I looked at Sid and Makeys' video and it did not help as much as this one. I really could see what he was going on and even the part about removing the valve core was mentioned. Thanks a lot, I feel really proud of myself for putting on my first tubeless tire. Thanks, man!!
Thank you so much for sharing that. I’ve found that there may be many videos out there on certain topics but sometimes it just takes another perspective... I’m glad you were able to get your first tubeless tire set up by yourself!
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@Briggs Lawson i really appreciate your reply. I found the site through google and im in the hacking process now. Looks like it's gonna take quite some time so I will reply here later with my results.
Really helped me out. Of course it was the 6th of 6 wheels I was working on for my buddy and his family. All the others pumped right up. Good video. Bravo. Also watched Syd And Macky video after. I've watched their Downieville race weekend video. Small world. Nice people like yourself. Cheers.
if you winterize your your house just by an attachment it saves you effort and time or just by a airshot it works wonder you get this done in 3-5 minutes
Every rim and tire combo will seat differently. I’ve had some tires seat with a floor pump without doing anything at all. However, most required me to pre seat with this technique.
I just set my new tires up as tubeless for the first time and used a floor pump. The rims are and tires were 2Bliss Ready and it is for a 2016 Specialized Stumpjumper FSR Comp. I think the 2Bliss is why this was so easy. I used a floor pump and got 2 pops on the front tire and it seated very nicely. The back tire only gave a couple very small almost inaudible pops and but it still seated nicely. Since it wasn't a loud pop I squeezed the tire walls close to the bead and worked around the tire while it was inflated. I lightly deflated about half way a couple times and reinflated. It was way too easy!
Back in the UST days I learnt that all you needed to do to install a tubeless tire with a floor pump was start with both beads in the inner channel. I’ve installed dozen of tires, including Maxxis Minnions and Aggressors (WT, EXO, DD etc), onto a few different rims (incl. WTB rims). Never an issue.
@@sideparting6845 I saw this years ago, tried it and never struggled since. www.pinkbike.com/video/232415/ It works on both UST and TR rims, just start with the bead in the middle of the rim. I don't think I knew about it until I went tubless so never tried on old rims.....
Does it work the same way if I pour the sealant thru the valve once the beads are pre-set? Looks like a better way for a newbie not to make a big mess...
Yea it would.. the only thing would be that if for whatever reason you don’t get the tire to seat properly the first time, you’re going to have to make adjustments and pre seat the tire again but now with sealant in tire and that can make a mess. But… if you get the tire pre seated like I did here in this video, it’s pretty guaranteed you’ll get it pumped up fine.
This pre-sit techic it can be done in maxxis and sure on continental ones. If you try on schwalbes it wont have any success unless you are prepared for a serious pumping / chest workout of an hour. They have this tendancy not to presit but to fold within the rim. The other trick here is first to use a tube for couple of days to make them get the rims shape. Then try again. But you might not succed either. Another trick for schwalbes are to buy wired ones. The sit more easily byt not get to maximum pressure as close as 7 PSI cause they tend to explode (get off the rim). With wired ones do this -> put a tube and sit the tyre. Then deflate an unsit the one side. Take out the tube and put the tubeless valve. Then presit the wired one usited side using a metal tool otherwise a plastic is going to brake. Sit it as far as it can gets and bit more till you strugle with the tool. Then wit a couple of pumps it will sit just fine. Deflate againt he tyre, it will not unsit. The wire holds it ok, like contis and maxxis. Put the sealant throught the valve core. Inflate. Otherwise use a tool as Milkit tubeless booster (a bottle which is a Tubeless tire inflator and drinking system in one)
No problem, i struggled, just bought the Lezyne Pressure Overdrive Tank Tubeless Floor Pump, did not even take a min and the tyre popped into place. Thank you anyway!
I’ve never worked on road tires/bikes so I’m not sure if it will work the same. The road tires are much smaller and rims are very thin. You might be able to work one side of the tire into the edge - in my video I pre-seated two halves. You could try just seating one half of the road tire near the valve… let me know if you get it or not. It will help other users coming here for that same question.
seating the bead question: should you hear 1 pop or 2 pops (one for each side) or will there be multiple pops (different locations around the tire, dependent on the tire rim combination)
There’s no rule to this. You might hear multiple pops, sometimes just one. There’s been times when I inflated too slow and it never really “popped” but it was still seated. Hearing the pop is more confirmation that it seated well.
@@MTBTrailRider another question: I did a dry run. The bead is seated but I am noticing a bubbles with soapy water at the nipples. Is this normal before adding the sealant? I applied to 2x rounds to tubless tape and made sure no bubbles, made hole smaller than valve, my inner rim width is 19 and I am using 21 because the center channel is very deep.
