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Marshall JVM410JS - Satriani Signature Marshall
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00:00 - Intro
00:53 - Clean cleans
02:01 - The rig
02:33 - Not so clean
04:05 - Clean with comp
04:39 - Hot Cake
05:06 - Channel 2 Crunch
06:34 - Jangle
07:31 - Boosted Jangle
08:23 - OD1
09:42 - Mid Shift
10:43 - OD2
12:14 - Les Paul OD2
13:55 - Les Paul OD1
14:52 - Les Paul Crunch
16:28 - Channel v Master Volume
18:04 - 80's Clean
18:44 - Bluesy Strat
19:43 - Strat OD1 & OD2
20:28 - Filth on Filth
21:04 - Closing Thoughts
22:52 - Lay It Down OD2
ATTENTION MARSHALL. PLEASE RE-ISSUE THIS AMP AS PART OF YOUR STUDIO SERIES!!
Please! i want one so bad! its everything i need. from an amp!
They can’t. I know the rep. It’s in the contract. They are always limited. Ps I just won the js version on eBay !!
I pre ordered mine and waited months until it was released. I still have it. I still use it. I don't own any other guitar amps at the moment. This amp was created while using a Marshall 1960B cabinet and that is what I use. It's what Satriani uses too, saying in a video that they didn't work with different speaker options when designing this. I have to say, it sounds more monstrous with the 1960B cab than it does with the cab used here. I like what I am hearing here, but the 1960B has been my favorite cab for decades and it really brings out the character of this head.
Side note: Former Marshall CEO and chief engineer Santiago Alvarez said in an interview that the Satriani Marshall, which has both Joe Satriani and Jim Marshall's signature on it is the last Marshall released during the Jim Marshall era. It's the last amp released while he was alive and it's the last Marshall amp to have Jim Marshall's signature on it. Other amps that have his signature today were first released prior to the JVM410HJS.
It's true that the 2 OD channels are the same, but as seen here, they can be dialed in quite differently.
@Gearslayer WOW! that sounds promising! NAMM 2023 is in April. Maybe they will have a surprise for us!
I was fortunate enough to purchase one of these heads and for a steal of a price. Without a doubt my favourite rock amp. I love that the OD channels are more open than on the regular JVM because it gives more versatility as one can always boost those channels to compress them. This amp is a real keeper.
I know. I’m so glad I got mine. It is *very* hard to find them now. I plugged mine in just yesterday and was struck by how intensely wonderful, glorious, triumphant it is to work with, and LOUD it is even at 2. 🤓
Satriani never disappoints.Super high quality Ibanez, Super high quality Marshall.
The tones you are getting out of this amp is what it is all about. I have had this amp since 2012, preordered and have a low serial number one. Folks, this is what this amp sounds like in person. They also get way better after about 2 hours of playing when everything is hot.
My HJS is S/N M-2013-33-0085. Does that mean Aug 2013 manufacture date and number 85 in the production run?
Leon I’ve always thought you were a killer guitar player, but your legato playing has gotten SO greasy good!! You’re definitely my favorite TH-cam guitarist by far!! Thanks for all you do!
That's super kind, thanks mate. It's one element of my playing I'm consistently working on - any time i watch someone like Tom Quayle or john Cordy I'm back to the woodshed!
I agree. And I feel I can read people pretty well, and he just seems like a guy you can trust and his opinions. I just look away when I see the PRS 😅
I love mine. It's my favourite amp of all time. So many delicious tones packed into one amp. So easy to dial in those organic Satch singing lead tones.
Sadly, it's no longer in production.
I can’t understand why something so good would be the exception rather than the rule.
THE ONLY THING I DON'T LIKE ABOUT IT IS IT TAKES 2 MEN AND A BOY TO CARRY IT HAHA
@LeonTodd, more QC here :D. When you engage the Crunch RED you have the loop on and probably the FX Return Level on the back is set high so you have a volume boost. Otherwise the change in levels when switching channels is minimal.
Also, yes, you are very right that when lowering the channel volumes it gets darker (except the Clean channel). It's designed like that to remove a bit of the high end when playing at bedroom levels. The Crunch channel has bit more of filtering than the OD channels.
