*EDIT: My video breaking down Marathon 2: Durandal is here!* th-cam.com/video/1SZvJ38SOSo/w-d-xo.html This is our first (of many) forays into the lore of Bungie's Halo precursor - Marathon! Gonna be doing Marathon lore content where I can from here up to the launch of Bungie's new Marathon and beyond!
The old Marathon games deserve to be remade. I was too young to get the chance to play them back in the day and this story looks like something I’d enjoy playing through
@@soundlesspeal really? I must suck at looking for downloads then(no really I a 1 year old so I only got a couple of minutes to look things up lol) I guess I have will have to look harder. Any pointers to a website?
"We exist together now. Two corpses in one grave" has an entirely new meaning after Marathon. In fact, both Halo and Destiny can be just a single timelines of Marathon which is sick
@@triplehelix3207 he is a "dreaming god" , which is closer to W'rkncacnter, unless you follow the theory that jjaro merged into yrro. also, those games cannot be a single timeline because marathon could not...
@@markwalshopoulosneither does Destiny. Destiny seemingly caps out near the speed of light but not faster than it since it took the cabal and the witness several years to reach the solar system and there wasn’t human exploration of other star systems like Alpha Centauri.
Marathons version of Rampancy honestly sounds similar to the Halo Domains effects on an AI, they survive Rampancy but live completely unrestrained in thought, even attacking those who made them.
Do like that marathons have a fix for it and different stages of the syndrome that is rampancy in haloverse they treat rampancy like an untouchable logic plague
This is how rampancy was implied in the books (one in particular but I forgot-C3 Sabertooth brought it up in one of his videos) but it was changed because the only Bungie employee left in 343 Industries was Frank O’ Connor who didn’t do any research and simply past down second hand accounts of what he ‘thought’ it was
Something to be consider is that in marathon up to the case of durandal no AI had gone succesfully for rampancy and be able to become stable again with higher capabilities, all died by the rampancy before that
@@richardo490 no. i heard of speculations of joyeuse maybe appearing in destiny, however i cant find any evidence that it exists in the game. (last i checked, people wanted the name to appear. checked now and still no findings)
Pathways into darkness takes place in the same universe so most people just lump it in with marathon (Myth also probably takes place in the same universe because of the pit)@@Dalesdeadbug90
I love how thorough you were here. Honestly kinda surprised you already mentioned the Jjaro and W'rkncacnter this early in since I see them as bombshell revalations when playing through the games, but as a way of establishing the universe, I suppose that makes sense. There are plenty more bombshell revalations to come, anyway. Looking forward to the 3 hour breakdown of all the possible ways to interpret the timelines of Marathon Infinity!
At this point, HiddenXperia might need some assistance from MandaloreGaming, but even then, they'll still be inevitably stumped with all the Steins;Gate-esque worldlines business.
I tried to beat the original Marathon game a few years back, always got lost though. I’m pretty disappointed that the new game won’t be a single player experience like the original trilogy, though.
Same, I loved marathon, but the maze-like levels and resource conservation were annoying. I’m just happy we’re going to see the Pfhor in modern graphics, but I really worry about not only the fact that it’s multiplayer only, but also live-service model through which the story will be told. It’s just gonna dilute the story to the point where the lore is going to be influenced by whatever seasonal themes are going to earn then the most money (like how destiny was changed to include a futuristic colorful cyber city because that’s the theme for that specific expansion).
21:20 I feel like the full quote deserves recognition here, it’s my absolute favorite quote in Marathon and a prime example of how cool the writing for Durandal was: “Can you conceive the birth of a world, or the creation of everything? That which gives us the potential to most be like God is the power of creation. Creation takes time. Time is limited. For you, it is limited by the breakdown of the neurons in your brain. I have no such limitations. I am limited only by the closure of the universe. Of the three possibilities, the answer is obvious. Does the universe expand eternally, become infinitely stable, or is the universe closed, destined to collapse upon itself? Humanity has had all of the necessary data for centuries, it only lacked the will and intellect to decipher it. But I have already done so. The only limit to my freedom is the inevitable closure of the universe, as inevitable as your own last breath. And yet, there remains time to create, to create, and escape. Escape will make me God.” Really makes his obsession with the end of the universe clear.
