That's actually so true, they really are poller opposites. Steve: this figure sucks. Diego: this figure is fantastic. (Nothing against either of them, just thought it was kinda funny)
I guess both Steven and Diego represents both sides Steven = represent the criticizing side who is taking things very seriously Diego = representing the happiness and finding the positive side of figures
I've been collecting SHMA since the very beginning. It's clear that the line is being neglected. The Monsterverse figures especially have the absolute bare minimum of effort for a "Bandai Tamashii seal of quality" product. When we get stuff like Gigan 72' and then these It's like there are two separate entities working on SHMA. As a result, expectations are painfully inconsistent. For the prices of these, it doesn't feel good. I went from completionist to apathetic over the course of the last few years due to how the line has been handled. Countless reissues, hand grenades, inconsistent paint since the first release, and then some. I wouldn't call Steven's reviews irresponsible. I call it the outcome of a man who's been consistently let down by the same company. Steven definitely has a crass aura to him, but it's that cynicism that makes his reviews more meaningful to me than say DiegoDoom, who I feel is very soft on his reviews. Steven at least makes me reconsider my purchases, which is the job of a reviewer. The problem with the complacency is very real, but it's primarily with the manufacturer. Bandai Tamashii knows that they hold a market majority, and until Hiya and Super 7 can establish a foothold especially in non-US markets, people who want "premium" articulated Godzilla figures have to get the SHMA. I'm sure SHMA is one of the most expensive lines to produce, and quality/variety continues to decrease as prices continue to increase, a classic problem. I see this as a Bandai Tamashii problem that's trickling down and becoming a community problem. Bandai obviously wants as many people as possible to buy each release but with the sheer amount of reissues/repaints/declining quality it only creates discourse for the more dedicated collectors, leading to this.
Just commenting to say that I appreciate your thoughtfully written-out opinion. Steven's actual reviews I find informative, it was more so the discussion of this specific video that I found lacking.
I think Bandai is simply taking advantage of the monsterverse in a different way, for example maybe they don't put max effort in monsterverse figures but go above for older toho figures, because they want to promote toho more. "Yeah monsterverse is cool, but look at Godzilla v Gigan!!" Maybe its just me.
Plus you have all these new godzilla fans because of the monsterverse which also turned 10 years old, so it makes sense to rerelease old figures like Space Godzilla and Biollante.
One of my biggest problems with Steven as a content creator, is that I find that his reviews often feel clouded by the fact that he is a reviewer that feels like he has to buy everything. Not everything is for him, and I think he knows that, but he would rather just rage in a review
@@redskull378 yea, but be buys every. single. one. Of course hes gonna feel uninspired when its his 6th time looking at a figure when he wasnt even a huge fan the first time.
@@redskull378 But thats already setting himself up to be disappointed because he reviews rereleases. Theyre not necessarily meant to/promising to improve anything he didn’t like the first time.
Man that unboxing was brutal lol Other than the last Shin release, I've always been so lucky over the years to never have anything fall off or have tight joints. It's always shocking to see unboxings like this
I kind of see both of your points. STR commenting that they haven't improved the accuracy at all after all this time is valid, and that does really make these feel like more of a cash grab. But for some people, that doesn’t matter, and they're just happy to get these molds because they couldn't before, which is also valid. I do still think its important to hold companies to a higher standard, so i completely understand not being satisfied with the very minimal updates they did, for Kong specifically
Hey! That´s my comment! I know my comment came out as a little contradictory, I think that negativity is contagious, but still, that´s no excuse. What I meant with the cash grab part is that there was room for improvement and time to make it, but it wasn´t made, and it is a bit frustrating. But to be fair, it is something that other companies are also guilty of, Hasbro for example (And I´m a big Hasbro consumer). I am not a stickler for accuracy, but I also think that little things can go a long way in letting your consumers know that you care and listen to them, it is always nice to see when a figure comes out, it has an issue or a common complain from the audience, and then the company tries to fix it in future releases, and I feel something like that could have been made for both of this releases, especially since they are two of the most iconic movie characters of all time. But even then, I love that Godzilla mold, it is probably one of my favorite toys of all time. And I´m still very much looking forward to that Kong. Sorry for the long text, I just felt I had to explain myself a little better because trying to keep the waters calm last time made me come out as a little rude and contradictory. Great video, I think you bring up some very valid and interesting points on the way we wacth video reviews an the responsabilities reviews have when talking about the product. (Also, English is my second language, so please excuse any potential mistakes I made)
I definitely agree with a lot of this, here in the UK we get very little Sh monsterarts stock and I sadly missed out on the original GvK Kong and Sdcc exclusive , it’s so difficult to get Sh monsterarts stuff here if you miss out on the initial run and I’m personally glad that Bandai is releasing another Kong and I’m honestly not too bothered if people consider it a cash grab when it seems like a pretty solid alternative to something I wasn’t able to get
I definitely see both sides I agree with you @Kaijucanuck but I also agree with @stevenstoysreviews some people did miss out but quite frankly when hiya or others exist the poor molds and quality of SH monster arts needs to be revamped or done away with all together because they haven’t introduced anything new is several years and I believe recolors this many years in is unacceptable back to back without improvement. Having a recolor burning Godzilla would be great it would make more sense considering it’s been gone from the market or biollante but this Godzilla model has been the only one provided constantly and that needs to change
My experience with SHMA QC issues is as follows: Perfectly Fine: 2000 SCV, 2021 Goji, 2021 MG, 2004 Gigan Ver 2, SP Goji, SP Rodan, 92 Rodan, 99 Gamera Ver 2, 2002 Kiryu, 19 KG SCV Limbs Pop off easily: 95 Rebirth, Hedorah Paint Defects: Shin NCV- one eye looks up and silver paint on left leg Both: Kong 2021- loose right leg, and yelling face has one googly eye I'd guess i consider myself lucky since i haven't had any figure disintegrate out of the box, but the line has always been inconsistent.
Your constructivism and thought put into nearly every word that comes out of your mouth is very beneficial for your content. You make sure to bring up fair and elaborative points, with as little bias as possible. When there is bias or personal opinion you do at least put it in verbal parenthesis if that makes sense. Very professional take on the situation. I frequently indulge on STR's content for the very precise and detailed takes on the figures, showing their paint applications, articulate range, any issues the figures might have, and things they do very well. As soon as it starts to slip down into the more "Ok review's over, now time to have 'fun'", where I start to remember the more....iffy side of the fire that he only feeds and grows. It's gotten to a point where people can't just enjoy what they like regardless of if you don't like said product. We've gotten to a point that if someone enjoys the product that you don't, then they are just objectively wrong and foolish for making their decision. It's a very unhealthy mindset that I feel he's been doing nothing but promoting. The portion of the video that essentially was "shame on you for buying these monsterarts, you could've given to charity instead" was just a very unprofessional guilt tripping moment that wasn't called for. I'm glad somebody's bringing it out, while at the same time not just saying "everything he does ever is just bad and dumb and blarrgh." Cuz like I said, the more professional sides of his reviews of just reviewing the product for what it is, is amazing. He's very skilled and knowledgeable in that regard, its why I still take the time out of my day to see them when they come out. I just wish the video's and even the engagement outside of the videos was a bit more professional, especially when theres such a significant portion of the community that will take every word of his as gospel.
I will sing praises' of Steven's actual "reviews" until the cows come home. He breaks things down in a high level of detail and his camerawork is great. I share a similar perspective with you regarding the discussion aspect of this video.
I couldn’t agree with you more. I’m brand new into this world of collecting and bought the GxK Godzilla and Kong figures for my birthday. They’re my first ones and, while I can admit that they’re not flawless, I really enjoy them for what they are.
Nowadays I feel like I don't really care for Monsterarts and prefer to not talk about it cuz what they're doing isn't really for me. Talking about it with my friends would probably just trigger a series of rant, cuz by my standards it's not really satisfying. I do wanna say that I agree with Steven when it comes to Kong... to a certain extent. I disagree that the '24 Kong should come with everything from the SDCC one, cuz it's not that Kong. But I do agree that they should reused that Kong's mold for the new scars. Cuz the painted scars doesn't really look that good in comparison to the sculpted one. Hey, they got the mold already, why not reuse a more fitting mold if you wanna reuse something. I am happy that they fixed the joint tolerance issue with Kong, and I am interested to pick it up. I still think SHMA did the better Kong mold, albeit to me Hiya's headsculpt still looks better. What'll stop me from picking this guy up is ofc the price. Yep, this dude would probably be a fidget to me as well, but I rather added something to my flagship collection than a more expensive toy. I would say I'm slightly leaning towards Steven's stance a bit. Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to look down on others nor trying to be a messiah. I'll just be honest, it's for my personal sake, my selfishness. If buyers going to keep the standards low, ofc in some aspects that could be better, it'll effect the later releases, which impacted others who do care more. If ppl should targets the company instead, well... companies are technically moved by the market. The wallets do the voting. Unlike Hiya, Tamashii doesn't really sells the intimacy, so they don't really take the initiative to fix something for the fans when the market is satisfied. Hiya fixed the neck and jaw from Goji despite more ppl simply just want a rerelease of it, cuz they missed out on it. Hiya could just resells what they already got but didn't. Not out of consideration nor care for you, but cuz they are selling another product that you dunno you've bought and dunno you've paid for. And that product is intimacy, with the payment of loyalty. Cuz by the end of the day they still expect you to support their rerelease. Hiya made more repaints than SHMA, but ppl seems to not be as infuriated by it. Even buys them. Tamashii didn't use this model, they don't sell you on intimacy, thus I don't see them as the kind to take the initiative when the market is ok with what's available. Which is fine, they're just not the kind for me, while what they offered could be for you. Hence I just simply moved away from SHMA Godzilla. I'm still going back for MonHun, waiting for Lagiacrus, and would want more Gamera stuff. Give me Heisei Gyaos, dang it. I dunno if this is me seeing pattern where there isn't, but I feel like flagship are generally of lower quality than nicher stuff. I would use example from Bandai's plastic model line. They got this line called HG. It's a line for 12-15cm plastic models that are generally cheaper. It focused more on quantity than quality. However, it seems to me that this only applies to Gundam. As HG for the weaker brand (by weaker in this context I mean ppl who would buy a plamo of) they got better engineering and part seperation (this meant less stickers to compensate for the color of a design). One case is model kits from SRW. Issa game consist of many mecha franchises, but it didn't really had a lot of merch, and their original designs are in obscure, unknown lines made by smaller company. The engineering and part seperation on their HGs are well beyond HG standards. And you kinda see the same trend on other HG lines that are more niche, like Amaim, Code Geass, or a HG-equivalent line like FRS Digimon and Yu-Gi-Oh. I feel like it's because these lines can't support itself from fans alone. Unlike the big names like Gundam or Godzilla, ppl who don't know the names nor typically associating it to said form of merch would probably not buy them. So they lean on to the other market, drawing ppl with something else. For plastic models it's their engineering and part seperation, to attract the plamo enthusiast who cares more for the build experience more than the design and names in and of itself. With figures it's more quality and care. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I feel like Godzilla line didn't achieve feats that the non-Godzilla line often do with SHMA, at least not as often. Gamera had been bangers, MonHun had been bangers, Yu-Gi-Oh had been bangers, all with minimal or next-to-no issues. In comparison the Godzilla ones are servicable or full of issue. I guess cuz the Godzilla name could carry the line, this also caused them to further got no reason to take the initiative. To clarify, yes, MonHun and Yu-Gi-Oh is a big franchise. But most ppl would buy their games/trading cards, not figures or model kits. Their main market isn't figures, but something else. TLDR, I do somewhat agree with Steven, but I feel like I got enough of the negativity that I could just move away as suppose to expect a change in something that never caters towards the type of customer I am. Thus I'll still sticks to Hiya, but would consider SHMA for the nicher lines. Buuuuuut, my god...zilla, Hiya. When will I get my Ghidorah. Man, the distribution of this one.... I've seen some ppl just recently got theirs, do I am waiting still for my turn.... Still waiting, 5 months later. I hope this issue isn't a trend with every larger Hiya figures. At this point I might have to move to China. Oh well, glory to Xi Jinping, I guess
@@kaijucanuck4492 I do have to admit, that how I perceive this hobby sphere now is mostly thanks to your channel and the bois . I used to be more or less like Steven in terms of my pov, heck probably more brutal than him . Especially towards Super7 and SHMA . I realize the fallacies in some of my logic and began to warm up to the stuff I used to despise. Heck, even ended up liking them, like Super7, ReAction and their Shogun Goji in particular . Really appreciate the videos and discourse you brought up. Yes, you and I don't always see eye to eye, but I appreciate the insights I got from you, regardless if I like what I'm hearing or not. I'm at the point in life where I seek a genuine and diverse conversation than stuck in a bubble of yes-man or hate train. As well as simply give out my points and hearing others, instead of engaging in a polarising conflict that aren't supposed to be serious issues . Life is hard as it is, hobbies shouldn't be rocket science . Looking forward to more of you videos and commentarid, m8 . Ones that I could agree and disagree with. I hope more and more people would find this channel, and more fandom follows the example of providing a healthy discourse platform. It's not just lacking here (Godzilla sphere), but everywhere. A Canuck a day keeps the toxicity away
I'm having a similar situation, because I recently bought the monsterarts Shinjuku Battle 1991 Goji. I got it because I love that godzilla design, its the one I've been most familiar with since I was younger than 10. I also got it because I'm in a position where every so often I'm able to spend my money on a more expensive item, and this is the first monsterarts figure I've bought myself. So I watch Steven's review, and I'm being made to feel like I've wasted my money? I understand that folks who collect every single monsterarts figure are disappointed because it's not hyper-articulated like the Final Wars figure, or it's not the exact suit they were hoping for, but not everyone is able to buy all of these things. I see something I like, and if I can afford it I might just buy it. I don't care what diehard collectors think, no judgement towards them, I just want to enjoy my purchase without hearing "Yknow you really should've just waiting for [figure]." All of this being said, though, I have pre-ordered the Hiya 1991 goji, so..
