Very interesting, I really think the Spirit is moving in this troubled world of ours, your talk reminds me of Pierre Teihard de Chardin I do believe he said something very similar and he also ran into some very stiff opposition but there you go the Spirit will blow where it wills, thank you.
One thing, though; the whole world hasn't automatically been sanctified yet. Only those who have come to Jesus Christ through the Cross. That is the "ultimate restoration" part.
This is an interesting topic to explore for sure. However, quantum physics is not as clear as he is making it out to seem. Many scientists even argue the study of the field itself and certainly do not have consensus on many of the conclusions Steve is making in this video. As someone who came out from the New Age movement, I feel like Steve is drawing more from the conclusions they make about quantum mechanics than the ones actual scientists make. The New Age movement has a great knack for taking a little bit of truth or topics that are being debating in science at the moment and drawing out extreme conclusions from them that no scientists today will tell you is the intention behind quantum mechanics. That is why I urged Steve and everyone listening to stick to the simplicity of the gospel and not get caught in metaphysics, cause much of the time its pseudoscience anyways.
I think you've missed his point. He's not giving a scientific account of how it all happened. He's giving an account of his experience of awe and wonder at the infinite possibility of being that is God. David Bentley Hart's book "The Experience of God" is a good place to start. The thesis is that God is not AN absolute being, but rather absolute being itself.
@@Jordan-hz1wr he’s making un-substantiated claims , I have no doubt there is a lot we don’t know. But a lot of these claims made under the guise of quantum physics are simply new age teachings in disguise , they draw out conclusions and insert their worldview into real quantum sciences and as far as I can see this is what that is. It is terribly sad to see Steve Fall trap to it, I did as well so I know how inciting it can be
@Jayden M yea I do think Steve has the best of intentions but we must always be on guard any one of us can fall into deception ad you said the serpant is craft indeed . I do pray God will draw Steve back to the simplicity of the gospel !
universalism is impossible or else we have no reason to share the good news, and no reason for correction or warnings. Plus you have no reason to disagree, if we all end up exactly the same in the end.
It's what most the early church Fathers believed..read Heavens Doors wider than you could ever believe, by George Sarris, it's scriptural, and it actually honours God
@@johno2655 I think at some point Steve needs to state more clearly and in plain language that their is a distinction between those who are in Christ, and those who simply are not. If he does believe in such a thing as eternal damnation, it is important for that to be worked into the message at some point. He may not believe in Universalism, but a Universalist listening to this can still get a false sense of comfort from his dancing around hard and direct statements. Thoughts John or anyone else on this?
Your views on "universalism" are generic and juvenile. This might throw most westerners for a loop... but for Christianity is to be at all logically coherent, "universalism" is the only end that is possible. Your definition of universalism does not take into account "good free will", self determination, or the nature of being itself. I hate to sound like a broken record, but go read David Bentley Hart's book "That All Shall Be Saved". You don't have to change your mind anytime soon. Ponder it for all eternity if you'd like. Just read it and maybe you'll come across some things that will stretch you. "If God is the good creator of all, he is the savior of all, without fail. And if he is not the savior of all, the Kingdom is only a dream, and creation something considerably worse than a nightmare. But it is not so." -- DBH
Steve finding God's love is way beyond what I can even think . This love truly draws you to a love beyond we can imagine.
I had the great fortune and privilege to attend the Beyond An Angry God conference. It was life-impacting.
Very interesting, I really think the Spirit is moving in this troubled world of ours, your talk reminds me of Pierre Teihard de Chardin I do believe he said something very similar and he also ran into some very stiff opposition but there you go the Spirit will blow where it wills, thank you.
One thing, though; the whole world hasn't automatically been sanctified yet. Only those who have come to Jesus Christ through the Cross. That is the "ultimate restoration" part.
WOW! I love this! I was thinking that quantum physics and Jesus walking through walls was the same thing.
👍👍👍Okay, "I'll take the red pill .. . .
Oh yes, I understand about it hitting the fan…🤔👍🏻
This is an interesting topic to explore for sure. However, quantum physics is not as clear as he is making it out to seem. Many scientists even argue the study of the field itself and certainly do not have consensus on many of the conclusions Steve is making in this video. As someone who came out from the New Age movement, I feel like Steve is drawing more from the conclusions they make about quantum mechanics than the ones actual scientists make. The New Age movement has a great knack for taking a little bit of truth or topics that are being debating in science at the moment and drawing out extreme conclusions from them that no scientists today will tell you is the intention behind quantum mechanics. That is why I urged Steve and everyone listening to stick to the simplicity of the gospel and not get caught in metaphysics, cause much of the time its pseudoscience anyways.
I think you've missed his point. He's not giving a scientific account of how it all happened. He's giving an account of his experience of awe and wonder at the infinite possibility of being that is God.
David Bentley Hart's book "The Experience of God" is a good place to start. The thesis is that God is not AN absolute being, but rather absolute being itself.
@@Jordan-hz1wr he’s making un-substantiated claims , I have no doubt there is a lot we don’t know. But a lot of these claims made under the guise of quantum physics are simply new age teachings in disguise , they draw out conclusions and insert their worldview into real quantum sciences and as far as I can see this is what that is. It is terribly sad to see Steve Fall trap to it, I did as well so I know how inciting it can be
@Jayden M very cunning indeed !
@Jayden M yea I do think Steve has the best of intentions but we must always be on guard any one of us can fall into deception ad you said the serpant is craft indeed .
I do pray God will draw Steve back to the simplicity of the gospel !
How about walking on water and turning water to wine….Quantum mechanics
universalism is impossible or else we have no reason to share the good news, and no reason for correction or warnings. Plus you have no reason to disagree, if we all end up exactly the same in the end.
It's what most the early church Fathers believed..read Heavens Doors wider than you could ever believe, by George Sarris, it's scriptural, and it actually honours God
Steve isn't teaching Universalism. He has said again and again that he doesn't believe in that.
@@johno2655
I think at some point Steve needs to state more clearly and in plain language that their is a distinction between those who are in Christ, and those who simply are not. If he does believe in such a thing as eternal damnation, it is important for that to be worked into the message at some point. He may not believe in Universalism, but a Universalist listening to this can still get a false sense of comfort from his dancing around hard and direct statements.
Thoughts John or anyone else on this?
@@Cliff_Simon he HAS.
Your views on "universalism" are generic and juvenile. This might throw most westerners for a loop... but for Christianity is to be at all logically coherent, "universalism" is the only end that is possible.
Your definition of universalism does not take into account "good free will", self determination, or the nature of being itself.
I hate to sound like a broken record, but go read David Bentley Hart's book "That All Shall Be Saved". You don't have to change your mind anytime soon. Ponder it for all eternity if you'd like. Just read it and maybe you'll come across some things that will stretch you.
"If God is the good creator of all, he is the savior of all, without fail. And if he is not the savior of all, the Kingdom is only a dream, and creation something considerably worse than a nightmare. But it is not so." -- DBH