Brisbane's 6.3 BILLION DOLLAR Plan - You Won't Believe What's Coming!
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- Explore Brisbane's public transport system, including its new trackless tram and underground train tunnel. Learn how the city is striving to reduce its dependence on private automobiles and become a model for sustainable transportation in the lead-up to the 2032 Olympic games.
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REV - The Global Auto and Mobility Show from Deutsche Welle
Report, Camera and Edit: Joel Dullroy
#brisbane #DWREV #publictransport
00:00 Upgrading Brisbane
00:27 How Public Transport Moves the Planet
00:52 Brisbane, Queensland, Australia
01:14 Underground Highways
01:39 Robert Dow, RAIL Back On Track
01:51 Michael Kane, Royal Automobile Club Queensland
02:33 Journey Share Public Transport Brisbane
02:50 Historical Pictures Brisbane
03:17 Brisbane Buses
04:23 Brisbane Train
04:40 Glass House Mountains, Queensland
05:42 Brisbane Ferries
06:45 The Gabba, Brisbane
07:00 Cross River Rail Brisbane
08:44 Metro Trackless Tram - ยานยนต์และพาหนะ
Is Brisbane increasingly known as Meanjin, as our reporter @joeldullroy says?
Here are the facts:
Australia's public broadcasters ABC and SBS started including indigenous place names their broadcasts in 2021, including Meanjin: www.sbs.com.au/nitv/article/do-you-know-what-aboriginal-land-youre-on-today/ytff85vi1
Some Queensland Government department use the name Meanjin: www.oqpc.qld.gov.au/acknowledgement-country
The name Meanjin is used on some Brisbane ferries, as seen in our video at 11:45: th-cam.com/video/1OXieTXxOFY/w-d-xo.html
And many people who support the use of indigenous place names use Meajin in their social media posts.
While there is debate over the use of the name, it is clear that Meanjin is becoming more widely used, as stated in the report.
Nah. Brisbane is the name given to the city by the people who founded and built it. Meanjin is just a small part, the name of a geographical feature, I think where QUT and the City botanical gardens are. If the Turrbal/Jagera had founded the city, I would happily call it Meanjin. However they never built a settlement there.
As a Brisbanite I can confirm, Meanjin is not a thing. Quite a few Councils and Government departments acknowledge the land and the people on it, without any intention of changing the name. Also, it is a reach to include the unsubstantiated claim that more people are using it in social media posts. Thus, to argue that the name is more widely used is (with respect) rather disingenuous.
Thought he was going to say BrisVegas.
@@robb5642 That's more widely known & used! 👍🤣🤣
It's a respect thing. The info is there now, and if people choose to show respect to our First Mobs, then they can.
Matt is right, Meeanjin means spear shaped or pointed (in my understanding) and refers to the point of land at the base of Brissy where the gardens are.
Kurilpa is another name being used more by some - a name for the flood prone area of South Brisbane/West End named after the Kurilpa/water rat (which isn't a rat).
Brisbane as a modern city covers a much larger area.
The Cross River Rail will help to ease the problems with Brisbane’s train woes, but the Meanjin line (Brisbane Subway) from Toowong to Hamilton via West End, Albert Street & Kangaroo Point is desperately needed to address this. A fast/high speed rail between Brisbane and Gold Coast, Sunshine Coast and Toowoomba/Ipswich will truly evolve the city and the surrounding regions into a true megalopolis
And they should build the Sunshine coast line via the new Caboolture west Development and build it via the Northwest Transit Corridor and Moreton connecter corridors.
As well as extend train lines to redlands city, Samford, USQ ipswich etc
Totally agree on the fast rail, however, there has been toing and throwing o this for over 15 years now and still nothing...
@@62Deepblue agreed. I mean, i do think the Gold Coast line is pretty fast as well as the existing North Coast line south of Caboolture, but a lot more still needs to be done
Don't believe it!
As someone born and raised in Brisbane. The main reason for not taking public transport is a number of factor (A) our public transport network is incredibly segmented, to get to anywhere that is not metro, the amount of transfers I need to make is ridiculous. (B) as the video stated, low frequency and inconsistent public transport schedules. I can't count the amount of times a bus was late by 15+ minutes, and when it finally shows up, it's so full they won't even stop at the station and I need to wait for the next late bus. (C) Public transport is becoming incredibly cost ineffective. At an average of $4.5 per trip and having to make two trips or more a day, you're spending an approx $45 dollars for just the work week alone. When compared to the trade-off of private car travel, while it may cost a bit more, you are saving much more time (in most cases, saving half the time or more in travel).
I can't say what the answer is definitively. But fare cost and time are the biggest factors in my experience why I won't take it. If it was significantly cheaper to outweigh the compromises of public transport I would take it more often (plus would also reduce fare evasion by a whole heap)
couldn't Agree more with everything you have said!
