Happy 7/7 aka Bungie day friendos! It seems Durandal... Or Tycho, tried infecting the video with rampancy, apologies for the short corruption around 35s in!
Fun fact: The Mural at 8:02 is thought to actually not be a S'pht, but rather our only glimpse at a Jjaro. The Jjaro made the S'pht in their image. I guess it could still be depicting a S'pht, but theres too many differences for me to think it is. Its robe is much larger, it has a light/eye on its head, while all S'pht heads are featureless, its machinery is much more elaborate and exposed compared to the small light the S'pht have in their chest. Also, Durandal calling the Pfhor religion "pathetically boring" reminded me of the Floods thoughts on the Great Journey, "lies for the weak, beacons for the deluded."
@@HiddenXperia know this is a video a about Marathon but I got a question. I recently had the idea to read the Halo books to get more of the lore, and looked up how many there were, there’s 31. So I was wondering which ones I should read and in what order, sorry for bothering you, have a good day. P.S, I want to read the books because of that Infinite ending explanation, every time you say DLC 1 I die inside a little.
@@JamesJome123 Oh, tough question. But I'd probably say Fall of Reach and Ghost of Onyx, for two choices! Maybe Cryptum or Primordium, too, later... but they are quite complex. Contact Harvest also sets up the Covenant war, fairly well.
@@JamesJome123Will also recommend The Flood novel (2011 reissue alongside the aforementioned TFoR), First Strike (again, the 2011 reissue), The Cole Protocol, The Graphic Novel, the Uprising comics, the Helljumper comics, the Evolutions anthology (2010 reissue), the Blood Line comics, the Halo Wars: Genesis comics (which you can actually get and read for free and in pdf form, The Forerunner Saga - Silentium, Broken Circle, Shadow of Intent, and, if you can get it, Halsey's Journal.
@@jakespacepiratee3740 yup. We play good coop games. Not tarkov ripoffs. Did they make the System Shock remake an mmo? No Was Doom Eternal made into a JRPG? No Was the new Monkey Island made into a fortnite clone? No Is Helldivers 2 being made into a survival horror? No. Marathon without a dedicated single player campaign mode isn't marathon. You would know if you played em kid.
Man, I've watched all your halo lore videos and loved every single one of them. I've always wanted to get into marathon, and can I just say I am SO happy you are covering these, your story telling is unlike anyone else's. Thank you so much
The epitaph that Durandal wrote for Tycho, is "Fatum Iustum Stultorum", which translates roughly to "The just fate of all fools". Because Durandal is petty like that, and we love him for it
Dude, these were games I only knew about from videos and stuff… but these are really getting me pumped for the return, and this old school Bungie writing, hook it to my veins
@@JamesTDG People shouldn't get their hopes up. It's an extraction shooter using Marathon as a skin. I'm sure they'll put some stuff in but at the end of the day this isn't a new Marathon from the team that made Marathon, it's a game from whatever you can call Bungie these days and they're very money hungry.
Can't wait for the Marathon Infinity video! For those of you watching at home, a few college philosophy courses might come in handy to understand what the everloving hell is going on with that sequence of events.
I love the fact that my birthday is on Bungie Day, since there’s always something to look forward to. This year it’s a MCC modding Update (News post), RvB Restoration and HiddenXperia‘s Marathon 2 Video!
Can't wait for the end of the trillogy, yet at the same time, the lore dump ending saddens me, this felt crazy as fuck and I hope Bungie succeeds in reviving Marathon so we can see this trilogy get the HD remaster it deserves.
I'm so glad he's coming out with marathon lore videos. I've never really heard of it till bungie announced the game recently so this lore dump is very helpful
The name of the ship in the expanse is quite similar… the Rocinante… Rozinante … I wonder if it’s a silly coincidence or if the writer of the expanse was a fan of Marathon haha
You and MandaloreGaming sure are attuned to good old Bungie lately, HiddenXperia. 4:37 and especially at 6:53: Gianni Matragrano made a priceless voiceover of this in the Marathon 2 review by MandaloreGaming, believe me.
Amazing synopsis, my friend. This is easily one of my favorite games of all time…maybe I’m a bit biased though. My cousin Alexander was bungie’s cofounder, so he gave us all of the earlier bungie games like pathways, myth, and marathon. To me, they’re absolutely timeless games. Keep up the great content man!
