Former Marine here, listen folks Jake is right, it is a brutal lifestyle. Don’t get me wrong though I am a proud Marine and all that but at the end of the day when I was in the Marines we were treated very poorly, and yes at the time the equipment seemed very old and outdated. It’s tough for me as my son is currently in college and wants to sort of follow in my footsteps. I was enlisted but he wants to be a Marine officer. It’s hard because one side of me swells up with pride but the other side of me doesn’t want him to endure that Marine Corps life. I tend to give the advice so often recommended on here and just go Army officer.
I was a Cook In the Army with 10th Mountain and we were at Camp Gieger Help Training the Marine SOI for 6 months, I noticed the difference in the way they perceive themselves. There Cooks were extremely Gung Ho as if they were special forces, while our Cooks new we were cooks supporting Light Infantry getting ready for combat, My step some wanted to join the marines, I live near Ft Lewis washington so it was easy to get many Army and even ex Marines opinion on Joining the Army or Marines vs Navy or Air Force. I would say near 99 percent said join Air Force or navy. As well as i was trying to tell him, He did not listen, and he came out authority issues. Seems like he kinda hated it. My career was way more training, way more hours worked and way less days off. But I embraced it plus i had a family, my son was single and just hated it. I only got out because of working 15 hours days and many times 6-7 days a week just dont add up mathematically and i could not change my MOS because how much time left i had in service.
@conchitasnacks You're right. The cooks work LONG hours. It's an unforgiving MOS. Also what you said about the cooks in the Corps. lol Yep, it's branch wide how they view themselves, and others. One thing we always new in the Army, was that our CS & CSS " Knew " they were grunts or combat arms. No need on acting like em, which usually leads to " Over acting." We found in very interesting when working with Marines.
This dude has absolutely no idea what he’s talking about 😂 SARCS get the exact same medical training as 18D’s AND more. I heard “no goat lab” and had to stop the video. Plus, If you’re a SARC at MARSOC, you get all of the funding. Please do not try to give advice if you don’t know anything about the job. It’s quite frustrating.
Man y'all are lucky to have jake because he's telling y'all the truth, versus a recruiter who's on shore duty just trying to fill quotas. Listen to this man he actually cares
Dude Jake is so right about pushing you to the army. Worst case you fail selection, you’ll still be infantry! Plus very little swimming! Army or air force for sure. If you pass sf q course, that’s automatically E6 in like 2 years! Ruck twice a week And get your cardio up. Sf likes them a little older anyway. You’re mature, you’ll kill it. Don’t go ranger. SF ALL THE WAY
18xray all the way. Sf. Go local library. Study asvab latest edition. Get your 3 mile 18 minutes. Pullups 20 and push up 90 plus. I worked for pma. Did paper work all the time. For navy challenge programs. Also was part of study team thats still under non disclosure. But It sucks accepting so many i to the programs. Big Navy especially. They fill all these 2 month selection classes with far more than they need, with guys that would destroy in sf. Rescue, diver. Seal eod and swcc. They advertise and make the classes big as possible, knowing only few will make it past selection. Because big navy uses their prestige and bug graduation bonuses to attract so many, just so majority will fill needs of Navy.
Great video. Jake is giving great advice. If you are 24 and older with little to no college experience, and decide to enlist then definitely go Special Forces. Once one makes it through the entire Q course then within 2 years of being on a ODA team, you get promoted to E-6, and have a bunch of schools to go to. If you want an experience that is similar to the USMC in terms of discipline but more physical and better training then try out for Ranger Regiment.
Jake!!!! It’s your boy Mike from New Zealand…..love your videos….chaaaahoooo ..left school joined the Airforce….got arrested after 7yrs service….so joined the Police to take the corrupt cop down from the inside…8yrs in the popo then saw the light and joined the fire service as a career firefighter…still going hard fighting fires at 50 …and still listening to your great advice…..keep up the great work 🤙🏿
Jake is telling yall the truth here. I was a regular grunt (infantry) corpsman. In my time they were begging us to go Recon/SARC. They even had the Division Surgeon (O-6, Full Bird Captain) come to each unit in First Marine Division recruiting guys to go SARC, giving orders immediately upon passing the PST. Why? Because dudes were getting out and going Army like Jake said.
@@emzee586 8404 line corpsman attached to a infantry line platoon, as opposed to SARC or a more specialized tech corpsman like an OR Tech or even Independent Duty Corpsman
The great thing about going Army and going for Ranger or Green Beret is, for whatever reason you don't make it, you more than likely will end up in the 82nd Airborne Div as a paratrooper, which in itself is something to be proud to be.
Retired Marine here. Jake is right on point. I love the Corps, however the army has many more opportunities. Funding is ALWAYS a problem in the Marine Corps. It generally doesn't take 6 years to make E-5, though. A squared away Marine can make E-5 in 3 years, depending on MOS.
Top you realize that they’re not talking about sexual assault response coordinator in the Marine Corps correct? about US Navy special amphibious reconnaissance Corpsmen… Funding through Department of Navy, enlisted classification training not attached to USMC pot of funds… it does not take six years for a SARC to make E5/HM2… That’s on the individual if it takes that long, not USMC promotion requirements/cutting scores/boat space.
@@porkchop2471 I am fully aware of what they are talking about. Jake stated that it may take 6 years to make E-5 in the Marine Corps. I stated that that is generally not the case.
@@RetiredTop43 so ask yourself, what does a person wanting to be a special amphibious reconnaissance Corman, with promotion and rank solely attributed to USN metrics have anything to do with making sergeant in the United States Marine Corps? Totally agree that, depending on one’s choice of MOS, it may take an exorbitant amount of time to make rank in the USMC, but that is not the case within the USN. I’ve known nine year sergeants and 7 year staff sergeants etc you know how it goes. People are conflating navy promotion periods and opportunities with Marine Corps promotions and opportunities. They are not synonymous nor related in any way.
@@RetiredTop43 dictation likes to misspell shit. You’ll get over it. SOIC/SARC, attend exact same course as Air Force PJ and army Green Berets, which gives the army Green Beret their MOS of “18 D“ all three tactical/operational medical expertise are identical at that point.
Everyone I’ve ever met love Marines. Shawn Ryan said he’s never seen more motivated group, jocko said marines are the most capable, Tim K. Said they are always good. Don’t let someone dictate your career. Whether a TH-camr or dad
They love the title of being a Marine, doesn't mean they didn't hate life while in or could have had much more opportunity elsewhere. Listen to people that have been there. Nothing wrong with being a Marine, but choosing that because of the marketing is dumb. The average Marine pog is more motivated than the average Army pog, but there are many places in the Army that will marvel you with their level of professionalism. If you're intelligent and physically fit you can get way more out of your service than what the Marine Corps can provide. Especially for this dude at 26 years old, I almost made the same mistake and it would have been catastrophic.
Dude they respect the Marines but it doesn't mean the actual marine corp experience is great. Shii I was in the Navy as machinist mate on an cvn-74 and then tad to a riverine squadron in Bahrain. From experience Jake is right Navy sucks unless you're doing cool stuff like a seal or swcc. Marine Corp is just the Navy's bitch too. If you want your benefits with a 9-5 job go air force, if you want all that high speed action go army.
