my 3032e does the same thing
I have the mechanical FEL control on my L2501. I would prefer an electric over hydraulic, and even explored doing that as a mod. Summit valve told me that the cost of a variable valve in electric over hydraulic would be cost prohibitive. I did not explore it further. If someone knows of a valve that would do the job, please let me know.
I think if it would be me I would have shuttle shift on a bigger tractor take care get well God bless
I like your tractor 🚜🚜
I couldn’t agree more with the pedal comments. I just bought a 3046r and find it harder to navigate for example, near buildings when doing snow removal. I’m still paranoid that it’s not going to respond the way I want and my blade will hit the building. I’m sure I’ll get used to it eventually… I’m coming from a Gen 1 2032r previously.
Christy, Add some wood blocks on the pedals. We had to add the blocks on the clutch & brake pedals on my 1st car!
I’m so glad to see you folks are on the mend. Your observations and analysis are interesting and informative. Certainly a.”go to” for those seeking info for their own equipment use and/or purchase decisions. Blessings.
my wife has the same problem reaching the pedals, i solved that by making a wooden block that my wife can slide over the pedals
Christy has concerns about NOT being able the floor-it 🤣 that seat is extraordinarily comfy though. Being a 2021 OS 3046r owner, can’t wait for all the upcoming content.
I got my new 2024 cab 3046R Friday, although it’s my 5th 3R 4th cab model. I bought all my other 3Rs as very low used machines, even as low as 10 hours, but this is my first brand new 3R Cab model.
I thought about this video when I first got in my new machine.
I think I finally know what you were saying about how stiff the cab model levers are and in particular the loader joystick.
Now I can say that extreme tension/resistance I had noticed when I first got in it, did change or improve pretty quickly within the first few minutes of use. Still not as easy or loosened up as much as my near 500 hour cab 3046, but much easier then when I first got in the new one. Just thought I would share that, you probably already figured that out with your high hour 3520 or your 24 test unit cab 3046.
She just needs a block spacer on the pedal then she can move the seat back.
You could have moved the scales around to see if the left-right difference was due to the scales. Also... don't forget the 80 lbs. of the iMatch.
Lugging the 53lb scales was all I wanted to do in my current condition!
@@TractorTimewithTim Slide ‘em Clyde. 🙂
You think a step could go on the right side too? Are there bolting provisions for one under there?
I’ve had a 3320 for about three years, I’m keen to see what you think this compares like to the 3320 back on your family farm. I’ve often thought about downsizing to a 2038r as most of what I do is brush hogging, rotary hoeing and flail. Keen to see if you can compare work on the ground between the 2038 and three series to see if trailer carrying is easier for some people
Hello Tim. I am a first time JD tractor buyer. Would you mind if I called you and picked your brain about a few things? I am agonizing over my decision to buy new vs. used, 3039r vs 3046r vs 4052r etc.
I’ve always been really curious to know what my cabbed 2650 with loader, rim guard, quick hitch, etc. weighs. I was guessing 4k, but not sure it’s that heavy after watching your weights.
Tim, Looking forward to learning more about the JD 3046R. Hope you and Christy feel better soon.
Praying that you and Christy will get back to full health and strength soon. I surprised that JD didn't get the pedal feel of the DBW system better. Definitely not a new technology. Nearly all cars and trucks have used that for many years and you can't tell the difference between cable actuated and DBW. Maybe JD can do some kind of software update to help?
Great comparison between the loader joystick on cab vs open station. We have a 3039R Cab and a 3043D open. Absolutely hate how difficult the 3039R is to operate when using the loader. Completely overshadows everything else that's great about having a 3039R Cab.
I have a 3039r with the cab and same set up as your 3046r I wonder how much more weight the cab adds
What size tractor to buy? That’s easy, the biggest one your wife lets you. Hell, I’d have a tracked 8RT 410 with a custom belly mower for my 1/2 acre lawn if my wife let me.
Buy that Women a Holly ! find her a 2120 4x4 HSS shee will be happy. Green & Blue are my 2 favorites.. 30 years ago a friend ford tractor salesman told me my problem was by the time you step up to the strength you need, you wont fit the whole you need it in. JD has solved that problem, however now we have tractors strong enough but ? not multi people sized & not enough weight to hold butt to ground.
You must not be feeling well! I lost count of the times you said "lever" with a short E sound. I thought we had decided its pronounced Leeever! 😁 Seriously though, I hope you guys feel better soon.
Yea! I noticed that when editing! Didn’t notice when filming…so I think you are right!
Love my 3033R/Cab,especally today, plowing driveways in Blue Ridge Mtns of Virginia.
Tim I think the L4701 Kubota is close horsepower about the same and length for 4 wheel drive 72 inches
The 3046R is a nice segment for compact tractors. No doubt when I priced one out it was the most expensive. But they are one of the benchmarks of tractors to own.
Tim, I wonder if the seat was lower if it would give Christy more room for her knees and make it more comfortable to reach the pedals. I had to re-watch the video and the problem is that you recorded from two different angles, so I couldn't compare between you and Christy that well. If the seat is adjusted to as low as it can go I think it would be better for Christy to stick with the smaller tractors because of the width problem and the issue with seat height. We can't all fit the same seat. Hope you're feeling well soon. God Bless.