Thankyou! I didn't even realise that with the fx loop. The crunch channel on this is so satisfying. Now i need to try find a YJM100 !
@@LeonTodd and an AFD100 and a 2203KK ! Come to Hong Kong and you can try the original prototypes of some of those... 😎
@@santiall73 I've always wanted to visit HK so we may need to make that happen!
@@LeonTodd just a few hours from 'down under', pretty much no jetlag either :D
Great riffage and killer sounds LT! Superb demo of this awesome discontinued amp. You made it really sing brother. Kings X forever!
Music, music I hear music!
Nice review! I actually bought one after hearing the Axe FX2 model, first time shredding on high volume actually brought tears to my eyes, it sounded that glorious :)
Those Red Barchetta chords! 🤘🏻
This amp made me stop shopping for amps. As part of a midi rig it is mega powerful! Nothing else like it. And weather you know it or not the Marshall tone IS the sound you hear in your head. Think back to the greatest guitar tones of the past 60 years.
MARHSALL, THE INDUSTRY STANDARD...ALL THESE BOTIQUE GUYS ALWAYS SAY "SOUNDS JUST LIKE A PLEXI"......
Damn Leon, love your lead phrasing. Also that LP + SD1 tone was SICK.
much appreciated!
What a cool demo and cool amp. I would live on the Orange channel and red! Very cool.. I loved the mid button you pushed in.. That rocked!
Drinking my first cup of coffee and trying to wake up.. Loved that OD 2 channel that you played the lead on where you added the delay post processing. Very cool..
Thank you for being alive the same time as me and allowing me to hear all these filthy guitar noises I love first thing in the morning sir! Very very cool..
Hope all is well and that you have a great day and better weekend sir! Tell your family hello from the heartland (Indiana USA).
Tim
This inspired me yesterday to deep dive into the FM9 and tweek the JVM Js. The results were amazing.
yeah the Fractal model is so good!
I wanted, and still want, one of these so bad it's like an ache. But it's just beyond my means. Joe is an absolute tone wizard and this amp reflects that I think. Just glorious.
Btw…. Fractal units have that amp in!
Yeah his signature is all over the glorious mids on this amp. A treat!
That sounds mint with the tv cab ... Might have to get one of those for it 🤘
:D
Amazing as always my bro! That's one of my favorites amps ever!!
Those creamy mids!
Also, I’ve used the same SD-1 for about 20 years. It doesn’t colour the distortion it just gives you more. I wish they would fit one inside the ampppp! Lol! Great video and playing
Totally agree!
Nice man, a lot of people reckon the signature model is a big upgrade but meehhhhhh. I prefer to have the higher gain JVM with the awesome digital reverb it comes with 🤟
I love my 410H - not sure why gear snobs thumb their noses at it. Pro guitarists use them. I bought one after hearing Jason Hook's live tone. 13 years later, and I still love it. It's like an all tube Marshall modeling amp.
10 band EQ in the effects loop and you can sound like anyone.
I've got both a stock and a modded JVM410HJS and absolutely love them both. It's worth noting that OD1 and OD2 are exactly the same on this amp so you can have differently EQ'd versions of the same sound. The Mid Switch lets you basically toggle between the standard JVM410H's OD1 and OD2 voices. So, options wise, this is sort of like a six channel amp.
I HAVE BOTH AND MY STOCK ONE DOESNT SOUND AT ALL LIKE MY JS SO, I GOT RID OF THE STOCK ONE.
I could use about eight of those...... I'm not deaf enough yet! I said I"M NOT DEAF ENOUGH YET!!! Sorry. I'm not yelling, my lips are moving.
HUH?! I CAN"T HEAR YA MATE
@@LeonTodd 🤣
I was really surprised with my jvm. It’s soooo load and soooo good. Best amp purchase I’ve made
It's my current amp...... yes it does not do the ultra high gain thing as well as the regular JVM, and it definitely needs a TS type of boost to chug, as any gain past 5 tends to become too wooly on the bass, but for leads it really cuts through, and the noise gates work very well. It's a dead silent amp !
