I've worked on many of these old laptops. I hated replacing hard drives in them. For me, the pinnacle of Apple design was the MacBook Pro mid-2012 model. This was the last easily repairable and upgradeable MacBook. We have 3 of these in my household upgraded with SSDs and maxed out RAM (16GB) and these things are rock solid (plus I have a few more for parts). Unfortunately Apple deemed these obsolete long ago and the latest supported OS is starting to show its age with many applications now unsupported. On mine, I just installed the latest version of Pop_OS! and it works great. Still plenty fast and useful. I will have to look into OpenCore Legacy Patcher though because I'd like for the other ones to have a newer macOS installed.
I have one and you can upgrade from Catalina to Sonoma with OpenCore Legacy Patcher to squeeze more life out of it. The 2012 and 2013 MacBook Pros are far from obsolete in 2023.
@@NormanF62 Good to know. Thank you! I don't have any experience with OpenCore but am going to give it a shot to prolong the lives of my family's MacBook Pros. I completely agree that these are not obsolete.
@@NormanF62Yep. SSD die on your newer MacBook Pro? New computer time. RAM die on your newer MacBook Pro? New computer time. Apple prides themselves on supposedly being so environmentally friendly, yet they make their expensive computers disposable. I used to love Apple computers back in the day. I also used to be an Apple Authorized Technician so I saw how they made their computers less and less repairable over time. I'm glad I'm not an Apple tech anymore!
Fun fact: someone ported relativity recent versions of Firefox to Mac OS X 10.6, 10.7 and 10.8. There’s even a port of the _latest version_ of Chromium to Mac OS X 10.7 and later! The latter has some bugs, but I use them on my 2008 BlackBook so it can actually survive as my secondary machine.
@@Aneeshjitechnical the polycarbonate MacBook that Apple made in black; didn’t last long (from the Intel intro in 2006 to the 2008 Penryn machine that I have).
Interesting that you had issues with the Kingston A400, my 2009 Macbook Pro 13 also had problems recognizing it, but over USB it was recognized, my guess is that the A400 is not SATA I backwards compatible.
Not sata 1, but seems to be sata 2 compatible. Had issues with a mid 2007 white plastic macbook when I did an SSD swap wherein it would detect the SSD, but was painfully slow. Turns out the SSD I used originally was not sata 2 backwards compatible, and was having major communication issues.
This generation of MacBook Pro is slowly becoming one of my favourites. The Early 2008 can run Sonoma with OCLP and it is surprisingly usable! I have Tiger on one partition and Sonoma on the other :)
I've had a 2008 15' non unibody since new, got solid use out of it for a decade or so, it was a Starlight Foundation gift to me when I was younger and was hospitalised long-term with a chronic illness. That Mac got me through some tough times, that's for sure.
While watching this I used T-Cut silver car scratch remover to clean up the matt aluminium cover of a Dell laptop. It had a mark on it like the surface had been attacked by a liquid of harsh pH. Looks perfect now with all marks gone.
Great score! My first MacBook was a 17” core2duo that I maxed out and it cost me a fortune! But it was a really great computer, except it would literally burn my legs if used on my lap. Oh and the graphics failed twice 😅 one thing that really annoyed me was the sharp edge on the front of the palm rest that would dig into your wrists.
It's a MacBookPro4,1 (A1260 pre-Unibody). The official Apple RAM maximum is 4 GB but it can take 6 GB according to MacTracker app and the Everymac website. One of the 2x200-pin PC2-5300 (667MHz) DDR2 SO-DIMM 2 GB modules was replaced by an OWC 4 GB module.@@crystalraptor195
Mountain Lion via MacPostFactor is pretty easy on any Core 2 Duo Mac. In theory, a 32 bit EFI Install of Yosemite is doable, but the ATI graphics is the challenge. The Intel GMA on the white MacBooks and Mac Mini is actually easier to do.
I got a Early 2008 MBP back in 2018 for $80. I upgraded the RAM, installed an SSD, and replaced the crunchy speakers. It was a great laptop after using DOSDude's patches to upgrade it to MacOS El Capitan. Had the Nvidia graphics too so I could play older games well. Was my first Mac and I learned a ton! Still have it but haven't used it in a few years.