The fares are a real thing. Apparently the council subsidises something close to 80% fares. The Greens are pushing (federally) for a nation-wide 12mo free public transport trial; I'd love to see that personally.
Spot on.
Thanks Anson, we appreciate the thoughts from a local and the added value you gave us here!
If the buses are too full to stop I don't think the problem is that people refuse to use public transport.
I recently moved from Melbourne to Brisbane, but one thing that I love about here is that public transport is far more accessible than it is in Victoria. I use a motorised scooter whenever I go out and getting it on trams is basically impossible for me to do on my own. Brisbane bus drivers are so much more willing to help, and the whole ramp system on trains is far superior than in Victoria. I really hope this continues as Brisbane expands its public transport network
melbourne is in that goofy state where it is trying to appear advanced but is clearly lacking in a lot of ways, whereas brisbane and sydney (at least according to what i've seen) is always improving regardless of their status
it's kind of disappointing as a melburnian that although we don't have the olympics like brisbane, we still are hosting the commonwealth games in 2026 and even so there should still be more investment in developing the public transport especially as we are going to be the number one city in australia in size
I am Brisbane born and bred. While our public transport systems are rather clean and tidy, more would regarly use public transport if it was not so expensive - compared to driving your car. Also, the outer suburbs are not connected enough. Using public transport would take me over an hour to get to my sisters place across the river because the bus goes into the city then out again crossing 4 zones! By car it's 20 minutes.
Public transport would be more appealing if we’re actually quicker than driving a car.
Public transport in brisbane is super cheap compared to most countries in Europe that I've been to, and even in Amsterdam it's faster to drive than catch a train. I think we should add a ring line around the suburbs to make it easier to travel between the suburbs though, I think it's quite annoying to have to go into the city and back up.
What Brisbane truly needs is a couple of semicircular ring lines connecting each of the different rail branches. Firstly an inner ring that links the Cleveland, Logan, Ipswich Ferny hills and Caboolture lines without need to go into the city centre. Then secondly, a line that links the Gold Coast with Beaudesert, Springfield and then finally on to rosewood station. Oh reinstating the old Beaudesert branch would be great too. The rail corridor is still there.
And get those station platforms all raised and gap closed so that unassisted boarding for those on wheelchairs will be a matter of fact.
@lwf51 Brisbane does have an inner circle bus line, imaginatively called the Circle Line. 😂 Hiwever it is more of an inner circle. Really only services areas with about 10-15km of the cbd. It’s every half hour (or at least was back in my bus catching days) and from memory is the 598 and 599. If it were replicated a bit further out it’d be a great boon to residents further from the cbd.
Excellent idea
@@rmar127 it’d be fantastic if it were replicated with more reliable service too - maybe it’s because it’s such a long route and the delays add up for stops towards the end, but I’ve always found these routes particularly unreliable. I once waited an hour and a half for the 598 before giving up!
Brisbane already has half a CBD rail loop complete - South Bank, South Brisbane, Roma Street, central and Fortitude Valley stations form a semi-circle around the CBD. They could complete the circle by building a tunnel from Fortitude Valley under the river to Kangaroo point, Woolloogabba and then back around to South Bank Station. This would create an inner city loop, and all train lines would go around the loop clockwise, and anticlockwise before heading back out the way they came.
Born and bred in Brisbane and have never heard it called meanjin.
Same here matey.
Depends on who you surround yourselves with and what you allow yourself to learn
@@teekay3983so it’s Mons fault for not heading anyone use the term? Truth be told, outside of social activists, no one uses that name.
Something that I have appreciated moving from Brisbane to Melbourne last year was the substantially better thought out and connected public transport down here. Trams and trains go almost everywhere, it's fantastic. Tram in the inner CBD is also FREE! Crazy
But public transport in the rest of Victoria is below standard, however it seems as though almost every rail project Brisbane builds must cater for the entire South East Qld region too. Heaven forbid Brisbane builds something the people of Townsville can't use.
@@BDub2024no it's not? Brisbane is not free for example lol
@@BDub2024 I never said it was "special" did I? Just pointed out a major positive difference between Melb and where I used to live
@@BDub2024 nah perth is too hot and not having access to proper water reservoirs is a big no no
Brisbane hasn't changed much. The Olympics are coming in 9 years, now someone notices. It's like magic 🎩 ✨️
The metro and cross river upgrades where in the works way before getting the olympics ! It was triggered by the extra air port runway !
i still have PTSD
When I visit Shenzhen I love the fact that a subway station never seems more than a couple of hundred meters away, if not just around the corner. Fast, clean, cheap and frequent. Much easier than having a car which is slower and then you have to park it somewhere!
When I visit the Gold Coast I love going surfing. We should definitely have that in Brisbane too. Shenzen has >10M people but who's counting. 😅😅
Planning with a capital P. China has BRAINS which they use. In the West all capabilities are now focussed in corruption, china used to publicly execute these people and I can’t wait for us to catch up.
having lived here for the commonwealth games and the world expo, I feel confident that brisbane will still be unremembered except as a humid sprawl, even after the olympics.