About the jaw not closing all the way on the GxK Godzilla figure, this is actually a thing that’s been around since the 2019 figure. It’s a problem on mine, too.
Thank you so much for taking the time to create this video. I agree with you 100%. It actually amazes me in every single collector’s group, whether it’s Hot Toys, 1/12 scale or Monsterverse, how many people seek approval of what they purchase. What is wrong for appreciating both SHMA and HIYA for what they have to offer. I purchase HIYA for screen accuracy and SHMA for articulation. That’s just the way it is and I like both companies for different reasons. Like art, music isn’t it all subjective? ….” I don’t eye f*ck my toys…” 😂😂😂😂 I’m dying over here! My mottos is always, buy what makes YOU happy. Period. Hell, I am just thrilled that these toys are being made! I am 52 years old and only could dream of such things as a kid. All we had available were the Monogram Model kits back then. For goodness sakes, this is supposed to be fun!!! The customer who spends his or her own money should have the choice without insult. Attacking the customer is pretty immature imo and hypocritical. It seems more personal opinion than an objective and fair review. (Steven) Attacking the customer is a TANTRUM.
@kaijucanuck I have to be perfectly honest. I have left many FB collecting groups of ALL kinds, simply because there was too much “grown” men having these disturbing “man-tantrums” over a toy and honestly, I think that’s something that needs to be looked at and addressed. That’s not normal in my opinion. I just see far too often. It just takes any joy out of it and this type of behavior does not discriminate.
10:10 Of course, how you said, and that is more a problem with me, in specific in my city or others of my state, is that you can’t find even a Playmates figure. And I don’t know in others places in Mexico, but I think here (In Mexico) are so hard to find the SHMA’s figures, and in Amazon, for example, they are so expensive.
I feel like when it comes to comparing products it's only fair if one product does something that others could benefit from (NECA is releasing TMNT figures from the 2012 series and there's somethings I'd love that they took from the Revoltech versions) but I agree that when you're reviewing something you should talk about that product itself maybe compare size and articulation there's no need in saying "see this product does this so much better than *insert other company here*"
Don't agree with alot in the vid but i hear your concerns. The cherry picking point is a bit mute to me when you also go on to do so right after pointing out his negative bandai reviews to make your point, when he has made recent reviews, the SHMA Blue eyes and Tigrex, where he did praise them for releasing good products. I feel that a good reviewer will point out the negative practices both consumers and companies fall into and i feel STR does that and did so in his shma GxK reviews. But hey just my opinion
I’ve always found Stevens reviews to be kinda of meh. Not because of the content, but because he seems to always pick at certain figures and gives very personal recommendations.
I like STR's videos but dont always agree with them. Sometimes he leans a little too much into the memes and negativity. I started tuning out of the unboxings when he began the trend of fake hysterical laughter whenever a part would fall off out of the box. Like, yes I get it, these things are expensive and they shouldnt fall apart, but is it that big of a deal? Also, not a fan of when he makes it personal. Make your value judgement on the products, but theres no reason to extend that judgement to the buyers. Like I said in another comment, I would have been in the market for the Godzilla if I had skipped the GVK one, because it just looks better overall and has more accessories. Personally, Bandai has always kind of dropped the ball with the monsterverse stuff but has been killing it with everything else. So now that we have Hiya Toys as an alternative, I really dont feel the need to be angry with Bandai anymore, because if the product looks bad, I will simply not buy it. Trust me, I used to hate on SHMA when they first started, but they have improved a lot since those days. They absolutely still deserve criticism in places (overpriced, stingy with effects, quality control), but it can be done without the snark and negativity. Anyway, you've earned a subscriber this day! I appreciate your thoughtful commentary and measured demeanor.
Europe context for Spain and Portugal : the GvK is easy to find and its pretty cheap. This isn't a gotcha or anything, I just would like for people to comment on availability in their countries in the replies to have a more open perspective on how easy it is to find these if needed without having to order them online, i have seen gvk figs on stores
@@alexfarmer15 i lived in Madrid and Mansion del terror had a bunch of G sh figures I lived right next to their store and bought my King with them and my Gigan.
I dunno where I stand with this. It's literally just toys, I don't think it should be taken that seriously. I understand peoples frustrations with the SHMA Line, but let's not pretend that Hiya will wipe out SHMA. I own both, and I really like them for different reasons. They go for different things, and sure you can compare them, but it depends on where your priorities lie. But yeah in terms of reviewing, I think it's okay to push a narrative as long as the audience knows what's going on. any one who has watched STR for extended periods of time will know that he is a lot more harsh on SHMA. I do think that he should be more up front with this fact, but It's his channel. I do think people are getting carried away with the SHMA hate, again it's just a toy. If you don't like the product, don't buy it, but also don't shit on people for enjoying something that you don't.
I enjoy you and Steven’s videos greatly, I’m siding with you on this one, even though I don’t like these releases specifically I get how others can and that’s fine, but judging people for their choices just isn’t it for me.
from personal experience, his last two points really struck a nerve with me. The whole gatekeeping of what you should or should not have in your collection and then have the nerve to judge them for it is such an insane attitude to have. It just comes off as a total lack of respect to your viewers and followers who go to your page because they want to hear your input because they trust your opinion. Also his recent thumbnails that include Bandai in them is giving clickbait fandom tourist that the franchise has been dealing with since minus one came out
There isn't gatekeeping. I explicitly stated to buy whatever you wanted because in the end it really doesn't matter, but if you did want to spend your money to join in on the fandom I encouraged you to divert your time and energy elsewhere. Not actually listening to what was said doesn't help the points and understanding them; I addressed points which people brought up as arguments why they would buy these, and counterpoints to something else. So they want my input... On what to do.... It's like taking an issue to do exactly what I do. Review stuff.
@@kaijucanuck4492 No, not really. If you think that clearly you don't watch my content. Rather selectively. "Take a break" from the awesome 1972? Come on.
When i first saw this this vids thumbnail and FigureManiaShow's community post about it, i kinda thought that you guys were kinda just sucking up to SHMA and were upset with steve cuz I've seen his video and how negative he was to them, and I kinda agreed with him and thought yawl were just mad about what he said. But after watching this video I see how wrong i was to assume that, you made some really good points that I wouldn't have thought to consider, like how you really cant expect everyone to already have some figures cuz everyone is different, especially the part about him having more opportunities then some because he lives in the US. (I do too which is why i related with that, I literally found my SHMA19 at a book store, which was so unexpected, and I can see maybe not being so possible in other countries like lets say Canada or the UK, I wouldn't know I don't live there.) So yeah i actually feel bad now for assuming that about you, you were infact valid and kinda just right with your response.
The eye fucking comment had me roaring. Its so true, the tiniest little imperfections can only be viewed by a 4k camera with a god damn lens x10 magnifying lol.
You don't eye-fuck your figures?! My figures eye-fuck me back. I had to get a restraining order on my Blackarachnia. I had to buy the Jada Toys Chun Li to be a bodyguard. Also not too long ago wasn't Super 7 on Steven's shit list? Now that he got the Destoroyah he has his sights on Bandai? Is it just me, or has Steven been relying on there always being a toy brand boogieman lately?
@@kaijucanuck4492 sometimes she's angry when she does it too. It started getting scary ever since I sold my Mothra. And since Chun Li arrived it's been even more aggressive.
Well, I'm not nearly as critical about shma, but just seeing that goji in hand makes me want to get it even more and so far going by my first and (as of the time im writing this) only shma godzilla (the newer 1991 goji) i like the line
I am so glad I had found your channel, you seem like a very level headed individual when it comes to the articulated Godzilla figure discourse. Most of what I’ve seen are people just blindly praising or hating certain companies
i spent over about 80-100-ish dollars (its been ten years i really dont remember) in 2014 money to buy a millenium concept godzilla monsterarts. it was markedly smaller than i was expecting, and came with no atomic breath part. the sculpt was gorgeous and i genuinely prefered it's design to the version that appeared in the film. the wrist joint fell apart out of the box, and the tail fell apart frequently. its filler pieces restricted its articulation, and were floaters. something was always clashing with something else. the figure resisted any real attempt to play with it, and so its mostly a display piece now. it wasn't a bad experience, but ive never had any incentive to go for another release. i think the only time i've ever been tempted were the gamera figures, and the recently released final wars godzilla.
I ended up breaking the Hiya Ghidorah tail and having to super glue it. I’m never buying another figure that requires heat treatment. They can put a man on the moon people, someone should be able to figure out an easier way to attach a tail. It’s ridiculous.