@jakezweig so off the wall question how does a mark 5 handle in rough seas ..and what's the biggest swells you have rode in.also how big are the sleeping quarters
Did 10 in the Corps and got out at E6, so trust me that its not for everyone. If you don't have a particular, hellbent reason to become a Marine, then don't do it. I enlisted with buddies that went into other branches of service and were promoted faster and had more opportunities. In the Marines, it is very difficult to change your MOS and you best believe your command will chastise you for wanting to progress out of your field. You'll be a Marine all day, but that's about it. If I had to do it again, I would've went army or only done one contract in the Marines. E6 only takes 6 years to reach and you'll go a lot farther if you're a PT stud. Nobody in the Marines is coming to look for you to join a specialized unit. From what I've seen, the Army is more likely to meet you at the table.
I did 8 years in the Corps. After my first enlistment I tried to lateral move into Counter Intel and it was my command that hosed me. They fucked me out of a lot of money and a life changing opportunity. While I agree with Jake on the unlimited resources the Army has to offer because of the sheer size of the service, I pinned on rank pretty quickly and that was never an issue for me. You have to want to be a Marine, I tell anyone who asks me, if you're on the fence that shit ain't for you.
@keithboyd1070 sorry the green weenie got you. Unfortunately that's the reason I got out. I was a SSgt at 10 years and realized you're still a PFC if a 1st Sgt or MSgt is on a power trip. During the war, the Corps was the best branch for deployments and the leadership was there to take of Marines. Now it's just inexperienced officers and disgruntled senior enlisted trying to run it.
Former SARC here… this guy must be confused. I went to 18D airborne combat dive SERE and deployed on combat missions. SARCs don’t get treated like shit and Marines are the first in anytime ground forces are needed not seals or green berets.
The Marine Corps was full of people like me. I LOVED it. Did promotions suck? Yes, go to boards and get meritorious promo. Did our equipment suck? Hell yeah. But the Marines I served with and am still friends with to this day are worth 6 years of sucking shit. I got nothing but great memories.
Navy Sarcs are like on point with Paramedic 1 and like a nurse, The SEALs are using SARCs now, PJs zre great but they arent trained in sustained medicine like the SARCs that's like the longest pipeline in the whole military along with SF medic or 18 delta.
Lol don’t forget you’re competing through PST scores for the SARC route on that HM-ATF contract. If your scores are not up to par (SEAL standards, as said in the navadmin) it’s a no and you’re getting DMT or SAR which you can come out with your paramedic and maybe critical care( get out go to the fire department who are hurting for medics get paid 65-70k off rip without OT.) Then they don’t even put you in a 800 div in boot to keep up with swimming / running for HM-ATF.
I was an instructor in trauma 3 at the Socom course alongside an exceptional SOIDC from recon. He was an E-5 and i was an E-7. Our experiences doing combat medicine were similar but i had vastly more clinical experience due to JCET's. My life was also much more enjoyable on an ODA while also getting intel and shooting courses. Same dudes, way less opportunity. I also made 7 in 7, which is unconscionable in his situation. You have so many moves in SF as well, if you want to try something else. Cif company, delta direct support, ASOT, etc..
SOIDCs (SARCs don’t exist in the Navy anymore) go through the same level of tactical training as green berets, and literally go through the exact same medical courses side by side with 18Ds
Yeah, don't bro, you'll hate life. Hell, depending what mos and unit you end up in the Army you might hate life as well, but at least you got a shot at a much better quality of life. Not to mention if you aren't happy in your career field you've got various selections you can attend and packet mos's that you can drop to reclass to if you meet the standard. Be exceptional at pt, be a team player, have a gt score above 110 on the asvab and be where you're told with the gear you were told to bring and you can write your own ticket.
SARC is not a thing anymore, now all corpsmen with recon and MARSOC are SOIDCS. Their medical pipeline is the same as 18Ds; same schoolhouse. The money thing is true on the recon side (Marine Corps money), but on the Raider side, the world is your oyster (SOCOM money), many same missions as SF. The one bennie of SOIDC over 18D is that dive and dive medicine is built into the pipeline, and a lot less down time during the pipeline compared to the Q course.
@@Clowncentral101 It became a friction point in career growth, and you lost a body to SFMS to get SOIDC. Time, money, and career progression are why they killed SARC. NSW has killed their medic program, now SEALs will be going through SOCM (but unlikely SFMS).
Marines like being marine’s because they are taught to do more with less. It’s a dumb gamble. I see the way they did Zerbin Singleton a pilot with 3 masters and a ba… crazy what they’ll do to a person .
exactly that’s why i wanna be a Marine everyone’s like “it’s gonna suck and be so hard” that’s why i wanna be a Marine and that’s why i’m going Infantry 😂 also the equipment for the Infantry in the Corps is actually extremely up to date now. they have high cuts and M27s with suppressorss
@@JJReal-m7x my family is a Marine family and no i’m aware it’s not gonna be a sexy kind of suck. I like pain it only makes you stronger and that’s a fact 😂 but that’s another one of the reasons i’m going with that Route
Jake, He should contact the 20th SFG Recruiter in Maryland. National Guard SF is the army’s hidden secret, make no mistake about that, and he can roll over to active duty if he gets selected, when I went to SFAS I know a few cats who did that Also for those trying to go Back in, They have this thing in the guard called a “try one” program for prior service of any branch. Meaning you sign up for one year, and if you don’t make it through SFAS you don’t have to extend, or be stuck in an infantry unit. The only thing you have to do in that 1 year contract is get selected, and they help you practice for land nav, team week, ect. It’s WAY better than an active duty 18X because even prior service dudes have to sign up for 6 years If they want to be SF through active duty, and because you can easily go from Guard to active duty IF you do get selected, it makes no sense to sign a 6 year contract when you can do the exact same thing, only to fail and get sent to an infantry unit at 26 years old. For non prior service or fresh Guard 18X’s who are OLDER, the plus side is if you fail you only have to deal with bullshit one weekend a month, and you have 6 years to try again if you wish to
For those non-prior service unable to get guard 18X (perm resident / non citizen), would you suggest to go 11B or 68W for MOS before selection? Currently locate in NYC and thinking about whether should go RI for 143rd / airborne contract
@@DylanAce6 prior service are the only ones who get the “try one” 18X contract, regular 18X’s with no military background have to sign up for 6 years, Guard or active duty But if you hate Army bullshit, go 18X guard because if you fail at least you only deal with it once a month, and if you get selected you can go into active duty if you want to
@@Raven_623 I mean.. I did infantry, and volunteered for SFAS when I was active duty, but I didn’t make through selection because I failed the STAR Course I am eventually going back to SFAS through the National guard, and I learned that they offer the “try one” for prior service wanting to check out SFAS it’s probably the best way to sell military service for hard dudes who got out of the Army or Marines looking to go back after a shitty experience in the infantry, or “big army” as we called it
I love the MARINE CORPS. It’s true the MARINES don’t promise you a rose garden, you don’t get to have the cool patches, and the sexy Tactical 5.11 beards, but the one thing that hasn’t changed yet is the saying “The change is forever”. MARINES have a different approach to military life and war fighting. I appreciate what I gained from my time in the Corps, it’s something that will never change, and it’s something I can fall back on when I need pick myself up.