Yep. Very boring place to visit. OK to live.
@@ScubesFTW affectionately nicknamed brisvegas with maximum irony.
As a Brisbane resident I think you’ve articulated our public transport problems really well. Brisbane’s growth has not been managed well at times. Our oldest suburbs have trains, but the next big wave of growth included the tram network to about ten km from the city. When this was removed in the late 1960’s the bus net work which replaced it was not fit for the growth to follow. Without massive resumptions of land and displacement of people train lines couldn’t be added. This means there is a huge gap in train lines around the southern suburbs of Brisbane. So all transport is carried by road.
Our local and state governments try to encourage the use of bicycles, but for most people this isn’t realistic. Brisbane is a hilly city- especially the inner city- so the level of fitness required is more than most people can manage. Additionally there are limits on taking bicycles on public transport which don’t help.
"Our local and state governments try to encourage the use of bicycles" -- yeah by mandating cycling helmets/hats, which were abandoned by Mexico, Boznia-Herzegovena and Israel, when they realised that most people who would hire bicycles don't carry hats around with them just in case. Australia is a hold-out in the failed mandatory helmets experiment, and only self-importance keeps it holding on to that absurd and counter-productive requirement. Give it up, Australia!
Thanks for watching and your comments. Cycling is a great way to reduced traffic and keep healthy but infrastructure needs to be aligned with it
We still have more flat areas in our inner city than some European cycling cities. Safe infrastructure holds us back. Hilly areas would then see an uptake of eBikes.
@@DWREV Hilly and sprawling Brisbane has a hot, sunny and humid summer, and glary sun right through winter. You could get very sweaty and sunburnt cycling every day.
There's also a missing link in the main northern bikeway - around Eagle Junction and Clayfield, and the City Council last year axed plans to complete it, mainly because a NIMBY group with connections to a local real estate agency kicked up a huge fuss.
@@DWREVcycling to work? In Brisbane? 30 Degrees C and 88% humidity in summer at 8:30am? No mention of Brisbane hills or northerly headwinds either.
Brisbane had a railway bridge at Indooipilly from the 1890's and another one designed for electric from the 1950's. Encyclopedia Brittanica 1968 " Brisbane has one of the most efficent Tram systems in the world ". Also, the trams involved in the depot fire were mostly over 40 years old, it's illegal to use a bus over 20 years old.
Good to know!
"Trackless trams" .....so fancy buses...source someone from Brisbane 😂
Nah it's the METRO. (Picture, Paris, New York ไ TOKYO ไ) ........BCC and QldGov spin doctors take a bow.
Interestigly some cities are moving away from the bus-tram configuration and back to rail trams.
even in a world like Blade Runner (flying cars) every cities main mode of transport (metro) should be trains, with all other systems feeding into them! I only used that example because Chicago wants to build air taxis when it needs more metro trains and rails
The gridlock of traffic and lack of public transport can be blamed on the originator of Brisbane's traffic disaster, going back to 1971, Lord Mayor alderman Clem Jones, who took pride when he abolished the Brisbane trams system under heavy protests from the Brisbane public. This was the start of all Brisbane's traffic problems. In 1971 the trams never ran again in Brisbane. They should never have been abolished and Brisbane is paying for it now. But that's the left for you and it all happened way back then with the congestion and public transport problems never being fixed; just getting worse over the past 50+ years.
Brisbane River has a great network of pathways suited for skates, bikes, scooters, e-skateboards, electric mono scooters and lots of other alternative transport modes. Get your skates on Brisbane.
Are hot pants required?
@@DWREV Hot pants are definitely not required. Space pants 👖 on the other hand….
I lived in Brisbane in 1984-2000 when the train network was so minimal it was almost useless. Back then everyone was talking about circle/ring services to go from one suburb to another without having to go into the city centre. Can't believe that still hasn't been sorted out - the train network looks the same as back then! Now I am considering moving back to Brisbane but not sure I can live there without a car.
I live in Brisbane and have for decades been primarily a bicycle commuter. The one thing not mentioned is the ever expanding system of bicycle paths. 40 years ago there were none, now there are several alongside the creeks, freeway and train lines. Again like the public transport lines they don't well serve the fringes but it is possible to hop between them using the road network. Many more cycle paths are needed along with a true underground but Brisbane's population has now just reached the density to demand it. Time to get to it. -I'll stay on my bike tho-
Brisbane has got a whole lot of other things to sort out if it's going to be on a par with Sydney and Melbourne. Try getting something to eat or a coffee after 2pm. It's like ok lunch is over, everyone can wait till dinner now !! Meanwhile people all over the place looking to get something while they're out shopping or doing business. Same after 8pm, Ghost town !! I moved from here to Melbourne 17 years ago and came back a little over a year ago. Culture shock. It was like going back in time 10 years. Don't even get me started on how many train stations are an accessibility nightmare for anyone in a wheelchair. In 2023 this is unacceptable.