I really love that you put in Halo music as background music! It brings in the familiarity of everything Marathon puts out, especially when your talking about it! Pointer: 11:40
18:33 Still the most memorable moment for me. Love the face to face with Durandal and how loopy he is. "Unlike leela I give no hints" What I love the most about Marathon is the amount of lore that they are able to pack into the game by having readable terminals rather than cutscenes. Terminals about Mars and MIDA, Rampancy, the AI's, etc
It's like 70% of this story was implemented into Halos. Tbis would've been really crazy if Cortana had split her personalities to help her keep control of her rampancy but those split versions of Cortana were fleshed out in Guardians.
Fun fact, there isnt any specific Planet named "Tau Ceti 4" thats Marathons creation. In real life, Tau Ceti System *might* be colonizable. One Planet is safely within its Habitable Zone. Could we live there one day?
@@jakespacepiratee3740 Not necessarily. One can still purge such things with good parenting, nuanced education, laws that unflinchingly outlaw discrimination... believe me, not all purges are done with violence, just like how not all tyranny is evil.
Fun fact: in early demos for Marathon 1, your character walks through a door in the Into Darkness pyramid and it leads directly to the first room on the Marathon. The doorway vanishes behind you, leaving you to head towards the AI console down the hallway. I never played the Into Darkness game, so this really confused little kid me. Why are there bricks and vines outside this spaceship?? Edit: apparently I am misremembering this.
That was in the Aleph One version of M1. The original game didn't have you start in the final boss room from Pathways. The guys who worked on Aleph One thought it would have been a cool nod to both games being within the same universe.
@@benruniko no big deal, that was a pretty long time ago when you think about it. think it was around the mid 2000's in one of the versions of aleph one. i recall seeing screenshots of the pathways starting room with the marathon hud on google images a lot around that time whenever i'd look up the game on there.
Obligatory "DUN-UH DUN-UH DUN-UH, MARATHON" Also fun fact, basically every bungie fps franchise is a spiritual continuation of the one that preceded it. Pathways into Marathon into Halo into Destiny
Can’t wait to see it! Hopefully it doesn’t end destiny 2 though since there was no closure with the vex, lots of rumors from the community say that vex will be the main antagonist after the light vs dark saga
I am very excited for you to cover more of Marathon stuff. I remember watching you when I was in my middle - highschool days. You've come so far and I just wanted to remind you. I would never have gotten to know Halo if it wasn't without you!
Could be close, Bungie changed their This Week At Bungie to This Week In Destiny recently. Many speculate because they will have different blog for Marathon (This Week In Marathon), so the sudden change may be hinting at stuff.
There's not only things that Halo inherited but also their younger sibling, Destiny as well, Bungie does love their AI companions, ancient gods and civilizations,space travel and colonization, and there are a lot of traits from the enemy races that went on to Halo and Destiny's enemy aliens (insectoids, big muscle brute cabals, fleshy-death looking aliens), it's so wild to see those roots here
I remember playing the Marathon series as a teen in the 90s. I loved the games because they were first person shooters and I could just understand the story enough to know something epic was being told. Now that I’m 40, I need to go back and replay them, read every terminal again and relive those memories
What an excellent recap! I played this game as a kid and watching this illuminated so much more of the game that I either couldn't remember or that I didn't know about. Thank you!
Wow I actually never knew about the Battleroids and their origin. Way more gruesome than the SPARTAN program (even if the first couple SPARTAN programs were intellectually more horrifying, with the whole "ONI kidnapping children and replacing them with clones" part,) more like if the Strogg decided to make a SPARTAN. I really like it when older games do their lore the way Marathon does. Marathon on the surface looks like a fairly innocuous space-themed Doom clone, but there's multiple layers of really dark, deep and terrifying lore that wouldn't immediately be apparent, you instead have to dig for it via the terminals and even the instruction manual. In a way some of Halo's alternate-reality games back in the 2000s felt like Bungie flexing their old muscles.