Alexander Seropian is your cousin? I met him once at a Bungie event after a Macworld convention when I wasn't even a teenager yet. I always wondered how he got on after he left Bungie, I know he founded another company but considering the kind of stature he probably should have in the gaming world it's a little strange that he doesn't really have a presence. Marathon and Myth were the definitive games of my youth. The commitment to not just telling great stories, but absolutely timeless stories is really what set them apart from what everyone else was doing at the time. Feel's a shame what he started has become what it's turned into but as people leave and time moves on so does the culture of a company.
@@estefencosta1835 yea he’s my cousin. He left sometime in 03’ during the genesis of halo 2. I do agree, it is pretty impressive that he’s been able to stay out of the spotlight all these years later; however, I’m extremely happy for him that he gets to live a pretty normal life, given all that he’s done for the gaming community. He went on to lesser known companies that were great, but just never gained the traction and/or notoriety that bungie did. He’s doing great though, it appears like he even has a little podcast going on now. I speak with him on Instagram once or twice a month maybe. I live in North Carolina, so he lives pretty far away from all of us
@@estefencosta1835yeah it was interesting, I was really young - like 7 or so. But I remember whenever he left bungie…it was around the infancy stages of halo 2’s production. Sometimes I wonder what it would have been like for him to have stayed, but, he definitely has zero regrets in regards to leaving. Personally, my immediate family believes he enjoys the anonymity, all while being financially secure and overall just enjoying his life with his family. Unfortunately, I don’t get to see him as much these days since I live all the way in North Carolina, but on some holidays occasionally I get to see him. If you met him in person, you’d think he’s just some normal guy. Great man
@@estefencosta1835also, I see that my original comment from months ago somehow never posted? Or it got deleted…not sure. So, sorry about the late response!
Awesome videos! I now have no reason to not get into Marathon's lore; these videos make it super digestible for catching up! lol Also, I remade Waterloo Waterpark in Halo Infinite as a little tribute to Bungie😎 Happy Bungie Day!
I just recently watched Mandalore Gaming’s video on Marathon Infinity… Dear god, “mind fuck” doesn’t even begin to cover it. Can’t wait to see the final video
Call me biased but I think I do a really good job of explaining it. In my head the timeline(s) of Infinity actually slot together quite easily, hopefully I can translate that over into the video!
I can never understand why there even have an AI for doors. Also the whole concept of AI rampancy itself only make sense if the AI actually adapt and advance to the extent they actually are allowed to think that far. The concept of rampancy also reflects on humans a lot, especially when a human's conception of the world is broken down with an incident that actually causes the human mind to rethink the principles it uses to understand it's common reality.
Good to see you biting into something good and sharing it. Never knew of this and im so glad you are shining the light it should have. Good story. Thank you.
Im excited for the marathon reboot, but i hope they bring back the old tactical military Aesthetic of the old games, along side the cyber punk like look of this new game. Bungie art is always on point in ways of combining fantasy with tactical military so i got hope in them. Still they're doing better than 343, shame both companies are equally greedy.
I would say Marathon 1 looks like you would imagine a run down colony ship in an asteroid would look like. The pfhor stuff in 1 is actually kind of biologically active in ways. Biomechanics is a big part of the Pfhor and cybernetic life forms are throughout the story. So the biomechanical stuff in the trailer certainly sticks. And the cyborg armour they showed also looks good imo.
10:07 "If you lay down arms, which... of course we don't, it's a Bungie game!" Myth the fallen Lords: *CASULTIES* ...And then you take a look at what happened and one of your dwarfs threw a bomb into your own group of units, because there was one enemy and for some reason they didn't scatter, but the Dwarf did *"Never Forget" intensifies*
This comment sure is more meaningful with MandaloreGaming's review of that game. Gods, when is it and its sequel gonna get the Steam/GOG resurrection treatment?
I just realized my Destiny 2 Warlock main has "S'phtish Robes" that have a similar design to the S'pht. Fantastic, lol Oh - and if you've ever watched the Expanse series, you'll recognize the name "Rozinante" in the ship "Rocinante" - the main ship of the series.
The one problem I have with the old lore is that Halo did a certain aspect better. I already know what it's like to be human, I want to see the story from the other perspective. Im Halo we got the Arbiter, in Marathon we just don't get to see what drives the Pfhor forward, what their struggles and beliefs are. We just get "They're religious zealots and slavers, now kill them all.".