I do have the 2006 MacBook Pro. Still works. I got it for free few years ago. Battery is no good tho. Haven’t bothered to replace the battery. It works fine plugged in to the external power supply
Not bad, and I would have definitely purchased these as well! Regarding the maximum RAM, yes, some of the early Core 2 era boards will only accept 2GB maximum RAM, as in the case of my Fujitsu Lifebook E8020 and Packard Bell MV46. Later ones will take 4GB. I would also have kept the original HDDs. Yes, SSDs are cheap, but with such old OS'es (which likely aren't as bloated as modern ones) the difference won't be as great as running Windows 10 or 11 on a HDD (compared to an SSD). Also, with support for modern Mac OS versions being nil, I can see why the last user dual booted with Windows 7; Windows 7 would be a hell of a lot more modern (and more capable) than Mac OS 10.7! Though given that modern Linux distros require 64 bit CPUs, your mileage with 32 bit Linux distros may vary.
I had one of these MacBook Pros with the notorious NVIDIA 8600M GPU. Strangely enough, despite putting it through the ringer for many years, including gaming via BootCamp, I never experienced a GPU or logic board failure. Same for the 2011 MacBook Pro I bought to replace it. Of course, now that I say this, my current Apple silicon MacBook Pro is going to bite it tomorrow. LOL
I have the very last gen of this MacBook Pro model with a 512MB vram and 6GB RAM ( real maximum instead of 4 that apple claims ). Great machine. Will need to eventually do the thermal paste on it and purchase a new battery.
I have used the 2007 Macbook Pro with a core2 duo 2.4Ghz and 4GB of RAM, still having a original battery that works and holds a charge for about 30-45 minutes. It also had a Kingston A400 SSD that worked absolutely fine with no problems. It was a fine laptop but it was limited to El Capitan so it wasnt really the best experience to use. Now its retired and my girlfriend is now using it with patched windows 11 that works perfectly normal.
With OCLP you might be able to get to a modern macOS like Monterey. But I would imagine it would be.....painful. Maybe the dosdude1 patcher and High Sierra would be a better choice....funny that it runs windows 11 perfectly, of course at its core (pun intended) its just a 2007 Intel PC.
had a similar one and faced a similar issue with the machine being password locked .ended finding a way to add a user to the existing install , and deleting the older locked user profile , then everything working already
You can do it even easier than that usually. Older Macs weren't very secure. You could just boot from the recovery partition, open up the terminal and type resetpassword to reset the existing user's password!
I kept around one of those that I found in the dumpster, it was a late 2008 w/ the middle-tier CPU and 6GB of memory, and at one time I had it running patched Catalina. As long as you’re not trying to run the Notes app (w/ notes sync-ed from an iPad), everything else runs fine. I was super proud of it running Minecraft 1.14 at 30fps. They feel like a relic compared to the Unibody direction Apple went with
I recently procured a 2009 iMac 27" and a 2012 Mac Mini to add to my growing Apple hoard. I got the special toolkit and have been enjoying upgrading them and putting them into productive use. They're not easy to work on but there's still a lot we can do with them. I got a Powerbook G4 with 10.2 jaguar on it. Can't wait to get to work on that one. They're just neat.
Original MacBook Pro Hard Drive Is Good In Perfect Condition And Stayed Like That, Original MacBook Pro Has 32-Bit CPU, So You Can't Put An SSD Into It!
interesting to see the a400 not work. in theory all sata drive generations are forwards and backwards cmpatible. which means you can put a sata i drive in a sata iii computer. or a sata iii drive in a sata i computer.
Australians seem to be very generous with their tech, so it seems. People in the UK love to sell old tech for as much as possible. Cheapest mac I've seen is around £200.
I've got a UK purchased mid 2010 top spec MBP (with the anti-reflective metal screen bevel) with newish battery and SSD which works well. Forever wondering how much it'd be worth watching this channel.