I don't think there was a single Neca, Diamond Select or Hiya figure I didn't have to heat to get the ACTUAL articulation. Hell, I didn't even know Neca Godzilla's had more range of movement back when I got into collection in 2020 until I watched videos about heating them up. I sympathize with that Hiya Ghidorah tail, that was fucking ridiculous. It took me 90 mins using hot water, hairdryer and when those didn't work fucking boiling water to attach them. Cut the shit out of my palm, I and to reshape the socket on both of the tails, even then I put them on the wrong side. I said my peace and for some reason preordered the Gravity Beam one on Amazon cause I'm a masochist. Fucking hilarious!
Man, these horror stories about the Hiya Ghidorah tails make me feel blessed because mine popped in without too much of a struggle. Sorry that happened to you.
(8:12) While I don't advocate for S.H. MonsterArts, at the same time though I don't necessarily hate them iver (im kinda more in the middle when it comes to their figures honestly). Granted I do have two MonsterArts figures currently but I doubt i'll be getting anymore in the near future. However if I was collecting more MonsterArts figures like most collectors, I probably would get the 2024 version of Godzilla. Not just because the colors look cool but also this version of the figure looks like the more classic Toho Godzilla (with the more bright blue and charcoal gray color scheme). And I know it might look lazy to some people to re-release the same figure over and over again, but now if you only wanted to pick one of the figures they have released so far at least you have many to pick from. 🖥🦖🖌📦 (10:52) Dose Micheal from "The Articulation Series" (or anyone else for that matter) know about how well the "Movie Monster Series" dose in Japan too? I know its a little bit unrelated to the topic but still im genuinely curious. Not just for the Bandai vinyls but even for Playmates as well. I don't really hear people talking about that type of stuff, not just about the success of the figures but also on which monster gets sold the most compared to others in the same line. 🤔💸🏪🎁🤷
I only own 3 Legendary SHMonsterarts the 2014 poster version (came with the Japanese release of the movie) the 2014 Godzilla with muto head (atomic version) and the Godzilla vs Kong figure and I don't have any issues with them at all! At the end of the day we chose what makes us happy, I don't listen to movie critique and I don't listen to toy critics either I just take my chances and so far I have no regrets
ok here is my take (first i want to say the tail thing seemed to be your figure mine was on fine and has never once come off ) ok so my thing about his vid is im American the aftermarket has the gvk godzilla pushing 190 usd and i have yet to be able to afford them when they drop i can now but still cant get the old ones because they are flipped for over twice the price. also from what im told by people who did get the others he is better in plastic the joints and is just a better version of the gvk fig nothing has me scared it will break nothing is falling off on me he is solid and i love having him on my desk
Love what you had to say in this video, some of Steven's points are a bit flawed in my opinion. I dont think justification is needed to want to but these SHMA GxK figs. There are collectors who will want to buy various figures, be it Hiya, SHMA, Super7, or otherwise. As long as that collector is happy with that choice, thats all that matters at the end of the day. This is a great example of genuinely constructive criticism.
Look, as much as I used to really defend him, Anthony's Customs is in the same boat for me. He actively tries to be as negative as possible and then will put on this almost pompous persona, like he's better than most toy companies or collectors. I just can't understand why he acts this way? Views? A huge driving factor that wedged me away from him as an active viewer, was when he refused to review the 1000Toys Master Chief from CE, going as far as to actively attacking the figure publicly, making preconceived arguments about its quality, whilst refusing to review the figure. It was quite honestly the most off-putting, disingenuous thing I've ever witnessed in the figure reviewing community. Like, your job is to review the figures, and then you refuse to review the figure, but then have the gal to make notions about it when you don't even own it. I'm just noticing a lot of collectors will jump on these band-wagons latley, whilst not even owning these figures that these toy reviewers are bashing. Learn to formulate your own opinions guys, they're making you like sheep.
Fantastic video, calling out someone’s bs. These recycled sculpts are getting old for an established collector like myself. But as you said someone getting back in or just starting collecting, it’s a great opportunity. I also collect X-Plus statues, I heavily rely on their re-releases since I got into the game so late. Just yesterday they put their 1964 King Ghidorah back up for pre order, I was over the moon!
Why can't we just get the figures we like? Why does there always have to be a problem with people saying, "You shouldn't get this if you have respect for your wallet". When a figure releases. It feels super maniphalative when people say this honestly. Why can't we just get and enjoy the figures we want to? Why is there always a problem with me wanting this? For what I'm aware. This figure has better articulation then the gvk version. Since i make stop motions, this looks like a figure i would really love! I'd be able to do so much with it!!! Thank you for making this video!
As much as I don’t want to see this channel devolve into being a beef/drama channel (and yes I know it’s roots are somewhat in that) , this was definitely a video that needed to be made. It’s completely baffling when figures are reissued and some collectors cannot comprehend that there are endless reasons why other collectors may not have been able to obtain the original. It’s an embarrassing level of arrogance, and Steven is getting worse for it as time goes on
I am glad I'm not the only one who noticed this, I've personally commented on his videos. Carefully with consideration just saying my opinion (not even about him, about the figure) and I get met with a harsh response. It felt as though I had said something wrong, even though I hadn't said anything against Steven at all. I do understand where he's coming from as sometimes you can get carried away with some thoughts and patterns and not see yourself, but I agree, there's a lack of tack when it comes to certain opinions (specifically with you buy whatever you like and you let others enjoy what you don't, if that's their thing) I still enjoy his reviews and overviews on figures, but there's a degree of exclusivity that accompanies his comments. Diego Doom is absolutely fantastic though. Definitely my favorite reviewer 😂.
I've been relatively vocal about my distaste for SHMA, and the majority of high-end collectibles, and I understand where a lot of folks are coming from. That being said, criticizing the individual for liking the thing that they like is not only besides the point, it's immature, and frankly a self report that you don't have a meaningful point to make. A genuine expression of one's opinion shouldn't come at the cost of a fair, honest point. To put down people who like or want to engage with these releases, even though you don't is to deny them the uniqueness of their experience and relationship with the hobby. If you can't make your point without undermining people's approach to their hobby, then I think a re-evaluation of the point is in order. Bad-faith arguments never got anybody anywhere, and that sort of rhetoric has bred so much discourse and hostility in the community. I say this with all due respect, as a person of little to no influence, and I hope that this can serve as a constructive learning opportunity. It's easy to shoot off at the mouth and dig your heels in when you feel strongly about something. I've done it many a time. It's just important to keep in mind the nexus of your argument, so that you can avoid derailing your own point. Just my thoughts, of course.
Well said, Jackson! I can certainly understand frustration with the state of a line, but directing it toward those who support and enjoy the line seems like an exercise in futility.
I think his point of SH Monster Arts is just using these as a cash grab is spot on. look at the night version in the NYC store exclusive. They have the ability to make it better but chose to give use very sloppy paint work and such and call it exclusive just to get a quick buck. If you want it go for it, BUT we should hold all companies to a higher standard, its the same with films amd streaming services and their complete ignorance to what the fans want and are unhappy with the results when people dont watch their product when we dodnt want it in the first place
NCV specifically I think is a bad example because exclusives should be recolours. If they were unique molds, a lot of people would be upset at not being able to get them. But, I take the point around a low-effort repaint with weight, but as I said in the video there have been and still are demands for these molds in their primary markets and it would be almost silly for Bandai to not release these.
@@kaijucanuck4492 yes they should be recolors but with a high degree of specificity and detail. By making is a very bland and at times sloppy paint application it does feel like a CASH GRAB. I mean let's look at the difference with the poster version color of 2019 versus the NYC exclusive. You can see the lengths they went to make the EXCLUSIVE feel like a very quality and unique figure well worth the price. The argument still holds. Also again, WHY didn't monsterarts make a MOVIE accurate depiction when it comes to paint application the first go around and instead we got toothpaste? The movie was basically held up for a year due to covid and they could have gotten the paint down or like Hiya recall their figures. By doing this it kind of spits on our face.
I don't know man, I'm with you on not liking the toothpaste look, but the Japanese market bought them up immediately. It's just a different world over there. The NCV is lost on me, perhaps they thought it had been a while since a "normal" looking version of the mold was out. TAS would have more to say on it, I'm just spittballing.
@@kaijucanuck4492 like I see both arguments, there are people who didn't get the GvK version and don't want the price hike on eBay but for something like this which you agree is just a repaint which should be more exclusive based because it's the SAME mold as you mentioned above, then Bandai should have made a limited run or like Super7 take preorders to a certain date and close it, let whoever wants the repaint get it all the while ALL the other fans could have enjoyed something different from this film that's NOT a repaint or at least very different from previous releases for example the supercharged Godzilla from GxK when he's all electric blue and has all the cracks for blue in his scales would have been a nice addition seeing as how WE have never gotten something like that. Different paint job but drastic enough like 2019 burning Godzilla to where it would make sense for the Majority of fans to go out and buy it. I'm not sure if my examples are getting the point across correctly?
I'm unhappy with the Godzilla collectible scene but I'll explain why. I recognize there's so many new lines and figures being made and they're availability is unlike ever before (I became a fan in 08 I know the eBay hustle). But the quality, or better yet bang for your buck leaves a lot to be desired. The prices are outrageous, even for different IPs in the same line. A lot of the new lines tend to focus on toyetic retro styles which is not my thing. Basically I'm an old man missing Bandai America and early Monsterarts. Revoltech used to make figures you remember that?
I kinda agree this community is getting very negative before we had hiya everything was good because no one I agrueing about winch is the best and now now today if you don’t like hiya to much your wrong, if you like super 7 your wrong, collecting are not instruction or if you collect anything like monsterarts you are wrong according to a few reviews we should be happy we have this much figures and how the community has grown we have such a variety. And also I’m tired of people praising hiya like hiya is not hot toys level of quality or a 1000 dollar statue getting the figures is not that easy to get a lot of figures you are gonna have search a year to get shimo and evoled Godzilla, sure the monsterarts are not accurate but why do you care if care about accuracy so much then get a statue( I know you like hiya but these are major problems that some people have with hiya). I’m not a monsterarts defender either I’m aware of the problems all I’m saying that it’s really not that bad. Super 7 is trying. All I’m saying we are in a good time in the community
I did find it quite odd why people were so upset when these got announced to begin with. If you already have the 2019 release, 2021, or anything in between, these clearly were not for you. I've come across so many people online who didn't get any of the previous releases that are so happy that they finally got the chance to get a copy of this mold. A lot of people clearly like this stylized mold. I can understand being upset that this one got a beam and the other releases didn't, but other than that, I just didn't get it. Bandai is in the game of making money, and repaints make lots of that. Hiya definetely knows that.
I had about 12 minutes of additional footage that I ended up leaving out, but part of it was talking about how these are the forms we see the characters in for the majority of the movie. There is concept art out now showing these versions fighting in Egypt, and they were the first versions we saw Playmates show off at Toy Fair last year. Pair that with the appetite in Japan for these molds and it would almost seem silly of Bandai to NOT issue these.
It’s more the fact that people were never happy with this sculpt in the first place. Even by 2019, it was kind of mediocre and not all that movie-accurate. People have been requesting improvements to the sculpt for almost 5 years and all they got were repaints. When Hiya is not only able to deliver a much better sculpt for a considerably cheaper price, but they actually listened to feedback and were quick to make noticeable improvements in their updated figures, it makes SHMA look lazy by comparison.
I personally feel like, you are representing the lower end of the spectrum, basically, the common customer who has to make his own purchase, and may have different situations (availability, finance) and Steven is at the other end, mainly like a critical reviewer who looks into all the little details, but gives the analysis on a larger scale, not sometimes considering why a customer would, or wouldn't buy a specific unit! NO HATE to anyone! although I do wna see Steven,'s response to this ! AGAIN NO NEGATIVITY/ HATE/ CONFLICT!!!!!!!!