Seat was low as practical. Basically one inch from bottomed out.
Christy it looks like you need a set of pedal block extensions. Just attach when you use the machine. JD should do what my Ram 1500 does the pedals rise and fall together with a power switch.
They must have heard your complaint about the location of fuel tank . im taking delivery of a new 3046r and the fuel fill is in back left fender.
Really good looking tractor 🚜. It won't be long before you have a 9620. God bless you and yours
It’d be nice to have a ttwt index to find particular videos
Yes! Not sure how to do that effectively.
@@TractorTimewithTim Do it on your website and categorize them by segment or series of tractor.
Here's my question... why does one NEED that much power in such a small-sized tractor?
Good question. Maybe we can address that as the year progresses.
I keep seeing the 2nd Indiana Jones movie with Short Round wearing blocks on his feet to reach the pedals. Blessings
My dream tractor or model. I think so anyway, I don’t have one so I don’t know but in my head it’s my second dream tractor my first dream tractor would actually be about five different models, but if I had to choose one this seems like one of the best choices to me. Lol
I can design some hook on extensions in my fabrication shop which might be a good idea to do especially for short men which they're not many short men but you know in on average that is and for the ladies who which on average you know just not being misogynist or nothing like that it's terrible you have to say stuff like that in this damn time everybody so thin skinned but men are mostly you know doing tractor work that's just the fact of life just like saying women are having babies and men can't so you know it's just a fact of life but might be a bad idea to try to come up with some stuff like that and maybe maybe a channel like it was could just try them out see how they work see if the company maybe make him adjustable somehow I might work on that we'll see
Tire pressure can affect scale weights side to side. Adjust the tire pressure in the front tires and you will probably be able to get the weights closer. Same for the rear but that's tougher with the rim guard. Glad you are feeling better!
thanks for sharing this video, you should have flipped the scales from left to right and reweighed that might have told you how accurate or inaccurate your skills are measuring
I have a 1025r. The 3046r is my dream tractor too! I'm happy for you time! ❤️👍
3046r is a great machine, was thinking of buying a skidsteer and ended up buying it. Use it for everything on my farm from cutting grass to being on an auger
Nice to see actual tractor weights. I had a 7k trailer that I guessed I was pushing the limits of. This just confirms it. Happy that I went to a 14k trailer. By the time you've got a couple attachments with you that's not crazy overkill
How long have you had your 3043D ? I purchased a 2022 3043D on July 3rd
Tim, glad to hear you are feeling better.
Can you get any advanced information from Kubota and John Deere as what they are bringing to market in the near future? Cheers!
I have an open station 5065e in my Agriculture program
my issue is the placement of controls around the seat. You have to look for them and reach down. I sat in a Cab 5065e and the controls are much easier to see, reach and therefore USE. Also I’m 5’10” and I have girth, 300lbs, but even my teenage students feel cramped.
I LOVE the cab on our 5075e. Feels like a totally different machine than an open station version.
My 3R (3039R) will turn on a dime and give you a nickels change.
Would it help if you added a few phone directories on the seat to see over the hood better
I can't wait to meet y'all plus I love the video
Do you have a link to the scales? I've been looking for a set, but they've all been either super expensive or are for lighter weight vehicles like cars.
Very expensive! I bit the bullet!
Glad to see you both up and around even if you are a little weak. The 3046 looks to be a nice-looking tractor and I'm sure you will find out just how strong it is.
7 years ago I bought a brand new 3032e $14,100 simple and basic. Been a great tractor has done everything I could possibly expect a 30 horsepower tractor to do. I'm seeing the same tractors now selling for $25,000+ with double the hour's mine has.
Been a great all around experience by far one of the best purchases I've ever made.
Without loader for that price?
@@bigsway4414 That was with a d160 loader. Had no drawbar or folding rops and tall skinny ag tires on it. Also ending up buying rear hyd kit for $1200.
Lets see you bring home the Boomer 55 that Neil had on his chanel to test out
Tim, you nailed the ergonomics with the 3r series. We traded our 2038r for a cab 3039r this year. Loved the cab, but my wife has a bad shoulder and could not operate the loader joystick. Ended up trading that in on an open station 3039r. We both had a difficult time reaching the pedals. Ours did not have the air ride seat, but we both though it was an uncomfortable tractor. In the end, we sold that one and went back to the 2038r. The 2038r is like an old pair of shoes..lol, it just fits well.
Yes, 2038r is a comfortable machine.
You didn't find the added hydraulic power worth the uncomfort? I believe they have similar turning radius... One day I'm going to convince myself to make the change from 2038-3046
@@willdies4198 No, my wife does a lot of the driving and she's short..lol. Had a very difficult time reaching the pedals. Glad to have a 2038r back in the barn.
The scales are great! I would love to see how a full loader affects the axel weights as well as a full loader with a heavy implement on the back.
is the ignition switch (key) better placed than on the 2R series?
Nice over view of the tractor. Hope you guys haven’t had the COVID? But either way will keep you all in my prayers.
Yes. We had COVID
somebody needs pedal blocks! LOL!