For me those would be awesome music players and photo editing machines. They won't win anyone over that's modern, but apple's older software is great to use
I have a 2009 MBP 15 inch triple booster with Snow Loepard Win XP and Kubuntu. I was surprised how easy it was to get Kubuntu on the old Mac and how fast it was with it (SSD and 8GB RAM).
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Great Video, it is always educational and entertaining. Would you be interested in a Dell Inspiron B130.
The 2007 can still run the latest macOS with OpenCore Legacy Patcher. Great video as always.
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I remember owning these...was nice to have all the upgrade options, but man unibody chassis was such a nice upgrade in the later models
It was $10 tho bro
@@MyFriendlyPup I was referring to when I owned mine, and when I upgraded from the non unibodies to the unibodies that followed
At least these old ones have replaceable RAM, Battery and Hard Drives !
@@Maximus20778 I'm pointing out that new Apple laptops have no ability to upgrade or replace common parts.
Until everything was soldered in and ports disappeared
I've worked on many of these old laptops. I hated replacing hard drives in them. For me, the pinnacle of Apple design was the MacBook Pro mid-2012 model. This was the last easily repairable and upgradeable MacBook. We have 3 of these in my household upgraded with SSDs and maxed out RAM (16GB) and these things are rock solid (plus I have a few more for parts). Unfortunately Apple deemed these obsolete long ago and the latest supported OS is starting to show its age with many applications now unsupported. On mine, I just installed the latest version of Pop_OS! and it works great. Still plenty fast and useful. I will have to look into OpenCore Legacy Patcher though because I'd like for the other ones to have a newer macOS installed.
I have one and you can upgrade from Catalina to Sonoma with OpenCore Legacy Patcher to squeeze more life out of it. The 2012 and 2013 MacBook Pros are far from obsolete in 2023.
@@NormanF62 Good to know. Thank you! I don't have any experience with OpenCore but am going to give it a shot to prolong the lives of my family's MacBook Pros. I completely agree that these are not obsolete.
They’re upgradeable and repairable. That’s what makes them a good value compared to modern Macs, which when they die, you have to dispose of them.
@@NormanF62Yep. SSD die on your newer MacBook Pro? New computer time. RAM die on your newer MacBook Pro? New computer time. Apple prides themselves on supposedly being so environmentally friendly, yet they make their expensive computers disposable. I used to love Apple computers back in the day. I also used to be an Apple Authorized Technician so I saw how they made their computers less and less repairable over time. I'm glad I'm not an Apple tech anymore!
I have one of those mid-2012 laptops,too. I use it with OS13 and it absolutely rocks.
Fun fact: someone ported relativity recent versions of Firefox to Mac OS X 10.6, 10.7 and 10.8. There’s even a port of the _latest version_ of Chromium to Mac OS X 10.7 and later! The latter has some bugs, but I use them on my 2008 BlackBook so it can actually survive as my secondary machine.
Blackbook?
@@Aneeshjitechnical the polycarbonate MacBook that Apple made in black; didn’t last long (from the Intel intro in 2006 to the 2008 Penryn machine that I have).
link?
these are perfect machines for writers who just need to sit down and get writing done without any distractions
Keyboard on the First Gen Intel MBPs will always be my favorite.
Interesting that you had issues with the Kingston A400, my 2009 Macbook Pro 13 also had problems recognizing it, but over USB it was recognized, my guess is that the A400 is not SATA I backwards compatible.
Not sata 1, but seems to be sata 2 compatible. Had issues with a mid 2007 white plastic macbook when I did an SSD swap wherein it would detect the SSD, but was painfully slow. Turns out the SSD I used originally was not sata 2 backwards compatible, and was having major communication issues.
This generation of MacBook Pro is slowly becoming one of my favourites. The Early 2008 can run Sonoma with OCLP and it is surprisingly usable! I have Tiger on one partition and Sonoma on the other :)
If you are interested in Linux, Debian still rolls 32 bit support and it's pretty good.
These things had INSANE style. Still look better than most Windows PC laptops today.
and the latest macbook pros
@@DavidNikkiZaneno they don't, stop glazing this terrible laptop
@@Maximus20778 it is absolutely a terrible laptop, yes, i just think that the current design of the macbook pro is ugly
Wow, that looks much more repairable than the MacBook I have! That disc drive also looks very clean. I love it!
