The BIZARRE DRAMA of the 1969 Green Bay Packers | Herb Adderley

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  • @robertholmberg6485
    @robertholmberg6485 3 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    I met Herb Adderly and he was a Friend on Facebook before he passed away. He was, like most Lombardi Packers (if not all), a great man on and off of the field. From what I have seen in documentaries about the post Lombardi Packers, coach's replacement had more problems than just messing up naming Herb to the Pro Bowl. By the way, isn't it interesting how for years the Pro Bowl was a mark of having had an outstanding season and now it has pretty much become a joke?!

    • @robertholmberg6485
      @robertholmberg6485 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Herb was quite generous talking about Bengston as a defensive coordinator and not about him as a head coach

    • @GetRidOfCivilAssetForfeiture
      @GetRidOfCivilAssetForfeiture 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Back then, the Pro Bowl bonus was serious money. And players took the game seriously.

    • @kevinthetruckdriver353
      @kevinthetruckdriver353 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@GetRidOfCivilAssetForfeiture - same with MLB, NHL & NBA. Players used to take these *"ALL-STAR"* games serious for the fans. Now the players treat these games as a joke since the players treat their fans as a joke.

    • @dwlopez57
      @dwlopez57 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@kevinthetruckdriver353 some of the fans are a joke. Treating some bozo as a god just because hes athletically gifted. Of course the players sometimes forget it's the fans who pau their gigantic salaries, if not directly then indirectly

    • @danh1945
      @danh1945 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@robertholmberg6485 Same with Gale Gillingham on Bart Starr..."Bart was a great team mate but a terrible head coach."

  • @marcusanderson933
    @marcusanderson933 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    One of the best ever! R.I.P Herb!

  • @TheStapleGunKid
    @TheStapleGunKid 3 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    You know your a great player when getting 3 interceptions in a 14-game season is considered a "down year".

    • @coreysheldon4332
      @coreysheldon4332 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      And in an era of the NFL where offenses passed the ball far less often

    • @Slade347
      @Slade347 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@coreysheldon4332 Yeah, but there was still a lot more interceptions thrown in that era compared to today. If you combine the numbers for the teams in both leagues (AFL, NFL), teams averaged just under 21 interceptions thrown for the season in 1969. In the pass happy 2020 teams averaged 12 picks thrown.

    • @Akronkangaroo
      @Akronkangaroo 29 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@Slade347 which is why krauses record will never be touched

  • @christianstough6337
    @christianstough6337 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Adderley did not retire after Dallas, he was traded to the Rams and then retired. Adderley joined a Dallas team which was actually in transition. The #1 priority of that transition was in the secondary (check out there draft; the OL was also in transition). Dallas switched Mel Renfro to RCB full time, Cornell Green to strong safety, Cliff Harris at free safety and Adderley to LCB. It took them some time to get oriented, but once they did, Dallas had the best secondary they would ever have. Green was an absolute beast at strong safety. Renfro was Renfro, while rookie FA Harris split time with rookie Charlie Waters. Adderly manned the left side for Dallas, which had an interesting scheme before the hashmarks were changed. All of Dallas' fast studs were on the right (Renfro, Green, Howley, Andire and Lilly). All of their hard core run stoppers were on the left (Harris, Adderley, Edwards, Cole and Pugh). If you get a chance to watch either 1970,71 Super Bowls or the NFC Championship game V San Fran, it is quite interesting how that define played. To my mind, for this two years (or 1/1/2 seasons) this was the best defense Dallas ever had. They could just shut you completely down. 1970 was a very interesting year for Dallas personal wise.

    • @henrybrowne7248
      @henrybrowne7248 ปีที่แล้ว

      That must be when the nickname 'Doomsday Defense' came about.

    • @MichaelForte-jn5pn
      @MichaelForte-jn5pn ปีที่แล้ว

      Landry could have had a better shot of winning Super Bowl V if he played Roger Staubach and if the officials didn't give the ball to the Colts on the goal line..Roger was a great athlete.

  • @yeildo1492
    @yeildo1492 3 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    Those Packer teams frequently led the NFL in pass defense.