The medical training between a SARC and 18D is the exact same. However, as a Navy Corpsman, 100% go Army. Zero funding on the Marine side of the house. Recon is also incredibly underutilized.
Former Marine recruiter here. You’re too old, do not go into the Marines for special force, the only entry level is recon. My office alone sent over 20 dudes, only one made it. The rest ended up being motor-t, admin or cook. The Army is a better pipeline and they’ll have it available and guaranteed. Marines only have few Reconnaissance contracts available for like October to November.
As a SARC unless you’re married you’re gonna be living in the barracks until you make E6 cause you abide by Marine rules. It’s hard to make rank as a corpsman too, you’re competing with corpsman navy wide.
Hey Jake, I’m an 18 senior in high school that’s been watching your videos for a while and I think you’re straight up guy with solid advice. Is it possible to talk with you sometime? My plan is ROTC, likely SMP program (Nat. Guard infantry), branch 11A, then attend SFAS. 1 mile: 7:00 (roughly. Off a track), 5 mile: 40 mins, squat: 205LB, 50 max consecutive push-ups. I know I ain’t the most trained or experienced, but I will work if that’s what I gotta do. Thanks man.
Another banger….JZ, I don’t understand why kids are fixated on SEALS as the only SF option unless he loves the water. This kid can get a GB or Ranger contract and “be all he can be” out the gate. Just run and ruck and he will be fine in the green machine. Get him right bro. Go ARMY!!!
Former Recon Marine here. No real career path so I looked at SF. Wound up being an Army Warrant pilot. Blackhawks and Apaches. You may love the Marine Corps but the Marines don’t love you back.
This video hit home for me I want to do army route and go green beret I'm also 26 with no degree I was thinking going infantry first would be better while I train and get hands on exp. But do you think it would be better to just train at home and go straight for 18x contract at my age?
One thing to consider is going 11x option 4, and then trying out for sf or the 75th from airborne school. That way, if you happen to fail, you've past airborne and dont have a 6 year contract
I'm a Corpsman who went Army (Blue-to-Green program). Whether you want to do all the high-speed-special ops-medical stuff, or just be a regular military healthcare technician; go Army. At least you’ll have a pretty much guaranteed chance of making E-7 (if you choose to go enlisted). You have a better chance at winning $1Million on a lottery scratch off than making HMC in the Navy😅😂🤣 Btw, Jake, I love your brutal honesty with this kid. Kudos 👏
Sounds like marine corps is the hard road. Men are avoiding it looking for the easy road huh. First mistake of challenging yourself looking for the easiest way. Just saying
I was a Marine a radio tech 2844 went from a 180 to a 285 pft everyone is fit to screen but there is no opportunity you are stuck in your job. For a title
Former Sgt of Marines. Listen to Jake, brother. I love the USMC and am proud of my time, but at your age and what you want, the army is the way. I loved the USMC Brotherhood. It's unlike any other branch, but you will find that in SF. The big military isn't doing anything when there is no war. So, SF is really the only way to go. Navy, if you don't make it, you're fucked. USMC, you can only go to MARSOC with a second enlistment contract, which is still not a great Army- you're good if something happens, you will still end up in a good place The Airforce- has some good SF opportunities.
if you want to join the Premier Regular Infantry unit in the world, Join the Marines. You will get all your Infantry wishes met. you will get treated like shit, for a reason, and every now and then get to lay waste to take out your resentment and hate in the form of aggression towards the enemy. if you want to join special operations do yourself a favor, in the following order. 18X Army. if you get through, you're going to be Special Forces and most likely will have the opportunity to put in your papers and attempt to select for CAG, it will be a long shot but its possible. if you wash out of initial SF selection, you're probably going to be 10th Mountain or 101st Airborne. both units are going to be great units to lay waste to the enemy and you will get treated better than regular Marine Infantry. if you really want to, and you like to gamble, you could go SEAL. If you make it to the Teams, after a couple years in the regular teams you might get to attempt to select for DEV, but half of the approval is a popularity contest. If you wash out of BUD/s....well, you're in the big Navy now, lol. best case scenario is you were smart and went Corpsman and you can serve greenside with the Marines. if you join the Marines thinking you're going to go special warfare, man, even if you make it, you never, ever make it out of the mentality that the Marines have. Which is "you aint special" and you'll end up sitting there in MARSOC, thinking you're a Tier 1 unit (which MARSOC isnt), watching all the really Great Hits go to CAG and DEV and waiting for the call to do what the Tier 2 SEAL teams leave for you.
I spent ten years as a Corpsman. I love the Marine Corps. I love my guys I went to war with and am proud of my community. I also have a son and would tell him hands down go another direction. If you want to be a true medical person, the Navy Hospital Corps is fine. If you have any inclination to fight, go elsewhere. As a HM you are going to hit a point very fast where you find you are wanting to be a war dog in one of the least combat oriented branches in exsistance. SARC's and SOIDC's are meat eaters. But if you dont make it, the fleet awaits. Even if you get Division orders and live the dream, after three years its over. You are going from a platoon to pediatric immunizations and being told to sell lumphia with the third class association. I met many a broken soul that went down that very path.
Im about to pick up the HM-ATF contract (SARC), at 27 years old with a college degree. Im in tip top shape with competitive scores on the PST. AM I DOING THE RIGHT THING HERE?? Someone please point me in the right direction. Everything seems good to me but of course I have little knowledge of military resources and lifestyle.
I’m in the same boat, but at 26 and my CSS needs more work. Wherever you go you’re gonna hear good and bad things about everything. I’ve seen all things they’ve said for SARCs, but there’s no other job in the military i want more than that. Specifically since you get a lot of medical training and my dream is to be a dr once im out. Be a SARC
I'm 27 and looking at becoming a navy sarc. Mainly out of convenience because I already work in healthcare but I also want to do more than sit at base hospital. What would you recommend? I don't want to put off joining any longer. I have a deep family history with army and navy. My dream has been SF my whole life but I've been wavering. Thanks in advance!
@@jakezweig not great whatsoever. I'm working on my cardio after having bronchopneumonia from Covid for 2 months. If I tried to run a five mile it would probably take me an hour.
Lieutenant Zweig, Sir : The Marine Raiders and Reconnaissance Marines need qualified and capable Special Amphibious Reconnaissance Corpsmen ( SARCs) , so too, does DEVGRU. As a Naval Special Warfare Officer, I Myself would expect that You Yourself would understand, Sir.
Hey jake, do you think it’d be a bad idea to get an option 40 at 18? Or do you think i should wait till i’m older to get more life experience? I have no problem with waiting till im older.
The Marine corps ain't doing nothing That's a bad take brother I'll try not to take that too personal. The only difference between grunts and operators is jump school scuba school and you get a shoot a bunch of more rounds practice get all the great gear I'll always remember the grunt that's in the trench fighting for his life and hand-to-hand combat with zero resources That's a hardcore son of a b**** right there
Why hasn't he considered AFSW? PJ pipeline is rough but that would be a guarantee to do the medical aspect as well as Search and rescue. Otherwise Army SF would be the best route for SOF.
@@AKAdaDragon I went to their HQ looking for them, if they don’t take me I’ll go to France and join the Legion. Already got 2+ years of French speaking. They didn’t have to convince me of anything, I don’t need some measly 20 grand bonus as an incentive to join. I’ve been through 7 years of shit just to be able to get the chance to join.
