Bloodborne - Plain Doll Deep Dive - Every Rare Event Technical Breakdown

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  • @ChrisWTFern
    @ChrisWTFern 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2540

    The melody the Doll sings is "Báyushki Bayú" , a Russian lullaby. Dead By Daylight players will also recognize it as the tune The Huntress hums to herself as she stalks her prey.

    • @ripples1072
      @ripples1072 5 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      Thanks!

    • @Dactaraad
      @Dactaraad 5 ปีที่แล้ว +127

      I knew it sounded familiar.

    • @ShanghaiWall
      @ShanghaiWall 5 ปีที่แล้ว +238

      Yes! At first I thought it was Zhili u babusyi, but it wasn't quite right. I think developers asked the Russian voice actor Evetta Muradasilova to hum some lullaby, but upon learning that this is actually Russian folk lullaby, they removed it so it won't create any unnecessary lore.

    • @ShanghaiWall
      @ShanghaiWall 5 ปีที่แล้ว +413

      The lyrics to this lullaby are hilariously relatable to Bloodborne actually. Bayu Bayushki Bayu
      Do not lie down near the edge of the bed
      The grey wolfie will come
      And grab you by your tiny side
      He'll grab you by your tiny side
      And drag you to the forest...
      Drag you to the forest...

    • @dissonantmind
      @dissonantmind 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Thank you!

  • @DebugMenu
    @DebugMenu  5 ปีที่แล้ว +2393

    I swear I was *this* close to titling the video: ASMR Soothing Plain Doll CALMLY PRAYS FOR YOU! (Try not to get relaxed!! ((99.993% FAIL!!!))))

    • @lettuceprime4922
      @lettuceprime4922 5 ปีที่แล้ว +47

      ugh that would have been great disliked

    • @dravendfr
      @dravendfr 5 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      That’s beautiful.

    • @Coypop
      @Coypop 5 ปีที่แล้ว +39

      I mean, maybe you could loop it? Maybe for the love of God you could loop it?

    • @lfestevao
      @lfestevao 5 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Someone can still do it.
      I think by tomorrow we'll find a 10 hour version of it on YT

    • @ThatRipOff
      @ThatRipOff 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Elden Ring better have some ASMR humming hub world girl now.

  • @typesirius3653
    @typesirius3653 4 ปีที่แล้ว +297

    This mean The Doll actually remember my noob ass character first time play. That's kinda cool and sad.

  • @Irreverent_bob
    @Irreverent_bob 4 ปีที่แล้ว +331

    The doll seriously has the prettiest voice I’ve ever heard in my life. I really hope Bloodborne 2 comes out one day.... I miss Bloodborne so much

    • @hanlee3345
      @hanlee3345 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      She gives me Pom Klementeiff Mantis vibes for some reason

    • @MonsteRNieR
      @MonsteRNieR 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Also Melina’s voice

    • @AydarBMSTU
      @AydarBMSTU ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah, sure, the prettiest in your life, sure thing, buddy

    • @emiliosr2978
      @emiliosr2978 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      @@AydarBMSTU why... why are you triggered by this?

    • @harmonybutnomoney
      @harmonybutnomoney 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@AydarBMSTUSure, yeah, for sure, the prettiest, sure thing, mmmhm, sure.

  • @TheButterWombat
    @TheButterWombat 5 ปีที่แล้ว +552

    I think it's a shame the lullaby was removed with the patch, it would have been another humanising action for the doll, who we're already so fond of. Thanks for all your hard work on this! It was really cool to learn how all of her actions are tiggered!

    • @Rehevkor
      @Rehevkor 4 ปีที่แล้ว +81

      I'm late to the party, but it seems likely to me that it was accidentally disabled. The condition tree for the Doll's different states is already fairly complex, and by making a small change to that code they could have easily rendered one possible outcome (the lullaby) impossible to achieve. I have done the same thing coding before; when you start moving conditions around and adding to them you can easily "orphan" one of them by creating a situation where a particular outcome will always have priority over another one. Given that it was already a rare event such a bug would almost certainly never been caught by testers, even after numerous patches.

  • @jonissues1914
    @jonissues1914 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1195

    Lance seriously thank you very much for this videos, means a lot to the bloodborne fans, i can't get enough of this game.

    • @ncrranger6327
      @ncrranger6327 5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Indeed. When I thought no game would give me the same feelings that I get only from listening to Fallout: New Vegas ost, comes Bloodborne to legit mark my life. Cheers from Brazil mate

    • @Knttsq
      @Knttsq 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Do you still dream?

    • @Jaden.CMeguinis
      @Jaden.CMeguinis ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Knttsqdo you still dream?

    • @Knttsq
      @Knttsq ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Jaden.CMeguinis “I have long been severed from the workshop. However, next time you dream, give some thought to the hunt, and its purpose

  • @GunRunner106
    @GunRunner106 5 ปีที่แล้ว +492

    lance: "but there is one more thing"

    • @CycloneFox
      @CycloneFox 5 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      This line coming from Lance is music in my ears. :D

    • @zaroko8105
      @zaroko8105 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      There is another

    • @Sorrelhas
      @Sorrelhas 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      "But I'm not done yet! If you call right now, I'll give you 2 extra points in Arcane, completely free."

    • @OneOnlyDan
      @OneOnlyDan 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Lance is actually Columbo's grandson.