I’ve never been a big fan of Steven, he’s extremely arrogant and overly defensive about any disagreement with him. So defensive to the point where I’m 90% sure he just makes things up sometimes. You could say something like “the moon is full tonight” and he will come back at you with “well actually I’m an astronaut, and have been for 20 years, while I’ve also read every book about the moon, and was best friends with Neil Armstrong, so no the moon is not full tonight, you know nothing about the moon” it’s truly wild! I’ve stopped watching his stuff because of his “I’m always correct and I’ve never been wrong or had an L take ever” attitude. There’s wanting SHMA to be better, and then there’s just being a whiny little baby. If you don’t like the figures, then don’t buy them! It really is that simple! For me Steven’s channel has become watching a grown man whine and cry because his toy he didn’t need to buy (and probably won’t keep anyway) has the most minute of imperfections. Just buy what you like!
If I’m being honest, I think these releases were fine from the start. They did make these for people who missed out on the first releases from Gvk, and I’m happy about that because although the Gvk Kong is still like $68, Godzilla… yeah he’s kinda overpriced now. And I’m happy the Godzilla is a least an improvement with great tail articulation and more accessories (despite the breath being reused) than the first release although it’s a bit more money. Kong is barely anything, but I don’t think people are gonna pick that up. I’ve enjoyed sh monsterarts releases for a long time, and I’m a mad how much hiya has overshadowed them. I feel people only care about hiya because they’re more accurate and cheaper (for the monsterverse), but even though the hiyas probably better, I still enjoy stuff like these from sh monsterarts.
No hate towards you or Steven, but he’s always like “another monstervser pickup☹️” (not an actual line he said” but he also acts like he can’t just sell one of them
So after 4 days of this videos release I thought I’d make a comment It seems that Steven doesn’t take accountability for some of his actions and that he seems to be rude to other figure channels based off what they say about him (this isn’t true most likely but that’s what I got from it) And Steven in the comments is kinda acting petty and childish to this whole video even though you’re more giving constructive criticism then attacking him I’m not saying that Steven is bad nor do I hate him I do love the channel and do watch his reviews for when I’m buying more pricey figures so….
This is a great figure.. but it took Bandai 3 years to give us it. They did not need to release this version when they should have been focused on making an evolved version of Godzilla and Kong. Instead, they played us giving us an old figure with new paint. They stopped including accessories for Godzilla figures that cost 100+ dollars, their paint applications the past few years have been disgusting, teeth and heads sculpts look like crap, and parts falling apart.They either simply stopped caring for this line or they knew that no matter what they put out, butt kissers would defend them to the end still. It shouldn't have taken them 3 years to give us a proper Legendary Godzilla with blue dorsal plates and a freaking beam effect at a reasonable price. Only just recently they've started to put some effort. The only reason why this new repaint has so much hype is because this is what we all originally wanted. Collectors fell for Bandai's thirst trap ways. Yes I'm going to sell my 2021 version and buy this 2024 version to replace it. But that's all it is, is a replacement and nothing more.
I was with you on a lot of points, especially when it came to things like non-US distribution prices (which is a legitimate good point), but when you say there's no issue with a company making a bad product if people are "buying it in droves", I completely disagree. You ask where is the problem, and we are literally seeing it with this release: cash grab re-releases that are no where near as good as they could be, AND 25% more expensive than the prior iteration. Most companies will continue to cut corners and make things worse until it affects them financially, if consumers continue to give and give on standards, it continues to get worse. It's obviously impossible to make a call to action so that no one buys these, but it's a frustrating feeling It's not a "savior mentality", you are objectively wrong to say that these figures are quality. And by quality, I'm strictly referring to the bar set by a multitude of other releases in the SHMA line. Gigan, 1954 re-issue, Blue eyes, Gamera, Shin night version, Final wars, these are all objectively of higher quality than these MV releases. This compounded with the fact that they've been re-released and re-issued so many times, there's no excuse for it. These GxK figures are, unarguably, of much lower quality than other current SHMA, and there is absolutely no reason they should MSRP for 25% more for the exact same sculpt. If knowing all that doesn't prevent someone from buying it, then that's their choice, but you almost make it seem like Steven, a reviewer, should draw the line at paint and sculpt and can't talk about the external elements of these figures. That's a really weird line to draw
1. I didn't say the figures were of quality, I said that they are not of sufficient quality to the people who dislike them while being totally fine to the target market buying them. 2. It's only a savior complex if you think the Japanese need to be saved from themselves. If you don't think this, I'm not talking about you.
@@kaijucanuck4492 Putting a racial aspect on this is weird? It's not a Japanese thing, it's a global consumer thing that applies to everyone. You (not you specifically, i mean in general) should not be recommending people buy a figure that is 25% more expensive than it's last version, that has been re-issued multiple times, with glaring problems. If someone asked me where to start on MV collecting, Hiya is the no brain answer. You're paying significantly less for better with Hiya, and we've seen hiya going in and adjusting sculpt/articulation and re-releasing for no additional cost. SHMA has absolutely dropped the ball on the Monsterverse. These *should* be avoided unless you feel like you *have* to have them
The racial aspect is only because Japan is the primary market, they buy these things up like crazy. I've seen folks (not you) talk about how they don't realize they're being hosed, despite the fact that the Japanese market just really likes these things and don't feel like they're being cheated generally speaking. I'm with you on Monsterverse releases with HIYA, and I'm very curious what will come of their classics line!
@@kaijucanuck4492 Well I do actually think the Japanese might be getting screwed over, but not because of a cultural thing or something like that. I've noticed a lot of SHMA 'alternative' figures are exempt from shipping to Japan, presumably some part of the license agreement, and that they end up being much more expensive to get over there. From that perspective, I can understand the drive for SHMA, it's easier to get and the price disparity doesn't exist. But if you're in the situation to choose, which I think Steven is assuming (and that's fair to say isn't true for everyone obviously), I think a lot more of his argument makes sense
I've been following Steven for years now and my impression about him is he's either one of the unluckiest reviewers who gets the worst copies to review or he's too harsh on the products.
I enjoy watching various reviewers and their takes on the toys. Especially when they can run $75- $150. Everyone has their own opinion as it should be. And if you can afford to buy everything on the market that is great. But most of us can’t. And if you already have a version of the figure and aren’t a collector that has to have a new version only because they changed the Hue of an eye color then Steven is right on saying then pass on it And I think that that is the audience that he is addressing. Older collectors vs new ones. And while you start out with valid points on why people should pick up the latest release you then …. well you start using the tactic that the other reviewer is a bad person and belittling others. And isn’t that just awful. So why the personal attack? To get clicks or promote SHM?
Steven literally makes a point like sh monster arts has been really lazy and using the same mold twice I mean they could have done a little more here but no just give us same figure but with g19 head which I do appreciate but sh monsterarts has been lazy and if you don’t collect sh monsterarts then don’t talk about it
"I don't enjoy conflict, I don't like confrontation" he says while whipping this off before leaving for his MMA training. Anyway, "I don't like this thing and you're a bad person for ensuring that things I don't like exist!" is a wild way to conduct a toy review. If bro resents having to buy SHMA figures to review, that HIS problem. Don't be so audience captured. Solzhenitsyn once said something to the effect that as our material prosperity grows, our divisions have become ever more intractable. We have never had more, nor been more miserable and divided. My pet theory is that when everything is good, there is nothing to say about it. It meets all our expectations and speaks for its own perfection. But the imperfect falls short, and that gap between what it is and what we desire it to be is the space that is filled with bitching and whining about it. And when we have more and more and more that is good, our complaints must get pettier and pettier and pettier. Old soldiers can commiserate, but toy reviewers are enemies forever.
Didn't Orwell say something similar to the effect of the human mind wanting to fight so desperately for something that it will invent problems? Seems like a similar idea.
Glad someone’s finally calling out Steven. He used to be the go to for reviews and he wasn’t insufferable to watch but lately his content has been horrid bait for shma fans. His whole thing is appealing to hiya fans. Every vid he makes on hiya is followed with tons of comments bashing shma and he knows that. He’s no longer credible and you’re better off finding other people to watch. Hes a clown
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*meanwhile*
DiegoDoom: hmm ngl I think it’s absolutely fantastic 💀
That's actually so true, they really are poller opposites.
Steve: this figure sucks.
Diego: this figure is fantastic.
(Nothing against either of them, just thought it was kinda funny)
I watch Diego for the presentation, Steve for critical analysis
I guess both Steven and Diego represents both sides
Steven = represent the criticizing side who is taking things very seriously
Diego = representing the happiness and finding the positive side of figures
@@Godzilla5675I’m on Diego’s side. They are action figures, you don’t need to get mad when a mold is reused
@@ParrotsAccount even if they are cheap kinda
I've been collecting SHMA since the very beginning. It's clear that the line is being neglected. The Monsterverse figures especially have the absolute bare minimum of effort for a "Bandai Tamashii seal of quality" product.
When we get stuff like Gigan 72' and then these It's like there are two separate entities working on SHMA. As a result, expectations are painfully inconsistent. For the prices of these, it doesn't feel good.
I went from completionist to apathetic over the course of the last few years due to how the line has been handled. Countless reissues, hand grenades, inconsistent paint since the first release, and then some.
I wouldn't call Steven's reviews irresponsible. I call it the outcome of a man who's been consistently let down by the same company. Steven definitely has a crass aura to him, but it's that cynicism that makes his reviews more meaningful to me than say DiegoDoom, who I feel is very soft on his reviews. Steven at least makes me reconsider my purchases, which is the job of a reviewer.
The problem with the complacency is very real, but it's primarily with the manufacturer. Bandai Tamashii knows that they hold a market majority, and until Hiya and Super 7 can establish a foothold especially in non-US markets, people who want "premium" articulated Godzilla figures have to get the SHMA.
I'm sure SHMA is one of the most expensive lines to produce, and quality/variety continues to decrease as prices continue to increase, a classic problem.
I see this as a Bandai Tamashii problem that's trickling down and becoming a community problem. Bandai obviously wants as many people as possible to buy each release but with the sheer amount of reissues/repaints/declining quality it only creates discourse for the more dedicated collectors, leading to this.
Just commenting to say that I appreciate your thoughtfully written-out opinion. Steven's actual reviews I find informative, it was more so the discussion of this specific video that I found lacking.
@@kaijucanuck4492 Yeah I mispoke when I said "review(s)" since the conversation is really tailored to what was expressed in that particular video.
Same. On everything, same
I think Bandai is simply taking advantage of the monsterverse in a different way, for example maybe they don't put max effort in monsterverse figures but go above for older toho figures, because they want to promote toho more. "Yeah monsterverse is cool, but look at Godzilla v Gigan!!" Maybe its just me.
Plus you have all these new godzilla fans because of the monsterverse which also turned 10 years old, so it makes sense to rerelease old figures like Space Godzilla and Biollante.
One of my biggest problems with Steven as a content creator, is that I find that his reviews often feel clouded by the fact that he is a reviewer that feels like he has to buy everything. Not everything is for him, and I think he knows that, but he would rather just rage in a review
He buys figures to see if it's worth the price for us to buy.
@@redskull378 yea, but be buys every. single. one. Of course hes gonna feel uninspired when its his 6th time looking at a figure when he wasnt even a huge fan the first time.