Why does that matter ? They still go to all the get all the same qualifications Combat Controllers are Air Traffic Controllers FAA certified Free fall Airborne Dive Air Assault Can earn Ranger & Special Forces Tab Hell I know Air Force cops that go to Ranger school Air Force Special Warfare are embedded with Army Special Warfare. How do you quantify being smaller as less opportunities?
Do not join the USMC at 26. Holy smoke. You'll get treated like trash by 20 year old Cpl. I'm retired 0369/0321 USMC and I'd recommend Army all day. I love my time in the Corps but "do more with less" got old fast.
A friend of mines son spent a hitch in the Corps, got out went SF, then Delta. He is retired now, living in Hawaii. Btw - hated the way Obama treated Delta
Everything you're saying can be had in the infantry and even more in SOF. Marines are gritty and know how to work through suck but they have the worst leadership, one that makes them work through the suck even when they don't have to. It's a different time now, SOF is the way to go if you wanna be the best and be with the best.
I joined the Army At 28 Texas Army National Guard 2000-2002 United States Army 2002-2009 Iraq 2003 Iraq 2004-2005 Iraq 2006-2007 I joined in 2000 when I went in Army 💯 28 yrs old
This is random. But I just watched a video called. .. Duty and Dishonor: A marines revelation of task unit bruiser. .. About Jocko and Chris kyle Is this old news to you???? Cause they're dogging those 2 guys bad
the green berets are just so much more diverse, only thing marines recon have over army SF is they dont have to do air jumps every 3 months, so many people get career ending injuries from jumps. homie needs to look up how the marine baracks are and if hes ready for that, i never served but i heard they go hard in those barracks with no supervision just you and your fellow marines, i have a brother in law that did 2 tours in iraq stationed out of pedleton told me a few stories. even when i went to high school in oceanside i alwasy hear people getting in fights with the marines at bars , bad ones with weapons and people died. I say that becuase he was at that training event and he said he loved being around the SF guys but that thing is all smiles and recruiting gimmick i think. soryr for the rant.
Jake, mad respect for you and your accomplishments! However, you've never been a Marine......please stop telling people the Corps is terrible! I'm not sure what makes you feel you can look down on us, but its not a good look! If you want to denigrate the Navy, have at it brother, you walked that walk... You've never walked a mile in my shoes, please stop doling out advice like you have! I keep hearing from you, the "what's in it for me" attitude... We don't need, nor want that attitude, in part, its what is poisoning our youth today...
Thank for your comment, you must be new to the channel. I have over 60 officers in the USMC, if I told you what's going on your head would explode. So thanks for the support and keep it up.
Interesting … just stumbled upon this one might wanna check “Jake’s” facts… Seems like a nice guy, but totally off base on this one. Just make sure you do your own research.
The Navy is HURTING,they just lowered their requirements to enlist ,no high school diploma or GED needed due to poor recruiting numbers, that ship life aint it i had to live on a boat for years before i even got a barracks room, i see why everyone just says F it and gets married for the money (especially in Cali)!
You left out the part where said “it will only take recruits without a diploma if they score a 65 or higher on the qualification test.” So you still need to score high. Without ged or diploma.
@@Discipleofthelordandjesus doesnt matter they still are the only branch that is allowing recruits to enlist without a diploma or GED,that was MY point........Also it's 50 not 65 I'm an actual navy veteran so I know how this works bud!!The Air force has a minimum of 50 as well
@@emzee586that’s is so truth as a marine I can tell you to be in the usmc you need to be a different type of breed, even if he joins the navy to be a corpman he will deal with all the usmc bullshit
Marine Corps material is blindly accepting low pay, poor living stations, poor senior officers/enlisted playing politics, and thinking calling yourself a marine should make up for all of it. Most realize they aren't "marine material" and go Army or at the least join the reserves.
Former Marine here, listen folks Jake is right, it is a brutal lifestyle. Don’t get me wrong though I am a proud Marine and all that but at the end of the day when I was in the Marines we were treated very poorly, and yes at the time the equipment seemed very old and outdated. It’s tough for me as my son is currently in college and wants to sort of follow in my footsteps. I was enlisted but he wants to be a Marine officer. It’s hard because one side of me swells up with pride but the other side of me doesn’t want him to endure that Marine Corps life. I tend to give the advice so often recommended on here and just go Army officer.
Retired Marine here...I agree COMPLETELY. The "high speed" schools/training is NOT happening unless you have a contract with Force or MARSOC.
I was a Cook In the Army with 10th Mountain and we were at Camp Gieger Help Training the Marine SOI for 6 months, I noticed the difference in the way they perceive themselves. There Cooks were extremely Gung Ho as if they were special forces, while our Cooks new we were cooks supporting Light Infantry getting ready for combat, My step some wanted to join the marines, I live near Ft Lewis washington so it was easy to get many Army and even ex Marines opinion on Joining the Army or Marines vs Navy or Air Force. I would say near 99 percent said join Air Force or navy. As well as i was trying to tell him, He did not listen, and he came out authority issues. Seems like he kinda hated it. My career was way more training, way more hours worked and way less days off. But I embraced it plus i had a family, my son was single and just hated it. I only got out because of working 15 hours days and many times 6-7 days a week just dont add up mathematically and i could not change my MOS because how much time left i had in service.
@conchitasnacks You're right. The cooks work LONG hours. It's an unforgiving MOS.
Also what you said about the cooks in the Corps. lol Yep, it's branch wide how they view themselves, and others. One thing we always new in the Army, was that our CS & CSS " Knew " they were grunts or combat arms. No need on acting like em, which usually leads to " Over acting." We found in very interesting when working with Marines.
This dude has absolutely no idea what he’s talking about 😂 SARCS get the exact same medical training as 18D’s AND more. I heard “no goat lab” and had to stop the video. Plus, If you’re a SARC at MARSOC, you get all of the funding. Please do not try to give advice if you don’t know anything about the job. It’s quite frustrating.
There’s alot more opportunities being in the Army than there is being in the Marine Corps. Let alone bonuses and living conditions.
Man y'all are lucky to have jake because he's telling y'all the truth, versus a recruiter who's on shore duty just trying to fill quotas.
Listen to this man he actually cares
Dude Jake is so right about pushing you to the army. Worst case you fail selection, you’ll still be infantry! Plus very little swimming! Army or air force for sure. If you pass sf q course, that’s automatically E6 in like 2 years! Ruck twice a week And get your cardio up. Sf likes them a little older anyway. You’re mature, you’ll kill it. Don’t go ranger. SF ALL THE WAY
Bet that bro. I just turned 24. Didn’t pass rasp unfortunately. Thinkin about giving SF a shot after some train up
18xray all the way. Sf. Go local library. Study asvab latest edition. Get your 3 mile 18 minutes. Pullups 20 and push up 90 plus. I worked for pma. Did paper work all the time. For navy challenge programs. Also was part of study team thats still under non disclosure. But It sucks accepting so many i to the programs. Big Navy especially. They fill all these 2 month selection classes with far more than they need, with guys that would destroy in sf. Rescue, diver. Seal eod and swcc. They advertise and make the classes big as possible, knowing only few will make it past selection. Because big navy uses their prestige and bug graduation bonuses to attract so many, just so majority will fill needs of Navy.
