Thats the Monster Hunter equivalent of meeting Pickle (the Deviljho) and learning he has an even more ridiculously dangerous form, then being told he has a tempered variant of that form (meaning its even tougher). Tempered Savage Deviljho is amongst one of the toughest fights in World, and that fucker uses smaller monsters as a battering ram or throwable.
Apex Frostclaws can be easy shoot the stomach and shoulder weakspots and then they'll stay frozen forever if it's like the frozen wilds as for Fireclaws I am assuming shoot the stomach and shoulder weak spots till they are destroyed then it'll keep burning constantly.
@@thomasallen9974 nope, fireclaw burns for about 20 seconds takes an insignificant amount of damage and then the fire peters out(from one source) also if you blast its belly you destroy those materials you are hunting it for in the first place
@@Noctis425 but shooting those parts mean you can't collect them and your need sooooo many of the webbing later on for some the legendary upgrades..... it the one resource i hate collecting
I cannot believe that someone sat down somewhere and said, do you know what the sequel needs? A daemonic Fireclaw but stronger, more stronger, no stronger again. OK now make it able to create mini volcanoes and literally carve out chunks of THE PLANET and throw them at the player. Is that stronger enough? No. Make it bigger.
I would have loved to be at the meeting where they discuased the Thunderjaw. Let's make a machine that looks like a T-Rex but bigger. Then let us make it fast. Briliant! Another guy: let's add some rapid fire machine guns on the side of its head! Perfect. I also want laser targeted disc launchers! Briliant! I think we have everything. Then there the silent asshole who says "laser eyes and make it bigger"
U know what is funny that i doesnt have any new attack. They are the same as in thw DLC from Zero Dawn. And they arw not harder. With the right build u can 2 shot almost every big robot in this game. I dont get why people think this game is hard
@@octavian-floringoga1655 yeah and the best part is it wont pull out the laser eye unless the disc launcher and the gun is destroyed , it belike : oh you got my 2 primary weapon ? let me wip out my laser that will take half your health with a singler hit :v
The machines may be some of the greatest enemies devised in a video game. Their design, their attacks and the fact that the player actually has to use strategy and change their fighting style to defeat them
Horizon Zero Dawn was released on a February, and its DLC was released the same year in November. For this game, we’ll most likely have to wait the same amount of time.
I love the idea of apex machines in tbis game it seems like a true evolution of what hephaestus was developing with the daemon infection but instead of infecting preexisting machines it was a straight up upgrade in armor, muscle, and ability. However i didn't like that they changed its music, that og fireclaw theme when one showed up made my heart drop. Its so badass and makes you fell like you're fighting a machine made to incinerate you.
I still wonder what the deal with the purple tendrils is. It resembles Faro overrides so much... Actually why does a hacking mechanism even create physical colored cables anyway?
The most annoying part about Fireclaw or Frostclaw is getting its sac webbing; its belly cant be destroyed or u wont get the material. Home boy is not hard but it is tanky. Also if u approach it from the other side, there should be empty field and a hill. If u stand on the hill looking directly at the spawn, there should be a big tree south of that hill. The fireclaw cannot go past this tree, and u can farm it with only 1 mechanic to worry about.
Easiest thing to do is go in close and dodge roll behind it when it swipes at you. You should be able to hit the shock coils on the back with shock arrows. Critical strike twice and shock it again on its way up. Rinse and repeat. It has 4 coils so you should be able to bring it down 4 times
Just use Electric arrows and make it get stunned and on its back is a cover where you find some canisters shoot them off shoot more arrows find the other canisters on him shoot them off and then just try to take off parts and leave belly alone and ya got it
So far the slaughterspine has been my favourite to fight. Also I think there is a certain soundtrack that only turns on when fighting some of the newer machines like the tremortusk and slaughterspine, and it makes it feel so much more epic.
I was around level 30 and underpowered when I fought one near a rebels camp. It took me forever and many lost resources crafting advanced arrows, but I managed to take one down. Man it took so long to kill it. It was a total sponge.
I like how there's more than just 1 Fireclaw site this time. Also they look a lot bigger than in Zero Dawn, maybe it's because they decided to make the Frostclaw a Mediumweight so they had to beef up the Fireclaw.
This reminds me of the segment where Aloy and Aratak had to face three Frostclaws all at once in the first game dlc. I play ultra hard and my god I do not want to fight them again.
In the process of watching Aloy fight an epic monster machine and suddenly I’m going ‘ wow! check the texture of the moss on that tree!’ Then back to pow! crunch! whoosh! kablammo! What a flipping amazing game!
I was having a hell of a time trying to kill one of these and decided to finally switch the difficulty, only to discover that it had somehow been on very hard mode the whole time.