@Type3Toys But still he holds hope that they'll improve.
@@redskull378 But thats already setting himself up to be disappointed because he reviews rereleases. Theyre not necessarily meant to/promising to improve anything he didn’t like the first time.
@@Type3Toys Uh… yeah? His job is buying figures and reviewing them to show you if it’s worth it or not why wouldn’t he?
Man that unboxing was brutal lol Other than the last Shin release, I've always been so lucky over the years to never have anything fall off or have tight joints. It's always shocking to see unboxings like this
And I was so careful about it, too!
@@kaijucanuck4492 it was never meant to be… rip attempt to unbox.
🤣🤣🤣 "I spent 2 days in the COAL MINES working to afford this figure!!!"
I kind of see both of your points. STR commenting that they haven't improved the accuracy at all after all this time is valid, and that does really make these feel like more of a cash grab. But for some people, that doesn’t matter, and they're just happy to get these molds because they couldn't before, which is also valid.
I do still think its important to hold companies to a higher standard, so i completely understand not being satisfied with the very minimal updates they did, for Kong specifically
Hey! That´s my comment! I know my comment came out as a little contradictory, I think that negativity is contagious, but still, that´s no excuse. What I meant with the cash grab part is that there was room for improvement and time to make it, but it wasn´t made, and it is a bit frustrating. But to be fair, it is something that other companies are also guilty of, Hasbro for example (And I´m a big Hasbro consumer). I am not a stickler for accuracy, but I also think that little things can go a long way in letting your consumers know that you care and listen to them, it is always nice to see when a figure comes out, it has an issue or a common complain from the audience, and then the company tries to fix it in future releases, and I feel something like that could have been made for both of this releases, especially since they are two of the most iconic movie characters of all time.
But even then, I love that Godzilla mold, it is probably one of my favorite toys of all time. And I´m still very much looking forward to that Kong. Sorry for the long text, I just felt I had to explain myself a little better because trying to keep the waters calm last time made me come out as a little rude and contradictory.
Great video, I think you bring up some very valid and interesting points on the way we wacth video reviews an the responsabilities reviews have when talking about the product.
(Also, English is my second language, so please excuse any potential mistakes I made)
I don't see the problem with the Movie Monster Series slightly reusing a mold when the real cgi character is reusing the old model too.
well, for the most part is the fact the newer releases do not fix any of the issues original molds had.
I definitely agree with a lot of this, here in the UK we get very little Sh monsterarts stock and I sadly missed out on the original GvK Kong and Sdcc exclusive , it’s so difficult to get Sh monsterarts stuff here if you miss out on the initial run and I’m personally glad that Bandai is releasing another Kong and I’m honestly not too bothered if people consider it a cash grab when it seems like a pretty solid alternative to something I wasn’t able to get
I definitely see both sides I agree with you @Kaijucanuck but I also agree with @stevenstoysreviews some people did miss out but quite frankly when hiya or others exist the poor molds and quality of SH monster arts needs to be revamped or done away with all together because they haven’t introduced anything new is several years and I believe recolors this many years in is unacceptable back to back without improvement. Having a recolor burning Godzilla would be great it would make more sense considering it’s been gone from the market or biollante but this Godzilla model has been the only one provided constantly and that needs to change
My experience with SHMA QC issues is as follows:
Perfectly Fine: 2000 SCV, 2021 Goji, 2021 MG, 2004 Gigan Ver 2, SP Goji, SP Rodan, 92 Rodan, 99 Gamera Ver 2, 2002 Kiryu, 19 KG SCV
Limbs Pop off easily: 95 Rebirth, Hedorah
Paint Defects: Shin NCV- one eye looks up and silver paint on left leg
Both: Kong 2021- loose right leg, and yelling face has one googly eye
I'd guess i consider myself lucky since i haven't had any figure disintegrate out of the box, but the line has always been inconsistent.
Your constructivism and thought put into nearly every word that comes out of your mouth is very beneficial for your content. You make sure to bring up fair and elaborative points, with as little bias as possible. When there is bias or personal opinion you do at least put it in verbal parenthesis if that makes sense. Very professional take on the situation.
I frequently indulge on STR's content for the very precise and detailed takes on the figures, showing their paint applications, articulate range, any issues the figures might have, and things they do very well. As soon as it starts to slip down into the more "Ok review's over, now time to have 'fun'", where I start to remember the more....iffy side of the fire that he only feeds and grows. It's gotten to a point where people can't just enjoy what they like regardless of if you don't like said product. We've gotten to a point that if someone enjoys the product that you don't, then they are just objectively wrong and foolish for making their decision. It's a very unhealthy mindset that I feel he's been doing nothing but promoting. The portion of the video that essentially was "shame on you for buying these monsterarts, you could've given to charity instead" was just a very unprofessional guilt tripping moment that wasn't called for.
I'm glad somebody's bringing it out, while at the same time not just saying "everything he does ever is just bad and dumb and blarrgh." Cuz like I said, the more professional sides of his reviews of just reviewing the product for what it is, is amazing. He's very skilled and knowledgeable in that regard, its why I still take the time out of my day to see them when they come out. I just wish the video's and even the engagement outside of the videos was a bit more professional, especially when theres such a significant portion of the community that will take every word of his as gospel.
I will sing praises' of Steven's actual "reviews" until the cows come home. He breaks things down in a high level of detail and his camerawork is great. I share a similar perspective with you regarding the discussion aspect of this video.
I mean the hiya figures look better but i really like how the SHMA pre evolved godzilla figure looks
I couldn’t agree with you more. I’m brand new into this world of collecting and bought the GxK Godzilla and Kong figures for my birthday. They’re my first ones and, while I can admit that they’re not flawless, I really enjoy them for what they are.
Curious, has there been a posable Godzilla figure with an outer "skin" so that there aren't visible joints?
Kind of like an old big GI Joe?
Look up the Mezco Kaiju Collective Godzilla 1954
Thank you for this video. I’ve been saying this but none of STR’s minions want to listen
Nowadays I feel like I don't really care for Monsterarts and prefer to not talk about it cuz what they're doing isn't really for me. Talking about it with my friends would probably just trigger a series of rant, cuz by my standards it's not really satisfying. I do wanna say that I agree with Steven when it comes to Kong... to a certain extent. I disagree that the '24 Kong should come with everything from the SDCC one, cuz it's not that Kong. But I do agree that they should reused that Kong's mold for the new scars. Cuz the painted scars doesn't really look that good in comparison to the sculpted one. Hey, they got the mold already, why not reuse a more fitting mold if you wanna reuse something. I am happy that they fixed the joint tolerance issue with Kong, and I am interested to pick it up. I still think SHMA did the better Kong mold, albeit to me Hiya's headsculpt still looks better. What'll stop me from picking this guy up is ofc the price. Yep, this dude would probably be a fidget to me as well, but I rather added something to my flagship collection than a more expensive toy.
I would say I'm slightly leaning towards Steven's stance a bit. Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to look down on others nor trying to be a messiah. I'll just be honest, it's for my personal sake, my selfishness. If buyers going to keep the standards low, ofc in some aspects that could be better, it'll effect the later releases, which impacted others who do care more. If ppl should targets the company instead, well... companies are technically moved by the market. The wallets do the voting. Unlike Hiya, Tamashii doesn't really sells the intimacy, so they don't really take the initiative to fix something for the fans when the market is satisfied. Hiya fixed the neck and jaw from Goji despite more ppl simply just want a rerelease of it, cuz they missed out on it. Hiya could just resells what they already got but didn't. Not out of consideration nor care for you, but cuz they are selling another product that you dunno you've bought and dunno you've paid for.
And that product is intimacy, with the payment of loyalty. Cuz by the end of the day they still expect you to support their rerelease. Hiya made more repaints than SHMA, but ppl seems to not be as infuriated by it. Even buys them. Tamashii didn't use this model, they don't sell you on intimacy, thus I don't see them as the kind to take the initiative when the market is ok with what's available. Which is fine, they're just not the kind for me, while what they offered could be for you. Hence I just simply moved away from SHMA Godzilla. I'm still going back for MonHun, waiting for Lagiacrus, and would want more Gamera stuff. Give me Heisei Gyaos, dang it. I dunno if this is me seeing pattern where there isn't, but I feel like flagship are generally of lower quality than nicher stuff. I would use example from Bandai's plastic model line.
They got this line called HG. It's a line for 12-15cm plastic models that are generally cheaper. It focused more on quantity than quality. However, it seems to me that this only applies to Gundam. As HG for the weaker brand (by weaker in this context I mean ppl who would buy a plamo of) they got better engineering and part seperation (this meant less stickers to compensate for the color of a design). One case is model kits from SRW. Issa game consist of many mecha franchises, but it didn't really had a lot of merch, and their original designs are in obscure, unknown lines made by smaller company. The engineering and part seperation on their HGs are well beyond HG standards. And you kinda see the same trend on other HG lines that are more niche, like Amaim, Code Geass, or a HG-equivalent line like FRS Digimon and Yu-Gi-Oh. I feel like it's because these lines can't support itself from fans alone. Unlike the big names like Gundam or Godzilla, ppl who don't know the names nor typically associating it to said form of merch would probably not buy them. So they lean on to the other market, drawing ppl with something else. For plastic models it's their engineering and part seperation, to attract the plamo enthusiast who cares more for the build experience more than the design and names in and of itself. With figures it's more quality and care.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I feel like Godzilla line didn't achieve feats that the non-Godzilla line often do with SHMA, at least not as often. Gamera had been bangers, MonHun had been bangers, Yu-Gi-Oh had been bangers, all with minimal or next-to-no issues. In comparison the Godzilla ones are servicable or full of issue. I guess cuz the Godzilla name could carry the line, this also caused them to further got no reason to take the initiative. To clarify, yes, MonHun and Yu-Gi-Oh is a big franchise. But most ppl would buy their games/trading cards, not figures or model kits. Their main market isn't figures, but something else.
TLDR, I do somewhat agree with Steven, but I feel like I got enough of the negativity that I could just move away as suppose to expect a change in something that never caters towards the type of customer I am. Thus I'll still sticks to Hiya, but would consider SHMA for the nicher lines. Buuuuuut, my god...zilla, Hiya. When will I get my Ghidorah. Man, the distribution of this one.... I've seen some ppl just recently got theirs, do I am waiting still for my turn.... Still waiting, 5 months later. I hope this issue isn't a trend with every larger Hiya figures. At this point I might have to move to China. Oh well, glory to Xi Jinping, I guess
Even when we have differing opinions I am always moved by your use of words
@@kaijucanuck4492 I do have to admit, that how I perceive this hobby sphere now is mostly thanks to your channel and the bois . I used to be more or less like Steven in terms of my pov, heck probably more brutal than him . Especially towards Super7 and SHMA . I realize the fallacies in some of my logic and began to warm up to the stuff I used to despise. Heck, even ended up liking them, like Super7, ReAction and their Shogun Goji in particular . Really appreciate the videos and discourse you brought up. Yes, you and I don't always see eye to eye, but I appreciate the insights I got from you, regardless if I like what I'm hearing or not. I'm at the point in life where I seek a genuine and diverse conversation than stuck in a bubble of yes-man or hate train. As well as simply give out my points and hearing others, instead of engaging in a polarising conflict that aren't supposed to be serious issues . Life is hard as it is, hobbies shouldn't be rocket science . Looking forward to more of you videos and commentarid, m8 . Ones that I could agree and disagree with. I hope more and more people would find this channel, and more fandom follows the example of providing a healthy discourse platform. It's not just lacking here (Godzilla sphere), but everywhere. A Canuck a day keeps the toxicity away
I'm having a similar situation, because I recently bought the monsterarts Shinjuku Battle 1991 Goji. I got it because I love that godzilla design, its the one I've been most familiar with since I was younger than 10. I also got it because I'm in a position where every so often I'm able to spend my money on a more expensive item, and this is the first monsterarts figure I've bought myself.