Marine Corp infantry teaches you how to survive life in the most brutal situations.
Including the most brutal situation of all: having signed up for the USMC. 😂😂😂 Lol jk
Great video. Jake is giving great advice. If you are 24 and older with little to no college experience, and decide to enlist then definitely go Special Forces. Once one makes it through the entire Q course then within 2 years of being on a ODA team, you get promoted to E-6, and have a bunch of schools to go to. If you want an experience that is similar to the USMC in terms of discipline but more physical and better training then try out for Ranger Regiment.
Jake!!!! It’s your boy Mike from New Zealand…..love your videos….chaaaahoooo ..left school joined the Airforce….got arrested after 7yrs service….so joined the Police to take the corrupt cop down from the inside…8yrs in the popo then saw the light and joined the fire service as a career firefighter…still going hard fighting fires at 50 …and still listening to your great advice…..keep up the great work 🤙🏿
Awesome hero arc 🎉
I dated a Kiwi girl once...a lot of fush and chups jokes...
Not only does the Marine Corps have fewer opportunities - leadership will hold you back.
Jake is telling yall the truth here. I was a regular grunt (infantry) corpsman. In my time they were begging us to go Recon/SARC. They even had the Division Surgeon (O-6, Full Bird Captain) come to each unit in First Marine Division recruiting guys to go SARC, giving orders immediately upon passing the PST. Why? Because dudes were getting out and going Army like Jake said.
What’s a “regular” grunt corpsman?
@@emzee586 8404 line corpsman attached to a infantry line platoon, as opposed to SARC or a more specialized tech corpsman like an OR Tech or even Independent Duty Corpsman
Ive never seen that but i looked on community health snapshot and it sucks lol Im a corpsman myself and ive been eyeing 19th SF group SFRE
Jake always speaks that true knowledge
Jake given some old school OG advice...
The great thing about going Army and going for Ranger or Green Beret is, for whatever reason you don't make it, you more than likely will end up in the 82nd Airborne Div as a paratrooper, which in itself is something to be proud to be.
Absolutely
Retired Marine here. Jake is right on point. I love the Corps, however the army has many more opportunities. Funding is ALWAYS a problem in the Marine Corps. It generally doesn't take 6 years to make E-5, though. A squared away Marine can make E-5 in 3 years, depending on MOS.
Top you realize that they’re not talking about sexual assault response coordinator in the Marine Corps correct? about US Navy special amphibious reconnaissance Corpsmen… Funding through Department of Navy, enlisted classification training not attached to USMC pot of funds… it does not take six years for a SARC to make E5/HM2… That’s on the individual if it takes that long, not USMC promotion requirements/cutting scores/boat space.
@@porkchop2471 I am fully aware of what they are talking about. Jake stated that it may take 6 years to make E-5 in the Marine Corps. I stated that that is generally not the case.
@@RetiredTop43 so ask yourself, what does a person wanting to be a special amphibious reconnaissance Corman, with promotion and rank solely attributed to USN metrics have anything to do with making sergeant in the United States Marine Corps? Totally agree that, depending on one’s choice of MOS, it may take an exorbitant amount of time to make rank in the USMC, but that is not the case within the USN. I’ve known nine year sergeants and 7 year staff sergeants etc you know how it goes. People are conflating navy promotion periods and opportunities with Marine Corps promotions and opportunities. They are not synonymous nor related in any way.
@@porkchop2471 Did you actually watch the video? SMH. By the way, it is Corpsman, not Corman.
@@RetiredTop43 dictation likes to misspell shit. You’ll get over it. SOIC/SARC, attend exact same course as Air Force PJ and army Green Berets, which gives the army Green Beret their MOS of “18 D“ all three tactical/operational medical expertise are identical at that point.
Everyone I’ve ever met love Marines. Shawn Ryan said he’s never seen more motivated group, jocko said marines are the most capable, Tim K. Said they are always good. Don’t let someone dictate your career. Whether a TH-camr or dad
LOL 😆 🤣 😂 funny dude not one of those dudes were in the USMC
They love the title of being a Marine, doesn't mean they didn't hate life while in or could have had much more opportunity elsewhere. Listen to people that have been there. Nothing wrong with being a Marine, but choosing that because of the marketing is dumb. The average Marine pog is more motivated than the average Army pog, but there are many places in the Army that will marvel you with their level of professionalism. If you're intelligent and physically fit you can get way more out of your service than what the Marine Corps can provide. Especially for this dude at 26 years old, I almost made the same mistake and it would have been catastrophic.
As a former Marine, join any other branch if you want more career opportunities.
Dude they respect the Marines but it doesn't mean the actual marine corp experience is great. Shii I was in the Navy as machinist mate on an cvn-74 and then tad to a riverine squadron in Bahrain.
From experience Jake is right Navy sucks unless you're doing cool stuff like a seal or swcc. Marine Corp is just the Navy's bitch too.
If you want your benefits with a 9-5 job go air force, if you want all that high speed action go army.
@jakezweig so off the wall question how does a mark 5 handle in rough seas ..and what's the biggest swells you have rode in.also how big are the sleeping quarters
Check out FNG Academy if you’re trying to become a Green Beret. They help prepare you for selection
Yes sir
Jake you said hit you back when I’m 210 I’m 6’3 237 now almost there.
Keep driving man !!!!! CONGRATS
Did 10 in the Corps and got out at E6, so trust me that its not for everyone. If you don't have a particular, hellbent reason to become a Marine, then don't do it. I enlisted with buddies that went into other branches of service and were promoted faster and had more opportunities. In the Marines, it is very difficult to change your MOS and you best believe your command will chastise you for wanting to progress out of your field. You'll be a Marine all day, but that's about it. If I had to do it again, I would've went army or only done one contract in the Marines. E6 only takes 6 years to reach and you'll go a lot farther if you're a PT stud. Nobody in the Marines is coming to look for you to join a specialized unit. From what I've seen, the Army is more likely to meet you at the table.
Facts
I did 8 years in the Corps. After my first enlistment I tried to lateral move into Counter Intel and it was my command that hosed me. They fucked me out of a lot of money and a life changing opportunity. While I agree with Jake on the unlimited resources the Army has to offer because of the sheer size of the service, I pinned on rank pretty quickly and that was never an issue for me. You have to want to be a Marine, I tell anyone who asks me, if you're on the fence that shit ain't for you.
@keithboyd1070 sorry the green weenie got you. Unfortunately that's the reason I got out. I was a SSgt at 10 years and realized you're still a PFC if a 1st Sgt or MSgt is on a power trip. During the war, the Corps was the best branch for deployments and the leadership was there to take of Marines. Now it's just inexperienced officers and disgruntled senior enlisted trying to run it.
Former SARC here… this guy must be confused. I went to 18D airborne combat dive SERE and deployed on combat missions. SARCs don’t get treated like shit and Marines are the first in anytime ground forces are needed not seals or green berets.