Guerilla knew what they were doing when they took away the shield weaver 😭 however…… but based on how much more aggressive the machines feel this time, I think the shield weaver armor would’ve been PERFECT in West compared to Zero Dawn
One of the valor skills Is basically the shield weaver but for a limited time. Not very useful tho. There are other valor skills that are so much better.
The Shieldweaver underperformed versus normal adept armors with the appropriate resistances on higher difficulties anyway, it was hardly the end-all. And the effect returns as a valor surge.
I liked shield-weaver, but on higher difficulties it's basically made of paper. It'd help if it had a little bit of innate resistances or some weave slots
They didn’t really take it away. You have to work up the skill tree on Survivor and activate to Valor surge aspect on it. It applies the ShieldWeave to any armor you choose to wear . Forbidden West makes you work harder
Be aware of those kind of Monster Killer Machines! The Fire Claw is one of the most Dangerous opponents in Horizon! That Type is the only I'm afraid....
Not any ice, a arrow from the sun scourge bow it is. Or any advanced freeze hunter arrows. Please don’t get into the fight with a normal freeze arrow it would be instant RIP.
You're NOT THE ONLY ONE! The ICE-RAIL WAS/IS THE BEST WEAPON OF ANY OTHERS IN ZWRO DOWN! I wish we could have a chance to get this Monster Weapon again in FW!
First thought when I saw this thing was flashbacks to Frozen Wilds follwed by a horrified 'oh dear god no! Not again!' Then I realized they were bigger, tankier and still strong as fuck and once again the words 'dear god no! Not again!' Rang in my head
@@save3hunna891 don't know why, you could've seen it in any of the Siege videos on my channel, but sure internet stranger why the heck not? It's Cor_76
Dude I literally spammed acid and the explosive spear, and it went down like in a minute, it took me more time to fight the first apex thunderjaw I faced than the final boss XDD
I've already completely maxed out everything and done everything you can do in the game, and I can proudly say it's been the best game I've played in a very long time. Highly recommend for people who haven't got the game or haven't fully gotten into it.
When I first ran into a fireclaw I was scared. Even with legendary weapons and armor they still frighten me lol. Because the sac webbing is so important to get they take time to kill. But if it's just to get ammunition resources I use spears and they do 433 💥 damage and all I need is 2.
@@GamingGamer22 shoot the canisters off of its butt and back. And most cases the fireclaw is weak to frost and the frost claw is weak to fire. But if you use elemental, act fast. They can use their elements to heat or cool themselves off.
If you take out all three fire sacs (one on each arm and one on the chest) it stays on fire forever and takes 340 damage a second from the fire, so it dies really fast. Best way I’ve found to do it is with a shredder gauntlet with piercing shredders. With enough damage, each sac only takes two hits to blow.
Those damn SACs!! It’s so hard beating these things and keeping belly sac intact which seems ti be as frail as glass whine the rest of the machine is a tank.
I hated fighting the apex fireclaw. Especially when I needed to get the sacwebbing from it. An absolute nightmare of a machine. So many moves. So strong, so agile. Definitely the most OP machine.
There are two FC's in this area, the other one (the most Westerly of the two) is easier because the terrain blocks it's attacks. If you locate the campfire that is just to the north and between the FC and the Sunwing site, fast travel into it and then head directly for that fireclaw. As you approach you will be in some mangrove trees - you will see the FC standing guard. You'll get a glimpse of it between two large rocks. It doesnt know you are there and even when alerted, the gap between the rocks is too small for it - it has to break sight with you and travel around the rock to get close, even then the mangrove stops the flying boulders attacks and body-slams. I used a combination of winterweave stealth armour (maxed), hunter valor surge, ranged attack, the braced skill and a maxed out forgefall with range/stealth and impact damage coils. If you want the sac webbing, you must not set fire to him or detonate any weak spots. I know braced shot adds explosive to the arrow, but the game doesnt register it as an explosive shot, From stealth and range, I put the first shot into his face. Drop a smoke bomb and vanish into the mangrove. He will fairly quickly return to sentry duty waiting for the next arrow in the face. These are very high damage shots, maybe 3000 damage each. It doesnt take long before you can finish him with plain arrows from the hunter bow and go get your sac webbing. I tend to aim for his feet, his head or his arse ...anywhere that is well away from his weak spots. Try it.
They all are capable of kicking your/my ass. So many times I've killed a large apex machine, then died to one of the small 1s. One of the things I learnt late on is that your gear has + and - resists. Fight a machine that has an elemental attack to the same as your negative resists and you take a lot more damage.
The machine with the most offensive weaponry is probably SlaughterSpine but Fireclaws make up for that in speed and hitting like a truck. Tbh I've found ways of cheesing most of them.
slaghterspines are basically the top dog machine in this game although i find their attack speed is a bit more forgiving compared to a fire claw but probably do more damage. slitherfangs although reletivly weaker are a pain as well since they are pretty hard too hit as they constantly move and have a wide array of attacks thats somewhat hard to predict
This fight can be easy if you use the trees to your advantage it stops it from doing its charge attacks and throwing rocks at you but it can still use its lava attack on you.