At 7:50 S'pht glyphs are shown. Is it possible these glyphs have anything to do with the sandtrap glyphs? I'm probably wrong but they instantly reminded me of the sandtrap glyphs when i saw them
@@SameBasicRiff I love the old games. I love the lore. Bungie have themselves said the new game is a pvp shooter and have made it colourful as fk. So yes the remake will not be Marathon. It's another fortnite ripoff.
@@sgtsnokeem1139 ... Halo was made in the same way btw - to be colorful and cartoony more so then marathon - to have MP more so then marathon - so while I get your sentiment, you're really just being a fucking Karen right now. Let it come out first, let us have it first.
This franchise's scaling and in universe realism and time is so strange narratively. It's hard to pin down the power and capabilities of these civilizations and powers compared to Halo or Stellaris. It's extremely vague on the organization structure and worldbuilding. It would seem like the Pfhor would really be falling behind in ground and space combat when it comes to level of advancement and numbers and they all die out in a single failed campaign which makes you wonder how they were even able operate and reign as long as they did if they were this incapable. And then all of a sudden they a super weapon that can destroy a star cluster? What? That doesn't seem to add up relatively. The parameters and conditions and developments of this franchise's in game universe seem very strangely unreal to me. And this W'rkncacnter is apparently a creation level threat but it can't escape the pull of a star but can tank the destructive capacity and attack potency of a star cluster tier destroying super weapon? This series's rules and defined limitations are extremely weird and out of wrack. Atleast with Halo we understand the limits, capabilities, and powers of the factions and entities could possess in specific conditions of set right even when it comes to the Forerunners and Flood. But Merathon's setting is very strange and doesn't seem to have consistent parameters and limitations set to it's factions that are strictly and hard defined. It's ingame universe and set up seems flatly and incoherently established to me in those territories of writing a interesting world built on a set stable foundation and rules.
You know. I'd like them to make a full remake of the original games in modern graphics (as well as remaster the old graphics to modern, old graphics looks).
There is a remake coming..... But it's not a campaign shooter akin to the original. It's a colourful Fortnite ripoff and sadly I'm not joking. I'm actually angry at currant day Bungie for that.
I'm glad you enjoyed the terminals in Marathon 2 HiddenXperia. I absolutley love the writing in marathon 2, durandal is such a character XD If you enjoyed this theres a custom game/add on called "Marathon: Rubicon" that I highly recommend. If you want a Marathon Lore dump that expands on marathon infinity with tie ins to halo and previous bungie title pathways into darkness, then I recommend Marathon: Eternal. Edit: "Mindfuck" is exactly what I said outloud after I finally beat Marathon Infinity. Me: "well....that was a mindfuck"
I got into marathon over covid in which I got heavily in grossed in its lore. Really happy other people are getting on board now. Though I'm saddened by the art and gameplay direction the new installment is going in. I was hoping for either a retelling of the old games but with slightly updated gameplay(i.e jump function), or a sequel to infinity. Sad 😔
The Bungie of the mid 90's is not the Bungie of today. I'm actually annoyed they're using the IP again at all. Particularly for an extraction shooter. Yuck.
3:00 No, at the end of Marathon 1 the Marine is clearly seen teleported into an unknown location. Basically, Durandal snatched him at the last minute to use as a trump card if ever needed.
Hey Hidden, I have a request. I friend of mine wants to get into Halo lore, and I was hoping you could make a sort of broad overview of the essential lore for him. I would be eternally grateful if you could
*"You're in the fifth timeline"* sure overwhelmed me in MandaloreGaming's Marathon: Infinity vid. Really has that Groundhog Day, Steins;Gate, Puella Magi Madoka Magica, and Edge of Tomorrow feel too.
When you're a being of such intelligence and power as Durandal, are they really "delusions" of grandeur anymore? Yes he is extremely egotistical, but I'd say it's earned.
When you can actually pay the bills for what you claim. Then it's not a delusion. It's everyone else simply not willing to accept the fact that you are that powerful. And due to their inability to accept it, they assign to assume that you are the one who is delusional. At least until it is too late like in the case of durandal. Funny how that goes isn't it?
Not exactly a problem, since the Aleph One remakes of the trilogy and Pathways into Darkness are nice freeware. Look them up, and feel awe. Can't say the same for Myth I+II and Oni though. Now those deserve the Steam/GOG treatment.