Hello there, after being inspired by your videos, I’ve decided to purchase a similar model to this one off Ebay to attempt to repair.
I've had a 2008 15' non unibody since new, got solid use out of it for a decade or so, it was a Starlight Foundation gift to me when I was younger and was hospitalised long-term with a chronic illness. That Mac got me through some tough times, that's for sure.
While watching this I used T-Cut silver car scratch remover to clean up the matt aluminium cover of a Dell laptop.
It had a mark on it like the surface had been attacked by a liquid of harsh pH.
Looks perfect now with all marks gone.
Snow Leopard was my fave OS for those early intel macs.
Great score! My first MacBook was a 17” core2duo that I maxed out and it cost me a fortune! But it was a really great computer, except it would literally burn my legs if used on my lap. Oh and the graphics failed twice 😅 one thing that really annoyed me was the sharp edge on the front of the palm rest that would dig into your wrists.
Which year was the MacBook Pro?
I remember the leg burning when I would game on my 2009 Core 2 Duo MacBook Pro. It was the 13" model.
I really like that older-style keyboard. I have a 2008 15-inch version, it now has 6 GB of RAM, 240 GB SSD, 2.4 GHz C2D and runs macOS 10.11.6.
How did you get 6 gigabytes of ram on it? Is it a non-unibody A1260 MacBook Pro?
It's a MacBookPro4,1 (A1260 pre-Unibody). The official Apple RAM maximum is 4 GB but it can take 6 GB according to MacTracker app and the Everymac website. One of the 2x200-pin PC2-5300 (667MHz) DDR2 SO-DIMM 2 GB modules was replaced by an OWC 4 GB module.@@crystalraptor195
Chromium Legacy is fully modern, and is compatible with Lion. As is Interweb, and Arctic Fox.
Mountain Lion via MacPostFactor is pretty easy on any Core 2 Duo Mac. In theory, a 32 bit EFI Install of Yosemite is doable, but the ATI graphics is the challenge. The Intel GMA on the white MacBooks and Mac Mini is actually easier to do.
7:28 a job for the greatest technician that's ever lived: swamp gooch
ive used opencore to upgrade the os works great on my 2010 dual core with 6 gigs ram and core duo
Who else wants a bottle of eucalyptus oil from Santa?
I got a Early 2008 MBP back in 2018 for $80. I upgraded the RAM, installed an SSD, and replaced the crunchy speakers. It was a great laptop after using DOSDude's patches to upgrade it to MacOS El Capitan. Had the Nvidia graphics too so I could play older games well. Was my first Mac and I learned a ton! Still have it but haven't used it in a few years.
Your videos are so nice to watch, you clean those old laptops so neatly it gives me so much satisfaction to know they aren’t going to run hot nor slow
Awesome video. Thanks.
I do have the 2006 MacBook Pro. Still works. I got it for free few years ago. Battery is no good tho. Haven’t bothered to replace the battery. It works fine plugged in to the external power supply
Well you just made my Friday better
Not bad, and I would have definitely purchased these as well! Regarding the maximum RAM, yes, some of the early Core 2 era boards will only accept 2GB maximum RAM, as in the case of my Fujitsu Lifebook E8020 and Packard Bell MV46. Later ones will take 4GB.
I would also have kept the original HDDs. Yes, SSDs are cheap, but with such old OS'es (which likely aren't as bloated as modern ones) the difference won't be as great as running Windows 10 or 11 on a HDD (compared to an SSD). Also, with support for modern Mac OS versions being nil, I can see why the last user dual booted with Windows 7; Windows 7 would be a hell of a lot more modern (and more capable) than Mac OS 10.7!
Though given that modern Linux distros require 64 bit CPUs, your mileage with 32 bit Linux distros may vary.
The SSD swap is more for reliability, as something brand-new will run for much longer than a 17-year-old HDD, even if it is babied or hardly used.
Debian still has a 32 Bit Version :)
I believe the EFI is 32 bit, but the CPU (Core 2 Duo only) is 64bit (you’ll only need the 32bit GRUB, not the kernel..)