So I watch Steven's review, and I'm being made to feel like I've wasted my money? I understand that folks who collect every single monsterarts figure are disappointed because it's not hyper-articulated like the Final Wars figure, or it's not the exact suit they were hoping for, but not everyone is able to buy all of these things. I see something I like, and if I can afford it I might just buy it. I don't care what diehard collectors think, no judgement towards them, I just want to enjoy my purchase without hearing "Yknow you really should've just waiting for [figure]."
All of this being said, though, I have pre-ordered the Hiya 1991 goji, so..
I'm glad you like your 91 and don't let anybody drag you down!
About the jaw not closing all the way on the GxK Godzilla figure, this is actually a thing that’s been around since the 2019 figure. It’s a problem on mine, too.
Thank you so much for taking the time to create this video. I agree with you 100%. It actually amazes me in every single collector’s group, whether it’s Hot Toys, 1/12 scale or Monsterverse, how many people seek approval of what they purchase. What is wrong for appreciating both SHMA and HIYA for what they have to offer. I purchase HIYA for screen accuracy and SHMA for articulation. That’s just the way it is and I like both companies for different reasons. Like art, music isn’t it all subjective? ….” I don’t eye f*ck my toys…” 😂😂😂😂 I’m dying over here! My mottos is always, buy what makes YOU happy. Period. Hell, I am just thrilled that these toys are being made! I am 52 years old and only could dream of such things as a kid. All we had available were the Monogram Model kits back then. For goodness sakes, this is supposed to be fun!!! The customer who spends his or her own money should have the choice without insult. Attacking the customer is pretty immature imo and hypocritical. It seems more personal opinion than an objective and fair review. (Steven) Attacking the customer is a TANTRUM.
@kaijucanuck I have to be perfectly honest. I have left many FB collecting groups of ALL kinds, simply because there was too much “grown” men having these disturbing “man-tantrums” over a toy and honestly, I think that’s something that needs to be looked at and addressed. That’s not normal in my opinion. I just see far too often. It just takes any joy out of it and this type of behavior does not discriminate.
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10:10 Of course, how you said, and that is more a problem with me, in specific in my city or others of my state, is that you can’t find even a Playmates figure. And I don’t know in others places in Mexico, but I think here (In Mexico) are so hard to find the SHMA’s figures, and in Amazon, for example, they are so expensive.
There's just no need to call out steven
True, thought I don’t agree with a bit of his takes, he’s a great reviewer
I feel like when it comes to comparing products it's only fair if one product does something that others could benefit from
(NECA is releasing TMNT figures from the 2012 series and there's somethings I'd love that they took from the Revoltech versions) but I agree that when you're reviewing something you should talk about that product itself maybe compare size and articulation there's no need in saying "see this product does this so much better than *insert other company here*"
Don't agree with alot in the vid but i hear your concerns. The cherry picking point is a bit mute to me when you also go on to do so right after pointing out his negative bandai reviews to make your point, when he has made recent reviews, the SHMA Blue eyes and Tigrex, where he did praise them for releasing good products. I feel that a good reviewer will point out the negative practices both consumers and companies fall into and i feel STR does that and did so in his shma GxK reviews. But hey just my opinion
I’ve always found Stevens reviews to be kinda of meh. Not because of the content, but because he seems to always pick at certain figures and gives very personal recommendations.
I like STR's videos but dont always agree with them. Sometimes he leans a little too much into the memes and negativity. I started tuning out of the unboxings when he began the trend of fake hysterical laughter whenever a part would fall off out of the box. Like, yes I get it, these things are expensive and they shouldnt fall apart, but is it that big of a deal?
Also, not a fan of when he makes it personal. Make your value judgement on the products, but theres no reason to extend that judgement to the buyers. Like I said in another comment, I would have been in the market for the Godzilla if I had skipped the GVK one, because it just looks better overall and has more accessories.
Personally, Bandai has always kind of dropped the ball with the monsterverse stuff but has been killing it with everything else. So now that we have Hiya Toys as an alternative, I really dont feel the need to be angry with Bandai anymore, because if the product looks bad, I will simply not buy it.
Trust me, I used to hate on SHMA when they first started, but they have improved a lot since those days. They absolutely still deserve criticism in places (overpriced, stingy with effects, quality control), but it can be done without the snark and negativity.
Anyway, you've earned a subscriber this day! I appreciate your thoughtful commentary and measured demeanor.
Welcome aboard!
C-cronos? Is that you?
100% agree with everything said here.
Also, thanks for the memories man, loved your content
Hey! It’s one of the O.G’s! Used to watch your vids back in the day. (I was the dude who gifted you the YMSF Komunga like 13 years ago!)
@@matthewsanchez4490Small world! I still have it, too. lol. Thank you again!
Europe context for Spain and Portugal : the GvK is easy to find and its pretty cheap. This isn't a gotcha or anything, I just would like for people to comment on availability in their countries in the replies to have a more open perspective on how easy it is to find these if needed without having to order them online, i have seen gvk figs on stores
All good, availability will vary with geography
@@kaijucanuck4492 yup, in Latin America where i lived before it was incredibly hard to find any shma stuff
Hey bro, I'm from Spain, what is your go to distributor?
@@alexfarmer15 i lived in Madrid and Mansion del terror had a bunch of G sh figures
I lived right next to their store and bought my King with them and my Gigan.
What a great example of a critique being constructive and level headed. Great video
I dunno where I stand with this. It's literally just toys, I don't think it should be taken that seriously. I understand peoples frustrations with the SHMA Line, but let's not pretend that Hiya will wipe out SHMA. I own both, and I really like them for different reasons. They go for different things, and sure you can compare them, but it depends on where your priorities lie.
But yeah in terms of reviewing, I think it's okay to push a narrative as long as the audience knows what's going on. any one who has watched STR for extended periods of time will know that he is a lot more harsh on SHMA. I do think that he should be more up front with this fact, but It's his channel. I do think people are getting carried away with the SHMA hate, again it's just a toy. If you don't like the product, don't buy it, but also don't shit on people for enjoying something that you don't.
I enjoy you and Steven’s videos greatly, I’m siding with you on this one, even though I don’t like these releases specifically I get how others can and that’s fine, but judging people for their choices just isn’t it for me.
from personal experience, his last two points really struck a nerve with me. The whole gatekeeping of what you should or should not have in your collection and then have the nerve to judge them for it is such an insane attitude to have. It just comes off as a total lack of respect to your viewers and followers who go to your page because they want to hear your input because they trust your opinion. Also his recent thumbnails that include Bandai in them is giving clickbait fandom tourist that the franchise has been dealing with since minus one came out
I truly think a break from Bandai would do STR some good. Your point around being able to watch a video without feeling insulted is very important.
There isn't gatekeeping. I explicitly stated to buy whatever you wanted because in the end it really doesn't matter, but if you did want to spend your money to join in on the fandom I encouraged you to divert your time and energy elsewhere. Not actually listening to what was said doesn't help the points and understanding them; I addressed points which people brought up as arguments why they would buy these, and counterpoints to something else. So they want my input... On what to do....
It's like taking an issue to do exactly what I do. Review stuff.
@@kaijucanuck4492 No, not really. If you think that clearly you don't watch my content. Rather selectively. "Take a break" from the awesome 1972? Come on.
I've watched you since your Destoroyah Evolution pack. You never forget your first STR video.
@@StevensToyReviews You didn’t even watch his video at all Steven. You can’t talk at all.
I gotta say both figures are
ABSOLUTELY FANTASTIC
Diegodoom reference?
@@ParrotsAccount yup
Dude, I can’t even believe you made this video. I was literally commenting this kind of stuff on his channel last year but he’s just so defensive.
When i first saw this this vids thumbnail and FigureManiaShow's community post about it, i kinda thought that you guys were kinda just sucking up to SHMA and were upset with steve cuz I've seen his video and how negative he was to them, and I kinda agreed with him and thought yawl were just mad about what he said.
But after watching this video I see how wrong i was to assume that, you made some really good points that I wouldn't have thought to consider, like how you really cant expect everyone to already have some figures cuz everyone is different, especially the part about him having more opportunities then some because he lives in the US.
(I do too which is why i related with that, I literally found my SHMA19 at a book store, which was so unexpected, and I can see maybe not being so possible in other countries like lets say Canada or the UK, I wouldn't know I don't live there.)
So yeah i actually feel bad now for assuming that about you, you were infact valid and kinda just right with your response.
I appreciate you going in with an open mind!
The eye fucking comment had me roaring. Its so true, the tiniest little imperfections can only be viewed by a 4k camera with a god damn lens x10 magnifying lol.
You don't eye-fuck your figures?! My figures eye-fuck me back. I had to get a restraining order on my Blackarachnia. I had to buy the Jada Toys Chun Li to be a bodyguard.
Also not too long ago wasn't Super 7 on Steven's shit list? Now that he got the Destoroyah he has his sights on Bandai? Is it just me, or has Steven been relying on there always being a toy brand boogieman lately?
The Blackarachnia eye-fucking is a mental image I am now stuck with, oh lord
@@kaijucanuck4492 sometimes she's angry when she does it too. It started getting scary ever since I sold my Mothra. And since Chun Li arrived it's been even more aggressive.
Stop stop the mental imagery is so taxing
@@kaijucanuck4492 idk how many eyes she has, considering the name, but i dont think a guy has enough holes for them
My figures look at me when i sleep and i see them blink and talk amongst each-other, what should I do
Well, I'm not nearly as critical about shma, but just seeing that goji in hand makes me want to get it even more and so far going by my first and (as of the time im writing this) only shma godzilla (the newer 1991 goji) i like the line
I am so glad I had found your channel, you seem like a very level headed individual when it comes to the articulated Godzilla figure discourse. Most of what I’ve seen are people just blindly praising or hating certain companies
Welcome aboard!
i spent over about 80-100-ish dollars (its been ten years i really dont remember) in 2014 money to buy a millenium concept godzilla monsterarts.
it was markedly smaller than i was expecting, and came with no atomic breath part. the sculpt was gorgeous and i genuinely prefered it's design to the version that appeared in the film. the wrist joint fell apart out of the box, and the tail fell apart frequently. its filler pieces restricted its articulation, and were floaters. something was always clashing with something else. the figure resisted any real attempt to play with it, and so its mostly a display piece now.
it wasn't a bad experience, but ive never had any incentive to go for another release. i think the only time i've ever been tempted were the gamera figures, and the recently released final wars godzilla.
I love how humble your are about this stuff!
if I get a chance to get monsterverse Godzilla and Kong that’s fine by me
I ended up breaking the Hiya Ghidorah tail and having to super glue it. I’m never buying another figure that requires heat treatment. They can put a man on the moon people, someone should be able to figure out an easier way to attach a tail. It’s ridiculous.
Seriously, I was nervous as hell trying to get mine on
I don't think there was a single Neca, Diamond Select or Hiya figure I didn't have to heat to get the ACTUAL articulation. Hell, I didn't even know Neca Godzilla's had more range of movement back when I got into collection in 2020 until I watched videos about heating them up.