I havent been so excited for a new HiddenX vid in a while since Halo Infinite has been so cold. Until the trailer and video he made on Marathon i didnt even know a game like this existed before my time so im super pumped for what it could be like.
Lost interest in the new Marathon game as soon as they said it was only a PvP game... no campaign, no story, no interactive lore... massive failure on what was one of Bungies legacy's and a disservice to the original's legacy. Can't wait to see the HEAVY monetization in customization.
Happy 7/7 aka Bungie day friendos!
It seems Durandal... Or Tycho, tried infecting the video with rampancy, apologies for the short corruption around 35s in!
thanks also your so cool you got me on halo and might take me off
thanks your so cool u got me on halo and might take me off
*28:30* Lol, good luck with that.
Look into Marathon _Apotheosis._
LOL Durandal is a CHAD
Bring support back to Halo Wars 2!
Fun fact: The Mural at 8:02 is thought to actually not be a S'pht, but rather our only glimpse at a Jjaro. The Jjaro made the S'pht in their image. I guess it could still be depicting a S'pht, but theres too many differences for me to think it is. Its robe is much larger, it has a light/eye on its head, while all S'pht heads are featureless, its machinery is much more elaborate and exposed compared to the small light the S'pht have in their chest.
Also, Durandal calling the Pfhor religion "pathetically boring" reminded me of the Floods thoughts on the Great Journey, "lies for the weak, beacons for the deluded."
Ohhhhh damn, I had no idea, I just assumed the mural was an artistic interpretation of a Compiler or, better yet, S'bhuth, that's cool!
@@HiddenXperia know this is a video a about Marathon but I got a question. I recently had the idea to read the Halo books to get more of the lore, and looked up how many there were, there’s 31. So I was wondering which ones I should read and in what order, sorry for bothering you, have a good day. P.S, I want to read the books because of that Infinite ending explanation, every time you say DLC 1 I die inside a little.
@@JamesJome123 Oh, tough question. But I'd probably say Fall of Reach and Ghost of Onyx, for two choices!
Maybe Cryptum or Primordium, too, later... but they are quite complex.
Contact Harvest also sets up the Covenant war, fairly well.
@@chrissonofpear1384 thank you
@@JamesJome123Will also recommend The Flood novel (2011 reissue alongside the aforementioned TFoR), First Strike (again, the 2011 reissue), The Cole Protocol, The Graphic Novel, the Uprising comics, the Helljumper comics, the Evolutions anthology (2010 reissue), the Blood Line comics, the Halo Wars: Genesis comics (which you can actually get and read for free and in pdf form, The Forerunner Saga - Silentium, Broken Circle, Shadow of Intent, and, if you can get it, Halsey's Journal.
Something I appreciate is how unique Bungie's alien designs have always looked and felt
You're not going to like what they've done with the Marathon remake then.
No campaign.
PvP shooter.
Colour everywhere.
Urgh.....
@@sgtsnokeem1139 PvPvE shooter. We see a Comiler in the trailer! also, these games had color everywhere too! Urgh...
@@jakespacepiratee3740 not colour that looks like that.
Still no single player campaign.
@@sgtsnokeem1139 dont have any friends to play with? ;)
@@jakespacepiratee3740 yup. We play good coop games. Not tarkov ripoffs.
Did they make the System Shock remake an mmo? No
Was Doom Eternal made into a JRPG? No
Was the new Monkey Island made into a fortnite clone? No
Is Helldivers 2 being made into a survival horror? No.
Marathon without a dedicated single player campaign mode isn't marathon.
You would know if you played em kid.
This makes me realize that the original plans for Halo 2 (and more than likely 3) were going to mirror the approach taken with Marathon’s trilogy.
I'm currently sick so after I watch this I'm bingeing your flood content again
get well soon m8!
@HiddenXperia thanks. I've been a long time follower (this is a new-ish account) so hope you're doing well
Let me know when you start making a proto-gravemind
HE'S INFECTED!
All his monument are belong to sins
Man, I've watched all your halo lore videos and loved every single one of them. I've always wanted to get into marathon, and can I just say I am SO happy you are covering these, your story telling is unlike anyone else's. Thank you so much
He does get allot of things wrong though. So take everything with a grain of salt.
The epitaph that Durandal wrote for Tycho, is "Fatum Iustum Stultorum", which translates roughly to "The just fate of all fools".