Can't forget that the 410H and HJS are still 100 watt Marshalls, despite their multitude of knobs and switches. They sound best with the Master Vol at least at noon, preferably at dental appointment time (two-thirty) 😁
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*Jingle!* *Jingle!* *Jingle!* I'd watch your videos without the sounds of a kitty collar in the background... but those little tinkerbell sounds definitely make me smile Every. Single. Time. =^_^=
:D
Btw this amp sounds best with a G12H-75 creamback!
I had that amp, paired with a Gibson Les Paul Classic Plus. Such an amazing sound with that combination!
This and the JSX120 sig amps are definitely synonymous with Satriani's tonal preferences. Richer and vocal-like mid range like you said, and quite tighter on the low end compared to the regular JVM. The cleans are more fun to play around with this version, no doubt.
Also I find it interesting that OD1 and 2 are carbon clones of each other. It's an uncommon design choice but I can see why they did so with Mid Shift switches. Makes sense if you want separate high gain rhythms/leads without actual circuit differences in a live setting
I mean isn't that what Petrucci did with his JP2C?
@@Eliphas_Elric can't say I looked into the JP2C myself. I recall finding a supposed schematic for it once but I never really checked it closely because I wasn't too interested in it for my own collection of preamp presets for a VST amp sim I regularly use
i have the jcm 900 mkii ... its my first tube amp and i paid 300 euros for it ... amazing tones and a amazing deal
You kicked ass on it. Might take a look at it!
My uncle has a country place that no one knows about. He said it used to be a farm, before the motor law. That's where he keeps this amp.
🤣
Interesting cab choice! Mine is paired with g12t-75 based 1960a, it gets even more Satch like.
If you want it to get more metal out of it, go vintage 30s.
I adore this amp.
Amazing job demoing it!!!!
Leon, you have the most expressive face ever. We know within seconds, without words, when you're completely digging something. :)
I'd love the real thing, but the closest I'll ever get to this is the Satch JVM in Amplitube. But they did a REALLY good job of accurately modeling Joe's personal amp. If you can't find the Marshall tones you're looking for with this amp, there's something with you. :)
love the face at 14:46 !!!
Have a Silver Jubilee and a DSL100. This one is next on the list. Fingers crossed one comes up for sale within the next 5 years lol
Owned both and finally modded the regular JVM putting in a choke and making the gain more useable. Finally sold my regular JVM and bought a Kemper and the JS sets in a case.
I love this amp. Beautiful tones... If I had to choose only two, I think I'd be happy with two amps... this one and a Boogie Mark IV for my heavy and metal tones.
MY BUD HAS THEM AND IS NOW GETTING A CERIATONE LEVIATHAN.......I AM JEALOUS.
Love that little Red Barchetta thrown in.
Finally Leon!! Thanks for this review.. I owned 2 of this.. One just sell on reverb about 1 month ago.. Great great amp also on fractal.. Od1 orange best high gain sound for me not only for the sound.. With a very low negative feedback the distortion is really smooth and great for legato playing..
I can see why. Awesome amp!
I'm partial to Joe's signature Peavey head... with the XSr™ mod, of course!
I would love to try this one. I thought the regular one was just sterile and I just couldn't get along with it. I've heard that this one is more organic and for a lack of a better word fixes the issues with first one. I'm looking forward to the comparison.
The Satriani model sounds like an amp Marshall should have been offering standard, but other builders had already been making.
The gain channels remind me of the Shiva in the sense that channel up/master down has a *huge* effect versus the other way around. I'd play my Shiva with the channel down and the master up so it sounded less compressed.
The Satch and (unobtainium) Malmsteen Marshalls have been on my list for years... One year I'll have the pennies saved up to get one 😂
Santiago Alvarez knows how to design an amp!
@@LeonTodd Yes he does. There was a rumour floating around that he was back at Marshall a couple of years ago. Was hoping for more product for the 60th anniversary but nothing so far.
Would love a new redesigned JMP-1
Check this out : th-cam.com/video/eou_VWqdzvo/w-d-xo.html
...and this th-cam.com/video/oQBJIFgAgc0/w-d-xo.html
Thanks for the demo Leon 🙂I own a 410HJS, and its really interesting to hear you demo it, and to see how you ran different settings than I do. I tend to end up on a setting I like then am guilty of not experimenting by dialing the gain down etc. I'm sure you knew this, but to the punters out there OD1 and OD2 are exactly the same - which is great, I love that. I absolutely love the red crunch channel, gain about noon, boosted with an SD1 to tighten the low end. With the mids up, its very much like the AFD Marshall sound. I'd be interested to hear from @Santiago Alverez about the similarities with that channel - am I just hearing things?