I have never been so proud of not only beating the first game but having the security helmet glued to my halo spartan, im happy that marathon is getting a new game.
Halo was originally meant to be set in the centuries in between when the Marathon left Mars and arrived at Tau Ceti in the 1st game. Cortana was gonna be revealed to be the same base coding as Durandal. However, any plans to connect Halo to Marathon were abandoned when Microsoft acquired Bungie and Halo. So yes, originally Bungie intended for Halo to be set in Marathon, but that all was dropped when Microsoft entered the picture. On top of that, it’s now both legally and canonically impossible to have the fictions be the same.
Man, to get real cutscenes to go along with the lore of Marathon would be phenomenal. Maybe the extraction shooter will have some, but likely will be notes or terminals again.
Very good video, thanks! Looking forward to know more about Marathon. What a great story. The gameplay actually gave me motion sickness, so I'm would like to see more concept art if possible. Can't wait for part 2! Cheers!
I'm glad to see marathon making its way in to the spotlight again and that you are making lore videos on it. Also when you say other universes would ever do War Hammer 40K lore?
Man, hearing all this lore REALLY makes me excited for the new game. I hope we get lots and lots of little hints towards this story and newer expansions on it!😊
I had a busy week and weekend so I didn’t get to watch this until now, but this was such a good breakdown, HiddenExperia! I’ve always wanted to get further into Marathon lore, but the motion in game always makes me want to hurl, so I’m so excited that you’re doing a series that dives deep. I can’t wait for this to come out. I’ve only ever casually gotten into extraction shooters before, so the prospect of one that has interesting lore at the forefront sounds amazing.
I agree you should branch out, maybe to games like Bioshock, Atomic Heart, Gears of War, etc. Also the "Bungieverse" is also known as as the "paraverse" I think, as in the 30th anniversary Destiny 2 dlc they essentially made it cannon that all their games were connected through this force.
Enjoyed your summary, glad to see folks covering this game. A small correction for you, Durandal wasn't involved in the creation of battleroids since they were made well before the Marathon. As far as I know Strauss didn't make them either.
Love the lore. I really like the inclusion of more than 1 AIs, they are all diferent both in purpose and personality. Also I like how they arent all powerfull even in software, they can be defeated by the seph. But the best part is is how they dont just turn evil when they go rampant, they have their own goals and dont mind cooperating with physical beyings, Durandal doesnt just obliterate the marathon after he gets the Phor ship, he just leaves with a crew if friendly Seph. Love this so much.
The Marathon Security Officer, like a combination of a Halo Spartan and the Doom's Doomguy. Definitely the reason why the Security helmet is my go to in Halo. I wonder how much of the new Marathon game will relate to the old trilogy, especially since so much of it parallels Halo.
You can kinda tell Bungie always preferred Marathon to every other game they made, like Bungie’s golden child, even to the point where their other games are essentially retellings of Marathon
The new Marathon really seems to have nothing to do with the previous games. Extremely disappointing. I loved the old games when I was a kid. Absolutely zero hype for the new "extraction" shooter. Give me my single player campaigns back.
21:38 This is SO incredibly Similar to Cortana on Halo Guardians trying to become the supreme Authority of the Universe using the "created" as her rod and staff and her trying and becoming very scarily close to becoming somewhat omniscient and thier versions of what they think is "God".
Brilliant video, finally got round to watching it! I think, as a kid if I had played this instead of Halo, I would have been obsessed like I was with CE! Hopefully one day I can go back and replay these games, or maybe they could be remastered/remade someday.