734 834 7944 lets talk about it and set me strait
As a marine , listen to Jake go army bub. I’m about to switch for that exact reason. OPPORTUNITY
The Marine Corps was full of people like me. I LOVED it. Did promotions suck? Yes, go to boards and get meritorious promo. Did our equipment suck? Hell yeah. But the Marines I served with and am still friends with to this day are worth 6 years of sucking shit. I got nothing but great memories.
Navy Sarcs are like on point with Paramedic 1 and like a nurse, The SEALs are using SARCs now, PJs zre great but they arent trained in sustained medicine like the SARCs that's like the longest pipeline in the whole military along with SF medic or 18 delta.
Lol don’t forget you’re competing through PST scores for the SARC route on that HM-ATF contract. If your scores are not up to par (SEAL standards, as said in the navadmin) it’s a no and you’re getting DMT or SAR which you can come out with your paramedic and maybe critical care( get out go to the fire department who are hurting for medics get paid 65-70k off rip without OT.) Then they don’t even put you in a 800 div in boot to keep up with swimming / running for HM-ATF.
I was an instructor in trauma 3 at the Socom course alongside an exceptional SOIDC from recon. He was an E-5 and i was an E-7. Our experiences doing combat medicine were similar but i had vastly more clinical experience due to JCET's. My life was also much more enjoyable on an ODA while also getting intel and shooting courses. Same dudes, way less opportunity. I also made 7 in 7, which is unconscionable in his situation. You have so many moves in SF as well, if you want to try something else. Cif company, delta direct support, ASOT, etc..
SOIDCs (SARCs don’t exist in the Navy anymore) go through the same level of tactical training as green berets, and literally go through the exact same medical courses side by side with 18Ds
Thank you sir ! Thank you for disseminating wisdom.
I’m interested in the marines as well but I’m a trust Jake on this one
Don’t do it man… It’s like being a prisoner with a salary.
Yeah, don't bro, you'll hate life. Hell, depending what mos and unit you end up in the Army you might hate life as well, but at least you got a shot at a much better quality of life. Not to mention if you aren't happy in your career field you've got various selections you can attend and packet mos's that you can drop to reclass to if you meet the standard. Be exceptional at pt, be a team player, have a gt score above 110 on the asvab and be where you're told with the gear you were told to bring and you can write your own ticket.
All these guys are p@$$y, talk to all recruiters and see.
Trust him, and I say this as a former Marine.
SARC is not a thing anymore, now all corpsmen with recon and MARSOC are SOIDCS. Their medical pipeline is the same as 18Ds; same schoolhouse. The money thing is true on the recon side (Marine Corps money), but on the Raider side, the world is your oyster (SOCOM money), many same missions as SF. The one bennie of SOIDC over 18D is that dive and dive medicine is built into the pipeline, and a lot less down time during the pipeline compared to the Q course.
I think there’s a lot down time in the SARC pipeline too. I have friends who waited a long time inbetween schools.
Agreed. SOIDC seems far more promising than SARC. SOIDCs even deploy with SEAL teams sometimes.
@@Clowncentral101 It became a friction point in career growth, and you lost a body to SFMS to get SOIDC. Time, money, and career progression are why they killed SARC. NSW has killed their medic program, now SEALs will be going through SOCM (but unlikely SFMS).
Marines like being marine’s because they are taught to do more with less. It’s a dumb gamble. I see the way they did Zerbin Singleton a pilot with 3 masters and a ba… crazy what they’ll do to a person .
exactly that’s why i wanna be a Marine everyone’s like “it’s gonna suck and be so hard” that’s why i wanna be a Marine and that’s why i’m going Infantry 😂 also the equipment for the Infantry in the Corps is actually extremely up to date now. they have high cuts and M27s with suppressorss
@@JJReal-m7x my family is a Marine family and no i’m aware it’s not gonna be a sexy kind of suck. I like pain it only makes you stronger and that’s a fact 😂 but that’s another one of the reasons i’m going with that Route
@@CitrusRed1478lmaoooo 😂
Jake, He should contact the 20th SFG Recruiter in Maryland. National Guard SF is the army’s hidden secret, make no mistake about that, and he can roll over to active duty if he gets selected, when I went to SFAS I know a few cats who did that
Also for those trying to go Back in, They have this thing in the guard called a “try one” program for prior service of any branch. Meaning you sign up for one year, and if you don’t make it through SFAS you don’t have to extend, or be stuck in an infantry unit. The only thing you have to do in that 1 year contract is get selected, and they help you practice for land nav, team week, ect. It’s WAY better than an active duty 18X because even prior service dudes have to sign up for 6 years If they want to be SF through active duty, and because you can easily go from Guard to active duty IF you do get selected, it makes no sense to sign a 6 year contract when you can do the exact same thing, only to fail and get sent to an infantry unit at 26 years old.
For non prior service or fresh Guard 18X’s who are OLDER, the plus side is if you fail you only have to deal with bullshit one weekend a month, and you have 6 years to try again if you wish to
This is the move fr.
For those non-prior service unable to get guard 18X (perm resident / non citizen), would you suggest to go 11B or 68W for MOS before selection? Currently locate in NYC and thinking about whether should go RI for 143rd / airborne contract
@@Raven_623 what does being prior service have to do with it
@@DylanAce6 prior service are the only ones who get the “try one” 18X contract, regular 18X’s with no military background have to sign up for 6 years, Guard or active duty
But if you hate Army bullshit, go 18X guard because if you fail at least you only deal with it once a month, and if you get selected you can go into active duty if you want to
@@Raven_623 I mean.. I did infantry, and volunteered for SFAS when I was active duty, but I didn’t make through selection because I failed the STAR Course
I am eventually going back to SFAS through the National guard, and I learned that they offer the “try one” for prior service wanting to check out SFAS
it’s probably the best way to sell military service for hard dudes who got out of the Army or Marines looking to go back after a shitty experience in the infantry, or “big army” as we called it
🔥 AS ALWAYS!!!
I love the MARINE CORPS. It’s true the MARINES don’t promise you a rose garden, you don’t get to have the cool patches, and the sexy Tactical 5.11 beards, but the one thing that hasn’t changed yet is the saying “The change is forever”. MARINES have a different approach to military life and war fighting. I appreciate what I gained from my time in the Corps, it’s something that will never change, and it’s something I can fall back on when I need pick myself up.
This guy has no idea about what a navy SARC does. There is plenty of opportunity.
The medical training between a SARC and 18D is the exact same. However, as a Navy Corpsman, 100% go Army. Zero funding on the Marine side of the house. Recon is also incredibly underutilized.
Former Marine recruiter here. You’re too old, do not go into the Marines for special force, the only entry level is recon. My office alone sent over 20 dudes, only one made it. The rest ended up being motor-t, admin or cook.
The Army is a better pipeline and they’ll have it available and guaranteed. Marines only have few Reconnaissance contracts available for like October to November.
Hey man you down to jump on zoom ? 734 834 7944
@@jakezweig hey, how’s it going? I just saw your reply. I’ll shoot you a text.
Everyone want to be a badass but yet they want the path of least resistance. What will you do on the hard road alone
Rucking is more important for SF
SARC’s and green beret medic do the same Med course.
I would say go Army just for the simple fact it’s just really hard to make rank as a HM in the Navy.
airforce taking 42 yr olds i wander if 42 yr olds can actually have a good run at anything worth a dam
As a SARC unless you’re married you’re gonna be living in the barracks until you make E6 cause you abide by Marine rules. It’s hard to make rank as a corpsman too, you’re competing with corpsman navy wide.