  • @lawresk
    @lawresk 5 ปีที่แล้ว +356

    This is awesome!
    That lullaby actually is most well known russian lullaby "Báyushki Bayú"

    • @Evilflesh666
      @Evilflesh666 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Can confirm, that's true

    • @Darkhearts
      @Darkhearts 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Does it have any lyrics or meaning? My google-fu is not doing so great with that wording.

    • @9thbattery39
      @9thbattery39 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      you can heart it in john wick 1

    • @Evilflesh666
      @Evilflesh666 5 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      @@Darkhearts It's childish and cringy but overall meaning was "fall asleep faster and don't sleep on your side or a wolf will bite your tummy" something like that.

    • @lawresk
      @lawresk 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Daniil Bogdanov, переводчик от бога :/

  • @liquidboss2719
    @liquidboss2719 5 ปีที่แล้ว +751

    "If you delete Bloodborne and put in this copy of DOA Xtreme 3..."

    • @HellGatyr
      @HellGatyr 5 ปีที่แล้ว +174

      The doll have bob jiggle mechanic and it will explain every lore including the ludwig mentor

    • @coatguy2990
      @coatguy2990 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I hope with DOA you mean Dead Ops Arcade!

  • @ghostwanderer3034
    @ghostwanderer3034 5 ปีที่แล้ว +759

    OK, time for some really terrifying theories.
    I’m from Russia (“please excuse my perfect accent”), and as it was already mentioned, what Doll is singing in the 1.0.0 version is the common slavic lullaby. (Just imagine my emotions after realizing it). It actually has a huge amount of variations, but the common parts are:
    Fell asleep faster;
    Don’t lie down on the edge;
    The grey wolfie will come and bite your side.
    Which perfectly fits in BB plot, especially the beginning scene of blood transfusion.
    But there is even more. What winter lanterns are singing is quite similar to it.
    So, if we decide to connect it to the lore we already know;
    Could it be, that Lady Maria have sung this lullaby to clocktower patients, and now, after obtaining the eyes of Mensis/ being absorbed by the Nightmare/ etc, they are singing the monstrously distorted version of this song?
    Especially considering, that they are casting the frenzy effect, which means interacting with the supernatural information from the depths of the Nightmare. It can be kind of interpreted as falling to the deepest sleep possible.
    Actually, I’ve been developing an really big theory about lanterns, based on analyzing G.P. Lovecraft references. If someone is interested, I can translate and post it in the comments.
    ...
    And I’ve actually wrote it in this line of comments, so I’ll add it to this comment to make it easier to find.
    ...
    The starting point and the source of their unique power is the Brain of Mensis. (It is literally calleg "mother brain" in game files). The Great One, that has an organ named living string. It is said it it' description, that the brain was lined with eyes on the inside, but they were of an evil sort.
    We already know, that insight and frenzy are two forms of the same process - obtaining supernatural knowledge. In case of frenzy it happends too roughly and causes the brain damage.
    It is likely that the school of Mensis wanted to use it as a sourse of insight, but it was impossible for regular humans.
    We know that research hall patients were the first attempt to create an superhuman creatures. The choir have continued this research and created celestial emmisares. But the patients are also similar to the lanterns, especially the separete head ones, that can attack with tentacles and cause frenzy. It is almost obvious that, the Mensis school used them in their own way, and created the lanterns.
    “Here starts the completely theoretical part”
    They needed a vessel able to absorb the knowledge from the Mensis Brain. But although the patient were already resistant to frenzy, there was another problem.
    The M. Brain has basically two effects, the second one is turning the victim's blood into hard spikes similar to ones on bloodletter weapon. Here comes another feature of the lanterns - they drop only the droplet blood gems, that have no spiky patterns like other types.
    It seems that the "head" patients have no blood, only brain fluid, but they need a functional body. Mensis school have created a special blood, that doesn't crystallise into spikes. (Ritual blood is described as “incoagulable” so at least it is a feature that exists in the lore). The last thing they needed was the shell for it. And here appears... Gehrman.
    We already have an evidence, that he was working with Mensis. The red moon above old Yharnam was summoned by Mensis ritual (it becomes obvious near the end of the game). But the description of the cord in the workshop says, it is also involved. It is unlikely, that this two cases are independent. Gherman wanted to bring the Doll alive so much, that he submitted his life to the Moon Presence, it it is likely, that he met it not suddenly.
    The doll has human form, but “sheds no blood”, which makes it a perfect shell. After being affected by the M. Brain, the head patient + doll combination transformed into the Winter Lantern.
    Here actually goes the Lovecraft reference. He has a short story “Out of the Aeons”.
    To begin with, this book mentions the “year of the red moon” that happened thousands of years ago. It is unlikely to be a coincidence, looks like H. Miyazaki have read this story.
    It also mentions the creature named Ghatanothoa. Anyone who gazes upon it or it’s image becomes mad and petrified, but the organs remain safe, the story ends with revealing of the safe and functional BRAIN inside of Ghatanothoa’s victim. And the most important part: eyes of a human, affected by It, contain an imprinted image of this creature, that has partially the same effect.
    So, the Brain of Mensis and the Wintern Lanterns May be the reference to Ghatanothoa and it’s victims.
    And just some interesting fact: a lot of people wandered what does “Winter lantern” mean. The truth is, in Japan version they are called emm... the same way as a plant “Physalis alkekengi” that has a lot of other names like “Japanese-lantern”, “winter cherry”, and yeah “winter lantern”. This plant was widely used in medicine with different purposes including sedative. Which is ironically the complete opposite of what lanterns are in the game.
    There is a very underrated criteria of fan-theories - how much it adds to the story and character development.
    The theory, that Lantern are just created by Nightmare to scare the Hunter, adds almost nothing.
    The “failing attempts to create the Doll” theory shows us, how much Gherman suffered, and why he ended up a slave of the Moon Presence.
    (And possibly gives some really tricky Easter egg).