Family member moved from Bris to Melbourne and says you cannot get a coffee there before 8am. We definitely seem to have more of a breakfast culture in Brisbane.
@@VanillaMacaron551 not true at all
I live in Brisbane, public transport is great.
Ngl as a gold coaster reliant on public transit Brisbane is not bad. Everything I visit even visiting the outer city, is so much easier. 30 miss wait doesn't sound bad for a bus when you're used to hour long waits.
The ONLY advantage my city has over brissy is the tram.
All I want is a train line to maroochydore or nambour. So painful to get to the sunny coast otherwise
Yes. Yes. And yes!
1000%
Nambour has a train line.
@@buntafujiwara3586 meant to say noosa not nambour whoops
@@ianedman9739well, they already are planning a line to maroochy right now.
Go Robert! I love RAIL Back on Track.
On the whole, not a bad assessment of the issues Brisbane has. As a resident its getting better, but far far far too slowly.
Thanks for watching
The cost of a one way fare to the airport in Brisbane is about 15 USD for a 17 km journey, which takes 40 minutes and had a headway of 30 minutes! The cost of a 28 km journey from Auckland airport to downtown is less than 3 USD. Headways are about 10 minutes. Brisbane policies want push people to drive. Drop the fare to 10 AUS, drop the time to half and people might use it more.
It is privately run. The government is possibly negotiating with the private company to buy out the rights to the line early.
Yes it's ridiculous and should be cheaper!
What you do is buy a go card and then just bin it when its negative
Yeah I remember wanting to get from the CBD to the airport many years ago by train. It was about 5.30 pm. The sun was still up. The staff at the station said I had already missed the last train. I couldn't believe it. What's the point of a train to the airport if it doesn't serve EVERY flight? Hopefully it's better now.
Perth has a decent airport link too. No more than $AU 5 for 18 min journey of 11 km.
Informative video. As a Brisbane person since 1976 I can assure you that nobody who lives there calls the place "Meanjin." Secondly, there are two railway bridges over the Brisbane River, the second and older one being at Indooroopilly in the inner-west.
There are three river rail bridges in Brisbane.
There is the Merivale Bridge in the city which was the one you showed in the video, there is also the Albert Bridge(named after the previous bridge which was named after Prince Albert son of Queen Victoria and later King of England) and the Indooroopilly Rail Bridge(previously known on Wikipedia as the Nameless bridge because it really doesn't have a proper name like every other river bridge in the city and is still kind of conspicuous in this sense) both at Indooroopilly.
They head south-west towards Ipswich, they do mostly carry cargo to be fair but they connect the entire west of the state to Brisbane.
Olympic Games have never solved the systematic issues for any city in the world that has hosted them.
Maybe not, but they certainly helped sydney.
Sydney got MUCH improved infrastructure and train services
It’s a valid point but previous hosts saw a dramatic improvement in their public transport system
When it takes the Olympic games to start thinking about how to improve the quality of life for the people in your city...
I liked the public transport in Brisbane, it really depends where you live I think. I found it easier to go to shops and libraries etc. in Brisbane than in London, where I live now. I think what brisbane needs is better connections to more rural areas and better connections between suburbs.
Are the costs of public transport comparable between Brisbane and London?
i use the brisbane public transport, mainly buses but also trains fairly frequently and i dont think its really that bad tbh, usually its on time, sometimes a few mins late but it gets me where i need to go
I have no idea 🤷♂️ what there talking about the services in Brisbane IMO and experience are fantastic a bus passes my house every 15 mins at peek times ! And worst case every hours till aprox midnight every day ! This have been the same story living 5km up to 15km from the city !!!
I’m not going to say don’t upgrade brining it on but I think this give the service a rap it does not deserve !
Indeed as someone who lives about 5km to the South of the CBD Public Transit is something I have never really had a problem with, and Its only going to get a whole lot better when these projects are completed for those of us who live in that area.
During peak hour I currently have 25 buses servicing 5 different inbound routes between 7 and 8 am, which all stop within a 3 minute walk of my house. Its almost too many really.
The problem as I see it is all 25 of those buses go through the city, about 15 of them terminate in the city with the other 10 terminating in the valley after going through the city.
While no expert I think it would be better if they alll terminated at Branda or the Gabba, then went back in the other direction, making the inbound commuters change to the new Metro/Underground rail stations. I don't think it would not add very much if any time to the city bound journeys, if we had to do that.
Bruh.... It is very well known as brizzy😅
brisbane got rid of the tram and then makes silly bus trams
build a new rail tunnel under the northwest transport corridor between Strathpine & Alderly and then connect it to cross river rail via a tunnel connection.