With that weapon set, he could've beaten the fireclaw in just three minutes, using explosive spike throwers which deals more damaged when the fireclaw was under the elemental effects from the frozen arrows.
An improvement I would love to see would be environmental damage. Imagine coming back to a fire claw battleground to see all the trees leveled, the grasslands torched beyond repair and the skyline still burning a fresh orange. Then you think to yourself: "I was here"
Completed about 48% of the game, unlocked few legendary weapons. Weapon choice isn't very simple in the sequel, it was clearer in the zero dawn- one clear winner in each category.
When i fight a fireclaw or frostclaw, i always go for destroying all the element sacks because if you destroy all of them, frostclaw will be permamently frozen and fireclaws will be permamently on fire receaving huge damage per second (150dmg/sec)
After frozen wilds i was thinking wheee I’ll never have to fight that damn thing again lol when I saw this thing charging at me in that forest i was like welp then it did that rock throw and one shotted me 😂
For these big machines I usually stand on top of a mountain or hill or hide behind a tree or rock and shoot from far. Works with Thunderjaws. Guys like RaptorKing are hardcore gamers wow.
I just finished the game finally, massive n amazing. But I hated... Hated fighting these things for gear upgrades. Such a pain. Rock breakers also. Hit boxes are garbage even when you roll to Saftey!
found the best way to get all its parts is to shock it and stab it 2 times it drops, and itll die faster, and ull need all its parts especially the belly that blows up with anything , but if u shock it u have more chances of getting it intact
It’s sad to see the fireclaw lose the throne of most strongest machine in the game now give to the slaughterspine but then again the fireclaw will always remain one of the hardest machine to kill
Honestly, it's just because I find longer, more drawn out fights more fun and cinematic, I definitely know of much more efficient ways to kill thing in these games
@@njramsfan30 same lol i want the game to be harder so i dont even care about all the overpowered weapons and armor give me my bows and ill put some work lol
If not collecting parts then bombs and all are OK. But if you are collecting the part where its belly has to be intact, bows are probably the way to go.
The way I try to tackle these is by getting the plasma (is it plasma?) containers off by using a high tear bow and triple notching it to start everything off. Sneaking up behind fireclaws to go that gives you a big head start!
Awesome fight Awesome skills. Butbif o had to say one thing and that's use explosive blastslings and the cluster bomb one too. And the tear explosive sharpshooter to deal more damage on everything
What's even more annoying is that you COULD go for the main weak spot which is the stomach but then you'll destroy the fire sac which is required for upgrading. You COULD also use braced shot for an easy kill but because it causes an explosion, it's possible to easily destroy the components making it non lootable so fighting the fire claw for farming resources is annoying af. Best and easy way to kill it is to constantly freeze it and then go for a full lvl 3 powershots or focused shot against the weakpoints at the rear while frozen for massive damage. Best to get the first hits by destroying the fire sacs ON THE SHOULDERS and NOT THE STOMACH. The sacs ON THE SHOULDERS don't even give you the fire claw sacs
Me when I never got to play Frozen Wilds: Who TF put these bears in the main game?? Why is there a volcano under me now? Who in their right mind thought an apex version was a good idea??
I want guerilla studios to do its own single player monster hunter spinoff..that would be great because both games show so much similarities on how to fight monsters..I do like the MH stories spinoffs but it would be cool to single player offshoots that stays similar to monster hunter gameplay whilst still being its own thing
ive replayed zero dawn like 10 times again and again and ive been revisiting everywhere except their territory.theyre crazyy lol...i cant imagine em here
The easiest way for me to take these things down is to just freeze it activate critical boost valor surge and do spread shot with the carjas bane until I run out of weapon stamina and then just constantly jump to take advantage of agility coils on my warrior bow. Frozen+critical boost+spread shot+fully upgraded warrior bow makes it so much easier even on ultra hard
- "Sooo, the Fireclaws are back."
-"Oh god..."
- "Oh, and they come in Apex variants too!"
- "OH FOR F*CK'S SAKE!!!"
Thats the Monster Hunter equivalent of meeting Pickle (the Deviljho) and learning he has an even more ridiculously dangerous form, then being told he has a tempered variant of that form (meaning its even tougher). Tempered Savage Deviljho is amongst one of the toughest fights in World, and that fucker uses smaller monsters as a battering ram or throwable.
Apex Frostclaws can be easy shoot the stomach and shoulder weakspots and then they'll stay frozen forever if it's like the frozen wilds as for Fireclaws I am assuming shoot the stomach and shoulder weak spots till they are destroyed then it'll keep burning constantly.
Should have brought their soundtrack back too it was epic.