I sympathize with that Hiya Ghidorah tail, that was fucking ridiculous. It took me 90 mins using hot water, hairdryer and when those didn't work fucking boiling water to attach them. Cut the shit out of my palm, I and to reshape the socket on both of the tails, even then I put them on the wrong side. I said my peace and for some reason preordered the Gravity Beam one on Amazon cause I'm a masochist.
Fucking hilarious!
Man, these horror stories about the Hiya Ghidorah tails make me feel blessed because mine popped in without too much of a struggle. Sorry that happened to you.
They never put a man on the moon lol
(8:12) While I don't advocate for S.H. MonsterArts, at the same time though I don't necessarily hate them iver (im kinda more in the middle when it comes to their figures honestly). Granted I do have two MonsterArts figures currently but I doubt i'll be getting anymore in the near future. However if I was collecting more MonsterArts figures like most collectors, I probably would get the 2024 version of Godzilla. Not just because the colors look cool but also this version of the figure looks like the more classic Toho Godzilla (with the more bright blue and charcoal gray color scheme). And I know it might look lazy to some people to re-release the same figure over and over again, but now if you only wanted to pick one of the figures they have released so far at least you have many to pick from. 🖥🦖🖌📦
(10:52) Dose Micheal from "The Articulation Series" (or anyone else for that matter) know about how well the "Movie Monster Series" dose in Japan too? I know its a little bit unrelated to the topic but still im genuinely curious. Not just for the Bandai vinyls but even for Playmates as well. I don't really hear people talking about that type of stuff, not just about the success of the figures but also on which monster gets sold the most compared to others in the same line. 🤔💸🏪🎁🤷
For someone who didn’t get the original releases of GvK or the 2019 figure I gotta say, I really like them for what they are.
It's nice ot see reviwers critique each other, its nice ot see different views and opinions
I only own 3 Legendary SHMonsterarts the 2014 poster version (came with the Japanese release of the movie) the 2014 Godzilla with muto head (atomic version) and the Godzilla vs Kong figure and I don't have any issues with them at all! At the end of the day we chose what makes us happy, I don't listen to movie critique and I don't listen to toy critics either I just take my chances and so far I have no regrets
Giga mentality tbh
ok here is my take (first i want to say the tail thing seemed to be your figure mine was on fine and has never once come off ) ok so my thing about his vid is im American the aftermarket has the gvk godzilla pushing 190 usd and i have yet to be able to afford them when they drop i can now but still cant get the old ones because they are flipped for over twice the price. also from what im told by people who did get the others he is better in plastic the joints and is just a better version of the gvk fig nothing has me scared it will break nothing is falling off on me he is solid and i love having him on my desk
Love what you had to say in this video, some of Steven's points are a bit flawed in my opinion. I dont think justification is needed to want to but these SHMA GxK figs. There are collectors who will want to buy various figures, be it Hiya, SHMA, Super7, or otherwise. As long as that collector is happy with that choice, thats all that matters at the end of the day. This is a great example of genuinely constructive criticism.
Look, as much as I used to really defend him, Anthony's Customs is in the same boat for me. He actively tries to be as negative as possible and then will put on this almost pompous persona, like he's better than most toy companies or collectors. I just can't understand why he acts this way? Views? A huge driving factor that wedged me away from him as an active viewer, was when he refused to review the 1000Toys Master Chief from CE, going as far as to actively attacking the figure publicly, making preconceived arguments about its quality, whilst refusing to review the figure. It was quite honestly the most off-putting, disingenuous thing I've ever witnessed in the figure reviewing community.
Like, your job is to review the figures, and then you refuse to review the figure, but then have the gal to make notions about it when you don't even own it.
I'm just noticing a lot of collectors will jump on these band-wagons latley, whilst not even owning these figures that these toy reviewers are bashing. Learn to formulate your own opinions guys, they're making you like sheep.
Fantastic video, calling out someone’s bs. These recycled sculpts are getting old for an established collector like myself. But as you said someone getting back in or just starting collecting, it’s a great opportunity. I also collect X-Plus statues, I heavily rely on their re-releases since I got into the game so late. Just yesterday they put their 1964 King Ghidorah back up for pre order, I was over the moon!
I have absolutely no room for X-Plus so I'm very jealous of your collection!
Why can't we just get the figures we like? Why does there always have to be a problem with people saying, "You shouldn't get this if you have respect for your wallet". When a figure releases. It feels super maniphalative when people say this honestly. Why can't we just get and enjoy the figures we want to? Why is there always a problem with me wanting this? For what I'm aware. This figure has better articulation then the gvk version. Since i make stop motions, this looks like a figure i would really love! I'd be able to do so much with it!!!
Thank you for making this video!
As much as I don’t want to see this channel devolve into being a beef/drama channel (and yes I know it’s roots are somewhat in that) , this was definitely a video that needed to be made. It’s completely baffling when figures are reissued and some collectors cannot comprehend that there are endless reasons why other collectors may not have been able to obtain the original. It’s an embarrassing level of arrogance, and Steven is getting worse for it as time goes on
I've said my piece, I don't intend to continue down this route unless something dramatic were to happen
20:48 I didn't actually read that the first time. Why is he being so insufferable lmao
Admittedly, in 5 years SHMA could have improved this figure a little.
I am glad I'm not the only one who noticed this, I've personally commented on his videos. Carefully with consideration just saying my opinion (not even about him, about the figure) and I get met with a harsh response. It felt as though I had said something wrong, even though I hadn't said anything against Steven at all. I do understand where he's coming from as sometimes you can get carried away with some thoughts and patterns and not see yourself, but I agree, there's a lack of tack when it comes to certain opinions (specifically with you buy whatever you like and you let others enjoy what you don't, if that's their thing) I still enjoy his reviews and overviews on figures, but there's a degree of exclusivity that accompanies his comments. Diego Doom is absolutely fantastic though. Definitely my favorite reviewer 😂.
I personally agree. Even though I plan to get the hiya pre evolved, I still really like the shma godzilla 2024 .
I've been relatively vocal about my distaste for SHMA, and the majority of high-end collectibles, and I understand where a lot of folks are coming from. That being said, criticizing the individual for liking the thing that they like is not only besides the point, it's immature, and frankly a self report that you don't have a meaningful point to make. A genuine expression of one's opinion shouldn't come at the cost of a fair, honest point. To put down people who like or want to engage with these releases, even though you don't is to deny them the uniqueness of their experience and relationship with the hobby. If you can't make your point without undermining people's approach to their hobby, then I think a re-evaluation of the point is in order. Bad-faith arguments never got anybody anywhere, and that sort of rhetoric has bred so much discourse and hostility in the community. I say this with all due respect, as a person of little to no influence, and I hope that this can serve as a constructive learning opportunity. It's easy to shoot off at the mouth and dig your heels in when you feel strongly about something. I've done it many a time. It's just important to keep in mind the nexus of your argument, so that you can avoid derailing your own point. Just my thoughts, of course.
Well said, Jackson! I can certainly understand frustration with the state of a line, but directing it toward those who support and enjoy the line seems like an exercise in futility.
@@kaijucanuck4492 thank you, 100% agreed
I’m new to collecting sh figure arts. I bought this Godzilla. Did I make a good choice?
If you like the figure, you made a good choice
If it has good qc you made a good choice
I think his point of SH Monster Arts is just using these as a cash grab is spot on. look at the night version in the NYC store exclusive. They have the ability to make it better but chose to give use very sloppy paint work and such and call it exclusive just to get a quick buck. If you want it go for it, BUT we should hold all companies to a higher standard, its the same with films amd streaming services and their complete ignorance to what the fans want and are unhappy with the results when people dont watch their product when we dodnt want it in the first place
NCV specifically I think is a bad example because exclusives should be recolours. If they were unique molds, a lot of people would be upset at not being able to get them. But, I take the point around a low-effort repaint with weight, but as I said in the video there have been and still are demands for these molds in their primary markets and it would be almost silly for Bandai to not release these.
@@kaijucanuck4492 yes they should be recolors but with a high degree of specificity and detail. By making is a very bland and at times sloppy paint application it does feel like a CASH GRAB. I mean let's look at the difference with the poster version color of 2019 versus the NYC exclusive. You can see the lengths they went to make the EXCLUSIVE feel like a very quality and unique figure well worth the price. The argument still holds. Also again, WHY didn't monsterarts make a MOVIE accurate depiction when it comes to paint application the first go around and instead we got toothpaste? The movie was basically held up for a year due to covid and they could have gotten the paint down or like Hiya recall their figures. By doing this it kind of spits on our face.
I don't know man, I'm with you on not liking the toothpaste look, but the Japanese market bought them up immediately. It's just a different world over there. The NCV is lost on me, perhaps they thought it had been a while since a "normal" looking version of the mold was out. TAS would have more to say on it, I'm just spittballing.
I feel like you could say HIYA is doing some cash grab’s as well. But hey, that’s how things work.
@@kaijucanuck4492 like I see both arguments, there are people who didn't get the GvK version and don't want the price hike on eBay but for something like this which you agree is just a repaint which should be more exclusive based because it's the SAME mold as you mentioned above, then Bandai should have made a limited run or like Super7 take preorders to a certain date and close it, let whoever wants the repaint get it all the while ALL the other fans could have enjoyed something different from this film that's NOT a repaint or at least very different from previous releases for example the supercharged Godzilla from GxK when he's all electric blue and has all the cracks for blue in his scales would have been a nice addition seeing as how WE have never gotten something like that. Different paint job but drastic enough like 2019 burning Godzilla to where it would make sense for the Majority of fans to go out and buy it.
I'm not sure if my examples are getting the point across correctly?
The way you open box and figure so gently lmao
They releasin a new godzilla evolved, it looks like them mfs finally cookin? But it will probably get ruined by qc
I'm unhappy with the Godzilla collectible scene but I'll explain why. I recognize there's so many new lines and figures being made and they're availability is unlike ever before (I became a fan in 08 I know the eBay hustle). But the quality, or better yet bang for your buck leaves a lot to be desired. The prices are outrageous, even for different IPs in the same line. A lot of the new lines tend to focus on toyetic retro styles which is not my thing. Basically I'm an old man missing Bandai America and early Monsterarts. Revoltech used to make figures you remember that?
I kinda agree this community is getting very negative before we had hiya everything was good because no one I agrueing about winch is the best and now now today if you don’t like hiya to much your wrong, if you like super 7 your wrong, collecting are not instruction or if you collect anything like monsterarts you are wrong according to a few reviews we should be happy we have this much figures and how the community has grown we have such a variety. And also I’m tired of people praising hiya like hiya is not hot toys level of quality or a 1000 dollar statue getting the figures is not that easy to get a lot of figures you are gonna have search a year to get shimo and evoled Godzilla, sure the monsterarts are not accurate but why do you care if care about accuracy so much then get a statue( I know you like hiya but these are major problems that some people have with hiya). I’m not a monsterarts defender either I’m aware of the problems all I’m saying that it’s really not that bad. Super 7 is trying. All I’m saying we are in a good time in the community
Just started collecting again and preordered the hiya Godzilla and shimo never had that brand nor monster arts did I choose a good figure?
HIYA is doing great stuff, I think everyone can agree on that!
Great video like always, Canuck!