@@SojuForAll wow.. sorry for the really late reply!! I didn’t get notified of your comment. It sounds like it’s a rim tape issue. Rub the rim down with rubbing alcohol and do your best to pull the tape tight and make sure there are no wrinkles. Press firmly... there seems to still be air leaking somewhere.
TR as in Tubeless Ready? Yes. You just need to make sure your tires are not too wide. You probably don’t want to go more than 2.3” tires on your rims if they have internal width of 20mm. You could get away with 2.4 tires but for optimal performance, you might want to stay at 2.1-2.3
Tried this trick yesterday, but it didn't work at all; the tire kept falling back into the center of the rim. I was attempting to fit a lightweight 2.25 tire, not a robust (heavy) 2.6 like you did.
Hmm.. I’ve been able to get the bead to sit on other tires too. The initial starting of this trick can sometimes pull off the bead but you want to really push down on the tire pressing the bead into the trim of the rim. Press firmly and hold that grip a little longer maybe before moving down the rim more??? Hard to say without looking at it.
Hope you were able to get it set up ok. Don’t be afraid to try and do the work yourself too. It’s always good to learn how to do these things as they come up and if something doesn’t work and can’t figure it out… take to the bike shop and have them fix it. But ask them if they are willing to share what you did wrong so you can know for next time. 👍🏼
Cheers mate , I really wanted to try it myself , but I live in a small apartment with 2 kids so, I think it might just be a bit much trouble for myself 🤣🤣🤣
This must be the most rim specific thing in the world, I can't get a Maxxis tyre anywhere even close to staying in the beat of mine. It isn't worth the fucking about just buy a tubeless pump instead
No, the bead sits really easy, but the more tire you can get seated the easier the pumping will be. You don’t have to go completely half way around the rim on each side. Just 1/3 of the tire on each side would likely be fine and would prevent the struggle pushing the tire lever across the rim at the end.
No need to remove the valve core if you aren't adding sealant through the valve stem and you are only using a regular floor pump to add air. Nice video, though. I'll have to give it a try.
Removing the valve core helps open the airway to get the air into the tire faster if you are not using a high volume floor pump. But you’re correct; you don’t have to remove the valve core.
Sorry this didn’t work for you.. I’ve used this on all my tubeless tire set ups. The initial start i can see being difficult, but as you watch in the video you need to use your thumb/palm to hold the initial bead in as you move down the tire. Once you get a few inches around the rim it should hold on its own. 🤷🏼♂️
Please delete the first minute and get to the point. Correction: delete the first 2 minutes. Edit: just delete the entire video - your tip is not worth passing on (do not put sealant into the tyre until after seating the tyre),
There are chapters listed on the video for you to skip to the content you want to see. The first 1 minute literally says intro. Then the next chapter is wheel and tire prep, etc And there’s absolutely nothing wrong with putting sealant before you inflate your tire. And with this trick, your tire is already mostly seated, so really... we did put sealant into the tire AFTER it was seated. ;) Anyways... thanks for watching! Haha
I looked at Sid and Makeys' video and it did not help as much as this one. I really could see what he was going on and even the part about removing the valve core was mentioned. Thanks a lot, I feel really proud of myself for putting on my first tubeless tire. Thanks, man!!
Thank you so much for sharing that. I’ve found that there may be many videos out there on certain topics but sometimes it just takes another perspective... I’m glad you were able to get your first tubeless tire set up by yourself!
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@Briggs Lawson i really appreciate your reply. I found the site through google and im in the hacking process now.
Looks like it's gonna take quite some time so I will reply here later with my results.
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Thank you so much you really help me out!
@Westley Quentin happy to help =)
Really helped me out. Of course it was the 6th of 6 wheels I was working on for my buddy and his family. All the others pumped right up. Good video. Bravo. Also watched Syd And Macky video after. I've watched their Downieville race weekend video. Small world. Nice people like yourself. Cheers.
Thank you! I appreciate the kind words. I’m glad this video helped you out.
Thanks for this! I used this trick last night and it made my life so much easier! Thanks for sharing.
Glad I could help! Also, thanks for joining MTB Trail Rider and supporting this channel. Hope to serve you with more videos and extra perks.
Thanx for this.. I could see exactly what you were doing and seated and inflated my tyre first time :)
Excellent!
Tried and it works, they’re great!
if you winterize your your house just by an attachment it saves you effort and time or just by a airshot it works wonder you get this done in 3-5 minutes
A combination of doing this preseating and also taking an old tube that I wrapped around the tire worked for me
Every rim and tire combo will seat differently. I’ve had some tires seat with a floor pump without doing anything at all. However, most required me to pre seat with this technique.