@@thomasallen9974 nope, fireclaw burns for about 20 seconds takes an insignificant amount of damage and then the fire peters out(from one source) also if you blast its belly you destroy those materials you are hunting it for in the first place
@@Noctis425 but shooting those parts mean you can't collect them and your need sooooo many of the webbing later on for some the legendary upgrades..... it the one resource i hate collecting
I cannot believe that someone sat down somewhere and said, do you know what the sequel needs? A daemonic Fireclaw but stronger, more stronger, no stronger again. OK now make it able to create mini volcanoes and literally carve out chunks of THE PLANET and throw them at the player.
Is that stronger enough? No. Make it bigger.
I would have loved to be at the meeting where they discuased the Thunderjaw. Let's make a machine that looks like a T-Rex but bigger. Then let us make it fast. Briliant!
Another guy: let's add some rapid fire machine guns on the side of its head!
Perfect.
I also want laser targeted disc launchers! Briliant!
I think we have everything. Then there the silent asshole who says "laser eyes and make it bigger"
U know what is funny that i doesnt have any new attack. They are the same as in thw DLC from Zero Dawn. And they arw not harder. With the right build u can 2 shot almost every big robot in this game. I dont get why people think this game is hard
@@octavian-floringoga1655 yeah and the best part is it wont pull out the laser eye unless the disc launcher and the gun is destroyed , it belike : oh you got my 2 primary weapon ? let me wip out my laser that will take half your health with a singler hit :v
@@davinbrandt8452 Doubt you can do that on Ultra Hard.
@@SashKaLakers 2 sets of traps dead
Me after my ultrahardcore frozen wilds playthrough: "Never again will I fight these things, never again."
Gorilla: " He he he"
give me your psn please
Its Guerilla
Pretty sure it's a bear
@@GamingGamer22 hmm you didn't get it, he wasn't talking about Fireclaw the Grizzly Bear Here, He Was Talking About Guerilla Games Who Created Horizon
@@nextbigthingthebeastincarn7216 lmao well that makes more sense
The machines may be some of the greatest enemies devised in a video game. Their design, their attacks and the fact that the player actually has to use strategy and change their fighting style to defeat them
I love seeing them limp when hurt too
I had some difficulties with bowser
have you fought the little small monkeys in that same area!? those little fuckers are tricky
Some of them don't make sense though... I wonder how a mammoth or a burning wolf are useful to world regeneration.
@@djphantom8800 Mammoth could hypotetically irl lower global warming and the fire wolf prob just to not make it too cold?
I haven't gotten that far into the game yet. It's cool to see they brought the dlc machines back
I wish they would have brought back the dlc weapons.. Ice rail was such a great weapon.
So are we gonna get new machine when new DLC come out?
@@lmaocat759 of course, that's what DLC's are for lol
@@lmaocat759 Hopefully a new machine, new weapon, or new machine rides
Imagine riding a slitherfang
Horizon Zero Dawn was released on a February, and its DLC was released the same year in November. For this game, we’ll most likely have to wait the same amount of time.
These machines are some of the best ever conceived in video games, awesome stuff, and I’m loving this impressive experience while playing it 👍😎👍
give me your psn please
Yep. I was going to comment the same thing. Incredible.
Shame the story was bland af
Same here
God, the feeling of just exploring Forbidden West, just to discover that these guys were back. Lol
Seeing this towering mechanical monstrosity slowly walking towards you whilst breathing flames. It's a tad scary ngl.
give me your psn please
@@save3hunna891 no
@@potentpotassium5776 have you ever fought a shellsnapper😟 that for me is terrifying.
@@3lle272 I would find snellshappers scary if they weren't hiding in the ground like cowards.
@@potentpotassium5776 🤣🤣🤣🤣 fair point
6:18
Me: "Mom can we get gravity"
Mom: "no son, we have gravity at home"
The gravity at home:
*Anti Gravity
@@nextbigthingthebeastincarn7216 the joke is the gravity is horrible, itz a meme
@@fatbus0596 I know but anti gravity makes more sense
@@nextbigthingthebeastincarn7216 I mean I think that takes away the point of the joke but okie
@@fatbus0596 no, Anti Gravity Is Really A Thing
I love the idea of apex machines in tbis game it seems like a true evolution of what hephaestus was developing with the daemon infection but instead of infecting preexisting machines it was a straight up upgrade in armor, muscle, and ability. However i didn't like that they changed its music, that og fireclaw theme when one showed up made my heart drop. Its so badass and makes you fell like you're fighting a machine made to incinerate you.
Looks like the area legendary armor has a crazy concentration duration
@@12linebackerThe thunder elite from the arena has insane duration
The fireclaw theme is so nerve wrecking
The tremortusk music is the same as the sound track in "King Arthur" the beginning with the 300ft elephants.
It's badass dude.
I still wonder what the deal with the purple tendrils is. It resembles Faro overrides so much...
Actually why does a hacking mechanism even create physical colored cables anyway?