You're onto something about the AFD Marshall sound, I do remember someone saying that some aspects of that amp was brought into Joe's signature amp indeed.
you are very right. When we were starting to work on the HJS I overhauled the Crunch channel completely and the RED mode was pretty much an AFD clone, later on we 'smoothed' it a little bit but the DNA is there. Initially Joe wasn't 100% convinced but it recorded and blended so well with the band that we left it there. He uses it in a few songs.
Yessss! Ha, nice mixolydian and lydian legato runs 12 mins or so in. Very Satch. This amp is awesome. I think it has a few tricks at the back too!
Satch introduced me to all those musical concepts!
Bought the JVM the year it was released, bunch of guys on rig-talk all bought them in a group buy. Master all the way up in Crunch orange boosted is my VH tone. OD-1 is my favorite. Clean green boosted and compressed is spanking.
My favourite „modded“ Marshall would be my 1978 JMP 2203 with a Legendary Tones Hotmod
Absolutely amazing amp!!!!! Another wonderful feature is the foot controller...you can use it in a "manual"mode, or it can be programmed! And it uses a normal 1/4 inch guitar cord!!! With all the bells and whistles they put into this amp, they forgot one thing.....for us normal mortals that play in bars & clubs, a three way global 100/50/25 watt power option would have been great! Still, a fantastic amp!!
Great demo! I own one as well and paired it with an Orange PPC412. It sounds killer. Channel one takes preamp pedals so well in green mode and in orange mode it really shines not just with the slightest push from certain overdrive pedals but also on it's own. Generally speaking this amp has far less gain in the OD channels than the original JVM, which makes the JS far more usable and tighter. But if you push the OD channels on the JS version as well, let's say with a TS Style pedal or for example the string singer side from a duellist if you're not into that TS mid push, you get really crushing metal tones. Not to mention, this amp is freaking loud... And it's heavy of course... But if you've ever carried a Diezel Herbert MK3 you don't worry about the JVM anymore.
Have fun!! 😊
Herbert 😍
Yesssssss, King's X for the win! 🤘🤠
I think my ears like boxey. Boxey is my jam!!😎
you my friend ,
have great taste
Spot on in regards to the difference in the 410 OD1 Orange and the Satch model. The stock model is just a little more out of control and knarly...which I like and why I let the Satch model go. However I do like the dual Gates and the straight serial loop on the Satch. That said OD1 Orange is where I live on the 410, it's just straight modded Marshall tone. Overall the Satch model is a more refined version of the 410.
I am not a Satriani fan but Joe knows about tone.
Maybe the best all Marshalls in a head combined amp
I have one of these, it’s very picky of cabs, didn’t sound good through my Marshall 4x12” jubilee with Marshall vintage speakers, but sounded god like through my Mesa recto cab. Cause believe or not those two speakers sound and feel different
The slant or straight MESA recto cab?
Great video as always Leon. Any chance of you doing a video putting together some tones with the JVM JS models in the FM9?
Yeah for sure!
I've got this bad boy and love it.
I can see why!
kudos for kings X
I wish they did these JVM amps in smaller inclosures to go on smaller cabs. I'd love a 50watt version in a short head
Too many knobs to fit in a smaller chassis
@@0megalul309 I don't know,. There's a lot of wasted space over by on/standby switches. But even if they offered a three channel and got rid of one of the rows it'd still be intriguing. Heck the 205h with just two channels is probably enough but it's physically the same size as the 100 Watts head
The 410combo is quite small... And the cab they make for that is smaller than a usual 212 too.
It's too bad they didn't build many YJM100 models,that sounded incredible.Thanks again!!
Now there's a rare bird I'd love to try!
I have one, bedroom queen with all the docs and even the box. The YJM is the best amp Marshall has released in years.