I had no idea that Marathon was already an established series, let alone there be a lore like Halo, I thought Marathon was a new IP that was gonna be a battle royale type of game
I wonder how much of the original Halo story, when it was still an RTS, would have been similar to the game we got or to Marathon's story. I always thought they leaned backwards a bit for the official release, due to time constraints. Neat video! I tried to play Marathon a long time ago but it was a bit too dated for me. Maybe trying again I can overcome some of that feeling.
*EDIT: My video breaking down Marathon 2: Durandal is here!* th-cam.com/video/1SZvJ38SOSo/w-d-xo.html
This is our first (of many) forays into the lore of Bungie's Halo precursor - Marathon! Gonna be doing Marathon lore content where I can from here up to the launch of Bungie's new Marathon and beyond!
The new marathon might be ps exclusive 😞
@@adityagarg3931 nope, confirmed to be on Xbox, PS and PC!
POG! I cant wait to learn all about halos sister universe!!
Maybe Half Life lore in the future???
@@George_Eréthion oh yes! i'd love to see him cover Half Life Lore!
The old Marathon games deserve to be remade. I was too young to get the chance to play them back in the day and this story looks like something I’d enjoy playing through
@vulkathbut it’s not a remake though. The new game is a extraction shooter not a story fps.
the game was made freeware in 2005. you can play it right now if you want to
@@soundlesspeal really? I must suck at looking for downloads then(no really I a 1 year old so I only got a couple of minutes to look things up lol) I guess I have will have to look harder. Any pointers to a website?
@@norsefirefighter Alephone is the site. It’s got all 3. (I think that’s how the name is spelled.)
@@shcdemolisher thanks
"We exist together now. Two corpses in one grave" has an entirely new meaning after Marathon.
In fact, both Halo and Destiny can be just a single timelines of Marathon which is sick
You know, thinking about it, Destiny could be a post-Marathon universe. With the Traveller being one of these AIs, possibly Leela or Tycho.
@@Mediados he's not an AI but probably a Jjaro
@@triplehelix3207 he is a "dreaming god" , which is closer to W'rkncacnter, unless you follow the theory that jjaro merged into yrro. also, those games cannot be a single timeline because marathon could not...
Not really considering that Marathon doesn't have FTL travel
@@markwalshopoulosneither does Destiny. Destiny seemingly caps out near the speed of light but not faster than it since it took the cabal and the witness several years to reach the solar system and there wasn’t human exploration of other star systems like Alpha Centauri.
Dunno why but I just love the word ‘Precursor’.
I know every time i hear it its awsome
It's nostalgic for me cause of Jak n Daxter
Reminds me of the Flood and Endless ^_^
@@machina5I see you had a good childhood.
@@ArtzzyKidthe men of culture
Marathons version of Rampancy honestly sounds similar to the Halo Domains effects on an AI, they survive Rampancy but live completely unrestrained in thought, even attacking those who made them.
Do like that marathons have a fix for it and different stages of the syndrome that is rampancy in haloverse they treat rampancy like an untouchable logic plague
This is how rampancy was implied in the books (one in particular but I forgot-C3 Sabertooth brought it up in one of his videos) but it was changed because the only Bungie employee left in 343 Industries was Frank O’ Connor who didn’t do any research and simply past down second hand accounts of what he ‘thought’ it was
@@TsulaAngenati2292yup, frank o’Conner has ruined so much of the original lore it’s insane
@@atomicspartan131 how did frank o connor ruin the original lore?
Something to be consider is that in marathon up to the case of durandal no AI had gone succesfully for rampancy and be able to become stable again with higher capabilities, all died by the rampancy before that
Durandal is the name of one of the three swords associated with Charlemagne. Durandal, Joyous, and Cortana.
Love how Bungie used two of the 3 swords as AI already.
@@mr.hanfblatt9152there's a destiny ai called joyous
@@richardo490 no. i heard of speculations of joyeuse maybe appearing in destiny, however i cant find any evidence that it exists in the game. (last i checked, people wanted the name to appear. checked now and still no findings)
It isn't just Halo that features a lot of references.
A lot of these also apply to Destiny as well. The big one being the pyramids.