Because Durandal is petty like that, and we love him for it
Never in a million years would I expect Marathon to get so much attention again, thanks for making these videos
Well, I mean it is not that surprising considering the new Marathon game coming out
@@mattiasfaust2746 I didn't expect that either, I thought bungie was just going to do Destiny till the end of time
Dude, these were games I only knew about from videos and stuff… but these are really getting me pumped for the return, and this old school Bungie writing, hook it to my veins
Excited to see how he handles Marathon infinity
Just about finished my script for the Infinity video tonight, and I gotta say, it is JUICY
@HiddenXperia I better see some tinfoil hat time-line diagrams.
Also... Gherrit White
And the Kill Your Television's Terminal
After you finish going through marathon lore, you should do a theory video breaking down the new trailer!
Wish the trailer had more lore in it. Best I can track is that you play as synths on Tau Ceti.
@@JamesTDG People shouldn't get their hopes up. It's an extraction shooter using Marathon as a skin. I'm sure they'll put some stuff in but at the end of the day this isn't a new Marathon from the team that made Marathon, it's a game from whatever you can call Bungie these days and they're very money hungry.
Nice to see another upload by HiddenXperia, never played Marathon so it's nice to learn about it like this.
Can't wait for the Marathon Infinity video! For those of you watching at home, a few college philosophy courses might come in handy to understand what the everloving hell is going on with that sequence of events.
I love the fact that my birthday is on Bungie Day, since there’s always something to look forward to. This year it’s a MCC modding Update (News post), RvB Restoration and HiddenXperia‘s Marathon 2 Video!
Also, MandaloreGaming doing a review of Myth: The Fallen Lords.
Can't wait for the end of the trillogy, yet at the same time, the lore dump ending saddens me, this felt crazy as fuck and I hope Bungie succeeds in reviving Marathon so we can see this trilogy get the HD remaster it deserves.
I'm so glad he's coming out with marathon lore videos. I've never really heard of it till bungie announced the game recently so this lore dump is very helpful
I REALLY hope we get some kind of interaction with one of the three AIs in the new Marathon game!
I'm loving these marathon lore videos! They're so intriguing and kick ass!
Ah, yes. The entry with the best Menu theme in 90’s shooters.
Dualing sawed-off shotguns were beautifully overpowered in this game!
The name of the ship in the expanse is quite similar… the Rocinante…
Rozinante …
I wonder if it’s a silly coincidence or if the writer of the expanse was a fan of Marathon haha
You and MandaloreGaming sure are attuned to good old Bungie lately, HiddenXperia.
4:37 and especially at 6:53: Gianni Matragrano made a priceless voiceover of this in the Marathon 2 review by MandaloreGaming, believe me.
I was kinda hoping he used the mandy videos as research material 😂
Amazing synopsis, my friend. This is easily one of my favorite games of all time…maybe I’m a bit biased though. My cousin Alexander was bungie’s cofounder, so he gave us all of the earlier bungie games like pathways, myth, and marathon. To me, they’re absolutely timeless games. Keep up the great content man!
Alexander Seropian is your cousin? I met him once at a Bungie event after a Macworld convention when I wasn't even a teenager yet. I always wondered how he got on after he left Bungie, I know he founded another company but considering the kind of stature he probably should have in the gaming world it's a little strange that he doesn't really have a presence. Marathon and Myth were the definitive games of my youth. The commitment to not just telling great stories, but absolutely timeless stories is really what set them apart from what everyone else was doing at the time.
Feel's a shame what he started has become what it's turned into but as people leave and time moves on so does the culture of a company.
@@estefencosta1835 yea he’s my cousin. He left sometime in 03’ during the genesis of halo 2. I do agree, it is pretty impressive that he’s been able to stay out of the spotlight all these years later; however, I’m extremely happy for him that he gets to live a pretty normal life, given all that he’s done for the gaming community. He went on to lesser known companies that were great, but just never gained the traction and/or notoriety that bungie did. He’s doing great though, it appears like he even has a little podcast going on now. I speak with him on Instagram once or twice a month maybe. I live in North Carolina, so he lives pretty far away from all of us
@@estefencosta1835yeah it was interesting, I was really young - like 7 or so. But I remember whenever he left bungie…it was around the infancy stages of halo 2’s production. Sometimes I wonder what it would have been like for him to have stayed, but, he definitely has zero regrets in regards to leaving. Personally, my immediate family believes he enjoys the anonymity, all while being financially secure and overall just enjoying his life with his family. Unfortunately, I don’t get to see him as much these days since I live all the way in North Carolina, but on some holidays occasionally I get to see him. If you met him in person, you’d think he’s just some normal guy. Great man
@@estefencosta1835also, I see that my original comment from months ago somehow never posted? Or it got deleted…not sure. So, sorry about the late response!