    • @camazotzbat5970
      @camazotzbat5970 5 ปีที่แล้ว +77

      The Winter Lanterns wear the doll's clothing, have doll hands and sing her song off-key. They're warped versions of the doll created by the nightmare to screw with the Hunter's head, taking the one ounce of trust and safety they've built up and tainting it.

    • @HayleyEnkeds
      @HayleyEnkeds 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      *remembered the comment of a guy who called your comment "bedsheet"*

    • @jacobhoover1654
      @jacobhoover1654 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@camazotzbat5970 Same. I've read all lovecrafts stuff im interested if OP has more to add or makes his own video.

    • @ghostwanderer3034
      @ghostwanderer3034 5 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Camazotz Bat,
      It may be so, but I think this part of the lore is much bigger and more important.
      ...
      It took some time to write this, but at least now a have it somewhere...
      ...
      The starting point and the source of their unique power is the Brain of Mensis. (It is literally calleg "mother brain" in game files). The Great One, that has an organ named living string. It is said it it' description, that the brain was lined with eyes on the inside, but they were of an evil sort.
      We already know, that insight and frenzy are two forms of the same process - obtaining supernatural knowledge. In case of frenzy it happends too roughly and causes the brain damage.
      It is likely that the school of Mensis wanted to use it as a sourse of insight, but it was impossible for regular humans.
      We know that research hall patients were the first attempt to create an superhuman creatures. The choir have continued this research and created celestial emmisares. But the patients are also similar to the lanterns, especially the separete head ones, that can attack with tentacles and cause frenzy. It is almost obvious that, the Mensis school used them in their on way, and created the lanterns.
      «Here starts completely theoretical part”
      They needed a vessel able to absorb the knowledge from the Mensis Brain. But although the patient were already resistant to frenzy, there was another problem.
      The M. Brain has basically two effects, the second one is turning the victim's blood into hard spikes similar to ones on bloodletter weapon. Here comes another feature of the lanterns - they drop only the droplet blood gems, that have no spiky patterns like other types.
      It seems that the "head" patients have no blood, only brain fluid, but they need a functional body. Mensis school have created a special blood, that doesn't crystallise into spikes. (Ritual blood is described as “incoagulable” so at least it is a feature that exists in the lore). The last thing they needed was the shell for it. And here appears... Gehrman.
      We already have an evidence, that he was working with Mensis. The red moon above old Yharnam was summoned by Mensis ritual (it becomes obvious near the end of the game). But the description of the cord in the workshop says, it is also involved. It is unlikely, that this two cases are independent. Gherman wanted to bring the Doll alive so much, that he submitted his life to the Moon Presence, it it is likely, that he met it not suddenly.
      The doll has human form, but “sheds no blood”, which makes it a perfect shell. After being affected by the M. Brain, the head patient + doll combination transformed into the Winter Lantern.
      Here actually goes the Lovecraft reference. He has a short story “Out of the Aeons”.
      To begin with, this book mentions the “year of the red moon” that happened thousands of years ago. It is unlikely to be a coincidence, looks like H. Miyazaki have read this story.
      It also mentions the creature named Ghatanothoa. Anyone who gazes upon it or it’s image becomes mad and petrified, but the organs remain safe, the story ends with revealing of the safe and functional BRAIN inside of Ghatanothoa’s victim. And the most important part: eyes of a human, affected by It, contain an imprinted image of this creature, that has partially the same effect.
      So, the Brain of Mensis and the Wintern Lanterns May be the reference to Ghatanothoa and it’s victims.
      And just some interesting fact: a lot of people wandered what does “Winter lantern” mean. The truth is, in Japan version they are called emm... the same way as a plant “Physalis alkekengi” that has a lot of other names like “Japanese-lantern”, “winter cherry”, and yeah “winter lantern”. This plant was widely used in medicine with different purposes including sedative. Which is ironically the complete opposite of what lanterns are in the game.
      There is a very underrated criteria of fan-theories - how much it adds to the story and character development.
      The theory, that Lantern are just created by Nightmare to scare the Hunter, adds almost nothing.
      The “failing attempts to create the Doll” theory shows us, how much Gherman suffered, and why he ended up a slave of the Moon Presence.
      (And possibly gives some really tricky Easter egg).

    • @ghostwanderer3034
      @ghostwanderer3034 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Jacob Hoover, well, I’ve wrote some thoughts there ^

  • @HeatherHolt
    @HeatherHolt 5 ปีที่แล้ว +342

    I love the doll. So interesting. This story is so deep with the lore. I’m still hooked after all these years.