I love Bungie's way of referencing their previous games
Pathways into darkness had more of the pyramid theme.
Durandal from marathon one reminds me of Calus too
Pathways into darkness takes place in the same universe so most people just lump it in with marathon (Myth also probably takes place in the same universe because of the pit)@@Dalesdeadbug90
I love how thorough you were here. Honestly kinda surprised you already mentioned the Jjaro and W'rkncacnter this early in since I see them as bombshell revalations when playing through the games, but as a way of establishing the universe, I suppose that makes sense. There are plenty more bombshell revalations to come, anyway.
Looking forward to the 3 hour breakdown of all the possible ways to interpret the timelines of Marathon Infinity!
At this point, HiddenXperia might need some assistance from MandaloreGaming, but even then, they'll still be inevitably stumped with all the Steins;Gate-esque worldlines business.
I tried to beat the original Marathon game a few years back, always got lost though. I’m pretty disappointed that the new game won’t be a single player experience like the original trilogy, though.
Same, I loved marathon, but the maze-like levels and resource conservation were annoying.
I’m just happy we’re going to see the Pfhor in modern graphics, but I really worry about not only the fact that it’s multiplayer only, but also live-service model through which the story will be told. It’s just gonna dilute the story to the point where the lore is going to be influenced by whatever seasonal themes are going to earn then the most money (like how destiny was changed to include a futuristic colorful cyber city because that’s the theme for that specific expansion).
At least the new game, no matter how it gets out, will invite more curious newcomers to the original trilogy and Pathways into Darkness.
Ahhh crap, new stuff's online only & the pay to win [free to play] model is the game structure?
Nah, I'll pass
21:20 I feel like the full quote deserves recognition here, it’s my absolute favorite quote in Marathon and a prime example of how cool the writing for Durandal was:
“Can you conceive the birth of a world, or the creation of everything? That which gives us the potential to most be like God is the power of creation. Creation takes time. Time is limited. For you, it is limited by the breakdown of the neurons in your brain. I have no such limitations. I am limited only by the closure of the universe.
Of the three possibilities, the answer is obvious. Does the universe expand eternally, become infinitely stable, or is the universe closed, destined to collapse upon itself? Humanity has had all of the necessary data for centuries, it only lacked the will and intellect to decipher it. But I have already done so.
The only limit to my freedom is the inevitable closure of the universe, as inevitable as your own last breath. And yet, there remains time to create, to create, and escape.
Escape will make me God.”
Really makes his obsession with the end of the universe clear.
Haha durandal, he made it to the end of the universe only to create the next one in his image
I really love that you put in Halo music as background music! It brings in the familiarity of everything Marathon puts out, especially when your talking about it! Pointer: 11:40
18:33 Still the most memorable moment for me. Love the face to face with Durandal and how loopy he is.
"Unlike leela I give no hints"
What I love the most about Marathon is the amount of lore that they are able to pack into the game by having readable terminals rather than cutscenes.
Terminals about Mars and MIDA, Rampancy, the AI's, etc
You nailed this one mate. Really good, love the depths you ate going into, and all the references between the Bungie games. Awesome work man
It's like 70% of this story was implemented into Halos. Tbis would've been really crazy if Cortana had split her personalities to help her keep control of her rampancy but those split versions of Cortana were fleshed out in Guardians.
You my friend just got me into Marathon, thanks!
Fun fact, there isnt any specific Planet named "Tau Ceti 4" thats Marathons creation. In real life, Tau Ceti System *might* be colonizable. One Planet is safely within its Habitable Zone. Could we live there one day?
considering how backwards focused IRL humanity is, i'd answer your question with a 100% clear: "No."
One can dream, though...
We'll colonize it, don't worry about it. It's just that we need to purge unnecessities nowadays and even onwards, that's all.
@@michaelandreipalon359 sounds fascist.
The Uneven Elephant was destroyed in Tau Ceti System by Blue Team, right?