Awesome videos! I now have no reason to not get into Marathon's lore; these videos make it super digestible for catching up! lol Also, I remade Waterloo Waterpark in Halo Infinite as a little tribute to Bungie😎 Happy Bungie Day!
Yes Really enjoying this marathon content, hyped for the new one
I just recently watched Mandalore Gaming’s video on Marathon Infinity…
Dear god, “mind fuck” doesn’t even begin to cover it.
Can’t wait to see the final video
Call me biased but I think I do a really good job of explaining it. In my head the timeline(s) of Infinity actually slot together quite easily, hopefully I can translate that over into the video!
Well, will ready the amnestics in case the Steins;Gate worldlines/Groundhog Day timeloops/rampant Multiverse Theory karkstorm makes us mad.
😆👍 Finalmente estou entendendo a história da trilogia Marathons, 30 anos depois! Obrigado! Um abraço do Brasil!
I can never understand why there even have an AI for doors.
Also the whole concept of AI rampancy itself only make sense if the AI actually adapt and advance to the extent they actually are allowed to think that far.
The concept of rampancy also reflects on humans a lot, especially when a human's conception of the world is broken down with an incident that actually causes the human mind to rethink the principles it uses to understand it's common reality.
After hearing that the story only gets deeper with M2, I just had to get the trilogy and play them myself. Loving it so far.
Heck yeah, been waiting for this video to come out
Recently finished Marathon 1 and 2 and working on Infinity. Can't wait for the Infinity video
I love how you explain everywhere
I cant wait for Infinity's story. Awesome vid btw
Good luck explaing Infinity man.
Good to see you biting into something good and sharing it. Never knew of this and im so glad you are shining the light it should have. Good story. Thank you.
Just saw your first Marathon video today, and now I get to watch this!!! Today is a good day :)
Seeing this video come out today is the cherry on top after finally getting more Digsite news for MCC. HAPPY BUNGIE DAY, EVERYONE! :D
Im excited for the marathon reboot, but i hope they bring back the old tactical military Aesthetic of the old games, along side the cyber punk like look of this new game. Bungie art is always on point in ways of combining fantasy with tactical military so i got hope in them. Still they're doing better than 343, shame both companies are equally greedy.
I would say Marathon 1 looks like you would imagine a run down colony ship in an asteroid would look like. The pfhor stuff in 1 is actually kind of biologically active in ways. Biomechanics is a big part of the Pfhor and cybernetic life forms are throughout the story. So the biomechanical stuff in the trailer certainly sticks. And the cyborg armour they showed also looks good imo.
It's funny how a precursor franchise is going to become a Halo's successor.
Well that's easy when you got 343 as a dev studio they do doo
good video! looking forward to the next one!
10:07 "If you lay down arms, which... of course we don't, it's a Bungie game!"
Myth the fallen Lords: *CASULTIES*
...And then you take a look at what happened and one of your dwarfs threw a bomb into your own group of units, because there was one enemy and for some reason they didn't scatter, but the Dwarf did *"Never Forget" intensifies*
This comment sure is more meaningful with MandaloreGaming's review of that game. Gods, when is it and its sequel gonna get the Steam/GOG resurrection treatment?
Yo. Its been 2 weeks and there's been no update! SADGE. Thanks for the awesome videos. Please keep them coming when you can. Don't push yourself.
I just realized my Destiny 2 Warlock main has "S'phtish Robes" that have a similar design to the S'pht. Fantastic, lol
Oh - and if you've ever watched the Expanse series, you'll recognize the name "Rozinante" in the ship "Rocinante" - the main ship of the series.
YES! This was my favorite marathon game! Love the story!
The one problem I have with the old lore is that Halo did a certain aspect better. I already know what it's like to be human, I want to see the story from the other perspective. Im Halo we got the Arbiter, in Marathon we just don't get to see what drives the Pfhor forward, what their struggles and beliefs are. We just get "They're religious zealots and slavers, now kill them all.".