The most annoying part about Fireclaw or Frostclaw is getting its sac webbing; its belly cant be destroyed or u wont get the material. Home boy is not hard but it is tanky. Also if u approach it from the other side, there should be empty field and a hill. If u stand on the hill looking directly at the spawn, there should be a big tree south of that hill. The fireclaw cannot go past this tree, and u can farm it with only 1 mechanic to worry about.
Easiest thing to do is go in close and dodge roll behind it when it swipes at you. You should be able to hit the shock coils on the back with shock arrows. Critical strike twice and shock it again on its way up. Rinse and repeat. It has 4 coils so you should be able to bring it down 4 times
Yes i needed to read this. Its the only override i havent gotten yet!
Just use Electric arrows and make it get stunned and on its back is a cover where you find some canisters shoot them off shoot more arrows find the other canisters on him shoot them off and then just try to take off parts and leave belly alone and ya got it
@@oOoExcellence I think the Apex version has Plasma canisters, not Shock.
I was wondering about the shots he was taking.
So far the slaughterspine has been my favourite to fight. Also I think there is a certain soundtrack that only turns on when fighting some of the newer machines like the tremortusk and slaughterspine, and it makes it feel so much more epic.
That buildup sound when the slaughterspine is charging its plasma up is the best.
@@edgarc7613 i fought my first one today i had chills then there's the thunder jaw theme
Slaughterspine is an absolute unit. I usually go for frost, then sharpshot the plasma guns on the sail
give me your psn please
The soundtrack is "Built to kill" if anyone's looking (:>
Those things were beasts in the first game, good to see they made them more so this time around.
I was around level 30 and underpowered when I fought one near a rebels camp. It took me forever and many lost resources crafting advanced arrows, but I managed to take one down. Man it took so long to kill it. It was a total sponge.
give me your psn please
Yes sir
This one is harder to deal with than a thunderjaw for me, it moves a lot so its hard to hit its weak spots
give me your psn please
@@save3hunna891 why?
@@zane-x4705 add as friend
@@save3hunna891 no thank you im not even playing anymore
Best location to beat it would be in the woods, trees are indestructible, makes it easier to evade it's fire boulders
As a tank myself, these bears are doing us proud.
I like how there's more than just 1 Fireclaw site this time. Also they look a lot bigger than in Zero Dawn, maybe it's because they decided to make the Frostclaw a Mediumweight so they had to beef up the Fireclaw.
This reminds me of the segment where Aloy and Aratak had to face three Frostclaws all at once in the first game dlc. I play ultra hard and my god I do not want to fight them again.
Not to forget the humongous fireclaw in the couldron epsilon of frozen wilds!! Man that was something.
That fight was no joke and took me some serious attempts
@@Deep_the_Gamer And That Daemonic Thunderjaw MY GOOD
@@nextbigthingthebeastincarn7216 Stayed under the belly most of the time LOL
I believe there was also one wherrr you fought two fireclaws at once
In the process of watching Aloy fight an epic monster machine and suddenly I’m going ‘ wow! check the texture of the moss on that tree!’ Then back to pow! crunch! whoosh! kablammo!
What a flipping amazing game!
I was having a hell of a time trying to kill one of these and decided to finally switch the difficulty, only to discover that it had somehow been on very hard mode the whole time.
I think if you change the difficulty to custom to turn on easy loot, it defaults to very hard.
Guerilla knew what they were doing when they took away the shield weaver 😭 however…… but based on how much more aggressive the machines feel this time, I think the shield weaver armor would’ve been PERFECT in West compared to Zero Dawn
One of the valor skills Is basically the shield weaver but for a limited time. Not very useful tho. There are other valor skills that are so much better.
The Shieldweaver underperformed versus normal adept armors with the appropriate resistances on higher difficulties anyway, it was hardly the end-all. And the effect returns as a valor surge.
I thought one of the side quests to find vault keys might give me similar armour, but I just got a mobile shield.
I liked shield-weaver, but on higher difficulties it's basically made of paper. It'd help if it had a little bit of innate resistances or some weave slots
They didn’t really take it away. You have to work up the skill tree on Survivor and activate to Valor surge aspect on it. It applies the ShieldWeave to any armor you choose to wear . Forbidden West makes you work harder
other machines: begin the fight by running at you or shooting something at you
fireclaw: begins the fight by making a fucking volcano beneath you
Ok And ?
The music, intensity, the amazing enemy, the strategy to defeat them and the atmosphere in general. It’s like a boss fight, this game is amazing
My god. What a fight. I haven't run into one of these yet. Ice still slays on em I see. Good to know. Nicely done. 🙂
Be aware of those kind of Monster Killer Machines! The Fire Claw is one of the most Dangerous opponents in Horizon! That Type is the only I'm afraid....
Not any ice, a arrow from the sun scourge bow it is. Or any advanced freeze hunter arrows.