Brisbane's problem is its so hilly.. Rail is the future.. Need more Subway's and maybe Rail will become popular again.. Brisbane has a very disjointed Public transport system.. People get sick of the lack of connection's and so they just drive cars instead..
Endless suburban sprawl equals a very hard place to service with public transport. Need to dense up in strategic corridors along the train lines, also build more trains etc.
I never knew the greatest kid show city would be ranked 1# in its country...
I would love to see a new frequent bus service run between Brisbane Airport and the new Cruise ship terminal via the DFO, Doomben station and Northshore Hamilton.
Electro_Sykes are you a city planner?! full of great ideas
@@DWREV Actually, I am just a 15-year-old who is into town planning, Engineering, Aviation and DJing. My Grandad used to work in the Railway, actually. And i often use public transport to get to school and my commute sucks, so thats why I want to make a difference.
@@DWREV i would love them to extend the 327 bus from Toombul, through the AirportLINK to merge it with the new 24 bus route. Merging these 2 bus routes will allow for less transfers.
When high density areas don't have frequent bus services why would somewhere with such infrequent high demand as a cruise terminal be a priority?
Brisbane Metro is probably the most over-hyped project in the history of the country.
IT'S LITERALLY JUST BUSES.
Cross River rail brings us only two (2) new stations.
Sincerely, someone who actually lives here
It does sound pretty overhyped. Perth will be spending about $9 billion ($3 billion planned) on its metronet and instead of getting 60 new busses, Perth will get 41 trains that can move at 130kmph and carry 1200 passengers, 23 train stations, 72km of train tracks plus a few other upgrades to things like train crossings and bridges.
My view on the whole thing is that there is no point spending money on a public transport system if it isn't faster than driving, It might as well be flushing money down the drain if you can't get from home to work 20km away in 15 minutes.
Thanks for watching
I think you might find its actually worse than that unfortunately. The train lines that urgently need more capacity are Gold Coast/Beenleigh, Redcliffe and North Coast. But the way they have built Cross River Rail; the lines that will actually be getting a capacity boost are Cleveland, Ferny Grove and Shorncliffe. The Western lines to Ipswich and Springfield are the best in Bris but are stuck in a bottleneck just to the West of the city because they have to merge until the Gov build a short tunnel to Roma Street.
@@thetrashmaster1352 Not sure if this is what you meant, but Brisbane isn't just getting 60 new buses for 9 billion.
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The Perth Metronet is more like the line duplications in the outer south side Cleveland and Gold Coast Lines (To increase Capacity in that area), Gold Coast light rail Extension, and extra trains the QLD government are spending money on to support the extra capacity once the line duplications are compete.
Things which are occurring, but not actually mentioned in this video.
This biggest single cost of the Brisbane Metro is actually another underground tunnel in the Brisbane CBD designed to pull most of the buses off the streets above.
Excellent work! Shared on THE Brisbane Channel's community page as it's so well researched and put together.
Thanks for watching! and sharing the love!
A bad connection can ruin a whole day, maybe even make you depressed for weeks.
i do agree that the "brisbane metro" is a temporary and honestly more in place just to have some form of system in time for the olympics considering rail infrastructure suffers delays (mainly in english speaking countries since they decide to do things the hard way unlike france or spain which sure they still have issues with construction developments but they dont get those huge 100 billion pound inflated budgets like the uk/usa does and australia suffers this often as well although not as bad)
also the fact that getting a train from the cbd to gold coast last time i checked takes 90 minutes when a car takes 60 is crazy, this has nothing to do with the train having to stop frequently as even the uk has shown a train route with many stops will still be faster then cars, but more so the quality of the rail system itself as i've seen from a satellite map the rail ways seem to have a lot more sharp turns then what you see in other systems, im sure there's other contributing factors as well but really i would want to see a project where getting from the sunshine coast to the gold coast is brought down to 90 minutes by train which is very possible and doesnt require state of the art high speed rail considering the close distance between all three cities, consider it a mini-version of the dream melbourne - canberra - sydney hsr connection
The most clickbait title from DW I've seen 😂😂
well thank you ;)
Hoping this will be implemented in the Philippines much more aggressively. Unlike Jakarta or Bangkok, Manila is too car centric esp most of our politicians and civil engineers studied in the US. Cars itself is not bad, but its unfair that they are always the priority 😡😡. For me the solution should be
1. Increase road tax
2. Improve public transport
3. Allow rowhouses / mixed density neighborhoods with business centers within 1km radius. Ban low density US housing.
Single family zoning robs the taxpayers.