Wrong on both.
@@trefinock I may indeed be wrong. I’m guessing you’re a SOIDC yourself? That is who I heard this info from.
@@DylanAce6 off-base with BAH (non-married) upon arrival to permanent duty station. Meritorious promotion X2. Just my experience….
Hey Jake, I’m an 18 senior in high school that’s been watching your videos for a while and I think you’re straight up guy with solid advice. Is it possible to talk with you sometime? My plan is ROTC, likely SMP program (Nat. Guard infantry), branch 11A, then attend SFAS.
1 mile: 7:00 (roughly. Off a track), 5 mile: 40 mins, squat: 205LB, 50 max consecutive push-ups.
I know I ain’t the most trained or experienced, but I will work if that’s what I gotta do. Thanks man.
Special Forces in National Guard Special forces Medic or other plus they cross train each other
Another banger….JZ, I don’t understand why kids are fixated on SEALS as the only SF option unless he loves the water. This kid can get a GB or Ranger contract and “be all he can be” out the gate. Just run and ruck and he will be fine in the green machine. Get him right bro. Go ARMY!!!
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Former Recon Marine here. No real career path so I looked at SF. Wound up being an Army Warrant pilot. Blackhawks and Apaches. You may love the Marine Corps but the Marines don’t love you back.
This video hit home for me I want to do army route and go green beret I'm also 26 with no degree I was thinking going infantry first would be better while I train and get hands on exp. But do you think it would be better to just train at home and go straight for 18x contract at my age?
Love your videos man you really have taught me a lot and this is definitely the best SO SF info I've been able to find in all of the internet
One thing to consider is going 11x option 4, and then trying out for sf or the 75th from airborne school. That way, if you happen to fail, you've past airborne and dont have a 6 year contract
I'm a Corpsman who went Army (Blue-to-Green program). Whether you want to do all the high-speed-special ops-medical stuff, or just be a regular military healthcare technician; go Army. At least you’ll have a pretty much guaranteed chance of making E-7 (if you choose to go enlisted). You have a better chance at winning $1Million on a lottery scratch off than making HMC in the Navy😅😂🤣
Btw, Jake, I love your brutal honesty with this kid. Kudos 👏
Sounds like marine corps is the hard road. Men are avoiding it looking for the easy road huh. First mistake of challenging yourself looking for the easiest way. Just saying
I was a Marine a radio tech 2844 went from a 180 to a 285 pft everyone is fit to screen but there is no opportunity you are stuck in your job. For a title
The Army has the best resources and the best schools
Army deploys way more than the marines.
Former Sgt of Marines. Listen to Jake, brother. I love the USMC and am proud of my time, but at your age and what you want, the army is the way. I loved the USMC Brotherhood. It's unlike any other branch, but you will find that in SF. The big military isn't doing anything when there is no war. So, SF is really the only way to go. Navy, if you don't make it, you're fucked. USMC, you can only go to MARSOC with a second enlistment contract, which is still not a great
Army- you're good if something happens, you will still end up in a good place
The Airforce- has some good SF opportunities.
He need to go Army 18D Ranger are Air Force
Honestly, 2 or 3 miles for 18x is fine
Where were you back in 1985 before i enlisted in the marine Corps?
Tell me about it 85 would have helped me also
if you want to join the Premier Regular Infantry unit in the world, Join the Marines. You will get all your Infantry wishes met. you will get treated like shit, for a reason, and every now and then get to lay waste to take out your resentment and hate in the form of aggression towards the enemy.
if you want to join special operations do yourself a favor, in the following order.
18X Army. if you get through, you're going to be Special Forces and most likely will have the opportunity to put in your papers and attempt to select for CAG, it will be a long shot but its possible. if you wash out of initial SF selection, you're probably going to be 10th Mountain or 101st Airborne. both units are going to be great units to lay waste to the enemy and you will get treated better than regular Marine Infantry.
if you really want to, and you like to gamble, you could go SEAL. If you make it to the Teams, after a couple years in the regular teams you might get to attempt to select for DEV, but half of the approval is a popularity contest. If you wash out of BUD/s....well, you're in the big Navy now, lol. best case scenario is you were smart and went Corpsman and you can serve greenside with the Marines.
if you join the Marines thinking you're going to go special warfare, man, even if you make it, you never, ever make it out of the mentality that the Marines have. Which is "you aint special" and you'll end up sitting there in MARSOC, thinking you're a Tier 1 unit (which MARSOC isnt), watching all the really Great Hits go to CAG and DEV and waiting for the call to do what the Tier 2 SEAL teams leave for you.
Worst funding yet kicks ass regardless.
👍 100000000% you don't want them showing up in your back yard
SARC is a very hard pipeline
Yes it is
If you want the best opportunity and “Gucci” training go to the Air Force spec ops.
You are assuming that you make it
I spent ten years as a Corpsman. I love the Marine Corps. I love my guys I went to war with and am proud of my community. I also have a son and would tell him hands down go another direction. If you want to be a true medical person, the Navy Hospital Corps is fine. If you have any inclination to fight, go elsewhere. As a HM you are going to hit a point very fast where you find you are wanting to be a war dog in one of the least combat oriented branches in exsistance. SARC's and SOIDC's are meat eaters. But if you dont make it, the fleet awaits. Even if you get Division orders and live the dream, after three years its over. You are going from a platoon to pediatric immunizations and being told to sell lumphia with the third class association. I met many a broken soul that went down that very path.
Thank you for the huge comment
Im about to pick up the HM-ATF contract (SARC), at 27 years old with a college degree. Im in tip top shape with competitive scores on the PST. AM I DOING THE RIGHT THING HERE?? Someone please point me in the right direction. Everything seems good to me but of course I have little knowledge of military resources and lifestyle.
I’m in the same boat, but at 26 and my CSS needs more work. Wherever you go you’re gonna hear good and bad things about everything. I’ve seen all things they’ve said for SARCs, but there’s no other job in the military i want more than that. Specifically since you get a lot of medical training and my dream is to be a dr once im out. Be a SARC
@@everything1k217My dream is also to be a Dr. I’m currently in the process of joining and will choose HM-ATF
I'm 27 and looking at becoming a navy sarc. Mainly out of convenience because I already work in healthcare but I also want to do more than sit at base hospital. What would you recommend? I don't want to put off joining any longer. I have a deep family history with army and navy. My dream has been SF my whole life but I've been wavering.
Thanks in advance!
What is your 5 mile time
@@jakezweig not great whatsoever. I'm working on my cardio after having bronchopneumonia from Covid for 2 months. If I tried to run a five mile it would probably take me an hour.
@@savannahalvarez8292 hit me up lets chat jake.zweig@gmail.com
What do you think about navy MA vs army MP
Lieutenant Zweig, Sir : The Marine Raiders and Reconnaissance Marines need qualified and capable Special Amphibious Reconnaissance Corpsmen ( SARCs) , so too, does DEVGRU. As a Naval Special Warfare Officer, I Myself would expect that You Yourself would understand, Sir.
It's a bad choice!!!! That's the facts
Jake is just stating the facts Sir.