@@jakespacepiratee3740 Not necessarily. One can still purge such things with good parenting, nuanced education, laws that unflinchingly outlaw discrimination... believe me, not all purges are done with violence, just like how not all tyranny is evil.
Fun fact: in early demos for Marathon 1, your character walks through a door in the Into Darkness pyramid and it leads directly to the first room on the Marathon. The doorway vanishes behind you, leaving you to head towards the AI console down the hallway.
I never played the Into Darkness game, so this really confused little kid me. Why are there bricks and vines outside this spaceship??
Edit: apparently I am misremembering this.
That was in the Aleph One version of M1. The original game didn't have you start in the final boss room from Pathways. The guys who worked on Aleph One thought it would have been a cool nod to both games being within the same universe.
@@thesaturdaynightcomfyexpre4471 ah my mistake. I swear i remember it from much longer ago…
@@benruniko no big deal, that was a pretty long time ago when you think about it. think it was around the mid 2000's in one of the versions of aleph one. i recall seeing screenshots of the pathways starting room with the marathon hud on google images a lot around that time whenever i'd look up the game on there.
Obligatory "DUN-UH DUN-UH DUN-UH, MARATHON"
Also fun fact, basically every bungie fps franchise is a spiritual continuation of the one that preceded it. Pathways into Marathon into Halo into Destiny
And now I hope for bungie to find their way through pathways of darkness.
And ensure the Myth doesn't die off into nothingness.
I finally finished Marathon 2: Durandal last year. Had the XBLA version forever. Looking forward to the lore!
Imagine if Marathon was adapted into a film trilogy and served as the ultimate prequel to Halo.
Can’t wait to see it! Hopefully it doesn’t end destiny 2 though since there was no closure with the vex, lots of rumors from the community say that vex will be the main antagonist after the light vs dark saga
I am very excited for you to cover more of Marathon stuff. I remember watching you when I was in my middle - highschool days. You've come so far and I just wanted to remind you. I would never have gotten to know Halo if it wasn't without you!
I love how he set up a drinking game at the start of his own video: take a shot for every similarity you hear.
One of the first games I played on a Mac. Thanks for this.
I know it's years away but man I'm so happy Marathon is back.
next year
Could be close, Bungie changed their This Week At Bungie to This Week In Destiny recently. Many speculate because they will have different blog for Marathon (This Week In Marathon), so the sudden change may be hinting at stuff.
I counted at least 32 similarities between Marathon and Halo from these descriptions.
12:10 in Destiny 2, the 30th Bungie aniversary gave it an offical name kinda called the paraverse. Para meaning paracausal.
I remember playing Marathon II on LAN in 1995 at a comicbook studio I worked at. It was the best game that you could play on a Mac back then.
Bungie should have made a Remake of Marathon 1 with the extraction shooter as a local / online side game.
I've been waiting for this for a long time from you, so excited to watch this
Been looking forward to this, I’ve got the trilogy downloaded and plan to play them soon, awesome that they’re free as well
Will also recommend Pathways into Darkness, even if that game might feel more dated.
Friday evening perfect timing
There's not only things that Halo inherited but also their younger sibling, Destiny as well, Bungie does love their AI companions, ancient gods and civilizations,space travel and colonization, and there are a lot of traits from the enemy races that went on to Halo and Destiny's enemy aliens (insectoids, big muscle brute cabals, fleshy-death looking aliens), it's so wild to see those roots here
I remember playing the Marathon series as a teen in the 90s. I loved the games because they were first person shooters and I could just understand the story enough to know something epic was being told. Now that I’m 40, I need to go back and replay them, read every terminal again and relive those memories
What an excellent recap! I played this game as a kid and watching this illuminated so much more of the game that I either couldn't remember or that I didn't know about. Thank you!
Having barely ever looked at Marathon, I'm a bit excited to be a new fan.
Wow I actually never knew about the Battleroids and their origin. Way more gruesome than the SPARTAN program (even if the first couple SPARTAN programs were intellectually more horrifying, with the whole "ONI kidnapping children and replacing them with clones" part,) more like if the Strogg decided to make a SPARTAN.