You cannot build high density townhouses in hot countries as heat builds up between dwellings and limits airflow. Building high and low rises, and even double storey houses in hot countries is also not recommended as hot air rises, as well as the dwellings being above the tree line without natural shade. Air-conditioners will be a must. Hot countries need to build spaced out neighborhoods for air to flow through. Limit the amount of fencing where hot air can get trapped, and cool air blocked. The house should preferably be single set, brick with tile floors. The front and back door aligned with a wide unobstructed hallway connecting the two for greater pos-neg air flow. Undercover outdoor seating areas on both the morning and afternoon side of the dwelling. The house to be surrounded by shady trees. Try a swimming pool before turning on the AC.
I live in outer Brisbane in Logan and i use cars outside of the city. But for getting into the city and around the city i always prefer public transport. Cars are great when there isn't any public transport, but if there is it's cheaper and easier to just use a bus most of the time.
Brisbane suffers numerous devastating flood events.
Numerous?
Honestly Melbourne has the best public transit in Australia. They got rid of cars in half of the streets in the city by making the trams free to ride. Outside of the city, the train network is so extensive to most of the suburbs with buses connecting to the final miles.
Just visited Melbourne from Brisbane last week and totally agree. Hopefully Brisbane will improve in time but it's just not there yet.
But no train to airport! Nah, pathetic and overrated.. 🤦♂️🤪🤡👎
60hrs is nothing compared to Sydney where the average commuter wastes 200 to 400hrs a year stuck in grid lock not to mention the extortionate toll prices.
That’s bleak, Sydney not a public transport friendly city?
I reside on Brisbane's outskirts. I heard the name Meanjin only a few months ago
The other problem is the price of public transport. It is cheaper to drive my car to work than it is to catch the train.
@@electro_sykes I’m with you there. The tunnels are outrageously expensive, $6.30 one way. It’s worth mentioning it don’t work in the cbd. If i did I’d ride my bike but it’s not for everyone, particularly in summer.
this is always a driving factor
@@spinksy9 my parents hate paying the price.
It's not that expensive is it? Far cheaper than cities like London. As it should be.
@@newbris Yeah, I moved to London from Australia and it's much more expensive. You could be paying 15-20AUD just to get to work, and no continuations between bus and train, so if you have to swap you'll be paying even more.
You should also consider the cost of the car and the registration when calculating the costs. Even in London it's cheaper to use public transport than own a car. Worst case scenario, you can catch an uber if you need to go somewhere with less access, and it still ends up cheaper.
Brisbane's biggest problem with transport is shown @11:09 , they give away licenses like weetbix in qld, and then every time there's an accident, and there's a lot, the 5 towies show up, ambos, cops all the people involved in the accident, then all of a sudden 4 lanes become 1.
We have the most expensive licences in the country, perhaps the entire world. It's EXTORTION
Glad to hear the Swiss are building the metro vehicles. I lived in Switzerland for 5y and their public transportation system is one of the best, if not the best in the world.
@lwf51 The tram lines were not all ripped up. Every now and then when road works are done the old lines are exposed briefly before being covered by new seal. Recent road work on Gympie Road in Kedron (where they are putting in Bus Transit lanes) briefly exposed the tram lines in the road centre, which had been buried underneath about 200mm of road sealings.
Having spent some time in Germany paticularly Berlin you guys do public transport much better. I don't think they know how to get that right here in brisbane. Perhaps because they spend way more on road solutions for cars.
Public transport is a way of life in most European cities, but could you see that mindset jumping abroad?
@@DWREV The new rail projects are a step in the right direction but there is little cooperation between bus and rail. Rail is king when it comes to public transport and buses should only be necessary for final approach. Also they are very mean here with discounts for regular users. There would be more incentive to use if they gave generous monthly pass discounts.
That’s utter nonsense that the busway couldn’t accommodate light rail - who told you that, the Brisbane City Council? The Queensland State Government specifically designed the busway system to be upgraded to accommodate both buses AND light rail.
Thanks for your info
As long as people don’t like the general commuting city public, they’ll avoid public transport.
The cross river rail project shouldn’t skimp on tunnel support structure and expense in the hope that natural tunnel rock support is consistent the entire way through (saving untold budget funds).
One pocket of clay/sand/silt could prove disastrous.
what if we build a new underground line branching off from cross river rail at Woolloongabba through to Carindale, then elevated through Capalaba to Victoria Point. Then we should also build a rail line branching off from cross river rail north of Roma street, running underground to Alderly and then at grade and elevated to Albany creek/Eatons Hills and then to Warner. We also need to build a new line to Browns plains via Acacia Ridge, a new line to the Sunshine Coast, which is already planned, but i would extend it to Noosa via Coolum and Sunshine coast airport. Extend the Gold Coast Rail line down to Tweed Heads and the Light Rail to Coolangatta Airport and build a new rail link to the proposed Caboolture West Development and fast rail to Toowoomba.
I think the Cleveland line should be extended to Raby Bay, Victoria Point and then hook around to Capalaba. The Eastern Busway needs to be extended to Capalaba too. I agree with an underground extension to Carindale and Garden City. The Sunshine Coast is planning a light rail to connect Noosa, the airport, Caloundra and Nambour to the new Maroochydore CBD, where the new Sunshine Coast line will terminate.