Please don’t get into the fight with a normal freeze arrow it would be instant RIP.
They're new
@@Fudge_Fantasy They are not new... They are from the previous part DLC Frozen Wilds
Took it down in 3 hits.
I miss my beloved improved Icerail against this beast
You're NOT THE ONLY ONE! The ICE-RAIL WAS/IS THE BEST WEAPON OF ANY OTHERS IN ZWRO DOWN!
I wish we could have a chance to get this Monster Weapon again in FW!
@@lyspec so true... Primitive icicle gauss rifle for the win
@@thlis6582 Word!
First thought when I saw this thing was flashbacks to Frozen Wilds follwed by a horrified 'oh dear god no! Not again!' Then I realized they were bigger, tankier and still strong as fuck and once again the words 'dear god no! Not again!' Rang in my head
give me your psn please
@@save3hunna891 don't know why, you could've seen it in any of the Siege videos on my channel, but sure internet stranger why the heck not? It's Cor_76
One of the Most hardest to beat Machines in Forbidden West🔥
Yes that and the TideRipper wow 😯 scary in the water and land damn! That thing is a horror movie in the water 💧
Bro I remember the dlc battle with two frost claws
I wanted to cry when they stared to chase me
@@jvm8797 it's frostclaw
@@nextbigthingthebeastincarn7216 thx
The ending boss is probably the easiest thing in the game no cap
I mean... it was either that or a slaughter spine, a ThunderJaw a Dreadwing , and a Tideripper all at once
yeah. i did all the side missions and errands first. boss went down pretty easy. especially since it flinches at most legendary weapons
The ending boss was the only one I actually died more than twice to lmao
@@kalamies. i killed it in like 5 seconds lmao
Dude I literally spammed acid and the explosive spear, and it went down like in a minute, it took me more time to fight the first apex thunderjaw I faced than the final boss XDD
I've already completely maxed out everything and done everything you can do in the game, and I can proudly say it's been the best game I've played in a very long time. Highly recommend for people who haven't got the game or haven't fully gotten into it.
give me your psn please
Nice. How many hours did it take to 100% the game for you?
Appreciate you saying that. Let's be real the forbidden west is a masterpiece. I don't trust and am willing to fight anyone who says otherwise.
I remember fighting the daemonic fireclaw in the DLC. Holy shit it was hard.
When I first ran into a fireclaw I was scared. Even with legendary weapons and armor they still frighten me lol.
Because the sac webbing is so important to get they take time to kill.
But if it's just to get ammunition resources I use spears and they do
433 💥 damage and all I need is 2.
I have no idea how to kill them without destroying the sac webbing
@@GamingGamer22 shoot the canisters off of its butt and back. And most cases the fireclaw is weak to frost and the frost claw is weak to fire. But if you use elemental, act fast. They can use their elements to heat or cool themselves off.
@@GamingGamer22 freeze it and just focus on its legs with just advanced hunter arrows. Takes quite a while but it's definitely cheaper.
I wish they kept the Fireclaw's theme from the frozen wilds
The horror I feel when it turns its front to me. It's so good. My goodness the strategy. The graphics. Ineffable.
this game fight music is top 10 ever
As a longtime lover of the Monster Hunter series, seeing Apex variants of the machines immediately brought back Vietnam level flashbacks.
I remember finishing a game from monster hunter a year ago. This game had me breaking a sweat and reminded me of MH lmao
If you take out all three fire sacs (one on each arm and one on the chest) it stays on fire forever and takes 340 damage a second from the fire, so it dies really fast. Best way I’ve found to do it is with a shredder gauntlet with piercing shredders. With enough damage, each sac only takes two hits to blow.
“This things a tank” Yeah when your not hitting the weak spots 😂
Thank you - why so many arrows on its face???
Back in horizon these dudes even surpass the thunderjaw
This proves dlc enemy surpasses boss enemies
I remember fighting the fireclaw in frozen wilds and gosh I was sweating, imagine going against the apex ones
These guys can take a beating. I have it on very hard and spike throwers are the only way to go with this
give me your psn please
Those damn SACs!! It’s so hard beating these things and keeping belly sac intact which seems ti be as frail as glass whine the rest of the machine is a tank.
I hated fighting the apex fireclaw. Especially when I needed to get the sacwebbing from it. An absolute nightmare of a machine. So many moves. So strong, so agile. Definitely the most OP machine.