I also loved the YJM. I Should not have sold it!
very cool stuff, owned the jvm410 for a while, some great tones, huge almost too much gain on tap, OD1 orange was a favourite, but so much gain on tap , to get the body/warmth from the gain it'd have to be pushed past 11 o clock, but at that point it was already feedback hell =0
the JS adds a really useful noisegate to the mix, and i think smoothens things out a bit more, less noisy perhaps overall
the feature set/possibilities on the JVM is nuts though, sort of like '12' channels , fully midi switchable, i'd say almost like a great buffet of marshall tones/amps over the years (jcm2000, 900, 800, plexi, jmp etc..)
i tend to prefer single channel style amps , JCM800 , JMP style of things boosted with pedals, tape delay in front of a dirty amp is a thing of beauty =0
You do know that OD1 and OD2 are exactly the same channel, they are OD1 from the standard JVM410. The mid shift makes either or both the OD2 from the standard 410, that's according to the Marshall manual.
That makes a lot of sense
Who needs a noise gate? Never used one and use some heavy distortion all the time… good sounding amp though
Just, that backbreaking box,🥵.
Sounds like a tamed jvm. Nutered almost.
@Santiago Alvarez could you please explain why did you decide to incorporate a chock in the JS version vs the regular version? was it a budget or tone decision?
Hi, definitley not a budget decision neither here nor in the regular JVM. The HJS has less gain, it also has different power supply filtering and feedback than the standard JVM (and also because there were so many people asking for it haha) so why not :D
@@santiall73 thanks for replying 🙏 I usually use the JVM in lower gains, I should check this one if it pops up.
So Joe always says all his albums from Time and before are all 100w Marshalls really clean with a DS-1 into them. Wonder if using the clean on these with an old DS-1 can get you close
@LeodTodd. Great Videos! I'm running through the series now. This video made that JVM410HJS sound soooo sweet that I bought one immediately. Unfortunately, I played it with a very similar PRS custom24 and it sounds nothing like yours.
Mine is bassy and not crisp/clear in the low notes. Kind of muddy. The amp looks in great condition with no popping/cracking/static/hum noises. I'm no tube expert at all but my other Marshall DSL20 sounds 100x better in tone. I'll take any advice from anyone on this. :)
What speakers are you using? I'm using 25w greenbacks here and it's obviously a mic'd tone vs what you hear in the room
@@LeonTodd It's a Randall Cab with Jaguar 80W speakers. I was just surprised that my Marshall DSL20 was sooo clear and punchy in comparison. I guess I'll order myself a 1960A today. :) I'm guessing your pickups may also be superior to mine for tone and sustain.
King's X! 🤘
And now he adds "Red Barchetta" to the list of test-songs .. good man!! Good man!!.. Just need some early-80s Gary Moore and we're laughing!! 😀
Corridors of Power is one of my favourite albums, might have to add a few riffs from that :p
@@LeonTodd Corridors of Power?!!! Yes!!! I remember my mate's older brother bringing that record back home and sticking it on - starting with End of the World of course - (this would have been about '81) and it blew my head off .. Awesome!!! 😀
@@TheActressAndBishop yeah Gazza was on fire on that album. I heard End of the World before I'd ever heard eruption and it reconfigured my brain
@@LeonTodd Me too and I totally agree!!! :-D ..
Smokin
Could you review the Joe Satriani Amp Vault Collection ToneX? Wanna know your thoughts. Find it crazy good imo
Is there a cheap version of his signature Ibanez ?
I thought the mid-shift was only for OD1 when I owned this amp. Oh well, I ended up keeping the 410H over the 410HJS, but both kick serious ass!
Yeah they're very much different amps. 410H can absolutely crush!
I own the regular 410 and found I didn't really like the sd1 with it.. I know crazy huh? But what I do like is the mxr il diavolo with it... that od is criminally underrated.. I'm shocked nobody ever brings that od up.. and yes I agree.. od 1 orange is where the magic is in both these amps
Funny you say that, I have one as well and it sounds better with an od808 than an sd-1
I love how you knew instantly the higher gain shredding with the Les Paul PAFs was "hot garbage" Leon, lol! Spoken like a true musican.
Being a newbie to Marshall...I never knew Joe had one? I thought he had a peavey Sig amp back in the 80's?... Out of all them you've shown us...this sounds the most versatile.