    • @DolFan316
      @DolFan316 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      And the NFL too 😋

    • @yeildo1492
      @yeildo1492 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@DolFan316 Yikes..... 🤣

  • @angelsfancrc1
    @angelsfancrc1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    And there was never a disgruntled star Packers player threatening to leave Green Bay ever again

    • @GetBenched2010
      @GetBenched2010 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Aaron Rodgers has entered the chat.

    • @brodyj707
      @brodyj707 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Brett Favre has entered the chat.

    • @travelnc2g
      @travelnc2g 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Lombardi told them he wanted a part ownership in the team or he would leave. They said good bye.
      They still have no "owner" of the team. Think if they had given in to Lombardi. The team might have moved from Green Bay by now.

    • @dmartin5080
      @dmartin5080 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      James Lofton.

    • @farmasyst
      @farmasyst 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Actually Jim Ringo started that trend about 5 years earlier.

  • @JDMatthias
    @JDMatthias 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    No, the true story is that Herb Adderley as quiet as he was was unhappy playing flankerback.
    Reasons aren't known, he didn't really say why, and yes Halfback was his position at Michigan State, but he played both ways.
    Lombardi recruited savvy veteran safety Emlen Tunnell from knowing him as NYG coach. Emlen became Lombardis Aide de Camp to the young black players on the team.
    It was Tunnell who told Lombardi that Adderley had his heart set on playing DB or Cornerback.
    This was written in Lombardis "Run to Daylight!" If you need to check my information

  • @tommclain8893
    @tommclain8893 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    A few years I was chatting with Herb on FB. I asked him who thought was the best CB to ever play without hesitation he said "me". He also said he always considered himself a Packer never a Cowboy. He did not pull any punches. Another excellent video. R.I.P. #26

  • @ronsmac
    @ronsmac 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I wish they had advanced stats back then. Interceptions alone aren’t the only stats for a top db.

    • @farmasyst
      @farmasyst 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Adderly has to be in the All Time Top 10 for Interception Return yardage....

  • @astrostar49
    @astrostar49 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I have a video idea for you. As you may already know, July 4th is the anniversary of Steve McNair's untimely passing. There is a stellar performance of his you may want to consider highlighting, which is the 1999 Week 16 game between the Titans/Jaguars on December 26th. McNair threw for a career high 5 touchdowns/zero interceptions/291 yards. What was interesting about this game was that McNair was coming off a brutal 7 game stretch where he threw for just 1 touchdown and 7 interceptions. Also only one of those games did he hit over 60% of his completions. People were starting to chirp at the time that McNair (3rd overall pick in his 5th year) was simply a game manager. This was essentially his breakout game against a 13-1 Jags team that actually had it's sights set on breaking the 1986 Bears record for fewest points in a season. That all went up in smoke the day McNair went off. Considering the circumstances, it was arguably the best game of #9.

  • @billnelson8517
    @billnelson8517 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    One of the all-time greats Adderly was disrespected by Lombardi's successor!

  • @charlesmak534
    @charlesmak534 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    The Packers had a great secondary then...Adderley and Willie Wood.

    • @djvh2
      @djvh2 ปีที่แล้ว

      The whole left side of their mid-1960s defense is in the hall of fame; Davis, Nitschke, Robinson, Adderley & Wood. From the 1962 team, HOFers include {Starr, Taylor, Hornung, Ringo, Jerry Kramer, Gregg} on offense, {Jordan, Davis, Nitschke, Adderley, Wood} on defense - all these players were starters already, HOF head coach Lombardi. Half of their starters were inducted into the HOF. Besides the HOFers, Boyd Dowler is a flanker on the 1960s all-decade team, Don Chandler is the punter on the 1960s all-decade team (and a very good kicker), every other starter on offense made at least one all-pro and/or pro-bowl {Dowler, McGee, Ron Kramer, Skoronski, Thurston}, and four other starters on defense made at least one all-pro and/or pro-bowl {Hanner, Currie, Forester, Whittenton}. Amazing team! Outscored their opponents 415-148 on a 13-1 record and NFL championship.

    • @farmasyst
      @farmasyst 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      They had 3 additional solid players as well...Doug Hart. Tom Brown, Bobby Jeter

  • @GetBenched2010
    @GetBenched2010 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    "Herb Adderly was the best DB in the NFL in the 60s."
    Willie Brown has entered the chat.

    • @mdoerty13
      @mdoerty13 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Willie Brown played in the AFL.