  • @DebugMenu
    @DebugMenu  5 ปีที่แล้ว +701

    Anyway moral of the story, click on this link: twitch.tv/lancemcdonald
    I hope you enjoyed the video, but if you just want the raw DATA, here you go:
    Version 1.0:
    10% chance of falling asleep in her usual spot.
    10% chance of kneeling at the unmarked grave
    1% chance of praying at the unmarked grave, as long as Rom is dead.
    1% chance of humming a lullaby at the unmarked grave, as long as Rom is dead.
    10% chance of kneeling at the player's grave in NG+, as long as the player has seen the Yharnam sunrise ending.
    0.5% chance of praying at the player's grave, as long as the player has seen the Yharnam sunrise ending.
    0.5% chance of humming a lullaby at the player's grave, as long as the player has seen the Yharnam sunrise ending.
    And regardless of anything else, if we've given her the hair ornament, her prayer will feature one extra line of dialogue at the end
    Version 1.01 or above:
    10% chance of falling asleep in her usual spot.
    10% chance of kneeling at the unmarked grave, as long as the hunter's nightmare has never been visited
    2% chance of praying at the unmarked grave, as long as the hunter's nightmare has never been visited, and Rom is dead.
    10% chance of kneeling at the player's grave in NG+, as long as the hunter's nightmare has never been visited, and the player has seen the Yharnam sunrise ending.
    2% chance of praying at the player's grave, as long as the hunter's nightmare has never been visited, Rom is dead, and the player has seen the Yharnam sunrise ending.
    And regardless of anything else, if we've given her the hair ornament, her prayer will feature one extra line of dialogue at the end

    • @DebugMenu
      @DebugMenu  5 ปีที่แล้ว +55

      And beyond all of this, there is a bug when visiting Chalice Dungeons that can corrupt her flags and just make her do completely arbitrary things. It's insanely rare, but JSF caught it on video happening.

    • @AE37512
      @AE37512 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@DebugMenu Do you have the name of that video?

    • @Blundir
      @Blundir 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Lance how do you estimate yet unexplored cut content in BB? Is there still a LOT?...

    • @HeatherHolt
      @HeatherHolt 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      A Lullaby?? Oh wow. I’ve never played the original version before update but how cool to be able to see and hear that.

    • @absoutezeo2126
      @absoutezeo2126 5 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Hey Lance, I found the song corresponding to the melody of the lullaby that the Doll is humming. It's Баю баюшки баю, (Bayu Bayushki Bayu) a Russian folk lullaby. It is a common lullaby that mothers sing to their children in Russia and some neighboring slavic countries.

  • @CelestialDraconis
    @CelestialDraconis 5 ปีที่แล้ว +123

    I never noticed that line change in her prayer if you give her the hair ornament. These details are why I love this game man. 5 years later and we're still finding out new stuff about this game.

  • @UshioKiss
    @UshioKiss 5 ปีที่แล้ว +375

    The black box appears when she is sleeping because there IS dialogue. She is snoring. They just didnt give it a sound effect in the English version.

    • @LuluBanzai
      @LuluBanzai 4 ปีที่แล้ว +86

      they did give a sound effect (she snores, or breathes softly) in the english version, just not a subtitle for it.

    • @Bonniebelle_00__
      @Bonniebelle_00__ 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I consider that fx

    • @fjorgyn7438
      @fjorgyn7438 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Snoring isn't dialogue, dude.

    • @andremartinez4411
      @andremartinez4411 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@fjorgyn7438 It is in Japanese.

    • @fjorgyn7438
      @fjorgyn7438 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@andremartinez4411 it's still not dialogue, it's a sound effect

  • @NightmareOfSolomonShira04
    @NightmareOfSolomonShira04 5 ปีที่แล้ว +89

    The doll is one of the best soulsborne hubworld wifes.

    • @DANTEEEEEEEE
      @DANTEEEEEEEE 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Nah, covetous demon is.

    • @moongrumpy
      @moongrumpy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Winter Lantern has entered the chat.

  • @KI-fd2co
    @KI-fd2co 5 ปีที่แล้ว +168

    Ah, Bloodborne. A fond, distant memory that I treasure. The nostalgia I feel ,when I watch these kind of videos, is precious and strangely soothing.

  • @keskes1338
    @keskes1338 5 ปีที่แล้ว +209

    You rock, Lance. I'm gonna watch this like three times in a row now.

  • @tax_priestess
    @tax_priestess 5 ปีที่แล้ว +324

    My game is still at version 0, due to me being unable to update it, and what happens in my game is each play through I collect the bone from the Abandoned workshop (old hunters bone?) and I warp to the Dream, she will say her "O Flora," dialogue.

    • @DebugMenu
      @DebugMenu  5 ปีที่แล้ว +151

      Now that... is interesting. I'll need to check if there's a flag attached to that bone!

    • @tax_priestess
      @tax_priestess 5 ปีที่แล้ว +59

      @@DebugMenu what I thought was interesting was the extra line of dialogue for the hair ornament. Great video/discoveries!

    • @hughotterson6590
      @hughotterson6590 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Nice find!

    • @GOD-nx1yo
      @GOD-nx1yo 5 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      Same but in my game she’s twerking... strange...very strange

    • @tortilla6960
      @tortilla6960 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@GOD-nx1yo lmao

  • @bagofrandom
    @bagofrandom 5 ปีที่แล้ว +58

    That extra line of dialogue in her prayer, and the dialogue after yharnam sunrise, blew my mind.. incredible work as always

  • @Ron__Solo
    @Ron__Solo 5 ปีที่แล้ว +46

    This game is so entrenched in lore that it could be a real place, just wow. Thank you very much for making this video, this games lore seems to be bottomless

  • @guidofedeli851
    @guidofedeli851 5 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    I was lucky enough to witness the lullaby when I played the 1.0 version (I couldn't update it due to not having internet at the time and I simply couldn't not play Bloodborne). I didn't know it was this rare of an event. Wonderful video as always. Keep up the great work!