There are two FC's in this area, the other one (the most Westerly of the two) is easier because the terrain blocks it's attacks. If you locate the campfire that is just to the north and between the FC and the Sunwing site, fast travel into it and then head directly for that fireclaw. As you approach you will be in some mangrove trees - you will see the FC standing guard. You'll get a glimpse of it between two large rocks. It doesnt know you are there and even when alerted, the gap between the rocks is too small for it - it has to break sight with you and travel around the rock to get close, even then the mangrove stops the flying boulders attacks and body-slams. I used a combination of winterweave stealth armour (maxed), hunter valor surge, ranged attack, the braced skill and a maxed out forgefall with range/stealth and impact damage coils. If you want the sac webbing, you must not set fire to him or detonate any weak spots. I know braced shot adds explosive to the arrow, but the game doesnt register it as an explosive shot, From stealth and range, I put the first shot into his face. Drop a smoke bomb and vanish into the mangrove. He will fairly quickly return to sentry duty waiting for the next arrow in the face. These are very high damage shots, maybe 3000 damage each. It doesnt take long before you can finish him with plain arrows from the hunter bow and go get your sac webbing. I tend to aim for his feet, his head or his arse ...anywhere that is well away from his weak spots.
Try it.
This game looks more difficult than the previous one. I am excited to try the new weapons now.
It’s so difficult.. I died at least 5 times while trying to defeat a thunderjaw and 3 times from ravagers 😭😭😭
Fireclaw was the most powerful enemy in zero dawn. What's the most dangerous enemy in forbidden west?
They all are capable of kicking your/my ass. So many times I've killed a large apex machine, then died to one of the small 1s. One of the things I learnt late on is that your gear has + and - resists. Fight a machine that has an elemental attack to the same as your negative resists and you take a lot more damage.
The machine with the most offensive weaponry is probably SlaughterSpine but Fireclaws make up for that in speed and hitting like a truck. Tbh I've found ways of cheesing most of them.
slaghterspines are basically the top dog machine in this game although i find their attack speed is a bit more forgiving compared to a fire claw but probably do more damage. slitherfangs although reletivly weaker are a pain as well since they are pretty hard too hit as they constantly move and have a wide array of attacks thats somewhat hard to predict
This fight can be easy if you use the trees to your advantage it stops it from doing its charge attacks and throwing rocks at you but it can still use its lava attack on you.
Fireclaws/frostclaws and Slaughterspines are the two/three MOST DANGEROUS machines in this game. Slitherfangs come close
Yea slaughterspines and fireclaws are true horrors in apex version
Wut, to me a slaughterspine is a joke because their weapons are either easy to prevent or very inaccurate
Slaughterspines aren't that bad, they're just bigger thunderjaws imo
@@c1ubfub771 thunderjaws looks bigger?
@@mackan0207 is that a question? Or?
Fighting thier non evolved counterparts gave me sleepless nights. Now this is on another level.
My dad overdrived a fireclaw in the past. Now it help at the farm. We name it FiRePlow.very practical machine
i am still completing everything on the first game on PC. I can't wait to play this.
Truly, what a great game 😊
give me your psn please
With that weapon set, he could've beaten the fireclaw in just three minutes, using explosive spike throwers which deals more damaged when the fireclaw was under the elemental effects from the frozen arrows.
Whenever the fireclaw does that body slam move, this one tone plays in my head
"...its JOHN CENA!!"
I’m still way Far East after like 50 hours of gameplay already, it’s good to see these bad guys come back and on a jungle forest setting!
An improvement I would love to see would be environmental damage. Imagine coming back to a fire claw battleground to see all the trees leveled, the grasslands torched beyond repair and the skyline still burning a fresh orange. Then you think to yourself: "I was here"
In the hzd, I used to shoot some arrows at them and quickly hide in nearby caves like a scared little hamster
Completed about 48% of the game, unlocked few legendary weapons. Weapon choice isn't very simple in the sequel, it was clearer in the zero dawn- one clear winner in each category.
I like to appreciate the design of the fireclaw before signing a waiver about going to the mental asylum after fighting the apex fireclaw
When i fight a fireclaw or frostclaw, i always go for destroying all the element sacks because if you destroy all of them, frostclaw will be permamently frozen and fireclaws will be permamently on fire receaving huge damage per second (150dmg/sec)
After frozen wilds i was thinking wheee I’ll never have to fight that damn thing again lol when I saw this thing charging at me in that forest i was like welp then it did that rock throw and one shotted me 😂
Glad to see this beast BACK!
Ho-lee crap. And I thought the previous fireclaws were terrifying!
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"They're Tanks"
Yeah....
*having ptsd flashbacks from ultra mode*
I love how the bears look like they’ll give you the peoples elbow when they drop on you. 😂
For these big machines I usually stand on top of a mountain or hill or hide behind a tree or rock and shoot from far. Works with Thunderjaws. Guys like RaptorKing are hardcore gamers wow.
I just finished the game finally, massive n amazing. But I hated... Hated fighting these things for gear upgrades. Such a pain. Rock breakers also. Hit boxes are garbage even when you roll to Saftey!
Man you are a fantastic player! Great skills and so much fun to watch your vids! The machines are amazing and the gameplay is outstanding
Pain in the f.... ass to take down...