    • @bemore1134
      @bemore1134 ปีที่แล้ว

      He was a safety, not a cornerback, but Larry Wilson was awfully, awfully good.

  • @DolFan316
    @DolFan316 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    SO...Adderley "retires" on purpose to force the Packers to get rid of him, wins a ring with rival Dallas, then years later says he never wanted to be a Cowboy and is all about the Packers again? Seems to me like this guy had a bit of a loyalty problem.

    • @k3D4rsi554maq
      @k3D4rsi554maq 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      These guys don't play for free.

    • @robertwilloughby8050
      @robertwilloughby8050 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      No, I think Adderley had a Bengtston problem, and once he'd made his point, he wanted to comeback.

    • @jacksmith5692
      @jacksmith5692 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      His issue in Dallas was how Landry treated the black players and the team was divided. With Lombardi he never experienced that! Dave Robinson, Willie Davis also loved Lombardi!

    • @jayjones2821
      @jayjones2821 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Loyalty as a one way street looks more like subservience.

    • @timwhitcomb2383
      @timwhitcomb2383 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      because its not wht happened. he was traded after bengston raided my parents bar with the cops. Bengtson was a day drinking drunk ad lost the locker room by trying to instill college level curfews and rules. herb was caught at the bar and was traded the next day. the media was told a diff story. he did that for lombardi but remained bitter his whole life that bengtson ruined the team. its in cliff cristil book.

  • @tohur
    @tohur 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    R.I.P Herb

  • @Entertainmentfanatic84
    @Entertainmentfanatic84 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Bro Vince Lombardi didn't leave Greenbay cuz he retired he left to be the new head coach of the Washington Redskins

  • @brodyj707
    @brodyj707 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow great video! Well edited and very well researched. Thanks so much for the history.

  • @clintholmes2061
    @clintholmes2061 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Don't leave me hanging about the story behind his leaving the cowboys. I look forward to part 2 of the adderley story.

    • @DolFan316
      @DolFan316 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      In the '72 NFC title game, then 3rd year CB Charlie Waters kept getting burned, but Landry kept refusing to put Adderley in. I'm on Adderley's side in that saga.

  • @chrisrobinson8339
    @chrisrobinson8339 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Pro Bowls are important. Those are how you get into the hall of fame.

    • @iamhungey12345
      @iamhungey12345 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Unless your name is John Riggins.

    • @armorybrunotjr.3204
      @armorybrunotjr.3204 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      John Riggins had just one Pro Bowl season and just one All-Pro season his entire NFL career, but his fifteen seasons (1971-85) saw him as one
      of the league's top rushers. With the New York Jets in 1975, he was that team's first 1,000 yard rusher. Then he took a big free agent deal to play
      in Washington with the Redskins, where he played the last nine seasons
      of his stellar career. Riggins is the Redskins alltime leading rusher (7,472
      yards). If a talented player makes at least one Pro Bowl, he is on his way to Canton.

    • @iamhungey12345
      @iamhungey12345 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@armorybrunotjr.3204 This may gives some Bucs fans some hope for LaVonte David.

  • @theawesomeguy4128
    @theawesomeguy4128 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    That thumbnail reminds me of a 2021 Packers story... probably nothing though.

  • @r.williamcomm7693
    @r.williamcomm7693 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Mel Renfro is used for the intro on the 2010 90th Anniversary of the NFL Top 100 players. They played together on the Cowboys & Renfro credited Adderley with bringing a mindset to the Cowboys that helped them win a Super Bowl for the 1971 season.

  • @nasetvideos
    @nasetvideos 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video--Enjoyed this one very much. Excellent context and storytelling

  • @kevinthetruckdriver353
    @kevinthetruckdriver353 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Would of love to hear Herb Adderley's point of view on the state of play of the Pro Bowl in the past decade. Herb died October 30, 2020 at the age of 81.