You should definitely use opencore legacy patcher for these
Australian Facebook Marketplace is certainly way better for getting bargains than in the USA.
Good work great talent ❤
I had one of these MacBook Pros with the notorious NVIDIA 8600M GPU. Strangely enough, despite putting it through the ringer for many years, including gaming via BootCamp, I never experienced a GPU or logic board failure. Same for the 2011 MacBook Pro I bought to replace it. Of course, now that I say this, my current Apple silicon MacBook Pro is going to bite it tomorrow. LOL
Yours is obviously the revised 603 ones, lucky!
I have the very last gen of this MacBook Pro model with a 512MB vram and 6GB RAM ( real maximum instead of 4 that apple claims ). Great machine. Will need to eventually do the thermal paste on it and purchase a new battery.
ur a massive stud
I still have an A1226. It works flawlessly with 4GB RAM,and OSX El Capitan on an SSD. It still runs TH-cam quite well.
Fantastic video as always. I wish I could find cheap macbooks like this, lately everything has been more expensive
64 bit Linux should be able to boot from 32bit UEFI by now. There used to be a limitation, but IIRC that has been resolved.
Enable trim manually really is prudent when using SSDs on these older Macs
That was a good deal!👍👍
The 32 bit version of LMDE 6 should improve the performance of those laptops.
Those look absolutely great imo, I'd love to get my hands on one of them. Thanks for the video, always good to see good old tech being taken care of !
Ive got one of these with no yellowing in the case to very nice machine and I repalced the dvd drive to.
I have used the 2007 Macbook Pro with a core2 duo 2.4Ghz and 4GB of RAM, still having a original battery that works and holds a charge for about 30-45 minutes. It also had a Kingston A400 SSD that worked absolutely fine with no problems. It was a fine laptop but it was limited to El Capitan so it wasnt really the best experience to use. Now its retired and my girlfriend is now using it with patched windows 11 that works perfectly normal.
With OCLP you might be able to get to a modern macOS like Monterey. But I would imagine it would be.....painful. Maybe the dosdude1 patcher and High Sierra would be a better choice....funny that it runs windows 11 perfectly, of course at its core (pun intended) its just a 2007 Intel PC.
@@imixmuan9081 I tried it but it was a bit too much fuss
The GPU is still alive?
@@laurensnieuwland4657 its perfectly fine
Chromium Legacy works on 10.7 ;)
Also Interweb, and Arctic Fox. But Chromium Legacy is fully up to date Chromium....
had a similar one and faced a similar issue with the machine being password locked .ended finding a way to add a user to the existing install , and deleting the older locked user profile , then everything working already
You can do it even easier than that usually. Older Macs weren't very secure. You could just boot from the recovery partition, open up the terminal and type resetpassword to reset the existing user's password!
Another great video!! :):)
Are you planning to open a museum with all these vintage Macs and PCs?
I kept around one of those that I found in the dumpster, it was a late 2008 w/ the middle-tier CPU and 6GB of memory, and at one time I had it running patched Catalina. As long as you’re not trying to run the Notes app (w/ notes sync-ed from an iPad), everything else runs fine. I was super proud of it running Minecraft 1.14 at 30fps. They feel like a relic compared to the Unibody direction Apple went with
My childhood laptop. I’d love to get one of these for my Mac collection
I recently procured a 2009 iMac 27" and a 2012 Mac Mini to add to my growing Apple hoard. I got the special toolkit and have been enjoying upgrading them and putting them into productive use. They're not easy to work on but there's still a lot we can do with them. I got a Powerbook G4 with 10.2 jaguar on it. Can't wait to get to work on that one. They're just neat.
4:19 I'm so confused af 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Core duo = HDD
Core 2 Duo = SSD
Original MacBook Pro Hard Drive Is Good In Perfect Condition And Stayed Like That, Original MacBook Pro Has 32-Bit CPU, So You Can't Put An SSD Into It!
None Of SSDs Are Compatible With 32-Bit Laptops Like That!
Original Core Duo MacBook Pro Only Support Mechanical Hard Drives While Later Core 2 Duo MacBook Pros Support SSDs!