Remember that one goddamn frozen wilds quest when you need to beat 6 stupid fireclaws in a row
Getting the sac webbing of these apex fireclaws was painful. Barely tickle them and the sac is so sensitive to damage
hated them in frozen wilds, and hate them even more in forbidden west lol
And to make it even MORE challenging, you need to keep the sacks intact, because you need it for upgrades.
What was Guerilla thinking!?
Do no one use anymore the sonic boom arrow that get a lot of armor out of the machines?
found the best way to get all its parts is to shock it and stab it 2 times it drops, and itll die faster, and ull need all its parts especially the belly that blows up with anything , but if u shock it u have more chances of getting it intact
Istg this apex fireclaw is pure big ass beast. Way more aggressive than the normal one
That's one hell of a firebender bear
I am loving the purple on black. But it still would have looked good 8n Blazing Green.
The second most menacing and terrifying thing to fight other than the Thunderjaw in Zero dawn is even tankier here? Damn
My secret I found is to use Purgewater ammo to nullify its fire attacks and then shoot them from within the trees where they can't reach.
It’s sad to see the fireclaw lose the throne of most strongest machine in the game now give to the slaughterspine but then again the fireclaw will always remain one of the hardest machine to kill
give me your psn please
@@save3hunna891 yeah your so funny I laughed so hard
@@randomaccount3174 ??? your nickname?
@@save3hunna891 oh my bad I’m sorry
6:18 gotta love the physics of this game sometimes
Even worse when the blaze unit needs to be intact because of the override
Why don't you use bombs(traps and throw-able and tripcasters ?
Do you find it more effective with arrows?
Honestly, it's just because I find longer, more drawn out fights more fun and cinematic, I definitely know of much more efficient ways to kill thing in these games
@@Raptorking12389 lol im the same way.. Im like.. i got all these bombs i can use but i love using the bows..
@@njramsfan30 same lol i want the game to be harder so i dont even care about all the overpowered weapons and armor
give me my bows and ill put some work lol
If not collecting parts then bombs and all are OK. But if you are collecting the part where its belly has to be intact, bows are probably the way to go.
Even on Story Mode difficulty their tanks, just tanks that don't do much damage to you, but THEY still can take a beating before they die.
Bloody monsters i tell ya. And they made us fight a fireclaw and frostclaw as the final boss in Frozen wilds DLC to think of the cheek😂
Horizont logic : Fire burns water but not the trees.
The way I try to tackle these is by getting the plasma (is it plasma?) containers off by using a high tear bow and triple notching it to start everything off. Sneaking up behind fireclaws to go that gives you a big head start!
Awesome fight Awesome skills. Butbif o had to say one thing and that's use explosive blastslings and the cluster bomb one too. And the tear explosive sharpshooter to deal more damage on everything
What's even more annoying is that you COULD go for the main weak spot which is the stomach but then you'll destroy the fire sac which is required for upgrading. You COULD also use braced shot for an easy kill but because it causes an explosion, it's possible to easily destroy the components making it non lootable so fighting the fire claw for farming resources is annoying af. Best and easy way to kill it is to constantly freeze it and then go for a full lvl 3 powershots or focused shot against the weakpoints at the rear while frozen for massive damage. Best to get the first hits by destroying the fire sacs ON THE SHOULDERS and NOT THE STOMACH. The sacs ON THE SHOULDERS don't even give you the fire claw sacs
Me when I never got to play Frozen Wilds: Who TF put these bears in the main game?? Why is there a volcano under me now? Who in their right mind thought an apex version was a good idea??
I want guerilla studios to do its own single player monster hunter spinoff..that would be great because both games show so much similarities on how to fight monsters..I do like the MH stories spinoffs but it would be cool to single player offshoots that stays similar to monster hunter gameplay whilst still being its own thing
Still have nightmares of the Fireclaws in the Frozen Wilds DLC. Watching this video was stressful
These fireclaws are fucking scary at night when they are on fire
The worst things is when you want the sac webbing man it's so tough to kill it without blowing up the webbing there are like 3 sacs on his body
ive replayed zero dawn like 10 times again and again and ive been revisiting everywhere except their territory.theyre crazyy lol...i cant imagine em here
No, it’s bad enough with the daemonic fireclaws. Now we got APEX FIRECLAWS, fuccin great
I like how FW provides challenge even to skilled players. Not every machine could be taken down with ease even if you have legendary weapons.
The easiest way for me to take these things down is to just freeze it activate critical boost valor surge and do spread shot with the carjas bane until I run out of weapon stamina and then just constantly jump to take advantage of agility coils on my warrior bow. Frozen+critical boost+spread shot+fully upgraded warrior bow makes it so much easier even on ultra hard
Imagine having to fight a apex fireclaw at ultra hard difficulty and needing to preserve the sac webbing 😂
Bro was anybody jumping back when that machine was launching at her?!!! Omg best looking game besides Elden Ring for sure