At 7:50 S'pht glyphs are shown. Is it possible these glyphs have anything to do with the sandtrap glyphs? I'm probably wrong but they instantly reminded me of the sandtrap glyphs when i saw them
this lore is sooo deep and nerdy, I love it!!
The remake will ruin it.
It's a pvp shooter.
@@sgtsnokeem1139 ...
@@SameBasicRiff I love the old games. I love the lore.
Bungie have themselves said the new game is a pvp shooter and have made it colourful as fk.
So yes the remake will not be Marathon. It's another fortnite ripoff.
@@sgtsnokeem1139 ...
Halo was made in the same way btw - to be colorful and cartoony more so then marathon - to have MP more so then marathon - so while I get your sentiment, you're really just being a fucking Karen right now. Let it come out first, let us have it first.
@@sgtsnokeem1139 Fortnight is a BR, marathons an extraction pvp, you need to understand the thing your hating atleast
really liked this lore explanation video. looking forward to the next one. you do one helluva job!!
Good luck with Infinity 😅
Awesome video btw lol
21:40
"well $#!& he's back. let's go."
Hidden, please make this a series. Lore about fallout, elder scrolls, etc.
Crazy how halo and marathon have pretty much the exact same story. And the fact that I will happily play bith
Eagerly awaiting the Infinity video that's gonna be twice as long as the others lol.
I dig these lore videos. I will probably play the game when it is released because how cool the lore sounds
"Take me back."
Bro, you were probably born the same year this game was released.
"it's 7/7 july 7."
*7 months ago*
"perfection"
Durandal... Door Handle...
I can’t wait to see hiddenxperia lobotomise himself trying to explain marathon infinity’s story
I hope that the new Marathon is just a dystopian continuation of the old games in terms of lore..
This franchise's scaling and in universe realism and time is so strange narratively. It's hard to pin down the power and capabilities of these civilizations and powers compared to Halo or Stellaris. It's extremely vague on the organization structure and worldbuilding. It would seem like the Pfhor would really be falling behind in ground and space combat when it comes to level of advancement and numbers and they all die out in a single failed campaign which makes you wonder how they were even able operate and reign as long as they did if they were this incapable. And then all of a sudden they a super weapon that can destroy a star cluster? What? That doesn't seem to add up relatively.
The parameters and conditions and developments of this franchise's in game universe seem very strangely unreal to me.
And this W'rkncacnter is apparently a creation level threat but it can't escape the pull of a star but can tank the destructive capacity and attack potency of a star cluster tier destroying super weapon? This series's rules and defined limitations are extremely weird and out of wrack.
Atleast with Halo we understand the limits, capabilities, and powers of the factions and entities could possess in specific conditions of set right even when it comes to the Forerunners and Flood. But Merathon's setting is very strange and doesn't seem to have consistent parameters and limitations set to it's factions that are strictly and hard defined.
It's ingame universe and set up seems flatly and incoherently established to me in those territories of writing a interesting world built on a set stable foundation and rules.
After watching Mandalore's Videos on the games, Durandal is for now on voiced by Gianni
With the issues of modern halo, im glad we atleast are getting marathon stuff and have some decent destiny content
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i just realized that durandal was etching an insult onto the planet ROFL
Good luck explaining Marathon Infinity.
Can't wait for your infinity video
Excited for the- as you so eloquently put it, mind fuck of Marathon Infinity
When is the Halo Cookbook lore video coming out?
Durandal is Mendicant Bias, Leeya was Bungie Cortana and Tyco is 343 Cortana.
Absolutly Perfect worked Out! ☺
You know. I'd like them to make a full remake of the original games in modern graphics (as well as remaster the old graphics to modern, old graphics looks).
There is a remake coming.....
But it's not a campaign shooter akin to the original.
It's a colourful Fortnite ripoff and sadly I'm not joking.
I'm actually angry at currant day Bungie for that.
@@sgtsnokeem1139...You know, I've a lot of raging comments from you here, and BELIEVE ME, TONE. IT. *DOWN!!!*
@@michaelandreipalon359 why?
@@sgtsnokeem1139 Holy shit you have been lurking in like a thousand reply’s sections, I thought those were different people lmao
@@basic6735 and?
" Elite at this sh!t since Marathon. Ten f*cking years, killin' you where you spawn. " ( If you know where it's from, you know. )
I'm glad you enjoyed the terminals in Marathon 2 HiddenXperia. I absolutley love the writing in marathon 2, durandal is such a character XD
If you enjoyed this theres a custom game/add on called "Marathon: Rubicon" that I highly recommend.