  • @paulsherman2820
    @paulsherman2820 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Lol, the grass ain't always greener on the other side

  • @jacksmith5692
    @jacksmith5692 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Namath is a stupid example. He was crying because Pete Rozelle was going to suspend him if he remained an owner with the Bachelor's Three nightclub. Namath said I'll retire before you make me sell and did briefly in a tearful press conference! Eventually Namath did sell and returned to the Jets.
    On June 6, 1969, Joe Namath held a tearful press conference in which he announced his retirement from the National Football League. Just six months after winning Super Bowl III and being named the game's Most Valuable Player, Namath was out of the business. One month later, his retirement ended and Namath reported back to the New York Jets.
    Why?
    Because of a dispute over the bar Namath held an ownership interest in, Bachelors III.
    Bachelors III was a bar/night club located at 798 Lexington Avenue in New York City. Namath was a part owner, along with Bobby Van, a singer, and Ray Abruzzese, a teammate of Namath. Together, they made the three bachelors. The bar opened in the spring of 1969 and was extraordinarily popular. It was one of the first real dating bars for single people in the United States. Other locations were planned, such as Boston, Miami, and New Orleans.
    That Namath was a part owner in the bar was not an issue; the types of people hanging out at the bar were. People had observed mobsters and members of the mafia in the bar and knew they were using it as a hangout. Pete Rozelle, then Commissioner of the NFL, issued Namath an ultimatum; relinquish his interest in the bar, or face suspension. Rozelle warned Namath of a clause in his contract which allowed for suspension if he "entered drinking or gambling establishments" or "associate with notorious persons."
    Namath, only twenty-six years old at the time, was outraged that Rozelle was trying to interfere with his personal life. On June 6, 1969, he held a press conference where he declared, "I'm not selling; I quit!" When training camp opened soon after, Namath was nowhere to be found. He soon realized, however, that he had acted too rashly and was throwing away a career that made him famous. Namath started to realize that if he was to ever play football again, he would have to divest himself of Bachelors III.
    As a result of meeting with Rozelle a few times, on July 15, the two came to an agreement, almost entirely on Rozelle's terms. Despite publicly asserting he had done nothing wrong, Namath sold his interest in the bar, and was permitted to join the team at training camp. After a month long saga, Namath's retirement was over.

  • @edpinkerton7947
    @edpinkerton7947 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Packers had so many great players in the 60s

    • @armorybrunotjr.3204
      @armorybrunotjr.3204 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yes they did-Bart Starr,Jim Taylor,Paul Hornung,Carroll Dale,Boyd Dowler,Max McGee,Don Chandler,Marv Fleming,Donny Anderson,
      Bob Skoronski,Forrest Gregg,Ken Bowman,Jerry Kramer,Fred Thurston,
      Willie Wood,Dave Robinson,Ray Nitschke,Ron Kostelnik,Lee Roy Caffey,
      Bill Forrester,Elijah Pitts,Travis Williams,Willie Wood.

    • @edpinkerton7947
      @edpinkerton7947 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@armorybrunotjr.3204 don’t forget Gale Gillingham. Only lineman that could handle Butkus probably better than Kramer/ and Ken Bowman too

    • @armorybrunotjr.3204
      @armorybrunotjr.3204 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@edpinkerton7947 Gale Gillingham and Tom Moore should be remembered from that era, too.

  • @karlcooper8460
    @karlcooper8460 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Just passed away last year RIP.

  • @martincaidin4166
    @martincaidin4166 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    3:50 the ref called that an incomplete pass?? LOL

    • @jamesage24
      @jamesage24 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Tuck rule. 😁

  • @scottconner7930
    @scottconner7930 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    52 Years Ago

    • @DolFan316
      @DolFan316 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      And players back then were just as whiny as now, only not nearly as many. I'm quitting the team because my coach didn't campaign hard enough for me to make the Pro Bowl??? Seriously??? It's all Bengston's fault and not, you know, the coaches and players who didn't vote you in??? And it's not as if Adderley was some random unknown guy, either.

  • @CTubeMan
    @CTubeMan 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Great video, but (three words you don’t like to see start a response to a video) you ended the video by talking about Adderley in the present tense. He died in October.

  • @DolFan316
    @DolFan316 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Seems like a few people wanted to get the hell out of Green Bay after their last hurrah in '67. Lombardi "retires" only to pop up as coach of the *REDSKINS* two years later. Adderley and Gregg jump ship to the Cowboys, of all teams. At least when Jerry Kramer retired after the '68 season he actually did retire.

    • @travelnc2g
      @travelnc2g 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Lombardi demanded ownership in the team or he would leave. They said "goodbye".