Peavey JSX was early 2000's I think. Absolute killer amp as well!!
@@toast180ugly as sin tho.. lol. The PV JS is a great sounding amp.
@@TVoltG Lol spot fucking on hahaha, that thing is all edgy early 2000's NuMetal design, it ain't winning any beauty pageants xD
@@toast180 I had one for many years, I took off all the chrome logo crap when I had it. I did score a great Les Paul on a trade for it. But I wish I kept it.
What's different from the standard JVM410H? My standard JVM410H is my go to Marshall amp, and I was never interested in JS tones.
Serious question.
Different channel voicings, output transformer choke, noise gates, no reverb. Clean channel is a lot cleaner. Crunch channel is very different. Comparison vid soon.
ABOUT TIME!! THE ULTIMATE MARSHALL!!! I HAD BOTH AND SOLD THE STANDARD ONE BECAUSE THE GAINS COULD ONLY GO SO HIGH WITHOUT SQUEALING..BAD...THE STANDARD SOUNDS TO COMPRESSED AS THIS ONE SOUND NICE AND OPEN A LITTLE LOOSE FOR METAL BUT A GOOD PEDAL SOLVES THAT IN A HURRY, IT IS A METAL MONSTER AND EVERYTHING IN BETWEEN, I PLAY LOTS OF SESSIONS AND FIND THIS AMP TO BE THE BEST OF ALL WORLDS..BUT HEY THATS ONLY MY OPINION I AM GETTING A CERIATONE LEVIATHAN I WOULD LOVE TO SEE YOU FEATURE THAT ONE ALSO. GREAT WORK LEON AS USUAL SORRY FOR THE CAPS THEY ARE LOCKED ON...I KINDA WISH MY LEVIATHAN HAD THE ...HURMPH...PU$$Y TRIMMER LIKE THE KING KONG HAHAHA..I HAVE OWNED MANY MARSHALLS SO IT ISNT LIKE THIS IS MY FIRST ONE.....THOSE OF US WHO OWN THIS AMP KNOW...HAHA
A WORD OF ADVICE...DO NOT PUT JJ TUBES IN THEM!!! SVETLANAS I FIND ARE BEST OR NOS WING C.
Could you make some tonex pedal profiles and make an A-B blind test for us? 🙂🙂
I've profiled my favourite JVM410H tone and posted it on the ToneX cloud, I'll do the same for this if i get a chance.
@@LeonTodd cool!!!! but I don't own a tonex pedal yet... so I would love to hear a comparison between the real satch amp and the tonex ... and I guess many would 😄😄
I love my peavey JSX
Main difference is the CHOKE !!!
I put one in my standard JVM... and sound like a real Marshall ❤
too bad, all you needed to do was turn up the MV on the standard. JS appreciates having his name on your amp tho.
I added the c83 bypass, choke negative feedback mods to my JVM and got it push the power section harder like an 800. It sounded too constrained stock.
I've always thought the JS sounded WAY better than the normal JVM. Sadly out of production. At least we will always have it in our Fractal units!!
TAKE IT FROM A GUY WHO OWNED BOTH AT THE SAME TIME THE JS IS SO MUCH MORE!! I STILL HAVE THE JS......
Try the Taurus Drive from Poland.
Also Jims 45 from TCelectronic
Cheers!
I wouldn't have called that hot garbage necessarily. More like four-day-old hot leftovers 🤘🤘
Lordy!!!
I don’t get the hype around this amp and especially not the ridiculous prices they’re fetching. Satch only uses these as a pedal platform anyway, so not sure how much anyone can read into his input on the OD modes. A modded 410H has more versatility and options than one of these at a fraction of the price.
I kinda hate the riff at 13:05...
It sounds amazing no matter the gear...
Gets a signature Marshall
Use cheap plugin for whole new album
????
PROFIT
Troll Satriani
Not a fan of this one. Regular JVM sounds better to me.
The amp has a total different personality than the regular JVM. I'll never get rid of my blue one and would definitely buy a second one (even if it's just a regular black one) on principle alone.
@Leon, what did you think of the noise gate?
The gates do their thing pretty well! No nonsense.