Underground rail rapid transit is the way forward, as proven by cities in Asia. Australian capitals like Brisbane need to commit more in rail infrastructure so as to cater to the inevitable growth in population that follows post-Olympics.
@@jayfielding1333 According to a recent study, both Brisbane's Northwest Suburbs as well as the Redlands are the two Districts in SEQ that really lack access to both Decent Public Transport and Major Arterial Motorways.
good and interesting ideas
@@DWREV hah, even a Teenager knows where to build most infrastructure.
Amazing city. Easily the best in Australia.
Yeah....Nah
Let’s build an inner metro ring and a new rail tunnel to the north for the high speed rail to Sunshine Coast.
Usually the reason any significant infrastructure decision is made in Brisbane is that someone lobbied government and/or made a generous donation.
the Olympics are playing a major role in the upgrades
Brisbane has a radial rail network which enables journey to the CBD and not cross-circumferential travel. More cross-regional, cross-suburban rail lines should be built to enable travel from one suburb to another suburb without going through or to CBD. A rapid regional rail connecting Toowoomba, Sunshine Coast and Gold Coast with Brisbane CBD and the Airport should be built on the similar line of Paris RER, the German s-bahn or Delhi RRTS. Parking spaces should be reduced at train stations and train stations should serve as bus depots to high frequency bus networks that dive deep into the suburbs to address last-mile connectivity.
good info and interesting idea!
I can't think of anything Brisbane needs _less_ than a turn at hosting the Olympics... except maybe for a giant sinkhole to open and swallow half the CBD?
I'm all for smart investment in public transport infrastructure, but I'm not convinced this qualifies.
Bread and circuses.
Worst rate of homelessness in Australia with absolutely no hope of improvement due to the priorities of lobbyists, investors and big business creating infrastructure such as these projects to encourage tourism.
Great video mate❤
Well there are two ways to look at it. Either better public transport. Or building a lot more cheap fare parking garages downtown. Maybe the parking garages would be more cost effective.
bruh not trackless trams 💀 just make it a bus or a tram stop trying to do something different
Brisbane resident for 20 years, never heard it referred to as Meanjin, except by reporters or government.
Brisbane needs more park and ride stations to encourge people from the outer suburbs to use public transport for part of their journey at least. Large car parks either free or very moderately priced.
You can bet QLD and Brisbane will make the wrong decision, they have a long history of always getting it wrong...
Too right. The die was cast in the 1950s-60s when they decided to use Los Angeles as a model for Brisbane's town plan. The city is _designed_ around private car use. That's why Brisbane's public transit solutions are always half-baked.
The smart thing to do is take 1 lane away from the existing motorway and toll road system and repurpose it as a light rail corridor. The infrastructure is already in place, bridges tunnels etc. The existing motorway users would soon get the message as they sit in bumper to bumper gridlock as these light rail vehicles go wizzing past at 2~3 minute intervals doing 120+ km/hr. You heard it here first.
Increasingly known by some perhaps. First I've heard it used. Maybe I should get out more. Good review btw, interesting and relevant.
if i was building and designing the metro vehicles, i would have added two extra modules (or carriages) to carry more people.
Metro is also planned to go to chermside, but i would like to see it sent up the north west transport corridor.
more frequent or more capacity, make up your minds. why they even have city centers in this day and age of work at home, fast internet, video conferencing, just crazy if you ask me
Great video
The changes to Brisbane are going to set it up for the future.
You think bne is bad...try the regional cities. Townsville is a basket case of incompetence, even taxis barely bother
ha ha - this is hilarious :) I havnt laughed so hard in years. Thankyou!
Our pleasure!
One issue not identified with fhe Brisbane bus services is that the speed of fhe buses is too slow, even though they have a dedicated busway. Journeys take fsr too long from dormitory suburbs to the CBD, so everyone wants to work from home rather than be jammed into overcrowded, slow moving buses for hours every day
The big problem on the highway is people who merge we need a lane where you have to drive to the end eg if you get on the highway at Beenleigh you can't get off till Brisbane City
agree, queenslanders cannot merge; they think its some personal attack to let a car in front of them. More awareness has to be made about the zipper method of merging to keep traffic flowing and drivers to not loose their mind over loosing 3 or 4 meters to another driver.
Adelaide would like some public transport upgrades please
any plans for this?
Ferries are great but they don’t solve the problem of moving people from where they live to where they need to get to, like work.
Yes. The main issue is that busses and trains don’t connect.