  • @qv3me
    @qv3me 5 ปีที่แล้ว +158

    Doll: sings a lullaby
    Hunters who played Dead by Daylight: I feel uncomfortable..
    Nice video! I never knew about this lullaby and never noticed the change of the prayer.

    • @wyvin3295
      @wyvin3295 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Damnit, now you gave me the idea to make a huntress character...

    • @qv3me
      @qv3me 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@wyvin3295 I don't remember seeing throwing axes in BB but I'd like to see how you would handle the cosplay

    • @wyvin3295
      @wyvin3295 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I’m thinking hunters axe (obviously) the sorta wolf pelt helm from the dlc, and the music box for that distinct hum. the build itself would be pretty strength based.

  • @Scorched-Knight
    @Scorched-Knight 5 ปีที่แล้ว +69

    Great video man! The Doll is too wholesome

    • @SatomiForward
      @SatomiForward 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      It's always good to return to the dream and hear her comfy tidings

    • @Alonne1
      @Alonne1 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@SatomiForward Doll is the perfect waifu

  • @heystani
    @heystani 5 ปีที่แล้ว +100

    I love these deep dive analysis, great work

  • @moxusmarbleized7707
    @moxusmarbleized7707 5 ปีที่แล้ว +78

    Her humming is so calming, i could sleep to it
    And what a wonderful dream I would have

    • @StinkyPoopyMcFartFace
      @StinkyPoopyMcFartFace 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Marcus Dominguez Be careful The Entity doesn't take you while you dream. Lest this lullaby might take on a darker tone.

    • @tilinh389
      @tilinh389 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Men once time when i sleep
      I saw father gascoi chasing me around

  • @Sentinel_Savior
    @Sentinel_Savior 5 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    Rom: **summons spider to defeat the hunter**
    The Hunter: lol no.

    • @carrotpl
      @carrotpl 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      **slaps rom with the power of lord gwyn himself**

  • @Banana-senpai
    @Banana-senpai 5 ปีที่แล้ว +93

    So they removed such a small piece of content as the lullaby is? Why? It gives so much depth by itself! I'm mad now

    • @TheRagingSerpent
      @TheRagingSerpent 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Most likely some sort of copyright thing.

    • @Banana-senpai
      @Banana-senpai 5 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      @@TheRagingSerpent but you cannot copyright a half-hummed folk lullaby. Also, those last notes that the doll hums are not part of the original lullaby. Makes me think, maybe it's not the same song?

    • @Theohybrid
      @Theohybrid 5 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      @@Banana-senpai I figured it didn't match the lore, was personal to the VA and was cut.

    • @Sassy_Witch
      @Sassy_Witch 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Either it was just the VA training or accidently deleted

    • @thefallencat2080
      @thefallencat2080 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @Steven Murphy it's really easy to accidently remove this outcome

  • @novocomaa
    @novocomaa 5 ปีที่แล้ว +47

    Thank you for the Bloodborne content.
    One thing I’d like to know is what marks a player as a “Bloodadled Hunter” this happens when wearing the hunter of hunters rune and is supposedly a “random” chance. Ideas?

    • @Dimentioxx
      @Dimentioxx 5 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Basically means if you have killed other hunters. The hunters of hunters covenant is specifically to hunt down hunters who have killed. It is a very rare chance. Entirely random as you have said.... Even a hunter of hunters can be blood addled and be hunted down by someome who has the HoH covenant. Ultimately the covenant was a one man(woman) cov with Eileen hunting those who have killed. So if we were to take multiplayer out then it makes a lot more sense story-wise. It isn't as "fun" as other covenants but imo that stamina replenishment is too good.

  • @WhoElseButJarjosa
    @WhoElseButJarjosa 5 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    I love the Doll's lullaby. I wish they didn't patch it out.

  • @KosOrSomeSayKosmo
    @KosOrSomeSayKosmo 5 ปีที่แล้ว +76

    I'm a Bloodborne fanatic and I never even knew that it was possible for the doll to hum a lullaby. Thank you SO MUCH Lance for your hard work. Also, this seems to tie her even more strongly to the winter lanterns now.

  • @akihikoito351
    @akihikoito351 5 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    I felt I bit creepy when heard her lullaby -- it sounds so familiar to the one my mum used to sing to me when I was a child

    • @raymondthrone7197
      @raymondthrone7197 5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      It might be. It's a real lullaby, common in Russia.

    • @Theohybrid
      @Theohybrid 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      "Bayu Bayushki"? The one about the wolfie pulling little one's sides to the forest if they hang along the ends of the bed and whatnot?

    • @zerobasedgod9291
      @zerobasedgod9291 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I bet once she found out you're a furry she didn't even want to get near you

    • @bartendingcrow6497
      @bartendingcrow6497 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@zerobasedgod9291 Silence weeb. Don't consider yourself superior.

  • @madhijz6846
    @madhijz6846 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    this kind of dedication from both the creators and the fans is what you want to see in Games

  • @Fullmetalnyuu0
    @Fullmetalnyuu0 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Thank you, lance! Your work is valuable beyond measure

  • @vicgl5243
    @vicgl5243 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I'm most curios about the actual technical reverse-engineering process of the game. I'd relly like to see a video about that.