    • @xeditionstarwars6011
      @xeditionstarwars6011 ปีที่แล้ว

      Lombardi wanted a lot of ownership in the packers and us packer fans all know that’s a big no no

  • @DrSkull1939
    @DrSkull1939 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It seems to me from a distance that the Packers were trying to get rid of Lombardi's players because of age. Sort of a rebuild. Ownership told Bengston to act that way he did towards Herb. Also, when you get a new coach they want their people in place. I'm just throwing darts at the target probably missing the point of the disrespect

  • @Broken_Soul94
    @Broken_Soul94 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Just feels like he's the first diva db in nfl history

    • @zacchaeuswilson6116
      @zacchaeuswilson6116 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Matt Joseph Tom Matte blamed Sample of dirty play in Super Bowl 3 when Matte had inadvertently gotten stepped in the crotch. DECADES later videos CLEARLY revealed that it wasn't Sample who did it.....it was his teammate John Elliott. But yet Matte still held a grudge against the late Johnny Sample.

    • @DolFan316
      @DolFan316 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Adderly was truly a man ahead of his time in this regard. Maybe he was really a millennial time traveler? Hmmm...

    • @GetRidOfCivilAssetForfeiture
      @GetRidOfCivilAssetForfeiture 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Matt Joseph Sample played for Weeb Ewbank on the ‘58 and ‘59 Championship teams (the ‘58 team won the famous OT game against the Giants that happened to be the first nationally televised NFL Championship Game and propelled the NFL to the upper strata of popularity) and he played for Weeb Ewbank on the 1968 Jets that won Super Bowl 3. He retired after that season, meaning he bookended his career not only with Championships but with the two of the most impactful championship games ever.

  • @davanmani556
    @davanmani556 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    The Cowboys were a racially divided team before Adderley came along.

    • @F40PH-2CAT
      @F40PH-2CAT 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Landry evolved, but it was still a problem in 1970.

  • @calabria1967
    @calabria1967 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    where do you get all that footage - do you pay the NFL for it? I'd love to see some full games

    • @KnightBoat
      @KnightBoat 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The footage falls under fair use laws.

    • @calabria1967
      @calabria1967 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@KnightBoat Yes, but where does the footage come from? Is this publicly available on the net?

    • @KnightBoat
      @KnightBoat 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@calabria1967 There's an amazing amount of footage on TH-cam. Also under fair use laws. Even the NFL itself publishes a lot.

  • @Niecy1101
    @Niecy1101 ปีที่แล้ว

    My sister went to school with him. I remember as a child seeing him wearing that beautiful super bowl ring. R.I.P.

  • @mikepainter3111
    @mikepainter3111 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Where do you get all this information from. I know you’re not old enough to have saw much of what you make videos of.

  • @jacksmith5692
    @jacksmith5692 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Adderley's issue in Dallas was how Landry treated the black players how the team was divided. With Lombardi he never experienced that! Dave Robinson, Willie Davis also loved Lombardi!

  • @sammyvh11
    @sammyvh11 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Bobby Boyd was not sloutch either......

  • @leebowens2631
    @leebowens2631 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Herb Adderley has the only football jersey I want number 26 Green bay Packer throw back, I have Reggie Whites number 92 Green bay Packers jersey, I was in grade school in Wisconsin when Adderley was playing for the greatest football team in league history and Herb and Bobby Jeter were the players I tried to imitate .

  • @sen74diehard
    @sen74diehard 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    A super ring is awesome. I would wear them all.

  • @jacklane7489
    @jacklane7489 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Bro Herb Adderly was inducted in the Hall a decade before Mel Renfro. That GB secondary was acclaimed, the best unit of the defense and it wasn’t a secret.

  • @DolFan316
    @DolFan316 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Herb Adderley is the modern day Xavien Howard, if Howard had more than one great season.

  • @Music-lx1tf
    @Music-lx1tf 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    As a GB fan thanks for the info.

  • @orionparish9858
    @orionparish9858 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Damn. December 23 is my birthday (in 1987 to be fair). So much for feeling good.

  • @chriskay1449
    @chriskay1449 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    It's funny you flashed Aaron Rodgers up there and completely ignore Brert Fzvre literally doing what Adderley did with his retirement/un-retirement and did it multiple times.

  • @dontdoittoyoself6786
    @dontdoittoyoself6786 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    High School sports got to rely on that vote for my player I vote for yours system. It becomes more about politics then it should be. Doesn’t mean they don’t get it right but there’s a lot of favoritism.