Many do on the northside, bus to the stations like Kippa Ring, Sandgate, Kallangur
Amazing. Keep it up qld govt
I live in Brisbane and use public transit or walk 100% of the time. If someone offered me a free car, I would reject it. Why unnecessarily deal with parking, petrol, insurance, etc.? The public transit here is excellent, and I have lived all over the world. People shouldnt move to a distant suburb and then complain about public transport. Live in or near the city and you can get everywhere you need to be very easily. Kudos to Brisbane City Council! Now, if they can only get rid of all the homeless people then this place would be super great! 🙏
QLD should make it that car licence holders are able to ride small capacity scooters similar to other states and Brisbane should do a push to try get more scooters on the roads. Many countries throughout Asia have rules like this and it helps with congestion in cities with far larger populations.
Define “ small capacity “?
The 50cc scooters one can use on a car licence are an outright danger, and I would strongly recommend against them. A postie style 125cc engine would be the minimum required, but that means getting a motorcycle licence.
Interesting idea, scooters do bring their own advantages and disadvantages, could rush hour deal with 100’s on the roads?
@@DWREV What do you mean by "could it deal with 100's on the roads?"
If the local Brisbane council changes to Labor public transport will be free and when that happens public transport uptake will go through the roof
we can hope for free public transport
Did anyone else clock that this video did not infrastructure mention cost?
Under spending on infrastructure has been a national issue for decades. Moderate and sustained spending would have kept the blowouts and debt under control and kept pace with growth.
A problem seen in other Australian cities?
They should have kept the trams and things probably would be a lot better today. Also there is too much focus on road infrastructure instead of public transport, which is in dire need of fixing.
The worst part if the brisbane network is the single track cleveland line for sure, it has the most delays and obviously cannot run express services, with the highest frequency every 15 minutes. This will heavily bottleneck the cross river rail, this line duplication has been needed and promised for a decade now….
Bit disappointed there wasn’t much mention of the active transport infrastructure changes. The state govt have been doing great work in recent years, but the city council need to step up and fix all the missing links and broken connections. Getting into the CBD itself from the south or west is still a quagmire!
what is so interesting in the CBD that you can't get anywhere else these days? that's what they need to get rid of, city centers!
Thanks for watching and the feedback
@@johngreydanus2033 Well I imagine some people still have jobs in the CBD. Not to mention the fact to get to the other side of the city you usually have to go through the CBD.
These connections are VERY poor right now
@@discbrakefan There are tunnels and toll bridges but people are too cheap to pay for them. About the jobs, yes, but I read a theory years ago, that with technology, there would be no need for huge, centralized city centers and buildings. So, what happened? It never evolved as they imagined, except for Covid, when it showed people can operate and work locally rather than gathering in an office, and yet we are going back to the old ways.
Do you have a definitive method for rating cities? I ask because there are many people that would disagree with Brisbane being the best in Australia.
Really? What do you mean?
@@DWREV You claim it is the best city, or soon will be. What criterion or criteria is that based on ? Is it too hard to understand for you ?
Horrible humidity.
@@DWREV terrible public transport especially between suburbs. every journey requires travel to the cbd; its not unusual for me to plan a journey and it have 4 or 5 transfers and travel time of 3hrs with lots of walking. For a city that is apparently built on bedrock tunnels so far have only ever been used for tolled car tunnels. When i lived in an outer suburb i would spend close to $100 per week on public transport and that was a few price rises ago!
@@68404 get back in your cave!
The problem is the narrow minded Brisbane centric thinking of QLD Labor
Qld has at least 3 other cities which could take up the demand of growth in the state, yet they rather keep building up a single city and letting it sprawl over the South East, compounding the limitations of Brisbane.
Ipswich was once supposed to be the state capital, yet has the slowest development growth in the South East.
The sustainable future is decentralising development in Qld and spreading it across the other cities. Especially ones that aren't covered in hills and mountains that are expensive to develope around.
That's an interesting point! Would make transport to the city faster too, since instead of having 1 huge city, you split it between 3 or 4.
"Trackless Tram" is basically an electric bus. 🤦🏽♂
It's a great place.
translohr is the best system what we have in europe it,s new bus and trolley can be ride also on this traject.
I ❤️ Brisbane I ❤️ Queensland I ❤️ Australia!🙏🇭🇲💒
And also .. no one calls Brisbane "Meanjin"!!
Maybe they should
I’ve lived in Brisbane for about 20 years and not once have I ever heard anyone called it “Meanjin”
..even if they did meanjin would be the land, but the city is Brisbane.
Don’t be surprised if the PC state government start an agenda to change the name. They did it for Fraser Island, they’re now trying to do it with “Dingo”. The city is Brisbane, it won’t change.
hmmm...Meanjin-vegas? hard to get my mouth around that one
Brisbane should be much better for public transport - cross-river rail✅, metro (bendy buses)✅, *removing* bus priority lanes on major roads & Council *refusing* to restore them❌, busway is great, but far too small❌, ferries ✅
5:30 not quite true. There is rail crossing at Indooroopilly
Thanks for pointing this out!