  • @TungNguyen-jd1fs
    @TungNguyen-jd1fs 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Man without you i will never know she can humming in this game.

  • @sunbreh9075
    @sunbreh9075 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Her japanese voice is so comforting, it really fitting for the Doll

  • @gtabro1337
    @gtabro1337 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Thanks for still exploring, even prouder to have had this avatar for years because of work such as yours to continue the legacy and the _dream._

  • @simon-peterwilliamson2412
    @simon-peterwilliamson2412 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I had no idea the doll would actually mourn you after gehrman kills you. That's beautiful

  • @Fieldhouz
    @Fieldhouz 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great job on the camera angles, solid work! I love how a random YT video of the Doll’s humming inspired a 15 minute deep dive of her chance ‘encounters’.

  • @someguyshere6968
    @someguyshere6968 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wow you find the most amazing stuff, That humming piece was fantastic & now I'm going to have to try that myself. Thank you for your awesome hard work. It's truly appreciated.
    Also when I was playing the other day & came back to the dream she was asleep. I used a bold hunters mark to re-spawn in the dream shes standing & awake, When I approach she gives the "I was sleeping" line (Latest patch was applied post Rom as I wanted to try the dupe glitch. Not sure if this has any effect but thought it may be worth mentioning.)

  • @zestyolu8413
    @zestyolu8413 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you for talking about the doll's dialogues, prayers and especially her humming. It was relaxing. Well made, sir.

  • @GD-Golden_M
    @GD-Golden_M 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I saw your progress through by accompanying your tweeter posts. But, man, this is amazing. A fine work, really. And that shot from the workshop at the beginning... just lovely.

  • @C0nnie
    @C0nnie 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Love your game shelf

  • @lein7859
    @lein7859 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice work, Lance.

  • @nophiontrollbringer661
    @nophiontrollbringer661 5 ปีที่แล้ว +279

    Still the best Waifu From Software ever gave us.

    • @steampunklemon1508
      @steampunklemon1508 5 ปีที่แล้ว +37

      Nah covetous demon

    • @lolohlinoh8137
      @lolohlinoh8137 5 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      @@steampunklemon1508 Elizabeth mushroom is better.

    • @darsonidomar3186
      @darsonidomar3186 5 ปีที่แล้ว +47

      The nexus chick was bare feet so.. checkmate.

    • @Theohybrid
      @Theohybrid 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Dolleru Best Girl!

    • @benbass5307
      @benbass5307 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Nahh son, nashandra is best waifu

  • @seahuck888
    @seahuck888 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    One of the only channels I get legitimately excited to see pop up in my notifications tbh. Keep up the good work man!

  • @bquek4168
    @bquek4168 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You're content is amazing, Lance!!

  • @Two-HeadedBoy
    @Two-HeadedBoy 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The legend does it again. Thanks for another great video! Always looking forward to more.

  • @hericbss
    @hericbss 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great video Lance!
    I do remember some video here on TH-cam with the Doll humming, some years ago and found it to be very interesting too.

  • @etikareborn5417
    @etikareborn5417 5 ปีที่แล้ว +113

    11:30
    Are there any similarities to the winter lantern singing?
    Edit: And any similarities to lullaby for mergo?

    • @Liminal_Simulacre
      @Liminal_Simulacre 5 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      I don't think so, the notes are different. But if you pay attention, you'll notice that the winter lantern song seems to be just a slower version of mergo's lullaby.

    • @UshioKiss
      @UshioKiss 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I'm no music expert but it sounds similar to the beginning of lullaby for mergo. just imo though. you might need to look at them next to each other to tell

    • @Late0NightPC
      @Late0NightPC 5 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      It seems to be the russian lullaby called Bayushki Bayu

    • @bigsadge
      @bigsadge 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Maybe unrelated but it sounds like one of the killers from Dead By Daylight. Maybe it's a real lullaby?

    • @joebailey8294
      @joebailey8294 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      The winter lantern song does actually seem to be a cut up version of this song. I’m pretty confident.

  • @miragespl
    @miragespl 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    That doll is adorable af and must be protected.

  • @shagreflinn
    @shagreflinn 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Always love your content! This is my favorite game and I love learning about new details, no matter how minor they may be.

  • @sintiendomevivo
    @sintiendomevivo 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    11:03 *Bayu Bayushki Bayu
    *
    Do not lie down near the edge of the bed
    The grey wolfie will come
    And grab you by your tiny sideHe'll grab you by your tiny side
    And drag you to the forest...
    Drag you to the forest...
    Down under a willow shrub.
    Don't come round, wolfie, don't wake up our Masha.
    Bayu Bayushki Bayu
    Do not lie down near the edge of the bed
    The grey wolfie will come
    He'll grab you by your tiny side
    And drag you to the forest...
    Drag you to the forest...
    Down under a raspberry bush.
    And then one raspberry will fall down
    Right into Katenka's mouth.
    Bayu Baushki Bayu
    Do not lie down near the edge of the bed
    The grey wolfie will come
    He'll grab you by your tiny side
    And drag you to the forest...
    Drag you to the forest...
    Down under an aspen tree.
    Don't come round, wolfie, don't wake up our Masha.
    Bayu Bayushki Bayu
    Do not lie down near the edge of the bed
    The grey wolfie will come
    He'll grab you by your tiny side
    And drag you to the forest.
    And drag you to the forest where Nana lives and bakes buns,
    And sells them to the little ones, and Vanusha gets them free of charge.