  • @Wallyworld30
    @Wallyworld30 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Packers best Cornerback in Packer Franchise history is Charles Woodson. If were going by who had the most INT for the Packers both Willie Wood and Bobby Dillon both had more franchise INT's than Adderley. Adderley was top 4 all time Packers Corners but it's a stretch to put him at the very top.

    • @marlynhebert9728
      @marlynhebert9728 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Adderley won games by blocking kicks and returning kickoffs. Teams avoided him as much as possible, now tell me again how many Superbowls did Charles Woodson win as a Packer.

    • @haroldmccoy6748
      @haroldmccoy6748 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@marlynhebert9728 Thanks for clarifying the truth my fellow objective nfl fan . Herb Adderly is a all-time NFL top 100 Greatest Player #64 rightfully so ,Woodson and ,Wood ,aren't ,although both were great hof players ,Bobby Dillon was a very good player ,but they weren't Herb Adderly .Teams avoided Herb often and he still prospered .Kind of hard getting lots of ints when QB's aren't throwing the ball in your direction consistently ,meaning he's locking his man down . Herb accomplished it despite recieving minimal opportunity chances ,and ints aren't actually a primary stat that properly evaluates the elite quality of a CB .Quality of WR ,ie Probowl ,All Pro being neutralized , Yds Per Reception ,Tds Allowed , level.of Offensive Teams Passing Ranking .Herb played dominant in many post season games ,he doesn't take a back seat to no Packers defensive Back historically . .

    • @iceman4408
      @iceman4408 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@haroldmccoy6748 💯💯💯💯

    • @thebrotasticbro9465
      @thebrotasticbro9465 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Two words. Recency bias

    • @antonioriversrivers7925
      @antonioriversrivers7925 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      You don't know what you are talking about. I bet you can't even play in the little league.

  • @diaz5292
    @diaz5292 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The much needed context: 1:20

  • @cannotwaittoseedavanteadam4301
    @cannotwaittoseedavanteadam4301 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Was this made before the Rodgers situation?

  • @karlcooper8460
    @karlcooper8460 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I don't think he was a prima Donna he really got dissed.

  • @iamhungey12345
    @iamhungey12345 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    You should do a video about Harry Carson threatening to retire early in his career to join the air force.

  • @Staceyatkinson4496
    @Staceyatkinson4496 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Just your video on hiring an interim coach then moving back to chargers, well how about doing the story of grudden to buccaneers

  • @tomitstube
    @tomitstube 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    we lost herb last october, rip. i think herb knew the packers dynasty was over and didn't want to finish on a bad team.

  • @patrickjspoon
    @patrickjspoon 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Aw man, why you gotta bring up St. Aaron? #gopackgo

  • @nala3038
    @nala3038 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This Rodgers saga sure sounds a lot like the Adderly ending

  • @malarie-susangold9259
    @malarie-susangold9259 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Everyone's talking about Rodgers. Adderly retired then unretired, like a certain Packers QB...

  • @michaelvonahnen3050
    @michaelvonahnen3050 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    He had class...Herb Adderley !

  • @GeeCoach35
    @GeeCoach35 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Damn. They had football divas back then? Sheesh

  • @jacksmith5692
    @jacksmith5692 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    He said Landry was a racist also and Lombardi was colorblind and rough but a great man! Lombardi accepted everyone as a person. His Brother was gay and he had 3 gay players on the Redskins in 1969 and was great to Jerry Smith and Dave Kopay!
    Lombardi was a great guy!

  • @jacksmith5692
    @jacksmith5692 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Bengtson was clueless with the importance of a field goal kicker and lost around 7 games over his 3 years with the Packers due to inferior kicking. It was so ridiculous that Jerry Kramer and Chuck Mercein did some kicking in 1968!

    • @bemore1134
      @bemore1134 ปีที่แล้ว

      Kicker Don Chandler decided he needed to tend to his business interests back home. Reportedly, he was willing to kick in '68 if allowed to fly in on weekends. Lombardi balked at this. Frankly, I don't blame Lombardi. I don't know if it was "ridiculous", the idea of having Kramer kick. He kicked effectively earlier in his career. Granted, that idea fizzled as Kramer struggled kicking in 1968.