Best tutorial for this! After following your explanation of the method I got it right first time.
Awesome! So glad this helped you out.
I just set my new tires up as tubeless for the first time and used a floor pump. The rims are and tires were 2Bliss Ready and it is for a 2016 Specialized Stumpjumper FSR Comp. I think the 2Bliss is why this was so easy. I used a floor pump and got 2 pops on the front tire and it seated very nicely. The back tire only gave a couple very small almost inaudible pops and but it still seated nicely. Since it wasn't a loud pop I squeezed the tire walls close to the bead and worked around the tire while it was inflated. I lightly deflated about half way a couple times and reinflated. It was way too easy!
Back in the UST days I learnt that all you needed to do to install a tubeless tire with a floor pump was start with both beads in the inner channel. I’ve installed dozen of tires, including Maxxis Minnions and Aggressors (WT, EXO, DD etc), onto a few different rims (incl. WTB rims). Never an issue.
In the inner channel? Not on the outside? I am trying to get a tyre to sit on a really old Mavic rim and losing the will to live
@@sideparting6845 I saw this years ago, tried it and never struggled since.
www.pinkbike.com/video/232415/
It works on both UST and TR rims, just start with the bead in the middle of the rim. I don't think I knew about it until I went tubless so never tried on old rims.....
@@dknz79 how is there an inner channel if youve taped it up with tubeless tape?
@@dknz79 I think you posted the wrong link
I would like to see you do my downhill tire by hand. That thing don't stretch (just getting it on the rim).
Does it work the same way if I pour the sealant thru the valve once the beads are pre-set? Looks like a better way for a newbie not to make a big mess...
Yea it would.. the only thing would be that if for whatever reason you don’t get the tire to seat properly the first time, you’re going to have to make adjustments and pre seat the tire again but now with sealant in tire and that can make a mess. But… if you get the tire pre seated like I did here in this video, it’s pretty guaranteed you’ll get it pumped up fine.
I just hate dealing with sealant messes so I like to get the tire on good first.
Sick dude! This video saved me. I was trying to set both beads in the same direction...it was the opposite that worked for me
Excellent! Glad it helped you out. 🤘🏼
Finally a legit instruction video
Happy to hear that!
2 hours I lost before I watched this👍👍👍👍👍
Sorry to hear you lost the time, but hopefully this helps for future tire changes.
This pre-sit techic it can be done in maxxis and sure on continental ones. If you try on schwalbes it wont have any success unless you are prepared for a serious pumping / chest workout of an hour. They have this tendancy not to presit but to fold within the rim.
The other trick here is first to use a tube for couple of days to make them get the rims shape. Then try again. But you might not succed either. Another trick for schwalbes are to buy wired ones. The sit more easily byt not get to maximum pressure as close as 7 PSI cause they tend to explode (get off the rim).
With wired ones do this -> put a tube and sit the tyre. Then deflate an unsit the one side. Take out the tube and put the tubeless valve. Then presit the wired one usited side using a metal tool otherwise a plastic is going to brake. Sit it as far as it can gets and bit more till you strugle with the tool. Then wit a couple of pumps it will sit just fine. Deflate againt he tyre, it will not unsit. The wire holds it ok, like contis and maxxis. Put the sealant throught the valve core. Inflate.
Otherwise use a tool as Milkit tubeless booster (a bottle which is a Tubeless tire inflator and drinking system in one)
Should I do this when tire is dry not with soapy water all all?
Sorry for the late reply. You want the tire dry so it grips the lip on the rim better.
No problem, i struggled, just bought the Lezyne Pressure Overdrive Tank Tubeless Floor Pump, did not even take a min and the tyre popped into place.
Thank you anyway!
Is this technique applicable for road bikes?
Any success
I’ve never worked on road tires/bikes so I’m not sure if it will work the same. The road tires are much smaller and rims are very thin. You might be able to work one side of the tire into the edge - in my video I pre-seated two halves. You could try just seating one half of the road tire near the valve… let me know if you get it or not. It will help other users coming here for that same question.
Did you know about this simple trick?! I feel like this has been life changing for me changing tires. 😂
seating the bead question: should you hear 1 pop or 2 pops (one for each side) or will there be multiple pops (different locations around the tire, dependent on the tire rim combination)
There’s no rule to this. You might hear multiple pops, sometimes just one. There’s been times when I inflated too slow and it never really “popped” but it was still seated. Hearing the pop is more confirmation that it seated well.
@@MTBTrailRider another question: I did a dry run. The bead is seated but I am noticing a bubbles with soapy water at the nipples. Is this normal before adding the sealant? I applied to 2x rounds to tubless tape and made sure no bubbles, made hole smaller than valve, my inner rim width is 19 and I am using 21 because the center channel is very deep.