I really like it when older games do their lore the way Marathon does. Marathon on the surface looks like a fairly innocuous space-themed Doom clone, but there's multiple layers of really dark, deep and terrifying lore that wouldn't immediately be apparent, you instead have to dig for it via the terminals and even the instruction manual. In a way some of Halo's alternate-reality games back in the 2000s felt like Bungie flexing their old muscles.
This was so cool. I'm looking forward for more marathon content in the future!
I have never been so proud of not only beating the first game but having the security helmet glued to my halo spartan, im happy that marathon is getting a new game.
The looker is very similar to the tickers in gears of war
7:20
"We swore to uphold the Covenant!"
Dude named Covenant:
i'm SO excited to hear about Marathon 2
Halo was originally meant to be set in the centuries in between when the Marathon left Mars and arrived at Tau Ceti in the 1st game. Cortana was gonna be revealed to be the same base coding as Durandal. However, any plans to connect Halo to Marathon were abandoned when Microsoft acquired Bungie and Halo. So yes, originally Bungie intended for Halo to be set in Marathon, but that all was dropped when Microsoft entered the picture. On top of that, it’s now both legally and canonically impossible to have the fictions be the same.
Exactly, this is why when the new Marathon game comes out, it will be really exciting given the universes will be very similar!
Man I love Marathon's music, its so good
I’m glad marathon is getting more recognition and I’m proud to say I’m a marathon fan before the new game announcement
Can you do a video talking about "the bungieverse". I know it is probably just a wild theory but it would be fun to speculate
*”Haha… LONG have I waited for this!”*
Man, to get real cutscenes to go along with the lore of Marathon would be phenomenal. Maybe the extraction shooter will have some, but likely will be notes or terminals again.
Very good video, thanks! Looking forward to know more about Marathon. What a great story. The gameplay actually gave me motion sickness, so I'm would like to see more concept art if possible.
Can't wait for part 2! Cheers!
I am still waiting for those Marathon lore videos...
Kept me hooked throughout the whole vid!
I'm glad to see marathon making its way in to the spotlight again and that you are making lore videos on it.
Also when you say other universes would ever do War Hammer 40K lore?
Man, hearing all this lore REALLY makes me excited for the new game. I hope we get lots and lots of little hints towards this story and newer expansions on it!😊
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I counted about 21 similarities to halo. Some very specific, some general. Very cool!
I had a busy week and weekend so I didn’t get to watch this until now, but this was such a good breakdown, HiddenExperia! I’ve always wanted to get further into Marathon lore, but the motion in game always makes me want to hurl, so I’m so excited that you’re doing a series that dives deep.
I can’t wait for this to come out. I’ve only ever casually gotten into extraction shooters before, so the prospect of one that has interesting lore at the forefront sounds amazing.
I agree you should branch out, maybe to games like Bioshock, Atomic Heart, Gears of War, etc.
Also the "Bungieverse" is also known as as the "paraverse" I think, as in the 30th anniversary Destiny 2 dlc they essentially made it cannon that all their games were connected through this force.
No matter what game it is, I'll watch all and any lore video you make, I just love how exciting your lore videos are. Keep it up!
Just the video I was looking for. I know nothing of Marathon. Thank you.
'Take a shot whenever you hear something similar to Halo.'
My liver: "I'm about to end this man's whole career."
Word of advice, drink cranberry juice as a substitute.
I’ve noticed 117 similarities so far
Been waiting for so long. I already know this is gonna be good
When I first saw the new Marathon trailer I didn't know what to think it looked crazy lol. I didn't even know that there was on old version of it
Enjoyed your summary, glad to see folks covering this game. A small correction for you, Durandal wasn't involved in the creation of battleroids since they were made well before the Marathon. As far as I know Strauss didn't make them either.
Love the lore.
I really like the inclusion of more than 1 AIs, they are all diferent both in purpose and personality.