    • @jacksmith5692
      @jacksmith5692 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@bemore1134 Lets not make Kramer out to be some amazing kicker. He did kick three short field goals in 5 attempts in the 1962 championship game and was effective in 1962 but given the full time job in 1963 as the kicker sucked going 16 for 34 with a long of only 46 yards for a 47% average and he missed three extra points.
      Then in 1968 he was 4 for 9 with a long of 38 yards and blew an extra point on only 10 attempts.
      So 20 for 43 in field goals with a long of 46 yards and 52 of 56 extra points stunk! I wouldn't call him good!
      As I wrote as a part timer in 1962 he did decent going 12 for 16 and 39 for 40 in extra points! Lets not make him out to be George Blanda!

    • @jacksmith5692
      @jacksmith5692 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@bemore1134 With a decent kicker in 1968, the Packers go 9-4-1 and not 6-7-1. Jerry Kramer admitted that in his second book Farewell to Football that the Packers did a terrible job of having a good kicker in 1968. The Packers were 13 for 29 in field goals and missed three extra points in 1968. They lost 3 games by 9 total points and had a tie in 1968 and had a positive point differential of 281 to 227.
      The defense was solid although the pass rush was slowing down with only Willie Davis solid with 9 sacks, the offense was so so with an average run game and the special teams stunk!
      BTW, in the 1962 Championship game when Kramer was 3 for 5 in field goals, he didn't make a field goal over 30 yards so again pump the brakes on Jerry Kramer the kicker!

  • @bar0nv0nstrubel57
    @bar0nv0nstrubel57 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I didn't need the 12 reminder

  • @67marlins81
    @67marlins81 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So Adderly blamed his coach and threw a hissy-fit.....not much of a team player at all.

  • @Hodaggium
    @Hodaggium 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    For my fellow Packer fans, trigger warning at 10:10

  • @smilanesi98
    @smilanesi98 ปีที่แล้ว

    Jeter was very good. Addereley was great. A HOFer. Lombardi was a much better motivator and a straight shooter with all the players. Bengtson was simply not a good HC. In a book years later several Packers on defense expressed their opinions of Phil. If Lombardi had lived and still been in GB, of course, Herb would have stayed.

  • @stephengrinkley9889
    @stephengrinkley9889 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Seems to me that Herb Adderley was just ahead of his time

  • @porterwake3898
    @porterwake3898 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Coaches just got worse and worse after Lombardi. Bengston was just a weakling. Devine was an unmitigated disaster who set the franchise back for over a decade with the Hadl trade. Bart Starr, while the players loved him, was probably not ready to be a coach. Forrest Gregg is one of the best Packer players in history, had a reputation of being the worst kind of underhanded dirty coaches. Infante had 1989.... Each coach with a worse winning percentage than the previous.

  • @BugsyTB89
    @BugsyTB89 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hall Of Famer great player In The Packers & Cowboys ring of honor

  • @timwhitcomb2383
    @timwhitcomb2383 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Herb was traded after the day drinking hypocrite Phil Bengtson raided my parents bar with the cops and caight Herb there. Its in cliff crsitl book. the story told to the media was a favor to lombardi but he was traded the next day and remained bitter that he was traded.

  • @Colt-ii4qn
    @Colt-ii4qn 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’m sure he wanted to play the race card but had enough class not to . 😐

  • @DMS-pq8
    @DMS-pq8 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Adderley is proof that football prima donnas aren't just a modern phenomenon

  • @ced910
    @ced910 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    do not know when this video was made but that statement on not ever having a disgruntled player again with what is going on now is wrong

    • @thatonewriter8043
      @thatonewriter8043 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It was uploaded two hours ago. He was fully aware of the current saga. The emphatic tone was an attempt to make the irony clear, but it doesn't work as well with how monotonous his voice is.

    • @ced910
      @ced910 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@thatonewriter8043 ok thank you

    • @mrmoose6619
      @mrmoose6619 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      He has said that exact same line on a few other videos in the past when a similar scenario occurs in the (relative to the video) future that we all know... just part of his sense of humor... like the recurring 39.6 joke

    • @ced910
      @ced910 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mrmoose6619 ok thank you

    • @DolFan316
      @DolFan316 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      If that's so wrong, I don't ever wanna be right 😎

  • @JImstone2047
    @JImstone2047 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That’s damn funny