  • @crilleedara
    @crilleedara 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Enjoyable as always, hehe you´re a real madlad, Lance!! I´m amazed that you jumped back and forth between different versions of the game to find there things out xP

  • @Dorito_Djinn
    @Dorito_Djinn 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Had to make one more comment to let you know that your videos are honestly treasures. You are shedding light on things very few in the world have seen before and it is incredible.
    I'd put you up there with the legendary Nomad Colossus and I hope you continue your dive into these games.

  • @blackmoosev6833
    @blackmoosev6833 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Probably my favorite one you've made. The rare content is beautiful.

    • @catpurcell8818
      @catpurcell8818 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      blackmoose V I could just fall asleep to Dolls voice. She's so sweet, this one if my favorite too

  • @swirls5801
    @swirls5801 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    wtf, the dialogue at 8:13 totally resolves so many questions for me about bloodborne! can't believe i'd never heard it, didn't even know that your tombstone appeared in the dream before this vid

  • @RayleighUzumaki
    @RayleighUzumaki 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That lullaby content was the most needed thing I've ever seen be removed from a game

  • @earth2jio
    @earth2jio 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I like the Japanese voice for the doll; she has the same welcoming, soothing, almost nurturing feek to her voice much like her English voice. With the chance for her to be asleep, in every playthrough, she is asleep every other time I return to the Hunter's dream. I hear the prayer in half of those occasions.
    That hum from 1.0 is something I'd forgotten about until you played it in this video. The subconscious part of my mind remembered it, and it filled my heart with warmth and actually calmed me down just now.
    Always surprises me how much this game has etched itself onto my soul

  • @oldhunterraziel5327
    @oldhunterraziel5327 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Amazing love how you still find new content. And was nice to see your Bloodborne collection. Please keep it up man!!

  • @Breaknoon0
    @Breaknoon0 5 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    The looping segments at 14:07 and 14:17, Can you make more scenes like this? They'd be perfect for animated desktop wallpapers. Good shot composition btw!

  • @supking403
    @supking403 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Hearing the Japanese voice actor gave her a completely different vibe

  • @OFSheep
    @OFSheep ปีที่แล้ว

    It is a very powerful man who keeps five copies of Bloodborne next to two copies of Project Diva X. The Kuleshov effect for interior decoration.

  • @bloodtingeproto
    @bloodtingeproto 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome work, Lance! This is the first time I've heard about that lullaby

  • @AlexanderJoneshttps
    @AlexanderJoneshttps 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Finally been waiting for this althrough I'm always updated on your discord, twitter and stuff :^)

  • @DeusGuy
    @DeusGuy 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Hi, I'm probably coming in very late to this video, and I doubt what I'm about to say will be believed. However. I've been farming dungeons today for gems. On return to the Hunter's dream, I had my subtitles on and audio fully on. The Doll was standing in her normal spot at the bottom of the stairs to the front doors of the workshop. She recited her prayer. I understand the video completely discounts the chances of this, and goddamn do I wish I had it recorded, but she absolutely did. I think there may be some other miniscule chances involved. She was standing and awake, I hadn't approached her yet, but I was in front of her so had been seen. Feel free to say I'm a liar or whatever, I don't mind, but I'm posting this just after she did it. I'm running on the most current version of the game.

    • @DebugMenu
      @DebugMenu  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      This actually happens, yes! There is some kind of bug in the dungeons that totally messes up her flags. My buddy JSF managed to do it literally 1 day before I posted this video, and I didn't really want to focus on it because it's absolutely a bug. But it's real and it happens surprisingly often when farming dungeons!

    • @DebugMenu
      @DebugMenu  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I did search all the dungeon files for instances of her flags being messed up and can't find 100% exactly what causes it, but I've seen video evidence of it at least once and heard it happen to people at least 4 times.

    • @DeusGuy
      @DeusGuy 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@DebugMenu Oh thank God. I actually thought I was going to be insane and ripped apart for not having proof! My only thought is, it's my birthday today, and obviously I have my birthday set up on my account on the PS4. Could this be a reason why? But thank you for replying so fast!

  • @Redbeardblondie
    @Redbeardblondie 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Holy shit, still making content??? Bro, kudos, and thank you!

  • @-----------g-
    @-----------g- 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you for putting in the effort to deepdive with not much lore returned.

  • @LarryLewisLund
    @LarryLewisLund 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This made my day! thank you for this video!

  • @nightfallalicorn4246
    @nightfallalicorn4246 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You never cease to amaze me. Especially the quality of these videos and finds.

  • @chrisgilland5908
    @chrisgilland5908 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    OMFG As soon as I heard that hum I had flash backs to the huntress in dead by daylight its the same lullaby I swear I think it is.

  • @Chilli_Tea
    @Chilli_Tea 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is so sick, great work dude!

  • @OldRum
    @OldRum 5 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    WTF, her lullaby sounds like russian lullaby named «Bayu bayushki bayu»
    I didn’t expect to hear it in Bloodborne

    • @Theohybrid
      @Theohybrid 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Yep. I believe the VA is russian.
      So it was probably a personal lullaby from her time as a child.
      Maybe conflicted with the lore and was cut? Who knows? I certainly don't.