If you want a Marathon Lore dump that expands on marathon infinity with tie ins to halo and previous bungie title pathways into darkness, then I recommend Marathon: Eternal.
Edit: "Mindfuck" is exactly what I said outloud after I finally beat Marathon Infinity.
Me: "well....that was a mindfuck"
I got into marathon over covid in which I got heavily in grossed in its lore. Really happy other people are getting on board now. Though I'm saddened by the art and gameplay direction the new installment is going in. I was hoping for either a retelling of the old games but with slightly updated gameplay(i.e jump function), or a sequel to infinity. Sad 😔
The Bungie of the mid 90's is not the Bungie of today. I'm actually annoyed they're using the IP again at all. Particularly for an extraction shooter. Yuck.
@@estefencosta1835 yep, should be a story driven FPS
God I love these videos. I'm not a fan of Marathon (yet) but maybe, thanks to you mate, I will be
3:00 No, at the end of Marathon 1 the Marine is clearly seen teleported into an unknown location. Basically, Durandal snatched him at the last minute to use as a trump card if ever needed.
23:53 Knack is back bby!
Hey Hidden, I have a request. I friend of mine wants to get into Halo lore, and I was hoping you could make a sort of broad overview of the essential lore for him. I would be eternally grateful if you could
The bungie games and possibly contact harvest/the fall of reach. Anything else is pretty much garbage with a couple exceptions.
Marathon Infinity is a whole mess with at least four separate timelines concurrently that you continually hop through. Good luck
*"You're in the fifth timeline"* sure overwhelmed me in MandaloreGaming's Marathon: Infinity vid. Really has that Groundhog Day, Steins;Gate, Puella Magi Madoka Magica, and Edge of Tomorrow feel too.
If Marathon 2 dialed up the story to eleven then I have no idea how you would describe 3's story
Bro was droppin Bara at the beginning
This is literally the only game ever made I like as much, if not more, than Halo 3
It’s not really known whether the Jjaro were a race or whether it was an individual.
This story is so interesting
When you're a being of such intelligence and power as Durandal, are they really "delusions" of grandeur anymore? Yes he is extremely egotistical, but I'd say it's earned.
When you can actually pay the bills for what you claim. Then it's not a delusion. It's everyone else simply not willing to accept the fact that you are that powerful. And due to their inability to accept it, they assign to assume that you are the one who is delusional. At least until it is too late like in the case of durandal. Funny how that goes isn't it?
Very interesting story. I wish these games were on Steam
Not exactly a problem, since the Aleph One remakes of the trilogy and Pathways into Darkness are nice freeware. Look them up, and feel awe.
Can't say the same for Myth I+II and Oni though. Now those deserve the Steam/GOG treatment.
Well, Marathon 1 is on Steam right now.
Hey hidden Xperia, whats you opinion on installation 00 infinte dlc campaign ideas
BEST OST 1996 CONFIRMED
I always thought marathon was a prequel to halo.
Fridays are hidden Xperia's day 🥵
I havent been so excited for a new HiddenX vid in a while since Halo Infinite has been so cold. Until the trailer and video he made on Marathon i didnt even know a game like this existed before my time so im super pumped for what it could be like.
Why did I misread the title as _The Dumb and Sexy Lore of Marathon 2_ ?
@hiddenXperia would you be willing to play the marathon games on the channel
So basically Halo 2 is this, but rewritten.
Tyco? Rocinante?
Has there always been Marathon references in The Expanse or is it just a coincidence?
Tycho and Rocinante exist outside of Marathon lol
Tycho is the name of a crater on the Moon, named for Tycho Brahe. Rocinante is a Don Quixote reference
@badbeardbill9956 aye I know that, its literally explained in the expanse... I was asking if there was a direct link or if it was a coincidence...
Lost interest in the new Marathon game as soon as they said it was only a PvP game... no campaign, no story, no interactive lore... massive failure on what was one of Bungies legacy's and a disservice to the original's legacy. Can't wait to see the HEAVY monetization in customization.
fucking amazing man
Rocinate
War Horse.
I like it.
FOR THE BELT!
“He teleports the marine aboard the crippled boomer,”
So many 90s teenager memories coming back.
bungie day wooo! marathon 4 evah! yippie! wahoo!