BX500 Won't Work On Core Duo MacBook Pro!
I Decided That Original Hard Drives Are Still The Best SATA Drives For 32-Bit Intel Macs!
I just love that background music :-)
Please bring back the old macmini videos
Have you ever had a video where you didn't use eucalyptus oil? :D
Cool stuff as always!
I’m still using my silver MacBook Pro, 2008 to this day, please TH-cam Netflix, everything mines running Catalina
Compared to the early ARM Macs, these early Intel Macs suck. But they're still plenty useful regardless, just like the last of the Power PC Macs.
What type of watch are you wearing? I love the look of it 😊
That design is reminiscence of the M1-M3 MacBook Pros
Very nice deal you got there.
Can u please male a video about how to make it usable?Because i have one to
interesting to see the a400 not work. in theory all sata drive generations are forwards and backwards cmpatible. which means you can put a sata i drive in a sata iii computer. or a sata iii drive in a sata i computer.
Australians seem to be very generous with their tech, so it seems. People in the UK love to sell old tech for as much as possible. Cheapest mac I've seen is around £200.
It's also mind boggling the Intel Core i7 is 15 years old, originally released as a 1366 CPU.
i got this exect same laptop
thumbs up for the profile picture moment 🤣
I've got a UK purchased mid 2010 top spec MBP (with the anti-reflective metal screen bevel) with newish battery and SSD which works well. Forever wondering how much it'd be worth watching this channel.
😂
i have the 2006 higher spec model working without the battery
Install an SSD and linux on the Core Duo, add a 8 GB swap partition and it will work way better than with MacOS and 2GB of ram.
For me those would be awesome music players and photo editing machines.
They won't win anyone over that's modern, but apple's older software is great to use
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I havent wached this chanel in a while
I own one but i use a kingston ssd it works for me i have windows 7
I have a 2009 MBP 15 inch triple booster with Snow Loepard Win XP and Kubuntu. I was surprised how easy it was to get Kubuntu on the old Mac and how fast it was with it (SSD and 8GB RAM).
That's a beautiful laptop. At least post op.
If it's anything like your last video. Probably not.
Good for spare parts I guess.
I have the same brand of SSD, they recommend updating
No matter the model or how old it is, if it has the apple logo or if it’s a vaio (idk why) it commands a price of at least $50
you can still use them normaly today you can even put windows 7 on it and i use windows 7 and it's good
Damien? You found the antichrist's laptop! 🤣
No, the laptop belongs to Emkay narrator Damien
I Have A 15 Year Old Inspiron 15 That My Mom Abandoned It, I Finding It And Sending To Your Address!
I had a 2007 MacBook Pro now I have a late 2020 m1 MacBook Pro
Best channel
That thing deserves Linux lite. It's still a formidable machine in 2023
Would you be interested in a "damaged" AORUS 15P WB?
6:58 I thought you were sponsored by opera, I see google chrome on that iPad and again at 8:57
Your lucky i have looked in Adelaide for cheap Mac's but you must be quick on getting them good job as usal
Debian 12 would be great on these
What’s the name of the piano music in the start of the video ?
Nice Seiko Turtle :)
cool vid
I also have this mac atm just got it for 1500 php
Just needs tlc
20 Australian Dollarydoos?!
The 2008 variant of these MacBooks has a GPU that just loves to die 😅
Nvidia 7xxxx and 8xxx series were prone to failure. I have a lot of machines (Mac and Windows ones) that had this GPU died
@@TheotanyaSama i believe it was something to do with the substrate that was used. Later revisions fixed the issue but the damage was already done
Yup the old mac os software is not really usable. Still a really cool laptop though wish I had one back then.
I like to install Linux in those old macs. You can do the same and it will revive those devices
can you make an old macbook ainto a mini gaming computer
you never bought a laptop that's broken. for example i have some with broken motherboard could you fix them?
Those are perfectly adequate for low end emulation.
Where’s the sync feature on Opera for iOS
I had one of these a few years ago, all apps started having question marks and just became unusable. Even when usable couldn’t really do much with it.