Im also 26 going into the marines. But im gunning for recon/marsoc, do you their training is worth it?
If youre going marsoc they require you to do 4 years before even being considered to join, youll be 30 by the time you could even do marsoc. Good luck
Ask for the army pdf jake.zweig@gmail.com
Hey jake, do you think it’d be a bad idea to get an option 40 at 18? Or do you think i should wait till i’m older to get more life experience? I have no problem with waiting till im older.
TAKE IT NOW !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! GREAT PLAN
@@jakezweig Not 18 just yet, i guess ill worry about getting the contract when the time comes, for now im gonna focus on getting ready
Do it. RLTW. Rangers love young dudes they can shape and train.
The Marine corps ain't doing nothing That's a bad take brother I'll try not to take that too personal. The only difference between grunts and operators is jump school scuba school and you get a shoot a bunch of more rounds practice get all the great gear I'll always remember the grunt that's in the trench fighting for his life and hand-to-hand combat with zero resources That's a hardcore son of a b**** right there
Yo Jake how do you feel about delta force? If I have to opportunity to screen would you go delta force or seals?
I know one is tier 1 and the other is tier2 but I’d like you opinion on it
What? First they are in 2 different services. Delta kicks butt, seals kick butt
@@jakezweig which one you like better?
@@CitrusRed1478 don’t care about grammar in TH-cam just typing as fast as possible
If you’re on here asking that, you aren’t ready for either.
Well MA it is
Why hasn't he considered AFSW? PJ pipeline is rough but that would be a guarantee to do the medical aspect as well as Search and rescue. Otherwise Army SF would be the best route for SOF.
There are 189 PJ on active duty ...no opportunity
PJs don’t even get to go to SOCM long or short so you’re missing out on 50-82 college credits at USU toward a BS in Health Sciences for free.
How can I get better at running miles?
Email jake.zweig@gmail.com ask for the navy seal pdf or the army pdf
I’m getting ready to go into the marine corps, sounds fun.
Recruiters fooled you fr
@@AKAdaDragon I went to their HQ looking for them, if they don’t take me I’ll go to France and join the Legion. Already got 2+ years of French speaking. They didn’t have to convince me of anything, I don’t need some measly 20 grand bonus as an incentive to join. I’ve been through 7 years of shit just to be able to get the chance to join.
Aren't SARCs Navy, and not a Marine MOS?
They are the docs in the Marine Corp
What about Air Force PJ ?
189 of them?
Why does that matter ?
They still go to all the get all the same qualifications
Combat Controllers are Air Traffic Controllers
FAA certified
Free fall
Airborne
Dive
Air Assault
Can earn Ranger & Special Forces Tab
Hell I know Air Force cops that go to Ranger school
Air Force Special Warfare are embedded with Army Special Warfare. How do you quantify being smaller as less opportunities?
@OldWizard-tt5lt because everyone in the air forces is trying and they only have 189 .... its as hard as BUDS
Do not join the USMC at 26. Holy smoke. You'll get treated like trash by 20 year old Cpl. I'm retired 0369/0321 USMC and I'd recommend Army all day. I love my time in the Corps but "do more with less" got old fast.
A friend of mines son spent a hitch in the Corps, got out went SF, then Delta. He is retired now, living in Hawaii. Btw - hated the way Obama treated Delta
Marine corps will build you mentally and physically. You will adapt to all situations and you will have a big family who has your back for life.
Everything you're saying can be had in the infantry and even more in SOF. Marines are gritty and know how to work through suck but they have the worst leadership, one that makes them work through the suck even when they don't have to. It's a different time now, SOF is the way to go if you wanna be the best and be with the best.
Why are ya goin to fight for 2 years to stay in ranger battalion?
RFSed
I joined the Army At 28
Texas Army National Guard
2000-2002
United States Army
2002-2009
Iraq 2003
Iraq 2004-2005
Iraq 2006-2007
I joined in 2000 when I went in Army 💯 28 yrs old
Thank you
This is random. But I just watched a video called. .. Duty and Dishonor: A marines revelation of task unit bruiser. .. About Jocko and Chris kyle
Is this old news to you????
Cause they're dogging those 2 guys bad
@john-nx4xn yah it's the toxic culture of the seal teams
the green berets are just so much more diverse, only thing marines recon have over army SF is they dont have to do air jumps every 3 months, so many people get career ending injuries from jumps. homie needs to look up how the marine baracks are and if hes ready for that, i never served but i heard they go hard in those barracks with no supervision just you and your fellow marines, i have a brother in law that did 2 tours in iraq stationed out of pedleton told me a few stories. even when i went to high school in oceanside i alwasy hear people getting in fights with the marines at bars , bad ones with weapons and people died. I say that becuase he was at that training event and he said he loved being around the SF guys but that thing is all smiles and recruiting gimmick i think. soryr for the rant.
“never served” enough said…move along.
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Jake, mad respect for you and your accomplishments! However, you've never been a Marine......please stop telling people the Corps is terrible! I'm not sure what makes you feel you can look down on us, but its not a good look! If you want to denigrate the Navy, have at it brother, you walked that walk... You've never walked a mile in my shoes, please stop doling out advice like you have! I keep hearing from you, the "what's in it for me" attitude... We don't need, nor want that attitude, in part, its what is poisoning our youth today...
Thank for your comment, you must be new to the channel. I have over 60 officers in the USMC, if I told you what's going on your head would explode. So thanks for the support and keep it up.
Interesting … just stumbled upon this one might wanna check “Jake’s” facts… Seems like a nice guy, but totally off base on this one. Just make sure you do your own research.
That dude is spot on rn
You must be new here so, enjoy
The Navy is HURTING,they just lowered their requirements to enlist ,no high school diploma or GED needed due to poor recruiting numbers, that ship life aint it i had to live on a boat for years before i even got a barracks room, i see why everyone just says F it and gets married for the money (especially in Cali)!
Yeah bro recruiting hasn’t been worse in a long time. A lot of good people don’t wanna join under this admin, especially with wars drawing down.
You left out the part where said “it will only take recruits without a diploma if they score a 65 or higher on the qualification test.” So you still need to score high. Without ged or diploma.
@@Discipleofthelordandjesus doesnt matter they still are the only branch that is allowing recruits to enlist without a diploma or GED,that was MY point........Also it's 50 not 65 I'm an actual navy veteran so I know how this works bud!!The Air force has a minimum of 50 as well
@@Roger-il8iw exactly ,not worth it anymore to be honest!0
@@deionjohnson8683I’m not your bud boy. Watch your mouth enlistee. You will salute your superior officers .
I'm a Marine and Army veteran and trust me Marine Corps spec ops is a joke compared to the Green Berets.
This kid needs to join the army. Not Marine Corps material.
@@GetOffTheCrackPipeMmmkay based on personality. Each branch is as valuable as the other. Kids need to join the branch that suits each of them best.
Thats a dumb assessment
@@emzee586that’s is so truth as a marine I can tell you to be in the usmc you need to be a different type of breed, even if he joins the navy to be a corpman he will deal with all the usmc bullshit
Marine Corps material is blindly accepting low pay, poor living stations, poor senior officers/enlisted playing politics, and thinking calling yourself a marine should make up for all of it. Most realize they aren't "marine material" and go Army or at the least join the reserves.