    • @klodtwentytwo2242
      @klodtwentytwo2242 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Theohybrid It would actually would be perfect for bloodborne because the lullabie goes:
      "Baby, baby, rock-a-bye
      On the edge you mustn’t lie
      Or the little grey wolf will come
      And will nip you on the tum,
      Tug you off into the wood
      Underneath the willow-root."

  • @madeinsy7752
    @madeinsy7752 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    As usual you work is a work of a Great One. Love the details man, keep it up. Now I have reason to play Unpatched version of Bloodborne. Thank you.

  • @simplytony698
    @simplytony698 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    This was such AMAZING Work👏 Thank You. I Love Bloodborne so much any content on it is much appreciated 🙏

  • @waveburner1254
    @waveburner1254 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    That 2% chance happened to me a few weeks ago. I thought it was something really rare, because I never managed to get her praying and sleeping anymore.

  • @hackerw2
    @hackerw2 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    the technical knowledge needed to find these type of triggers and finding the exact percentages is unbelievable. Respect

  • @98Dreadboy
    @98Dreadboy 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love this bloodborne content, always interesting to see what more you can find.

  • @zamplify
    @zamplify 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I am SO HAPPY for some reason to know the Doll wishes me to experience the warm glow of nostalgia. Nostalgia for the dream, and possibly also for herself.

  • @absoutezeo2126
    @absoutezeo2126 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This was a lovely video, very informative. I was familiar with most of the material because I've been playing both versions of this game a lot ever since Day 1 in Japan, but I never, ever found that lullaby. I'm curious as to what song it actually is myself. Regardless, I must thank and congratulate you on finding raw data on the *why* of many of these events here. Cheers!
    Update: found the song. Check Lance's pinned comment for my reply.

    • @absoutezeo2126
      @absoutezeo2126 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      P.S. I am now going to uninstall and reinstall Bloodborne, make a new save file, get the doll to do the lullaby on that save file, then upgrade the game to get her to keep doing it. Hell, I've done everything else this game has to offer, may as well go all the way.

  • @frealms
    @frealms 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hope you are proud of yourself, now I got this humming in my head.

  • @m-pouya-m
    @m-pouya-m 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice job doing all these researches. So much dedication and passion went on this video. Thank you

  • @insanelyheinousbeefer
    @insanelyheinousbeefer 5 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    1:13 im pretty sure i remember this is because there is actually a pretty quiet snoring sound effect that I guess gets triggered like a normal dialogue

    • @bertvanbeterbed9702
      @bertvanbeterbed9702 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Yes but if you think about it, Gehrman also snores w/o a dialogue box. So the way I see it the dialogue box was intended for the lullaby and got replaced by snoring, but the box stayed as it was ''reserved'' for the lullaby. So ''freezing'' the game in v1.0 probably causes to glitch the game in a way that it thinks the lullaby is still in the game, so it starts using this ''reserved'' space again.
      I would actually love to know if the duration of dialogue box (which disappears after a while) and the lullaby are of the same length. It would explain a lot about the box for me.

  • @Ejmillanv
    @Ejmillanv 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    i've always loved the doll, this is nice.

  • @vinowalken
    @vinowalken 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I played this game like 6 times and I only heard the grave prayer once, now I discover that there’s way more than just that super rare event,this game just keeps giving man.

  • @emlan3494
    @emlan3494 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Feels like I've been binging so much cut/hidden content that I just braced for a breakdown of stuff I was familiar with but this lullaby humming was completely new...so neat!

  • @bigserbman5962
    @bigserbman5962 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Bloodborne videos even now? I’m so happy!

  • @evansblueblair6918
    @evansblueblair6918 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is why I subscribed. Good stuff my man

  • @derekcampbell4209
    @derekcampbell4209 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks Lance,
    You’re the best, you’re content is awesome.

  • @floraofthemoon
    @floraofthemoon 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Named my channel after The Doll's prayer. Thank you Lance!

  • @grahamstoner
    @grahamstoner 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I don't own a physical copy but I bought Bloodborne on release. I completely forgot the Doll's humming tune and now you've reminded me! Thanks, that cool!

  • @dragoonman1478
    @dragoonman1478 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    That bloodborne case...I'm jealous. Great video as always Lance

  • @gamecollector5507
    @gamecollector5507 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    @10:06 - Wow, you own 5 variants of Bloodborne discs & 4 different versions of Darks Souls 3. That is good to know. Nice collection.
    I own Bloodborne original version & Goty both.

  • @MrBaydeux
    @MrBaydeux 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    This channel really keeps bloodborne alive for me, I'm going to boot it up once I get home from work and give it another go

  • @johnryan8985
    @johnryan8985 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Seems like everytime she is at the grave or sleeping. I got the sense that if I returned with enough echos to level up she would go to the grave so I noticed the grave. Pretty neat to know, nice work.

  • @TheLegendofGumby
    @TheLegendofGumby 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for keeping this game alive! All your videos are really interesting

  • @josephustheinvestigator
    @josephustheinvestigator 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Amazing work dude!

  • @PseudoMystic
    @PseudoMystic 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think something the devs are drawing on to an extent here is "mono no aware", or the "sadness/pathos of things", it's easily one of the most beautiful concepts found throughout Japanese art and merges elements like the western concept of nostalgia with reflection upon the impermanence of life.

  • @manumpm95
    @manumpm95 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dude you're such a legend, stunning work

  • @fes.phantasm1848
    @fes.phantasm1848 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I can't imagine how much effort you've been putting in your videos. I just wanna tell you that I love your content and thank you so much.