@@SojuForAll wow.. sorry for the really late reply!! I didn’t get notified of your comment. It sounds like it’s a rim tape issue. Rub the rim down with rubbing alcohol and do your best to pull the tape tight and make sure there are no wrinkles. Press firmly... there seems to still be air leaking somewhere.
"There was no effort to this."
Continues to breathe heavily...
Lol
great tip thank you!!
👍🏼
Can I fit TR tyres on 20mm internal width rim?
TR as in Tubeless Ready? Yes. You just need to make sure your tires are not too wide. You probably don’t want to go more than 2.3” tires on your rims if they have internal width of 20mm. You could get away with 2.4 tires but for optimal performance, you might want to stay at 2.1-2.3
@@MTBTrailRider thanks ☺
Tried this trick yesterday, but it didn't work at all; the tire kept falling back into the center of the rim. I was attempting to fit a lightweight 2.25 tire, not a robust (heavy) 2.6 like you did.
Hmm.. I’ve been able to get the bead to sit on other tires too. The initial starting of this trick can sometimes pull off the bead but you want to really push down on the tire pressing the bead into the trim of the rim. Press firmly and hold that grip a little longer maybe before moving down the rim more??? Hard to say without looking at it.
I’m making another video on converting a home tool into a compressor ($15 ) which can be used to help inflate tubeless tires.
th-cam.com/video/ZS7nhr1KQHs/w-d-xo.html
IM just gonna bring it down to the shop
Hope you were able to get it set up ok. Don’t be afraid to try and do the work yourself too. It’s always good to learn how to do these things as they come up and if something doesn’t work and can’t figure it out… take to the bike shop and have them fix it. But ask them if they are willing to share what you did wrong so you can know for next time. 👍🏼
Cheers mate , I really wanted to try it myself , but I live in a small apartment with 2 kids so, I think it might just be a bit much trouble for myself 🤣🤣🤣
I’m doing this next week wish me luck lol
Good luck! Let me know how it goes. 🤘🏼
yep..good one.!
👍🏼
Can’t get the tyre half seated
Simpliest but the most annoying way, best way for really for me is to run hot soapy water with a brush around the bead then starts pumping
This must be the most rim specific thing in the world, I can't get a Maxxis tyre anywhere even close to staying in the beat of mine. It isn't worth the fucking about just buy a tubeless pump instead
Having the exact issue right now with a Maxxis Ardent. Close to lashing the fucking thing over the fence.
try this on a road wheel ...
Haha I’ve never worked on road wheels... I imagine that to be another level of evil 😆
@@MTBTrailRider yea it alful I need to get abot 160psi before thay seat on the rim
Impossible
I really dont get it...
What are you struggling with?
It doesn't work on a lot of tires. On wired tires especially so.
Usually wired tires are not tubeless ready
Looked like a lot of effort getting the beads in...
No, the bead sits really easy, but the more tire you can get seated the easier the pumping will be. You don’t have to go completely half way around the rim on each side. Just 1/3 of the tire on each side would likely be fine and would prevent the struggle pushing the tire lever across the rim at the end.
No need to remove the valve core if you aren't adding sealant through the valve stem and you are only using a regular floor pump to add air. Nice video, though. I'll have to give it a try.
Removing the valve core helps open the airway to get the air into the tire faster if you are not using a high volume floor pump. But you’re correct; you don’t have to remove the valve core.
Akshually...
I guess I'm just an idiot. This makes no sense to me. How does your tire stay on the bead????
The tire and rim both have a small lip and you’re able to pre seat the tire into the lip of the rim as shown in the video.
Yeah this one doesn’t work either. Not sure how you’re keeping the “preseat” seated but this is a cruel joke putting this out as a method that works.
Sorry this didn’t work for you.. I’ve used this on all my tubeless tire set ups. The initial start i can see being difficult, but as you watch in the video you need to use your thumb/palm to hold the initial bead in as you move down the tire. Once you get a few inches around the rim it should hold on its own. 🤷🏼♂️
Please delete the first minute and get to the point. Correction: delete the first 2 minutes. Edit: just delete the entire video - your tip is not worth passing on (do not put sealant into the tyre until after seating the tyre),
There are chapters listed on the video for you to skip to the content you want to see. The first 1 minute literally says intro. Then the next chapter is wheel and tire prep, etc And there’s absolutely nothing wrong with putting sealant before you inflate your tire. And with this trick, your tire is already mostly seated, so really... we did put sealant into the tire AFTER it was seated. ;) Anyways... thanks for watching! Haha
My Stans sealent say do NOT use a valve? Gunks it up!. So this is the only way, isn't it?