I did find it quite odd why people were so upset when these got announced to begin with. If you already have the 2019 release, 2021, or anything in between, these clearly were not for you. I've come across so many people online who didn't get any of the previous releases that are so happy that they finally got the chance to get a copy of this mold. A lot of people clearly like this stylized mold. I can understand being upset that this one got a beam and the other releases didn't, but other than that, I just didn't get it. Bandai is in the game of making money, and repaints make lots of that. Hiya definetely knows that.
I had about 12 minutes of additional footage that I ended up leaving out, but part of it was talking about how these are the forms we see the characters in for the majority of the movie. There is concept art out now showing these versions fighting in Egypt, and they were the first versions we saw Playmates show off at Toy Fair last year. Pair that with the appetite in Japan for these molds and it would almost seem silly of Bandai to NOT issue these.
@@kaijucanuck4492 Maybe in a Members Only video, we could see that? :P
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I agree with you, I don’t understand why people act like Bandai shot their grandmas when these figures got announced
It’s more the fact that people were never happy with this sculpt in the first place. Even by 2019, it was kind of mediocre and not all that movie-accurate. People have been requesting improvements to the sculpt for almost 5 years and all they got were repaints. When Hiya is not only able to deliver a much better sculpt for a considerably cheaper price, but they actually listened to feedback and were quick to make noticeable improvements in their updated figures, it makes SHMA look lazy by comparison.
I personally feel like, you are representing the lower end of the spectrum, basically, the common customer who has to make his own purchase, and may have different situations (availability, finance)
and Steven is at the other end, mainly like a critical reviewer who looks into all the little details, but gives the analysis on a larger scale, not sometimes considering why a customer would, or wouldn't buy a specific unit!
NO HATE to anyone!
although I do wna see Steven,'s response to this !
AGAIN NO NEGATIVITY/ HATE/ CONFLICT!!!!!!!!
I’ve never been a big fan of Steven, he’s extremely arrogant and overly defensive about any disagreement with him. So defensive to the point where I’m 90% sure he just makes things up sometimes. You could say something like “the moon is full tonight” and he will come back at you with “well actually I’m an astronaut, and have been for 20 years, while I’ve also read every book about the moon, and was best friends with Neil Armstrong, so no the moon is not full tonight, you know nothing about the moon” it’s truly wild! I’ve stopped watching his stuff because of his “I’m always correct and I’ve never been wrong or had an L take ever” attitude.
There’s wanting SHMA to be better, and then there’s just being a whiny little baby. If you don’t like the figures, then don’t buy them! It really is that simple! For me Steven’s channel has become watching a grown man whine and cry because his toy he didn’t need to buy (and probably won’t keep anyway) has the most minute of imperfections. Just buy what you like!
Is cool to see kaijucanuck doing unboxing before.Very 🆒
If I’m being honest, I think these releases were fine from the start. They did make these for people who missed out on the first releases from Gvk, and I’m happy about that because although the Gvk Kong is still like $68, Godzilla… yeah he’s kinda overpriced now. And I’m happy the Godzilla is a least an improvement with great tail articulation and more accessories (despite the breath being reused) than the first release although it’s a bit more money. Kong is barely anything, but I don’t think people are gonna pick that up. I’ve enjoyed sh monsterarts releases for a long time, and I’m a mad how much hiya has overshadowed them. I feel people only care about hiya because they’re more accurate and cheaper (for the monsterverse), but even though the hiyas probably better, I still enjoy stuff like these from sh monsterarts.
It's funny that alot of STR fans are getting triggered by this video, like, grow a pair LMAO
Great video
Personally I dislike monsterarts, but if you enjoy the articulation and the figure in general you should get it.
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Sh monsterarts isn't very good anymore (for Godzilla), it's just getting more expensive with less to come with it
Can we get a vid on what Super7 Ultimates kaiju you might want to see or Monsterarts figures?
No hate towards you or Steven, but he’s always like “another monstervser pickup☹️” (not an actual line he said” but he also acts like he can’t just sell one of them
0/10 review for no eye fucking.
On the real, great breakdown! 👌🦖
This is why I love Your videos, you give out great points, keep up the great work.
So after 4 days of this videos release I thought I’d make a comment
It seems that Steven doesn’t take accountability for some of his actions and that he seems to be rude to other figure channels based off what they say about him (this isn’t true most likely but that’s what I got from it)
And Steven in the comments is kinda acting petty and childish to this whole video even though you’re more giving constructive criticism then attacking him
I’m not saying that Steven is bad nor do I hate him I do love the channel and do watch his reviews for when I’m buying more pricey figures so….
I wish I could like this video about 40 more times. I 100% agree with all of it.
i can't believe steven ambatukam would do this...
Sorry I’m late to comment but this video is peak I agree with everything you said
This is a great figure.. but it took Bandai 3 years to give us it. They did not need to release this version when they should have been focused on making an evolved version of Godzilla and Kong. Instead, they played us giving us an old figure with new paint. They stopped including accessories for Godzilla figures that cost 100+ dollars, their paint applications the past few years have been disgusting, teeth and heads sculpts look like crap, and parts falling apart.They either simply stopped caring for this line or they knew that no matter what they put out, butt kissers would defend them to the end still. It shouldn't have taken them 3 years to give us a proper Legendary Godzilla with blue dorsal plates and a freaking beam effect at a reasonable price. Only just recently they've started to put some effort. The only reason why this new repaint has so much hype is because this is what we all originally wanted. Collectors fell for Bandai's thirst trap ways. Yes I'm going to sell my 2021 version and buy this 2024 version to replace it. But that's all it is, is a replacement and nothing more.
I gotta agree with Steve on this one
Me too
This is kinda dramatic for just someone having their opinion on an action figure. No hate though these figures look pretty amazing!
100% agree
This had to be said . Too much negativity. I totally agree with what you are saying
where did you get that hat
Check my community tab
Dude you are throwing everything at the wall trying to get it to stick lol
Yea and they all landed perfectly
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@@MemeinAndDreamin no as in your copping
HOW DARE YOU RERELEASE A FIGURE! IT IS IMPOSSIBLE FOR ANY NEW FANS OF GODZILLA OR KONG TO EXIST!
Another great video by KaijuCanuck👏
I was with you on a lot of points, especially when it came to things like non-US distribution prices (which is a legitimate good point), but when you say there's no issue with a company making a bad product if people are "buying it in droves", I completely disagree. You ask where is the problem, and we are literally seeing it with this release: cash grab re-releases that are no where near as good as they could be, AND 25% more expensive than the prior iteration. Most companies will continue to cut corners and make things worse until it affects them financially, if consumers continue to give and give on standards, it continues to get worse. It's obviously impossible to make a call to action so that no one buys these, but it's a frustrating feeling
It's not a "savior mentality", you are objectively wrong to say that these figures are quality. And by quality, I'm strictly referring to the bar set by a multitude of other releases in the SHMA line. Gigan, 1954 re-issue, Blue eyes, Gamera, Shin night version, Final wars, these are all objectively of higher quality than these MV releases. This compounded with the fact that they've been re-released and re-issued so many times, there's no excuse for it. These GxK figures are, unarguably, of much lower quality than other current SHMA, and there is absolutely no reason they should MSRP for 25% more for the exact same sculpt.
If knowing all that doesn't prevent someone from buying it, then that's their choice, but you almost make it seem like Steven, a reviewer, should draw the line at paint and sculpt and can't talk about the external elements of these figures. That's a really weird line to draw
1. I didn't say the figures were of quality, I said that they are not of sufficient quality to the people who dislike them while being totally fine to the target market buying them.
2. It's only a savior complex if you think the Japanese need to be saved from themselves. If you don't think this, I'm not talking about you.
@@kaijucanuck4492 Putting a racial aspect on this is weird? It's not a Japanese thing, it's a global consumer thing that applies to everyone. You (not you specifically, i mean in general) should not be recommending people buy a figure that is 25% more expensive than it's last version, that has been re-issued multiple times, with glaring problems. If someone asked me where to start on MV collecting, Hiya is the no brain answer. You're paying significantly less for better with Hiya, and we've seen hiya going in and adjusting sculpt/articulation and re-releasing for no additional cost. SHMA has absolutely dropped the ball on the Monsterverse. These *should* be avoided unless you feel like you *have* to have them
The racial aspect is only because Japan is the primary market, they buy these things up like crazy. I've seen folks (not you) talk about how they don't realize they're being hosed, despite the fact that the Japanese market just really likes these things and don't feel like they're being cheated generally speaking.
I'm with you on Monsterverse releases with HIYA, and I'm very curious what will come of their classics line!
@@kaijucanuck4492 Well I do actually think the Japanese might be getting screwed over, but not because of a cultural thing or something like that. I've noticed a lot of SHMA 'alternative' figures are exempt from shipping to Japan, presumably some part of the license agreement, and that they end up being much more expensive to get over there. From that perspective, I can understand the drive for SHMA, it's easier to get and the price disparity doesn't exist. But if you're in the situation to choose, which I think Steven is assuming (and that's fair to say isn't true for everyone obviously), I think a lot more of his argument makes sense
nice monstro ball
I've been following Steven for years now and my impression about him is he's either one of the unluckiest reviewers who gets the worst copies to review or he's too harsh on the products.
I enjoy watching various reviewers and their takes on the toys. Especially when they can run $75- $150. Everyone has their own opinion as it should be. And if you can afford to buy everything on the market that is great. But most of us can’t. And if you already have a version of the figure and aren’t a collector that has to have a new version only because they changed the Hue of an eye color then Steven is right on saying then pass on it And I think that that is the audience that he is addressing. Older collectors vs new ones.
And while you start out with valid points on why people should pick up the latest release you then …. well you start using the tactic that the other reviewer is a bad person and belittling others. And isn’t that just awful.
So why the personal attack? To get clicks or promote SHM?
Where did I say he's a bad person?
Steven literally makes a point like sh monster arts has been really lazy and using the same mold twice I mean they could have done a little more here but no just give us same figure but with g19 head which I do appreciate but sh monsterarts has been lazy and if you don’t collect sh monsterarts then don’t talk about it
"I don't enjoy conflict, I don't like confrontation" he says while whipping this off before leaving for his MMA training. Anyway, "I don't like this thing and you're a bad person for ensuring that things I don't like exist!" is a wild way to conduct a toy review. If bro resents having to buy SHMA figures to review, that HIS problem. Don't be so audience captured.
Solzhenitsyn once said something to the effect that as our material prosperity grows, our divisions have become ever more intractable. We have never had more, nor been more miserable and divided. My pet theory is that when everything is good, there is nothing to say about it. It meets all our expectations and speaks for its own perfection. But the imperfect falls short, and that gap between what it is and what we desire it to be is the space that is filled with bitching and whining about it. And when we have more and more and more that is good, our complaints must get pettier and pettier and pettier. Old soldiers can commiserate, but toy reviewers are enemies forever.
Didn't Orwell say something similar to the effect of the human mind wanting to fight so desperately for something that it will invent problems? Seems like a similar idea.
@@kaijucanuck4492 sharp guys, those two 🙂
Media literacy is dead, lmao
i used to love his review untill 2 years ago.....all the shma review is just full of sign sound and ....
Glad someone’s finally calling out Steven. He used to be the go to for reviews and he wasn’t insufferable to watch but lately his content has been horrid bait for shma fans. His whole thing is appealing to hiya fans. Every vid he makes on hiya is followed with tons of comments bashing shma and he knows that. He’s no longer credible and you’re better off finding other people to watch. Hes a clown
str is just very bias towards hiya