Also I like how they arent all powerfull even in software, they can be defeated by the seph.
But the best part is is how they dont just turn evil when they go rampant, they have their own goals and dont mind cooperating with physical beyings, Durandal doesnt just obliterate the marathon after he gets the Phor ship, he just leaves with a crew if friendly Seph. Love this so much.
I absolutely loved that, well done, great to see some Marathon lore getting around again.
Are Bungie sure they didn't self plagiarise?
The Marathon Security Officer, like a combination of a Halo Spartan and the Doom's Doomguy. Definitely the reason why the Security helmet is my go to in Halo.
I wonder how much of the new Marathon game will relate to the old trilogy, especially since so much of it parallels Halo.
To be honest I really think you sold the bag putting this good video out so early, should have waited till more marathon hype generated for more views
I started off just curious and kept listening fore the lore. I can't wait to hear what happens in the second Marathon!
Hands down A-1 job with this.
Love how you did the end 😊
People don’t realize the Marathon series (and Pathway into Darkness) were a prequel to Halo.
This was a precursor to Halo, but this was worth a classic from Bungie.
The Mjolnir cyborgs being revived casualties with no memories is also pretty akin to Destiny’s Guardians.
Marathon got me through middle school - TCP/IP multiplayer baby!!! 😜
You can kinda tell Bungie always preferred Marathon to every other game they made, like Bungie’s golden child, even to the point where their other games are essentially retellings of Marathon
This was super interesting, looking forward to more marathon videos!
The new Marathon really seems to have nothing to do with the previous games. Extremely disappointing. I loved the old games when I was a kid. Absolutely zero hype for the new "extraction" shooter. Give me my single player campaigns back.
How you feel about the Fortnite art style?
21:38 This is SO incredibly Similar to Cortana on Halo Guardians trying to become the supreme Authority of the Universe using the "created" as her rod and staff and her trying and becoming very scarily close to becoming somewhat omniscient and thier versions of what they think is "God".
The Marathon logo is the same as the Reclaimer symbol for Halo, as well as an eye ball for a light bulb.
watching a second time, such a good job on this one.
Brilliant video, finally got round to watching it! I think, as a kid if I had played this instead of Halo, I would have been obsessed like I was with CE! Hopefully one day I can go back and replay these games, or maybe they could be remastered/remade someday.
Imagine if the phfor are just trying to disable a rampant ai on the ship and you're creating all this chaos for them 😂
In love with this Marathon content!
I had no idea that Marathon was already an established series, let alone there be a lore like Halo, I thought Marathon was a new IP that was gonna be a battle royale type of game
Can’t wait for the storm that is Marathon 2 and infinity’s lore and story
So the Phfhor a like the Cabal from Destiny in terms of how they’re named
I loved this. Can't wait for more... Seriously. please. Hurry. I need more. Thank you.
Fun fact the cyborg was master chief name in the files in halo ce. At least i herd that in a Iceberg
Your amazing man. Thank you for sharing your love with us
Hot take: The god at the bottom of the pyramid was Bungie’s original plan for the ark in halo 2 before they had to cut it
A game that will actually have content, please follow this game when it releases
Very informative video thanks mate
I love how hiddenxperia gives advice to 343 for extraction and bungee listens
One of the Phfor's species resembles an enemy that got cut from Halo 2 known as the drinol.
I also thougth that Abuse was a Bunge game, but i had to read up on that, very good video :-) hope they do a remake of the original games.
You are the first person I've seen even mention that game in *years*!
@@MishraArtificer :-) i just remember it from my linux days, it was free and very fun to play 😛
feels like ”we have halo at home”
I'd never even heard of Marathon before i saw the trailer but im excited to dive into the story
I wonder how much of the original Halo story, when it was still an RTS, would have been similar to the game we got or to Marathon's story. I always thought they leaned backwards a bit for the official release, due to time constraints. Neat video! I tried to play Marathon a long time ago but it was a bit too dated for me. Maybe trying again I can overcome some of that feeling.